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Newt Gingrich And Juan Williams Rumble Over Proposed ‘Child Janitors’ Claim

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Newt Gingrich has said several things on the campaign trail that raised eyebrows from a race perspective: his idea to turn young children into janitors, for example, or calling President Obama “the food stamp president.” It all came back at him tonight via Juan Williams, who asked, repeatedly, whether Gingrich saw the comments as “insulting” or whether he understood why it sounded like “you’re belittling people.” Gingrich’s short answer? “No.”

RELATED: Not An Onion Spoof: Newt Gingrich’s Education Plan Is To Fire Janitors And Replace Them With Kids

Williams listed several of Gingrich’s comments first about inner-city children and the lack of work role models they have in their lives, and his idea to give them jobs at young ages to teach them responsibility. “Can’t you see this is viewed at a minimum insulting to all Americans, but as particularly to African Americans?” “No, I don’t see that,” Gingrich replied, giving an anecdote of his daughter doing janitorial work as her first job, and another individual who worked in the donut industry. “Only the elites despise earning money,” he responded with a flourish.

Williams then turned and reasked the question somewhat more harshly: “My Twitter has been inundated with people of all races asking if your comments are not intended to belittle the poor,” he began, to boos from the crowd. Williams noted that he was asked by someone at a black church in South Carolina why he called President Obama a “food stamp president”: “it sounds as if you are seeking to belittle people.”

“The fact is that more people have been put on food stamps under Barack Obama than any other president in history,” Gingrich replied, adding that he believed that Americans had a right to “pursue happiness” and did mind that liberals disagreed, and “I will continue to find ways to help poor people find a job, get a job, and learn someday to own the job.”

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  • Anonymous

    How is Gingrich taken seriously by anyone but his immediate family?

  • Anonymous

    Is the Hitler pose pic an accident?

  • Anonymous

    Worry not, GOP. Apparently your base can still get fired up by ol’ fashioned race baiting!

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The best kind.

  • Anonymous

    juan thew the race catrd, newt threw the mlk card.

  • Anonymous

    Does the crowd know this is a debate, not a K l a n  rally?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Or…
    Newt publicly shares racist and reactionary thoughts…
    People notice…
    Juan crafted a question from the raw material…
    Newt explained himself in a manner that had MLK rotate in his grave.

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    The twitter question came from a “dixie” enthusiast… so probably not.

  • Anonymous

    Is it?

  • http://twitter.com/Agonzo1 anthonybgonzalez

    Newt Getrich thumbs his nose to Juan Williams and talks down to him.  What a farce.

  • Anonymous

    Juan Williams predictably threw down the race card and Newt Gingrich stuffed the card back down his throat. Good, I can’t stand when Williams race-baits, especially when race was injected by people like Juan Williams when Newt Gingrich never mentioned race once in his original quote.

  • Anonymous

    Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd is rotting in hell right now, so no Klan rallies unless you want to start your own.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JRADBG47W2J6RBDBO5LLLFR34M darrell

    my god this is so sad. you don,t think most america agree with this.

  • http://PalinsDirtyLittleSecret.blogspot.com/ IcaughtOsamaClickHere4Proof

    political theater 

  • Anonymous

    Are u freakin kiddin, newt said loud and clear he would go to the naacp convention and tell them to demand paychecks not more foodstamps. Also teaching poor children in the inner city(most inner cities have a large or majority minority population dumbass) how to work is where race came in. Newt started dis shit.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TWK2YYJTTIDLZIVV7NKZM23Z6Q Tyler

    I understand why this got so much applause in South Carolina, because wasn’t South Carolina the first state to succeed from the union?  I’m just asking the questions.    

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    I see your Robert Byrd (who said he could never apologize enough) and raise you a Strom Thurmond (who went to his grave never acknowledging his black daughter)

  • Anonymous

     Newt’s bigotry is no secret, and his insulting professorial stance is the definition of elitism. What a creep. He knows he can’t win – he just wants to sell books and whore attention.

  • Anonymous

    GOP calls it welfare if your black, but business tax credits if you’re white.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart-Morgay/100001554351938 Bart Morgay

    The only thing missing from the bloodthirsty mob at that debate was white sheets but they will go home disappointed that there will be no lynching tonight.  Embarrassing display for America. 

  • Anonymous

    Probably the worst debate of the election cycle. Sounded like it took place in a Univ. of SC frat house. Fox should be ashamed of allowing the crowd to be part of the debate.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000193585538 Lee Coates

    Bigotry from Newt?  Are you Kidding me? Really? Are you all that far gone?  Newt wants to give these kids the ability to learn when actual money comes from, not give them money from the government like Obama, and the Democrats.  You all must be mad.  I am very disappointing that this many people cannot pull their heads out of their asses long enough to see that what he is saying is not racist. It is Anti Racist. 

    The Liberals and Democrats have to go after Newt and any other While Republican. Because they know that we know who the True Racists are, and would remove their power over their slaves in one fail swoop.  The Republican party has always, and will always be the party for equality and freedom. From Lincoln to Rosa Parks to MLK. We have had the backs of the lower and slave class. 

    But, in this day and age, the media and Liberals have distorted and built a farce around themselves as the only party out for the little guy. All the while holding them down with Entitlements and handouts to get their votes.  It is Jim Crow all over again but disguised as a Super Hero.  It cannot stand. Wake up America, and see that when we say these things, it is not to put you down, but to bring you up.  We want all Americans to have the exact same rights and opportunities as any other. And not pick winners and losers.  

    Newt knows this, and knows what the Libs are doing to them, and is trying to end it. Are you?

  • Anonymous

    not a big Juan fan…but he was brilliant…..Newt kiss the black vote goodbye

  • Anonymous

    Yes, GOP, that´s awesomely 21st century and a genius plan for economic prosperity . Poor people don´t know how to work and kids over ten should stfu and get a job.  That´s the real problem. Teach them how to work, hire kids and America will shine brightly.

    The crazyness of right wing authoritarians never ceases to amaze me.

  • http://twitter.com/EricBballCourt Eric B

    Headline should read, “Juan Williams Carted to Hospital After Debate to Get Newt’s Shoe Removed From His Ass”

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    I am very disappointing

    Well you got 1 thing right.

  • Anonymous

    I agree with you.  How can someone be racist when they say that they have faith in your abilities to succeed and will try to better your life?  That poor people should be given a better chance of getting out of the poverty rut no matter what color your skin is.  That a poor person should be taught the skills that are needed to empower themselves and better their lives.

    What in G0d’s name is racist about this?  I just don’t understand how some of you are saying that Newt should be wearing white robes.  The clan had no desire to help those people.

    Newt is actually anti racist. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart-Morgay/100001554351938 Bart Morgay

    Newt probably won’t get the GOP nomination but after tonight he is the front-runner to be the next Grand Wizard.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    Seriously? With all the problems in the world, Newt wants to demonize high school janitors as some kind of overpaid class living in luxury?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    says the party that happily kept an unapologetically racist Strom “unacknowledged black love child” Thurmond as a leader for decades.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    says the party that happily kept an unapologetically racist Strom “unacknowledged black love child” Thurmond as a leader for decades.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    yeah, he’s so anti-racist when he goes around conjuring up tired stereotypes of black people living on food stamps.

  • Anonymous

    They are talking about work ethics.  I believe that they are right although I blame the state of our society,   

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Newt slowly stuffed a boot up his own fanny… Juan asked him how he felt with the leather pressed against his colon… Newt vomited on his front side. Not a great headline.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C7RM2CCQUO4VVC56BAXMWCYYKQ Samsohn

    …that’s not just why Newt went off on Juan but it’s also exactly why Rick Perry went apeshit screaming that S.C. was at WAR with the federal gov’t over the NLRB! Crazy how funny these clowns are!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_C7RM2CCQUO4VVC56BAXMWCYYKQ Samsohn

    Juan Williams and Sean Hannity were both yelling ‘BEST DEBATE’ afterwards – hilarious

  • https://www.google.com/accounts/o8/id?id=AItOawmS1H0GlNDiHCXlUQxKLF8-_OhSQfgcNpg Orktane

    I am waiting for the Janitors’ Super PAC to come out against Newt any time soon. Watch out.

  • Anonymous

    “Juan Williams predictably threw down the race card and Newt Gingrich stuffed the card back down his throat.”

    More like shoved it up his ass!!!

  • Anonymous

    I felt like taking a bath after hearing that crowd. 

    Dead silence on Ron Paul’s thoughtful answer on inequalities in arrest and sentencing, wild cheering when Gingrich said, no he won’t be apologizing for offending blacks by GENERALLY questioning their commitment to work.Does the crowd know that the confederacy lost?

    Brrrrrrr!

  • Anonymous

    Well done Frances, you managed to completely distort Newt’s point and make him appear as a racist, congratulations! It also appears you got the liberal flank to throw out some “klan rally” remarks. All in a days work of distorting the truth, huh?

    I’m sorry to tell you but anyone who watched the debate knows Newt does NOT want to turn all young children into janitors and that there IS a record number of people on food stamps under the Obama presidency. Frances, wouldn’t it be nice if no one watched the debates and only got your distorted version of reality from your misleading propaganda piece of something only a fool could mistake as journalism?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    Newt assumes that the poor and urban do not work.  They work more than most.  Newt believes the poor and urban should be trained to clean.  They should be trained to lead.  

  • Anonymous

    Lee Coates: “and would remove their power over their slaves in one fail swoop…”"
    ___________________________________________________

    Did you really just describe blacks who support the Democratic party as slaves?

  • http://gregingleright.weebly.com/ Greg

    He’s a rotten fellow.

  • http://twitter.com/12barbluz Lightnin’ James

    Newt Gingrich blew more dog whistles than the Westminster Kennel Club.

  • http://thefunemployed.blogspot.com/ rance

    I agree with almost everything Newt said, with the exception of poor black kids being lazy.  He is correct (factually) that we have more people on food stamps now than any time in our history.  I also think his idea of having poor kids (regardless of race) work to develop a work ethic and understand what it takes not only to get a job, but to keep a job. 

    Again, I think he is wrong about the lazy part.  The issue is that these kids are necessarily lazy, they  come from homes were no adult works.  They collect welfare.  These are kids that don’t have an understanding of what working everyday means or that you have to show up everyday and on time.  I taught in the inner city for 7 years and this is what I saw.  These are kids that only know a life of welfare.  They know “jobs” are available, but they don’t know exactly how to go about getting them or what they have to do to keep them. Or what they do to get promoted, or find another job when they have acquired more marketable skills.

    Most Americans grow up in a household and community were everyone has a job.  They learn about work and work ethic by observing those around them.  Kids from the inner city observe those around them not working, and that is what they learn.  That is the life and world they live in.

    If they are given the opportunity to work while in school and develop good work habits and work ethic (which many will fail as they learn), when they get out of school they will have the knowledge and understanding of what work and holding down a job is all about and will hopefully be more successful than the generations before them. 

    You have to realize these kids come from a different world than most Americans.  Things we take for granted that we “just know”, they don’t.  And there is nothing racist about wanting to teach poor kids a work ethic or have them learn those skills by starting out as a janitor, if you truly are interested in moving these kids out of poverty.  The goal is for these kids to develop a work ethic and develop marketable skills so they can move up the economic ladder.  It is not for them to be janitors their whole life. 

    What was your first job and are you still doing that job?

  • http://thefunemployed.blogspot.com/ rance

    Taking money from Bob to give to John is not the same thing as letting Bob keep more of the money he makes. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/chasrmartin Charlie Martin

    Folks, his name is “WilliamS” “Juan WilliamS”.

    It must be because Mediaite’s editors are racists.  They’d have spelled a white commentator’s name right.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    But that’s not what he said…

    “Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have
    one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school.
    The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have
    pride in the schools, they’d begin the process of rising.”

    He said (direct quote) that we should fire adults that he believes are getting too much pay and benefits and hire children at a much lower rate, with no benefits.  This has nothing to do with giving the kids a since of responsibility or a job, it has to do with cheep, disposable labor.  He also said “these schools” as he was speaking of poor inner city schools.  So by his logic, only these schools would be doing this.  There for a upper class or private school would be able to hire adults, while the poorer kids will have to do hard labor to earn an education.  That’s not the American Dream, that’s is indentured servitude.  Its not something from Norman Rockwell or Mark Twain, but from Charles Dickens or Upton Sinclair.

    So lets look at the problems faced by this.  You would be laying off thousands if not millions of people across this country.  Some of whom are supporting families that go to these schools.  Therefor tax revenue will go down.  Men and women will have to work two or three low wage jobs just too keep up, thus spending less time at home, thus eroding a already thin family unit.  Also what if no kid wants to the job?  What if no child signs up due to the fact that no parent wants a child working around industrial strength chemicals?  Especially those, that if handled or disposed of improperly, can be harmful or fatal to everyone in the school.  Now if no one signs up, does that mean the school goes unmanaged? Or will the government have to step in and force these kids to work?  How can you support a government that forces its citizenry into a job that no one wants?  That is not freedom.  Also, and here is the pink elephant in the room, whats to stop these kids from learning that a good job only pays minimal wages, yet selling drugs, prostituting themselves, selling stolen goods, or outright larceny pays much much more? 

    Tell me again, how this solves the problem in the “inner city”?

  • Anonymous

    I have raised children, grandchildren, and other peoples children in my lifetime and one thing I have learned is that children emulate the adults around them.  If parents smoke and drink, children tend to do so also.  We are their examples.  If their parents work hard, children follow their example.  Sometimes other people become their role models  Where Newt gets it wrong is he is saying one ethnic group exhibits a lack of a work ethic.  Actually, Newt knows  better.  You can’t live in America and not see daily the many Blacks who work and succe ed at what they do.  Every American knows this, so hhe is deliberately lying to make a whole race of people look bad.  Newt knows there are a lot of racists in this country who will buy this approach and give him their vote.  What he doesn’t know, being a newly converted Christian, is the fact we Christians will have to give an account one day of every lie that was told and pay the ultimate price of all liars.  Newt needs to learn that Satan is the father of lies and repent of those he told.

  • Anonymous

    No, Newt isn’t racist. He’s just a typical business-lovin’ Republican, wanting to take labor laws back to the 1930s. I’ll bet his favorite photos are of the little kids coming out of the coal mines back in the 1930s, with soot all over their faces. For that matter, the Newt-ron Bomb probably has visions of stripping every health- and safety-law on the books, for miners and other workers. I can see the canaries flying around in the mines now, if Newt were to become President.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    i love how the liberals cant dispute newts fact but just resort to using the race card. 

  • Anonymous

    How is taking money from Bob and giving it to corporations not welfare also?

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I should give you some history on why Newt’s suggestion is so offensive.

     Not too long ago maybe less than fifty years ago blacks especially in the Jim Crow South were relegated to menial work like maids and butlers and farm work which required little or no education.
     Why should black aspire only to manual labor jobs?

     Also the only way that children of poor blacks will get out of poverty is more education so why isn’t he suggesting more education–maybe after school programs to enhance their educational opportunities.
     But what Newt seems to be implying is that these children won’t be able to achieve in school they may as well get used to working menial jobs.

     And does Newt not understand that there are already adults who work as janitors to support themselves and their families. I am sure they will have problems competing with children who can be paid less than them.

     What Newt also doesn’t understand and it proves that he is out of touch with common Americans (dare I call him elitist) is that there is a class called the working poor who qualify for food stamps.

     Of course some whites refuse to acknowledge that when blacks are given a chance that we not only succeed but exceed expectations and so some attempt to belittle the achievements of blacks by implying falsely that affirmative action is the only way that blacks succeed.

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I should give you some history on why Newt’s suggestion is so offensive besides doubling down on a suggestion which had racial overtones and doing it on MLK Day in the first state to secede from the Union due to slavery.
      Not too long ago maybe less than fifty years ago blacks especially in the Jim Crow South were relegated to menial work like maids and butlers and farm work which required little or no education.
     Why should black aspire only to manual labor jobs?
      Also the only way that children of poor blacks will get out of poverty is more education so why isn’t he suggesting more education–maybe after school programs to enhance their educational opportunities.
     But what Newt seems to be implying is that these children won’t be able to achieve in school they may as well get used to working menial jobs.
      And does Newt not understand that there are already adults who work as janitors to support themselves and their families. I am sure they will have problems competing with children who can be paid less than them.
      What Newt also doesn’t understand and it proves that he is out of touch with common Americans (dare I call him elitist) is that some people who work also qualify for food stamps.
      Of course some whites refuse to acknowledge that when blacks are given a chance that we not only succeed but exceed expectations and so some attempt to belittle the achievements of blacks by implying falsely that affirmative action is the only way that blacks succeed.
     

  • Anonymous

    Maybe I should give you some history on why Newt’s suggestion is so offensive besides doubling down on a suggestion which had racial overtones and doing it on MLK Day in the first state to secede from the Union due to slavery.
      Not too long ago maybe less than fifty years ago blacks especially in the Jim Crow South were relegated to menial work like maids and butlers and farm work which required little or no education.
     Why should black aspire only to manual labor jobs?
      Also the only way that children of poor blacks will get out of poverty is more education so why isn’t he suggesting more education–maybe after school programs to enhance their educational opportunities.
     But what Newt seems to be implying is that these children won’t be able to achieve in school they may as well get used to working menial jobs.
      And does Newt not understand that there are already adults who work as janitors to support themselves and their families. I am sure they will have problems competing with children who can be paid less than them.
      What Newt also doesn’t understand and it proves that he is out of touch with common Americans (dare I call him elitist) is that some people who work also qualify for food stamps.
      Of course some whites refuse to acknowledge that when blacks are given a chance that we not only succeed but exceed expectations and so some attempt to belittle the achievements of blacks by implying falsely that affirmative action is the only way that blacks succeed.
     

  • Anonymous

    Either that or just chase a Romney campaign bus and voila, $50 bucks magically appear in your pocket… and you get interviewed on CNN by Soledad O’Brien as the cherry on top

  • Anonymous

    Gingrich:
    “I will go to the NAACP convention, and tell the African-American community why they should demand paychecks instead of food stamps.” 

    NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous :
    “It is a shame that the former Speaker feels that these types of inaccurate, divisive statements are in any way helpful to our country. The majority of people using food stamps are not African-American, and most people using food stamps have a job.” 

  • Anonymous

    Libs are sooooooooo dumb. The current Heisman winner worked as a janitor when he went to a private school to help pay for his tuition. Working at ANY job is good for kids. Libs always look down on people that work at jobs THEY think are below their dignity. LIBS are losers.

  • Pablo

    Yeah, only a racist would even consider putting black people to work! 0_0

  • Pablo

    Newt started black poverty?

  • Pablo

    Tax credits aren’t giving money to corporations. Giving money to corporations is what Obama did with Solyndra.

  • Pablo

    So how many casualties were there? Were more people assaulted at the debate or at Occupy DC?

  • Pablo

    Learn where money comes from? Everybody knows where money comes from!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ojd13kZlCA

  • Pablo

    So, the urban unemployment rate is lower then the average?

  • Pablo

    Where Newt gets it wrong is he is saying one ethnic group exhibits a lack of a work ethic.

    When did he say that?

  • Anonymous

    Your comment is almost the opposite of dumb. Children should work at ANY
    job, May I suggest coal mines, nuclear plants, the police and the
    military? Wouldn´t hurt a child to do some surgery, too. “Working at ANY
    job is good for kids”, right. The winner of a sports trophy is a very
    strong argument for child labor – hilarious.

    GOP – winning the future on the back of our children. 

    The impertinence of even mentioning the supposed lack of work ethics of
    children (wink,wink, folks, we all know who is meant by that) is only
    trumped by the gullibility and ignorance of people supporting that
    preposterous notion instead of realizing the real causes of our problems.  

  • Tucsonense

    gordonbloyer has turned into a name caller. Libs always this, libs always that……………………What happened to you?

  • Anonymous

    You need to learn from your screen name…your comment is absurd on its face and demonstrates a complete lack of common sense.

  • Anonymous

    Like the Govenor of Maine who wanted to raise the number of hours scool kids could work and earn less than minimum wage.

  • Anonymous

    When you attack me personally try to be at least original and not as boring and predictable as some Tina Tampa.

  • Anonymous

    Yes, indeed. Obviously certain interest groups would like to lower the wages by talking about children´s lack of work ethics. And they aren´t even ashamed of it.

  • Anonymous

    The economic crash that led to massive unemployment , and gradual lowering of income , did not happen under this president so implying more people on food stamps is his fault or his plan is disingenious at best. He also ignored the fact that a lot of the people receiving food stamps already have jobs and the elligibility for working families were lowered at state levels beginning in 2007.

    The candidates casually throw out “I’ll cerate jobs” as if nobody else is even trying. It’s campaign bullshit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    hot air is comforting in the winter, and you can use it for barbecue in the summer

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1190134026 Barry Dalton

    so you’re saying black people must be “put” to work, huh?

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for pointing that out.

  • Anonymous

    There’s nothing wrong with suggesting kids in general get part time jobs to develop a work ethic. Suggesting we get rid of working adults and give those jobs to kids is just stupid. Newt is pompous and condecending and refuses to recognize it. He seems to see himself as a straight shooter.
    As someone pointed out, you want to help the poor kids out, maybe work to make the school system better, rather than fire the janitors who likley have families and replace them with kids. Then there’s this

    Dead silence on Ron Paul’s thoughtful answer on inequalities in arrest
    and sentencing, wild cheering when Gingrich said, no he won’t be
    apologizing for offending blacks by GENERALLY questioning their
    commitment to work

    There are plenty of people out there who abuse entitlement programs at the expense of their fellow taxpayers. Liberals should recognize that fact and understand that if you make it to easy, you remove motivation. IMO something should be required of able bodied people who recieve aide. Not out of cruelty but a realisitic appraoch to human nature. As I said to my kids, “Sometimes you have to love someone enough to kick them in the ass”
    That said, what conservatives should realize is that there is also waste and entitlement on the other end of the scale. It wasn’t those in poverty and on food stamps that caused the economic meltdown. Billions and billions in subsidiers and tax breaks to those who already control most of the money. You want to correct the blindness of those who don’t agree with you. Work on your own a little.

  • Anonymous

    Dear Pablo, here is a list of the vast Corporate-Government Funding that has gone on, not only in POTUS OBAMA administration, but previous administrations….http://funding-programs.idilogic.aidpage.com/….so, lets be as ‘outraged’ no matter what POTUS does it!

  • Anonymous

    Well, it’s not like they’re gonna work all by themselves!

  • Anonymous

    Tax credits take moneys out of my pocket and give them to favored entities.  I’m against it whether they go to Solyndra _OR_ Exxon.  The only thing the FedGov should be doing is funding a 5-carrier navy, the USMC, a large reserve army and air corps, and securing borders/processing legal immigrants.  Anything that’s explicitly in the Constitution, and almost nothing that isn’t.  Repeal 16th and 17th amendments, pay for FedGov with tariffs, fees and a Fair sales tax with prebate.  

    Do it now voluntarily before mathematics and the rule of 72 cause us to have to do so in conditions that won’t make any of the choices better than abominable.

  • http://thefunemployed.blogspot.com/ rance

    1. This is the reason I asked what your first job was and if you are still working in that job. 

    It is ridiculous to believe someone working a minimum wage paying job would only “learn” that “good jobs only pays minimal wage”, as you said.  Anyone who worked as a teenager is not still working in that low wage, low skilled job.  It would be no different for inner city kids.

    2.  You missed the point I was making and the point Newt was making.  It is about giving these kids the opportunity to learn work ethic.  Again, they do not come from homes where they learn it by observing others.  So where else are they going to learn this?  By denying them the ability to work when they are young, you are denying them the ability to learn what getting and keeping a job is about and what it takes.

    3.  When Newt said, “these schools”, the inner city schools are exactly what he was talking about?  This is where the problem lies, in the inner city.  What is the politically correct way of referring to “those schools”.

    4.  You fear mongering of dangerous chemicals is just an obstacle put in the way of allowing these kids to have the ability to work.  I am sure these children live in a home where they have such dangerous chemicals and I’m sure they use them in their home when they clean the bathrooms, mop the floors, and wash dishes.  Or are you implying they never clean their home and live in filth?

    5.The children will not be forced to work, but most of them will sign up for it because it allows them the ability to make money.  These are not kids that come from homes where mom and dad dole out the money to them.  You underestimate these children and what motivates them.  They are typical teenagers that want some extra spending money in their pocket so they can buy the teenage trinkets all teenagers buy.  Except, again, they are not like you that had mommy and daddy hand over a wad of bills to buy your crap.

    Why do you want to deny these kids an opportunity to work, build marketable skills, learn a work ethic that will benefit them well into adulthood?  They are denied those opportunities now.

  • Chuck Farley

    In many countries, children are expected to take pride in their schools and participate in keeping the classrooms, hallways, and restrooms clean. They don’t even get paid, it’s simply expected of them. The end result is that they don’t grow up to be janitors – they start out mopping the floor with soap and water, and then they finish by mopping the floor with you in the fields of mathematics and science.

    Oh, but then we’d lose millions of jobs! Families would be torn apart! The national economy would collapse! Oh, the horror – and all because of a ten year old armed with a cotton towel and a bottle of citrus cleaner…

  • Pablo

    Nope. I hear they want to work. Are you saying that?

  • Pablo

    I am, being a limited government guy. Your link doesn’t work, btw.

  • Pablo

    No, tax credits don’t take money out of your pocket. Taxes do.

  • Pablo

    What part of “I will continue to find ways to help poor people find a job, get a job, and learn someday to own the job.” tells you they should only aspire to menial labor?

  • Anonymous

    Tax credits to favored entities in fact extract _more_ in tax from my pocket than would otherwise be extracted if those credits were not given, therefore they result in higher taxes on me.  Pedantry is the last refuge of the lost argument.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    Yes because we really want a economic system like India and China.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    1. Go to any inner city school and ask them which pays more. A part time job, or selling dope. They know the answer. It is simple economics. This is also why meth and copper are big business in the rural parts of the country.

    2. I think you missed the point that Newt was making. This isn’t about that. This is about breaking unions and rolling back almost a hundred years of child labor law. We have tried this before and it has failed miserably. Kids in mines, factories, and even slave labor was used in this country. There are countless documents of the inhumane treatment they were forced into. Would you want to go back to that? They do it in other countries like China, India, Pacific Asia, and South America. Those area’s are bastions of freedom aren’t they? I know it is only janitorial work now, but soon it will be working with machinery or maybe working in a mine. That’s the way business works. Now, if this was a boarding school or a farm like system where it is part of the curriculum, and every member pulls his/her fair share, then I have no problem with this. However, that is not what he said. He said fire adults, and hire children.

    3. So you admit that this would not be implemented in upper middle class, suburban areas? So you have successfully taught a child that he works for the rich. You also have breed a deep seeded resentment, as well as teaching the white kids that the poor cleans up after them. This is not equal opportunity. A child cannot simply work his way to a better school. This is not how America works.

    4. There is quite a bit of difference in household cleaning products and industrial strength professional products. That’s why you cannot buy them from Walmart. Let me put it this way, what if there was a pool in the school? There would be solid chlorine, liquid chlorine, and salt in the supply cabinets. If those would some how mix (they have in the past), you have just made the same chemical weapon that Saddam used against his own people. Also, there is a difference between cleaning your home and cleaning a building being used by hundreds of people daily.

    5. So if they are not forced to work, then what happens when only two kids sign up? Obviously you are not privy to their motivations either. Look at hip hop. Most songs are now about how much money they have. Most people don’t get into the drug trade because they like the work. It is extremely profitable.

    Also, why the personal attack? I did not personally attack you. As a matter of fact, I grew up in a rural area and worked on a farm in the summer. I had my chores to do and mommy and daddy did not hand over a wad of cash to me. They taught me what work and responsibility means, not the Government! That isn’t the government’s job. I went to school (private btw) to learn, not to do hard labor. That was saved for home. Also, when are these kids going to be learning? If janitorial work is an 8 hour a day job, when will they have time to do their studies?

  • Anonymous

    Hey Newt;- isn’t that why America elected a black man to the Oval Office
    – to clean up the mess left behind by 43 white presidents?

  • Anonymous

    ? What are you smoking?

  • Anonymous

    Are you as stupid as this comment? Who said anything about putting “kids” in a coal mine or any of the other jobs you list? It is clear that you missed the “education” part of your life.

  • Anonymous

    The person did not attack you “personally” since nobody knows who you are. You are one of many cowards that hide behind a phony name to make stupid coments and spread lies.
    Now go crawl back in your hole.

  • Anonymous

    How did you get so stupid?

  • Anonymous

    Isn’t it just typical for the Democrats to yell racist at every turn…….too bad they can’t run on obama’s record!

  • Anonymous

    Hold on, he probably wants some kid to dig his crawlly space deeper at sub-minimum wage no he can hide his exploitative ass better…

  • Anonymous

    It ain’t the “liberals” that” resort to using the race card”..It’s reactionary newtonian symps who are convinced that this nation does not have  a “race problem”..just like in apartheid South Africa, various other temporary bastions of white supremacy, the ACTUAL problem.

  • Anonymous

    Beyond these rancid, reactionary comments, rance, what did you ”teach” for seven years in the “inner city”? Clearly, you learned little, or nothing.. Have you heard of the terms “reserve army of the unemployed, lumpen proletariat, illiteracy..? The vast majority of the near 150 million Americans now accelerating into the descending slide to near poverty, do not live in the inner city, they live in the same world as the “most” Americans as you, a condescending, clueless “teacher”. Jesus you give home schoolers, privatisers just the lying ammunition they savor. You have to realize that the world you write from is a diffrent world form most Americans, the Newtonian/Alice In Wonderland world of rightist reinforcement stupidities.
    What is your present job and are you as bad at it as you are in expressing such horrid notions?>

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  

    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  

    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  

    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Chuck Farley

    Ah, I see – it’s a bad idea to have school kids stay after for an hour and clean the hallways because they might accidentally assemble a weapon of mass destruction and destroy the whole planet.

    Did you know that the earth is actually spinning right now? That means if you jump up in the air, you could actually get hit with the Eiffel Tower as it comes around. It’s safest just to stay home.

    Hysterics – it’s how the left rolls.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  

    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Anonymous

    Apparently, reading isn´t your strong suite.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    care to elaborate? I know Cable Access Four has tight deadlines, but if you would please explain how I am dumb, It would help tremendously.

  • Chuck Farley

    I can tell you weren’t home-schooled – nobody pulling the savory lies of newtonian wool  over your world of rance, that’s for suredom!

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  

    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  

    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  
    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Chuck Farley

    “I can see the canaries flying around in the mines now…”

    That’s really good – here are some other metaphors you should try:

    Closing the barn door after the milk is spilled.

    Putting the cart before the golden goose.

    A bird in the hand, is worth its salt.

    But remember, after you use them you should probably also add that conservatives are uneducated and anti-intellectual.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  
    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Jon Weiss

    Newts critics are truly a pitiable lot.  
    They rant about his comments on kids working, but as a kid who started out washing dishes and busing tables at age 14, and who never had a day of unemployment until Obama’s policies put me out of work at age 50, I fail to see the problem with kids going to work.  

    It is long past time that some of them got off their lazy butts and got jobs, and we should give priority to the youth of America for the minimum wage entry level jobs, instead of giving priority to illegal aliens.

    I worked at entry level jobs at minimum wage from age 14 to age 18 when I enlisted in the U.S. Army, and after 22 years in the military, I retired and then re-entered the civilian workforce, in a completely different career field, necessitating my retraining myself from being a Cavalry Scout to being a computer technician.  Obama’s war on business wiped out my second career, so now at age 54 I am in the process of starting my third career.  You have to start somewhere and if kids think they are going to start at the top, they  bad better make sure that Daddy has a corporation for them to take over, or they need to have a Daddy in the White House to get them a job like the Clinton’s did their kid.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    That’s not what he said. He said fire adult janitors and hire children. Also, you must not have ever worked in maintenance, as I can tell you 1 hour by ten students will not keep a school building clean.

    Now did I say the world will end? No, but any first year chemistry student can tell you that by mixing just a few chemicals can cause an evacuation of a building and serious problems to the people in it. You should have learned this in school. But here are some links…

    http://chemistry.about.com/od/healthsafety/a/dangeousmix.htm

    http://chemistry.about.com/od/toxicchemicals/a/Mixing-Bleach-And-Ammonia.htm

    http://www.ifma-austin.org/chemical.htm

    http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/swimming.html

    Yeah the last one is from Canada, but the last I checked, chemistry knows no nationality.

    There, I have refuted your points with facts and refrained from name calling, yet you tell me how people “feel” and insult me. Explain again, how I am hysteric? Maybe you should brush up on vocabulary while studying chemistry.

  • Anonymous

    Not true ….most are Black … per capita … same with Aids, Prison, Drug
    use, Fatherless homes, Drug Dealers, Basketball player’s …. ending on a
    positive note.

    FYI… Check out Black Crime FBI ……… This is real Racist information
    even that it’s fact.

  • Anonymous

    BINGO

  • Anonymous

    IT is what it is…as HOLDER said White’s are COWARD’S when talking about Race, I can see why they are … TRUTH = KKK MEMBER .

  • Anonymous

    Check out FBI…….. Gov crime stats…. oh my …. oh my … The truth hurts.

  • Anonymous

    Race baiting…….sorry to say is best done by just finding out fact,
    start with Fatherless Homes in the HOOD. Then Drug use, followed by AID’S
    infections to Black Women from Black Men. The Shame of …. NO lack of shame of
    Blacks per capita win Prison attendance.

  • Anonymous

    lol………………lol…………. A FEN BINGO on that.

  • Anonymous

    No a racist would belittle them for not working, but not have a plan to offer work to said people! Hey thats the gop

  • Anonymous

    I bet you say “your” people when you talk to an African American.

  • Anonymous

    What do you think? There republicans it’s always a “klan” meeting when they gather!

  • Anonymous

    Name a Republican president who created a $ Trillion slush fund in the name of saving our economy and instead rewarded his friends and allies so they could play at starting green businesses, while filling their pockets, or buying major auto industries with our money and building electric cars that don’t work and will never be sold.

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    As usual…Newt kicked ass.
    I would give my right nut to see him take the Muslim apart.
    DROOL!!!!

  • Anonymous

    well after all Juan works for FOX

  • Anonymous

    i wanna be just like Newt when i grow up…except for that “Tiffany’s bill” thing OH…and the 3 wives thing…OH yeah and that got throw out of the Adminstration thing.

  • Anonymous

    Newt wants the ‘coloreds’ to have jobs so that he and many of the “CLEATUS” types in the audience that were applauding last nite dont have to use their tax money to support others I GET IT!!!

    I see a revival of shoeshine stands and tap dancing all across America.

  • http://thefunemployed.blogspot.com/ rance

    You you didn’t grow up in the inner city and I assume are not a poor black person nor have ever worked with these kids? but yet, you know so much about them. Interesting.

  • Just some Blow Hard…

    You assume wrong, but thats not a surprise now is it? No I didn’t grow up in the inner city, but spent a good portion of my life in LA and currently live in an urban area, Why are all poor kids black? Would your rules only effect the black kids? If so, then that tells me quite a bit.

  • Anonymous

    Don’t bother with facts. These hysterical mouth breathers already have their minds made up.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M35J5ZGSERSNOGURWTMPNHL5HY Gary A

    What is wrong with being a janitor, when my father’s corporation closed up, he became a janitor to make ends meet, I was a janitor for awhile. I kept working, worked through college, finally got a better job. Did it guarantee success? No. Only hard work does. We didn’t take money from the government. Case closed.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YENLPMAVYI4M4WKD2IPSYI7NPY Oldschoolrepublican

    Which family is considered immediate today?

  • Anonymous

    Are the NAACP white?

  • Anonymous

    Pay attention…..the deadbeat dads did…..

  • Anonymous

    That is true…..They train people to work in Los Angeles….

  • Anonymous

    Since John bailed out Bob, he owes us…..

  • Anonymous

    It’s Corporate welfare and that’s how Bob earns his money,,,,,

  • Anonymous

    Then where are the jobs….even your white brothers need jobs…..create some jobs…..

  • Anonymous

    Help us…..don’t get rid of education…..create some jobs…..so we can climb out of poverty…..

  • Anonymous

    Forgiveness is a virtue…..

  • Anonymous

    Some people do abuse these programs, but the County of Los Angeles

  • Anonymous

    has rules to limit abusers.  Nothing is free.  You have to work for what you get or you get cut off.  They are trained how to get a job.

  • Anonymous

    Most poor people already have a job.  They couldn’t live without one.  They just don’t make enough money.  Since the Republicans were in power, a good many Americans have lost their jobs.  Both Black and white are suffering.  Look around you.  They work in hospitals Banks,food service, hotels,Insurance companies,…..you name it, you will see Blacks. They work.  Do you live on an Island?  We’re the last hired and the first fired but we still work to overcome oppression bigotry and hatred and to provide for our families.  You cannot keep us down.  We are going to make it and still forgive you for that is what God has told us to do. 

  • Tucsonense

    ???? Thank you. My point proved!

  • http://twitter.com/jmrowland jmrowland

    It’s a matter of public record that more people went on food stamps during G.W. Bush’s administration than any other president in history.

  • Anonymous

    Tommy, ‘Blindness’ is a disability……but, I believe that you can see, so I’d ask you to look closely at what was posted and realize that you’re being played like a fool if you think this only applies to POTUS Obama, our Government as a whole has pulled the wool over our eyes, all while we see it coming but choose to blame who they point the finger at!!!!

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