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Esquire: The Right Has Roger Ailes, The Left Has Jon Stewart

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In the latest issue of Esquire, writer Tom Junod analyzes the serious side of The Daily Show and compares comedian Jon Stewart to Fox News president Roger Ailes.

Junod devotes most of the article to Stewart’s serious side, suggesting in recent years it has influenced and guided his work more than his comedic side. Talking about Stewart’s memorable and contentious interview with Chris Wallace a few months ago, Junod calls the comic “smug and condescending without bothering to be funny at all.” He claims that Stewart has become the very thing he has parodied for so long:

He’s the very embodiment of the self-important yet dim-witted — or is that dim-witted yet self-important? — media creature whom Stewart has made a living schooling over the last tumultuous decade. So if Jon Stewart can’t be smug and contemptuous and superior with Chris Wallace, who can he be smug and contemptuous and superior with?

Some media pundits thought Stewart’s “jumping the shark” moment came during his Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear last November, but Junod believes it started in 2004, when he made his infamous appearance on the late CNN program Crossfire. He details a pre-show conversation between Stewart and liberal host Paul Begala, where Begala noticed that Stewart appeared to look nervous.

What Begala didn’t know, of course, was that Stewart was nervous in the way that Michael Corleone was nervous when he walked out of the bathroom of the Italian restaurant with more than his dick in his hand. He’s a great reflexive comic who’s made his living reacting — or appearing to react while scripting his reactions — on The Daily Show, but on this day, he, Jon Stewart, had Something to Say. “I thought he was going to push his clever book that had just come out,” Begala says. “But he wanted to be more serious. He came out and started tearing into us. It was funny and pointed, and it was great TV before the whole thing got derailed and the name-calling started.”

He addresses Stewart’s coverage of the 9/11 health care bill, his 2009 takedown of Jim Cramer, and the brief Rick Sanchez controversy. But perhaps the most damning part of the article comes when Junod talks about The Daily Show‘s recurring Fox News coverage, quoting a former writer as admitting he left because the staff was “running out of targets,” and directly compares the influence of Jon Stewart to a man he has mocked many times before: Roger Ailes.

Stewart gives Fox’s hosts something to complain about — confirmation that the media is “biased” and the game rigged against them — but Fox gives Stewart a reason to exist, and he’s been obsessed with Roger Ailes ever since he went to O’Reilly’s studio and was summoned into Ailes’s office… It’s that Ailes is all about power and so has accepted the obligation that Stewart has proudly refused. You want to know the difference between the Left and the Right in America? The Right has Roger Ailes, and the Left has Jon Stewart; the Right has an evil genius, while the Left contents itself with a genius of perceived non-evil.

That’s a comparison no one is really going to take well.

h/t Esquire

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  • Anonymous

    No, the left has Jon Stewart and ABC, and NBC, and MSNBC, and CBS, and CNN, and the New York Times, and Newsweak, and Washington Post and PBS, and NPR…..

    shall I go on?

    The left has an army of sycophantic water carriers and the right has a singular cable channel, which really isn’t all that right save for a few opinion guys who host prime-time shows.

  • Valkyrie101

    That painting of Stewart is right up there with the Kramer painting.

  • Sharpo

    actually, the whole article is wrong.

  • Sharpo

    it is not a left vs right thing

    it is a normal, reasonable people vs stupid extremists and lazy sensationalistic people that crosses ideological and political boundries

  • Anonymous

    When a comedian takes himself seriously , the comedy evaporates .

    Mort Sahl became obsessed with the Warren Report and subjected his audiences to it till they could not take any more . 

    Don’t really see how two hours per week  of mugging for the camera like Paris Hilton and sarcasm written by twenty or more liberals equates to a man running a news network that does not knuckle under to anyone .

  • Anonymous

    I agree entirely, but I’m sure there are plenty of people who are saying to themselves, “Who is Mort Sahl and what’s a Warren Report”.

    We have dated ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    The Right has Roger Ailes, and the Left has Jon Stewart; the Right has
    an evil genius, while the Left contents itself with a genius of
    perceived non-evil.

    Talking points are best when they’re stuffed with hyperbole.

    That’s a comparison no one is really going to take well.

    Meh. It’s dopey. Who cares?

  • Anonymous

    Has Stewart even mentioned the comedy gold mine  that is Attackwatch.com ?

    Any of the scandals besides Solyndra ? He says Weiner was the reason Obama lost in NY 9 . That is a lie and Stewart knows it .

    Stewart covering up for an administration every night is very tiresome . Liberals once trusted him for some reason .Why trust him at all when he has become an unapologetic shill   ?

  • http://thefunemployed.blogspot.com/ rance

    The right is evil, blah, blah, blah.  Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

  • Valkyrie101

    That’s pretty accurate. Though, FOX more than carries it own conservative water. I mean, be honest. Fox is a God send because it holds up the right.

  • Richie

    Roger Ailes is a hardened political operative who has spent his entire career promoting the interests of the Republican Party. Jon Stewart is a left of center comedian whose background is in Hollywood. They are hardly comparable. They come from two completely different universes. 

  • Anonymous

    Have you libs ever heard of a pipe dream? 

    Esquire is comparing the ” real ” United States of America ( Ailes ) to a deseased little fly sitting on a piece of smelly, equally deseased Barack Obama and calling them the same………and you eat that Barack Obama up like nobody’s business.

    You guys/gals/libs are the best…..

  • djlarew

    Oh, the poor, poor Right.  Nobody credible loves them!  The world is out to get them!  The media never tells their side… 

    Wah!Bunch of crybabies and conspiracy theorists over there.  What an embarrassment to this great nation.  

  • Matt Ketcham

    Stewart hasn’t become more partisan over the years.  He’s always been one to take on hypocrisy…it’s just that in recent years, the hypocrisy has come from one side far more than the other.

  • StephenRichieKaren lol

    Why don’t you post as Sara Flanders anymore ?  Why no Karen or Stephen for that matter  ?

  • Dummy123

    1.4 million viewers for Jon?
    Please apologize to Mr Ailes and we’ll forget this story was ever written.

  • Dummy123

    1.4 million viewers for Jon?
    Please apologize to Mr Ailes and we’ll forget this story was ever written.

  • Anonymous

    yes you are an embarrassment.  Nobody is crying over that – it’s expected from the charming lefties.  

  • Anonymous

    only in the small minds of liberals do the two equate.  But, one thing is for certain, Stewart is now labelled even by the left for what he is.  He can no longer state he is “just a comedian”.  That ship has sailed.  

    There are so many stories that mediaite and other left wings don’t cover, because they are covering for the democrats.  I swear there is a “club” each day as to what stories to push and which ones to bury because the absence of any negative stories is just so glaring that it isn’t by happenstance.  

    Oh well, the left will keep us informed about their latest mentor – Stewart, thus I have no need to ever watch him.  

  • Anonymous

    very true.  Thus the ridicule of Palin’s comment regarding seeing Russia from parts of Alaska.  At one time, it was a very scary proposition that was discussed in the news forever.  

    I think that was one reason that although Palin was ridiculed – Couric sunk,  because although the young thought it was a stupid comment, older people remembered all too well the “what if” stories.  Remember my Mother and Dad talking about it, back in the Kennedy days.  

  • Anonymous

    actually you are right.  Comparing or attempting to compare a media outlet to one individual who the youth have elevated is silly.  Now if they wanted to compare Ailes and Phil Griffin… or sorry that wouldn’t fly either, griffin is a light weight.  

  • Anonymous

    …but nothing pisses them off worse than Fox.  They can’t stand the thought that one drummer is just a wee bit different from the pap they are fed daily.  I guess having to think upsets their tummies.  

  • Anonymous

    It holds up honest reporting which seems to be in short supply.  Why is it that we all know the pros and cons of every issue (people who watch Fox) .  The left doesn’t.  

    I realize there is a strong right voice (Hannity) on Fox but seriously Meghan Kelly – you have no clue where she stands (as it should be).  Geraldo – flaming lefty, Smith, lefty, O’Reilly – independent (taken down both left and right).  Every major issue is discussed in an adult way with both sides represented by respective pundits who refute or praise whatever issue is being discussed.  

  • Anonymous

    cause that’s all they have is shills.  Hell they all went bat shit when Carvel spoke up until they let him steam on about the right.  How many threw him under the bus in the mean time? lol

  • Matt Ketcham

    Hyperbolic double-standards — “strong right voice” vs “flaming lefty”, or Democratic “ideology” vs Republican “principles” — are a microcosm of what’s wrong with Fox.

  • Anonymous

    truly, you want to go there?  I said Hannity was strong right and you decided to damn the entire station? How very “principled” of you.

    The microcosm of what is wrong with Fox is that Fox exists and it drives the left nuts.  Freedom of speech is fine but not for any comment that might not tow the “party line”, by informing on both sides of an issue.  How the hell can people make up their minds?  

    Doesn’t it bug you that the media thinks you’re too stupid to know what both sides of an issue are?  Don’t you get sick of just being told what to think?  

  • Guesty

    What people on the right forget is that there IS no left in this country anymore. There hasn’t been a true left in this country since the 1980s, when Reagan’s war on dissent stifled almost all of what had been known as The Left in this country. Frankly, the problem with Fox News is that in order for it to be relevant, it HAS to create a left-wing conspiracy; it NEEDS the left to exist, so it can have a bogeyman for its sycophantic repugnican  and tea-bagger viewers to have an enemy to tilt against. Otherwise, they’d be exposed as tilting against windmills. The right won this country back in the 1980s, what’s left over is just a muddled centrism that the right dresses up as the “left” on its way to creating it’s own version of nativist fascism in America.
    Those of us who are on the real left in this country are just trying to get the means together, as quickly as possible, so we can get the hell out of this sorry hellhole before the teabags close the borders and start rounding up citizens for “relocation.” 

  • Matt Ketcham

    Damn, if you think Fox fairly presents both sides you’re brainwashed.  Count the number of conservatives/liberals in any given “fair and balanced” debate INCLUDING the host, I guarantee you’ll see imbalance 9 times out of 10.  Even when the numbers are fair, they put up a credentialed conservative against either an extremist liberal (ex. they put a member of Code Pink up against a former Republican WH advisor for the Bush admin in a recent Paul Krugman debate on America Live) or a weaksauce Democrat (Alan Colmes).

  • Anonymous

    Stewart has earned every bit of criticism he received in Esquire. If you have read my critical comments about Stewart, you’d notice that the Esquire author and I raise the same valid points.

  • Anonymous

    They put up Code Pink because of the issue being discussed.  

    It appears that you want to be able to pick which democrats you think should represent your views.  In other words, you don’t think all democrats are created equal. lol 

    Good one sweet cheeks.  I’m far from brain washed.  Issues that I care deeply about, I research on my own if I’m not satisfied with the information I’ve garnered from the news.  Try it, you might find it liberating.  

    p.s. So it’s not imbalance you’re upset about – you never came to the conclusion that perhaps the left’s position on an issue being discussed is not strong enough to stand the scrutiny?  Otherwise, I’ve pointed out that the most popular programs are more than fair and balanced so what exactly are you referring to that isn’t?

  • Nature Freak

    Looks like it was painted in the 1950′s/ late 1940′s.

    Old school.

  • Lufrank

    Unbelievable – people who ACTUALLY believe that Fox is fair and balanced….Unbelievable-
    AND such a sad situation for the USA!

  • tifosa

    @djlarew: did you see the headline? “The Right Has Ailes.” They’re kept happy with the legs chairs. Bring the cheese for the whinefest. :^)

  • caconservative

    Sounds more like that’s what’s right with Fox.

  • Lufrank

    FACT … Hannity lies, O’Reilly Lies, Coulter Lies and FOX NEWS lies!  FACT!

  • caconservative

    I’ve read your remarks 3 times in an effort to find one relevant, fact based statement. Help me find one!

  • caconservative

    Your right!! The Obomacons are gullible, ideologically challenged sheeple who are now spinning out because they their personal “entitlement-God”, is going to be dethroned, and they might actually have to do for themselves.

  • Lufrank

    Main TRUTH that Feldman didn’t include……… Ailes is Evil, Stewart is not.

  • caconservative

    Put a blue-dress on Steward and send him in to Obimbo’s office.

  • Lufrank

    Seek456 …People who don’t see the falsehoods spouted by Hannity and Kelly and who don’t see O’Reilly’s spinning Bias are simply not listening.

  • http://twitter.com/tifosies tifosies

    If you think there’s a “liberal media machine” you’re either not watching “it,” or you don’t know what “liberal” means.

  • Finster125

    i love how the right has used there $political influence$ to single out a comedian who, for all intents and purposes, sets up his stories in a very linear and common sense fashion and leads to his standard of, “the US political beast has rabies.”  the right apparently has lost all hope of swaying the American people to give up there ideas of people helping people for a better country.  at times, i am ashamed to say i am an American, other times, i have great sympathy for those of whom on Capitol Hill are actually trying to fix our country.  God Bless America?

  • Valkyrie101

    It is pretty cool.

  • Valkyrie101

    I wouldn’t say that FOX is balanced. It clearly leans, and promotes, the right. On the other hand, wilth all the liberal networks out there, that is OK.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    Considering that Tom Junod’s claim to fame was writing a completely invented bio on Michael Stipe of R.E.M. to which he later had to publish an apology and admit to fabricating the entire piece, I am sure we should all take this article very seriously now.

  • JayMagoo

    Everyone seems obsessed about Liberal vs. Conservative, or Left vs. Right.  What about truth vs. lies? Roger Ailes is devoted to the Republican party, and the truth be damned.  Stewart seems determined to bring out the truth when it is so obscured and hidden by Fox’s and Ailes’ habitual lying and slanting that it is buried. Every beginning reporter or journalist used to be drilled on the notion that truth above all will triumph.  Roger Ailes with his Fox news policies has obscured that principle. Doesn’t anyone care anymore that Fox is a steady stream of lies and half-truths?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ECYBIXNKAG5E46BC3GCJQPA7CQ well_its_no_cannibal_holocaust

    not so fast, son.

  • Anonymous

    i love how the right has used there $political influence$ to single out a comedian…

    Huh? Could someone explain this? I thought we were all in the marketplace of ideas.

  • Anonymous

    lol – righttttt

    you just typed the biggest whopper of all. Give head shake, take an aspirin and perhaps you’ll see that you typed biased mumbo-jumbo with not a shred of truth.

  • Anonymous

    so you are an illegal are you?

  • Anonymous

    Seriously dude – Hannity does not lie, you just don’t like the fact he’s partisan but you’re fine with Larry, Chris, Al, Rachel, Ed being as partisan.  So – I’ve just named 5 to 1, and you don’t think that’s fair. lol
    (I’m sure there are more, but I don’t watch them so can’t say)

    Meghan Kelly does not lie – and I gather she’s a lefty if anything, but truth be told, she plays it down the middle.

    Smith is left and gets under my skin at times because I don’t think he presents the story without bias.

    O’Reilly rips both left and right, he’s independent and has proven it.  There is no spin and he hasn’t lied about diddley.  Cheney won’t go near him so drop the biased crap.  

    You see – the media is stacked against the right and we don’t give a darn, but you guys are soooo bent about Fox that it makes you look really small.  Really really small.  

  • Irish189

    1. i don’t recall jon stewart having that big a forehead

    2. There was one part of the chis Wallace interview that i was intrigued by, in the unedited interview Jon Stewart asked Chris Wallace what separated his satire from satrists of the past such as Will Rodgers or Mark Twain and Wallace didn’t have answer and that to me is huge because Stewart flat out asked him to say what was different then other satire comedians and Wallace had a chance to give an argument but he didn’t.

    The simple truth is two fold.

    1. The delivery system- people like Will Rogers, Mark Twain, or even George Calin didn’t have weekly exposure Jon Stewart does, where Twain Rogers and Carlin would have specials or write books or albums or tours, Jon Stewart’s reach is across the country 4 out of 7 days of the week. Hes doing what someone like comedians do with a stand up routine but hes simply able to reach a bigger audience much more consistently.

    2. Alot of people actually don’t know what satire is

    The definitions of satire according to one online dictionary are

    1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
    2.a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
    3. a literary genre comprising such compositions

    looking at that its safe to say in my opinion that Jon Stewart is satire, hes simply chosen to focus his satire on politics exclusively, more or less.
    And while no one can reasonably say Jon Stewart doesn’t have liberal views its also naive to say hes the left wings puppet, in using the current circumstances I think that the answer is much more simple, the right side of the political spectrum says the MORE outrageous things, the left isn’t pure goodness or anything like that but the right does seem to have more comedic material.

    A couple ex:
    To be honest its a hell of a lot easier to make fun of GWB than it is Obama, Bush’s mangling of the english language was comedy gold and while Joe Biden can deliver some great punch lines “this is a big fucking deal” haha, Dick Cheney simply more sound bites

    Anthony Weiner, a democrat had a scandal of posting nudes of himself online, a republican did the same thing on Craigslist, but then you add the nevada senator, Govenor mark Sanford of south Carolina, in being fair its not that democrats are more pure than republicans but republicans do seem at least to get caught more, ergo more comedic material 

    And of course you have the campaign flubs, Obama saying 57 states for example, he admitted it and moved on, then you have people like Michelle Bachmann who seems to be an endless treasure trove of saying outrageous things, founding fathers worked hard to end slavery, vaccines cause mental retardation based what one person told her,(and no medical proof), the American revolution started in NH, (it was Mass)

    point is the right at the moment is providing alot more to work with

    Stewart does go after the left, Obama’s healthcare plan handling was ridiculed, the latest solar energy problem, anyone remember when the president visited the daily show? Jon wasn’t exactly nice to him

    In Sum, Yes i believe Jon Stewart is a comedian and who does lots of satire and the right side of politics at the moment is a very easy target for joke purposes, but hes been able to reach a bigger audience in a different way

    On a parting note, satire is also seen as a social criticism, it seems fair to say that the rally to restore sanity can fall under that, the only time i’ve ever seen stewart one hundred percent serious on his show was when he invited first responders suffering from cancer to try and pass the 9/11 bill, something that i really don’t think any reasonable person can say was wrong

    Point is stewart is 99% comedian and 1% activist and until Chris Wallace can answer what seperates him from Mark Twain or George Carlin, other then the way he delivers material, the debate is worthless.

  • Anonymous

    If hating a cable TV channel is a noticeable part of your life, you’re doing it wrong.

  • Anonymous

    It is a sad situation when you can’t even be honest about Fox.  What is the matter with you?

  • lazzzlo

    If you are looking to leave this “sorry hellhole”, I’ll help you out.

  • Anonymous

    gee Irish – want to find where Obama “admitted” his 57 flub?  How about the other “flubs”?  Corpseman?
    (how many times in same speech so it wasn’t a flub, he didn’t know any better).

    So, In sum, your pontification was biased nonsense.  Stewart is a left wing shill and Wallace was not stuck for an answer he let Stewart be hoisted on his own petard.  Big difference.  

    Until you write an unbiased straight critique, you are no better than Stewart but about as funny.  

    p.s. to compare Stewart to Twain is beyond pathetic.  

  • JayMagoo

    Is that how seek456, our Republican troll of the day, deals with being told that Fox News is a persistent and incurable liar?  Aspirins and head shakes? Ahh, me, we’re being told that Fox’s well documented lies are not lies after all, and to accuse Fox of lying is “mumbo-jumbo with not a shred of truth.” What blather!!! 

  • Irish189

    1. I didn’t compare Stewart to Twain, that was the example used in the interview

    2. the 57 flub is the best known and therefore the best example in my opinion, your reading of it as the only one of obama seems a little disturbing

    3. The fact that your name calling doesn’t lend credibility, you want to make an argument then give reasons for it, otherwise some one might think you don’t know what your talking about

    4.I’m still waiting for a reasonable rationale argument as to why stewart is not a satire comedian

  • Anonymous

    Mark Twain wrote his own material and it lives on today .

    Stewart ‘s  mugging and sarcastic comments have an expiration date . Mocking is the easiest form of humor and it takes little skill .

    Will Rogers is a little more dated , but it was his own good work , not 20 other people’s .

  • http://ja-js.blogtownhall.com Chuck Fowler

    To Lufrank:

    “FACT … Hannity lies, O’Reilly Lies, Coulter Lies and FOX NEWS lies!  FACT!”

    Using all caps (shouting) isn’t exactly what it takes to  make a logical, persuasive argument. Either provide some FACTS about what you’re claiming is FACT or please just drink some more Kool-Aid and stick your head back in the sand.

  • Anonymous

    If ever there was something written to demonstrate the meaning of “fish don’t know they’re wet” it is your absurd claim; “there IS no left in this country anymore”.
    It’s hilarious until you realize that the person who wrote it is tragically out of touch with the world and confined to a very small and skewed perspective. It is sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1572984371 Cindy Nowicki

    EVERYONE “credible” loves the right….Key word…..”credible!”

    Who are you kidding?……CREDIBLE? The left wing/liberal media sources?……NOTHING credible there…Move along, nothing to see, or hear from those jokers!….

  • Pit Boss

    “It holds up honest reporting which seems to be in short supply.  Why is it that we all know the pros and cons of every issue (people who watch Fox) .  The left doesn’t.

    I just shat my pants laughing at that. Thanks for that.

  • Dono

    All except PBS owned by big business. GE, Disney, Time Warner – yea they are all lobs. GE 2nd largest holder of public utilities managed to pay Zero Federal income tax- shall I go on.

    Keep listening toDrug addled Rush

  • Anonymous

    you keep repeating the “lies” and haven’t shown one yet. 

  • Anonymous

    You’re spinning!  The 57 flub you said he acknowledged – I asked where, and you spun it into oblivion.  Don’t even know what your 2nd point is meant to be, because it makes no sense.

    I never called you any name, so again – what are you talking about?  One would think you’re spinning some more.

    Mark Twain was an American Treasure – please don’t even mention Stewart in the same breath.  Although I realize the left is enamoured with Stewart – I’m not.  He has been funny, but he now thinks of himself as brighter than he really is.  He’s a comic, who’s found his niche knocking republicans.  Well golly gee Ollie – that’s new and different, not.

  • Anonymous

    go change them, I can smell you from here.

  • JayMagoo

    Read the news, Chuck Fowler. If you are unaware that Fox lies and spins the truth to suit former President Richard M. Nixon’s campaign strategist Roger Ailes, you’re the only person in the universe who doesn’t know it.  There are far too many examples of lies over Fox news to include them here, even far too many in any single day. I wouldn’t deprive you of your kool-aide, you are apparently addicted to it.

  • Irish189

    1. Here is a link to the admitted flub

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html

    2. I was referring to the name calling in general not to personnel attacks, it, in my opinion, undermines the credibility of the argument of the individual, politicians practice this way too much in my opinion, they are not comedians

    3. your clearly missing the point about mark twain, as i said earlier that was the example used in the interview given, and its not equating Jon Stewart with Mark Twain in terms of the quality of the work they’ve done, no one will ever confuse Jon Stewart for Mark Twain, but thats missing the point that was being made which was Mark Twain is an example of a past well known individual who was good at satire, the total body of Twain’s work is not being argued.
    What the argument is is that you’ve had satire individuals like will rogers or mark twain or even George Carlin who have poked fun at politicians in the past and it was accepted for what it was, which was satire. The point Jon Stewart was making, i think, was that the satire he practices has been around for a century and that contrary to some people’s belief, he is not some new phenomenon 

  • Valkyrie101

    Were there any other Fox talking heads that you left out? Besides, Shabang, the new black panter, a frequent Fox analyst before he became politically a hot potatoe, you have Reverend Huck, Palin, Newt, to name not all, who are essentially Republican candidates.

  • Mandingo ate your baby

    Fox News…..un-”Fair” to the left for the mentally un-”Balanced” on the right.

  • Anonymous

    … and Colin Powell, and John McCain, and Arlen Specter, and The O’Reilly Factor, and just about any other person or entity that the extremists say don’t conform 24/7 to the increasingly narrow definition of a Republican. Cheney and Paul better watch it. They’re dangerously close to receiving the “RINO” label.

  • Mandingo ate your baby

    Tom Junod is….”stunod!”(Italian for stupid)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Monteith/1053382723 Joe Monteith

    Show us then ONE…Just ONE thing that Fox has lied about.  Just ONE please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Monteith/1053382723 Joe Monteith

    Show us ONE just ONE thing that they have said that was not TRUE.  Just ONE please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Monteith/1053382723 Joe Monteith

    Perhaps the Tea Party could place your fact distorting lamebrain backside in the front seat of the next bus leaving town…errr…country. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Monteith/1053382723 Joe Monteith

    He can’t.  Thats’ what they (The Leftist) do.  Right outta Saul Alinsky’s Ruels for Radicals.  Lie, distort, defame the oppposition when you don’t have any facts to back up your position.  Kinda like Goebbels, “Tell a lie often enough and it can become the trurh.” 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Monteith/1053382723 Joe Monteith

    GE the second largest holder of public utilities? That’s a flat out lie!  Typical Leftist  Alinsky tripe.  Lie, Lie, Lie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joe-Monteith/1053382723 Joe Monteith

    WHAT?

  • Anonymous

    POINT:

    FOX News are not  FAIR and BALANCED as you and many of the people replying to you purport to say.

    POINT:

    The BS argument that the media of of ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN are biased in a left leaning direction is a tired stupid argument that holds no water. The only leaning network in this mix is MSNBC, with confessed left-leaning opinion guys. The do their news in a straight way….As opposed to FOX which biases even their news coverage.

    These lies and misinformation that people like you try to spread is what poisons the political atmosphere in this country.

  • Anonymous

    They say they are “fair and balanced.”

  • Anonymous

    in other words, you’ve got nothing.  Why am I not surprised.  

  • JayMagoo

    Google “Fox Lies,” for openers.  And keep your glass of Kool-Aide handy — you’ll need it.

  • JayMagoo

    And then check on a page called MediaMatters.org.    I don’t expect you’ll believe anything you see there, but the evidence is overwhelming.  Fox Lies!

  • Paulb

    Wow, you just described Fox News!

  • Sharpo

    you would be one of the crazy people. not unlike union leadership

  • Paulb

    In an April 2009, the Fox News show America’s Newsroom
    made the claim that Obama’s $3.6 trillion budget is 4x bigger than
    Bush’s costliest plan. This isn’t true at all. Bush’s budgets for 2009
    and 2008 were $3.1 and $2.9 trillion respectively.

  • Anonymous

    No comparison.  Ailes is an empire builder,Stewart is a destroyer.

  • Anonymous

    FOX Lies !!!

    *drink*

  • Anonymous

    As a viewer of MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, HLN and Fox, I have to tell you that if you do not hear, see or know the difference, then you are a true BDDer:  blind, deaf and dumb.  I suggest that you remove the chips in
    your frontal lobes so you can hear, see and understand both sides of any issue.  Try it, it is enlightenment with a clicker.  I cannot, I must confess, watch a lot of the others though.  Unlike Alan Colmes and Bob Beckel who are both lost causes, there is hope for the others that regularly appear on Fox that are not allowed on the other channels because their ideology is so in your face and besides they would only be preaching to the choir.

  • Paulb

    In an April 2009, the Fox News show America’s Newsroom
    made the claim that Obama’s $3.6 trillion budget is 4x bigger than
    Bush’s costliest plan. This isn’t true at all. Bush’s budgets for 2009
    and 2008 were $3.1 and $2.9 trillion respectively.so good I had to post it twice

  • Texan

    Thanks patsy!

  • Anonymous

    Gee, Lufrank….see my comment below, you might learn something besides making as ass out of everybody and yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Teabagger !!!

    *drink*

  • Anonymous

    They can’t!  There is not a site I visit on the web where when asked to list “lies” by the right that they can come with anything but those old progressive canards.

  • Bobby

    Hold up the Right and the LIGHT OF TRUTH.

  • Bobby

    You probaly “shat” your bloomers everytime you see a Poll showing the rating of your Obummer and the rest of  the Socialist crowd.

  • Bobby

    Oh yes…the LEFT is here…sort of yellow around the edges, and going by other names…but they are still here.  We wil go on fighting your insane ways until you are all gone.  You will drink the bitter tea of your own making…while you suck the Right’s TEA BAGS.

  • Bobby

    LEFTIE!  Suck our Tea Bags.

  • http://twitter.com/gadfly666 gadfly666

    John Stewart is comedian who plays a news guy on TV. Roger Ailes is a Repbulican party hack who runs a TV news channel.

    John Stewart uses satire and humor to poke fun at the right. Roger Ailes uses lies and smears to attack the left.

    Clearly, both of them a very similar.

  • Bobby

    Of course it is lies, Joe.  They just write this crap as the trip down the tulip path.  LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bobby

    God….get help, man.  You are really, really ill.

  • http://impossibledreamsmedia.com Chris Jones

    Isn’t Jon Stewart the one always telling us he’s not a man of the left?

  • Bobby

    Put a dress on him?  Gad…don’t let Slick Willy see him.

  • Bobby

    People are just rolling their eyes at this stupid idiot. Your remarks are
    so tripe and have been made

    As “talking points” by your masters so many times. Just give it a rest,
    before you implode.

  • Bobby

    You have just named all “Left Wing”. org crap. No body believes them except “sheep” like you and the other liberal crack pots.

  • Bobby

    Gadfly 666 is just a liberal troll  spreading  the Dems. party crap.  (Roll of eyes….big yawn)

  • Anonymous

    No he isn’t.

  • Anonymous

    Why do you guys even do this? It’s the same thing over and over again. You google “Fox” lies and after an hour of sorting hip deep in the “Fox” spew and lies, you say it doesn’t count! What’s your point?

  • Anonymous

    Neither Twain or Rodgers had to do a new show 4 nights a week either.

    I have to laugh when people make fun of successful talented people and say it’s easy. Let me know when you have your own show.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XDJ7ZRFVZOOMTRUX5BMIUCIIE libby

    seek,  youre funny.  you cant see fox and msnbc are the equivalent?? How many republican presidential candidates have worked for fox?????  How many republican candidates have worked for msnbc? 

    These arguements are such a waste of time – people like SEEk will never see it and the ultra liberals wont either.  And in the mean time people like hannity, limbaugh, olbermann, ed, maddow make millions dividing our country and people like seek keep eating it up.  

    How many times can we have these arguments??   Doesnt it truly come down to people jsut wanting to be right and say I told you so? Its very similar to how we root for our home sport teams.  No one is going to change their mind.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XDJ7ZRFVZOOMTRUX5BMIUCIIE libby

    dude, check out poilitfact, a non biased site on fact checking in politics.  There is a whole page listing them. here is oneThe Truth-O-Meter Says:Says the Texas State Board of Education is considering eliminating references to Christmas and the Constitution in textbooks.
    Gretchen Carlson on Wednesday, March 10th, 2010 in an episode of Fox & Friends
    Fox News anchor Gretchen Carlson says the State Board of Education is considering eliminating Christmas and the Constitution from textbooksShare this story:

    Texas Textbook WarsAfter spending most of Wednesday gathering public comment, the Texas State Board of Education began hashing out how history, government and economics are taught in Texas public schools.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7XDJ7ZRFVZOOMTRUX5BMIUCIIE libby

    his approval ratingis still near double george bush’s

  • Pit Boss

    Quit jerking each other off ya psychopaths. Quick Google search would have sufficed.

    http://foxnewslies.net/

  • Anonymous

    By your half wit logic, just because you say these fiction opinions are facts, it becomes true! You will always change the rules and move the goal post to try and gain a point. When confronted with ‘facts’ you discount and are blind, so by “tea” standards “it doesn’t count”, you can’t lose! When you only get your information from “Fox” and “tea” blogs, then I’m sure a trained sheep will always believe they’re correct. You do get points for trying so hard, or should that credit go to your friend Goebbels for some fine “tea propaganda”?

  • ganymede

    While I agree with much of what you have to say, I think you are overly depressed about the current situation and should hold off your departure. First of all there is no left or right in this country. There are just totally bought off corporationalists (Republicans/tea partiers) and the partially bought off corporationalists (Democrats). Fox is pretty much the major outlet for Republicans and that alone tells you a lot about their integrity. If there was so much support for extreme reactionary views there would be more mainstream rightwing television channels. Most of the rest of mainstream media is apolitical and just as much in the hands of corporations as Fox. When it comes to who is telling the biggest lies, all you have to do is watch the current Republican presidential contenders or listen to O’Reilly, Hannity et al.. They are nearly all living in a parallel universe world where knowledge of science, history,  general life experience and compassion for others are askew from reality, and some of them like Perry, Gingrich, Palin, and Bachmann are corrupt beyond belief and will, if given the chance, turn us into a banana republic faster than you can slip on a banana peel. However, there is a silver lining and expect to see over the next few months a shift in this country as people wake up to the obvious fact that the Republicans are totally bankrupt and don’t have a clue of how to get us out of this mess, and that Obama, who has been disappointing, will get on with a watered down jobs program that will at least get us moving in the right direction. It’s really a tragic situation that we don’t have a viable opposition like they do in most industrial countries. It’s equally tragic that we’ve allowed ourselves to get this close to being taken over by barbarians. But decency and commonsense will prevail.

  • Anonymous

    so like an idiot, I click on media matters and the first Fox New lies is some stupid artist who wanted to bring a sign that Fox New Lies but he doesn’t know about what.

    2nd article – about Poverty level – claims the right misused the data and then went on the say that it would have been a lot worse if Obama hadn’t extended unemployment.  In other words, the right used the data issued, their beef was that the right didn’t add an addendum saying “but it would have been even worse without Obama stepping in” b.ssssssssss!  Talk about biased twits.

    IN OTHER WORDS – THERE WAS NO LIE IN EITHER CASE – IT WAS A PILE OF LIES BY MEDIAMATTERS!  You guys are nuts who live and breath this junk and don’t even check to see what the supposed lie was!

  • Anonymous

    as long as the daily show hires a more diverse staff, he can mock who he wants.  Watching his writing staff tape at the Emmy show, it felt like watching a show of Mad Man from the 50′s and not a top show in 2011.  

  • Mandingo ate your baby

    If you think he’s wrong, it’s you who needs help boobie.

  • http://twitter.com/KitterT Rosemarie Treece

    It was the context in which she said it.  The question was something like what are your foreign policy qualifications, and that was one of her answers listed, that Russia could be seen from parts of Alaska. When McCain’s surrogates were asked the same question, they listed her role as commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard.  She was absolutely unqualified in foreign policy, never expressed any interest in such, and showed her ignorance by making that statement. I guess if she was running for Vice-President in 1962, it might have been pertinent.  What is your point?

  • Mandingo ate your baby

    Ailes has done more to destroy this nation than any living man today.

  • Anonymous

    Did you know that 666, is 999, upside down?

    “Clearly, both of them a (sic) very similar.”

    Purveyor

  • Bobby

    LIBBY….Geo. Bush had 8 years to make an ass out of himself….Obummer has done a superior job of making a fool  and an ass out of him self and all the Librocrats in just 2 1/2 years.  When will you people remember that Bush is GONE….forever.  Soon Obummer will be too.  He can join Jimmy Carter, and walk down the yellow brick road, hug trees, smell unicorn farts together.

  • Bobby

    Get a grip, Pit Boss….Rachel is putting on rubber gloves now to service you.  Also, your URL sucks like you do.  Both just a bunch of liberal propaganda put together by a clusterf- -k of Socialist morons.

  • Djbobby

    John Stewart Jumped the shark?…..What then here ground?……..

  • Bobby

    Go eat a mango Mandingo….swallow it down with some really strong Tea made with BIG Tea Bags.

  • Bobby

    Sharpo….you are becoming dull.  Just shut up.

  • Bobby

    JeeeesUs…what a pissing contest this has become.  “Mine is bigger than yours”…”no it’s not”…well Obama’s is much bigger than Bush’s.”….on and on and on.  Nothing will be solved until 2012, when  Democrats are defeated for good.

  • Anonymous

    Were I to be led through life or a political journey, by way of a mantra, a phrase, a simple bellwether of my own and other’s inclinations, I would know, most assuredly, that I had become a “patsy,” a “useful idiot,” a failure!

    Yet, somehow in your assumed intellect, you have chosen “Fox Lies” as your clarion, without recognizing the historic folly of such an action.

    How many cultures throughout history have followed an insubstantial call to arms, only to find their own and their compatriots, demise?

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k89BMjzkThA&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h172eAPdPFo&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izp5q5pqhe0&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS1NWYV1i_E&feature=related

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ZreK7CslA&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbX-2X7_h-M&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC8BBIwrbLU&NR=1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fACCHgAAGGI&feature=related
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7G_IIu-_v4&feature=relmfu
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lJIWl6Nf30
     That;s just for starters

    Fox news is a small % news and the large majority conservative propaganda. They are regularly dishonest. It’s like attack ads during a campaign that purposely exaggerate and distort the facts, only they do it 24/7.

    It’s been pointed out and demonstrated over and over again.
    Here’s our favorite satirist brilliantly explaining how the Fox News and opinion shows, work together.
    http://www.aoltv.com/2009/10/30/jon-stewart-explains-fox-news/
     And here he is again busting Wallace and Fox’s dishonest techniques.

    Jon understands their game and can articulate it in much more detail than “Fox News Lies”

  • Bobby

    Try learning English first…then we will let you practice on other languages.  Good Boy …now go lay your little head down on your Obummer pillow that mommie made for you….time for your nap.

  • Bobby

    OMG….you have completely snapped.  You really need serious help.

  • Anonymous

    Did CNN just host a Republican debate with the Tea Party? That socialist, Marxist, liberal network? when have they ever partnered with the progressive caucus, or Move on.org?   ill answer that for you……….Never

  • LibelFreeZone

    I agree.  They all lie.  The media is just one big pulsing sack of liars.

  • Anonymous

    Meghan Kelly – you have no clue where she stands    WFT?????  

  • Anonymous

    Yea their slogan “Fair and balanced” and the word “news” in logo.

  • Pit Boss

    You’re an angry guy, Bobby. See, this is what FoxNews’ constant fear mongering does to a person’s psyche.

    You should consider actually reading some of the lies put forth by your heroes at FoxNews. It’s pretty disturbing.

  • Bobby

    Nope…just gave a perfect description of he Libs. and Obama, who is now trying to raise 1.5 TRILLION dollars in NEW tax revenue.  Just what America needs…MORE taxes.  This man has to insane.

  • Anonymous

    What is the difference between “pedantic,” and “pedagogic?”

    There is little I find more unsavory, than being lectured too, by a pedant, particularly one who seems to be enthralled by Jon Stewart…

    Purveyor

  • Bobby

    Well…if Stewart’s ship has sailed….pray that it hits a coral reef….soon.

  • Bobby

    He certaily has become more obnoxious!!

  • Anonymous

    COSMO,  

    If BIG EDDY, SEEK or myself asserted the Chinese “Cultural Revolution” was a BAD thing, I am certain, you’d argue the “Cultural Revolution” was a GOOD thing!  LOL  

    Furthermore, you probably thought the “Gulag Archipelago” was pure fiction?  HLO (Haughty laugh out loud)

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • Anonymous

    She was unqualified in foreign policy and was running for VP
    Obama was elected as President and completely unqualified in foreign policy.

    Do you see the disconnect?  Do you wonder why the right thinks the left is a hypocritical bunch at best?

  • Anonymous

    learn how to spell

  • Bobby
  • Anonymous

    sorry cosmo, not interested.  It is a pile of crap wrapped up for you guys to salivate over.  Nothing is true.  The left’s major complaint appears to be that Fox reports the news without spin and the left wants the left view spun.

    As per my example.  They called Fox a liar over the poverty percentage announced this week.  Fox announced it correctly but the left wanted them to add “but for our Lord and Savior it would have been even worse”.  Seriously, that’s nuts. But, they called it a lie – there was no lie.   Fox didn’t say while reporting “we told you his grand scheme wouldn’t work” – so…..

  • Anonymous

    The
    reason we have Jon Stewart is; Roger Ailes is laying low.

  • Anonymous

    To make that all somehow pass the laugh test, you have to somehow account for the fact that the vast majority of media in this country is controlled by 6 huge multinational corporations:  Viacom, NewsCorp,Time-Warner, Disney, Comcast and Clear Channel.    Each of these corporations stands to reap billions more profit in a climate where taxation and regulation are dictated by Republicans rather than Democrats.  However, to buy the fantastically successful propeganda line that the media is inherantly liberal – one that Neo Con Bill Kristol admitted was the best piece of Right Wing messaging in 50 years — you have to buy that the editors and managers of those media outlets (who tend more to be conserative according to polls and research) let the reporters (who tend to be more liberal according to same research) present messages and stories that somehow undercut the bottom line of these companies.   

    When it comes to stories that deal with fiscal issues (as opposed to social ends like racism, right to life, separation of church and state, etc..)  you can be sure that the final product that airs on NBC, ABC, CNN, or any Clear Channel station will be very pro corporate bottom line.   (Lets not forget that the New York Times was the loudest and most aggressive champion of the war in Iraq…)

  • Anonymous

    I don’t have a clue.  There are days I’m convinced she is liberal and other days I’m sure she’s right wing, so….

    for instance her strong stance on working mothers and time off.  Very liberal.

    Either way, I’ve just decided that since I can’t really tell – it depends on the story what her stance is, she is genuine.  We all have issues that we don’t necessarily agree with our party of choice (hopefully).  Surely we aren’t so mindless that anything anyone says we think is absolutely the same as what we think.  

    I agree with some of Ron Paul and yet I think he’s a wacko on a lot of issues.  I liked some of Clinton’s points and yet I’m not a democrat.  

    I wish the political climate would cool down.  This great partisan divide is ripping the fabric of the Country and I don’t see any peace keepers on either side.  The closest would be Ryan, who conducts himself as an adult, but he’s not running so….

  • Anonymous

    LOL!! That pretty much discredits the article right there.

    I have to wonder why the author has a problem with an intelligent comic going on other shows and offering a serious opinion or defending himself when challenged as he was by Wallace. I’ve read and/or watched a lot of interviews with Jon and others from the show. One thing that is repeated is that he and they were surprised at what they saw and learned when the show first began about how the media works. Jon has a pretty consistent view that comes from years of observing the media, that is revealed in his comedy and in his personal POV. The media, the 24/7 news channels could be and should be actually informing the public of relevant facts on very serious issues. Instead they create and highlight superficial conflict and controversy because it’s a much cheaper way to create ratings. He expresses that in his comedy, and repeats and defends it on a personal level in interviews. It’s not his role to go on other shows and entertain their audiences by being funny. That’s why he went on Crossfire and went after them for only pretending to do the job they actually should be doing.

    He refers to Jon as self important and dim witted? He’s clueless. It takes plenty of wit and a keen mind to do the kind of biting satire Jon does night after night. And, while Jon has admitted to feeling the temptation to use his popularity to be more of an activist, he has decided not to go that route. I was surprised at the rally that he spoke seriously for just a few minutes, but people in attendance loved it. Jon’s unique position as a satirist fake newsman is that he can point out the bullshit and openly call it bullshit in a way the “real” news can’t or just doesn’t dare.That’s why his fans like him. They watch the news and politics and think “what a load of crap” and then Jon comes on and in a funny clever way says “that’s a load of crap”  and they love him for it. Let’s ad that Jon is very smart, and has excellent reasoning , so when he gets serious his take downs are not just rants , but razor sharp relevant points. His take down of Jim Cramer is a great example of that. Let’s keep in mind that Jon didn’t ambush Cramer. He had slapped around a totally different guy on CNBC and then Cramer decided to come on and defend them. He failed big time.
    http://www.indecisionforever.com/2009/03/13/jon-stewart-and-jim-cramer-the-extended-daily-show-interview/

    Comparing Jon Stewart and his lone half hour 4 days a week , to the head of a 24/7 network that specializes in not only the conservative view, but consistently distorting the facts, is a ridiculous comparison. What’s hilarious is that after the Wallace interview nearly all the Fox shows were going after Jon and implying he might be racist. {yeah, they don’t get marching orders though, not ever} and still with his half hour he made them look foolish. As a professional comic Jon understands that satire works best when it’s grounded in the truth, so it’s part of his job as a satirist to keep truth in the joke.  It’s pretty hard for Fox to bust Jon when 95% of what he accuses them of is accurate.

  • Anonymous

    His background is in Hollywood? He did a few movies and found out he wasn’t an actor. He grew up in Jersey and is now a true New Yorker.

  • Anonymous

    I see. You ask someone to name one and when I give you a list of pretty clear examples made up of actual clips from Fox , you just blow it off and refuse to look at it.

    Then you cite an example of something I never mentioned as if that proves all the examples I gave you don’t count.  So if the left is dishonest , or gets something wrong, that somehow means Fox is never dishonest and is always right and there’s no need to consider anything else. What horrible logic.

    That’s the whole point of Fox’s “we’re the victim of liberal bias, so what we do can’t be biased” brainwashing bullshit that JS explains so well. Look, it’s simple, If MSNBC lies and pulls some partisan distortion of the facts , {and they do}  that’s on them and doesn’t make Fox any more or less right or honest. If Fox is dishonest and pulls some partisan distortion {and they do} that doesn’t equate to defending MSNBC’s dishonesty.
    I’ve said it before , I welcome the honest informed pov of both conservatives and liberals because I think as a nation we need that balance. My problem is that although Fox is conservative their goal isn’t to honestly inform. The same goes for MSNBC on the liberal side.

  • Anonymous

    @055030abc79d9c73ede249813ad034c5:disqus

    I never said the left didn’t lie so let’s not change the topic. I responded to a specific request for examples of Fox news lying.

  • Anonymous

    You’re not exactly proving your thoughtfulness by constantly repeating conservative talking points and joining in on the insult fest.

  • Anonymous

    You should seriously examine the controversy about Fox news viewers being misinformed. You know the pros and cons as Fox presents them , which is not nearly the same thing as being informed.

    I learned a long time ago that I learn a lot more when I listen to informed people who disagree with me and make an effort to understand their argument.

  • Anonymous

    There’s a whole list I provided above. Enjoy.

  • Anonymous

    Go back and check that list that shows Hannity and O Rielly lying outright.

  • Anonymous

    Just posted a fairly long list above, and it’s incomplete. Knock yourself out.

  • insideguy

     I read the article 3 times I just don’t see the comparison but what the hell people have to right about something

  • insideguy

    write that is:)

  • Bobby

    Dan:  Not changing the topic….if you are going to the trouble to put YourTube examples up about Fox, then it’s “fair and balanced” to have Youtube examples up for MSNBE.  Fair enough???

  • Bobby

    CHUCK:  Here are a few examples of Liberal Lies from the best MSNBC:
     here are a few lies from the left:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…These are but a few that you can find on YouTube of how stupid the left is.

  • Anonymous

    “for instance her strong stance on working mothers and time off.  Very liberal.”

    No… just common sense.   but i guess that it is a conservative mind that the government should be involved in having any kind of requirement to help people until YOU need it then you change your tune.
    She was spewing on about forcing employers to give workers time off for family and how bad that is. Then she has a kid and thinks it is common sense to let newborns and mothers have time together before forcing them back to work if they wat to keep their jobs.

  • Anonymous

    Normally, but I was responding to a specific request, which was the only topic of discussion, not who is and who isn’t honest.

    If I say Fox is dishonest, that in no way implies MSNBC isn’t. OTOH, if
    you were to say , “Yes Fox is dishonest , {dealing with the subject} and
    added your examples to say “and so is MSNBC, I’d  likely agree, but you didn’t adresss the topic at all.

  • Anonymous

    Wait, Stewart is the president of the third largest media corporation?  When did that happen, I thought he was just the host of a half hour comedy show…

    Maybe the title should read ‘Conservatives have the president of the third largest media corporation and the Left has the host of a half hour Comedy show.’ 

    But that would now follow the ‘liberal media’ meme would it.

  • Anonymous

    Government spending skyrocketed under Bush – more than President Obama.  Does that make Bush and conservatives entitlement-gods/entitlement sheeple?  BTW by ‘entitlement-God’ are you referring to the fact that the majority of corporations in the US pay little or no Federal Income Tax or the fact that the top 1% of the rich control 20% of the wealth in the US?

    Just wondering

  • Anonymous

    Government spending skyrocketed under Bush – more than President Obama.  Does that make Bush and conservatives entitlement-gods/entitlement sheeple?  BTW by ‘entitlement-God’ are you referring to the fact that the majority of corporations in the US pay little or no Federal Income Tax or the fact that the top 1% of the rich control 20% of the wealth in the US?

    Just wondering

  • Anonymous

    Just read the whole Esquire article. It’s oddly compelling. Through the first half the author sounds like a disgruntled conservative who needs to take Jon down a notch by throwing in snide remarks in with his analysis and personal opinion. It smacks a little of jealousy and trying a little to hard to find fault because of it.
    In the 2nd half he suggests {and just outright claims} that for all Jon’s “I’m just a comic” routine he wrestles with the desire and dream of being more than that. I think that’s probably true and Jon has admitted as much. Jon spent the last 12 years examining politics and media looking for comedic material. It understandable that it might leave him weary, a little jaded, and longing for someone to do the job the media ought to be doing. He wonders if maybe he should do it, which would be a big leap and risk.
    I happen to very much agree with Jon that in general the media , so corporate owned at this point, is failing in doing their job of actually informing the public on relevant issues and rooting out corruption. During his interview  with Maddow and he articulated his view pretty clearly. The conflict that the media has latched onto is blue vs red, conservative vs liberal, as if one is right and the other wrong, one good and the other bad. Jon’s view is that the conflict that should be focused on is  between corruption and not corrupt. Between lies and honesty in what the public is being told. Since no major network seems to want to try that, Jon wonders if someone could. I suppose finding a billionaire or two to support such a network might be quite a trick.

  • Anonymous

     gadfly is just (mostly) stating facts

    1. Jon Stewart is a comedian who plays a news guy on TV – thats a fact
    2. Roger Ailes is a Republican who runs a TV channel (FOX News) – that is a fact.
    3. Ailes is a ‘hack’ – that is opinion
    4. Ailes uses lies and smears to attack the left – that is a fact.

    Thus the ‘Dems. party crap’ gadfly is spreading is, Truth.  Truth, to many conservatives is, crap.

    Educate yourself a little bit about your media and Mr. Ailes – it is interesting http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525

  • Anonymous

    This kind of stuff is pretty amusing coming from someone who refuses to see the dishonesty on Fox that seems perfectly obvious. Asks for examples and then refuses to honestly consider the ones offered,

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OFANCMGBMRWQGSGCVPZSBAGZIE Bobby

    Rolling Stone is just another liberal noise maker. A smattering of
    entertainment articles, and always

    a blob of liberal crap. I think they started their slippery slide when
    their owner decided he like boys better than gals. And that is
    fine….it’s his choice and nothing wrong with that. It just
    seems it went the way of San Francisco after that.

  • Anonymous

    You have to look at the comment I responded to.

  • Anonymous

    Now if only this was a Rolling Stone article.

  • Guest

    While Fox news is known by most for lying, the most damage they do is spin. For instance, there is a series of emails from Fox top brass about the branding of anything to do with climate to place doubt in people’s minds. They frame it as a 50-50 issue (50 % of scientists say it’s man-made, 50% say it’s not happening at all or is not human’s fault), when in fact 98% of scientists believe global warming is man-made. Also, during the health care debates, Fox found out that calling single-payer health care (Medicare, but for everyone) a “public option” was polling too well, so they started calling it a “government option.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/tony.westover Tony Westover

    I haven’t read the article yet, but I think I’m gonna like it. Jon Stewart had been an intellectual coward hiding behind his scripted-by-others comedy for years. The irony that he’s deliberately transformed into the very thing that his writers mock every night except Fridays is about as subtle as a baseball to your face.

  • mark devoe

    Funny, I watched ABC this morning and saw Mitch McConnell being interviewed…I watched CNN last night and they had Marco Rubio on for his Commentary….The TEA PARTY debate was hosted by CNN…Charles Krauthammer, Dick Cheney, George Will, Bill Kristol and on and on are contributing writers to both the Times and the Post….Sh-t, Sarah Palin has done editorials for both! 

    Get over this tired Heritage Foundation funded “Liberal Media” cr-p.  As Joseph Stalin said, the key to controlling the populous is controlling the media.  The mantra of “Liberal media” is just a way to ensure the mindless stick to the positional media of the right.   To quote Matt Labash, Senior Writer at the Weekly Standard when asked why the Conservative positional media has enjoyed success:

    “Because they feed the rage. We bring the pain to the liberal media. I
    say that mockingly, but it’s true somewhat. We come with a strong point
    of view and people like point of view journalism. While all these
    hand-wringing Freedom Forum types talk about objectivity, the
    conservative media likes to rap the liberal media on the knuckles for
    not being objective. We’ve created this cottage industry in which it
    pays to be un-objective. It pays to be subjective as much as possible.
    It’s a great way to have your cake and eat it too. Criticize other
    people for not being objective. Be as subjective as you want. It’s a
    great little racket. I’m glad we found it actually.”

    So feel good that you bought into the racket…

  • Hugo Daun

    The microcosm of what is wrong with Fox is that Fox exists and it drives the left nuts.

    Ridiculous!

    Personally, I am thankful for FNC.

    It provides plenty of unintentional comedy…AND, as long as FNC’s mouth-breathing fans are planted in front of their TVs, they aren’t out in the world mucking things up.

    LONG LIVE FNC!

  • mark devoe

    Are you kidding me!!! Meaghan Kelly of the “Black Panthers are coming!  Blacks running wild” fame?  PLEASE!  I watch Fox News and other than Wallace and Shepard Smith, the rest are nothing but entertainers pushing a positional agenda.  Beyond the Prime Time ranters, you have the morning triumvirate of Doocey, Kilmead and Carlson who revel in subjective spin and make a living out of “Some say” factual commentary…

    If all you watch on Fox is Shepard Smith’s actual news show and Chris Wallace’s Sunday show, than you are getting a pretty balanced report…The other 160 hours in a week is subjective “fear and loathing” directed towards their white, aged, conservative base…

  • Anonymous

    “Funny, I watched ABC this morning and saw Mitch McConnell being interviewed…”

    Tel me, was George Stephonopolous – former Chief Domestic Political Adviser to BIll Clinton – conducting the interview?

    I wonder how many former chief advisers to Republican presidents are now working in the capacity of a “non-partisan” journalist at a major over-the-air broadcast network.

  • cdnhawk

    yes…take the A out of his name and rearrange the letters…and you get ..lies…..Faux New’s specialty

  • Bobby

    The Rolling Stone remark did not  put in the correct place.   back up about 11 comments and you will see it’s a reply to donow.

  • Cecelia

    Or a Murdoch or two?

  • Anonymous

    And the left also has “Esquire”….

  • http://ja-js.blogtownhall.com Chuck Fowler

    Thanks, Bobby, but you do know that’s not really MSNBC. It’s MSLSD, because they’re definitely dropping something over there.

  • http://ja-js.blogtownhall.com Chuck Fowler

    I do read the news, JayMagoo — New York Times, Washington Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe, France 24, among several others online, plus I do my own research on questionable items. Where do you get your “news”?

    But, ummm, I still didn’t see ONE substantiated, factually based instance of Fox lying in your post. Just more liberal ranting. Maybe it’s time for Mr. Magoo to change his glasses?

  • Anonymous

    Went back and read it. I now understand why you don’t know post from reply.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GGPGKVCSEW6Y4GVS3IDSBAG2IY Dr Steve

    Irish, I applaud your effort but have to ask why are you attempting to use rational, factual discourse with “true believers”

    seek, purveyor and their ilk take on faith that “facts have a known liberal bias” (to quote another modern satirist!)

    You could have people like that PRESENT as President Obama, for example, revised the “57 states” comment and, say, when Michele Bachmann states the Revolutionary War started in Concord, NH and they would swear that Obama NEVER corrected himself and Bachmann was never wrong.

    It is truly a group delusion and mere facts will not cure them of it. 

  • Laura Z

    Mr. Monteith, I might say that what caconservative said about guesty applies to you as well.

  • http://twitter.com/grimcity Neal Boyd

    Yeah, he’s pretty open about his political philosophy. But it’s not as if his comedy attempts to conceal that in any way.

  • BlackSheep

    Is it our fault that facts have a liberal bias?

  • http://twitter.com/TJspeakout TJ Johnson

    Many interesting arguments here, but one that can’t be ignored:  Jon Stewart has galvanized an important audience that stands left of center.  Roger Ailes, on the other hand, has given voice to the so-called “Silent Majority” and whether or not you agree with his politics, Ailes built a powerhouse.  Although both have an incredibly loyal audience, I’d think it’s a stretch to call Stewart the Roger Ailes of the Left.  Ailes has built a huge powerhouse over the past 15 years and reaches so many more people (and politicians) than Stewart’s four-times-a-week program ever could.

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