The man is not happy that someone else wants to dislodge him from his job. Makes sense. But, if he has become so “Washington”that he does not realize that he is supposed to be working for the citizens, then he needs to reassess his stances.Term limits, self imposed, might be the answer here.

John Dingell, Congressman from Michigan, has been in office since 1955, in a district that his father had since 1933. So, he’s entrenched himself, but does he serve the people, or himself? How can he know what the real world is, when he has spent his life making laws for the “small people?”

Nobody in office should be safe because of seniority. Listen to the citizens. Don’t stay too long.

A ‘dick lugar’ sounds like a disgusting sex act.

what Lugar fails to understand is what use is having a republican majority in the senate by 1 or 2 members when you have about 5 of them that would be voting with the Democrats 90% of the time on the major issues. 

The Republican Senators won’t even break unison to avoid a filibuster now — no matter what the issue is. They are all so loyal that they won’t even allow a up-or-down vote. That is the GOP’s weakness. Blind loyalty is nothing to be proud of, whether Democrat or Republican.

Thanks to the tea party the Dems took a “shellacking” in 2010 and gave the pubs the house majority.

The tea party has their sights set on rhinos like Lugar…no wonder why he is fearing for his job!

Mike Lee, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio, Scott Brown, Ron Johnson….All tea party Senators today, except Brown, the hack. Think back to 2009 and you’ll hear the sound of Lugar, Cornyn and McConnell all supporting their primary opponents, all wanting a few more empty suits to help give McConnell the gavel and Lugar a chairmanship. Time for the old fart brigade to keep it moving and go away. Ohio, pull your head out of your asses, will you?

Your OWS dollars at work!

“Female Occupy Nashville Protesters Caught in All-Out Brawl on Christmas Day”

Posted on December 26, 2011

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/female-occupy-nashville-protesters-caught-in-all-out-brawl-on-christmas-day/

The fight was over which one was the bigger loser!

LMAO

“Nobody in office should be safe because of seniority”
That’s simply obvious & says nothing; one could argue at least as validly, & at lot more acutely, that Lugar is NOT in office “because of seniority” – he’s in office because people voted him into office.

Besides that, you’re not dealing with the point he made, being the same point in the lede. That point seems well taken, given: a) the fact that the outcome of the 2010 elections left the Dems in the majority at 52 seats, plus being able to largely rely on the one Independent (Bernie Sanders, who is provably a more reliable vote on the Dems side than at least 3 senators voted in as Dems, in Connecticut, Nebraska & West Virginia): b) the fact that TP candidates won in each of Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Nevada, Utah & lost all 5; & c) if one simply assumes that a generic Republican non-TP candidate COULD have received enough additional votes to win those seats, an assumption supported by the consensus of polling in each of those 5, to varying strengths – the thing Lugar meant in referring to giving “chances” to the GOP.

You could have argued instead that Lugar is not sufficiently supportive of what the Republican TP Caucus calls “conservative”, & that may be true; 

but I could argue in response that the current size of the Republican TP Caucus was largely a function of off-presidential-year dynamics & the GOP having empowered the mentality of the John Birch Society & similar interest groups which the party had succeeded mostly in holding at bay since after the debacle it experienced in 1964, & forecast that the GOP is going to lose it’s majority in the House in the 2012 elections in large part because that same TP Caucus is going to be dramatically reduced in size; & to that, the larger point Lugar clearly is making is that a TP nominee for his seat is likely to do sufficiently so worse at the ballot box that it will give the Dems a chance to win that seat that they otherwise would not have were he again nominated (He’s not saying a Dems WOULD win; he’s saying that the Indiana GOP nominating a TP candidate rather than him would give the Dems a better CHANCE to win; & he has available to him several streams of historical support for that assertion.).

To paraphrase John Boehner in the context of the debt ceiling ‘deal’: I’m sure Lugar is pretty happy to stick with his analysis, & I’m pretty happy to stick with my forecast. 

Sounds like something the averageConservative would say.

I expect the DNC would be thrilled to face an All-TP line-up in 2012.

but I could argue in response that the current size of the Republican TP
Caucus was largely a function of off-presidential-year dynamics”

Yeah, Obama’s failures had nothing to do with Obama  it was just your “typical” off-presidentail-year dynamics.”

“Republican tsunami: Democrats lose control of the House as voters slam Obama with worst losses for 62 years
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1326053/MID-TERM-ELECTIONS-2010-Democrats-lose-House-Republican-tsunami.html#ixzz1hefqyEttYeah, it was just that off-year thing.Keep believing that.

I’m sure you are quite well acquainted with  that widdle as is Hout.

Thanks to the tea party the Dems took a “shellacking” in 2010″

No, no, no- didn’t ya see Hout’s comment:

“but I could argue in response that the current size of the Republican TP
Caucus was largely a function of off-presidential-year dynamics”

It was just your typical “off-presidential-year dynamics.”

So common that it last occurred 62 years ago!

LMAO

From the D perspective, I hope that this is sort of thinking turns out to be highly persuasive.

(From my perspective, I’m prepared to grant that the TP energy bunny had something material to do with the elections of Paul & Johnson, but I also think that each of Lee, Rubio, Toomey or Brown could have been elected without it – Brown being the tell, as you imply. A more interesting question looking ahead is which of those 6 will be re-elected the next time they face the people; I could say, & in fact I do say, that at least 2, likely 3-4, & possibly 5 will not be re-elected. The two who are toast are Brown in 2012 & Johnson in 2016; the two with the best chance of getting re-elected are Rubio & Lee, as each enjoys enough local & other advantages to survive walking away from the TPers. State-wide races provide quite different contexts for shizo-libertarians than House seats; the younger Paul is highly unlikely to end up commanding anything like the loyalty his father has enjoyed. The other most unpredictable situation, that of Toomey, I think depends not just on context – if the economy continues to improve under Obama through 2016, the next D nominee is bound to benefit from that – but on the ability of Toomey to shape-shift to suit the volatile mood in Pennsylvania, something that Arlen Specter was pull off a number of times.

Lugar is correct, but this has happened before, and isn’t unique to the Tea Party or Republicans.

Movements arise to put more strident members into Congress. Sometimes they succeed, and sometimes they fail. The Tea Party succeeded more than it failed, but in some situations (see Sharon Angle from NV) the candidate turned out to be weak in the general election.

Again, we’ve seen this before on both sides. Joe Lieberman was challenged because he wasn’t deemed left-wing enough (by MoveOn.org, etc.), and failed to make a return bid for the Democratic nomination. He still won his seat as an Independent, after the Ned Lamont failed to win in the general election.

Lugar perhaps overstated his case by saying the Tea Party “killed chances,” because without the TP support, it’s doubtful all the seats that did turn would have been able to do so. But, he is accurate in saying that in some cases, the TP put forth candidates which could not win (and did not win) in the general election.

Nobody expected the GOP to take over the Senate in 2010. They would have had to nearly run the table, and it simply wasn’t going to happen. But they did pick up 6 of the 19 seats Dems were defending. Were you expecting them to take 11?

Next year, Dems will be defending 23 seats while the GOP is defending 10. That makes for very good odds for the GOP.

Oh, and you might want to familiarize yourself with Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT). The other 4 races you reference were for Dem controlled seats, which they held.

Losing is winning!!!!!

Hey, who’s up for some Christmas Occupy Rape? Catch the spirit!

Maybe you’d like it there, as they make up “facts” to suit their purposes like you do.

Sure is:

“The Republican Party gained 63 seats in the U.S. House of
Representatives, recapturing the majority, and making it the largest seat change since 1948 and the largest for any midterm election since the 1938 midterm elections.

The Republicans gained six seats in the U.S. Senate, expanding its minority, and also gained 680 seats in state legislative races,[ to break the previous majority record of 628 set by Democrats in the post-Watergate elections of 1974.
This left Republicans in control of 25 state legislatures, compared to the 15 still controlled by Democrats. After the election, Republicans took control of 29 of the 50 State Governorships.’

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_elections,_2010

Let’s hope they still continue to make excuses for Barry into the 2012 election.

but now they will lose congress too—
and then what?
will you all rally for the preze becuae then again–he will have a legitimate madate..
if every conservative does not rally for the prez this time–it will be proof that they frauds and what they claim to believe in is all lies..

#1–Dick is a good senator and he knows more about government than you ever will.
#2-so NOW you agree that dems could not get anything done because of not having a fully willing super majority?
evern after all of the hyperbole of dems having a full unfettered path?

i love it when the truth finally comes out…usually when it comes to others having to live up to the standards the set for others..
hehehe

Come on Dick, get real. Obviously you did not get the memo from Rusty the Chickenhawk. Every time a conservative loses it is either a result of voter fraud or the candidate was not conservative enough.

and becuase of the ‘shellacking’—(after the gop shellacking in 2006, 2008 and 2010)—dems will get the house back and govies in 2014..

we just had to remind people what happens when republicans get drunk with a little power–they wreck the country~

don’t worry–the will lose it again–like they always do~

dems lose elections due to laziness and repubs lose them due to mischief and destruction

too bad you hate america..

Aren’t you or was it Henry Wood the guy  who said the other day that the economy was improving even as the govt. was reporting:

“Third quarter GDP was revised downward once again to 1.8% on an annual basis.Personal consumption growth for the third quarter was also moved downward from 2.3% to 1.7%.

Analysts expected GDP estimates to hold steady at 2.0%, after growing an estimated 1.3% in the second quarter.
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-22/markets/30545573_1_private-inventory-investment-gdp-government-spending#ixzz1heqJf1jk

don’t worry–the will lose it again–like they always do~”

“”The Republican Party gained 63 seats in the U.S. House of
Representatives, recapturing the majority, and making it the largest seat change since 1948 and the largest for any midterm election since the 1938 midterm elections.”

yeah, just like they ALWAYS do.

Every time a conservative loses it is either a result of voter fraud or the candidate was not conservative enough. ”

LMAO

That is so, so funny.

Just WHO was whining over the 2000 and 2004 elections crying “voter fraud” and voter suppression?

It wasn’t the Repubs.

What’s the final score going to be, joe? And do you have the Mega Millions numbers for tonight?

how much do you believe in your nonsese?
they cons lost their control under bush after their ‘revolution’ under clinton..
and they will lose it again..
how much did you want to wager? i missed that~

Nope, just you, joe. Happy New Year, dirtbag.

final score will be

Dems 3 and cons -0-
house, sentate and presidency..

how much you in for?

well that is not nice…
but i can pretty much show your posts hate over 1/2 of america ie liberals, another 1/4 as mexicans, 1/10 as muslims, 1/4 as blacks as well as our friends the europeans..
so that makes you a liar..
happy New Year to YOU..mi amigo..
2012 will be a good year for america –

So the republican party has become “the” big tent in politics now it appears

It is so inclusinve that it accommodates people from all walks of life from the nutty far far-right middle-aged & older caucasian all the way to the opposite side of the spectrum where your run-of-the-mill right of center caucasian conservative rightests are

stoneparkIV, you are one angry person. I see your posts here a there, always snarky, self important and bloviating. Are you as toxic in person?

how much do you believe in your nonsese?”

LOL

Refute what I posted or STFU- since you can not refute it, just STFU loser.

Refute what I post- go ahead- and it is the two OWSERs who are angry, son, not me.

They are the ones fighting.

Andd snarky comments?

Anything like this?

“A ‘dick lugar’ sounds like a disgusting sex act. ”

Kindly keep your lib TPs to yourself.

Sure you can, joe. Have another drink.

What are you willing to put in escrow? I’ll take all of it.

Ahhh, the wingnut minister of disinformation followed by his loyal stooge and lap dog, Pablow. I do believe you need a refresher course in history. But, then again, when have you let facts get in your way? Do the names James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles ring a bell? If they do, next question. Why did they pick on ACORN? Think hard, think real hard. Now for the bonus round. Why did they think they needed to doctor the tapes to prove a point? 

Answer: all their efforts were related to a wingnut belief that ACORN was instrumental in Obama’s beat down of McCain as a result of voter fraud perpetrated by ACORN.

Now run along. I hope you had a wonderful Christmas. I know President Obama did after Bonehead’s and his stooge, Can’t-or’s gift.

Their point was proved by the unedited tapes that were posted concurrently with the YouTube videos, which had nothing to do with voter fraud. Why do you suppose Obama signed legislation defunding them? Why do you suppose ACORN no longer exists?

The tea party is not beholden to the Republican party. It merely uses that party to advance the goal of limited, constitutionally constrained federal gov’t that does not borrow way too much. Lugar has shown that this aim is not a priority for him. Therefore, Republican or not, Lugar is not our friend. Lugar could listen to Indiana tea party members and try to win their favor, or he could defend his wayward, overspending ways. He chose the latter. The tea party has no choice but to oppose him in the primary. It is the principled thing to do.

Now, if the Democrats chose to nominate a fiscally sane individual who promised to oppose his own party’s typical bent of overspending and over-regulating, the tea party would support that person. I know, fat chance.

In any case, the tea party is hanging tough. It is the only way to control debt and keep us from becoming a pauper nation. And anyone who does not believe that should talk to someone who understands fiscal policy and, to quote Indiana governor Mitch Daniels, “bring along your 3rd grade math book”.

Wait, so you have already decided that Obama will be re-elected and his policies will help improve the economy “through 2016″? And then you make pronouncements about future Senate elections? You speak intelligently but are clearly delusional.

But you being a loyal Dem and all, I must ask. If Claire McCaskill was on TV saying, “We need to moderate if we want to hold the senate in 2013. We need to reject the “moveon.org candidates and remember that this is a moderate country”, would you have a problem with that?

My point was to show that Lugar and the boys make these statements because they are bitter and desperately want the majority, not that they are absolutely wrong(which I think they are). That’s fine, but they pretend like their positions are principled rather than careerist hackery.

Your view seems to fit nicely with David Frum’s. He has been proven wrong consistently, I’m thinking you will be as well.

Merry Christmas

Ted Kennedy knew a lot about gov’t. But apparently he and his friend Lugar do not understand the importance of eliminating a great deal of gov’t spending. He is a respectable candidate, but is not being responsive to those who care about not burdening the next generation with massive debt. It was done to us (by the likes of Lugar), we should not do it to our children and grandchildren (no matter how much the presumptuous Senator complains).

“if the economy continues to improve under Obama through 2016″

What planet are you on? The private sector economy has not yet returned to its pre-Obama heights. The only way to goose GDP to where it is now barely above the pre-Obama levels is to borrow massively (and imprudently) to promote public spending. This is not sustainable (as the gov’t cannot tax that portion of the GDP that it contributes — at least, to do so does not really bring in fresh revenue).

So Obama’s vampire economy is measured as doing well, but only a teeny bopper fan of Twilight would consider that normal or healthy.

The tapes were crap and O’Keefe is a turd.  Unfortunately Democrats caved, yet again, in trying to appease the Right. But it’s funny how they are still the boogeyman to the Right.

I agree with your excellent analysis, except that I would not characterize the tea party or its members as strident (in contrast, for example, to OWS or Barney Frank). We are focused on reducing the size and scope of gov’t, its cost and its regulatory overreach, and to promoting self-reliance, free markets and property rights. We are the staunchest proponents of economic liberty and we will not stop until we have accomplished this. Nothing strident in that.

Republicants rode the wave of these ignorant and racist simpletons and in retrospect realize the damage they have caused. Who can forget those wonderful moments such as “I want my country back” and the priceless “Obama is a muslim” directed at John McCain.  Classic.

Teabaggers. The gift that keeps on shooting itself in the foot.

Meet Stonedputz and Pablo – heartwarming. http://funnypicsofanything.com/upload/3364-8265/redneck-wedding-fails.jpg

LOL

I like how you could not refute what I posted.

OKeefe’s videos had NOTHING to do with what ACORN did in the election but was about the unsavory characters that ACORN employed.

Link to ONE O’Keefe video asking ACORN if it had done anything with the voter registration.

GO ahead- post the link!

JUST ONE VIDEO, son!

Poor 2012- he can not refute one thing I post!

You begged the issue. Hardly surprising, Pablow. The wingnuts needed a whipping boy after the McCain debacle. Obama signed the legislation because there was one person who really screwed up and he did not wait for the truth to come out. People make mistakes.

Meh.  We’ll never hear of you again as soon as the GOP is done using you to gain power. :(

So, Obama doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing? That’s convincing, Husky. Except that the truth came out at the very same time as what you call lies, as the full unedited audio and transcripts came out with the YouTube videos. What took a while to catch up was the Democrat spin, and nobody bought it but you zombies.

That isn’t an argument. RAGE AGAINST THE INTERNET!!!

Interesting choice. A British newspaper analyzing a US election. No US source?

I looked back at Christmas Eve and saw how vigorously and frequently you were posting. Try for some in person human interaction on New Year’s Eve. I am sure you can find a desperate woman who would keep company with you that night.

And, now, Wilkipedia. What a wealth of information you are.

I didn’t see any made up facts.

Here is another fact: You were all alone Christmas Eve. Makes me weep.

Well, Dingbat, it means were not sliding in the Great Depression II which W and Bick D*ck seemed to be seeking. And, it means we’re not sliding into a Double Dip Recession. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. Read it and weep.

Actually, no. They all made some effort to distance themselevs from the T-Partee Terrorists. The T-Partee Terrorist candidates were Obtuse Angle, Randi the Witch and John D. Hayseed. All lost.

In point of fact, all major indices are improved over when W left. The W and Big D*ck Great Depression II was avoided, and we haven’t fallen into a Double Dip Recession. In fact, GDP has grown for a number of consecutive quarters. Hence, no recession. That, my rightist friend, is the fact. Deal with it.

You probably should have joined OWS on Christmas Eve. At least you wouldn’t have been all alone with the company of only a keyboard.

Guess again, Kook. This may come as a shock to you, but some people work on Christmas Eve. Not your cats, though.

Not when the people are blaming the GOP/TP for the economic mess. Stalled budget talks, etc.

Recessions used to have recoveries. Used to.

If those were my options, I’d take the keyboard. At least I don’t have to smell you from here.

He’s been back on under this name for what, 2 1/2 weeks and has 1200+ posts.  That alone shows that we’re not exactly dealing with a person with a personal or professional life…

Please, whatever you do, don’t have children. Being forced to subsidize you is bad enough. You, contributing one useless parasite to the world, are enough.

Lugar: ANOTHER RINO “DICK” WHO NEEDS TO BE DUMPED:

HR 1540

Legislation (Yea)
Dec. 15, 2011 – -Authorizes the Armed Forces of the United States to
detain covered persons in military custody pending disposition under the
law of war (Secs. 1021 & …

http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/53292/dick-lugar
Dick Lugar: House GOP should cave on payroll-tax-cut extension for the good of the country

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2011/12/19/dick-lugar-house-gop-should-cave-on-payroll-tax-cut-extension-for-the-good-of-the-country/
ON FACEBOOK: Dump Dick Lugar In 2012

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dump-Dick-Lugar-In-2012/173928959303669

we do and he is!

That’s interesting, Kook. And odd, as the last comment I made on 12/24 was this one, at 8:26 PM.

You really need to stop fantasizing about me, Freak.

He’s been back on under this name for what, 2 1/2 weeks and has 1200+ posts.

Wherever did you get that idea or those numbers? http://disqus.com/PabIo/

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/house

Way over due for Term Limits. WAY, WAY, over due.

2 terms in office as Senator.
3 Terms in office as Congressman.
or a Combined 12 years in Office.
Once your term is over you can not be hired as a lobbyist. You’re done with Washington Life. Go back to what you were doing before.
You say you were a lawyer? Go practice law.
You say you were an exterminator? Go exterminate bugs.
You say you were a doctor? Go heal some people.

Otherwise, let some new people fix Washington. If you could not do it within your allotted 12 years, time for someone new.

Then we’ll have no Richard Lugars or John Dingells or other assorted political mafia who go and plant roots in the Capital AND NEVER LEAVE.

What?  The republican party is still as bigoted as ever.  You’re not welcome in the GOP if your Hispanic, gay, a gay soldier, etc.   The Republican Party does NOT have a ‘big’ tent as far as voters go, The Democratic Party is still the party that welcomes ‘all’ folks. The only tent the republican party has is their ‘circus tent’ that the candidates have been preforming in during the GOP debates – LOL  :) 

Richard Lugar knows how to read and isn’t full of hate.  Therefore, to the Tea Party, he is not a good conservative.

they do not allow much outside time at the criminally insane part of the prison..
come on RRE–give the guy a break..
:)

”
What are you willing to put in escrow? I’ll take all of it.
”
i will match whatever you want pablo–just let me know when and where.

what is worse—he was not alone –JUST IGNORED ..
:)

and looks like another conservative who gets PAID TO POST ON MEDIAITE???

man o man–if i had people like this work for me…they would be paying me for wasting company time..

lets see–job growth every month for the last 1.5 years?
stoock market rebounded?
america is stronger than europe?
all of this after the worst recession in history?

but i guess for those with small penie–size does not matter..
hehehe

guess what–SIZE DOES MATTER..
at least you are a HUGE ass…
:)

you know pablo does not get to leave his room…
:)

well until they change his diapers that is~

If the teabaggers have their way, they will lose the presidency as well.

Baggers don’t want to beat Obama, they would rather beat up Obama.

StoneparkiV, you have nothing worth while to reply to.  Yes, in 2004 there was a dispute in the voting because it came down to just Florida and a very slim margin of victory that called for an automatic recount.  Apparently you also don’t recall how the Republicans were also refuting the results in 2004 until it was finally decided after several recounts in their favor.  I also don’t recall anybody complaining of voter fraud in 2000.  Please provide the information from a reliable source.  As far as ACORN, one charge of being found guilty in just one state doesn’t mean the whole organization was bad.  In fact, ACORN was grossly misrepresented in O’Keef’s video which O’Keef edited to make the outcome come out the way he wanted.  FOX News then got a hold of it and used it to  continuously repeat O’keef’s claims, even after he was shown to have heavily edited the results.  Nothing like “Fair and Balanced”.

Anyone who posts something from Beck is automatically discredited and put in the nuts zone.  Beck has been in a downward trend as he discredits himself with ridiculous statements that even Breitbard couldn’t swallow.  What does that tell everyone?  He now has 1/10 the audience he once had at FOX.  It’s no wonder FOX fired him.  Ailes could no longer allow Beck to ruin what reputation they had left to someone making up false conspiracies discrediting the whole organization.

I’m not a fan of Pablo’s politics or the way he interacts with people here, but I’m even less of a fan of when people pull out the old “get a life” shtick. It’s reminiscent of grade school and completely irrelevant.

Reactionaries are tedious and boring. You just have to put up with them for a short while every 25  years or so.

But poor King could not REFUTE one thing stated in my post.

Prefer your news from CNN, son.

It’s the same:

”

“It is also the largest number of House pickups since
Democrats picked up 75 seats in 1948.”

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/02/election.house/index.html

CentralScruntinizer”

“He’s been back on under this name for what, 2 1/2 weeks and has 1200+ posts.  That alone shows that we’re not exactly dealing with a person
with a personal or professional life…”

He posts THIS to a guy who has  29549 posts!OMG- you can’t make this kind of lib stupidity up. Ya just can’t!LMAO

let’s see  joe:

GDP revised down AGAIN- 8.6% unemployment due to 315k just giving up in November alone.

Record# on welfare, food stamps, in poverty, record # of homeless children and 1st. ever credit downgrade in US history.

Quick, joe, make up signs boasting those accomplishments and give them to the Obama campaign- I’m SURE they want ‘em!

LOL

God- another lying lib- where on this thread did I post something from Beck and refute anything I ever posted from Beck.

Poor thing- he doesn’t understand that we want the GDP to go the other way.

LOL

Yeah, hopefully YOU will be gone soon.

Race card!

drink!

Talking about hate, why don’t you share some more of your anti-Christian bigotry with us, son?

We are gonna’ do the former….and would LOVE a shot at the latter.

OMG – Debbie Wasserman Schultz posts here.

Lugar may be right, but even if the Republicans held the majority in the Senate, they still wouldn’t be able to reach consensus with the House Republicans.  They’re just too tainted by the Tea Party to get anything done without a huge threat, like the recent huge drop in approval of House Republicans because of their perceived intransigence on the payroll tax cut issue.  (Not that they aren’t intransigent in general, but this was almost as dramatic as their intransigence on a debt deal.  Even though the consequences weren’t as severe, people are sick of it.)

Dems wanted an accurate and legally-allowed recount of the votes. Republicons wanted to call the election for themselves and stop any legally-allowed recounts before they could occur.

It wasn’t voter suppression. It never was “voter fraud.” It was election manipulation. And it continues today: how did votes magically appear in Wisconsin in 2011 giving the conservative supreme court justice the victory with just enough of a margin so the recount could not be paid for by the state?

where is the democrat senate budget during the past 3 years???  and you talk about failing to break unison???…roflol

maybe lugar will switch party’s and become a Democrat…that worked so well for ya guys last time ;)

Rofloler, legislation typically starts in the House, which is currently (mis-)led by the Republicans. The Democrats produced budgets when Pelosi was Speaker. Or have you forgotten?

I happen to agree with Lugar.  However, the people elected the Tea Party candidates in 2010 because they promised to do all they can to cut spending, lower the national debt, and reduce the size and interference of government in our lives.  Now that they actually are trying to keep those promises, which in and of itself is unheard of, they are being blamed for gridlock and intransigence.  As I see it, it’s the DEMOCRATS AND OBAMA WHO ARE INTRANSIGENT and who REFUSE to work with those Congressmen.

You can’t have it both ways.  We either accomplish what the majority of people wanted to accomplish, or we all go down together, like Greece.  It seems to me, the people are sick of Obama and the Democrats.

Racist simpletons???  Tired, boring demgougery.  We DO want our country back and we’ll work like hell to save it.  Excactly what “damage” have they caused when they are only 1/3 of 1/3 of government?   They only do their best to hold back the DAMAGE the Democrats are doing to this country.  Sometimes gridlock is a good thing!

99% of us are not sympathetic to the dirty smelly Occupiers who preach Anarchy, Communism, Socialism and ignorance.  Notice how even the Democrat politicians have backed away from supporting them.

Utter and complete nonsense and everyone knows it!

If you look it up, you will find that 90% of voter fraud charges and convictions are against Democrats.  They are really good at it, as Acorn and the Union Thugs can attest.

Was that supposed to be a point in favor of Acorn and Obama?  LOL!!!  You just PROVED the point that they are the poster people for voter fraud and corruption.  We all remember very well the James O’Keefe and Hannah Giles  videos exposing the corruption, encouragement of child sex slaves, and law breaking in general that Acorn was involved in on a regular basis and their ultimate loss of funding and shame.

Keep it up, we need more “thinkers” like you defending Obama.

LOL….you didn’t see the SEVERAL VIDEOS in different states of the Acorn corruption?  The rest of the nation did.  You’re far from fully informed.

If you think O’Keefe put those words into the mouths of the Acorn employees, you really are hopelessly gullible.

LOL…you don’t REALLY believe that BS, do you?  Acorn did it again and again, in state after state, with videos to prove it.  It’s UNDENIABLE, not matter how hard you try.

Videos don’t lie.  Try as hard as you like…TRUTH IS TRUTH!!!

Now that’s a silly comment.

Good for you, StonpakIV,  for showing up the hypocrisy!

Gee, you think so?  Seems that Beck turns out to be correct much more often than not, and he certainly was right about his exposing the dangers of the Communists in our schools and government.  And I wouldn’t worry about Beck’s ability to draw viewers, listeners or readers.  He’s doing just fine on his radio show,  GBTV and the Blaze.

They can’t refute it…they can only pretend it’s lies.  They buy into the Democrat Party line and believe what they’re told to believe…never try to research or reason on their own.

I’d rather be alone in a cave than sit next to a smelly, dirty OWSer!  At least I wouldn’t be afraid of getting fleas!

Sounds to me YOU are the one who hates America!

Now, you know I’m talking about conservtive, fat, slovenly paranoid reactionaries; a right wing a hole, you know, like you and your kind. You’ll be completely forgotten soon. 

you are going to hell, a hole.

dont you just love how the repugs all of a sudden started paying attention to statistics and polls once “W” left office. Its a freaking hoot! 

or in the face ! a la Slick Dick Cheney 

OK, how is racist a holes? Better? how about picking up a dictionary and actually learning the meaning of those words you just posted. Do you even know the difference between communism and socialism? or Capitalism and Democracy? And I mean real definitions, not FOXisms. 

oh no, sorry to break it to you, but facts dont matter to these wingnuts. they just rant, and rant and have no care for reality or facts..

since when do republetards use New York times as sources for their data. I thought they were a left wing propaganda arm? oh thats right, you guys dont care you just find shit that agrees with your points and post! THX!  

I agree with your analysis, but from the perspective of a liberal I believe that the emphasis on lower taxes as a solution to everything is a mistake. The idea that massive cuts in government programs is the single essential cure for all ills is another mistake. People do not recognize the benefits of programs that do not affect them directly. The average citizen never sees an EPA inspector, and assumes that they have no purpose.
Some candidates have claimed that the air and water and ground are now clean, so we can do away with the EPA. That is like saying the dishes have been done, and we don’t need to do them again. Or the meal has been cooked and we have eaten. Problem solved.

You conservatives have not got ONE candidate with a clean record of either being conservative enough or honest enough to satisfy you. Not one. Eventually, you will have to settle for Romney, and how much enthusiasm will that generate.

Made against Democrats BY conservatives. How many proven?
I think it works out to no more than two people. I’ll let you find the proof that it was more.
Only actual false votes count. A false registration does no harm if no vote is cast.

3 years!!! the first two had the Democrats in charge!!!!!!

LOL!  ….   You say, ” A false registration does no harm if no vote is cast. “  Now THAT’S what’s called silly rationalization. Only a fool would buy into that one.

@mardec:disqus
A false registration is unethical and immoral, but if there is no vote cast, it does not change the election.

The race card has been played so often, it no longer has any meaning or impact.  It’s just a joke to most Americans today.  It’s a YAWN.

Now I can’t believe you are so ignorant or uninformed that you have to ask me “Do you even know the difference between communism and socialism? or
Capitalism and Democracy? And I mean real definitions, not FOXisms.
“   I certainly do know the difference, as do most Americans over the age of 12.  I could teach you, but I just don’t have the time.  You may need to go the the library or do some research on the internet and you can learn for yourself.

please teach away oh wise one! I’m dying to learn what the idiot half of the country thinks. Based on your choice of words and comments, I’d be willing to bet you dont know the difference, between socialism and communism! I know this because you call Obama a socialist. That tells me right there, you have no clue WTF socialist even is. should I continue? exactly! have a nice day !

BTW, id love to go to the library as you suggested, I hope its still there, I know you wingnuts would love to cut funding to anything that actually educates people. so I am assuming libraries are just a waste of tax payer money right? especially if they have books on communism and socialism! must be that dirty Obama indoctrinating our kids again! 

Now you’ve actually said something that’s true!….”must be that dirty Obama indoctrinating our kids again!”  That’s exactly what Obama and Liberals try to do.

Here’s an example of Liberal teachings infiltrating the Girl Scouts of America:
“Under the headline, “Consider the Source,” text encourages girls to go to the George Soros-funded Media Matters for America web site to
clear up any media misinformation they might encounter. It reads:

The Internet is a breeding ground for “urban legends,”
which are false stories told as if true. Next time you receive a txt or e-mail about something that seems unbelievable, confirm it before you spread it.
The fact-checking site snopes.com investigates everything from urban legends to “news” articles and posts its findings. Media Matters for America (http://mediamatters.org/) gets the word out about media
misinformation.”

Now this is information we can use to finally expose Snopes.com as a Liberal site and, therefore, totally unreliable. I suspected as much and now I know.