Author Coleman Hughes Goes Hard Against Joe Rogan For Claiming Israel Is Committing ‘Genocide’ in Gaza
Conservative author Coleman Hughes offered comedian turned podcaster Joe Rogan some stern pushback this week against his recent accusation that Israel is committing “genocide” in Gaza.
Hughes brought up the recent comments from Rogan, saying, “There was one point where you were kind of saying, it’s almost as if the Jews are doing what was done to them, as if it’s genocide.”
Rogan doubled down on the comments, saying, “I’m saying that when you’re killing 30,000 innocent civilians in response to something that killed 1200 innocent civilians, and you’re continuing to bomb an area into oblivion, which is what it looks like when you’re looking at Gaza. There’s many people that have made the argument that that is at least the steps of genocide or a form of genocide. You’re destroying thousands and thousands of people’s homes and killing them.”
Hughes pushed back, “So when you say 30,000 civilians, it’s not 30,000 civilians that have been killed, though.”
“How many thousands have been killed?” Rogan asked.
“So according to Gaza Health Ministry, which is it is run by Hamas, the number they have is 32,000, but they don’t distinguish between Hamas and civilians,” Hughes replied
“How many members of Hamas are there?” Rogan asked.
“40, 50, 40,000, something like that. I don’t think the number is known, but it’s tens of thousands,” replied Hughes, adding:
So Hamas says 32,000 people have been killed, civilians and soldiers. Israel says 13,000 soldiers have been killed by Israel. So if you just being well, let’s not doubt either number. They could both be inflated. But but but if both of those numbers are accurate, which I may or may not be, that would be 13,000 soldiers killed, 19,000 civilians killed. Which for urban combat in the Middle East is a very normal ratio.
“I see what you’re saying. If you wanted to look at it cold and objectively,” Rogan shot back as Hughes objected, “I hope it doesn’t come across cold because…”
Rogan cut in saying, “But it’s mostly women and children that are dying, that are that are dying because they’re in a place where these terrorists are.”
“Because the terrorists on purpose embed themselves with the civilian population, which is a war crime,” Hughes replied.
“Which is a strategy that they have clearly employed when you see them. And when when the IDF went into that hospital and found… So it’s real. It’s not just a conspiracy theory. We know that that’s real. But it’s still you’re still talking about 20,000, whatever it is of innocent people getting bombed into the Stone Age. And then there’s this, like, what are the pressures that are being put on people that are trying to deliver aid? How difficult is it?” Rogan asked.
“So my understanding of the aid issue, and I’ve looked into it quite a bit, is that the aid is getting into Gaza. They’ve gotten over a quarter [million] tons of food into Gaza since the beginning of the war, which is pretty similar to the food that was getting in,” Hughes replied, adding:
The problem is, it’s not getting to the people, and especially in the North, because the North is a war zone. So it’s getting through the border. Israel’s allowing it in. But then what happens is the IDF doesn’t control the delivery. The delivery is controlled by humanitarian organizations like UNNWRA and just other a whole bevy of humanitarian organizations. And they have these aid convoys going to people, but then Hamas hijacks it. Random gangs of people, Palestinians hijack it, hungry civilians hijack it. And it’s an absolute mess in terms of distributing the aid. And that’s why, you see, and there was a problem in the war in Iraq, too.
Hughes later summed up his position on the war, saying, “I agree with all of the the absolute tragedy and suffering of the Palestinian people, but it’s what, what creates that is the way Hamas fights. And either we can say one of two things. We can either say, well, Israel just Israel doesn’t have a clean shot. And so they have to let Hamas get away with it because it’s too much to bear.”
He concluded, “But then we are essentially creating a situation where terrorists have found the perfect solution, which is that you can cross the border, go house to house, slaughtering your enemies, and then hide behind your own people, and they can do nothing about it. It’s a perfect strategy. Can we live in a world where we allow that to be an acceptable strategy? I don’t think so. And it’s very it’s very ugly to watch. It’s a heartbreaking. And I completely understand why people don’t think the way I think when they see the videos. I completely get it. But I don’t think we can actually” let Hamas get away with it.
Watch the clip above via The Joe Rogan Experience.
