RENAME THE BILL
the Stewart/Shepard bill

held a hearing on the bill.)

ONE HEARING
AND NOT ALL THE MEMBERS WERE PRESENT!!!

I find Colbourn and De-Mint complex to understand. These jokers hate Govt. so much and they think it’s so inept, yet they still work hard to be part of it. I don’t understand the contradiction. I’ve never heard them trying to do something positive, they are always blocking one thing or the other, even under W. If you hate Govt. so much or think they are inept, then get the hell out and let the people who can do the darn job do it.

skyfet said:
I find Colbourn and De-Mint complex to understand. These jokers hate Govt. so much and they think it’s so inept, yet they still work hard to be part of it. I don’t understand the contradiction. I’ve never heard them trying to do something positive, they are always blocking one thing or the other, even under W. If you hate Govt. so much or think they are inept, then get the hell out and let the people who can do the darn job do it.

I think you’re correct. Limited government “espousers” are often the greatest big government creators.

Coburn has actually worked effectively and well on a couple of children’s health bills. Not a thick portfolio, to be sure. Generally, he is negative to the core.

Demented. Not a thing redeeming about him.

Atticus Draco said:
RENAME THE BILLthe Stewart/Shepard bill

You really have a problem with anything the non-conservatives advocate. It is so bad, you are against American interests if non-conservatives advocate something. Shame on you.

I’m not a big advocacy journalism proponent, but Republicans have long worked in the shadows, unchecked by the media. This needed to be done. Good work, Shep.

The Real Royal King said:
I think you’re correct. Limited government “espousers” are often the greatest big government creators.

Coburn has actually worked effectively and well on a couple of children’s health bills. Not a thick portfolio, to be sure. Generally, he is negative to the core.

Demented. Not a thing redeeming about him.

Thanks for the update regarding Colbourn, I didn’t know about the positives he has done. All I constantly here from him is complains, moaning, whining and the Govt. is this and that, makes my head go around about someone who appears to hate his job, but also loves disrupting it.

James Nelson said:
You really have a problem with anything the non-conservatives advocate. It is so bad, you are against American interests if non-conservatives advocate something. Shame on you.

i have a problem with ANYTHING being shoved down our fiscal throats bud!!!
Those two idiots are pushing solely on EMOTIONS rather than what the hell is in the bill
IT HAS the words GOVT. HEALTH COMPENSATION
That’s ALL SHEP AND JON ARE CONCERNED ABOUT!

Many of the 911 first responders are seriously sick and dying – this is no coincidence. The bill is being brushed aside by certain senators and the media – again, no coincidence. I don’t have the privilege of having week after Christmas off; I am glad that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are voicing this outrage.

printbrat said:
Many of the 911 first responders are seriously sick and dying – this is no coincidence. The bill is being brushed aside by certain senators and the media – again, no coincidence. I don’t have the privilege of having week after Christmas off; I am glad that Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are voicing this outrage.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM
someone has appealed to your emotions rather than your senses!
THERE IS REAL OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL,, AND IT BECAUSE THEY HATE RESCUE WORKERS!!
Or for that matter SPENDING THE MONEY,, it’s a lousy 6.2 B now,, reduced from 7.4(?)
but i;m very confident you dont know why there is opposition to this!!!
‘COZ it hasnt been reported,, ESPECIALLY NOT HERE,, OR ON SHEP’S SHOW OR JON’S

‘
THERE’S MORE TO IT THAN JUST HANDING OUT CHECKS TO 1ST RESPONDERS!!!!

Atticus Draco is clearly the emotion one in all this discussion.

Shep gets more and more awesome by the day!

printbrat said:
Atticus Draco is clearly the emotion one in all this discussion.

I’M PISSED BECAUSE,,
both sides of this issue are NOT being aired
and whats being aired is focused ,, or directed to our emotions,, rather our common sense
SHEP has bitched about this a couple times now,,
and has NEVER given the opposition any VOICE!
“OH HE’S JUST BLOCKING IT”
well he has a reason for blocking it
and he didnt get off his dead ass to find out why!
“This kinda politics is bad”
UP YOURS SHEP!

Atticua Draco: Then punish the media, and not the 911 first responders.

I feel really bad for those guys. They are true heroes and they are owed a tremendous amount of gratitude for all that they have done. However, I feel that the actions of Stewart and Shep are really scummy. To paint people that are legitimetly (sp) concerned about the cost and the accountability of the bill as heartless SOB’s really doesnt answer the true questions. Why is there all of a sudden a rush to push a bill of this magnitude before the new congress enters? Why is there little or no debate for this type of legislation? NY already has a hard time accounting for the money spent in care on the state level, but this should be no problem in the federal level? Where there has been widespread levels of corruption, waste and fraud engineered by both parties? Those are serious questions. That shouldnt be any reason to be labeled as cruel or heartless by a news anchor that by my view, has not truly explained the other side of the issue and a comedian that gets more love from the White House that Hillary Clinton.

There’s a simple solution to this that won’t cost one red cent (I’ve actually never SEEN a red cent, but never mind): take all the sick first responders to John Hagee’s church in San Antonio and have him pray over them. Jesus has never failed to restore people with emphysema, cancer, the heartbreak of psoriasis to health! It’s a sure thing.

printbrat said:
Atticua Draco: Then punish the media, and not the 911 first responders.

NO!
i would punish the democrats,, they’re are the ones that F’d this UP
THIS BILL HAS BEEN AROUND FOR AWHILE
THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE PLAYED WITH IT!!
THEY HAVE MAJORITY
THEY COULDA PASSED THIS ON REGULAR VOTE,, AND KINDA THEY DID,, THEY HAD THE NUMBERS
But they didnt want amendments added to it,,, or debated
so they increased the NUMERS required to pass it
REPUBLICANS CANT DO THAT,,
WE WERE THE MINORITY,,, AND STILL ARE,,,currently

they have two majorities and the executive,,
AND THEY CANT GET THIS SPENDING THROUGH?!?!?
‘COZ OF LITTLE OL’ REPUBLICANS?!?
YOU BELIEVE THAT CHIT?

Laurence Glavin: You’re terrible!

Pastor John Hagee Scandal – Heresy, Fraud, Adultery and HateJohn Hagee married the woman he cheated on his wife with and immediately became the pastor of another congregation- the Cornerstone Church in San Antonio …
http://www.blog.joelx.com/pastor-john-hagee…church…/910/ – Cached – Similar

Atticus Draco: Then punish the Democrats (and Republicans if you wish) but not the 911 first responders.

Atticus Draco said:
I’M PISSED BECAUSE,,
both sides of this issue are NOT being aired
and whats being aired is focused ,, or directed to our emotions,, rather our common sense
SHEP has bitched about this a couple times now,,
and has NEVER given the opposition any VOICE!
“OH HE’S JUST BLOCKING IT”
well he has a reason for blocking it
and he didnt get off his dead ass to find out why!
“This kinda politics is bad”
UP YOURS SHEP!

And you have the audacity to talk about having “sense” and “emotions”. Sense is one thing you know nothing about and your emotions run the whole damn show. This is what we call projection. And being a moron.

printbrat said:
Atticus Draco: Then punish the Democrats (and Republicans if you wish) but not the 911 first responders.

Wait ’till next year,, their needs will be attended to

@printbrat,

As a christian, I am glad you put that info up regarding Hagee, I have alot of issues with him. But I am also glad you pointed that out for another reason. I am guessing that you would never give “one” red cent to him? What if he had a bunch of kids living in poverty asking for help? Would that change your mind? I doubt that and I wouldnt blame you, because you have the feeling that the money will not truly go there based on the fallacious history with Hagee. I sense the same thing going on here with our government. I would never consider you to be a heartless bastard or extremely cruel, so I don’t think its right to paint the opposition as such.

Atticus Draco said:
Wait ’till next year,, their needs will be attended to

They’re dying you spermatory, there is no waiting. I hope you get cancer just so we can all tell you to go fuck yourself when you ask for medicine. Fucking waste of space.

LeviCoult said:
And you have the audacity to talk about having “sense” and “emotions”. Sense is one thing you know nothing about and your emotions run the whole damn show. This is what we call projection. And being a moron.

i’m NOT appealing to anybody’s emotions or senses,,,
i dont give a chit if you get it or NOT
i’m just making sure it gets said!

LeviCoult said:
They’re dying you spermatory, there is no waiting. I hope you get cancer just so we can all tell you to go fuck yourself when you ask for medicine. Fucking waste of space.

AGAIN,,, it’s NOT MY FAULT
go call your congressman,, it more than likely a LIB,,
it wont be like that next year though!

Atticus Draco said:
AGAIN,,, it’s NOT MY FAULT
go call your congressman,, it more than likely a LIB,,
it wont be like that next year though!

Bitch it makes no difference to me what label the person holds who DENIES MEDICINE TO HEROES, it’s being denied by a Republican in this case and you’re here defending him on grounds that “we don’t know if the bill is good enough”, which DOES make it partly your fault.

Atticus Draco said:
‘
THERE’S MORE TO IT THAN JUST HANDING OUT CHECKS TO 1ST RESPONDERS!!!!

Wow. Imbecile alert.

LeviCoult said:
Bitch it makes no difference to me what label the person holds who DENIES MEDICINE TO HEROES, it’s being denied by a Republican in this case and you’re here defending him on grounds that “we don’t know if the bill is good enough”, which DOES make it partly your fault.

GOOD THEN
OH HOW I WISH THAT WAS TRUE!
IF it was my responsibility,,, I’D MAKE SURE I’D GET THE GDAM THING DONE
AND GET IT DONE RIGHT!!!
I’d say WHOA!
i got a bunch of libs to deal with her
THIS OUGHTTA BE EASY
THEY’LL SPEND MONEY FOR ANY DAMN THING!!!

PUT MY NAME ON THE BILL,, ‘COZ I’M GETTING THIS f’er THROUGH!!
LOL

Jay Velez: wth?

Tell me again about FAUX NEWZ, the GOP PROPAGANDA outlet.

Fair, balanced and unafraid.

LeviCoult said:
Bitch it makes no difference to me what label the person holds who DENIES MEDICINE TO HEROES, it’s being denied by a Republican in this case and you’re here defending him on grounds that “we don’t know if the bill is good enough”, which DOES make it partly your fault.

So you’d be all for a bill that provides free aspirin for first responders and billion dollar checks to corporate CEO’s? Put your thinking cap on, Levi. This isn’t that complicated.

Pablo said:
Tell me again about FAUX NEWZ, the GOP PROPAGANDA outlet.

Fair, balanced and unafraid.

LOL,, did ya see Colby with Shep yesterday,,, and Shep’s Freudian slip about political affiliations?
LOL.. WILL THE REAL SHEP PLZ STAND UP

@printbrat,

lol, I’m simply making the point that people would be reserved or hesitant to give a man like Hagee money for anything, no matter how “heartugging” the issue is. Because he has a history of fraud and mistrust. So why the animosity towards people who are hesitant of giving this congress anymore money even if the cause is legit, when questions are not answered and the government has a history of fraud and lack of accountability?

Atticus Draco said:
LOL,, did ya see Colby with Shep yesterday,,, and Shep’s Freudian slip about political affiliations?
LOL.. WILL THE REAL SHEP PLZ STAND UP

OR for that matter

Shep to Colby:Merry Christmas
COLBY,,, RIGHT BACK AT YA!

LMAO!!!
Colby’s so hip
try “ditto” next time Colby!

Pablo said:
So you’d be all for a bill that provides free aspirin for first responders and billion dollar checks to corporate CEO’s? Put your thinking cap on, Levi. This isn’t that complicated.

No I wouldn’t. This bill doesn’t do that. Do you guys ever stop to think that other people actually KNOW WHAT’S IN THE BILL? Why do you assume that just because YOU don’t know what’s in the bill, that I don’t? The fist bill was supposed to close a corporate Tax loophole for FOREIGN companies to pay for itself. Republicans didn’t like that. Now they revised it to “charge a fee on foreign countries”, and again, this is what YOU’RE fighting for. This is why every time I call you guys Morons and Idiots, it’s not just an insult, but rather me simply stating facts.

Jay Velez: Gotcha. It’s broken, I know. But we can’t punish the 911 first responders for our lack of fixing our government… it’s broken, I know.

Fact: Saudi Arabia should pay for the Terrorist Muslims from their hate the non-Muslim schools that killed people on 9/11. Clean up crew guys having broom nightmares are not my hero’s and don’t get money from me maybe you. There are jobs all over America that have people doing things for the betterment of all peoples and they are in the same boat as those New Yorkers that got sick on unhealthy items in the dust. When and where does the money tree quit growing fruit for the take? The police and firemen that insurance claims are denied should get funds not the union clean up guy that thought he was hot wearing PPE equipment so he took it off or didn’t ask for it from his union handlers that pocketed the funds! General funds are availible now being used on them as we speak but lets just give anyone a couple of billion funds just because it’s the politically correct thing to do a hero is a hero right! Save the cat high in a tree from falling and earn health care funds!

LeviCoult said:
No I wouldn’t. This bill doesn’t do that. Do you guys ever stop to think that other people actually KNOW WHAT’S IN THE BILL? Why do you assume that just because YOU don’t know what’s in the bill, that I don’t? The fist bill was supposed to close a corporate Tax loophole for FOREIGN companies to pay for itself. Republicans didn’t like that. Now they revised it to “charge a fee on foreign countries”, and again, this is what YOU’RE fighting for. This is why every time I call you guys Morons and Idiots, it’s not just an insult, but rather me simply stating facts.

OH,, if you knew what was in the BILL,, you’d be btchin’ about too!
“You’re gonna TAX WHAT to PAY FOR THIS?!?!?”
Yeah you would!!

Fact: Please post link to bill so I wil know whats in it?

Atticus Draco said:
OH,, if you knew what was in the BILL,, you’d be btchin’ about too!
“You’re gonna TAX WHAT to PAY FOR THIS?!?!?”
Yeah you would!!

“You’re NOT providing coverage to WHO,, YOU CANT ELIMINATE THEM!!!”
OH,,, you’d be btchin’ about this one
I’ll bet on it!

Fact: Trust me guys it’s Just4thefax just sign this bill here! It’s worth every penny that it gives to whom I consider a hero. Really!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Please post link to bill so I wil know whats in it?

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-2441

Fact: I haven’t read the fucker but I know it’s good! Nancy Pelosi tells me so!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Saudi Arabia should pay for the Terrorist Muslims from their hate the non-Muslim schools that killed people on 9/11. Clean up crew guys having broom nightmares are not my hero’s and don’t get money from me maybe you. There are jobs all over America that have people doing things for the betterment of all peoples and they are in the same boat as those New Yorkers that got sick on unhealthy items in the dust. When and where does the money tree quit growing fruit for the take? The police and firemen that insurance claims are denied should get funds not the union clean up guy that thought he was hot wearing PPE equipment so he took it off or didn’t ask for it from his union handlers that pocketed the funds! General funds are availible now being used on them as we speak but lets just give anyone a couple of billion funds just because it’s the politically correct thing to do a hero is a hero right! Save the cat high in a tree from falling and earn health care funds!

They are already paying the salaries of your heroes on Fox, including Sarah.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Please post link to bill so I wil know whats in it?

I don’t know what good that will do, you wouldn’t comprehend a word of it anyway. Cross burning tonight?

Republicans do not believe that all Americans are economically viable. They ration help to who they think deserve it.

Life or death doesn’t matter, what matters is what have you done for me lately.

GOP death panel.

Fact: General Omnibus bill of 1968 applies to any first responders and all family members under their care on any thing they feel that they have a claim for. It is just a draft of what was considered and can be presented as a bill that’s it! Sorry this was a no sale! Need specifics on 9/11 responders hurt in 2001 only to meet their needs not paying for anyone across the country as a grab bag first come first serve!

Fact: Hey they still accept game room tokens at the mall skyfet go play!

Atticus Draco said:
i have a problem with ANYTHING being shoved down our fiscal throats bud!!!
Those two idiots are pushing solely on EMOTIONS rather than what the hell is in the bill
IT HAS the words GOVT. HEALTH COMPENSATION
That’s ALL SHEP AND JON ARE CONCERNED ABOUT!

were you concerned when the wars were signed? Wars cost money, just like spending bills. Were you concerned when tax cuts were passed? I am sure you know tax cuts cost money, and none of the recent tax cuts (including bush tax cuts) weren’t even paid for…

If the answer for both of these questions is yes, then you are really concerned about fiscal spending, if not then you just hate democrats.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: General Omnibus bill of 1968 applies to any first responders and all family members under their care on any thing they feel that they have a claim for. It is just a draft of what was considered and can be presented as a bill that’s it! Sorry this was a no sale! Need specifics on 9/11 responders hurt in 2001 only to meet their needs not paying for anyone across the country as a grab bag first come first serve!

lol glad to know where you really stand on this. That is all you had to say, “I don’t really give a fuck about them”. That’s a respectable position, a little inhumane but at least you’re finally honest, instead of pretending to be some American patriot. I hope the rest of the party jumps on the bandwagon of rare honesty so the sheeple out there finally get a clue who the real villains are.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Saudi Arabia should pay for the Terrorist Muslims from their hate the non-Muslim schools that killed people on 9/11. Clean up crew guys having broom nightmares are not my hero’s and don’t get money from me maybe you. There are jobs all over America that have people doing things for the betterment of all peoples and they are in the same boat as those New Yorkers that got sick on unhealthy items in the dust. When and where does the money tree quit growing fruit for the take? The police and firemen that insurance claims are denied should get funds not the union clean up guy that thought he was hot wearing PPE equipment so he took it off or didn’t ask for it from his union handlers that pocketed the funds! General funds are availible now being used on them as we speak but lets just give anyone a couple of billion funds just because it’s the politically correct thing to do a hero is a hero right! Save the cat high in a tree from falling and earn health care funds!

Do you realize that we pay Saudi Arabia millions everyday in oil trade??

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Hey they still accept game room tokens at the mall skyfet go play!

FACT: You are a racist and everyone should understand that.

Atticus Draco said:
i have a problem with ANYTHING being shoved down our fiscal throats bud!!!Those two idiots are pushing solely on EMOTIONS rather than what the hell is in the billIT HAS the words GOVT. HEALTH COMPENSATIONThat’s ALL SHEP AND JON ARE CONCERNED ABOUT!

Amazing how you can read their minds. And in all capital letters!

Try this: YOU DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO RESPONDED AFTER 9/11. I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF YOU EVEN CARED ABOUT BENEFITS FOR OUR VETERANS.

Those caps OK for you?

Atticus Draco said:
THIS IS THE PROBLEMsomeone has appealed to your emotions rather than your senses!THERE IS REAL OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL,, AND IT BECAUSE THEY HATE RESCUE WORKERS!!Or for that matter SPENDING THE MONEY,, it’s a lousy 6.2 B now,, reduced from 7.4(?)but i;m very confident you dont know why there is opposition to this!!!‘COZ it hasnt been reported,, ESPECIALLY NOT HERE,, OR ON SHEP’S SHOW OR JON’S

Amazing how you can sit on your butt at home, all comfy cozy, and not give a damn about those first responders who are sick. You spend all day on Mediaite, and mostly spew hate.

LeviCoult said:
No I wouldn’t. This bill doesn’t do that. Do you guys ever stop to think that other people actually KNOW WHAT’S IN THE BILL? Why do you assume that just because YOU don’t know what’s in the bill, that I don’t?

When did I do that? And when did I say I don’t know what’s in the bill? (Hint: I didn’t.)

LeviCoult said:
lol glad to know where you really stand on this. That is all you had to say, “I don’t really give a fuck about them”. That’s a respectable position, a little inhumane but at least you’re finally honest, instead of pretending to be some American patriot. I hope the rest of the party jumps on the bandwagon of rare honesty so the sheeple out there finally get a clue who the real villains are.

Fact: That was a draft that’s it! Not specific! The facts remain the same. Show me the real Bill and it will get a real answer! I would not sign the one you posted it’s to open for cradle to grave abusers! I’d pay for real people with real problems in real cases that are justified!

James Nelson said:
Amazing how you can sit on your butt at home, all comfy cozy, and not give a damn about those first responders who are sick. You spend all day on Mediaite, and mostly spew hate.

Fact: Like you puff!

Fact: Not one person on this thread has any idea what’s in the bill! The real bill! Hey lets load this one up with pork to it’s a popular one to do it and get it thru! No one has read it! hahahahahaha…

Atticus Draco said:
Yesterday he called out ever single GOP lawmaker by name who turned down a request to join him on his show. Today? It was Senator Tom Coburn who drew Shep’s ire.

Atticus Draco said:
I’M PISSED BECAUSE,,
both sides of this issue are NOT being aired
and whats being aired is focused ,, or directed to our emotions,, rather our common sense
SHEP has bitched about this a couple times now,,
and has NEVER given the opposition any VOICE!
“OH HE’S JUST BLOCKING IT”
well he has a reason for blocking it
and he didnt get off his dead ass to find out why!
“This kinda politics is bad”
UP YOURS SHEP!

hey atticus…pay attention in class…it’s the repub. senators who didn’t get off there dead asses after shep invited them on to the show to give their side of the argument…and you who didn’t get off your dead ass to find this out!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Not one person on this thread has any idea what’s in the bill! The real bill! Hey lets load this one up with pork to it’s a popular one to do it and get it thru! No one has read it! hahahahahaha…

Maybe not but we do know that you are a racist.

the first quote was from colby’s article.

Atticus Draco said:
I’M PISSED BECAUSE,,
both sides of this issue are NOT being aired
and whats being aired is focused ,, or directed to our emotions,, rather our common sense
SHEP has bitched about this a couple times now,,
and has NEVER given the opposition any VOICE!
“OH HE’S JUST BLOCKING IT”
well he has a reason for blocking it
and he didnt get off his dead ass to find out why!
“This kinda politics is bad”
UP YOURS SHEP!

Well, sir, you have the floor please tell us now why they’re blocking it.

Not one person on this thread has any idea what’s in the bill! The real bill! Hey lets load this one up with pork to it’s a popular one to do it and get it thru! No one has read it!

Thats not a fact thats just a lie.

Michael Craig Brokenburr said:
Not one person on this thread has any idea what’s in the bill! The real bill! Hey lets load this one up with pork to it’s a popular one to do it and get it thru! No one has read it! Thats not a fact thats just a lie.

Fact: Link please! Show me it’s a lie!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Not one person on this thread has any idea what’s in the bill! The real bill! Hey lets load this one up with pork to it’s a popular one to do it and get it thru! No one has read it! hahahahahaha…

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-847

Michael Craig Brokenburr said:
Not one person on this thread has any idea what’s in the bill! The real bill! Hey lets load this one up with pork to it’s a popular one to do it and get it thru! No one has read it!

Thats not a fact thats just a lie.

someone else not paying attention in class…if you’re gonna comment at least show a little respect and show some interest…c’mon guys

LeviCoult said:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-2441

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Link please! Show me it’s a lie!

You are a racist piece of shit.

i even read the dribble that spews out of justfax’s computer. (jk dude)

ChiliPeppersFan said:
someone else not paying attention in class…if you’re gonna comment at least show a little respect and show some interest…c’mon guys

No no he’s right, the first link I posted wasn’t current. Listen, if he’s ACTUALLY interested in finding out facts for a change I’m all for it. I’m not going fight anyone who is willing to learn something… even if they seem to be batshit crazy…. for now.

“Except for maybe Jon Stewart, no one else has been out ahead of the 9/11 First-Responders Bill story as Fox News Shepard Smith. ”

Except for Rachel Maddow and anyone over an MSNBC. Colby we know that FOX pays you to come on as “contributor” but try to make your pandering a little less obvious in the future. Your just embarassing yourself.

LeviCoult said:
No no he’s right, the first link I posted wasn’t current. Listen, if he’s ACTUALLY interested in finding out facts for a change I’m all for it. I’m not going fight anyone who is willing to learn something… even if they seem to be batshit crazy…. for now.

that’s one of the things i love about this site, even if you disagree with someone you are usually able to get more information about a subject and both sides of the argument.
obviously i’m a hard core progressive liberal , but i take the time to read all the posts because i believe it makes me a better person to hear both sides of the debate before i comment.
i might disagree with a lot of the posts, but there a truly some intelligent people on this site.

LeviCoult said:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-847

Fact: Thanks it should be signed! No problems with it! Just4thefax Approved fact!

ChiliPeppersFan said:
i even read the dribble that spews out of justfax’s computer. (jk dude)

Fact: You’re an asshole and didn’t make the case on this one just babbled! Fuck off worm!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Thanks it should be signed! No problems with it! Just4thefax Approved fact!

Whoa. Did this really just happen? Thank you for actually looking at facts.

LeviCoult said:
batshit crazy

Fact: That’s Mr.Batshit Crazy to some around here! Thanks again!

LeviCoult said:
No no he’s right, the first link I posted wasn’t current. Listen, if he’s ACTUALLY interested in finding out facts for a change I’m all for it. I’m not going fight anyone who is willing to learn something… even if they seem to be batshit crazy…. for now.

i believe this is the bill that is in the senate that republicans are blocking.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-2885

ChiliPeppersFan said:
i believe this is the bill that is in the senate that republicans are blocking.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s111-2885

Nah it’s bill 847 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-847).. it says, last action: Dec 9, 2010: Motion by Senator Reid to reconsider the vote by which cloture was not invoked on the motion to proceed to the bill (Roll Call Vote No. 269) made in Senate.

LeviCoult said:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-847

Beat me to it

Just4thefax said:
Fact: You’re an asshole and didn’t make the case on this one just babbled! Fuck off worm!

of course i made my point…that lazy bastard atticus said that shep didn’t get off his ass to interview the republicans blocking the vote on this bill and i showed him that he did invite every republican on his show.

he called out every senator that turned him down.
btw, cheer up dude…it was all in jest.

Just4thefax said:
Fact: That’s Mr.Batshit Crazy to some around here! Thanks again!

You are a racist piece of shit.

ChiliPeppersFan said:
that’s one of the things i love about this site, even if you disagree with someone you are usually able to get more information about a subject and both sides of the argument.
obviously i’m a hard core progressive liberal , but i take the time to read all the posts because i believe it makes me a better person to hear both sides of the debate before i comment.
i might disagree with a lot of the posts, but there a truly some intelligent people on this site.

Yea mediaite is starting to grow on me too. I like the fact that there are “regulars” here, plus I like talking smack and it’s a prefect venue lol

LeviCoult said:
Nah it’s bill 847 (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-847).. it says, last action: Dec 9, 2010: Motion by Senator Reid to reconsider the vote by which cloture was not invoked on the motion to proceed to the bill (Roll Call Vote No. 269) made in Senate.

thank you for that, i’m glad you pointed that out.

Can someone explain why the vote earlier this year failed? I realize it required a 2/3 majority, but if this is now such a no brainier, why did most republicans vote no back then?

Atticus Draco said:
i have a problem with ANYTHING being shoved down our fiscal throats bud!!!Those two idiots are pushing solely on EMOTIONS rather than what the hell is in the billIT HAS the words GOVT. HEALTH COMPENSATIONThat’s ALL SHEP AND JON ARE CONCERNED ABOUT!

Emotions? Bills shoved down our fiscal throats?

Yeah, it’s called 9/11/2001 and our “emotions” over that caused a truckload of fiscal irresponsibility.

FACT: current GOPers don’t give a crap about our First Responders or a bill to prevent child marriages around the world (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/12/child_marriage_bill_update.html). Richard B. Cheney taught them long, long ago that a soul is an unnecessary object.

Atticus Draco…….are you as stupid as the bullcrap you post on this site??? or are you faking it??? i cant believe that youre complaining about both sides of an issue not being discussed on faux noise…could it be that youre upset that Shep got in your wingnutt overlords butts for obstruction??? I think it is….whats your REAL ISSUE???….let me guess…you hate the BLACK PRESIDENT RIGHT???? or maybe its what I asked you in the beginning….YOURE JUST FLAT OUT STUPID…..GET A FREAKING LIFE

this is a shame that the repubicans that can live with, that is terrible, i’ll side with the democrats on this one

Republicans claim to love America but the truth is that they hate Americans, the working-class kind anyway. They only love the billionaires and millionaires they can give tax breaks too. They talk about 9/11 in hushed tones of reverence but the truth is that by not passing this bill they are telling each of them in effect to “Drop Dead”. Classy.

BelleJour said:
Republicans claim to love America but the truth is that they hate Americans, the working-class kind anyway.

And you hate Republicans, right? Who are totally not American and none of whom work for a living.

cjd ohio 1 said:
this is a shame that the repubicans that can live with, that is terrible, i’ll side with the democrats on this one

Which shows you judge the issues rather than the party, and in my book that’s a good thing.

I’ve said a couple of times that the Dems and indeed the media in general share the blame for not making this a priority much sooner, but for the moment it sure appears to be the GOP on the wrong side of this one.

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The reactionaries lose; the 1st responders finally get what they deserve:

Deal for 9/11 Health Bill Reached in Senate

A deal has been reached in the Senate to approve a bill that
covers the cost of medical care for rescue workers and other
individuals who became sick after breathing in toxic fumes,
dust and smoke at the site of the 2001 attacks on the the
World Trade Center.

The action was a dramatic turn of events for a bill that
stalled in the upper chamber. Only 12 days ago, Senate
Republicans blocked the bill from coming to the floor for a
vote after raising concerns about its $7.4 billion cost.

But Republicans eventually backed down after facing a barrage
of criticism — not just from Democrats but also from
traditional Republican allies, including former New York City
Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and conservative news outlets like
Fox News.

Read More:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/22/deal-for-911-health-bill-reached-in-senate/?emc=na