Wow . Now I feel a little better about the junk I write .

I don’t think Maher or Tingles care that it wasn’t true. This is the game the liberal media plays all the time. They know you can’t put a genie back into the bottle and they count on the fact that once their lies are out there, they somehow become the truth. That’s how they roll!

Speaking clearly the first time would minimize issues of miscommunication and misinterpretation.

Maher lying about Palin? Nah!

In his defense, Maher’s hookers say he always pays up front.

Tommy, how about a thread on Obama not knowing the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan in his You Tube question and answer? Do we only report the gaffes of Palin and Bachmann around here?

writer says:
In his defense, Maher’s hookers say he always pays up front.

I think that’s at thier insistance.

their, before the Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar cites me!

Guess he got tired of being chased down the street.

The only topic this woman is capable of discussing is how to get pregnant before marriage. Both she and her daughter Bristol are accomplished that feat.

Wow Tommy, you really stepped in it! You’re just lucky there’s a “Sarah Palin’s Alaska” marathon on TLC today, or Matty Schneider would be beating you about the head with his empty lotion bottles right now! “Nonsensical”!!!!! I think you meant “witty” and “inspirational”…. didn’t you?

Seriously, has Schneider already been canned? Haven’t seen him in a few days? Interviewing at WND perhaps???

Ambrose, I’m guess you’ve accomplished no where near as much as she has in her relatively young age. Now run along and take your PDS meds, because you’re becoming rabid.

The Left make fun of Palin because they “fear her”. Wrong. The left make fun of her because of the dopey crap that comes out of her mouth.

Most customers worry if the gals might be cops. Maher worries where they stand on climate change.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Ambrose, I’m guess you’ve accomplished no where near as much as she has in her relatively young age. Now run along and take your PDS meds, because you’re becoming rabid.

Bristol or Sarah?

Writer, I hear he pays extra to have them dress up like Palin.

Blurgh, I’m guessing it wouldn’t matter which Palin I was referring to.

When the cops spot Maher soliciting, he has the girl hide in his nose till they’re gone.

Hey Tommy – Just because you don’t like what Palin has to say, doesn’t make it nonsensical.

Why would you yell at her calling for a Spudnut moment? She had been to that particular bakeshop/restaurant and could attest to that place of business.

Obama’s speech was full of tons of WTF moments. Like, what the heck was he talking about? So many platitudes, not any specifics. So many slogans, too much talk of green jobs (that have been proven in CA to not cause job growth) and no talk about entitlement reform. Can you please tell me what Obama actually wants as a leader? Because I’m failing to see specifics that he stands for.

i am not a big palin fan, but why does the left have to make shit up, attack her for what she said, dont just lie

blurgh. said:
Bristol or Sarah?

Both.

Trickletown said:
The Left make fun of Palin because they “fear her”. Wrong. The left make fun of her because of the dopey crap that comes out of her mouth.

“dopey crap” ? the ussr did beat the U.S. into space . big mouth maher has been smoking dope so long he no longer can sense the difference between reality and space . now he got fired from every job he ever had except HoBO and it’s about to go under .

Am not surprised.

writer said:
When the cops spot Maher soliciting, he has the girl hide in his nose till they’re gone.

i am amazed they didn’t bust willie at the same party they busted charlie at the other day . soon willie will be in betty ford with his big nostril buddy .

Maher and Jerry Springer have a great pick-up line. “Will you girls take a check?”

cjd ohio 1 said:
i am not a big palin fan, but why does the left have to make shit up, attack her for what she said, dont just lie

i don’t care that the lefties attack sarah as she put herself in the limelight . it’s the lies and out right false insults that i don’t like .

Maher is a vulgar, barf-inducing creep whose face resembles a foreskin. Put him in the pay-me-no-mind cage with Tweetybird.

Tommy, you are full of it. Sarah said:

“and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won”

She is saying Russia won that “race to space.”

There was only “one” space race that included multiple events.

Russia didn’t win the space race–no matter how much you try to spin for her, America knows she is stupid.

Tommy Christopher said:
When Palin says “their victory in that race to space,” she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race” that it precipitated. It

I see how one can argue semantically that Palin never said Space Race proper, but there’s no way of “clearly” knowing what Palin was referring to. In fact, by suggeting that “[o]nly Palin knows, for sure, what she was suggesting,” you’re giving her the benefit of the doubt, which is fair. Arguments lodged against what she said in this case are only as unfair as they are unclear.

writer said:
In his defense, Maher’s hookers say he always pays up front.

arianna know about this ? she does him willingly and openly . almost brags about their past .

possibly said:
Tommy, you are full of it. Sarah said: “and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won” She is saying Russia won that “race to space.” There was only “one” space race that included multiple events. Russia didn’t win the space race–no matter how much you try to spin for her, America knows she is stupid.

sarah palin did not even claim that ussr won the “space race” she said they won the race to space AND this put the government so far in debt that it eventually collapsed . i watched the interview

Tommy said:
What she didn’t do was claim that the Soviets “won the space race.” Here’s the transcript of the exchange, with the key phrase bolded:

Palin said:
and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt

Is there something here I am missing? Right after she says…”yes, they won”

Huffington and Maher? They need one of those cutesy combined names. How about ‘Muffington”? Or “Banana”?

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Blurgh, I’m guessing it wouldn’t matter which Palin I was referring to.

You said “her,” singularly. Again, speaking clearly does wonders for making a case or argument, although it also is really great when you want to be ambiguous, especially if you can’t properly support a case or argument.

Sarah Palin has accomplished a lot, sure. But Bristol has accomplished as much as any other young single mother has; everything else is a result of her mother’s work. Even Marie Osmond, Kristi Yamaguchi and Jerry Rice had more than the last name of a candidate for vice president.

T.C.?

You should be sure to bring these earth shaking issues up to “heartthrob” Jay Carney.
He’s dreamy.

Ok, I see a play on words.

blurgh. said:
You said “her,” singularly. Again, speaking clearly does wonders for making a case or argument, although it also is really great when you want to be ambiguous, especially if you can’t properly support a case or argument.

Sarah Palin has accomplished a lot, sure. But Bristol has accomplished as much as any other young single mother has; everything else is a result of her mother’s work. Even Marie Osmond, Kristi Yamaguchi and Jerry Rice had more than the last name of a candidate for vice president.

Also, Tom Delay.

blurgh says:

You said “her,” singularly. Again, speaking clearly does wonders for making a case or argument, although it also is really great when you want to be ambiguous, especially if you can’t properly support a case or argument.

Are you being for real? I was just making a snappy comeback to an ignorant liberal, nothing else. But I’m quite certain either Palin has accomplished more than the liberal attacking them.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
I don’t think Maher or Tingles care that it wasn’t true. This is the game the liberal media plays all the time. They know you can’t put a genie back into the bottle and they count on the fact that once their lies are out there, they somehow become the truth. That’s how they roll!

If they do, it’s no different from what FOX news does.

blurgh. said:
I see how one can argue semantically that Palin never said Space Race proper, but there’s no way of “clearly” knowing what Palin was referring to. In fact, by suggeting that “[o]nly Palin knows, for sure, what she was suggesting,” you’re giving her the benefit of the doubt, which is fair. Arguments lodged against what she said in this case are only as unfair as they are unclear.

Finally, I agree with a post by you. :)

Driving down the left side of the road says:

If they do, it’s no different from what FOX news does.

Yawn. Liberal FDS is getting so boring.

IAMAREALMAN said:
sarah palin did not even claim that ussr won the “space race” she said they won the race to space AND this put the government so far in debt that it eventually collapsed . i watched the interview

“That” race to space. Which race to space? The one that put a man in space? Or the one that put a man on the moon. In either case, the Soviet Union collapsed 22 years after the moon landing, or 30 after the USSR sent a man to space.

Or you can argue that eventually is an undefinable amount of time that clearly means 30 years after the Soviet Union won that race to space.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
Yawn. Liberal FDS is getting so boring.

No more than you. Fact is Michelle both sides do it. You can’t just make it a blanket statement that it’s the liberal media.

blurgh. said:
“That” race to space. Which race to space? The one that put a man in space? Or the one that put a man on the moon. In either case, the Soviet Union collapsed 22 years after the moon landing, or 30 after the USSR sent a man to space.

Or you can argue that eventually is an undefinable amount of time that clearly means 30 years after the Soviet Union won that race to space.

I think her assumption is that the US doesn’t need to invest in green technology when it’s predicated on faulty data. I acknowledge that there are ways to be “more green”…however, I also like bright lights and you don’t get those with the more green light bulbs. Also, everyone can’t afford higher bills or higher items in general. So while people are improving their personal growth, we need all sources of natural resources (especially oil, done responsibly). That was my general assumption. That Sputnik moments would come out of Spudnut moments – just at a diff. scale or at least from the private sector.

Why do you think CA is in so much stress? I lived there. The taxes are high, the people want green technology even though it’s costly, illegal immigration and unions. Until these issues are addressed by anyone in any particular political party, you’re not gonna have much personal wealth growth.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
blurgh says:

You said “her,” singularly. Again, speaking clearly does wonders for making a case or argument, although it also is really great when you want to be ambiguous, especially if you can’t properly support a case or argument.

Are you being for real? I was just making a snappy comeback to an ignorant liberal, nothing else. But I’m quite certain either Palin has accomplished more than the liberal attacking them.

Well, I said that first part to relate to both you and Palin, since you’re both fond of using unclear statements that can be later modified to better respond to opposing viewpoints. It relates to my earlier comment about Palin’s ambiguity.

Oh, right. “The liberal.” Now, do you mean Ambrose, or should I keep it open for you to define me, Obama, the media, et al., as “the liberal.”

“I’ve heard the claim that Palin said the Soviets “won the Space Race” all week, on Hardball and elsewhere, but most recently, during Bill Maher’s Real Time monologue:”

When you…
spread the lie…
spread the lie…
spread the lie…

then pretty soon, everbody believes it.

The left is not longer happy just trashing Sarah, they are coming out of the shoot with things she never said.

Better to lie eloquently than awkwardly tell the truth. Another pile-on piece. Palin defines the adage, “if it doesn’t kill you, it makes you stronger.”

I really detest these lies that come from people like Maher and Matthews and Hannity and Limbaugh and all these goofballs. There are enough REAL and TRUTHFUL things to talk about regarding philosophical party differences, and in Palin’s case plenty of actual stupid things she’s said, that there’s no reason to make up stuff. It really detracts from having an adult conversation when these juveniles are wasting their time talking about crap like this.

I used to think Maher was pretty smart, but lately I’ve seen that he’s just another ratings-starved capitalist who wants to make more money. He reminds me of the blind squirrel that every now and then stumbles across an acorn; that is, he says a bunch of crap based on lies of far-left ideology and only rarely says something that’s thoughful or worthwhile. I’ve lost interest in the last year in watching his show, and only watch Real Time if there’s an interesting guest on that’s going to argue with him.

As far as Sarah Palin goes, I spent too long making up excuses in my mind for her lack of general and political knowledge about things. She just doesn’t know very much at all. All she talks about is “common-sense solutions” and “freedom and liberty” and “take our country back.” Who stole our country? I think it’s still here.

Anyway, I’m still waiting for adults to appear on the political landscape.

Is it only strange to me that the author of this article focused on the one part of SP’s interview that could only be construed to be factual if you defined “space race” as the Sputnik event rather than one point on the continuum of multiple events that make up the Space Race. Are not the other erroneous claims she made in her, as usual, strange syntax, worth more comment! To me, if you follow the author’s logic that she thinks that Sputnik equals Space Race highlights her ignorance more.

WCinWI said:
I think her assumption is that the US doesn’t need to invest in green technology when it’s predicated on faulty data. I acknowledge that there are ways to be “more green”…however, I also like bright lights and you don’t get those with the more green light bulbs. Also, everyone can’t afford higher bills or higher items in general. So while people are improving their personal growth, we need all sources of natural resources (especially oil, done responsibly). That was my general assumption. That Sputnik moments would come out of Spudnut moments – just at a diff. scale or at least from the private sector.

Why do you think CA is in so much stress? I lived there. The taxes are high, the people want green technology even though it’s costly, illegal immigration and unions. Until these issues are addressed by anyone in any particular political party, you’re not gonna have much personal wealth growth.

You’re using Obama’s Sputnik metaphor in reference to green technology but limiting it to green technolology, maybe just for this example. In which case, no one is telling you nor have they passed any laws saying you cannot have nor enjoy your bright lights. In fact, maybe investing in green tech would let the private sector explore ways to offer you bright lights at less personal and environmental expense. The problem is that the private sector doesn’t invest in alternative energy at nearly the same rate as they do in methods that are guaranteed to ensure profits; it’s about the bottom line. Thus, offering the private sector incentive to explore green tech make sense, because the government doesn’t have the capacity nor the capability of creating the technology and because corporations are indebted first and foremost to its investors and not the public at large.

But no, Americans shouldn’t aspire to Spudnut moments more than to Sputnik moments, nor do Sputnik moments arrive from Spudnut moments. We didn’t land on the moon because of small businesses or small government.

Palin’s whole Spudnut theme is based on the will of American workers and is meant to defend the private sector by using America’s will to work and individual success as a metaphor for American exceptionalism, tying exceptionalism to economic power. But economic power didn’t take us to the moon. If anything, it was the rocket’s jet fuel. What actually got us to the moon was American ingenuity, and that’s what gave us the ability and strength to lead.

This article is laughable. Really. I laughed when I read it.

Palin said:
“And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also incurred so much debt at the time that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union.”

She obviously meant the entire almost 20 year Space Race because she referred to the ‘race to space’ in the context of “the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union”. She stated it clearly and in one sentence.

The writer opined:
“she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race”

For the writer to imply that she actually meant that the launch of one satellite (Sputnik) into orbit is the reason the USSR inevitably collapsed would be even more absurd and idiotic.

You can’t defend ignorance with stupidity.

It is really hard to be as off as poor Tommy when talking about Palin but that lib gene is getting to him.

Here is my latest video with Dick Morris and Dennis Hastert. Tommy was nowhere around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgrpySJlvf8

Mahr is the biggest Idiot on TV. He is clueless and just spouts useles info that isnt true, and his audience is a bunch of sheep that applauds so he thinks he is correct

rover37 said:
Mahr is the biggest Idiot on TV. He is clueless and just spouts useles info that isnt true, and his audience is a bunch of sheep that applauds so he thinks he is correct

Sub Sarah Palins name for Mahr, and your post is bang on.

blurgh. said:
You’re using Obama’s Sputnik metaphor in reference to green technology but limiting it to green technolology, maybe just for this example. In which case, no one is telling you nor have they passed any laws saying you cannot have nor enjoy your bright lights. In fact, maybe investing in green tech would let the private sector explore ways to offer you bright lights at less personal and environmental expense. The problem is that the private sector doesn’t invest in alternative energy at nearly the same rate as they do in methods that are guaranteed to ensure profits; it’s about the bottom line. Thus, offering the private sector incentive to explore green tech make sense, because the government doesn’t have the capacity nor the capability of creating the technology and because corporations are indebted first and foremost to its investors and not the public at large.

But no, Americans shouldn’t aspire to Spudnut moments more than to Sputnik moments, nor do Sputnik moments arrive from Spudnut moments. We didn’t land on the moon because of small businesses or small government.

Palin’s whole Spudnut theme is based on the will of American workers and is meant to defend the private sector by using America’s will to work and individual success as a metaphor for American exceptionalism, tying exceptionalism to economic power. But economic power didn’t take us to the moon. If anything, it was the rocket’s jet fuel. What actually got us to the moon was American ingenuity, and that’s what gave us the ability and strength to lead.

Government should act as a catalyst to create the conditions in which private businesses can create their own green jobs. It shouldn’t be the government’s will to have taxpayer’s dollars expended on vast amount of programs on the creation/research side of stuff, except for NASA. The government should not have its hand in private business either.

Also, if you didn’t know, incandescent light bulbs are being phased out. That’s what I’m talking about. I like bright lights. Simple as that. These newer, more efficient lights aren’t bright.

As a young person (below the age of 30), I don’t claim to know what Sputnik was all about, just as I don’t claim to know about the situation going on in Egypt. These aren’t my areas of expertise. However, as a young person, I find it silly that WTF is getting such a bad wrap when we have a VP that said BFD and there were a lot of WTF moments in Obama’s speech. It was platitudes. Having worked in marketing, I was like wow….can you get any more in that speech? Can you name specifics that Obama called for. I want drilling and I want it now. I want entitlement reform for my generation and I want it now. I want immigration reform and I want it now. Simple as that.

Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
writer says:In his defense, Maher’s hookers say he always pays up front. I think that’s at thier insistance.

Considering Toddy was just in the publics eye dealing with a hooker. I wouldn’t be talking about problems people have with Hookers.Palin is her own worst enemy.

WCinWI said:
Government should act as a catalyst to create the conditions in which private businesses can create their own green jobs. It shouldn’t be the government’s will to have taxpayer’s dollars expended on vast amount of programs on the creation/research side of stuff, except for NASA. The government should not have its hand in private business either.

Also, if you didn’t know, incandescent light bulbs are being phased out. That’s what I’m talking about. I like bright lights. Simple as that. These newer, more efficient lights aren’t bright.

As a young person (below the age of 30), I don’t claim to know what Sputnik was all about, just as I don’t claim to know about the situation going on in Egypt. These aren’t my areas of expertise. However, as a young person, I find it silly that WTF is getting such a bad wrap when we have a VP that said BFD and there were a lot of WTF moments in Obama’s speech. It was platitudes. Having worked in marketing, I was like wow….can you get any more in that speech? Can you name specifics that Obama called for. I want drilling and I want it now. I want entitlement reform for my generation and I want it now. I want immigration reform and I want it now. Simple as that.

I’m under 30 myself and don’t claim much myself, but there are things that make sense and things that don’t. Having worked in oil and energy a handful of years, I understand the relevance of the private sector and how it will undoubtedly be a driving force in innovation. But I have no problem with the government investing in the private sector as a means to ensure that we as its citizens aren’t caught on the wrong side of the private sector’s bottom line.

I don’t know that Palin’s WTF moment is relevant to either this discussion or the larger discussion that we face. Obama’s platitudes are no different from any other politicians. That said, I can name more specific calls in Obama’s SOTU speech than I can in Palin’s Spudnut response. A call for immigration reform that impacts my friends who were brought or were born into this world by undocumented immigrants, a push for more accountability in an education system I grew up in and led me to where I am now and support for developing and improving infrastructures that I depend on a daily basis might be platitudes and would be meaningless to you regardless, but they’re words I and other supporters of his can use to keep him accountable.

You seem to want a lot of things. And what them now. Unfortunately, that’s not how anything works.

blurgh. said:
I’m under 30 myself and don’t claim much myself, but there are things that make sense and things that don’t. Having worked in oil and energy a handful of years, I understand the relevance of the private sector and how it will undoubtedly be a driving force in innovation. But I have no problem with the government investing in the private sector as a means to ensure that we as its citizens aren’t caught on the wrong side of the private sector’s bottom line.

I don’t know that Palin’s WTF moment is relevant to either this discussion or the larger discussion that we face. Obama’s platitudes are no different from any other politicians. That said, I can name more specific calls in Obama’s SOTU speech than I can in Palin’s Spudnut response. A call for immigration reform that impacts my friends who were brought or were born into this world by undocumented immigrants, a push for more accountability in an education system I grew up in and led me to where I am now and support for developing and improving infrastructures that I depend on a daily basis might be platitudes and would be meaningless to you regardless, but they’re words I and other supporters of his can use to keep him accountable.

You seem to want a lot of things. And what them now. Unfortunately, that’s not how anything works.

You’re basing your opinion on Palin on a two segment bit on a talk show. Not quite the same thing as a SOTU address. Just saying.

No one is saying that highways, freeways and roads shouldn’t be fixed. There is no need for high speed rail at this point and no offense, but it’s not less cost effective. That’s why WI turned it down. That’s why Palin initially turned down dollars to her state that the Feds offered. You can’t use bribery as a tactic when ultimately the citizens of the state are going to be held to pay for unfunded mandates. That a simple assessment.

If you would get rid of or at least put on pause in some way the heads of union leadership, there are tons of negotiations that could take place. Rhee seems to be a good person on the charge. Education is the one area where conservatives and liberals agree upon. However, I also don’t believe in my tax dollars going to public education, when I myself went to a private grade school.

I believe in a land based on laws. Therefore, I believe that immigrants should have the right to live here, after they have returned to their country and have come in the proper way. I respect the individuals that have migrated here the proper way. However, you can’t operate an ICE department on a system of “maybe we’ll send you back”…..that’s just not right to the people that have properly migrated here. Is it a more harsh system? Perhaps. However, I don’t believe in “punishing” those that are here with criminal/civil action necessarily, I just want them to go about immigration the legal way.

blurgh. said:
Speaking clearly the first time would minimize issues of miscommunication and misinterpretation.

Huh, I’m noting the fact that 12 people gave this comment a thumbs-down, while only 3 gave it a thumbs-up.

So there you go: apparently 80% of posters at Mediate are AGAINST speaking clearly, LOL!

I tend to agree: what’s the fun in concise, easily-comprehensible communication, when you have Sarah providing a laugh a day? She’s my favorite stand-up comedian, being more entertaining than the monologues of Letterman/Leno/Fallon/Conan. :)

I get it Tommy, Gold I tell ya GOLD!

The best part is bring that Greta/Palin clip back into circulation. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.

I think Maher brought up a point that I haven’t heard other people talking about. Being able to see the moon from her house really does not give Sarah Palin any better incite to what Sputnik was. Geese, what a nut…

Sara is really making women look bad these days. Those good ole boys will be coming out with their guns and making their women get back to the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Or do they still do that?

gordonbloyershow said:
It is really hard to be as off as poor Tommy when talking about Palin but that lib gene is getting to him.

Here is my latest video with Dick Morris and Dennis Hastert. Tommy was nowhere around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgrpySJlvf8

No one gives a shit about your snuff video Blower. Stop spamming it over here. You didn’t tell us whether you people discussed Dick Morris’ toe sucking fetish.

Keith Olbermann on Palin, “That woman is an IDIOT!”

Why waste time report what Bill Maher says or didn’t say. Save the space, old Willie simply is not worthy of any coverage.

Anyone who remembers history knows that the USSR beat the US into space by launching a satellite into orbit in 1957 (where ‘space’ is considered that area outside Earth’s atmosphere, about 120 mi. up). So if you consider launching an unmanned satellite as winning the space “race”, then sure: the USSR “won” (and it’s not like this is an Olympic event, where there’s clearly defined rules, judges, etc. I don’t remember anyone actually declaring an official contest).

HOWEVER, there’s also quantifiers that define milestones in the so-called “race to space” (which as far as I’m concerned is the same as ‘space race’), i.e. first human-made object to: enter space, enter space and return, carry a life form (dog or monkey) only to be destroyed on re-entry, carry a single human, carry a crew, carry a woman, carry to the Moon, go to Mars, etc.

It’s questionable to claim that the costs of Sputnik 1 mission directly led to the downfall of USSR via economic collapse, when the economic burden of the entire USSR Space Program over many decades is more likely a factor (as well as the situation the US faces; their economy collapsed 20 years ahead of ours, and we’re facing a HUGE Federal deficit that is partly due to NASA expenditures over the past 50 years).

I know, facts are not allowed on the internet or sound-bites, but the reality is far more complex than can be stated in a glib “Spudnut” wanna-be meme.

In fact, I’d go so far as to say no one “won” the Space Race: the USSR collapsed first due to self-inflicted economic damages, and we’re now living through a hang-over of unchecked deficit spending. Both sides were losers.

“that’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind” That line alone was worth it. You Commie!

Gasket said:
No one gives a shit about your snuff video Blower. Stop spamming it over here. You didn’t tell us whether you people discussed Dick Morris’ toe sucking fetish.

Everyone here always answer idiots that hide behind a phony name like Gasket and avatar of a atom bomb.

You should follow some old advice. If you can’t sign your name to a comment maybe you shouldn’t make it.

TOMMY: Only Palin knows, for sure, what she was suggesting, but it’s unfair to claim that she said the Soviets “won the Space Race.”

PALIN: “And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won,”

Tommy, your conclusion makes no sense.

Our founders worked tirelessly to raise the flag at Iwo Jima until Nazism was no more and I don’t think you should besmirch their memory with this drivel.
Sorry, Maher is right one this one.

gordonbloyershow said:
Everyone here always answer idiots that hide behind a phony name like Gasket and avatar of a atom bomb.

Yeah, we should use our real name so scumbags like Big Eddie can stalk us.
He took a posters real name and spammed his facebook page and friends all over this site, as well as some of his other social networks.

That’s why only idiots use their real names on the internet. Because you rabid teablogger can’t be trusted to behave in a reasonable manner.

they did win the race for space……they were first to get there. but no they did not win the space race the goal being a man on the moon

some people can not deal with facts

When people have to use Bill Maher comments as the jumping off point for a legitimate discussion, things have really deteriorated. He is a moron who uses the power of the mike to attack and empty headed nitwits get all fired up listening to him. Say what you want about Palin but she has accomplished more in 1 day of her life than Maher or many of the other left wing bozos will do in a lifetime. How is it that a total dunce like Joe Biden lets more idiotic crap stream from his mouth every day and nobody cares. Second in line to be Pres and he is a major dimwit. He proves his ignorance every time he speaks but the “all intellectual” Left never gets after him. Palin destroyed him once in a debate and has accomplished more in a week than Biden will ever do in his life. The Left allows a dangerous numb skull stand behind Barry O and they see nothing to criticize? Sarah, hang in there and if the day ever comes that you feel inferior to Joe Biden, go away and never be seen again.

But why does Sarah Palin being able to see the moon from her house make her think she is some kind of expert on the subject? Seems like a weird thing for her to say.

grafxmail7 says:

The writer opined:
“she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race”

Sarah says, WTF! Shame on you !”Fox” and Hannity already have the job of spin damage control for what she said, didn’t say and didn’t mean to say! ( and never should have said)

gordonbloyershow said:
Everyone here always answer idiots that hide behind a phony name like Gasket and avatar of a atom bomb.

You should follow some old advice. If you can’t sign your name to a comment maybe you shouldn’t make it.

This comes from a draft dodging coward who isn’t using his real name. You can’t make this stuff up.

BFD said:
That’s why only idiots use their real names on the internet. Because you rabid teablogger can’t be trusted to behave in a reasonable manner.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Considering Toddy was just in the publics eye dealing with a hooker. I wouldn’t be talking about problems people have with Hookers.Palin is her own worst enemy.

Steely Steel said:
Sara is really making women look bad these days. Those good ole boys will be coming out with their guns and making their women get back to the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. Or do they still do that?

RRKING here . The 3 biggest morons of the day . But , it’s still early .

The defense of Sarah Palin by the media is on it’s last legs, I can feel it. Way to keep it going for a lil while longer Mediaite.

Color Me Badd said:
The defense of Sarah Palin by the media is on it’s last legs, I can feel it. Way to keep it going for a lil while longer Mediaite.

How long has she been on her way out now? Two and a half years, right? Heh.

The problem with Sarah Palin is that she comes from a place where intelligence and comprehension are still an expectation in those one speaks to. I watched her original interview and it was very clear to anyone who lived threw the space race exactly what she was saying.

What an “All Smarmy” race between Bill Maher and Ray Maddow! The winner? Maher by a nose…..

Bill Maher can be explained by this study from GaryGaddy.com:

Progressive media in national OCD clinical study

BETHESDA, Md. — The National Institute of Mental Health announced today a $7.7 million grant to fund a collaborative study with the University of North Carolina’s School of Medicine and Georgetown University’s Center for the Study of Media and Politics to examine a widespread strain of obsessive-compulsive disorder which is especially prevalent among progressives in the media. Researchers have dubbed the syndrome SPOB, or Sarah Palin on the Brain.

The genesis of the study was a report that estimated that 58% of Palin’s Twitter account readers are left-leaning journalists and progressive political consultants who are trying to figure out why apparently educated people would be so stupid as to spend their days reading a political non-entity’s every frivolous thought. This study hopes to answer that question.

The OCD/SPOB study will be a double-blind study in which both the progressive media and Sarah Palin will be unaware of their status.

………………………

Now, will that piece of dirt, Maher tell her that there are 57 states?

Please do NOT let this man stop talking. He and his brethren are the reason those “tea-Baggers” did so well in 2010. This a good reason to bring back Keith O. Man I miss this mans ignorance. The more the Left utilizes these “representatives” as the Face of Progressivism, the better chance the Right will win in 2012.

You go girls!

Maher is, as always, an ignorant fool.

Most of this audience was too young or not born at the time to truly appreciate how devastating it was to learn that the Russians had launched a satellite into orbit. Yes they did win the first race. Ironically they also won the first man in space race too, because our weapons systems (bombs) were better and smaller, we didn’t need large rockets (ICBMs) to deliver them. The Russians needed larger ICBMs to counter our missiles. When it came to putting man in space, they had the horsepower. We started initially with non-military rockets but ended up using our military rockets to try to catch up; we were always several months behind them.

It was not until we did land on the moon that we did win a race. Even then we were sweating out a concurrent Russian attempt to land an unmanned rocket and return a lunar sample to earth, before Apollo 11 returned. They failed and we won. We didn’t win because we were better or destined. It was a tough competition and we prevailed. We’ve stayed ahead but we have lost our compass in the last decades. Judging from posts on this liberal site, I don’t know if our youth will be up to it.

I am proud to have been a part of the space program . I still can’t watch a manned launch without getting a lump in my throat, praying (and I’m not religious) it goes through staging successfully. There is no grander sight than that.

I don’t know what Palin had in mind when she said the space race caused the Russian collapse. It doesn’t bother me though because her critics are as dumb on the facts too. Not their fault, because it was all before their time. It’s like overhearing an argument between people that don’t know what they were talking about because they were not there.

The Lantern of Truth said:
The Lantern of Truth

Considering you are an Idiot your little protest means nothing.Carry on.

I found it hard to follow what “Spudnuts” Falin was saying, so its no wonder other people are misquoting her. I still think she was dosed on Colombian Marching Powder…..

I’m not really sure why this or anything else Maher says is news worthy.. Anyone that happens to have a different philosophy, or believes in a higher being he considers a moron..

Like everything Sarah Palin attempts to say, her comments came out like seaweed and tennis balls mixed up in a blender.

It’s maybe 60-40 that she didn’t mean that the USSR won the “Space Race” even though they launched an artificial satellite first. However, for her to go on to say that the space race bankrupted them and led to the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union would ordinarily be taken to mean — if being uttered by anyone but Sarah “Dizzy” Palin — to mean that pursuit of the space race (which they “won”) over the next 40 years brought the system to its knees.

With Palin, of course, interpretation is a lot like reading the entrails of a goat: you know you’re looking at a mess, but its implication remains obscure.

In other words, same-o, same-o Palinesque glossolalia.

Someone’s actually trying to make sense of the inane ramblings of Sarah Palin? Face it, it’s not up to the people or her media apologists to GUESS what she really meant. ONCE AGAIN, as with her description of “blood libel” to Hannity, Palin answered like an unprepared high school BSing their way through a test essay answer. She knew a couple disparate facts about the Soviet Union and tried to draw a FALSE parallel between them and it’s up to her historically illiterate fans to fill in the gaps.

Again, SARAH PALIN doesn’t know how to explain anything beyond her handy dandy snappy talking points that she’s proud of . Maybe if she spent less time learning about history in the Glenn Beck University School of Historical Inaccuracy and spent more time developing a working knowledge of history for what it WAS and not how she hoped it to be (so that it can fit her trite talking points) then she won’t get ridiculed EVERY WEEK for being less than knowledgeable.

And just when you thought that the fake conservative goon squad apologists who couldn’t have found someone less equipped to be Presiden than GW Bush.

Stephen Hilton said:
Anyone that happens to have a different philosophy

Sarah Palin is not merely someone who has a different philosophy, she’s someone who lives in a parallel universe with it’s own historic facts. Why are you spending more time defending her than advocating on behalf of Paul Ryan or Marco Rubio? If the fake conservative goon squad wants to be taken seriously, they need to stop betting on the likes of Palin and Bachmann to save their party.

X-3 said:
Maher is, as always, an ignorant fool.

But wasn’t it Palin that said she was an expert about Sputnik because she could see the moon from her house?

Morgan said:
I don’t know what Palin had in mind when she said the space race caused the Russian collapse. It doesn’t bother me though because her critics are as dumb on the facts too. Not their fault, because it was all before their time. It’s like overhearing an argument between people that don’t know what they were talking about because they were not ther

Not only is Palin dumb on the facts, she’s dumb on the consequences on what PRACTICALITY for America scientific know how that the Sputnik moment inspired in America. Almost immediately, Eisenhower was able to create NASA other scientific foundations and refocus America’s science education initiatives to make us a world-class competitor in the fields of science and math instead of one that relied too much on European immigrants who fled the NAZIs to nurture our own space and weapons knowledge. And that strong scientific curriculum came to a crashing halt because reactionaries like Palin began to sieze control of our local school boards and local governments with the end of the Cold War.

After the Reagan and George HW Bush administrations all but ignored the needs of the Religious Right (just like those in the GOP are already showing signs of ignoring the Religious Rights reactionary brethren, the Tea Party) on the national level, in the early 90′s many in the Religious Right sought to turn their socially conservative political aspirations toward school boards (you know, the ones who forced kids to learn evolution and didn’t allow school prayer). And it was from this moment that American schools stopped being scientifically progressive and began cutting back on the very scientific curriculum that helped us win the Cold War and be the most technologically astute nation in the world in the first place.

Unfortunately for Palin, the real influence the Sputnik moment had America’s scientific and technological know how is lost on her and, unfortunately for America, when those reactionaries who share similar sympathies with Palin took over our schools was the moment America’s ability to compete in science, math and engineering feel into sharp decline. In other words, Palin didn’t understand the implications of the SPUTNIK moment because her like are the reason why we need to revisit that moment once again to learn from the failures of not maintaining that spirit of innovation and competition that the original Sputnik moment called for.

X-3 said:
Maher is, as always, an ignorant fool

At least, he knows what the SPUTNIK moment was. It’s still questionable whether Palin does. She’s still learning about the true meaning of Blood Libel. She can only handle one history lesson at a time. The rest of her historical understandings are fueled by the lunatic fantasies of her email buddy Glenn Beck. Obviously his advice and history lessons are failing her.

A Kim Bo,

I first off should point out I did not defend anyone, the same way you question Palins knowledge on facts, I too question Mahers. Everytime there is a piece done on Maher it is due to fire bomb comments made by him. Example, a little over a week ago he stated that the founding fathers would have hated the tea parties guts… Well what research has he done to suggest that the founding fathers wanted something other than small government that does not interfere in peoples lives, or force them to buy something IE healthcare. He didnt do that, no he just name calls, refers to conservatives or libertarian as tea baggers (High schoolish), he doesnt really get to the meat and potatos of the issue.

No Maher simply calls you stupid if you do not agree with him. He thinks because you believe differently you are uneducated, or illinformed, but for some reason a 2 bit comedian has all the answers. Oh you dont like universal health care, well you dont know what’s good for you… I have to drag you to it because most americans dont know what is good for them.. Believe it or not, we are not all “uneducated hicks” that sleep with our sisters and hate anyone that looks different than we do the running accusations of people like Maher.

It boils down to, difference in opinion on how the country should be ran. One group of people think that it is better to have a smaller less intrusive government and for people to help themselves with basic safety net, and the others want more government involvement in peoples lives because they think it benifits everyone. The founding fathers in my opinion broke away from England because they wanted to do away with the Kings, Lords, and over taxing.. But then again, what do I know.

Bill Maher would OWN SP in a debate on any topic. I know some folks don ‘t like Maher. That happens a lot when less intelligent or ill informed folks are called out by a Maher type. As for the space race thing, that’s iffy. I think her statement could be taken both ways. The main point was that she said the space race bankrupted them while it was really the military arms race and military spending. Afghanistan really hurt the USSR. Are we listening USA politicians? If Palin and her ilk had their way we’d be back in the 1850s. No social security. No medicare. No child labor laws. No 40 hour workweek. No weekends off. No food safety controls. No retirement except for the rich. No health care to speak of. (Pay the Dr. with chickens.) A life expectance of 50 years. No decent roads. The list goes on and on. All about the rich and what they can gain. The rest of the population just their cattle. Oops. Sounds like what’s happening now. Look out middle class…you’re about to become the lower class if you already aren’t there. And the people voted for the Tea Party ! I guess we get what we deserve.

Stephen Hilton said:
Well what research has he done to suggest that the founding fathers wanted something other than small government that does not interfere in peoples lives, or force them to buy something IE healthcare

He has done more research on the words and the DEEDS and, most importantly, the FUNDING of the Tea Party than the Tea Party members have actually done on the Constitution and the Founding Fathers themselves (unless you include an hour of a revisionist history lesson a night courtesy of Glenn Beck to be a honest replacement for years of not paying attention in history and social studies class let alone to THIRTY YEARS of ignoring the deficits created by Republicans).

Stephen Hilton said:
He didnt do that, no he just name calls, refers to conservatives or libertarian as tea baggers (High schoolish)

Actually he TEABAGGERS called themselves that, but these days I’d prefer to call them SPUDNUTS instead.

Stephen Hilton said:
he doesnt really get to the meat and potatos of the issue.

But you’re right, if Maher had gotten into the meat and potatoes of the issue, he would have informed the Tea Party that they share not only the same reactionary traits of their Religious Right brethren but also the precise same corporate control of the very GOP that they claim to have an issue with in the first place. But he chose to concentrate on how a bunch of scientifically illiterate reactionaries who hate elites can claim to saddle up with a bunch of leaders who embraced science and were, by definition of the few Americans who even had citizen rights at the time of America’s inception, considered the ELITE.

Stephen Hilton said:
No Maher simply calls you stupid if you do not agree with him.

No, he and I call you stupid if you lack the basic awareness of the corporate entities who fund the Tea Party and who are fueling their agenda. Sorry, but even Ron Paul now think the OFFICIAL Tea Party are clowns at best and neocon puppets at worst.

Stephen Hilton said:
It boils down to, difference in opinion on how the country should be ran

It boils down to the wayward support that the Tea Party have bestowed upon some of their more dubious leaders like Palin and Bachmann. Putting aside the fact that both Palin and Bachmann are some of the biggest welfare queens this nation have ever seen and have never spent any significant amount of time in the PRIVATE SECTOR on any successful level to be in a position to talk to us with any bit of personal know how about the splendors of the “FREE ENTERPRISE” system, there’s also the fact that they are simply uneducated talking point automatons.

And then there’s the fact that when a Tea Party member of the Congress are asked about what cuts they are prepared to make, they fail to pinpoint any significant cuts that would come anywhere balancing the budget let alone reducing the deficits. They simply drag out the standard neocon talking point reactionary baiting cuts used to pander to the equally inane Religious Right.

Come on Tea Partiers, you’ve had two years to come up with decent budget cut proposals and you’ve had a whole year (not including the nearly 17 years since Clinton first proposed reform) to come up with reforms for health care that are more to your liking. Yet, it only took Dick Cheney ONE DAY (from what happened on September 11, 2001 until he proposed the idea on September 12, 2001) to decide to attack IRAQ. In other words, the GOP figured out a way to waste $1 trillion in one day, why can’t they come up with a way to save even half a trillion dollars or more in two years?

Face it, Tea Parties, you want to present yourself as a legitimate party and your leaders as a force to be reckoned with, that means accepting criticism. If you can’t hack the big leagues, then I suggest you step to the side and return to irrelevancy. That is before the corporate-sponsored GOP that spent as much pandering to your ilk as they spent pandering to the Religious Right for votes (only to ignore their concerns once elected) makes you irrelevant by forgetting about you faster than you can say “spudnuts”.

Again, if you ACTUALLY KNEW history as much as you claim you do, you would already be aware of the recent GOP history of pandering to reactionary groups let alone be aware of how much the Founding Fathers would despise the Tea Party.

You know you sound to much like maher to actually take up anymore of my time.. I already knew I would pretty much see all you wrote and attempt to act more knowlegeable then you really are.. Its my ni ni time, and frankly I only responded back to your response out of sheer boredom while at work.. Neo con and corporate shill… Lmao.. I can see a college kid screaming that, blind to the world, yet sure he knows it all like a 15 year old.. ZzzzZzz…

“When Palin says “their victory in that race to space,” she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race” that it precipitated”

Are you kidding? There’s nothing ‘clear’ about any of this. You REALLY think Sarah Palin CLEARLY knows the difference between launching an artificial satellite into orbit, and the ‘bigger’ picture? I think you wrote this just to be different. This woman CLEARLY stated Sputnik brought down the USSR, in a 34 year period, yet you think she CLEARLY knows the difference between lift off, and landing on the moon. WTF???

Kathryn Scaglione said:
“When Palin says “their victory in that race to space,” she’s clearly referring to the specific milestone of launching an artificial satellite into Earth orbit, as opposed to the larger “Space Race” that it precipitated” Are you kidding? There’s nothing ‘clear’ about any of this. You REALLY think Sarah Palin CLEARLY knows the difference between launching an artificial satellite into orbit, and the ‘bigger’ picture? I think you wrote this just to be different. This woman CLEARLY stated Sputnik brought down the USSR, in a 34 year period, yet you think she CLEARLY knows the difference between lift off, and landing on the moon. WTF???

Wow, some people are sure willing to display their lack of education and resultant naiveté. The launch of Sputnik kicked off the Russians attempt to out perform us in space and military strength. They spent themselves into ruin and Reagan’s starwars finished them off.

Perhaps if Kathryn would read a book instead of lefty blogs, she would know than Palin was spot on with her reference to Sputnik and the fall of the Soviet Union. Or, continue to drag your knuckles with lefty lies. You have a little spit on your chin.

Christopher says “In any case, Palin didn’t bother to explain how Spudnuts are supposed to save America. Are we to build a mess of doughnut shops now, and see how many are left in 60 years?”

The only word missing from this embarrassing display of bias or stupidity is the word duh. As in, “Duh, Palin didn’t bother to explain how Spudnuts are supposed to save America. Are we to build a mess of doughnut shops now, and see how many are left in 60 years?

I still say anyone with this much hate for a strong women must have an equipment shortage.

Maher’s nose seems to be evolving. It started out human sized, and now look at it.

writer said:
Maher’s nose seems to be evolving. It started out human sized, and now look at it.

Kinda like your ears lol.

The more people such as Maher deride Palin the more I tend to look more closely at her in a favorable light. If their hatred is so strong and irrational she must be perceived as a very strong danger to their belief systems. I no longer check on putput from Maher because he no longer makes much sense.

I think someone, maybe Stewart or Ohlbermann)sp?) told him he was very intelligent and that is all he can think about now..

dahni said:
The more people such as Maher deride Palin the more I tend to look more closely at her in a favorable light. If their hatred is so strong and irrational she must be perceived as a very strong danger to their belief systems. I no longer check on putput from Maher because he no longer makes much sense. I think someone, maybe Stewart or Ohlbermann)sp?) told him he was very intelligent and that is all he can think about now..

The attacks meant to send Palin packing failed. I have never seen anyone take quite so much and still stand up to it. She is an inspiration to us all because of it yet some of the liberals don’t realize that the unfounded attacks back fired. They help her more than they hurt her. People like me have been willing to move on thinking she is finished until the next unfair attack. Then I get interested again. I am not so interested in her intelligence or experience as much as I am her ability to stand up to it and fight for what she believes in. I may not agree with her all the time but having someone with that kind of guts appeals to me. Face it she is not a good ole boy who will go alone to get along. She will insist that something be done where others will be told to back off she won’t. I’m not saying that I will vote for her, I am hoping someone comes up who I can get interested in more. But for now I am tired of the go along to get along crowd from both parties.

So, Maher and other liberal dingbats are claiming Palin said the Soviets “won the space race” because she said, “..their victory in that race to space, yes, they won,…”

Obama, in his SOTU address said, “Half a century ago, when the Soviets BEAT US INTO SPACE with the launch of a satellite called Sputnik,…”

Hmmm, “Soviets beat us into space,” and “their victory in that race to space” sounds like the same thing.

According the Maher and all the other liberal nitwits, Obama claimed the Soviets “WON THE SPACE RACE.”

Ha ha ha!

Stephen Hilton said:

You know you sound to much like maher to actually take up anymore of my time..

Sorry but Maher isn’t the only one critical of the vast difference between the Tea Party’s words, their deeds and their dubious funding. If you want to be an adult, you’re going to have to accept that criticism. And if you’re going to be considered anything but a useful idiot for the purposes of the GOP, you’re going to have to do a better job of defending the Tea Party.

Clearly you know even less about how the Tea Party has been co-opted by the corporate-sponsored GOP then you know about the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

I can see a corporate-sponsored stooge from a mile off and sadly you are one. You’re just too dumb to realize it.

Walworth said:
So, Maher and other liberal dingbats are claiming Palin said the Soviets “won the space race” because she said, “..their victory in that race to space, yes, they won,…”

Unfortunately for Palin there was a SECOND PART to her sentence where she drew the WRONG conclusion about Sputnik and, fortunately for OBAMA there was a second part to his analogy where he discusses America’s recommitted to investment in technology and development that allowed us to WIN that space race.

It’s only a HA HA HA for anyone who doesn’t speak and think in complete sentences, like anyone who defends Sarah Palin. Sorry, but the laughs on you and all your other historically illiterate pals.

Ajolily said:
The attacks meant to send Palin packing failed.

No, she’s valuable to keep around to show us how gullible the reactionary wing of the GOP (who the GOP have been playing like useful idiots for five decades now) are.

Ajolily said:
She is an inspiration to us all because

Because she allows you to believe that any schmo with a grab bag of talking points and limited knowledge has a place pandering to the gullible in the reactionary wing of the GOP.

dahni said:
The more people such as Maher deride Palin the more I tend to look more closely at her in a favorable light

Instead of judging her from her actual words and policies like any sensible citizen would do. Thanks for confirming that what we have here is not someone who uses the barometer of COMMON SENSE to judge the skills of their leaders but that good ol’ fashioned reactionary gullibility that the corporate-sponsored GOP love to pander to so much. You must be proud.

Gee, using your logic so much, people pick on Snooki and often put her on the defensive so that must mean that she’s qualified to be the Secretary of Defense.

Phocus2 said:
Wow, some people are sure willing to display their lack of education and resultant naiveté. The launch of Sputnik kicked off the Russians attempt to out perform us in space and military strength. They spent themselves into ruin and Reagan’s starwars finished them off. Perhaps if Kathryn would read a book instead of lefty blogs, she would know than Palin was spot on with her reference to Sputnik and the fall of the Soviet Union. Or, continue to drag your knuckles with lefty lies. You have a little spit on your chin.

This is identical to Reagan’s handlers jumping to cover one of Ronnie’s “little accidents” by assuring everybody that “What the president meant to say was . . . (fill in the exculpatory blank).” Perhaps Palin did mean that Sputnik was the symbolic beginning of a technological and economic contest that ended in bankruptcy for the USSR and near-bankruptcy for the US. (Myself, I’d say it began with the Soviets’ first nuclear detonation in 1949, but I only say that because I read books.)

Perhaps that’s what she meant. But who can tell? Whenever Palin opens her mouth, her brain falls out of her nose and it’s left to the rest of us (those who care, anyway) to read the spatters and try to make sense of it.

While this can be entertaining, when you remember that some people consider this vacuous fraud a viable candidate for national office, all the fun drains out and is quickly replaced with dread.

As a patriot, I want Palin to try for higher office (since she’ll get her tuchis handed to her), but as a patriot I consider it risky even having her in the race. Elections *have* been stolen before, after all.

Ajolily said:
The attacks meant to send Palin packing failed. I have never seen anyone take quite so much and still stand up to it. She is an inspiration to us all because of it yet some of the liberals don’t realize that the unfounded attacks back fired. They help her more than they hurt her. People like me have been willing to move on thinking she is finished until the next unfair attack. Then I get interested again. I am not so interested in her intelligence or experience as much as I am her ability to stand up to it and fight for what she believes in. I may not agree with her all the time but having someone with that kind of guts appeals to me. Face it she is not a good ole boy who will go alone to get along. She will insist that something be done where others will be told to back off she won’t. I’m not saying that I will vote for her, I am hoping someone comes up who I can get interested in more. But for now I am tired of the go along to get along crowd from both parties.

There’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that Palin has sewed up the crank vote.

Mr Christopher, If you spent as much energy examining the pattering of your left wing cronies, you would have much more fertile ground.

Your simplistic jealous mewings ala Sarah Palin reveal more about your inane thinking than Sarah Palins.

Anyone who spends time defending such an obvious person who is lacking in intellect should all move to Alaska and let Sarah be your President.

Phocus2 said:
Wow, some people are sure willing to display their lack of education and resultant naiveté. The launch of Sputnik kicked off the Russians attempt to out perform us in space and military strength. They spent themselves into ruin and Reagan’s starwars finished them off.

Perhaps if Kathryn would read a book instead of lefty blogs, she would know than Palin was spot on with her reference to Sputnik and the fall of the Soviet Union.

Spot on? Sorry, but Sputnik 1 in-and-of-itself didn’t “cause the fall of the USSR” (which occurred decades later). The R&D/operational costs of building and launching Sputnik 1 obviously occurred prior to it’s launch in 1957, and was only a fraction of the USSR total expenditures, even at that time. So how could “Sputnik” be attributed as the sole factor leading to it’s economic downfall?

Answer: it couldn’t. It didn’t.

Perhaps Palin MEANT to refer to the subsequent escalation of expenditures for space programs that followed in both countries, leading to an game of one-upsmanship that included SDI AKA “Star Wars”. However, even that’s a questionable assertion as to being a SOLE cause of the collapse of USSR.

But simply ascribing it to the 1st leg of the USSR space program (and NOT military expenditures? No mention of the oil glut?) is foolishness.

Here’s a read that even a pseudo-conservative could understand and appreciate:

http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/vernon/070423

Palin said, “And he needs to remember that what happened back then with the former communist USSR and their victory in that race to space, yes, they won, but they also [b]incurred so much debt at the time[/b] that it resulted in the inevitable collapse of the Soviet Union.”

Her claim that the USSR won the race into space (by entering 1st in 1957) is true, but you cannot deny she also said they incurred debt in order to reach THAT milestone, and claims that the same debt led to their downfall decades later. Nonsense. About as ridiculous as the assertion that American needs “Spudnuts” movements, regardless of how much she wraps the proposal up with home-spun homilies about “hard-working American families”, etc. It’s meaningless, vapid.

It just goes to show that trying to decipher the rantings and ravings of a pseudo-intellectual are fraught with peril. It’s like trying to predict what a crazy person will say or do next. If we COULD predict what they’d do or say next, they wouldn’t be considered insane.

Phocus2 said:
Wow, some people are sure willing to display their lack of education and resultant naiveté. The launch of Sputnik kicked off the Russians attempt to out perform us in space and military strength. They spent themselves into ruin and Reagan’s starwars finished them off.

Perhaps if Kathryn would read a book instead of lefty blogs, she would know than Palin was spot on with her reference to Sputnik and the fall of the Soviet Union.

BTW, it’s a questionable assertion whether “Star Wars” (officially known as SDI) had a significant role in forcing USSR to try and keep up militarily, at that point: the USSR was pretty much bankrupt before hearing about the project (and some would say the U.S. faked many elements of SDI, as a kind of bluff or dis-information campaign to goad USSR into spending further). There’s NO evidence that the USSR bought into the bluff, or even could’ve.

Regardless, the Space Race (goal being exploration of space, and not the military deployment into space, ALA “Star Wars”) is defined as lasting from 1955-1975, entry being the build-up to launching a satellite, ending with the joint Apollo-Soyuz Test Project in 1975. So trying to tie the first leg of the Space Race (Sputnik 1) or even SDI with the collapse of the USSR is a hard sell, at best.

Davidod,

Don’t you think Soviet’s Afghanistan War had something to do with their bankruptcy?

mediadoubt said:
There’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that Palin has sewed up the crank vote.

Yes if you don’t like what I say I must be a crank. That is very astute of you, very intelligent. Can’t even look at what I had to say even. Try addressing the comment. The more you bash someone the more intelligent people will take a real look at the person to see what it is all about. The more the comments made by those who hate her have no substance the more people will side with her due to unwarranted attacks. I have looked into what she has accomplished and see things I like and things I don’t. If I wanted I could make comments with substance to show I didn’t like her. Why can’t you!