“Weiner just kept saying he wished everyone could pay zero taxes, ”

lol
LIAR

You can climb down out of Rupert’s ass now, Sean.

O’Hannity is still stinging after Ms. Webber’s glorious take down.

“Thank God for Rupert Murdoch.”

I say that pretty much everyday in here

Atticus Draco said:
“Thank God for Rupert Murdoch.”

I say that pretty much everyday in here

You and every Saudi. Five times daily.

The Real Royal King said:
You and every Saudi. Five times daily.

I dont blame ‘em for doing so,,
i’m a true believer of Sun Tzu’s “The Art of War”

OF ALL THE NETWORK NEWS,, FOX IS THEIR BIGGEST THREAT!

Weiner is the almost human , highly obnoxious , more reptilian version of the Geico gekko . Apologies to all gekkos .

Sean Hannity & Atticus Draco said:
“Thank God for Rupert Murdoch.”

http://www.alternet.org/media/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/

I’m curious, did Weiner start blubbering like McConnell and Boehner did?

Weiner is trying to be the DemoCrit Party’s new Alan Grayson.

Weiner made a real clymer of himself = lying through his teeth claiming he doesn’t want anyone to pay any taxes. LOL,

BFD said:
I’m curious, did Weiner start blubbering like McConnell and Boehner did?

No, Wiener’s more a tantrum sort of boy.

TfT said:
Weiner made a real clymer of himself = lying through his teeth claiming he doesn’t want anyone to pay any taxes. LOL,

HONESTLY,,, WHO IS BELIEVING THAT CHIT?!!!
He’s whole life is centered around the goal of confiscating “millionaires and billionaires” cash and if he cant get those,, HE’LL GO AFTER THE LITTLE PEOPLES TOO!!!

WhoTF IS HE FOOLIN’?!!!!
TAX & SPEND MoFo!!!!

Hugo Daun said:
http://www.alternet.org/media/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/

An most excellent, authoritative and informative study. Thank you.

This interview was so frustrating to watch. Why is it that a lib will never answer when asked at what point have you taken enough? They refuse to answer, which I guess is an answer in itself. I’ve seen countless libs asked that question and not once have they answered. The lib motto is be careful not to tell people what you really think.

Shawn God would certainly NOT thank this devil in diguise.God helps all of his people he does not cherry pick the rich,ever.

Rock, pull your head out, he was thanking him as a job creator. You should be thankful for job creators too. I know I am. When I say my prayers, I thank him for my job every time and the man who provided it. You libs are just hard-wired to hate anyone who has more than you.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
This interview was so frustrating to watch. Why is it that a lib will never answer when asked at what point have you taken enough? They refuse to answer, which I guess is an answer in itself. I’ve seen countless libs asked that question and not once have they answered. The lib motto is be careful not to tell people what you really think.

And the rightist motto is what? “Never Think.”?

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Rock, pull your head out, he was thanking him as a job creator. You should be thankful for job creators too. I know I am. When I say my prayers, I thank him for my job every time and the man who provided it. You libs are just hard-wired to hate anyone who has more than you.

You’re full of more krap than the Christmas goose we’re about to eat. Virtually everyone who works for my company is of the moderate/centrist-to-liberal persuasion. Part of that is the intelligence required to work in an international business environment, the analytical skills, the languages. Part of that is the very nature of the community in which I reside and work. Tolerant. Vibrant. Open-minded. I have virtually no attrition. In other words, the employees seem to be most thankful for their jobs. Your myopic, limited world view and your heavy baggage of bias and prejudice compromises the value of any of the opinions you expel.

The Real Royal King said:
Virtually everyone who works for my company is of the moderate/centrist-to-liberal persuasion.

Why don’t you enlighten us, just exactly what is your company?

timzank said:
Why don’t you enlighten us, just exactly what is your company?

None of your business, Stalker.

Royal Pain in the Butt says:
Virtually everyone who works for my company is of the moderate/centrist-to-liberal persuasion.

Well given how miserable and angry you libs seem to be, I’ll the talk around the water cooler is fun.

Atticus Draco said:
“Thank God for Rupert Murdoch.”

I say that pretty much everyday in here

S

Hugo Daun said:
http://www.alternet.org/media/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/

Small minds think alike…..

The Real Royal King said:
And the rightist motto is what? “Never Think.”? You’re full of more krap than the Christmas goose we’re about to eat. Virtually everyone who works for my company is of the moderate/centrist-to-liberal persuasion. Part of that is the intelligence required to work in an international business environment, the analytical skills, the languages. Part of that is the very nature of the community in which I reside and work. Tolerant. Vibrant. Open-minded. I have virtually no attrition. In other words, the employees seem to be most thankful for their jobs. Your myopic, limited world view and your heavy baggage of bias and prejudice compromises the value of any of the opinions you expel.

You have a company ?… How successful can that be, consider you are on here 24/7 ?… And every single employee is moderate/centrist-to-liberal ?… What !! you ask them this before you hire them ?… Jesus, if you are going to make chit up, should’nt it be plausible ?…

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Rock, pull your head out, he was thanking him as a job creator. You should be thankful for job creators too. I know I am. When I say my prayers, I thank him for my job every time and the man who provided it. You libs are just hard-wired to hate anyone who has more than you.

Face it, greed is disgusting.

The Real Royal King said:
Part of that is the intelligence required to work in an international business environment, the analytical skills, the languages. Part of that is the very nature of the community in which I reside and work. Tolerant. Vibrant. Open-minded. I have virtually no attrition.

Certainly an organization like yours, open minded and tolerant as you mention, would jump at the chance to explain to the less intelligent among us what it is you do for a living that makes your “people” such staunch believers of liberal policy. Please tell us King. What do you do for a living?

Kermit says:

Face it, greed is disgusting.

You lost me, are you saying job creators are greedy?

King? Bueller? You there?

Seriously, if you and your employees honestly believe in the values and policies you so vociferously espouse, pray tell, what business is it? I’m sure you’re proud, so please, share with us!

To be honest, Weiner did a pretty good job here again. This is what I wish were on FOX more often, a liberal with actual convictions, not the typical cardboard cutouts that get blown over. Weiner’s argument is absolutely fair, and it seems that Sean is completely about reshaping the argument to help himself, which came out towards the end, between his use of words indicating this effects him, plus the Rupert remarks.

Clindharten, I couldn’t disagree more. Weiner refused to answer Sean’s question about what % of the income of the rich should the gov’t take. Sean’s comments about Murdoch were him as an employer. Why shouldn’t he be thankful for the man who give many people jobs? The fact that libs are twisting it just proves they hate those who have more than them. They are bitter.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Clindharten, I couldn’t disagree more. Weiner refused to answer Sean’s question about what % of the income of the rich should the gov’t take. Sean’s comments about Murdoch were him as an employer. Why shouldn’t he be thankful for the man who give many people jobs? The fact that libs are twisting it just proves they hate those who have more than them. They are bitter.

Weiner etal will never actually say how much is enough (to confiscate) because for them it simply will NEVER be enough. Tax rates don’t have any effect on Weiners’ personal lifestyle, he’s a government employee and is set for life. His per diem is more per year than most of his constituents annual salaries. Dp you think Weiner pumps his own gas? Buys his own milk? Cleans his own home? Buys his own airplane tickets? Pays for his own cab fare?

He lives in a bubble.

King, you gonna tell us what business you’re so successfull in?

clindhartsen said:
To be honest, Weiner did a pretty good job here again. This is what I wish were on FOX more often, a liberal with actual convictions, not the typical cardboard cutouts that get blown over. Weiner’s argument is absolutely fair, and it seems that Sean is completely about reshaping the argument to help himself, which came out towards the end, between his use of words indicating this effects him, plus the Rupert remarks.

Fact: How is it fair to take more of what’s not yours?

Fact: Wiener was that child in the store that balled hid sweat little head off until his parents folded in and cratered just to shut the kids embarrassing mouth! Not working with GOP adults this time try new tactic like quit spending! Someone voted for this ass!

Kermit said:
S Small minds think alike…..

Fact: Kermit doesn’t have a Weiner and Weiner is a Kermit!

BFD said:
I’m curious, did Weiner start blubbering like McConnell and Boehner did?

Is that all you got HairPlugs? Why don’t you dazzle us with your reasoning why folks in Dick’s….errr I mean Weiner’s district have to pay close to 60 cents of every dollar earned to some sort of taxation?

Surely a guys soooooo much smarter than One Trick Pony Hannity can provide a spectacular exhibit of mental prowess by regaling all of us with his cogent and erudite assessment of what one should pay in the way of taxes.

As a portion of earned income so we can compare your brilliance one to one with dumb ole Hannity.

Kermit said:
S Small minds think alike…..

But that’s no reason to clown on you and the real royal queen or hugo know nothing.

We pity your small minds and allow you to stay in spite of your shortcomings.

sticks said:
You have a company ?… How successful can that be, consider you are on here 24/7 ?… And every single employee is moderate/centrist-to-liberal ?… What !! you ask them this before you hire them ?… Jesus, if you are going to make chit up, should’nt it be plausible ?…

Why? Nothing they have made up for the last 100 years or so has been plausible. That’s why print and the MS media is nearly dead. They have been the agit-prop front guys for this crap and folks are finally saying enough.

But they can come to internet forums and run their yaps witht he best of them. Especially on subjects there is no way to verify.

Didn’t you know….every liberal on the internet:

Owns his own company or is wealthy enough not to have to work so they are screwing somebody out pay for fucking off here running that sore under their noses
Screws supermodels
Has read or seen or heard everything that is true so they can put truth to lies with regard to everything they haven’t
Knows and remembers EVERYTHING about politics and governance since the country’s inception
Really is the only caring person in most discussion……unless they are trying to one up another lib
Never does anything wrong…..or at least not until a conservative does it first so they can point and shriek

C’mon man.

Kermit said:
Face it, greed is disgusting.

Yet coveting is soooo much more appealing right?

Here’s a novel approach……why don’t you go get yourself some and stop envying those that have?

It really is an unsightly practice to spend every waking moment wishing you had more and wishing somebody else had less.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: How is it fair to take more of what’s not yours?

Government’s have done this sense the dawn of time, and the truth of the matter is, if government doesn’t provide a level of assistance, where does the burden then move to? Also, for those who were promised Social Security, Medicare, or other services of the same type, what are you going to tell them? Oh, sorry, there’s no money, promise done, go figure it out for yourself.

Past administrations and movements have built what we have today, and now we need to figure out how to pay for it. There’ll be entitlement reform, there’ll be tax hikes, and there’ll be a bit of pain all around.

Clind,
Then I will ask you the question that I’ve yet to hear an answer for. What % of income should the rich pay in taxes? Obviously 60% isn’t enough, is 70%, 80%, 90%? I want an actual # here, so don’t side-step the question. And if the gov’t is taking 70-90% of your income, how long will the “rich” continue to work hard to make that $ and provide jobs?

VOR…

LOL… You forgot about the villa in France ?… And how said supermodel is giving him the unsaid bj as he pontificates to all of his lowly subjects, about how smart and wonderful he really is !!!… Yeah liberals, they’re just so damn perfect !!!… Well, at least in their fantasy land on their pc…

King? We’re waiting.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Clind,Then I will ask you the question that I’ve yet to hear an answer for. What % of income should the rich pay in taxes? Obviously 60% isn’t enough, is 70%, 80%, 90%? I want an actual # here, so don’t side-step the question. And if the gov’t is taking 70-90% of your income, how long will the “rich” continue to work hard to make that $ and provide jobs?

If I had all the numbers in front of me, I’d give you an exact answer, but 60% is probably about accurate. If I had more numbers, and time to think about it, that could hike up towards 70% if required. Even at 70% though, a Million Dollars income is 300,000 dollars remaining, something which most of us could survive on.

We need reform, we need rethinking about all of this, and we need to shape taxes accordingly, but just screaming tax cuts for everyone isn’t going to work. Eventually we’ll be taxing nothing, or we’ll run ourself into deficits to the end of time.

So clind, answer my other question. Say you are one of these “rich” business owners and the gov’t is taking 70% of your income. How long would you continue to work your tail off before you decide it ain’t worth it? And I don’t care how much that 30% leaves you.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
So clind, answer my other question. Say you are one of these “rich” business owners and the gov’t is taking 70% of your income. How long would you continue to work your tail off before you decide it ain’t worth it? And I don’t care how much that 30% leaves you.

How many business owners do it purely for the cash, and how many do it as a passion and cash is a side effect? Do I go and become a store owner selling food and slowly hire employees because I’m looking to make millions, or because I wanted to make great food and sell it to others? Some will depart, certainly, but point one of a business is a service, point two is income, and if you start with income and hten form a business, how does that work?

The largest problem we have in the current economy is banks aren’t willing to lend money out to anyone, and that’s causing our current crisis, not any taxes-are-looming scenerio. How we force banks to borrow to business owners is a whole different problem.

Clind, it’s a shame you make it sound torrid that people want to make money. Isn’t that why so many people want to come to this country, partly? For that opportunity. Can’t they want to make money WHILE loving what they do? It’s a shame we’ve come to a point in this country that you are vilified for success. Sad indeed.

sticks said:
VOR… LOL… You forgot about the villa in France ?… And how said supermodel is giving him the unsaid bj as he pontificates to all of his lowly subjects, about how smart and wonderful he really is !!!… Yeah liberals, they’re just so damn perfect !!!… Well, at least in their fantasy land on their pc…

Amen! Legends in their own minds!

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Clind, it’s a shame you make it sound torrid that people want to make money. Isn’t that why so many people want to come to this country, partly? For that opportunity. Can’t they want to make money WHILE loving what they do? It’s a shame we’ve come to a point in this country that you are vilified for success. Sad indeed.

My only underlying point to all of this: How many of us have utilized unemployment? Medicade? Food Stamps? Have family who are using Social Security? Medicare? Went to public schools? Went to a public college? Went to a hospital which was operated by the state? Have had to make a call to the police? Had to call in a fire? Drove on roads? Highways?

This is largely paid for by your tax dollars, my tax dollars, and people have to pay for it.

This is in no way about being against success. If you want, we can go to pure consumption taxes, as it is in Washington state, where I reside, and it’s impossible to live as a poor person, but rather toasty if you’re rich.

clindhartsen said:
Government’s have done this sense the dawn of time, and the truth of the matter is, if government doesn’t provide a level of assistance, where does the burden then move to? Also, for those who were promised Social Security, Medicare, or other services of the same type, what are you going to tell them? Oh, sorry, there’s no money, promise done, go figure it out for yourself. Past administrations and movements have built what we have today, and now we need to figure out how to pay for it. There’ll be entitlement reform, there’ll be tax hikes, and there’ll be a bit of pain all around.

Actually…..no it hasn’t. We didn’t proffer up this canard of SS until the FDR admin. We had managed to make it nearly 150 years without it.

As to who pays if the govt. doesn’t for the poor and indigent? Really the premise of this question is wrong. First, the govt. has NOTHING that wasn’t mine first. And yours. And all the other folks here. So it really isn’t coming from them…..it’s coming from me. And anytime I am picking up the check I get to decide on the venue and menu.

Second……if you think it is the responsbility of govt. to care for the poor…..if you agree with that ideal I would ask……do you send more of your income than necessary in taxes? You know you can send them a check. I would be curious as to what all you wealth redistibutors claim when you fill out your 1099 or W-2s. You know you can claim single and none even if you are married with 10 kids. That way you can do your part to pay for those that you deem more worthy of your dollars and efforts than you and your family. That also precludes you from deciding what is best for me and my family.

See we are all happier.

As to how to progress moving forward……you cannot screw the people who have been paying all their lives in one big swoop. Folks already retired should stay retired. But if inflation has not risen…..then there is no need for a raise in benefits to offset the increase of inflation. If your dollars are worth les and therefore you can afford less……stop sending folks to Washington who perpetuate this practice. This isn’t the case recently.

Folks about to retire need to stay working until an equal amount of time from their retirement in conujunction with the mortality rate when they began to pay equals the way it was computed when it was conceived. IOW, if the original retirement age was 60 and folks lived til they were seventy and now the life expectance is 80 they need to retire with full benefits a year later. Either that or cut them a check.

Which is my solution to all the folks under about the age of 50. Either cut them a check or provide them tax relief for as long as it takes to “work off” what they are owed. then all of us can be responsible for our own future and govt. can not be held accountable either way…….good or bad.

I love your last paragraph…..past admins have screwed the pooch so now we have to clean up the mess. And OF COURSE your solution is to raise taxes…….because you just know so much better than the rest of us what will work and what won’t.

It would be comical if it wasn’t about MY MONEY or MY FUCKING FUTURE,

clindhartsen said:
If I had all the numbers in front of me, I’d give you an exact answer, but 60% is probably about accurate. If I had more numbers, and time to think about it, that could hike up towards 70% if required. Even at 70% though, a Million Dollars income is 300,000 dollars remaining, something which most of us could survive on.

Wow but that is mighty benovolent of you. Only 6 dollars of every ten I make huh?

You know……you might sell this better if there was an actual work component to this. Perhaps you might find folks a bit more eager to pony up the dough the work hard to earn if those standing around with their hands out had a bit of skin in the game……you know……like to draw a check you have to have worked the week. You libs bitch non-stop about the infrastructure, the infrastructure……Well you don’t have to possess a PhD to work a broom or shovel. And perhaps if they had to earn it they would be less vocal about taking it at the barrel of a gun from those that actually do…..

clindhartsen said:We need reform, we need rethinking about all of this, and we need to shape taxes accordingly, but just screaming tax cuts for everyone isn’t going to work. Eventually we’ll be taxing nothing, or we’ll run ourself into deficits to the end of time.

Tell that to Jack Kennedy. He’s one of the left’s heroes right? History seems to disagree with you.

clindhartsen said:
My only underlying point to all of this: How many of us have utilized unemployment? Medicade? Food Stamps? Have family who are using Social Security? Medicare? Went to public schools? Went to a public college? Went to a hospital which was operated by the state? Have had to make a call to the police? Had to call in a fire? Drove on roads? Highways? This is largely paid for by your tax dollars, my tax dollars, and people have to pay for it. This is in no way about being against success. If you want, we can go to pure consumption taxes, as it is in Washington state, where I reside, and it’s impossible to live as a poor person, but rather toasty if you’re rich.

Actually unemployment, in it’s orginal form, was a form of insurance paid by your employer. the fact that Congress decided to extend it with my money is what many have issue with. Pay for it yourself……fine….collect all you can……I have to pay to subsidize you being out of work…..not so good.

SS/Medicare is something all of us have paid into. I only want what’s mine. that which was taken from me under the canard that it would be there when I get old.

Food stamps are no more. AFDC was replaced with TANF and it isn’t just a bottomless money pit anymore. And a STATE program if IIRC……so why do my federal dollars go there too?

Public schools…….not only do we pay those from our state taxes and property taxes we have to have all the unfunded mandates out of Washington and the bloated rolls of admins and non-teachers. Here’s a crazy thought…….since the inception of the Dept. of Education we have not gotten better in our scores versus the rest of the world….in fact we have gotten worse. MUCH worse. So…..I contend the DoE is a failed entity whose time has come. There’s a fat chunk of cash we could cut right this second and probably not see a fly speck of difference in the quality of American Education. Let the state boards call the shots in those states and if as you libs are always telling us….if you don’t like the policies of this state as in Cali or NY or NJ….move.

I offer you the same solution.

Police and fire……how about we pay for them by use? If the cops are constantly in your neighborhood or at your house…….you pay more. Why do I, who lives in a quiet midwest town with LOW LOW crime rates (big deal here is stolen lawnmower or kids vandalizing) and haven’t seen the cops or fire since Hitler was a house painter, have to pay to subsidize cops and fire for demilitarized zones like LA, Chicago, Trenton, New Orleans, NYC, Boston, Philly……….

This really doesn’t work good for you huh…….under that canard of war on poverty you have segregated the folks you count on to be your continuing chumps and continue to vote for you in these shooting war zones without regard. Now I have to pay for it.

No thanks.

It would seem that as much as the King likes to impress us with his importance on the world stage, his mastery of foreign languages, his travels, his position as a wealthy businessman, etc., he could at least throw in a fact or two every now and then to back up his claims. Otherwise, how do we know he isn’t just making all of this up and lying to us?

To which of his Pig Gods is Hannity referring??

Except for Murdoch, the rest of the mainstream media is hopelessly biased in favor the Democrats. And how does the Left respond to this? They want to silence Murdoch, so that only leftwing views could be aired in American media. As they constantly make clear, the Left doesn’t want to debate people who disagree with them….the Left wants to CENSOR and SILENCE them.

Noticed, Weiner’s demeanor is somewhat more mellow when speaking to men? He still doesn’t make sense but, he’s not as bullish.

Without Rupert wannabe “journalists” like Sean would probably have to go out and get a “real job”.

BFD said:
I’m curious, did Weiner start blubbering like McConnell and Boehner did?

No, but he will in 2012.

Davo said:
Weiner is trying to be the DemoCrit Party’s new Alan Grayson.

Not there yet but he’s got potential.

And I want to thank God for making ol purple lips keep the tax cuts, Christmas in my gated community will be very merry.

From now on the Bush Era Tax Cuts shall be known as The obama Tax Extinsions.