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Judge Andrew Napolitano On Bush And Cheney ‘They Should Have Been Indicted’

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This weekend Fox Business host (and frequent Fox News contributor) Judge Andrew Napolitano sat down with Ralph Nader to discuss, among other things, allegations that, under the Bush Administration detainees civil rights were violated. In the interview that aired on C-Span, Napolitano said of former President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney that they “should have been indicted” for torture.
When asked if the same policies exist under President Obama, Napolitano claimed that, as far as he knew, they did.

While the lion’s share of the interview focused on the alleged transgressions of Bush and Cheney, Napolitano and Nader did not leave Obama off the hook, ostensibly calling the sitting President “the prosecutor, the judge, the juror and the executor” because he has the power to kill Americans on foreign soil, if they are considered to be engaged in acts of terrorism against America.

(H/T Think Progress)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Kaib/1091662620 Josh Kaib

    Judge Napolitano is not just a contributor. The more accurate title is “Senior Judicial Analyst.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Noland/1343446359 Dave Noland

    I agree with Judge Napolitano on this one point.

  • Ninja

    The judge does make some interesting points, but I’m not quite sure I agree that Constitutional rights should be applied to foreign terrorists.

  • MichelleF

    So based on your piece, Colby, the correct title would be:

    Judge Andrew Napolitano On Bush, Cheney, Obama, and Biden ‘They Should Have Been Indicted’.

    Consider me checked!

  • http://www.youtube.com/cmdrgmh cmdrgmh

    So the right wing has not attacked Napolitano yet. I would guess he won’t be on Fox anytime soon.

  • shootfromthehip

    Napolitano is a communist, marxist, socialist anti-American traitor!

    I’m sure Hannity will say as much on his show tonight, right?

    I mean, he actually suggested Bush go to jail!

    This is sick twisted progressive poison that is eating away at our country.

    Beck will no doubt go after him hard tonight.

    AM I RIGHT, MICHELLE F???????

  • murf

    Fox News = Fair & Balanced

    Hey progressives/Liberals I thought Fox wasn’t real news ?

    .. What’s that ? Oh , only when it benefits your narrative .. Got it.

  • MichelleF

    Shoot, I disagree with Napolitano on this, but I won’t condemn him. I think Obama should continue (as he appears to be doing) with the Bush era procedures and NOT lose an ounce of sleep over it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gordon-Bloyer/537945868 Gordon Bloyer

    The judge is usually right but on this one he doesn’t have a clue. He keeps trying to give our rights to non-citizens. He is in left field on this one. Also there is no evidence that Bush or Cheney ordered any torture and I don’t care what anyone says waterboarding is NOT torture.

  • shootfromthehip

    You’ll notice that Judge Andrew Napolitano did not SAY any of these things on Fox. He said them on CSPAN.

    You’ll also notice that he is not officially on staff at FNC.

    I will give them credit for putting him on the air, when they do.

    One of the few truly wise and independent voices on GOP TV a.k.a. Fox.

  • shootfromthehip

    “but I won’t condemn him.”

    Of course you won’t condemn him.

    Because he is not a Democrat.

    Different rules apply for you, Michelle, which is why we all think you are a joke.

  • MichelleF

    Ah but shoot, I also said I wouldn’t condemn Obama for doing the same thing I didn’t condemn Bush for, but you didn’t point that out, did you?

    and ps, if I cared one wit about what you liberal loons thought about me, that may hurt. Alas, I couldn’t care less!

  • murf

    Judge Napolitano hosts ” Freedom Watch ” on Fox Business , and guest host for Glenn Beck , so yes he is official staff in the Fox family.

  • ChuckfromTacoma

    Woo Boy!! This is going to confuse the crap out of some FOX haters. Particularly all of them that have never or rarely watched FNC but hate the network because their liberal puppet masters tell them to hate it. But it really is just another day on FNC with their balanced opinions from many sources.

  • Azarkhan

    “Bush rounded up thousands of Americans…and they were thrown in jail”

    Really? Please provide proof that “thousands of Americans” were rounded up and thrown in jail.

    I think Ralph Nader, in his senility, is confusing Pres Bush with Pres Franklin Roosevelt, who rounded up thousands of Japanese-American citizens and tossed them into internment camps.

    BTW, the Obama regime has ordered Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen, to be killed. I don’t disagree with that, but it is ironic that Mr. “I’m gonna shut down Guantanamo Bay” Obama has ordered the execution of an American citizen without due process.

  • Ted

    Right Gordo – but you do have a clue; let me introduce you to a door knob. Jesus, you and MichelleF ought to get together and study for your GED before going unhinged with more scintillating commentary. Are you two tea-bagging (thats right MichelleF, tea-bagging) rodeo clown wanna-be’s deliberately being slow or does it come naturally?

  • MichelleF

    Ted, do you EVER have anything of substance to add? All we seem to get are your tired, tea-bagging comments. I mean come on, did you even look at the links I sent you on how to insult without looking like a complete moron!?

    Now stay where you are, the orderly’s are on their way!

  • Ted

    MichelleF – well if I were a shut-in , like you apparently are, I’d have all day to cut and paste and drink Big Gulps and eat bags of Cheeto’s and blather on about nothing, which you evidently are an expert,. If you think you add anything of substance you are deluding yourself. You are a joke and the quintessential tea-bagger and what’s really amusing is that you see yourself as some sort of sage. Now, take your time, look up the big words and then add something of substance and original for a change. You can’t.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Timsah/1113150152 Robert Timsah

    SOMEONE SAID: I’m not quite sure I agree that Constitutional rights should be applied to foreign terrorists.

    I thought we were bringing democracy to the middle east and “ending tyranny in the world”? What better way to do that than to lead by example? This is why we have the war on terror. We’d rather kill them than talk to them. Our rights come to us from God, not location of birth so the Judge is 100% correct. If we REALLY believe it then it should apply to non-Americans as well.

    Truth is, the ruling elites don’t believe in personal rights. They only believe in what’s best for the “collective” and even then that collective MUST INCLUDE THE RULING ELITE.

  • Ninja

    Poor Ted, they don’t let him use a computer all day long so he comes home after work and loves to say tea-bagger as much as he can. Why don’t you have your union negotiate a few minutes of internet time per day in your next contract?

  • Iris

    ChickfromTacoma, what does Faux news have to do with this, the guy was on C-SPAN.

  • Ninja

    SOMEONE ELSE SAID: I thought we were bringing democracy to the middle east and “ending tyranny in the world”? What better way to do that than to lead by example? This is why we have the war on terror. We’d rather kill them than talk to them. Our rights come to us from God, not location of birth so the Judge is 100% correct. If we REALLY believe it then it should apply to non-Americans as well.

    You do realize we are not trying to give the gift of democracy to those in al-qaeda, the taliban or bathist regimes right? Those are the very people we are fighting to rid the region of, those same people that are 100% against personal liberty. We are trying to give the people in those regions a say in what their own personal liberties are, not force them to accept our Constitution.

  • Ted

    Poor, poor ninja, poor ninja – tragically poor ninja. Horribly poor tea-bag-esque ninja. What’s it like to be a tea-bagger, thats right ninja (good Christ, is ninja really the best you could come up with?) tea-bagger?

  • ramjet

    Ted,

    STFU, please.

    Sincerely,
    ramjet

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    Gordon Bloyer said:
    The judge is usually right but on this one he doesn’t have a clue. He keeps trying to give our rights to non-citizens. He is in left field on this one. Also there is no evidence that Bush or Cheney ordered any torture and I don’t care what anyone says waterboarding is NOT torture.

    A judge “has no clue” about the law but you do?

    Waterboarding forces your body into a panic attack. I’m not making a comparison, that is exactly what waterboarding does. Panic attacks are hell. Anyone who has had one will tell you the same. Many will say that it was extremely traumatic. If intentionally causing a panic attack isn’t torture, I don’t know what is.

  • shootfromthehip

    “You do realize we are not trying to give the gift of democracy to those in al-qaeda, the taliban or bathist regimes right? Those are the very people we are fighting to rid the region of, those same people that are 100% against personal liberty.”

    Wow, Ninja. It is hopelessly naïve people like you, who think in the most simplistic terms (see GW Bush at the beginning of the war and Paul Bremer) that got American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians killed.

    We eventually figured out (after years of smarter policy wonks, i.e. academics and Democrats, screamed loud enough to the then powers that be), that the Bathists were not our enemy, but potentially our friends. All they wanted was a paycheck and respect.

    They get Democracy, too (save for Saddam’s very small inner circle).

  • Ted

    ramjet – is the complete name “Roger ramjet?” By the way, that is probably the most coherent you’ve been in what, years?

  • redleaf

    Andrew’s got some ‘splaining to do with the FNC front office.
    He can’t say stuff like that on Fox, but can he say it on another channel?
    If you watch the clip, he’s identified as “Author: Lies the Government Told You.” He is NOT identified as a Fox news talent. So it’s possible he thought he had safe harbor to say what he really thinks. If he’s reprimanded by FNC management, we’ll only know if it leaks (or we never see him again on FNC).

  • ramjet

    Beatings, breaking bones, mock executions, forced to watch real executions of a friend, electric shock, being hung by your arms tied behind your back, starvation, withholding medical treatment, etc, etc, etc.

  • notsofast

    Barry said he would close Gitmo within one year. Lie!

    Barry said he would end rendition. Lie!

    Barry said he would end electronic telephone taps. Lie!

  • notsofast

    redleaf said:
    Andrew’s got some ’splaining to do with the FNC front office.
    He can’t say stuff like that on Fox,

    Sorry, FOX is not MSNBC and KO who got Donny Deutsch banned for weeks just for mentioning KO’s name.

  • redleaf

    Oh Lord. Here we go.
    “Lie” means he had no intention of closing Gitmo, ending rendition or ending electronic telephone tags, but deliberately misled the voters.

    More likely he honestly wanted to do those things but either A) changed his mind once given presidential access to all relevant information or B) wanted to, but faced too much political pressure and couldn’t get it through.

    Nether of those options mean he maliciously said something he knew to be untrue. Doesn’t mean liberals shouldn’t be disappointed. But I understand how saying Obama “lied” serves your partisan purposes.

    Now please go back to stroking your shotgun and adding comments on Show Me Obama’s Birth Certificate message boards.

  • shootfromthehip

    Notsofast, you think Bill O’reilly doesn’t hold similar sway at Fox?

    He does.

  • Ninja

    Ted said:
    Poor, poor ninja, poor ninja – tragically poor ninja. Horribly poor tea-bag-esque ninja. What’s it like to be a tea-bagger, thats right ninja (good Christ, is ninja really the best you could come up with?) tea-bagger?

    Ted your words cut almost as good as that box cutter you use all day at the factory. Tea baggee homophobe.

  • notsofast

    redleaf said:
    Oh Lord. Here we go.
    “Lie” means he had no intention of closing Gitmo, ending rendition or ending electronic telephone tags, but deliberately misled the voters.

    More likely he honestly wanted to do those things but either A) changed his mind once given presidential access to all relevant information or B) wanted to, but faced too much political pressure and couldn’t get it through.

    Nether of those options mean he maliciously said something he knew to be untrue. Doesn’t mean liberals shouldn’t be disappointed. But I understand how saying Obama “lied” serves your partisan purposes.

    Now please go back to stroking your shotgun and adding comments on Show Me Obama’s Birth Certificate message boards.

    Lol- sorry trog- barry lied and you believed it. You are a typical lib. Now, please call us all racists! LMAO

  • notsofast

    shootfromthehip said:
    Notsofast, you think Bill O’reilly doesn’t hold similar sway at Fox?

    He does.

    Show me where he got an on-air person banned. Your comment shows you approved of what MSNBC did.

    Typical.

  • murf

    Redleaf

    How do you splain ‘ FOX allowing Alan Colmes to bash Bush during his entire 8 year presidency ? Moron.

  • Ted

    ninja – you didn’t answer the question. Do you take your name after the ninja turtles, or some other ninja; maybe ninja…tea-baggers? Hmmmmm?

  • notsofast

    Redleaf, tell us all your 9/11 Truther stories.

    I need a laugh.

  • notsofast

    notsofast said:
    Nether of those options mean he maliciously said something he knew to be untrue. Doesn’t mean liberals shouldn’t be disappointed. But I understand how saying Obama “lied” serves your partisan purposes.

    Gitmo Unlikely to Close by 2013?

    President Obama made several big promises on the campaign trail—foremost among them, to close Guantanamo Bay. After missing his initial deadline of January 2010, amid political opposition and shifting priorities, it’s now looking increasingly unlikely that the White House will successfully shut it down by 2013. Earlier this year, the administration vowed to move detainees to a prison in Illinois, but obstacles to that plan have arisen in Congress, and Obama’s done little to vanquish them. “There is a lot of inertia” against closing Gitmo, “and the administration is not putting a lot of energy behind their position that I can see,” Senator Carl Levin, who supports the Illinois plan, told The New York Times. Senator Lindsey Graham, who also supports closing it, said the effort is “on life support and it’s unlikely to close any time soon.”

    LMAO

    You are one dumb lib believing Barry.

  • Ninja

    Yes it was tea-bagger ninja turtles teddy. Oh my how funny is that…teabaggers. HAHAHA! Now run on back to the union hall and try to find some new humor you homophobic teabaggee.

  • redleaf

    Alan Colmes was FNC’s token liberal. But he was also cast because he’s an idiot. Hannity, despite what I think of him, is a great debater. Colmes was there to be torn down by the superior arguer who expresses his thoughts with volume and anger, which FNC viewers enjoy. And despite what you may think of Olbermann, someone like him is way too strong a debater to share the stage with Hannity on a daily co-hosted show. A liberal can make a weak argument on FNC, but they cannot show up the conservative viewpoint. I’m surprised I’m arguing something that’s pretty common knowledge.

  • notsofast

    redleaf said:
    Alan Colmes was FNC’s token liberal. But he was also cast because he’s an idiot. Hannity, despite what I think of him, is a great debater. Colmes was there to be torn down by the superior arguer who expresses his thoughts with volume and anger, which FNC viewers enjoy. And despite what you may think of Olbermann, someone like him is way too strong a debater to share the stage with Hannity on a daily co-hosted show. A liberal can make a weak argument on FNC, but they cannot show up the conservative viewpoint. I’m surprised I’m arguing something that’s pretty common knowledge.

    Yes, redleaf all libs on FOX are tokens and all conservative blacks are tokens and “uncle Toms” in your racist world.

  • MichelleF

    And despite what you may think of Olbermann, someone like him is way too strong a debater

    How would you know since he NEVER has anyone on his show that disagrees with him?

  • redleaf

    notsofast,
    I’m not sure how old you are, but if you represent the level of discourse on this site, I’ll just have to bail. It’s like arguing with a pouty teenager.

    Let’s back up the discussion and start there: do you understand the difference between making a sincere promise you are unable to keep and straight-out lying?

  • Ted

    ninja – I see, and you still you keep the name? Well listen, I’ll give you credit for at least admitting that your user name takes after a cartoon, a ninja turtle; and tea-bagging ninja turtle no less.

  • redleaf

    <<>>
    <<>>

    I love debating people I’ve never met but who think they know all my opinions. Can you please tell me my thoughts on reality television and Bud Light versus Amstel Light?

  • murf

    And despite what you may think of Olbermann, someone like him is way too strong a debater to share the stage with Hannity ”

    Olbermann is a straight spin clown who spouts talking points off of ThinkPropaganda , Media Matters ,Huffington Post and Daily Kos. He often has to retract or actually make an excuse for presenting false and distorted cherry picked facts . He has no clue about economics , history , or much else for that matter . Therefore he relys on like minded parrots on his show and debates nobody .

  • Ninja

    Tedbagee I honestly don’t even know what a ninja turtle is. If you must know, the name has to do with when I played for the Chargers, a little locker room humor if you will. Something I’m sure a little man like yourself would not understand. Now get to sleep, don’t want to be late tomorrow or that union boss will have your ass! Just think if you didnt have to pay all of those union dues you could afford that jet-ski of your dreams already!

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Poor Steve, panic attack ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Save me from the torture. You are joke, Steve.

  • Ted

    ninja – bs – you most certainly do and I might suggest you and Gordo get together and discuss how collectively you might raise your IQs a point per day for 30 days, which if achieved would make you and idiot, but that would be an improvement. Good luck with that.

  • mproust

    I figured Ted out: he lost his balls to testicular dementiatitus; in other words, all the testosterone went to his big fat ugly mouth thus draining his brain of any meaningful cells and rendering him one revolting, lib retard suitable for hanging on the wall in the Smithsonian idiot exhibit.

  • Ted

    mproust – wow, for someone with a fetish for male genitalia and the intelligence of a grapefruit, thats not bad.

  • the real john t

    Gordon Bloyer said:
    I don’t care what anyone says waterboarding is NOT torture.

    Why don’t you try it sometime little man? You sure can talk big on the internet.

  • Pablo

    shootfromthehip said:
    You’ll also notice that he is not officially on staff at FNC.

    Really?

    Andrew P. Napolitano joined FOX News Channel (FNC) in January 1998 and currently serves as the senior judicial analyst. He provides legal analysis on both FNC and FOX Business Network (FBN). He is also a fill in co-host for “FOX & Friends” regularly and co-hosts FOX News Radio’s “Brian and The Judge” show daily.

    Is there anyplace in your brain that you can actually plug a fact in, or is it hopeless?

  • atreyue

    If only Ron Paul could have joined them!

  • Patrick Henry

    Ted, I learn a lot from you and really enjoy your posts. I think of all of us, you are the best representative of the tea-baggers on this site.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    If John McCain had been waterboarded he would be walking straight today. He would not be suffering pain today.
    Our people that were really tortured in Korea and Vietnam are still living with pain and suffer nightmares to this day.
    Save me your stupidity about torture.

  • Ted

    Gordo – here’s some good advice. Stop while your still just a blithering idiot; you’re about to cross over into buffoon.

    PS – you don’t know shit about torture so stop pretending like you do.

  • the real john t

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Save me your stupidity about torture.

    Like I said, go have it done to you, or quit running your mouth about it. Are you saying that because the lard ass Rush told you that. Yeah, he’d really know. NOT

  • Ninja

    Ted I really do hope that someday you realize your dream of owning a roadside fireworks stand. Maybe you could give a job to your union brother johnny t.

  • ImNotBlue

    cmdrgmh says:
    July 13, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    So the right wing has not attacked Napolitano yet. I would guess he won’t be on Fox anytime soon.

    Even though he has his own show? No… I don’t think you’re correct. But that’s not shocking ether.

    shootfromthehip says:
    July 13, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    I mean, he actually suggested Bush go to jail!

    Well, no he didn’t. Indicted, isn’t the same as “go to jail.” But unlike the other networks, FNC allows differing opinions.

    shootfromthehip says:
    July 13, 2010 at 5:28 pm

    You’ll notice that Judge Andrew Napolitano did not SAY any of these things on Fox. He said them on CSPAN.

    But has said similar stuff on FNC.

    You’ll also notice that he is not officially on staff at FNC.

    Wrong. He hosts his own FBN show, and has guest hosted for Smith and Beck.

    I will give them credit for putting him on the air, when they do.

    No you won’t.

    One of the few truly wise and independent voices on GOP TV a.k.a. Fox.

    So it’s still “GOP TV” even though you just admitted it isn’t with him on it. Wait, what?

    redleaf says:
    July 13, 2010 at 7:23 pm

    Lies and unfounded speculation… thanks for playing!

    shootfromthehip says:
    July 13, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    Notsofast, you think Bill O’reilly doesn’t hold similar sway at Fox?

    He does.

    And even though there’s no evidence of that, Shoot has declared it true… so it must be true!

    How dare you question him and his non-facts!

    July 13, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    Alan Colmes was FNC’s token liberal.

    Yeah yeah… the old, “okay, so they had a liberal… but not a good one” argument. Another failure.

    And despite what you may think of Olbermann, someone like him is way too strong a debater to share the stage with Hannity on a daily co-hosted show.

    HAHAHAAHHAHAHA!

    He’s “too strong of a debater,” which is why he NEVER debates anyone… ever!

    HAHAHAHAHAHA!

    A liberal can make a weak argument on FNC, but they cannot show up the conservative viewpoint. I’m surprised I’m arguing something that’s pretty common knowledge.

    Yes, it’s “common knowledge” if you spend your time on the left-wing sites, and simply use their words as “knowledge” instead of actually watching FNC, where these goofy arguments would be proven wrong.

  • the real john t

    Ninja said:
    Maybe you could give a job to your union brother johnny t.

    You seem to be kind of jealous. I don’t need a job, I’ve got a good UNION pension and I don’t have to work or rely on welfare like you.

  • ImNotBlue

    the real john t says:
    July 13, 2010 at 10:16 pm

    You seem to be kind of jealous. I don’t need a job, I’ve got a good UNION pension and I don’t have to work or rely on welfare like you.

    You… not work?! Who would have guessed it?!

    (PS- Everyone.)

  • Ninja

    Ya, I’m really hurting. I am retired at age 37 and don’t have to work again in my life. Plus my healthcare is much better than anything your union can give you!

  • the real john t

    Ninja said:
    Ya, I’m really hurting. I am retired at age 37 and don’t have to work again in my life.

    Yeah, what kind of Government program are you on, welfare?

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    You… not work?! Who would have guessed it?!

    Little blue boy, you read like you’re kind of jealous too. I worked ever since I was 16yrs old and I’m not even old enough to draw SS. So why don’t you tell everyone about your job in television? Where you get up at noon and crack open a beer and a bag of Cheetos and lay on the sofa watching tv. Yep, that’s really a job in television.

  • ImNotBlue

    the real john t says:
    July 13, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Little blue boy, you read like you’re kind of jealous too. I worked ever since I was 16yrs old and I’m not even old enough to draw SS.

    Then why are you retired? Too lazy to work?

    So why don’t you tell everyone about your job in television? Where you get up at noon and crack open a beer and a bag of Cheetos and lay on the sofa watching tv. Yep, that’s really a job in television.

    Ew… Cheetos.

    Why don’t you prove your statement, or admit you’re just making stuff up… again.

  • Ninja

    the real john t said:
    Yeah, what kind of Government program are you on, welfare?

    Nope, unlike you I don’t have to rely on others working to help me out with a pension, social security or any other of your favorite liberal programs. I actually made money and saved it during my days. Now send teddy-baggee an email and see if he can’t get you that job at the fireworks stand.

  • ramjet

    jt & ted baxter –

    b4 u tell someone they know nothing about something while saying nothing showing you know something about anything, offering no indication of experience or expertise while telling someone that in order to speak about something they must first experience it, you might want to engage that someone in a reasonably reasonable conversation, back & forth, dialogue, question & answer, discussion with an all-star panel and audience participation.

    Water boarding is not torture.

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    Then why are you retired? Too lazy to work?

    I worked my adult life and could retire young to enjoy it while I was young enough. What are you going to do, slave away at some low paying job until you die? You are a complete idiot.

  • the real john t

    Ninja said:
    Nope, unlike you I don’t have to rely on others working to help me out with a pension, social security

    I think you have a reading problem. I said before I’m not old enough to draw SS. Hey blue boy, why don’t you ask ninja why he’s not working and if he’s just too lazy?

  • ImNotBlue

    the real john t says:
    July 13, 2010 at 11:33 pm

    I worked my adult life and could retire young to enjoy it while I was young enough. What are you going to do, slave away at some low paying job until you die? You are a complete idiot.

    You worked hard while you were young, to retire young, and live off your pension. Seems like a pension is the type of thing you’d need to earn after being in the business a while… seems like you haven’t worked long enough for that.

    Either way… it looks like ONE of us actually DOES sit on the couch eating Cheetos, and the other goes to work. So why quite working so young? It clearly hasn’t made you happier. Neither, apparently, have the Cheetos.

  • ImNotBlue

    the real john t says:
    July 13, 2010 at 11:37 pm

    Hey blue boy, why don’t you ask ninja why he’s not working and if he’s just too lazy?

    Better question… why are you trying to give him crap, for doing essentially the same thing as you?

  • the real john t

    ramjet says:
    July 13, 2010 at 11:25 pm
    ————————-

    Your comment dosen’t make a whole hell of a lot of since. All it is, is a bunch of rambling on and on and on. Why don’t you run on back to Dollar’s dump, or did the nursing home shut him down for the night.

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    Seems like a pension is the type of thing you’d need to earn after being in the business a while…

    OH! 30yrs wasn’t long enough? Your a fucking asshole.

  • the real john t

    ImNotBlue said:
    Better question… why are you trying to give him crap, for doing essentially the same thing as you?

    Why are you giving me crap then, asshole?

  • ramjet

    Bulls-eye!

  • ImNotBlue

    the real john t says:
    July 13, 2010 at 11:45 pm

    OH! 30yrs wasn’t long enough? Your a fucking asshole.

    Only 30 years? No… not really.

    And now you do what? Besides live on political blogs, and swear a lot?

  • Ninja

    the real john t said:
    I think you have a reading problem. I said before I’m not old enough to draw SS. Hey blue boy, why don’t you ask ninja why he’s not working and if he’s just too lazy?

    You might not be now, but I am quite sure the second you qualify you will be on that government tit won’t you? Tell me in your 30 years of work did you ever pay the max into SS? I did all 13 years I worked.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Hogan/179500970 Stephen Hogan

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Poor Steve, panic attack ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Save me from the torture. You are joke, Steve.

    Ad hominem attacks must make you feel better. You seem to use them all the time.

    If you’re expecting me to engage in kind, I’m sorry to disappoint. Just know that when you baselessly insult someone, you are exposing yourself as someone seeking validation.

  • rorschach

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you try it sometime little man?

    the real john t said:
    I don’t need a job, I’ve got a good UNION pension

    the real john t said:
    Yeah, what kind of Government program are you on, welfare?

    the real john t said:
    Why don’t you run on back to Dollar’s dump

    I see john t has already run through his greatest hits LOL !

  • the real john t

    Ninja said:
    I did all 13 years I worked.

    Yeah, Im sure you made $98,000 a year in your first 13yrs. Why don’t you tell us another fairy tail. That’s why you sit on a blog all day long.

  • the real john t

    rorschach said:
    I see john t has already run through his greatest hits LOL !

    I see rorschach is here to chime in with it’s ignorant comments.

  • Ninja

    No I made much more than $98K. The rookie minimum was around $400K the year I was drafted. See when I was 16 instead of going the easy route, I decided to put in the hard work it took to make something out of myself. Even got a free 5 year education. Maybe you can go to a nice night school and try to learn a little more about econ 101 or even a polysci course before you post anything else to embarass yourself.

  • rorschach

    That’s why we like you john t , your sparkling personality and cosmopolitan wit . You really know how to light up a room.

  • the real john t

    Ninja said:
    No I made much more than $98K. The rookie minimum was around $400K the year I was drafted.

    Do you really think anyone (except RWers) are going to believe that? Damn, talk about living in a dream world. Give me some more of your fantasies. How many World Series or Super Bowl rings do you have? This should be good.

  • Jelperman

    Too bad Napolitano wasn’t nominated for the Supreme Court.

  • Ninja

    Look Johnny what I did in my collegiate or professional career is as irrellevant here as is you and I calling each other names. What is relevant is the fact that I could scan thru these comments and understand in about five minutes that you were a union activist. What do we know about that type of person in general? First of all, they are all part of a group (collective) mentality that have really no individual thought process. This is probably why you never add anything to the conversations here and only choose to try to ridicule others that do. We also know that unions have not once created a job for anyone thru innovation, the only job they are worried about is selfishly their own…those are two pretty damming personality traits, I could go on but I will show mercy and stop there. Look, you claim to be under educated if you started working at 16 and also younger than 62 years old so if you calm down you have a lot of time left in life. Do yourself a favor and go out and take some classes in something other than far left ideology. It may just help you lose that bitterness that comes thru in all of you posts if you start to look at things as more then just simply black and white. Maybe if I keep helping you, you will eventually make a post of relevance that can actually be debated.

  • the real john t

    Ninja says:
    July 14, 2010 at 1:40 am
    ————————————

    No, what we know know are you are nothing but a liar, and a bad one at that. If you were in professional sports you would have been in a union. You are nothing but a lying asshole sitting in your mom and dad’s trailer all day on the computer.

  • the real john t

    know>now

  • ramjet

    Ninja said:
    Maybe if I keep helping you, you will eventually make a post of relevance that can actually be debated.

    ninj–it won’t work. i tried to help jt a year or so ago to no avail. he just kept being offended, argumentative, dishonest, and childishly ill-behaved.

  • the real john t

    AHWWWW! Look, Little Rampet chimed in. Yes, you’d better kiss ninjas ass. He claims he was in professional sports. To bad the idiot doesn’t know if you’re in professional sports your in a union. But you go ahead rampet and kiss his ass.

  • ryans grand dad

    ninja:

    Is that you lorenzo?

    Just guessing, but if it is, I am honored. One of the best blocking fullbacks in the history of the league. 4 Pro Bowls, wasn’t it? You never played for my Giants, but you were always a pleasure to watch.

  • TfT

    Colby – I would have thought you would have changed your headline by now; rather than taking Napalitano out of context why not update your headline to tell the whole story? (snicker; I know that will never happen).

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Poor Ted, you don’t know anything about anything. Go back to serving fries.

  • Ninja

    the real john t said:
    Ninja says:July 14, 2010 at 1:40 am———————————— No, what we know know are you are nothing but a liar, and a bad one at that. If you were in professional sports you would have been in a union. You are nothing but a lying asshole sitting in your mom and dad’s trailer all day on the computer.

    Come on Angry Johnny. I make a big offer of help to you and this is what you got out of it? Yes we were in an association or union if you will, but if you don’t see the difference between the NFLPA and the UAW you are a sad, sad person. Like I said, go out and take a few classes and try to educate yourself. Try to see things in a view that is separate from the “collective” viewpoint all of the time. Try to formulate your own opinion for a change. Your petty little attempts at name-calling really have no effect on anyone over the internet.

  • stoogedudes

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Poor Ted, you don’t know anything about anything. Go back to serving fries.

    Gordon, wow you are dense.

    I’ve never been waterboarded, so I can’t really say it’s torture based on experience. That said, I’d venture a guess that you’ve never been waterboarded.

    Try this, Gordon. Google Mancow Muller and waterboarded. Mancow is a Chicago radio personality who is a far right wing nut, and he volunteered to be waterboarded to prove it wasn’t torture. He didn’t last a minute before coming up for breath saying it’s “absolutely torture”.

    Find me someone who was waterboarded themselves and says its not torture. I guarantee you everyone who says waterboarding is torture has never been waterboarded.

  • Jelperman

    Gordon Bloyer said:
    The judge is usually right but on this one he doesn’t have a clue. He keeps trying to give our rights to non-citizens. He is in left field on this one. Also there is no evidence that Bush or Cheney ordered any torture and I don’t care what anyone says waterboarding is NOT torture.

    Please quote the part of the Constitution where only citizens have civil rights.

  • Jelperman

    gordonbloyershow said:
    If John McCain had been waterboarded he would be walking straight today. He would not be suffering pain today.
    Our people that were really tortured in Korea and Vietnam are still living with pain and suffer nightmares to this day.
    Save me your stupidity about torture.

    So he claims. But according to the Republican Party, he was only given “enhanced interrogation techniques”, so he should quit his bitching. No, McCain was not “tortured”. His sore arm and shoulder are the result of whacking off constantly at the prospect of dropping bombs and napalm on Vietnamese civilians.

  • ImNotBlue

    Jelperman says:
    July 14, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Wow. You’re a really terrible person.

  • Pablo

    stoogedudes said:
    Find me someone who was waterboarded themselves and says its not torture. I guarantee you everyone who says waterboarding is torture has never been waterboarded.

    Really? Because everyone who goes through SERE training gets waterboarded.

  • stoogedudes

    I said find me someone who was waterboarded themselves and SAYS ITS NOT TORTURE. I know about SERE training. Jesse Ventura, for all the nuttiness he has, was waterboarded and said it’s torture.

    Again, get yourself waterboarded, SERE style, and tell me it’s not torture.

  • stoogedudes

    Jesse Ventura, I forgot to elaborate, received SERE training.

  • Nachi

    And then hanged in a public square.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    There are people that believe that sleep deprivation is torture. Little children think making them sit in a corner is torture. Do you believe every sob story you hear? How about loud music, is that torture.
    Watching Rachael Maddow is torture.

  • T REX

    heyyyy it is not Torture…………………..it is ENHANCED INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES…………….as the Tea baggers would say

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