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Conservatives Outraged Over Harry Reid’s ‘Under God’ Pledge ‘Omission’

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by Tommy Christopher | 11:19 am, April 14th, 2011

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Conservative websites like The Blaze and Gateway Pundit (and even Fair and Balanced™ ones like Fox Nation) are working themselves into lathers of varied thickness over what they claim is Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-NV) omission of the words “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance on the Senate floor. While it is true that Reid didn’t say “under God,” he also didn’t really omit it.

I’m actually a little disappointed in Reid, because when I saw all of these headlines, I though maybe he was taking a stand against this theocratic oddity in our Pledge, but alas, that is not the case. The clip that these folks are referencing doesn’t actually feature a recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, but rather, a specifically-framed quotation from it:

Reid references the Civil War era, at which time the Pledge didn’t even exist yet, and is clearly highlighting the relationship between that conflict, and the Pledge’s promise of unity.

To be fair, The Blaze notes the distinction, if not all that fairly:

Sure they will say it was intentional use of a partial phrase meant to emphasize the importance of national unity and not to be a strict quotation…but how hard is it just to leave the those two key words in there?

While I’m sure they’re right, and Reid only did it to emphasize the relevant portion of the Pledge, I would submit that there was a very good reason to omit “under God” in this context, aside from the obvious First Amendment reasons. The Civil War was a conflict fought over slavery, an institution whose supporters claimed divine justification to defend it. I would argue that being “under God” and “indivisible” were somewhat incompatible in that case.

Even if you think that there’s no problem with including “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, why not be a little more inclusive? We could take a page from Billy Joel’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire,” and replace that section with “under God, under Allah, under Vishnu, under Buddha, under Gaia, under Cthulhu, under Jee-bus…”

What could be more American than that?

Update: Not everyone on the right is outraged. As The Right Scoop points out, none other than Glenn Beck vigorously defends Reid in much the same way I did. The end is near.

Allah, Buddha, Cthulhu, fox nation, Gaia, Gateway Pundit, Harry Reid, Jeebus, Pledge of Allegiance, The Blaze, under God, Vishnu

http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

Remember when the GOP Sharron Angle and cost themselves the scalp they wanted most in 2010? hahahahahaha
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

Reid is saying anything and everything he can to change the major subject at hand…

“are working themselves into lathers”
-TC
That’s a bit much…
http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

*GOP ran…but yeah, Nevada voters wanted so badly to vote Reid out, but there were still enough who voted for him because they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for someone with literally child-like intelligence.
More Liberty5

Tommy Christopher said:
“Even if you think that there’s no problem with including “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, why not be a little more inclusive? We could take a page from Billy Joel’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire,” and replace that section with “under God, under Allah, under Vishnu, under Buddha, under Gaia, under Cthulhu, under Jee-bus…””

LOL…you’re such a liberal hypocrite. You’re bigoted comments about rural white Texans (you and I both know that is what you meant) compared to your calls for “inclusion” in this article are hilarious.

“I’m just kidding, he was actually already banging the cow when I met him. It was awkward.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-tamron-hall-scolds-tea-party-guest-for-slamming-new-jersey/

On one point you make stereo typical comments, then on the other you want “inclusion.” Maybe your bigotry deserves a little more inclusion Tommy.
WCinWI

Reid is one perpetual reason why there needs to be an age cap for members of Congress and the Senate.
screwauger

senile old smelly liberal fart. You can smell him outside the windows.
ndanielson

Is any one shocked??? Liberals don’t want God in our lives, they want government in our lives. Government IS God to a liberal. Harry is god to a liberal. Worship no false gods, liberals! Idolatry is a sin!

…one nation, under liberals with liberty and justice for some.
WCinWI

I would think that this is all the more reason for Tommy to agree with the defunding of federal dollars to Planned Parenthood. That would truly be a separation of church and state.
Tommy Christopher

More Liberty5 said:
You’re bigoted comments about rural white Texans (you and I both know that is what you meant) compared to your calls for “inclusion” in this article are hilarious.

That is NOT what I meant at all. I’m really sorry if you got that impression. The guy wasn’t rural at all, if I take him at his word. He claimed to be a “perfesser at the Texas Car-ledge of Fancy Book-Larnin’.”
Tommy Christopher

More Liberty5 said:
Tommy Christopher said:
“Even if you think that there’s no problem with including “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance, why not be a little more inclusive? We could take a page from Billy Joel’s “We Didn’t Start the Fire,” and replace that section with “under God, under Allah, under Vishnu, under Buddha, under Gaia, under Cthulhu, under Jee-bus…””

LOL…you’re such a liberal hypocrite. You’re bigoted comments about rural white Texans (you and I both know that is what you meant) compared to your calls for “inclusion” in this article are hilarious.

“I’m just kidding, he was actually already banging the cow when I met him. It was awkward.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbcs-tamron-hall-scolds-tea-party-guest-for-slamming-new-jersey/

On one point you make stereo typical comments, then on the other you want “inclusion.” Maybe your bigotry deserves a little more inclusion Tommy.

I would ordinarily explain that last joke for you, but you still haven’t gotten the last one I explained to you, or the one about “inclusion.” C’mon, even a Texan would get that one.
ndanielson

Yep, Tommy, it is such an theocratic oddity in our Pledge, that EVERY state’s Constitution has a reference to God in it…You may be surprised to read the Preamble to your State Constitution. You’ll find it includes a mention, a prayer, a petition, or a thanks to Almighty God, God, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, the Providence of God, Creator, Divine Guidance, the Supreme Being, Sovereign Ruler of the Universe, Great Legislator of the Universe, or the Supreme Ruler of the Nations. No one is told they must worship God, how to worship God, or warned not to worship God in matters of state. In the Preamble to each and every State Constitution, the almighty and supreme nature of God as Creator and Ruler is linked to liberty and greatness. No mention is made of separation of God and state. No mention is made of a specific religion.

Such an “oddity”. So odd that our Founders actually set forth to ensure that our freedoms come from God, rather than some oddity like a “benevolent government”, but now we have mere men like the puke, Harry Reid, trying to play God. The Holy Trinity of liberalism: the Legislative, the Executive, but most of all, the Judicial.

No Preamble forbids the appreciation or invocation of God, but rather celebrates it.

Theocratic oddity. Wow.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1713021/whats_in_the_preamble_to_your_state.html
ndanielson

Fixed.

Yep, Tommy, it is such an theocratic oddity in our Pledge, that EVERY state’s Constitution has a reference to God in it…

You may be surprised to read the Preamble to your State Constitution. You’ll find it includes a mention, a prayer, a petition, or a thanks to Almighty God, God, the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, the Providence of God, Creator, Divine Guidance, the Supreme Being, Sovereign Ruler of the Universe, Great Legislator of the Universe, or the Supreme Ruler of the Nations. No one is told they must worship God, how to worship God, or warned not to worship God in matters of state. In the Preamble to each and every State Constitution, the almighty and supreme nature of God as Creator and Ruler is linked to liberty and greatness. No mention is made of separation of God and state. No mention is made of a specific religion.

Such an “oddity”. So odd that our Founders actually set forth to ensure that our freedoms come from God, rather than some oddity like a “benevolent government”, but now we have mere men like the puke, Harry Reid, trying to play God. The Holy Trinity of liberalism: the Legislative, the Executive, but most of all, the Judicial.

No Preamble forbids the appreciation or invocation of God, but rather celebrates it.

Theocratic oddity. Wow.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1713021/whats_in_the_preamble_to_your_state.html
Tommy Christopher

ndanielson said:
Is any one shocked??? Liberals don’t want God in our lives, they want government in our lives. Government IS God to a liberal. Harry is god to a liberal. Worship no false gods, liberals! Idolatry is a sin!

…one nation, under liberals with liberty and justice for some.

It never ceases to amuse me that religious people think they can put God into government, without risking putting government into God.
Mosesdinoark

The reason is that they chose “GOD” as opposed to “benevolent government” is really just symbolic meaning NO MAN can infringe upon our freedoms. Really. This was all written over 200 years ago. They still didnt have a grasp of the vastness of the universe and still had to explain things to a mostly uneducated society in a superstitious way. Its 2011 people!!! There are millions of galaxies with billions of planets!!! Quit worrying about a book written over 2000 years ago be even a mor uneducated society.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

Tommy Christopher said:
It never ceases to amuse me that religious people think they can put God into government, without risking putting government into God.

The Decl of Ind and the Constitution requires the concept of God in order to ensure a person’s individual rights…
Gov’t can not grant these rights, if it did, Gov’t could take them away…
The concept of God played a gigantic role in the founding of this country…
Liberals ignore history in that respect…
More Liberty5

Tommy Christopher said:
It never ceases to amuse me that religious people think they can put God into government, without risking putting government into God.

Well I think both sides have the same idea. To some, the government is god. Just look at the people that think government is the answer to all our problems, when government is a huge problem. And the other-side feels that god is the answer to all their problems, if they just prey or whatever. That is why many communist regimes outlaw religion because it’s competition.

Both sides are wrong if you ask me, except that government actually violates individual rights and when god is involved in government it also violates individual rights.
Mosesdinoark

Mosesdinoark said:
The reason is that they chose “GOD” as opposed to “benevolent government” is really just symbolic meaning NO MAN can infringe upon our freedoms. Really. This was all written over 200 years ago. They still didnt have a grasp of the vastness of the universe and still had to explain things to a mostly uneducated society in a superstitious way. Its 2011 people!!! There are millions of galaxies with billions of planets!!! Quit worrying about a book written over 2000 years ago by an even more uneducated society.

oops bad typing…better put that out there before I get slammed =P
More Liberty5

Tommy Christopher said:
That is NOT what I meant at all. I’m really sorry if you got that impression. The guy wasn’t rural at all, if I take him at his word. He claimed to be a “perfesser at the Texas Car-ledge of Fancy Book-Larnin’.”

This is precisely what I’m talking about. Now you are making offensive comments about the stereo typical accent of Texans. Would you also make stereo typical and offensive comments about a minority group – such as ebonics or someone where English is the second language?

Additionally your ignorance about Texas is astounding. It has the 14th largest economy in the world, and 2nd largest in the USA. It has the largest medical center in the United States, and home to more fortune 500 companies than any other states with the exception of California which it is tied with. Also, it has less hate crimes than most states including California.

Let’s try and be a little more informed before making bigoted comments.
OxyCon

We get it already Tommy! You don’t really care for rural Americans and Christians!
Barack Must Go

Reid actually was thinking to himself, Barack Obama during that exercise in liberal douchebaggery.

Anyone who questions the true difference between a ” real ” American and a morally bankrupt liberal, that just happen to be born here is need look no further than the words of the libs on this thread. It tells the whole truth and nothing but the truth regarding this matter.

……..and if you don’t believe me…just ask me.

Ol Harry is just pissed because We the People ran his cowboy clown rodio out of town on a rail, causing him to miss singing his favorite cowboy song at karioke night.

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7nzbIKdNAzAA8g1XNyoA;_ylc=X1MDUCMyMTQyMzU3MDg5BF9yAzIEZnIDeWZwLXQtNzAxLTEtcwRmcjIDc2ctZ2FjBGdwcmlkAwRob3N0cHZpZANEb3BjNEVvRzd2NHBYSWl0VEdfaXZ3ZmtDQV9rNkUybklOc0FDTmoyBGl0A2dwBG5fZ3BzAzQEb3JpZ2luA3NycARwb3MDMQRwcXN0cgNpJ20gYSByaGluZQRxdWVyeQNpJ20gYSByaGluZXN0b25lIGNvd2JveQRzYWMDMQRzYW8DMQRzZWMDcmVsLXNhBHZ0ZXN0aWQDREZSNQ–?p=i'm%20a%20rhinestone%20cowboy&fr=yfp-t-701-1-s&fr2=sg-gac&pqstr=i'm%20a%20rhine
Obeezy

This is precisely what I’m talking about. Now you are making offensive comments about the stereo typical accent of Texans. Would you also make stereo typical and offensive comments about a minority group – such as ebonics or someone where English is the second language?

Additionally your ignorance about Texas is astounding. It has the 14th largest economy in the world, and 2nd largest in the USA. It has the largest medical center in the United States, and home to more fortune 500 companies than any other states with the exception of California which it is tied with. Also, it has less hate crimes than most states including California.

Let’s try and be a little more informed before making bigoted comments.

Aww Tommy cant help it.. He hates to be white almost as much as hates to be American.. If he made fun of any other race or religion they would run him right out of the Communist Society and the LIberal Party at once. Fashizzle my Nizzle
Barack Must Go

I just can’t seem to get the hang of this, but here it go’s again. This one fohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHKB2vEsB2gr you Harry Reid.
ndanielson

Tommy Christopher said:
It never ceases to amuse me that religious people think they can put God into government, without risking putting government into God.

The risk paid off quite well up until the 16th, and 17th, Amendments to the Constitution. How did we manage that?
Barack Must Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHKB2vEsB2g
OxyCon

Obeezy said:
This is precisely what I’m talking about. Now you are making offensive comments about the stereo typical accent of Texans. Would you also make stereo typical and offensive comments about a minority group – such as ebonics or someone where English is the second language?

Additionally your ignorance about Texas is astounding. It has the 14th largest economy in the world, and 2nd largest in the USA. It has the largest medical center in the United States, and home to more fortune 500 companies than any other states with the exception of California which it is tied with. Also, it has less hate crimes than most states including California.

Let’s try and be a little more informed before making bigoted comments.

Aww Tommy cant help it.. He hates to be white almost as much as hates to be American.. If he made fun of any other race or religion they would run him right out of the Communist Society and the LIberal Party at once. Fashizzle my Nizzle

Don’t forget the many top colleges and universities in Texas!
ModerateMan

Tommy Christopher said:
That is NOT what I meant at all. I’m really sorry if you got that impression. The guy wasn’t rural at all, if I take him at his word. He claimed to be a “perfesser at the Texas Car-ledge of Fancy Book-Larnin’.”

That’s the same attitude I encountered when I went from attending UT-Austin to UC-Berkeley. The ignorance of liberals is astounding.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

Philosophically…
Atheism is a Religion…
MrTPar_taY

He’s a very old man of course he’s forgetful.
weatherman

I think it’s worth noting that the pledge of allegiance has nothing to do with the Constitution, having been written some 100 years later. It’s also worth noting that the words “under God” were not in the pledge as originally written, but added more than 50 years later.

Ironically the point that Reid was trying to make, that this country is indivisible, is belied by the reaction to his quotation. Sad, really.
ndanielson

Tommy Christopher said:
It never ceases to amuse me that religious people think they can put God into government, without risking putting government into God.

Stalin, Hitler and Mao, et al., took god out of governance. The savages that put the word of Allah as their supreme source of motivation, put “government into god”. It seems that the birth of America with the premise that we are endowed by our creator (not government) finally got the balance right. Then we have those government worshiping sheep, like yourself that worship the likes of Harry Reid, and his utopia-by-government fiat. You are a joke with your “theocratic oddity”. All 50 states made it such an oddity? Does mediaite actually give you a paycheck to write such dishonest, uninformed liberal pap?
Mosesdinoark

Well,
Q: When the citizens of Texas elect senile farts like Leo Berman and goobers like Louis Gohmert to State and Federal positions what are us educated Yankees supposed to conclude?

A: That you yokels dont like the fancy Book-Larnin’!
DFW

Tommy, you need to make the distinction between true conservatives and right-wing, American Taliban-like so-called “Christians,” whose attitudes no more resemble those of Jesus than a gnat resembles a blue whale. These people seek to conserve NOTHING. They seek to intrude on every aspect of other peoples’ lives and impose their own religious views and social mores, and then scream God gave this right to them, and not the government.

They are nothing but frustrated control freaks who lurk like vultures, waiting for something (anything!) that they can jump on while perusing the internet. They claim to be against “big government” because THEY want to control your lives, and they can’t do it if there’s some higher authority (like the US Constitution, for example) that says they should shut up and leave the rest of us alone.

Remember: being inside a church no more makes you a Christian than being inside a garage makes you a car.
Mosesdinoark

ndanielson said:
The savages that put the word of Allah as their supreme source of motivation, put “government into god”. P>

Sound like you’re talking about yourself there!
BadGenome

Don’t take it personally, Texans. Tommy looks down on everyone who doesn’t adhere to the swinging GTL lifestyle of New Jersey. (In his case, GTL = Gynecomastia, TGI Fridays, and Lipitor.)
TeaPartyPatriot

dingy-harry did this despicable act so his leader, TheONE, wouldn’t be offended by dingy referring to somebody other than him or mohammed, which are the ONLY true supreme beings in the perverse lunatic-left d-crat socialist world.

In the Catholic religion, the Pope is the standard for all devotees, and nobody is placed higher than Him. (Actually, since I ‘m talking about d-crat socialists, a better analogy would be to look at radical islamic extremists, who place MOHAMMAD above every one and every thing else as the supreme light of their existence.) In the lunatic-left d-crat socialist religion their messiah, TheOne, is similarly treated.
Mosesdinoark

TeaPartyPatriot said:
, TheONE, wouldn’t be offended by dingy referring to somebody other than him or mohammed, .

What does The Matrix have to with any of this?
slickerwick

Who is “Jee-bus”? I notice you didn’t make fun of Allah’s name. To be consistent and unbiased you should have distorted the other god names. BTW, “God” isn’t a name of a particular god. I’m an atheist or pantheist, to be more exact, so I don’t have a dog in this fight. But I can’t help but notice that everything, even religion, is seen through your partisan glasses.
“They are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights…” We should probably delete that reference as well. It’s so “theocratic.” You do have a tendency to stretch the meaning of a word, don’t you?
slickerwick

skoorbekim said:
Reid is saying anything and everything he can to change the major subject at hand…

“are working themselves into lathers”
-TC
That’s a bit much…

Not to mention a cliche. Plus, I never heard it used in a pluralized form. If Tommy wanted to use a cliche, it should have read, “working themselves into a lather.” He’s a poor writer, a shallow thinker, and a partisan hack–an obnoxious combination.
Puter Boi

Somewhere….there is a comedy stage begging for T.C. to return….seriously…there has to be.

Seriously….
Somewhere…
slickerwick

Mosesdinoark said:
Well,
Q: When the citizens of Texas elect senile farts like Leo Berman and goobers like Louis Gohmert to State and Federal positions what are us educated Yankees supposed to conclude?

A: That you yokels dont like the fancy Book-Larnin’!

No bigotry on the left! (There was a time when the left were the champions for rural people. Remember Woody Guthrie and John Steinbeck?)
slickerwick

Mosesdinoark said:
Well,
Q: When the citizens of Texas elect senile farts like Leo Berman and goobers like Louis Gohmert to State and Federal positions what are us educated Yankees supposed to conclude?

A: That you yokels dont like the fancy Book-Larnin’!

You should have written “what are WE educated…” Ironic how you mock uneducated people while sounding like an uneducated “goober” yourself.
http://Mediaite.com uggugg

If Harry Reid was pledging allegiance to the Koch brothers or the Koch Brothers Republican Congressional Friends as all of us know, that would be something to cry about and spread far and wide to help educate the naive voter in the Tea Party so they are no longer be deceived with fancy talk rather than honest simple explanation of how they can, and have in the past done something for the people who are not rich. If the Rich Business and the Republicans have a record of doing something for the poor and working class people besides sending their jobs overseas, let them brag about it to the rich voters and the poor working class voters so they know how to vote the next time. Makes sense to me.
slickerwick

uggugg said:
If Harry Reid was pledging allegiance to the Koch brothers or the Koch Brothers Republican Congressional Friends as all of us know, that would be something to cry about and spread far and wide to help educate the naive voter in the Tea Party so they are no longer be deceived with fancy talk rather than honest simple explanation of how they can, and have in the past done something for the people who are not rich. If the Rich Business and the Republicans have a record of doing something for the poor and working class people besides sending their jobs overseas, let them brag about it to the rich voters and the poor working class voters so they know how to vote the next time. Makes sense to me.

Your screed needs more insertions of leftwing talking points and boilerplate. Koch Bros. is good and the class warfare theme but you should have mixed in some references to Palin and Beck to make it truly worthy of mindless Orwellian Newspeak. Also, your first sentence is a run-on, a traffic jam of lousy grammar and syntax that makes in incoherent. It’s rather “uggugg.”

Oh, and you do realize that Obama is a corporatist, don’t you? His jobs commission is headed by his buddy, Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of GE which outsources jobs and has paid zero in taxes? Damn those wily Republicans, electing one of their own as POTUS (though he has a D on his jersey) and thereby fooling fools like you.
Tedderman

We have sadly arrived at a point where no one can seem to make a point, no matter how innocuous, where they offend someone. While omitting two words that were only added to show our difference from those in the U.S.S.R., Harry Reid ticked someone off. Perhaps, before anyone gives a speech, it should be brought before a committee to determine if it will offend someone on the other side of the aisle Nah, were headed for another civil war anyway, what’s the use?
Mosesdinoark

slickerwick said:
No bigotry on the left! (There was a time when the left were the champions for rural people. Remember Woody Guthrie and John Steinbeck?)

We are. Just the tinfoil hat bilble-belcher Armageddon militia types are the problems.
Tommy Christopher

slickerwick said:
Who is “Jee-bus”?

It’s a Simpsons reference.
Tommy Christopher

slickerwick said:
Not to mention a cliche. Plus, I never heard it used in a pluralized form. If Tommy wanted to use a cliche, it should have read, “working themselves into a lather.”

“working themselves into lathers of varied thickness.” It was a humorous re-working of a cliche, one of a number of stylistic flourishes that I employ regularly. Humor is subjective, though, so if you didn’t think it was funny, you’re wrong.
Tommy Christopher

slickerwick said:
No bigotry on the left! (There was a time when the left were the champions for rural people. Remember Woody Guthrie and John Steinbeck?)

I don’t know if you actually read the post that the Texas jokes originated on, so if you didn’t, the Texas jokes were a device to satirize interstate rivalry, and New Jersey’s attitudes toward it.. I don’t actually have any problem with texas. Or with people insulting New Jersey.
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

Tommy Christopher said:
It was a humorous re-working

Jury is out indefinitely on that…
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

TC,
Jokes get less and less funny when you need to explain them…
Mosesdinoark

slickerwick said:
You should have written “what are WE educated…” Ironic how you mock uneducated people while sounding like an uneducated “goober” yourself.

slickerwick is CLEARLY an english major! What an elite you are! Or it reminds me more of someone else in the news recently, who was obsessed with grammar… But alas, i will not get an Subjects/Objects
formal/informal debate with you.
Mosesdinoark

Mosesdinoark said:
slickerwick is CLEARLY an english major! What an elite you are! Or it reminds me more of someone else in the news recently, who was obsessed with grammar… But alas, i will not get an Subjects/Objectsformal/informal debate with you.

One reason is that im typing on my phone right now. I know its not helping me prove my point. Yes I type like a goober!!!…but slickerwick these are blog posts so we dont need grammar police.
timcajun

Once again, hate from the teas, that doesn’t really fit! Keep the hate alive! Long live the “fake” christian values!
http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

timcajun said:
Once again, hate from the teas, that doesn’t really fit! Keep the hate alive! Long live the “fake” christian values!

They are as clever as they are subtle…
Nachi

Doesn’t take much to enrage our nation of ill-bred hillbillies.
Tedderman

Yee-Haw….. I’m gonna go git my gun, go sit in church n’ pray then “cling” to them. (My guns and religion that is.)
Tommy Christopher

skoorbekim said:
TC,
Jokes get less and less funny when you need to explain them…

I agree. Try and get it the first time from now on
leftistvermin

Yeah, I’m sure it’s a mistake, a liberal would never intentionally badmouth religion or omit it from having anyplace in our society. Just like Harry and the libs will go hunting for “spring spheres” this year.
david r

I knew it. Soon Tommy and Beck will be sitting on the porch. Tommy will say, “You know we’re going to hang out today, ’cause it’s Friday, you ain’t got no job, and don’t have shit to do.”
jrcmi

The Pledge did not contain the words “under God” when originally composed.

I remember watching an old movie in which a bunch of schoolkids were reciting it. “Under God”: was not included.
X-3

jrcmi said:
The Pledge did not contain the words “under God” when originally composed.

You are correct–but it does NOW!

I think Dingy Harry was trying to catch up with -0bama for leaving out “endowed by our Creator” a couple of times.
More Liberty5

Tommy Christopher said:
I don’t know if you actually read the post that the Texas jokes originated on, so if you didn’t, the Texas jokes were a device to satirize interstate rivalry, and New Jersey’s attitudes toward it.. I don’t actually have any problem with texas. Or with people insulting New Jersey.

That’s like making a racist joke then submitting a qualifier such as “I have no problem with black people.”
mediadoubt

ndanielson said:
Is any one shocked??? Liberals don’t want God in our lives, they want government in our lives. Government IS God to a liberal. Harry is god to a liberal. Worship no false gods, liberals! Idolatry is a sin!

…one nation, under liberals with liberty and justice for some.

Now you’re just making shit up. Like most Americans, most liberals are religious in some way or the other, more’s the pity.

And as a liberal who doesn’t happen to be religious myself, I don’t take government or Harry Reid as my god. All my atheist buddies are pretty much the same way and most of them are liberal.

So I guess that makes us safe from that idolatry thingie, and since sin is a concept without meaning, I feel safe in saying we’re “without sin,” too. How comforting.
mediadoubt

skoorbekim said:
Philosophically…
Atheism is a Religion…

And epistemologically . . .
A Volkswagen is an avocado . . .
mediadoubt

slickerwick said:
Your screed needs more insertions of leftwing talking points and boilerplate. Koch Bros. is good and the class warfare theme but you should have mixed in some references to Palin and Beck to make it truly worthy of mindless Orwellian Newspeak. Also, your first sentence is a run-on, a traffic jam of lousy grammar and syntax that makes in incoherent. It’s rather “uggugg.”

Oh, and you do realize that Obama is a corporatist, don’t you? His jobs commission is headed by his buddy, Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of GE which outsources jobs and has paid zero in taxes? Damn those wily Republicans, electing one of their own as POTUS (though he has a D on his jersey) and thereby fooling fools like you.

I’m pretty sure uggugg was parodying the usual style of wingnut postings on this site. Just guessing though. It’s so hard to tell these days.
mediadoubt

Tedderman said:
Yee-Haw….. I’m gonna go git my gun, go sit in church n’ pray then “cling” to them. (My guns and religion that is.)

I have no objection to whatever you choose to cling to, as long as you do it indoors. Churches are fine.
george L

An interesting thing about that pledge. Doesn’t anyone notice that it is allegiance to the FLAG? Not to the constitution. Not to God. Not even to the United States. To the FLAG, which happens to represent the US. And now the conservative Christians want us to pledge allegiance to GOD. That would be the god that fits their definition.

By the way, who says that pledge is in any way official, or even appropriate at any time? Does the Congress recite it every day at the beginning of a session? It was originally written by a pastor, and he did not include the phrase “under God.” God was added to the pledge and on our money to prove that we are not communists, and for no other reason.
Military people take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution and to obey the orders of superiors. There is no mention of God in that oath.
tigressblood

And, there’s no mention of God in the Constitution. In fact, it specifically says there shall be no religious test as a prerequisite for holding office.
X-3

george L said:
An interesting thing about that pledge.

Can you even recite the Pledge of Allegience? Who says the Pledge of Allegience anymore? Not NEARLY enough Americans, that’s who.
Patricia013

If they want to get technical about it “under God” was put into the Pledge of Allegiance only in the 50′s – it certainly was not part of the pledge before that time…just as “In God We Trust” replaced “E Pluribus Unum” (the many are one) on our currency. Doesn’t make it right or fair to all – just the whim of whoever was in power at the time!