MSNBC Ousts Pat Buchanan: Are His Views Different Now? Or Just MSNBC’s?

Buchanan is as extreme as he’s always been.  I remember being amazed when he ran for President and actually received votes.  As the article suggests, obviously this is MSNBC protecting their liberal slant.  Liberals insist on shutting down alternative views or extreme personal attacks of those who dare question their idols, just check the posts on this site.  

When the most liberal, most partisan Senator was elected President, the constant cheering from MSNBC became deafening. The newspeople push back against any slight of Obama during the few hours of straight news. It is sickening to see, and Tim Russert would be pained to see what NBC has become.

The opinion shows, I imagine, are unwatchable ( don’t even peek in). Hiring a guy like Al Sharpton kind of put the icing on this rancid cake.

Pat is likely out because Obama wanted him off the air. Obama wants only praise and tribute to his holy name.

Really?   

“On the other hand, MSNBC has changed. It openly courts Progressive views and news.”

What Hot-Tub Time Machine did you just climb out of?

MSNBC – The Place For Liberals Only Politics.

Obama called Griffin and said, “Don’t have Pat on anymore.”?  Really?

Even you can’t be that delusional.

I’m a liberal democrat who is not happy about Al Sharpton and his show on MSNBC. I’m equally unhappy about Pat Buchanan’s ouster, especially when I’ve been watching him on other political shows for decades. Decades ago, Al Sharpton was racial zealot and I don’t forgive him for stirring up the many, unfounded racial controversies in the past few decades for his personal ambitions and self-interests. Has he suddenly become respectable or is MSNBC merely trying to reach a certain ratings demographic through Al Sharpton? I’m disappointed that MSNBC chose that track.  Pat Buchanan, on the other hand, has been an unapologetic, far-to-the-right, conservative. I disagree with Pat Buchanan on everything, but I respect him for what he stands for. That he is a xenophobic, delusional, racially intolerant nutcase is besides the point. He provides the balance necessary for us progressive, liberals to remind us why we are what we are.

From a part time contributor that contributed little on a good day to nothing on a bad day?

How does firing him “protect” them from anything?  

Pat needs to find a larger, more receptive audience. He was wasting his time at MSNBC.

This was obviously a network decision and they felt there was only room for one anti-semite and they gave him the 6 o’clock hour.

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Why is this written in the first person if no one’s name is attached to it?

Lets see WHITE MALE, RACIST OUT OF JOB,  CAN  FOX NEWS OFFER OF A JOB  BE FAR BEHIND….

I’ll stick with golddiggersRus.com.

The extreme leftists in the blogosphere pressured MSNBC, led by the 911-truther and former communist Van Jones. These are people who genuinely believe that those who disagree with them aren’t just wrong but evil; and therefore any means of fighting them is justified. Another problem with Buchanan is that he’s an articulate and congenial fellow and the lefties don’t want anyone to hear Pat make his arguments about the downside of massive demographic transformation in the West. The left has been working on this for decades.

DailyKos, MediaMatters,  and other liberal cesspools were in a tizzy demanding he be fired the last time he wrote a book.  Firing him protects MSNBC from losing another 6 or so extreme liberal viewers (5% of their audience).  In Mao’s China or the Sovet Union they’d just shoot those who question those in power (still happens at least in Russia), thankfully America hasn’t reached the point when liberals have that much power, though Obama did just push for and sign legislation to detain you indefinately just because he says so.

Do you think unrestricted third-world immigration and multiculturalism make the US a better place for the people already here? Have you ever had to send your kid to an urban public school where half the students are “English-langauge learners”? Do you have any idea what impact that has on the quality of education for kids who are already there? You claim to be a liberal Democrat, so tell me how this benefits working-class Americans of all colors, or, specifically, black non-college graduates who have to compete for unskilled labor jobs against an onslaught of hungry mexicans? At least, you don’t make apologies for Sharpton.

Shorter Gloves Donahue:
Waah! Waah! I’m a “conservative” scum bag and people are finding out that I’m a “conservative” scum bag!! Waah! Rev. Wright!

Just call him “Lefty”.

Pat Buchanan’s views probably are not that different, but the book  is  an extreme, concentrated expression of them.  It  distills, amplifies,  and focuses racism that was previously more diffuse.

Also, there is a political context here. The Tea Party represents both an effort to mainstream racist views and to portray white voters as  oppressed- the post-Obama narrative that the US has been taken over by blacks and liberals.  This narrative is very polarizing.  It  has  forced many right thinking people to stand up against this  as  hysteria and insanity.  Buchanan has joined those trying to mainstream racism.   MSNBC has clearly drawn the line against this wingnut hysteria.

I really liked Pat on Morning Joe. He always had the ability to make one think. This is not racial or otherwise, but Pat is absolutely right. White America is disappearing. In interracial marriages, you can’t tell whether the kid is of a white mother or a black mother. If you go to LA, it’s clear that a kid is a product of an Asian and a Latino. People are loosing their true roots. The only thing I disagreed with Pat about was that he thought Sarah Palin would enter the republican primary race and I said back in January, that her hardcore supporters would be disappointed and duped. Can you imagine Sarah Palin on the stage in all these primary debates actually talking about substantive issues, the constitution, etc.There wouldn’t be enough room on her hand to write shit on. She would have made full of herself. The decision to take Pat of the air was rediculous and motivated by management. At least Morning Joe and the Daily Rundown still have some integrity. Once you get to the 5 PM hour it’s nothing more than liberal bias as is with Fox with it’s right wing bias beginning with Megan Kelly.  

Pat Buchanan has been pushing his racist agenda since his days with Nixon and MSNBC is better off without him.

“I haven’t read Pat’s book nor do I have any interest in doing so.”

Quite admirable, Mr. Journalist. You’ll fit in just fine here.

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If you piss off MSNBC core demographic audiences and they start going
nuts, as Color of Change did over Buchanan, you may end up being taken
off the network, whereas five years ago such a tactic probably would not
have succeeded.

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Right. He probably didn’t call Griffin. He probably just texted Mika and had her pass it along.

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But this is not new territory for Pat Buchanan to venture in to. He’s
been on the edge of the paleocon xenophobic spectrum for a long time
and anyone who has followed him even in passing can attest to this.Certainly anyone who has dealt with Pat at MSNBC knows this. Pat has
not changed. He may be a bit more vocal and shrill about it but he
hasn’t changed his positions.

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QFT.

Lean Forward.

Shorter Pablo the Mormon woman:
Wahh! Waah! Those mean leftie commies are pointing at Uncle Pat for his “clear thinking” about the scary brown brown people! Waah! New Black Panther Party! Make them stop!

I once read an interview with Jack Nicholson about the Scorsese Irish mafia movie “The Departed.” In the interview, Nicholson says he himself inserted the “n-word” into his character’s prologue because he wanted people to understand that his sadistic, murderous mafia kingpin character was a REALLY bad guy. LOL.

White America deserves to die and if you mention it at all, you’re a racist.

Or so it seems.

Viva La Raza!

wow.  Sounds like MSNBC is the lefts version of Fox.  Only alot SMARTER!

Yes, Oneo.  kid gloves is most definitely that delusional.  Most of the “conservatives” are really wacked out.  

Yeah, I am sure Pat can find plenty of Klan Rallys at which to speak.

How many people have been thrown off Fox for voicing unapproved views?

Ole!

I think you’ve made excellent use of the adjective “white” in this statement; it conveys important information about the subject. You see, we all know that if Pat were a “black” racist, like Al Sharpton, he’d still have a job.

Don’t forget “AYERS!!!!”  AYERS!  Liberal University of Chicago and Community Organizer!”.  Nice work, SoTex.  Love the conservatard buzz words.  Please excuse my many exclamation points.  New to this site, I am very pleased to find so many erudite and informed liberals and middlers- giving teatards and conservatard as good as they get.

When you do the “shorter” thing, it’s supposed to be shorter, ya silly transgendered pygmy. 

A truly evil little guy.  Always has been.

Good stuff!

Pablo.  moving forward is the only way to progress.  Like it or not…wait, you don’t like that whole progression thing, correct?  Maybe taking us back to the inquisition would be better for our country?

Welcome aboard. There aren’t enough posters here already, on either side, who try to work “retard” into every political insult.

oooohhhh!  The Palin/Buchanan show?  I will set my DVR.  Hopefully it wont explode trying to translate the moronic drivel these two knaves spew forth.

Did you actually read the article or even the headline?

“On the other hand, MSNBC has changed. It openly courts Progressive views and news. ”

As I noted, I would like to know which Hot-Tub Time Machine he climbed out of recently.

Buchanan did not bring much to the table even on a good day.

They have even expanded their Saturday coverage to include Chris Hayes and now Melissa Harris Parry (sp?).  

I do prefer the round-about vs. the single host.  It allows me to check a column, an article, or God forbid a book that this person has written.

crickets…

How can you tell?

The TEA PARTY is no such thing………..that is exactly why we have so many wonderful black people in it!  The  MSN audience on the other hand promotes racism on all sides.
  We once relied on our own merits, great freedom of speech and conversation as well as good debate to clarify a position or stance. This is no longer an accepted way of communication………we have lost the freedom to speak as we feel, how we feel and why! Unfortunately, under this administration and the MSN audience, we can no longer enjoy the differences and debate the outcome without someone wanting to shut it down.  The violence and profane behavior often comes from that very source.  Yes, right thinking people have only united to a much further “right” position as they see exactly as the leftist side of America is trying hard to silence those who oppose a view. One must however remember, once ANYONE is silenced……………so will you as well!

No, take it further; how many people have been thrown off of Fox for something that did not happen on the air?

Why you mad, chick? Did Shit_Park leave you too soon? Silly teabagging fool! Now go make me a sandwich and be sure that it has plenty of jalapeños!

Buchanan was not on enough to make a difference.

If you have not paying attention to the moves they have made recently (Meghan McCain for F’s sake), this was an obvious move to go younger.

They are going for these Mediaite bites of people, period.  The fragmentation of media is continuing and MSNBC is looking to get that bit of the younger people.

Why do you think they gave Wagner a daily show and Hayes and soon Harrison a show?

But let’s pretend that this is somehow about Buchanan.

he’s just a sock puppet/troll

So the public outcry should be vilified?  Not sure what you are saying here, however- it sounds like the public that watches MSNBC didn’t like him and wanted him gone so the network responded in kind? Am I right?
Remember Alan Colmes?  Fox viewers weren’t to keen on him either and then he was gone. So Fox caters to the RIGHT MSNBC caters to the LEFT. Move along Pablo, nothing new under this sun.

read my reply to Pablo. 

ALAN COLMES???

In order to keep your job at MSNBC you have to kiss Obama’s but.

Obama pushed for the legislation?  Did you see the scoreboard on the vote?

Did you see the “signing statement” about how he wouldn’t enforce that part of the legislation?

You are just this dumb, aren’t you?  Go walk upright for a bit and get back to those of us that have opposable thumbs.

You mean like they used to have debates on Hannity & Colmes or Bernie Goldberg vs Jane Hall on the O’Reiley factor?  

Gosh – no Pat but the Rev Al is ok.  Typical MSNBC….you gotta love and admire and praise hehimself the one, or you lose your job. 

Retard and conservatard are two different things.  My cousin Andy is retarded ( they used to say) or mentally disabled-as they say these days).  Many who post without thorough investigation and cogent points are conservatards, teatards & yup- even libtards.  I’ll be happy to apply it to both sides of the political fence.  Stay tuned! 

thanks patsy!

uhm. what. was. that?

Good luck finding a comment here that’s not from the National Security Administration.

Obama called MSNBC when Halperin called him a ‘Dick.’ I wouldn’t be surprised if the White House was involved in this.

Obama can’t stand it when someone criticizes him – he’s the most narcissistic, arrogant guy ever. Remember when he first got elected and he constantly complained about FOX News and sent out his communications directors to try and silence FOX News? 

“Fox News Audience Just 1.38% Black
Fox News may be the undisputed ratings champion in cable news, but not among black viewers.
The New York Times’ Brian Stelter tweeted that, according to Nielsen
Media Research, Fox News has averaged just 29,000 black viewers in
primetime so far this television season (9/09-7/10). That represents
just 1.38% of its 2.102 million total viewer audience.“http://www.mediaaccess.org/2010/07/fox-news-audience-just-1-38-black/ I think we have found a natural home for Pat Buchanan.

–Cobra

Generally, I don’t think blacks spend a lot of time watching news anyway. And those that do are going to watch the news that endorses their world view.

they supposed to force black people to watch? how many members of the naacp are white, dumbass?

How many people get invited on Fox who aren’t towing the party line and willing to lie and distort to do it?

Really?  Running for President entails the narcissism aspect and a bit of the masochist persona, unless you are Nixon, who was a sadomasochist.

Not having interviews with Fox News is not silencing it.

Romney will make a great candidate, with skin thinner than the wrapping of a bon-bon.  All I can think of is Ross Perot.

You need to familiarize yourself with the Latin phrase petitio principii.

how many members of the naacp are white, dumbass?

HA

You should stick to outburts of Patsy and Sockpuppet.
You just made his point for him.

FOX=NAAWP

What happened with that guy… what’s his name… Beck? 

They also fired Marc Hill in 2009 because he allegedly defended “cop killers.” Only recently have they brought him back as a guest, not a regular analyst: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/fox-news-fires-liberal-pundit-52396

Are you making a lame attempt to suggest there aren’t debates on Hannity (panel  segment especially) or O’Reilly?

r u really that dumb, patsy?

But it’s neither witty nor original. You should strive for better,

So, they decided to go younger at the very time Buchanan released his book and Color of Change started freaking out on them. Right.

That Sharpton is a real up and comer, isn’t he?

lol……why do I always find you defending the racist?

Buchanan says that blacks like me should be discriminated against by taxi drivers since some blacks have killed taxi drivers in NY. You support that dont you?

Skyfet- spot on!  
Nietz: I am currently on maternity leave from my job and have spent some eye glazing time watching much of MSNBC and Fox.  While I am not a Sharpton fan or a Chris Matthews fan- I find that both Rachel Maddow and more recently Chris Hayes have been very forthcoming on their views, where they stand and urge the viewership to dig deeper into research and learn more beyond what has been presented.
On Fox -perhaps with some minor and occasional exceptions on the part of Bill O’Reilly and Shep Smith- the hosts excoriate and vilify anything other than their views while claiming be “fair and balanced”.  you will be hard pressed to find multiple opposing views on the many Fox “news” shows. 
You are most definitely an intellect on this post so I would recommend watching Rachel Maddow.  She invites and interviews many guests with opposing views as she can and treats them fairly.  When they get caught in lies or are exposed for whatever reason, they blame her for being a lefty/communist/marxist(insert latest scary buzzword here). But she gives them a chance to really explain themsleves.  She had Rand Paul on at one point and I thought, wow- he’s not as crazy as I thought!
 She is an thoughtful and refreshing intellect and should be watched.
I guess I worry about the anti- intellectualism/ anti education dogma that permeates the right and feel that attitude has leaked into the show set at Fox. 

Always the victim with these “conservatives” today.

Colmes isn’t gone. He’s just gone from Hannity and Colmes and that’s because he wanted to be. He’s still on Fox all the time, and he’s still doing a radio show for them.

“Alan Samuel Colmes (born September 24, 1950) is an American radio/television host, liberal political commentator for the Fox News Channel, and blogger. He is the host of The Alan Colmes Show, a nationally syndicated talk-radio show distributed by Fox News Radio that also airs throughout the United States on Fox News Talk on Sirius and XM.”

Colmes was not fired.

What happened with that guy… what’s his name… Beck?

He left to start his own empire.

How many people get invited on Fox who aren’t towing the party line and willing to lie and distort to do it?

That’s an odd question. Does Debbie Wasserman-Schultz qualify or not?

So he has his own show on FOX?  Neat!  I hear him on WCPT progressive talk here in Chicago.  He’s smart.  I haven’t seen him on Fox.  Wonder if he is able to express his views as much as Buchanan did?  Can you give me some examples of Colmes on Fox “all the time”?  Thanks!

Ok, there’s Benjamin Jealous….

Seriously?  So I am speaking in circles?  Am I not making a point in my comments?
  Gratias ago pro vestra prudentia. 

But its Funny!  Witty and original are overrated.  

Oh and ESL students make up about 1 in 4.  That number is growing but right now its slightly less than 25%.

Wow, that should be a form you can buy at the Ben Franklin store. A fill-in the blank.

“Generally, I don’t think_________spend a lot of time watching news anyway. And those that do are going to watch the news that endorses their world view.

Here is my 10 list for the blank:
damn attorneys
Japanese school girls
tea partiers
communists
ron paul supporters
mitt romney’s staff
sane people
priests or ministers, not to mention rabbis, sufis, or holy rollers
bloggers…

Southerners

I love it when uninformed morons accuse other people of being dumb. Somehow you must have missed this one at DailyKos. Obama plays you idiots like a fiddle:

Cenk ON FIRE Over Obama Pushing for Military Detention of Americans. “Can’t Vote for Him!”

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I’ve never seen Cenk (The Young Turks) this way, this is one of the
most impassioned, concise presentations I’ve seen not just from him, but
from anyone.  Cenk talks about finding out that it was Obama who requested that a provision be removed which exempted American citizens from being subject to indefinite military detention,
without charge or trial, which was in the Senate Armed Services
Committee’s original version of NDAA (National Defense Authorization
Act.)  Sen. Carl Levin announced on the Senate floor that the very
language he was being asked to approve was requested by the president.

Rep. Tom McClintock spoke
on the floor of the House of the final bill, and cut best through the
gimmickry used to fool people into thinking this did not apply to
Americans, gimmickry Rep. Justin Amash called “carefully crafted to mislead the public.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/20/1047327/-Cenk-ON-FIRE-Over-Obama-Pushing-for-Military-Detention-of-Americans-Cant-Vote-for-Him!

MSNBC becoming more pathetic each week. The no longer drink the Obama kool aid they suck it down entirely.

Senator Levin: “I wonder whether the senator is familiar with the fact
that the language [in the National Defense Authorization Act] which
precluded the application of section 1031 to American citizens was in
the bill that we originally approved in the Armed Services Committee,
and the administration asked us to remove the language which says that
US citizens and Lawful residents would not be subject to this section?”

They do not actually post here, they just monitor anyone who uses large type.

Quote him saying that. Good luck, racist.

@
Nietzschean. Do you have any stats to back up the fact that most blacks don’t watch the news or did you pull that out of your ass. Pat Buchanan should not be on any national TV stations.

 Funny. They have almost every comment here.

You won’t find him saying that because that’s not what he says. What he does say is that it is not surprising that cab drivers are afraid of picking up black males because the large majority of cab driver murders and robberies are perpetrated by black males. Black anger in this case should be directed at their brothers, not cab drivers who are simply trying to make a living and make it home to their families.

The author does not understand the dynamic of commentary which thrives when at least two sides are juxtasupposed against each other. Sure, Pat is a culture warrior from the old school, and by today’s standards he is an old time piece (not always accurate), but how refreshing that he speaks up and says what lots of white people think but do not say, especially among the older crowd. Expression proceeds resolution. Its actually pretty cool listening to Maddow talk him down.

Pat loves to piss liberal people off and he spends lots of time thinking up stuff for that purpose. I mean, the author of the story is having a hard time expressing herself because she has Pat’s hook in her mouth.

You’re making a point but your sort of wasting your energy because most people who disagree with you are not going to get bogged down in a useless internet debate over the meaning of the word “progress”. That’s the only point I was making.

that is why Joe Scarbrough is leaning hard left right now and licking liberal butt….  He is scared to lose his show since he does not sink politically with MSNBC’s far left slant

And fox is demonized for no opposing views… count how many non hard core liberals are on MSNBC now?   cant think of one

LOL. You’re right. But I do recall seeing a study about black viewing habits and recalling a couple of things. Blacks watch several more hours of TV per day than do whites, and mainly sit-coms and music programs.

Yeah, that was it, you paranoid goofball.  Obama lifted the phone and made that call to MSNBC, years after Pat’s been on the air.  Don’t be so stupid, if you can avoid it.

Do those include northeastern cities? I was referring mainly to California, AZ, NM, and Texas. But either way, an increasingly large influx of non-English speaking students is about the last thing poor kids need added to their already substandard educational experience.

I dont think you hear Obama speak much! He daily makes excuses or blames others or seems to act like a victim..

.When is your unqualified community organizer going to take responsibility now that he has been in office 3 years now?

Good for you Pat, you may actually get someone to watch you now instead of being on the Obama network

Nobody.  That’s because they only hire either very soft liberals to feed to those hard-core right wingers.  MSNBC has often had hard conservatives on their schedule, including some that eventually went to Fox.  And while your side likes to play the victim, Phil Donahue was ousted from the MSNBC schedule while having the top-rated show in their primetime lineup, and the reason given was because he was a very vocal opponent to the Iraq War.

I know I switch channels when I see Pat.  I would think others do as well. 

I believe that is probably true. That explains why blacks score higher on the happiness scale than, I guess, their white news watching brethren. This news watching fetish might explain why white people are so stressed out.  

did i mention “nsa agents”?

Uh, no. I think MSNBC is finally fed up – as are their viewers — with Buchanan’s ongoing racist and ugly comments.  

Chucky – no one suggested he be fired for writing a book.  His views are ugly and racist. Sorry if that doesn’t fit with your opinion, but it was the views expressed in his book that was ugly.

What are you, 12?  Rudeboy has a point – you do protect people who say ugly and racially charged things.  Calling a black man racist back b/c you don’t agree with him is just classless.

There’s no denying that Buchanan expounds racist views: http://rollingout.com/politics/pat-buchanan-goes-h-a-m-on-blacks-in-new-book-his-7-most-racist-quotes-ever/  Sorry if these DIRECT QUOTES from the book don’t prove your point that he’s a nice guy .. but facts speak for themselves, facts -you know what they are right?

No, there aren’t … only Hannity and O’Reilly speaking over their guests regardless of facts.

OMG … And I bet you think 9/11 was an inside job.  

Uh, yeah, I believe he and his buddy Pablo can be that delusional.

Um, you’re very very wrong … I think you’re thinking about having to degrade and insult our President to keep a job at Faux News.  When, exactly, did anyone on Faux News apologize or be reprimanded for telling lies and expressing hate?  Need I remind you about Ed Schultz who was suspended for making an ugly comment about Laura Ingraham? It’s also clear that you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about since Maddow, Lawrence, Rev. Al and others have openly disagreed with the President on-air. Unlike Fox News who  genuflect every morning to King Rupert.

She would have made full of herself (?)

Loon Forward!

Oh, the outrage.  An old out-of-touch xenophobe talking head is let go at MSNBC.  Lets see… anywhere in the country you can tune to to 3 to 5 radio stations at the same time playing right wing conservative radio with the likes of Limbaugh, Savage, Levins, Beck, Hannity, etc. Fox News dominates cable news.  Good luck in trying to find a progressive station.  The often complacent Sunday political talk shows on the networks have a ratio of 2:1 of conservatives over progressives on their shows.  In fact, millions of dense fools have been indoctrinated, for years, by charlatans like Rush Limbaugh selling one of the biggest lies perpetuated on the public of the so called liberal media.  So much so that if a right winger hears the truth that goes against what he believes he simply denounces that news source as the “liberal media.”  So much so, that you have too many (over paid) journalists in the corporate news media who have succumbed to the bullying from the right wing talking heads and are complacent and lazy in their reporting for fear of sounding too liberal.  Walter Cronkite would be ashamed.

I find it ironic that the Fascist corporate takeover of America (and the world) that has been going on over the last 30 years coincides with the rise of this extreme right wing rhetoric that tries to pass as mainstream news with Rush Limbaugh leading the way.  It has dominated our landscape for far too long.  Just look at where the conservative movement has gone… right back on the crazy train straight into “Idiot America.” 

So bully pulpit for MSNBC for continuing to evolve in it progressive way while hiring intelligent, thought provoking, sensible people like Chris Hayes and getting rid of out-of-touch old dogmas like Pat Buchanan.  And more power to Free Speech Television and Current TV.  There is hope.

overall U.S  and that 25% number is a projected total for 2020.
In the 2003-2004 school year, there were 3.8 million students studying English as a second language (ESL) in the U.S. This is according to the U.S. National Center for Education Statistics. This number represents 11% of all students for the year. Among all U.S. states, California had the most number of ESL students with 1.6 million. 
Good news though.  Cali had the most.  

>> “On the other hand, MSNBC has changed. It openly courts Progressive views and news. It puts out job ads asking for candidates with a progressive news background. Its pundit host class is all progressive and the network lets them show up en masse at the White House for off the record get togethers.”

The CROCK of this being that Liberals love to b*tch how right-leaning Fox News might be and how they don’t “balance” news stories enough, yet they have absolutely NO problem and never utter a word when a station like MSNBC openly admits to being SO Left leaning — right down to the laughable notion that now they’re even putting out job ads that essentially specify “only progressives need apply.”

So, with that in mind, given the less than subtle turn MSNBC has taken, it was inevitable that someone like Buchanan would be shown the door no matter WHAT the reason. And in the months to come, it’s a sure bet that anyone else who is a right leaning “MSNBC commendatory” (for example, Michael Steele) will only be allowed out of the closet on limited occasions.

Truth be told, the notion of MSNBC showing any balance in any future coverage has long been tossed out the window. Hell, that was evident when they decided to outright pick a side and openly back the Wisconsin unions in that battle, as well as their arms wide open embrace OWS. The additional CROCK of that being all the talking heads at MSNBC echoed the cry that the rich aren’t paying enough taxes…yet then refused to address the fact that G.E. (their corporate parent at the time) didn’t pay a penny — LITERALLY not one single penny — in taxes despite pocketing $32 BILLION in profit.

And I love how their current talking point is how Romney cost people jobs while overseeing Bain, yet every MSNBC commentator never uttered a peep about Jeffrey Immelt likewise cutting jobs. For crying out loud, in his case, it was even WORSE. Romney and Bain trimmed jobs to make companies more financially viable, to allow the companies to stay afloat. In Immelt’s case, he DIDN’T actually CUT the jobs — he simply shipped the work off to China, so he could line his own corporate pockets with even more money. And yet again MSNBC’s hypocritical silence has been deafening.

Bottom line: for 2012, MSNBC has every intent of being “Obama Campaign HQ Televised Live Daily.” And that’s not me just shooting off my mouth. I actually have friends who work at NBC/MSNBC, who are Independents in terms of their own personal politics. And from my chats with them, every single one of them is already rolling their eyes over what’s happening behind the scenes. Which is why I laughed at the hyperlink in this article — noting how the station was openly looking to hire people with only progressive views — since I could have told you that months ago!

Well thought out.  Nicely Put.

Yeah, Patty! You can find a whole mess of racists just like you on FOX “news”!

Ok.  Your point is taken and I apologize for any confusion.  But using the term Petito Princiipii would not represent what you wrote above with regards to my scribe. Perhaps you might want to familiarize yourself with the phrase as well?  Bear in mind- I mean no disrespect but to use the phrase as you did would not apply.  However, your proverb about the road to hell ( Johnson did not coin this old chestnut) is certainly  applicable.
Qumodo latina sicut dolor meus?

No the TPARTY PATRIOTS who want to destroy the SOCIAL SAFETY NET, impoverish the many to enrich the few, and destroy democracy that is uniquely american is supported by the GOP extreme radicals that cannot stand discent. Just look at MI. It is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION with the GOP imposed Emergency financial managers. The GOP gave dictatorial power over the american TAXPAYER DOLLARS without reservation or oversight. THE PARTY NATION in GOP contro wants to suppress voter participation in elections because many of the others are not informed enuf. The GOP is impatient with democracy, it is not efficient enuf. And of course, the FEW WEALTHY have the answers. Libs are surrounded by discent, we encourage other views. CLINTON led the ctry to surplus budgets and JOB creation. The bushies led to deficits, war, torture, job losses and TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION which led to the FIRST AMERICAN REVOLUTION.

Oh, just one other thing for those calling Buchanan a racist and what not…

While I might not agree with some of his stances, the core CONCEPT that he’s bringing up — namely the notion that what used to be “white America” is now losing ground to other ethnic groups, if nothing else by pure numbers alone — IS a cold, hard statistical fact. So, as a pure TOPIC for discussion or debate or whatever, I see no problem with him (or anyone else) bringing the matter up. At which point you can then choose to agree with him…or not…or maybe stake out some ground in the middle. That’s up to you and YOUR personal beliefs.

However, let’s be honest here. It’s also a topic that Progressives — who love the idea of wide open national borders and immigration policies based on sanctuary cities and what not — want to squash as fast as they can, simply because it flies in the face OF their belief in wide open national borders and sanctuary cities and what not.

I mean, as an interesting case example, just look at France. For years, they were openly Left-leaning in terms of immigration policy and as a result they took in tons of Middle Eastern immigrants. But then a few years back, when they had those riots where the Muslim youth went wild and were torching cars for a several week span, it made everyone sit up and take notice. And then they REALLY went wide-eyed when a study was done that revealed in under 12 years there would be MORE transplanted middle eastern Muslims living in France than ACTUAL naturally born French.

At which point, suddenly even the French found themselves becoming more nationalistic and openly asking the question: “Gee, maybe we should take discuss where all of this is leading us as a country.”

Like I said, it can be a worthy topic for debate. In Buchanan’s case, for years, he’s simply spoken his mind on the way HE sees things and I see no problem with that. Hell, no one’s FORCING you to agree with him or to do as he says. But as I said before, Liberals and now MSNBC management — who will always SAY they’re open to topics of debate — simply HATE the idea that someone like Buchanan is even ALLOWED to voice an opinion at all. Which is when they move in and take action to silence any voice that tries to oppose them.

Which is why I just laugh at it all, since once again the Left is just showing what total hypocrites they are. But we all knew THAT already!

lol……read Nietzschean’s comment. What is Buchanan implying from that?

Before we can have a discussion about whether progress is good or bad, we first must agree upon the definition of progress. By the way, I hope you are healthy and your baby is doing well. Don’t let us idiots here on the internets cause you any undue stress! (my wife is a L&D nurse).

They also do better on self-esteem tests. Does this mean I should start watching Tyler Perry movies?

I am always amazed how people like you do a fine job with your stereotypical narrow minded viewpoint attacks on progressives and news outlets like MSNBC while at the same time throwing support to Fox News and right wing commentators like Pat Buchanan… and calling yourself a middle of the road independent thinker.  Your ideal of middle of the road is standing in the middle of the right side of road. 

I mean you criticize Ed Schultz (oh, I mean all of MSNBC including conservative host Joe Scarborough) because he covered the Wisconsin protests and helped bring it to the national light when none of the other networks would cover it?  That is the whole point of “freedom of the press.”  Of course you have Fox News licking the boots of Gov. Scott Walker who is licking the boots of the Koch brothers. And you have the gall to accuse progressives of being hypocrites?  It is hard to be hypocritical when we are throwing it right back in your face. 

Progressives like Schultz and Rachel Maddow have been critical of the president.  They are just not intentionally character assassinating Obama, anyway they can, 24/7, like over at Fox News since his election.  You sound like part of that generation that grew up after Reagan and don’t know a whole lot before Reagan or you are a rich spoiled kid from Hollywood.  Or you are just a bullshitting right wing troll.  Whatever, you and your functioning brain don’t got it.

Hey, I got a good book for you to read that would make a great serious screenplay.  Greg Palast’s, “Vultures’ Picnic:  In Pursuit of Petroleum Pigs, Power Pirates, and High-Finance Carnivores.”  Check it out. 

How is aging, low birth rates, shrinking numbers and genocide of Whites a good thing?

How is extermination of Whites through immigration and assimilation a good thing?

Interracial marriage is good, but how can Whites replace themselves when their births and numbers are collapsing?

Whites are less than 10%, they are the minority in this world, not brown, black or asians.

We should protect the minority…

VALKYRIE,

That was clever and your point made.  Well done.

 However, Fritz (Nietzsche) was unfortunately correct, in his assessment of African American intellect.

The question is why are Black Americans still lagging behind in education?  ["Head Start" was supposed to last one generation, at most!]  It is certainly NOT my fault!  Maybe we could ask Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakhan what they did with the “table of brotherhood?” 

There are two seminal books from 20 years ago: “Why Johnny can’t tell right from wrong,” and “Why Johnny can’t read and write,” by William Kirkpatrick.  [But they were racist nonsense?]

When I examined this issue years ago, I started with Plessy v. Ferguson, and ended up up with Brown v. Board of Education.  I believe BOTH were mis-interpreted and/or applied.

Purveyor

COBRA,

Just a quick note to say howdy.  I always read your posts as they are worth reading.  Aggravating or not!  LOL

Question:  I asked you about a book by Eldridge Clever, “Soul on Ice.”  Have you ever read the book, or heard of it?  That book was my first exposure, (1977) to the “Black Experience” so to speak.  I grew up very near Green Bay Wisconsin, need I say more?  Ouch!

My second experience of any substance with African America, was 1981 when I met a retired NAVY/Marine Corpsman with a chest full of medals.  He was riding his motorcycle and I, mine.  Wesley had just moved in to my “lilly white,” hometown.  His experience in the military seemed to have made him impervious to any negativity in small town Wisconsin.  He was like a Big Brother.  A joy to call him my friend.

Then I moved to Denver, and now Mississippi.  I guess my point is:  Neither you or I can see the world through each others eyes.  To me, racial problems should be, in fact are, almost gone in America,  Rhetorically, what or why are you complaining about?  That is NOT racism, is at worst, naievte’?  

Anyway, typically,you use statistics in alot of your comments to support your assertion(s).  I thought I’d insert a bit of philosophical/humanism for you to consider.  After all, I am a philosopher, such is the way I approach human interaction.  

Do you consider yourself a “philosopher?”

Purveyor

That avatar, I have seen it somewhere?  Green and gold, with a “G,” hmm?  I just can’t place it?  But it looks so familiar…

I grew up 30 miles south of Green Bay

Purveyor

Typically thourough and thoughful.  

Your writing style contains enough objectivity that SHOULDN’T aggravate the reader, rather, allow them to consider your assertion.  However, I am reasonably certain, some readers are… “aggravated”?  Ouch!

Anyway, imagine our Nation without a FOX NEWS, or similar.  FOX has given birth to many “spin offs,” and were it not for FOX, warts and all, the news media would only be, pure propaganda.  Dare I say a virtual “Tass?”

We live in a precarious world and I know there are those who would enjoy FOX’s demise

Purveyor

This is the hipocrisy of the left….They,especially blacks, always talk about this “need” for a national dialogue on race.
The same topics arise…….Reparations,Black unemployment. Then the ridiculous conspiracies such as “the genocide of blacks”(never mind the fact most black murders are black on black). The myth of the “black male” going extinct, and Blacks disappearing. But in reality, Blacks are WAY above the 2.1 replacement birthrate!

What IS FACT and apparently “illegal in some places to speak of”,especially MSNBC, is the true reduction in the worlds white skinned populations(notice, I said White skinned,rather than caucasians) including tannish white skinned Japanese,Koreans,Hell even Puerto Rico in the US, joined Michigan in losing population. Most people don’t realize island Puerto Ricans are majority Mediterranean white,in contrast to the majority mullato and octaroon Puerto Ricans in the states.
Nonetheless, all white skinned nations from Argentina to Canada, from England to Australia,and all light skinned asian nations are losing population through low birth rates. It would not be a problem,given that eventually in a generation or two, things reverse themselves. Exept now all these countries have hordes of third world populations overflowing around them, intellectually inferior ,in poverty, yet birthing 5 to 7 kids per women! The overpopulation despite its grave consequences, is a source of fertility pride for them, bragging about Taking over western nations!!
A culture only survives as long as the founding race and ethnic group that built it is there in majority. Once that race disappears, everything they built crumbles and disappears from neglect on the part of the newcomers, who will see these monuments left behind as “old relics” The best example is Detroit and every major city in America in decline. Among the vacant lots,weeds, abandoned factories, you will see names on the buildings. Hints of a different people that once built that city.

But to liberals it does’nt matter. To them, demographic suicide is seen as a sick version of reparations(as in yeah,”we whites were bad, so, to make it up to you, we will die off slowly”). Feminism, devaluation of families and the portrayal of babies as animals who shoot piss high up in the air, to your face in movies, portrays parenthood as a prison term.The end of Whites,Japanese mean the end of the free modern civilization we grew up in!!

I find it amusing how the left accuses fox news of bias, yet in 2008-9
President obama(lower case “o” on purpose) joined, CNN,MSNBC(MSLSD),NBC,CBS, basically all major news networks in denouncing the Fox News Channel as being pro Republican and racist!! Let me see…..Fox News has a new hispanic conservative network called “Fox News Latino”. Its the First network to appeal to conservative hispanics. As a Puerto Rican American, I can tell you that ALL spanish language media is owned by rich liberals born in Latin America. Republicans are bashed in all spanish networks! Thank you fox news, for giving hispanics a new option! Again, Obama and all major networks teamed up to demonize fox news….
Thus proving that democrats and liberals control the media.

buchanan belongs on fox news, not msnbc……hes a racist and right wingnut…..good riddance

Simple Facts convict people far more effectively than juries.

–Cobra

Take a look at this, I think it both clarifies the issue, and confuses it?

http://www.gallup.com/poll/118684/military-veterans-aged-republican.aspx

I hope the site is accurate, if not, google “republicans in the military,” and it is one of the first few.

Anyway, my compliments, the site you sent is stupefying! I admit that I was stunned. However, I could suggest some causality, but, I’ll just leave it alone as it would only be speculation… Nice job.

Purveyor

I think Pat is right in the fact that America will in the future not be known as a predominately white Christian country. But I think, “so what.”  Look at how many cultures the Europeans have overrun and destroyed so maybe it is their turn. Certainly as a class of people we are in the minority on this space ship called earth and who can know what will be a thousand years from now. Than again what difference will it make to any of us. Maybe kids will learn about our civilization and how we were just like any other filled with good and bad aspects. The universe will go on and we are but a flash in the pan.

MSNBC is a private business.

It can fire any rightwing nut it wants to.