I’m amazed at how quickly and efficiently Obama has got his ducks in a row and organised a response that doesn’t make America look like the Islamobashing bully-boy that his predecessor did.I’m sure the Republican’ts know this at heart and are insanely jealous of the man’s unflappable, intelligent and effective approach. LOL!!!

ScienceAddicto said:
I’m amazed at how quickly and efficiently Obama has got his ducks in a row and organised a response that doesn’t make America look like the Islamobashing bully-boy that his predecessor did.I’m sure the Republican’ts know this at heart and are insanely jealous of the man’s unflappable, intelligent and effective approach. LOL!!!

blind are you

ScienceAddicto said:
I’m amazed at how quickly and efficiently Obama has got his ducks in a row and organised a response that doesn’t make America look like the Islamobashing bully-boy that his predecessor did.I’m sure the Republican’ts know this at heart and are insanely jealous of the man’s unflappable, intelligent and effective approach. LOL!!!

I would say how amazed at the level of your blind partisan hypocrisy I am, but, I won’t. Could you please tell me when Libya attacked us? Thanks, in advance.

Lover said:
I would say how amazed at the level of your blind partisan hypocrisy I am, but, I won’t. Could you please tell me when Libya attacked us? Thanks, in advance.

exactly

The anti-war nuts that were screaming bloody murder when Bush was president have suddenly become pro-war. Soooooo predictable.

cjd ohio 1 said:
exactly

“science addicto” is more like drug addicto.

drug addicto is clearly just a dick.

Can’t wait to hear how the lamestreams socialist fake-news types blame this war on bush — so they can say it’s a BAD, very BAD war (unlike a war by “You Lie!” hussein, which, of course, would be a GOOD, very GOOD war, even though that’s an oxymoron to the morons of the lunatic-left.)

Well it could easily be argued that this one is on Reagan. He is the one who didn’t take the guy out when he had the chance.

catfishjuggling said:
Well it could easily be argued that this one is on Reagan. He is the one who didn’t take the guy out when he had the chance.

lol, nice spin

ScienceAddicto said:
I’m amazed at how quickly and efficiently Obama has got his ducks in a row and organised a response that doesn’t make America look like the Islamobashing bully-boy that his predecessor did.I’m sure the Republican’ts know this at heart and are insanely jealous of the man’s unflappable, intelligent and effective approach. LOL!!!

You are on the money; the tea-baggers are not going to like the truth, naturally. It’s who they are. They’d bitch whatever the situation.

And I’m sure that the left will call for Obama to send his daughters off to war just like they did with Bush. Vile liberal pukes…….

For those of you who say I’m never wrong, I never admit I’m wrong, well, you’re wrong, because I was wrong when I said that Americans who continue demonstrating against the war once the shooting begins are being un-American. I’m taking that back.

The word un-American implies some kind of lasting stigma and is a word of intimidation. Thus it is the wrong word to use in this scenario.

People who lawfully dissent should never be labeled un-American. Instead, I will call those who publicly criticize our country in a time of military crisis, which this is, bad Americans and it is my constitutional right to make that judgment and you are free to agree or disagree. You can call me a bad American for making the judgment.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79779,00.html

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, nice spin

I was being sacrastic. Sorry I wasn’t clearer.

BR said:
And I’m sure that the left will call for Obama to send his daughters off to war just like they did with Bush. Vile liberal pukes…….

Not exactly the same thing. The Bush daughters were old enough to serve.

So we are bombing yet another country now. Great. Obama has increased our troop levels oversea leading to more American deaths in two years than the entire Bush administration. There have been more Predator drone strikes in Obama’s first two years compared to all of Bush’s term. And now we are bombing yet another country. Yet the left says nothing. In fact they give him a Nobel Peace prize.

catfishjuggling said:
I was being sacrastic. Sorry I wasn’t clearer.

cool, but still nice spin, at least you have a sense of humor

Which loser just said yesterday that we wouldn’t bomb Libya? Funny stuff.

ModerateMan said:
So we are bombing yet another country now. Great. Obama has increased our troop levels oversea leading to more American deaths in two years than the entire Bush administration. There have been more Predator drone strikes in Obama’s first two years compared to all of Bush’s term. And now we are bombing yet another country. Yet the left says nothing. In fact they give him a Nobel Peace prize.

more american deaths is wrong , sorry but the rest i agree with

I’m pretty sure it was drug a dickto that said we wouldn’t bomb Libya.

Lover said:
drug addicto is clearly just a dick.

Lover said:
I’m pretty sure it was drug a dickto that said we wouldn’t bomb Libya.

You REALLY have some phallic thing going for this guy.

Are you a woman, or GAY?

nutsofast said:
You REALLY have some phallic thing going for this guy. Are you a woman, or GAY?

you are a liberal right? stay out of other peoples bedrooms

Holy hell. ABC broke into programming for a ‘statement by the President regarding Libya’…but it was just audio….Obama literally phoned it in! Wouldn’t want to interrupt his vaca in Rio. Jesus, he’s embarrassing.

“It won’t happen” is what the poster of many names said.

Ok! everybody on the left with me on 1-2-3-and, no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!??? O COME ON NOW!! you so good at it when BUSH was in office!!

DEFENDER-90 said:
Ok! everybody on the left with me on 1-2-3-and, no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!-no blood for OIL!!??? O COME ON NOW!! you so good at it when BUSH was in office!!

Funny thing is they are actually CHEERING this war.

Lover—BOMBS WITH R’s BAD!! BOMBS WITH D’s GOOD!

Bush bombs…..BAAAAAD

Obama bombs….Veeeery Good!

Lover said:
Bush bombs…..BAAAAAD

Obama bombs….Veeeery Good!

What are you morons bitching about? This is good , yes?

Garth said:
What are you morons bitching about? This is good , yes?

Dog catchers will be out real soon to pick you up!

Garth said:
This is good , yes?

No – This is horrible. We have no interest being in another war. First Obama was ineffective and had no stance on this and then he goes full-blown war (essentially in the works). What the heck are we doing in here at all?

Plus, if this IS war, where’s Congress on the Constitutional side of all of this?

WCinWI said:
No – This is horrible. We have no interest being in another war. First Obama was ineffective and had no stance on this and then he goes full-blown war (essentially in the works). What the heck are we doing in here at all?

You’d bitch either way. You’re an ideologue and and reason has been stuffed up your ass.

Garth said:
You’d bitch either way. You’re an ideologue and and reason has been stuffed up your ass.

as are you it seems

jo hoochie said:
Dog catchers will be out real soon to pick you up!

You need to be “put down.”

“Today I authorized the armed forces of the United States to begin a limited action in Libya…”

FYI: ONLY CONGRESS can “authorize” war according to the US Constitution ! But, then, when does “You Lie” hussein – or any lunatic-left d-crat socialist – ever obey the Constitution ?

There now can be NO DOUBT that this is “You Lie!” hussein’s war.

cjd ohio 1 said:
as are you it seems

And it is therefore and but for there it is. I love Alaska.

Garth said:
And it is therefore and but for there it is. I love Alaska.

outstanding

# Officials cite progress at most critical Japanese reactor
# Japan ‘miracle’ survivor story too good to be true
# Innocence Project professor pulled from university class
# Two Mich. Dems charged in fake tea-party candidate scandal
# Three U.S. states looking to reduce taxes on cigarettes
# Berlin zoo says beloved polar bear Knut has died

Yahoo “news”

Not a peep about Obama attacking a country that poses absolutely no threat to us or anyone.

cjd ohio 1 said:
outstanding

Naturally.

Garth said:
And it is therefore and but for there it is. I love Alaska.

When will you switch back to “adicktosmoker?”

Garth said:
And it is therefore and but for there it is. I love Alaska.

Rabies Garth……..You have rabies!! Makes your mindless. You need to hit your Esc button and hide! The dog catcher is on there way!

I hope Obama kills a shit load of muzzies so the “progressives” can cheer!

Garth said:
stuffed up your ass.

Is this where you’d like 0bama? Mmmm, mmmm, good.

At least Obama is honest about this engagement. None of this “rape rooms” or WMD nonsense.

I’m not sure about the name though….”Odyssey Dawn” sounds like a brand of douche.

BFD said:
At least Obama is honest about this engagement. None of this “rape rooms” or WMD nonsense. I’m not sure about the name though….”Odyssey Dawn” sounds like a brand of douche.

lol, now war is okay, unreal

Will he be returning his Nobel peace prize anytime soon?

Garth says:
BFD says:

Make one idiotic comment, switch names and make another idiotic comment! Brilliant!

ndanielson said:
Will he be returning his Nobel peace prize anytime soon?

Shit, they’ll probably give that loser another one!

Lover said:
Garth says:
BFD says:

Make one idiotic comment, switch names and make another idiotic comment! Brilliant!

You just proved yourself a liar who posts with no regard for evidence of fact. I knew that but it’s nice to have concrete evidence. Thnx.

I am always and shall always only be…..BFD.

I don’t play those childish games you assholes do.

In this thread all the teabloggers who were mad Obama was dragging his feet on Libya will now be mad cuz he took action. lol

BFD said:
You just proved yourself a liar who posts with no regard for evidence of fact. I knew that but it’s nice to have concrete evidence. Thnx.

I am always and shall always only be…..BFD.

I don’t play those childish games you assholes do.

You calling garth and drugadickto assholes? LOL!

BFD said:
In this thread all the teabloggers who were mad Obama was dragging his feet on Libya will now be mad cuz he took action. lol

What?

USS BARRY!!! yes BARRY! launches Tomahawk missiles.
There’s a joke in there ,I just havent thought of one yet.

BFD said:

I am always and shall always only be…..BFD.

I think you’re the genuine deal. Who else could be so stupid?

BFD said:
In this thread all the teabloggers who were mad Obama was dragging his feet on Libya will now be mad cuz he took action. lol

and libs bitch about the other wars, but think this is ok because of obama, see how it works

BFD said:
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nutsofast said:
or President Donald Trump
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Obama’s bud Farrakhan upset with him .

Louis Farrakhan with radio host Cliff Kelley on WVON-AM 1690 Chicago

FARRAKHAN: “I warn my brother do you let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world…Why don’t you organize a group of respected Americans and ask for a meeting with Qaddafi, you can’t order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are? ”

http://www.hapblog.com/2011/03/who-hell-do-you-think-your-are.html

Yeah, people criticize Obama for war-mongering here, but just wait till they find weapons of mass destruction in Libya….

Of course the ever effective, Barry 0bama, has already given away half of his war plan. He’s said he won’t be bombing long, and he won’t put boots on the ground. He’s just probably bombing schools and hospitals to make America look bad, anyway.

cjd ohio 1 said:
and libs bitch about the other wars, but think this is ok because of obama, see how it works

Progressive hypocrisy is on FULL display. Check any thread.

It’ll be fun to watch the teabaggers heads explode Obama’s poll numbers go up next week.

catfishjuggling said:
Well it could easily be argued that this one is on Reagan. He is the one who didn’t take the guy out when he had the chance.

.
You mean the vilified by the left Reagan for doing it ?

Personally, I think it is high time that France go first and Italy supplies air bases to at long last try to ameliorate their shameful and cowardly part in Reagan’s attack by refusing the US planes their air space and use of air bases.

“For the Libyan raid, the United States was denied overflight rights by France, Spain and Italy as well as the use of European continental bases, forcing the Air Force portion of the operation to be flown around France, Spain and through the Straits of Gibraltar, adding 1,300 miles (2,100 km) each way and requiring multiple aerial refuelings..”

BFD said:
It’ll be fun to watch the teabaggers heads explode Obama’s poll numbers go up next week.

More progressive hypocrisy…

Big Eddie said:
Obama’s bud Farrakhan upset with him .

Louis Farrakhan with radio host Cliff Kelley on WVON-AM 1690 Chicago

FARRAKHAN: “I warn my brother do you let these wicked demons move you in a direction that will absolutely ruin your future with your people in Africa and throughout the world…Why don’t you organize a group of respected Americans and ask for a meeting with Qaddafi, you can’t order him to step down and get out, who the hell do you think you are? ”

http://www.hapblog.com/2011/03/who-hell-do-you-think-your-are.html

Now for something completely different
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0WOIwlXE9g

Lover said:
BFD said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

DON”T DO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Don’t we have already have enough pinheads doing it without your joining in.

BFD said:
It’ll be fun to watch the teabaggers heads explode Obama’s poll numbers go up next week.

kill some people and watch your poll numbers go up, you libs play that game wow

Grammie said:
Personally, I think it is high time that France go first

France did go first, with both the resolution and the first shot.

Obama is a Chicken-hawk.

cjd ohio 1 said:
kill some people and watch your poll numbers go up, you libs play that game wow

No wonder the “progressives” are a minority in America and America went red last election.

BFD said:
France did go first, with both the resolution and the first shot.

Funny how “progressives” like big fuggin dope have no problem and are actually cheering more civilian deaths.

Darwin have mercy! It would seem my factual and unapologetic analysis of the situation set a fuse under the arse of some of these far-right Conservative chaps.Someone even called me a Rush Limbaugh(drug addict). LOL!!!

Shayne01 19 minutes ago in reply to Zaid Jilani
FLAGGING IS NOT WORKING.

Little crybaby “progressive.” ;)

More Liberty5 said:
Obama is a Chicken-hawk.

Thats all you got today?

ScienceAddicto said:
Darwin have mercy! It would seem my factual and unapologetic analysis of the situation set a fuse under the arse of some of these far-right Conservative chaps.Someone even called me a Rush Limbaugh(drug addict). LOL!!!

Come to my house and I’ll say it to your face, coward.

right-is-wrong said:
Thats all you got today?

He didn’t serve, he started another war. That makes him a chicken-hawk by your standards. Don’t like it? STFU!

Piece of advice: When your opponent does something you agree with and have been vocally asking for, be gracious and recognize that. Only attack your opponent when you disagree, otherwise you appear childish and petulant.

Lover said:
Come to my house and I’ll say it to your face, coward.

Lover said:
He didn’t serve, he started another war. That makes him a chicken-hawk by your standards. Don’t like it? STFU!

Not sounding very Loverish today. What gives? Why the anger? I thought we were all supposed to band together during a time of war. That’s what I learned from my good friend Mr. Hannity.

I wonder how many innocent people have died, today.

right-is-wrong said:
Obama is a Chicken-hawk.

Thats all you got today?

0bama is a chickensh!t. How’s that?

kvon said:
Piece of advice: When your opponent does something you agree with and have been vocally asking for, be gracious and recognize that. Only attack your opponent when you disagree, otherwise you appear childish and petulant.

I’ll play. Show me where I or anybody has “asked for” Obama to bomb Libya. You can’t and you KNOW it. You’re the third “person” that has made that idiotic comment, today.

ndanielson said:
0bama is a chickensh!t. How’s that?

Better. ;)

Lover said:
I’ll play. Show me where I or anybody has “asked for” Obama to bomb Libya. You can’t and you KNOW it. You’re the third “person” that has made that idiotic comment, today.

I know my comments have all been related to ridiculing the anti-american leftists on this site that were screaming “oh the humanity.”

We shouldn’t be there. Period.

BFD—Yes France did go in first.
Only because the BIGGEST!! BAD ASS!! on the block is standing behind them,just in case they take a shot to that glass jaw>

screwauger said:
I know my comments have all been related to ridiculing the anti-american leftists on this site that were screaming “oh the humanity.”

We shouldn’t be there. Period.

“kvon” know he’s just talking out his arse.

March 19th 2003 Iraq war starts
March 19th 2011 Libya war starts

Funny how the “progressives” aren’t screaming that “they didn’t attack us!”

Lover said:
Come to my house and I’ll say it to your face, coward.

Put away your sword o’ righteous internet warrior,you might hurt someone:)

Lover said:
Funny how the “progressives” aren’t screaming that “they didn’t attack us!”

Is the argument here that the situation in Libya is the same as Iraq?

ScienceAddicto said:
Put away your sword o’ righteous internet warrior,you might hurt someone:)

I can back my words. You? Not so much.

Lover said:
The anti-war nuts that were screaming bloody murder when Bush was president have suddenly become pro-war. Soooooo predictable.

WCinWI said:
No – This is horrible. We have no interest being in another war. First Obama was ineffective and had no stance on this and then he goes full-blown war (essentially in the works). What the heck are we doing in here at all?

From the US and NATO perspective, unmanned drones, missiles and fighter jets isn’t a war. Of course it may appear differently from the other side, but this action was duly authorized by the appropriate UN body after careful consideration and Presidents from both parties have been doing it for decades.

Lover said:
Funny how the “progressives” aren’t screaming that “they didn’t attack us!”

There busy trying to find some rational to blame it on Booosh

im_lovin_it said:
Is the argument here that the situation in Libya is the same as Iraq?

There is no argument. You’re a hypocrite and Obama is a chicken-hawk. Next.

or thier

or their even

Hey wait a minute……didn’t you just……..

Lover said:
I can back my words. You? Not so much.

???????

screwauger said:
There busy trying to find some rational to blame it on Booosh

One hypocrite earlier went so far as to blame Regan! LOL!

screwauger said:
or their even

They’re. ;)

Magister said:
From the US and NATO perspective, unmanned drones, missiles and fighter jets isn’t a war. Of course it may appear differently from the other side, but this action was duly authorized by the appropriate UN body after careful consideration and Presidents from both parties have been doing it for decades.

That’s the most intelligent spin I’ve seen all day!

The GOP is in standby mode right now; they’re not sure how to spin this yet. They’re waiting for the Frank Luntz memo to come out, so they can be able to dish out the latest talks points.

BFD said:
France did go first, with both the resolution and the first shot.

.
Really?

I’m in your debt b/c I had absolutely no idea before you mentioned it here, not.

Lover said:
I’ll play. Show me where I or anybody has “asked for” Obama to bomb Libya. You can’t and you KNOW it. You’re the third “person” that has made that idiotic comment, today.

Then for a rare moment you aren’t following the marching orders of Fox News.

Sorry twits,as the great Sherlock Holmes would say; “You’ve said a lot of nothing,Watson”.
My first factual and unapologetically correct analysis of this current situation remains untouched by ad-hominem attacks and palin-style analysis. “I’m amazed at how quickly and efficiently Obama has got his ducks in a row and organised a response that doesn’t make America look like the Islamobashing bully-boy that his predecessor did.I’m sure the Republican’ts know this at heart and are insanely jealous of the man’s unflappable, intelligent and effective approach.” On march!

@Lover: “America’s Navy – A Global Force for Good“

MARCH 19, 2003
BUSH: ‘American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger…

MARCH 19, 2011
OBAMA: ‘Today we are part of a broad coalition. We are answering the calls of a threatened people. And we are acting in the interests of the United States and the world’…

Just another Neo-Con, how’s your Halliburton Stock Barry?

Kill ‘em all, Barry! Let God sort ‘em out.

catfishjuggling said:
Not exactly the same thing. The Bush daughters were old enough to serve.

Sooooooo, your saying that if Obama’s daughters were of age the leftists that were saying that about Bush would be saying the same thing about Obama’s daughters? Please tell me that that is not what you are trying to convince me.

Lover said:
The anti-war nuts that were screaming bloody murder when Bush was president have suddenly become pro-war. Soooooo predictable.

What war?

Lover said:
# Officials cite progress at most critical Japanese reactor# Japan ‘miracle’ survivor story too good to be true# Innocence Project professor pulled from university class# Two Mich. Dems charged in fake tea-party candidate scandal# Three U.S. states looking to reduce taxes on cigarettes# Berlin zoo says beloved polar bear Knut has died Yahoo “news” Not a peep about Obama attacking a country that poses absolutely no threat to us or anyone.

Really?
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Lover said:
# Officials cite progress at most critical Japanese reactor# Japan ‘miracle’ survivor story too good to be true# Innocence Project professor pulled from university class# Two Mich. Dems charged in fake tea-party candidate scandal# Three U.S. states looking to reduce taxes on cigarettes# Berlin zoo says beloved polar bear Knut has died Yahoo “news” Not a peep about Obama attacking a country that poses absolutely no threat to us or anyone.

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Lover said:
# Officials cite progress at most critical Japanese reactor# Japan ‘miracle’ survivor story too good to be true# Innocence Project professor pulled from university class# Two Mich. Dems charged in fake tea-party candidate scandal# Three U.S. states looking to reduce taxes on cigarettes# Berlin zoo says beloved polar bear Knut has died Yahoo “news” Not a peep about Obama attacking a country that poses absolutely no threat to us or anyone.

Care to try again?
http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/112082/gaddafi-attacks-his-own-people-with-warplanes.html

ScienceAddicto said:
Sorry twits,as the great Sherlock Holmes would say; “You’ve said a lot of nothing,Watson”.
My first factual and unapologetically correct analysis of this current situation remains untouched by ad-hominem attacks and palin-style analysis. “I’m amazed at how quickly and efficiently Obama has got his ducks in a row and organised a response that doesn’t make America look like the Islamobashing bully-boy that his predecessor did.I’m sure the Republican’ts know this at heart and are insanely jealous of the man’s unflappable, intelligent and effective approach.” On march!

I think we have found Robert Gibbs. With a fresh set of kneepads.

ndanielson said:
I think we have found Robert Gibbs. With a fresh set of kneepads.

By that you mean he has been staying at your place with a fresh set of kneepads? You should start charging him rent! Unless, that’s worked out in your “agreement.”

Magister said:
From the US and NATO perspective, unmanned drones, missiles and fighter jets isn’t a war. Of course it may appear differently from the other side, but this action was duly authorized by the appropriate UN body after careful consideration and Presidents from both parties have been doing it for decades.
—————————
U.S. and British ships and submarines launched the first phase of a missile assault on Libyan air defenses.

Magister?
—————-

“kvon” thanks for proving you lied.

ScienceAddicto said:

RRK, you’re simply pathetic kow matter what name you use.

President Obama in 2007 said;

“The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

This guy is a complete douche.

Btw, I am against the Iraq war and think we need to get the f out of Aghanistan, let alone start a 3rd completely unconstitutional war without a declaration.

btimsah said:
President Obama in 2007 said;

“The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

This guy is a complete douche.

That’s how uninformed the people that voted for him are. Most of them voted based on skin color, alone.The rest are just sheep, cultists so to speak.

hey what happened to all the weepers and fainters? Remember them?

This all just more proof that Bush and Obama are the same. These two parties have robbed us blind. We need to adopt a non-interventionist foreign policy. As a libertarian I laugh at the mice that follow these two parties. You swallow their lies hook line and sinker.

Lover said:
Funny how the “progressives” aren’t screaming that “they didn’t attack us!”

It was just a few weeks ago when righty tighies were claiming Obama was siding with Libya’s nut job, as if they were pals…he’s not doing anything, blah, blah…wah wah boo hoo.

Now he does something and this is what you come back with? Right nuts are never satisfied.

More Liberty5 said:
This all just more proof that Bush and Obama are the same. These two parties have robbed us blind. We need to adopt a non-interventionist foreign policy. As a libertarian I laugh at the mice that follow these two parties. You swallow their lies hook line and sinker.

couldn’t agree more.

Let me correct the author of the article:

“:American and European forces” should read:

“European and American forces”

It is much more valid this way….they were in the lead, we followed. That is the Obama doctrine,” I follow the leader, cuz I ain’t one”

It took Obama three weeks but he finally did the right thing. It may be too late but we will see. If the Col. holds on, Obama will look like a fool but if he gets killed or leaves Obama may become a hero.

We will also soon see how his loony anti-war nuts “attack” him?

TfT said:
Let me correct the author of the article:

“:American and European forces” should read:

“European and American forces”

It is much more valid this way….they were in the lead, we followed. That is the Obama doctrine,” I follow the leader, cuz I ain’t one”

Or, perhaps that’s because Libya is more in their interest than ours, that’s why they led and we didn’t. But now the United States has just declared war on Libya with absolutely no declaration of war from the Congress and absolutely no imminent threat.

I HEREBY SUPPORT ANY CONGRESSMAN WHO WILL DRAW UP THE PAPERS TO IMPEACH THIS DISHONEST, LYING AND CONTRADICTORY PRESIDENT. Anti-war, my ass.

Lover said:
They’re. ;)

thanks, brain cramp X 100 :)

RowdyHoward said:
It was just a few weeks ago when righty tighies were claiming Obama was siding with Libya’s nut job, as if they were pals…he’s not doing anything, blah, blah…wah wah boo hoo.

Now he does something and this is what you come back with? Right nuts are never satisfied.

ok, what’s his plan for removing the tyrant? Hmmm? Crickets from Obowmao.

gordonbloyershow said:
It took Obama three weeks but he finally did the right thing. It may be too late but we will see. If the Col. holds on, Obama will look like a fool but if he gets killed or leaves Obama may become a hero.

We will also soon see how his loony anti-war nuts “attack” him?

Wow, as much as I disagree with you on most things. I admire the fact that you can accept that Obama did the right thing.

High five Gordon! May we butt heads like gentlemen on another subject in the near future!

“Qaddafi said: ‘The interests of the involved countries will be subjected to threats as of now in the Mediterranean Sea because of this aggressive, foolish act that’s completely unjustifiable, other than it is a mere crusader colonial aggression that aims to launch a second wide ranging crusader campaign.’”

Well, I guess gitmo is no longer the number one terrorist recruiting tool. Thanks Obowmao!

gordonbloyershow said:
It took Obama three weeks but he finally did the right thing. It may be too late but we will see. If the Col. holds on, Obama will look like a fool but if he gets killed or leaves Obama may become a hero.

We will also soon see how his loony anti-war nuts “attack” him?

Wow, as much as I disagree with you on most things. I admire the fact that you can accept that Obama did the right thing.

High five Gordon! May we butt heads like gentlemen on another subject in the near future!

Obowmao say’s you’re welcome, I will do anything I can do to further bankrupt America!

gordonbloyershow said:
It took Obama three weeks but he finally did the right thing.

WOW
Cool

screwauger said:
ok, what’s his plan for removing the tyrant? Hmmm? Crickets from Obowmao.

Probably doesn’t have one you’d agree with…or me for that matter

Bleeding Libs hate war. Just to remind them that ‘Their’ Obamo has now started two ‘necessary’ wars…one in Afghanistan and one in Libya. Oh, wait. The Libya war is a noose around Hillary’s neck, I guess. Either way, the war-haters now have two wars to their credit. LOL @ them.

screwauger said:
Thanks Obowmao!

Oh and it is spelled O-b-a-m-a. But it’s cute how you inserted the bow in front of the Mao..like chairman Mao from..China and he’s communist and you bow…..zzzzzzzzzzz.

Be more pissed that he bent over to the banks and wiped their ass not that he’s a Commi-Muslim-Kenyan who hates America…then you just sound like the rest of the nut bars on the right.

Gaddafi letter to Obama:

To Obama, he wrote: “If Libya and the US enter into a war you will always remain my son, and I have love for you.”

awe, how sweet.

(h/t: the corner)

jim bronson 990cc said:

As in Then Came Bronson?

It’s just fucking stupid we’re getting involved with another countries civil war. I don’t care which side of the aisle you sit on it’s fucking stupid. We have men and women dying in Iraq and Afgahnistan not to mention the financial toll it’s taken, and then we go and do this. I saw a high ranking French official on TV today something to the effect that their planes were bombing targets and with the financial backing of the United states they will continue to. again Fucking Stupid.

Lover said:
I would say how amazed at the level of your blind partisan hypocrisy I am, but, I won’t. Could you please tell me when Libya attacked us? Thanks, in advance.

“Pan Am Flight 103 was Pan American World Airways’ third daily scheduled transatlantic flight from London Heathrow Airport to New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport. On Wednesday 21 December 1988, the aircraft flying this route—a Boeing 747–121 named Clipper Maid of the Seas—was destroyed by a bomb, killing all 243 passengers and 16 crew members.[1] Eleven people in Lockerbie, in southern Scotland, were also killed as large sections of the plane fell in the town and destroyed several houses, bringing total fatalities to 270. As a result, the news media has named the event the Lockerbie bombing….”

189 US Citizens were murdered, including:
* Captain James Bruce MacQuarrie (55, 10.910 flight hours, US citizen)
* First Officer Raymond Ronald Wagner (52, 11.855 flight hours, US citizen)
* Flight Engineer Jerry Don Avritt (46, 8068 flight hours, US citizen)
* Purser Milutin Velimirovich (35, 10 years seniority, US citizen
* Flight Attendant Elisabeth Nichole Avoyne-Clemens (44, 20 years seniority, French citizen)
* Flight Attendant Noelle Lydie Campbell-Berti (41, 18 years seniority, US/French citizen
* Flight Attendant Irja Syhnove Skabo (38, 16 years seniority, US/Norwegian citizen)
* Flight Attendant Paul Isaac Garrett (41, 15 years seniority, US citizen)
* Flight Attendant Lilibeth Tobila Macalolooy (27, 3 years seniority, US citizen)
* Flight Attendant Jocelyn Reina (26, 11 months seniority, US citizen)
* Flight Attendant Myra Josephine Royal (30, 9 months seniority, US citizen)
* Flight Attendant Stacie Denise Franklin (20, 8 months seniority, US citizen)”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103

“In March 1981, the US Sixth Fleet provocatively sailed into the Gulf but Libya refrained from responding. In August that year, however, the US fleet returned and shot down two Libyan warplanes which had been monitoring the vessels. ….
…Two months later,[1985] the Sixth Fleet sailed back into the Gulf of Sirte and attacked Libyan patrol boats and onshore anti-aircraft missile sites deemed a threat to the US forces.

The La Belle disco bombing in Berlin, in which two US servicemen died, was Libya’s response.

In turn, the US killed 60 people in major bombing raids against Tripoli and Benghazi, using aircraft based in the UK. The targets included Colonel Gaddafi’s residence in Tripoli. ”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1654516.stm

Need some more info on Libya, Lover?

–Cobra

ChrisNH said:
Bleeding Libs hate war. Just to remind them that ‘Their’ Obamo has now started two ‘necessary’ wars…one in Afghanistan and one in Libya. Oh, wait. The Libya war is a noose around Hillary’s neck, I guess. Either way, the war-haters now have two wars to their credit. LOL @ them.

Yes, Congressman Barack Obama started the war in Afghanistan in 2002.

Do you know how absolutely stupid you sound right now?

–Cobra

As an American, I’m happy we’re assisting them, it’s not right to watch people slaughtered and do nothing.. that said, I’m also happy we’re not sending ground troops we don’t need a new war…

Although, who the hell knows who’s going to take charge there when Gadaffi is killed.

RowdyHoward said:
Wow, as much as I disagree with you on most things. I admire the fact that you can accept that Obama did the right thing. High five Gordon! May we butt heads like gentlemen on another subject in the near future!

I always back our president when they take military action.

gordonbloyershow said:
As an American, I’m happy we’re assisting them, it’s not right to watch people slaughtered and do nothing.. that said, I’m also happy we’re not sending ground troops we don’t need a new war…

Thats absolutely Awesome!!!

gordonbloyershow said:
I always back our president when they take military action.

OOPS
this one

Not everyone is happy with BHO’s decision…..

“Farrakhan Warns Obama on Libya: ‘Who the Hell Do You Think You Are?”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/farrakhan-warns-obama-on-libya-who-the-hell-do-you-think-your-are/

Snowspot said:
Although, who the hell knows who’s going to take charge there when Gadaffi is killed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12699183

Snowspot said:
it’s not right to watch people slaughtered and do nothing.. that said, I’m also happy we’re not sending ground troops we don’t need a new war…

An air war will only stop Airplanes, Command and Control Sites but it cannot stop a ground assault.

That takes “boots on the ground”

So all you “B. Hussein Obama lovin Libbies”, I expect you to be down at your local recruiters office to join his army so you can go kill some bad guys.

Sarah Palin, three weeks ago:

It’s a little perplexing looking at the White House today. There was a statement on the horrible earthquake in New Zealand, and certainly our hearts go out to all those affected by this horrible natural disaster. But nothing on the slaughter in Libya? The protests in many places in the Middle East affect regimes that have cooperated with the U.S. on issues from peace with Israel, fighting al Qaeda, hosting our military forces, or cooperating against Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Gaddafi’s Libya is different. For four decades, this tyrant has held power. Gaddafi was Osama before Osama hit the scene. He ordered the bombing of a disco in Germany to kill Americans. When he paid the price for that – after President Reagan rightly ordered retaliation – he directed his agents to blow up Pan Am Flight 103. They did, and more than 250 innocent people died. Gaddafi tried to come in from the cold in 2003 – scared by the demonstration effect of Iraq. But we should have no illusions. Gaddafi is a brutal killer and Libya – not to mention the world – would be better off if he were out of power. Now is the time to speak out. Speak out for the long-suffering Libyan people. Speak out for the victims of Gaddafi’s terror. NATO and our allies should look at establishing a no-fly zone so Libyan air forces cannot continue slaughtering the Libyan people. We should not be afraid of freedom, especially when it comes to people suffering under a brutal enemy of America. Here’s to freedom from Gaddafi for the people of Libya.

- Sarah Palin

Then’s there’s HuffPo on the subject.

BatBoy said:
So all you “B. Hussein Obama lovin Libbies”, I expect you to be down at your local recruiters office to join his army so you can go kill some bad guys.

BatBoy, you wanna lay odds on the “days, not weeks” claim? We should be able to scare up some action here if we can find anyone that has any money.

Snowspot said:
As an American, I’m happy we’re assisting them, it’s not right to watch people slaughtered and do nothing..

So, you liked Iraq, then?

BatBoy said:
An air war will only stop Airplanes, Command and Control Sites but it cannot stop a ground assault.

That takes “boots on the ground”

So all you “B. Hussein Obama lovin Libbies”, I expect you to be down at your local recruiters office to join his army so you can go kill some bad guys.

Why do you think only American boots have to be on the ground? The French have more at stake in Libya than we ever did.

–Cobra

You guys are all morons. We have no buisness fighting these wars.we can’t be the world police.

BatBoy—Actually you can stop a ground assaul or offensive by air,there are many examples from WW2 to present.You need boot’s on the ground to take, secure and hold ground.

Just finished rereading the book’s,Fighters of the Mighty Eighth 1942-1945 and The Blond Knight of Germany.(Erich Hartmann).

More Liberty5 said:
You guys are all morons. We have no buisness fighting these wars.we can’t be the world police.

Which is why you should be heartened the European nations are in the lead in this operation.

It ought to have been done two weeks ago If it was to be done at all, before the rebels lost so much men and territory, but here we are.

We’re just leveling the playing field. There are no plans to put “boots on the ground”.

Paleoconservatarian said:
Which is why you should be heartened the European nations are in the lead in this operation.

It ought to have been done two weeks ago If it was to be done at all, before the rebels lost so much men and territory, but here we are.

I’m not all that thrilled about ANY party in Libya. The Rebels have Muslim Brotherhood ties and worse. There aren’t any “good guys”, save the civilians being needlessly killed by Gaddafi. But I’m glad the Administration at least took the time to make this a coalition, multilateral effort with Arab nation backing.

–Cobra

Magister said:
We’re just leveling the playing field. There are no plans to put “boots on the ground”.

Magister, I used to respect your opinion. Not any more.

I never thought I would ever see the day the “progressives” would be so pro-war and pro-civilian death. All because of a half black president. Simply unbelievable. Historians are doing head scratches, I’m sure.

I wonder if far left obscure blogs like “the zoo” will be keeping tallies on troop casualties like they did when Bush was President. I highly doubt it.

For a guy who claims to hate war ‘ol BO sure is picking a lot of fights. Why won’t he end the war in Iraq like he swore he would? Why won’t he end the war in Afganistan like he swore he would? Why is he starting a third war like he swore he wouldn’t? This clown says one thing and does another. No one can trust this guy anymore, if they ever could.

Lover said:
All because of a half black president.

OH!!! I’ll hold back, because RWers don’t like you calling them racists.

Dem4Ever said:
For a guy who claims to hate war ‘ol BO sure is picking a lot of fights. Why won’t he end the war in Iraq like he swore he would?

Hey dumbass, they’ve already have taken all combat troops out of Iraq or didn’t Fox tell you that.

Dem4Ever said:
Why won’t he end the war in Afganistan like he swore he would?

Yeah, he can just end a war overnight that was started in 2001.

@Lover: If the mission changes, then I may need to reevaluate, but as I discussed in a thread on the 17th, I’ve considered establishing a no-fly zone to be an option since the Libya crisis first arose and I’m not going to get into a big back and forth, but I’ve been fairly consistent in my attitude toward military intervention throughout my adult life.

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Heh, The Saviour of Code Pink and the anti-war movement is blowing brown people out of the sky, my oh my. Square that circle boys and girls. Funny how that apology tour and “open dialogue” didn’t exactly take ahold.

the real john t said:
Hey dumbass, they’ve already have taken all combat troops out of Iraq or didn’t Fox tell you that. Yeah, he can just end a war overnight that was started in 2001.

There are 45,000 American troops in Iraq and they ain’t carrying water guns and they ain’t staying in hotels.

“”We’re not going to baby sit a civil war.”
Barack Obama quote spoken on NBC’s Today Show on January 11, 2007″

The Chicago Jesus never realized the actual job was a whole lot harder than campaigning.

the real john t said:
Yeah, he can just end a war overnight that was started in 2001.

No, he’s ending the war by adhering exactly to the Bush negotiated Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq. yep, he’s following the Bush Doctrine to the letter in Iraq. Because, CHANGE!

timzank said:
Heh, The Saviour of Code Pink and the anti-war movement is blowing brown people out of the sky, my oh my. Square that circle boys and girls. Funny how that apology tour and “open dialogue” didn’t exactly take ahold.

Hey, don’t you remember awhile back the loons here was saying how stupid Palin was because she called for a No-fly zone? LOL. Now Obama is following the Palin Plan.

Lover said:
ScienceAddicto said: RRK, you’re simply pathetic kow matter what name you use.

Ever read your own posts?

timzank said:
There are 45,000 American troops in Iraq and they ain’t carrying water guns and they ain’t staying in hotels.

“”We’re not going to baby sit a civil war.”
Barack Obama quote spoken on NBC’s Today Show on January 11, 2007″

The Chicago Jesus never realized the actual job was a whole lot harder than campaigning.

That’s correct. Sadly, I think over the past several decades we’ve had a bad foreign policy based on our economic interests and our military interests. Now we’re in a situation where we must defend the 2nd largest oil reserve in the world to prevent an even worse economic crisis. Something we spent decades getting into won’t be resolved in a few years, or at all, if our priorities don’t change.

“The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation.”

Quote from (Senator) Barack Obama, Dec. 20, 2007.

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/specials/CandidateQA/ObamaQA/

SURPRISE SURPRISE!!

SKY News 3/20/11/

“The Arab league has criticised the military strikes on Libya,week after urging the UN to slap a no fly zone the Oil-rich north African state”.

Not only the Arab League have yet to commit any assets to the fight, at this time.

The Arab League–Duplicitous,Backstabbing,Parasites.

Don’t like the way we are fighting the war ,then fight it your self’s!!

CosmosDan said:
Something we spent decades getting into won’t be resolved in a few years, or at all, if our priorities don’t change.

So having a Prez that basically votes “present” 3 weeks after every crisis he’s encountered ain’t gonna get the job done, eh? Well golllllly….there’s a revelation.

the real john t said:
Yeah, he can just end a war overnight that was started in 2001.

He can’t end it overnight, but overnight he could begin the withdrawal of our troops.

As for Libya, let me try to get this straight- we are now trying to help take down a ruler, the same one we propped up for many years, without any clue of who will be running the country once we take him down? We don’t have a very good track record when it comes to foresight in the Middle East, so why don’t we just keep our noses out of it? It’s not like we have a ton of money to spend on world policing.

To anyone who has ever wondered why the American Right Wing is called soul-less, I present to you this thread. They just like hating Obama, for no rhyme or reason, they just enjoy the act of hating.

This is why the voters turned their backs on you so quick after the last election my friends. You’re senseless and full of hate.

timzank said:
So having a Prez that basically votes “present” 3 weeks after every crisis he’s encountered ain’t gonna get the job done, eh? Well golllllly….there’s a revelation.

And neither is partisan sniping and 2nd guessing at every opportunity.

LarryB said:
He can’t end it overnight, but overnight he could begin the withdrawal of our troops.

As for Libya, let me try to get this straight- we are now trying to help take down a ruler, the same one we propped up for many years, without any clue of who will be running the country once we take him down? We don’t have a very good track record when it comes to foresight in the Middle East, so why don’t we just keep our noses out of it? It’s not like we have a ton of money to spend on world policing.

I tend to agree. Although, every partisan hack was eager to condemn Obama for standing by while this dictator bombed his own people, it’s not our fight or our responsibility to resolve internal issues in other sovereign nations.

It should be the responsibility of the UN security council to be involved enough to help prevent the needless killing of civilians. I don’t believe we should be committed to or heavily involved in removing Gadaffi. It’s not our role.

And if Gadaffi is ousted we’ll hear how radical Muslims are taking control and that’s Obama’s fault as well because we as a nation are in charge of whatever happens in the world.

Paleoconservatarian said:
It ought to have been done two weeks ago If it was to be done at all, before the rebels lost so much men and territory, but here we are.

.

the real john t said:
Yeah, he can just end a war overnight that was started in 2001.

.
Don’t look now, little johnny t, but the Iraq War started almost to the day in 2003, not 2001.

What’s the matter, MSNBC and News Hounds didn’t tell you that?

LarryB said:
As for Libya, let me try to get this straight- we are now trying to help take down a ruler, the same one we propped up for many years, without any clue of who will be running the country once we take him down? We don’t have a very good track record when it comes to foresight in the Middle East, so why don’t we just keep our noses out of it? It’s not like we have a ton of money to spend on world policing.

.
WE PROPPED UP GADAFY?????????????????????????

I am very interested to see what you consider to be proof for that Ministry of Truth double plus ungood tripe.

CosmosDan said:
It should be the responsibility of the UN security council to be involved enough to help prevent the needless killing of civilians. I don’t believe we should be committed to or heavily involved in removing Gadaffi. It’s not our role.

.
I agree with that with the caveat that it is the proper role of the strongest democratic government in the world to always be in the lead making every effort to shape events rather than merely reacting to them.

With strong US leadership don’t you agree that the point we finally reached, aerial intervention in Libya, would have been far more effective in both saving innocent lives and leaving the way open for a regime change.

The big difference between regime change in Egypt vs Libya is that Egypt has a strong Islamic Jihadist faction in place with the Muslim Brotherhood (latest election results give them a bigger leg up) and Libya has no coherent faction waiting in the wings. Egypt’s prior regime was pro America/Israeli peace while the current Libyan regime is virulently anti American and a known terrorist state.

Lover said:
I never thought I would ever see the day the “progressives” would be so pro-war and pro-civilian death. All because of a half black president. Simply unbelievable. Historians are doing head scratches, I’m sure.

I don’t think it’s that progressives are pro-war, I think it’s that they can’t wait to watch you Conservatards do backflips and try to find your spin on why it isn’t ok to do this. Because you hate the Pres. But you already have your little angle: “he WAITED too LONG!! Waaaaahhhhhh!” Umm, Bush Sr asked the Iraqis to rise up against Hussein, and then bolted on them. Losing, duh!

screwauger said:
ok, what’s his plan for removing the tyrant? Hmmm? Crickets from Obowmao.

ChrisNH said:
Bleeding Libs hate war. Just to remind them that ‘Their’ Obamo has now started two ‘necessary’ wars…one in Afghanistan and one in Libya. Oh, wait. The Libya war is a noose around Hillary’s neck, I guess. Either way, the war-haters now have two wars to their credit. LOL @ them.

Afghanistan was Bush’s, duh. Obama cleaning up his little messy pants.

Support the troops, losers!

Grammie said:
WE PROPPED UP GADAFY?????????????????????????

I am very interested to see what you consider to be proof for that Ministry of Truth double plus ungood tripe.

You were right to call me on that one. ‘Propped up’ was a poor choice of terms. Maybe I should have gone with “treated him with far more respect than he ever deserved.” After he proclaimed about 8 years ago that Libya was no longer planning to build weapons of mass destruction, our government seemed willing to wipe his history clean. Not only did we drop sanctions, but we even removed Libya from our ‘sponsors of terrorism’ list!
Condoleezza Rice kissed up to him a couple years ago, then Obama did the same recently. That said, I stand by the rest of my statement.

Obama is starting a war? And without an exit strategy? Boy, has he changed…

LarryB said:
You were right to call me on that one. ‘Propped up’ was a poor choice of terms. Maybe I should have gone with “treated him with far more respect than he ever deserved.” After he proclaimed about 8 years ago that Libya was no longer planning to build weapons of mass destruction, our government seemed willing to wipe his history clean. Not only did we drop sanctions, but we even removed Libya from our ’sponsors of terrorism’ list!
Condoleezza Rice kissed up to him a couple years ago, then Obama did the same recently. That said, I stand by the rest of my statement.

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I can go along with that even though I have a somewhat different take on it than you do.

Don’t forget in return for that recognition it does appear that he gave up his nukes/nuke ambitions. That can always be iffy (see N Korea) but with the absence of any reporting about possible Libyan nukes it may be substantially true. I think it was worth the little we gave him to not have a Nuclear Gadafi right now.

As for the rest see my response just above to Dan.

Helter skelter regime change in the rest of the ME causes me the greatest concern in those regimes that are more aligned with the West.and any change will likely be to another Islamic Jihadist Theocracy a la Iran.

Selfish? Absolutely!

However, as far as the suffering of their populations the ME countries all have downtrodden populations and given a choice I’d prefer that their inevitable suffering at least be of some benefit to the rest of the world. It benefits no one, even their own populations, for Ilamic Jihadist regimes to blossom and spread.

In response to the idiot right wing trolls who said that no conservative voices have attacked Obama for his inaction in Libya:

Grammie says:
March 18, 2011 at 8:17 pm
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Does anyone remember all the criticism directed GHWB’s way in the lead up to Gulf War One for going fishing one time?

That was in spite of GWHB being very publicly active in building the coalition and leading the UN to his eventually shortly thereafter successful widely supported world wide liberation of Kuwait.

The point this time is that BHO has not put himself on the line re this Libya crisis and has done what is normal for him, react after the decision making and heavy lifting is over.

His golf game is just one in a long line of such events that are still ongoing. We have not seen or heard BHO being proactive about any of what has been going on in the ME for months.

The criticism is based on what he has failed to do and what we see all too often of his very active social life seeming to be a priority.

He earned this criticism big time, IMO.

Here’s another conservative example of Obama as Nero:

Harry Flashman says:
March 18, 2011 at 1:41 pm (Quote)
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It’s not the golf.

It’s the fact that the image he porteys to the world is of a casual and disconnceted president dressed in shorts and swinging a golf club while history is pivoting in a burning Middle East, our staunch ally Japan is in agony, and unions are working to overcome the rule of law in a country he has sworn to defend.

He doesn’t get it. This ain’t the time to be photoed hitting the links, Barry. Doesn’t exactly instill the same confidence in people as being pictured behind the desk in the Oval Office, does it?

Personally, based on Secretary Gate’s explanation that a no-fly zone would involve sending in troops, I am against starting another war. I understand the humanitarian reasons to stop Gaddafi from attacking his own people with tanks and missiles (and it’s not about oil, since the Saudis already promised to make up any loss in production from Libya). Now that the attack has begun, I hope for that best, which is a limited military action using our weapons to eliminate obvious humanitarian threats. If Obama is able to achieve the same political and military objectives that Clinton did in Bosnia, where we did not commit troops, I would go along with it. But, if there is another invasion, I would be against it as much as I was against the Iraq war.

On the other hand, conservatives have shown such cowardice and hypocrisy, it is sickening. You can’t attack Obama for not doing anything, then attack him for doing something. You can’t praise Bush Sr. for forming an international, UN-back coalition in Gulf War I, and then criticize Obama for going through the same thoughtful process to take out Gaddafi’s tanks and missiles. You can’t attack Obama for starting a military action and then also attack him because he has promised the American people that we will not commit ground troops to Libya.

Well, actually, you can, and you all already have. But it only makes you sound like a bunch of middle schoolers.

As Bill O said, you right wing trolls are not anti-Americans; just simply bad ones.

I can hardly wait to hear what Bill O says about Libya tonight :)

LarryB said:
You were right to call me on that one. ‘Propped up’ was a poor choice of terms. Maybe I should have gone with “treated him with far more respect than he ever deserved.” After he proclaimed about 8 years ago that Libya was no longer planning to build weapons of mass destruction, our government seemed willing to wipe his history clean. Not only did we drop sanctions, but we even removed Libya from our ’sponsors of terrorism’ list!
Condoleezza Rice kissed up to him a couple years ago, then Obama did the same recently. That said, I stand by the rest of my statement.

You don’t seem to have given much thought to the consequences of your criticisms. If the world were to establish a precedent to punish those leaders who actually comply with demands and give up their weapons of mass destruction, no rouge state would ever after seek to satisfy the will of the international community. What would be the point? The only alternative the world would be left with in every situation henceforth would be to issue demands and dictates backed with the force of arms.

Motivations to make deals must be real, and honest, or diplomacy fails.