Pinhead Vs Patriot? Jon Stewart Goes On O’Reilly Factor For Ideological Debate

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by Colby Hall | 8:57 pm, September 22nd, 2010

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In some respects, this had the potential to be the perfect discussion to repair a fiercely bipartisan political landscape. On the left, we have Jon Stewart, the host of the influential program The Daily Show. He is adored by his audience and is out promoting a new book called Earth.

Representing the right we have Bill O’Reilly , host of the influential program The O’Reilly Factor. He also is adored by his audience and is promoting a book entitled Pinheads and Patriots. While both are canonized by their fans and vilified by their detractors, neither are afraid to surprise their viewers with the occasional critique political figures that some would see as allies.

This evening Stewart joined O’Reilly at the Fox News midtown studios for some mutually respectful and highly entertaining discourse, a follow-up to the last joint appearance which occurred back in February.

O’Reilly went right at it, asking Stewart if he regretted not voting for Senator John McCain, or “Obama remorse” as he called it. Stewart did not demure in reaffirming his support for the President, though he did add that he saw Obama running as a “visionary” and acting more as a “functionary” in office. As for the “Messiah thing”? Stewart said “Look, I don’t buy the ‘messiah thing’ when it comes to the real ‘messiah thing.’”

The last meeting of two of the most popular broadcasting icons of the day had an air of a heavyweight battle; two champs representing opposite ideological perspectives. This meeting seemed less tense, perhaps because expectations for fireworks were muted by the last, surprisingly jovial taping. In fact, the comedic timing and chemistry between the two is actually pretty good. If for some reason the stars re-align and both find themselves without a television program, they could easily join up sitcom featuring the unlikeliest of friends.

Enjoy the video below.

Bill O'Reilly, Earth, Jon Stewart, Pinheads Vs. Patriots, The Daily Show, The O'Reilly Factor

felixw

This kind of frank dialogue is exactly why Fox attracts a much larger audience than MSNBC or CNN. These other networks could do the same thing, but that will never happen. The kind of true diversity of opinion on Fox is exactly what the mainstream media wants to stop. The CNN / MSNBC idea of diversity is people of different races and genders all expressing the exact same liberal opinion. The Fox recipe is not that hard to imitate, but the Thought Police at the other networks will fight to the end to maintain their ideological lock on the news.
Ninja

“two champs representing opposite ideological perspectives”

That is a bit of a stretch. I would consider both of these guys to be about the most centrist on political television. Maybe if it was Hannity and Olbermann…
Greg

Felix,

I am willing to concede that folks watch Fox for a variety of valid and sensible reasons, but political balance is not one of them. In fact, their entire M.O. is to respond to what some perceive as a leftward slant in the mainstream with a concomitant rightward shift… To say people watch for balance lacking elsewhere is absurd on it’s face…
Big_F-ing_Deal

I loved Bill’s conspiracy theory of a new war on Fox. I’m sure Jimmy Carter and Alan Grayson got together and declared a jihad on FNC. We libs are so organized and evil. lol

Bill’s not happy unless everything is a “war” on something.

BTW, as usual Jon Stewart was charming and Bill was a braggart. Who gives a shit about your sales of “Bold/Fresh”, you asshat.
chucken

And Billo said you can watch the unedited interview on billoreilly.com before the commercial break.I’ll wait to comment until I see the unedited tape.This Fox interview was cut to shreds.And you will see that unedited Stewart will look a lot tougher.Just like the last time he came on.That Billo the clown could not run what is called live on tape means he is one insecure little pussy.
marcus.lewis

I thought Bill Oreilly said that the unedited video was going up on the web right after the show ended?

Can anyone link me in the right direction. There were some strange cuts in the interview (obviously for time) and I love their dialogue.
newzmaker

Jon seems to enjoy his chats with Bill. I bet Jon would like to hang out with Bill, but can’t, because most in show biz have to pretend to be bleeding hearts, or face losing the jobs. I’d hate to have to pretend to be a PC lib, just to keep my job. Must be hell….
http://www.facebook.com/people/Illidan-Stormragge/1641360891 Illidan Stormragge

Stewart appeared to be sort of a doofus. He asked meaningless questions in response to Bill’s, like “who are the people/folks?” The answer to that is the majority of the American people, as at least the polls show. It is not hard to understand. It is as if he doesn’t know how to answer Bill, so he comes up with pseudo-counter-questions. Don’t get me wrong; I used to be a big fan of Stewart, but his commentary to me is now meaningless and childish. I try to watch his show. It is funny, but it is sometimes simply unintelligent.

And hell no, Bill isn’t listening to him. lol.
EricBoisen

I liked this, I wish he would have let Jon say a bit more, but overall it was a good segment. I always love the Stewart/BillO Conversations.
juan

O’Reilly got the best of Stewart!

HeeHee
chucken

marcus you can pay to go on O;Reillys web site and see it.And it was not edited for time.Billo is a control freak and egomaniac that wants to limit the exposure of him looking like an idiot and getting one upped.So put it on his paid web site that probably was edited also.
EricBoisen

Illidan Stormragge said:
He asked meaningless questions in response to Bill’s, like “who are the people/folks?”.

He said those questions because terms like “The American People/The Folks” have been used so much by both political parties in every possible way that it has lost all meaning to it and it usually doesn’t represent what the American People actually believe.
Azarkhan

Sweet Loretta Sanchez Tells Latinos the Vietnamese Are Trying to Take Away Their Seat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyTDAHdZFNk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

felixw said:
This kind of frank dialogue is exactly why Fox attracts a much larger audience than MSNBC or CNN. These other networks could do the same thing, but that will never happen. The kind of true diversity of opinion on Fox is exactly what the mainstream media wants to stop. The CNN / MSNBC idea of diversity is people of different races and genders all expressing the exact same liberal opinion. The Fox recipe is not that hard to imitate, but the Thought Police at the other networks will fight to the end to maintain their ideological lock on the news.

Actually, a few years ago MSNBC did try to compete with FOX from the center/right perspective. I remember, I think it was in 2003, Alan Keyes had a prime time show on MSNBC. Can you imagine that? Alan Keyes, a guy as far right as Olbermann is left. Hell, even Michael Savage had a weekend show on MSNBC back at that time. Seriously. And Joe Scarborough had a prime time show for about three years, although it became a bit of a joke toward the end. Really, though, MSNBC took the hard liberal turn about three to four years ago. Before that, it DID try to compete with FOX, it simply failed.
marcus.lewis

chucken said:
marcus you can pay to go on O;Reillys web site and see it.And it was not edited for time.Billo is a control freak and egomaniac that wants to limit the exposure of him looking like an idiot and getting one upped.So put it on his paid web site that probably was edited also.

I don’t agree with you and I am a Stewart fan. Bill O gets the final say on the cuts, and in the interview I watched it was pretty decent cutting. If you watched the previous interview, it was cut for time–the cuts did put Bill in a better light, but that’s fine–its his show. If you could take off your partisan hat for a second, you would realize that it wasn’t put behind a paywall last time, it most likely is not going to be put behind a paywall this time. Get off your high horse for second please…and Bill plays fair with Jon.

EricBoisen said:
He said those questions because terms like “The American People/The Folks” have been used so much by both political parties in every possible way that it has lost all meaning to it and it usually doesn’t represent what the American People actually believe.

I agree. I think that using the term the American people/the folks is insincere. The American people by and large don’t really pay attention to the news channels. While FNC is dominate in the 24/7 cable news, the majority of the American people don’t pay attention to the 24/7 channels. Give me my local news channel and I’m good to go. We are inundated with the news, and I think that most of us are smart enough to realize that we don’t need commentators to tell us how to think. That includes you Mr. Stewart and Mr. O’Reilly (and I think they would readily admit that).
CosmosDan

Illidan Stormragge said:
Stewart appeared to be sort of a doofus. He asked meaningless questions in response to Bill’s, like “who are the people/folks?” The answer to that is the majority of the American people, as at least the polls show. It is not hard to understand. It is as if he doesn’t know how to answer Bill, so he comes up with pseudo-counter-questions. Don’t get me wrong; I used to be a big fan of Stewart, but his commentary to me is now meaningless and childish. I try to watch his show. It is funny, but it is sometimes simply unintelligent.

And hell no, Bill isn’t listening to him. lol.

I seriously doubt if we’re getting any kind of accurate picture from the polls that come out, and I think that’s what Jon was alluding to when he said Bills question was meaningless. When ORielly says the folks he’s not really talking about
a real representation of America. He’s begging the question by assuming the “folks” agree with him when a shitload of folks don’t. Begging the question is not a serious question to be answered.
I thought Bill was a little more condescending than he needed to be calling Jon just ” Stewart” and referring to his book as nonsense but he did give Jon a chance to answer some of the questions and Jon did so intelligently.
newzmaker

I wonder why Jon didn’t go on MSNBC, to promote his new book. Oh, nevermind, I know why. No viewers there.
murf

Jon Leibowitz is a pinhead. Give Greg Gutfeld a primetime slot and what Leibowitz’s 15 writers ( lol ) ? and he would blow him out .
Big_F-ing_Deal

newzmaker said:
I wonder why Jon didn’t go on MSNBC, to promote his new book. Oh, nevermind, I know why. No viewers there.

MSNBC viewers already watch the Daily Sho so they know about the book.

John was reaching out to the Asshole-American.
newzmaker

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
John was reaching out to the Asshole-American.

Jon’s out to sell books. Fox News has the better audience, plus, most Fox News viewers have to work for a living; unlike MSNBC viewers, whom are broke.
chucken

Stewat and O’Reilly are both millionaire basic cable TV hosts that live in expensive hoods and Billo even has a bodyguard(some tough guy).Stewart never claims he represents just folks Billo is just plain fucking lying.He is a rich bubble boy that has no idea what goes on in the real world.Marcus what are you 10 years old.Fox hosts like Billo and Hannity edit the shit out news items because they want there views to align with what they show the Fox sheep.Fox is not a real new organization.It’s just reality TV with plot lines made up to lure ignorant viewers.
marcus.lewis

newzmaker said:
Jon’s out to sell books. Fox News has the better audience, plus, most Fox News viewers have to work for a living; unlike MSNBC viewers, whom are broke.

FNC – 1,182,000 viewers av. per day
Demo – FNC –306,000 viewers per day

Seems like quite a stretch to say that most of FNC viewers work for a living. It seems as if they have a decent amount of retirees.
fallenchicken

newzmaker said:
I wonder why Jon didn’t go on MSNBC, to promote his new book. Oh, nevermind, I know why. No viewers there.

Hyuck Hyuck Hyuck
felixw

chucken said:
Stewat and O’Reilly are both millionaire basic cable TV hosts that live in expensive hoods and Billo even has a bodyguard(some tough guy).Stewart never claims he represents just folks Billo is just plain fucking lying.He is a rich bubble boy that has no idea what goes on in the real world.Marcus what are you 10 years old.Fox hosts like Billo and Hannity edit the shit out news items because they want there views to align with what they show the Fox sheep.Fox is not a real new organization.It’s just reality TV with plot lines made up to lure ignorant viewers.

Man, you must cleared out the whole shelf of Kool-Aid down at the supermarket. You really ought to leave some for the other progressives. They will definitely need a double dose to remain in their fantasy world stupor after Nov. 2.
murf

chucken said:
Stewat and O’Reilly are both millionaire basic cable TV hosts that live in expensive hoods and Billo even has a bodyguard(some tough guy).Stewart never claims he represents just folks Billo is just plain fucking lying.He is a rich bubble boy that has no idea what goes on in the real world.Marcus what are you 10 years old.Fox hosts like Billo and Hannity edit the shit out news items because they want there views to align with what they show the Fox sheep.Fox is not a real new organization.It’s just reality TV with plot lines made up to lure ignorant viewers.

You’re kidding right ? This coming from a HUGE Keith Olbermann and MSNBC drone ! ? Get real Chucken
notsofast

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
John was reaching out to the Asshole-American.

And he found one in YOU!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Illidan-Stormragge/1641360891 Illidan Stormragge

CosmosDan said:
I seriously doubt if we’re getting any kind of accurate picture from the polls that come out, and I think that’s what Jon was alluding to when he said Bills question was meaningless. When ORielly says the folks he’s not really talking about
a real representation of America. He’s begging the question by assuming the “folks” agree with him when a shitload of folks don’t. Begging the question is not a serious question to be answered.

That’s where you and I disagree. If you can’t trust weekly polls from Fox News, then so be it, but the polls coming in from, let’s say, Gallup do not completely fall out of line. Yes, there are many many people that disagree with Bill and I do not think he ever denied that, but as far as I am concerned Fox News has the highest ratings in Cable News, so clearly many folks do find credibility in the network.

Bill was condescending and that was a bit unfair, but Stewart keeps biting on Fox News’s ankle, so it goes both ways.
marcus.lewis

chucken said:
Stewat and O’Reilly are both millionaire basic cable TV hosts that live in expensive hoods and Billo even has a bodyguard(some tough guy).Stewart never claims he represents just folks Billo is just plain fucking lying.He is a rich bubble boy that has no idea what goes on in the real world.Marcus what are you 10 years old.Fox hosts like Billo and Hannity edit the shit out news items because they want there views to align with what they show the Fox sheep.Fox is not a real new organization.It’s just reality TV with plot lines made up to lure ignorant viewers.

No, in fact I’m not a 10 year old. I understand reality, and I also don’t feel the need to insult those who offer an opinion contrary to my own and add curse words for the pure sake of it in my comments. Bill and Sean edit, yes. They also are on for one reason, to get good ratings and make News Corp money.

Now if you can step back from the ledge and reread my response to you, you would understand that I didn’t attack you. Facts don’t lie. Bill posted the unedited Jon Stewart interview from earlier this year, and it was not behind a paywall. In fact, the unedited interview is up now. So before you start another irrational rant, get your facts correct.

http://billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=%2Fb%2FWatch-the-Unedited-Jon-Stewart-Interview%2F903487141491758888.html
NORBIT

Expose the Democratic “BACKDOOR AMNESTY” Scandel!!

Deceit upon deceit upon deceit!!! – More & more, it’s shown that The Democrats are the enemy of America!!!
felixw

Greg said:
Felix,

I am willing to concede that folks watch Fox for a variety of valid and sensible reasons, but political balance is not one of them. In fact, their entire M.O. is to respond to what some perceive as a leftward slant in the mainstream with a concomitant rightward shift… To say people watch for balance lacking elsewhere is absurd on it’s face…

Every night O’Reilly has guests on his show who disagree with his views. O’Reilly likes it that way. He relishes frank and honest debate, and delivers it again and again. And his interviews are so tough on both Left and Right that many prominent Republicans have been afraid to go on his show. That’s a matter of record.

There’s no escaping the fact: the diversity of opinion on his show far outstrips anything on CNN or MSNBC — especially because the Thought Police on those networks filter out anything that they think is politically incorrect. And in the topsy-turvy world of the Left, almost everything that deviates ever so slightly from their progressive agenda is seen as suspect and politically incorrect. That’s why it’s such a laugh to see the panel discussions on various progressive issues on the other channels — where everybody mouths the exact same leftwing position with only the smallest differences in emphasis.

Plain and simple, that’s exactly why O’Reilly has the biggest audience on cable news. It’s like a breath of fresh air to hear such open, unfiltered discussions. And the Left knows it, even if they will never admit it. Moreover, the ratings and market research substantiate this. O’Reilly totally dominates the independents and moderates in the audience, and also draws as many Democrats as CNN and MSNBC. It’s all spelled out in the recent Pew Research report. Check it out and you will see that the data backs up everything I am saying here.
Rogue-Comic

marcus.lewis said:
I thought Bill Oreilly said that the unedited video was going up on the web right after the show ended?

Can anyone link me in the right direction. There were some strange cuts in the interview (obviously for time) and I love their dialogue.

It up now and it’s free:

http://billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=%2Fb%2FWatch-the-Unedited-Jon-Stewart-Interview%2F903487141491758888.html
notsofast

Sorry libs, but people would rather read O’Reilly or a Science book that that crap you guys are peddling:

LASH: O’REILLY TOPS BOOK SALES… ‘PINHEADS AND PATRIOTS’ SCANS 31,045, DEBUT #1 NYT FOR WEEK; HAWKING ‘GRAND DESIGN’ TAKES 2ND PLACE WITH 24,078 [SINCE RELEASE: 56,538]; D. LIMBAUGH ‘CRIMES AGAINST LIBERTY’ AT SHOW WITH 12,882 [73,652]; TONY BLAIR ‘JOURNEY’ 10,141 [27,399]; MISS: JUSTICE BREYER ‘DEMOCRACY’ 3,993; HUFFINGTON ‘THIRD WORLD’ 2,853…
notsofast

Cuomo Caught Lying About Voting For Bloomberg?
Poll Shocker: Paladino Closes Within 6 Points Of Democratic Foe

September 22, 2010 7:08 PM

But for all his actions as the state’s chief law enforcement officer, Cuomo did have a little problem with telling the truth about his election box support for Mayor Bloomberg.

“Have I voted for the mayor? Yes,” Cuomo said.

Actually, he didn’t. The Cuomo campaign had to issue a clarification, saying he was only registered to vote in New York City in 2005 when he endorsed Democrat Fernando Ferrer.

Political experts say Cuomo can’t afford to make a mistake like that in a close contest.
marcus.lewis

Illidan Stormragge said:
That’s where you and I disagree. If you can’t trust weekly polls from Fox News, then so be it, but the polls coming in from, let’s say, Gallup do not completely fall out of line. Yes, there are many many people that disagree with Bill and I do not think he ever denied that, but as far as I am concerned Fox News has the highest ratings in Cable News, so clearly many folks do find credibility in the network.

Bill was condescending and that was a bit unfair, but Stewart keeps biting on Fox News’s ankle, so it goes both ways.

I somewhat agree, and thank you for putting it so concisely. Polls don’t lie; they just give the results of questions asked. I do take issue with the many folks comment though. 3M folks is many, but when its compared to the population of the US, its a small amount (just as Stewart’s 1.8M viewers is relatively small). I also don’t think that one can grant credibility based on ratings. Certainly some people find FNC credible, but by saying that because of their ratings FNC is credible is problematic because the vast majority of American’s simply don’t watch FNC. It would not be fair to say that most americans don’t watch FNC, therefore many people don’t find them credible. I think that those who watch FNC think that FNC is credible…and that’s all that really matters.
notsofast

Comparisons between the Obama White House and the failed presidency of Jimmy Carter are increasingly being made—and by Democrats.

Walter Mondale, Mr. Carter’s vice president, told The New Yorker this week that anxious and angry voters in the late 1970s “just turned against us—same as with Obama.” As the polls turned against his administration, Mr. Mondale recalled that Mr. Carter “began to lose confidence in his ability to move the public.” Democrats on Capitol Hill are now saying this is happening to Mr. Obama.

Comparisons between the Obama White House and the failed presidency of Jimmy Carter are increasingly being made by Republicans -and by Democrats. Video courtesy of Fox News.

Mr. Mondale says it’s time for the president “to get rid of those teleprompters and connect” with voters.
Big_F-ing_Deal

felixw said:
Every night O’Reilly has Fox employess on his show who disagree with his views but don’t go too far off message.

Fixed.
marcus.lewis

notsofast said:
Sorry libs, but people would rather read O’Reilly or a Science book that that crap you guys are peddling:

LASH: O’REILLY TOPS BOOK SALES… ‘PINHEADS AND PATRIOTS’ SCANS 31,045, DEBUT #1 NYT FOR WEEK; HAWKING ‘GRAND DESIGN’ TAKES 2ND PLACE WITH 24,078 [SINCE RELEASE: 56,538]; D. LIMBAUGH ‘CRIMES AGAINST LIBERTY’ AT SHOW WITH 12,882 [73,652]; TONY BLAIR ‘JOURNEY’ 10,141 [27,399]; MISS: JUSTICE BREYER ‘DEMOCRACY’ 3,993; HUFFINGTON ‘THIRD WORLD’ 2,853…

Can you link to this please? I would be shocked that ratings are put out already when Stewart’s book has been on the shelf for just 48 hours.
Greg

Felix,

You changed the terms of the debate. Your initial assertion concerned FOX, you now argue the position in terms of Bill O. alone. Your point about Bill O might be correct… Would need to verify first… Certainly not convinced that the mainstream media has near the ideological
rigidity that FOX does…
NORBIT

November is coming, and the coup will be turned back!

Be afraid of November, Marxist Democrats…be Very Afraid!!
heh heh heh!!

ps) Thank you, Barry!!!!!!!!!
heh heh heh!!
no-touchy-touchy

notsofast said:
Comparisons between the Obama White House and the failed presidency of Jimmy Carter are increasingly being made—and by Democrats.

Walter Mondale, Mr. Carter’s vice president, told The New Yorker this week that anxious and angry voters in the late 1970s “just turned against us—same as with Obama.” As the polls turned against his administration, Mr. Mondale recalled that Mr. Carter “began to lose confidence in his ability to move the public.” Democrats on Capitol Hill are now saying this is happening to Mr. Obama.

Comparisons between the Obama White House and the failed presidency of Jimmy Carter are increasingly being made by Republicans -and by Democrats. Video courtesy of Fox News.

Mr. Mondale says it’s time for the president “to get rid of those teleprompters and connect” with voters.

snore
marcus.lewis

NORBIT said:
November is coming, and the coup will be turned back!

Be afraid of November, Marxist Democrats…be Very Afraid!!
heh heh heh!!

ps) Thank you, Barry!!!!!!!!!
heh heh heh!!

I’m not afraid. I hope Republicans take control of the House and Senate (and I lean left mind you). I think that when one party holds all the power, there is zero reason for either party to work together to solve the American peoples problems. Our country is a moderate nation, and so far noone has offered simple moderate solutions. If the government wants to get people back to work… then go back to what FDR did. Instead of the Stimulus bill that was 700B dollars, the federal government could have put 10M people to work for 1 year earning 35K while having 350B dollars left for materials. It would have been a much quicker injection of capital, also it would help reduce foreclosures and help banks as they would have more capital to help protect against losses. While that sounds idealistic, the truth is that both parties working together can do more good than one dictating the rules of engagement.
notsofast

no-touchy-touchy said:
snore

Yes, Carter and BHO are strong natural soporifics!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Illidan-Stormragge/1641360891 Illidan Stormragge

marcus.lewis said:
3M folks is many, but when its compared to the population of the US, its a small amount (just as Stewart’s 1.8M viewers is relatively small). I also don’t think that one can grant credibility based on ratings. Certainly some people find FNC credible, but by saying that because of their ratings FNC is credible is problematic because the vast majority of American’s simply don’t watch FNC..

It is true that ratings do not distinguish a program’s credibility. That has never been the case, but I said that many people that watch the show, and there are many, on a regular basis do find it credible.
dahni

Stewart is acting like a little boy who will do whatever it takes to get attention. O’Rielly will do whatever it takes to get more attention.
marcus.lewis

Illidan Stormragge said:
It is true that ratings do not distinguish a program’s credibility. That has never been the case, but I said that many people that watch the show, and there are many, on a regular basis do find it credible.

Fair enough. Many who watch fox find it credible. Also many who watch wrestling think its real. I’m not saying that FNC isn’t credible. To many of those who watch it and understand the viewpoint, it most definitely is credible. The same thing with the liberal drones at MSNBC. My point is that the word many implies people in general, when in fact it is referencing the viewers who choose to watch FNC. I watch FNC from time to time, but in general I find it frustrating (same with the other 24/7ers). They paint debate as black and white, and pretend to have journalistic integrity. Not all debates are black and white–and they have nuance. A five minute back and forth between Yes and No just really doesn’t cut it for me. Don’t get me started on CNN’s stupid programming. If I wanted to watch TV so that they can outsource journalism to @twitter accounts, then I would just go to twitter. They are the biggest joke out there. Sorry, back onto topic. Your last comment is correct. Those who watch FNC on a regular basis do find FNC credible. I just think that people in general have a hard time holding many conflicting ideas at the same time, so they tend to watch/listen to people who have the most similar views to their own. Of course those people who watch FNC and MSNBC think the programming is credible; I just don’t buy into it.
Rusty Shackelford

Could you ever picture Olbermann having someone from the opposite end of the spectrum on his show?
Do those folks at MSNBC ever get tired of Eugene Robinson,Howard Fineman and David Korn? On the subject of David Korn,was he in some horrific accident that necessitated the removal of his lips.
Azarkhan

Beck on Breitbart taking on the “Stop the Hate” (LOL-the Left is full of hate) demonstrators in Chicago.

http://www.therightscoop.com/glenn-beck-breitbart-is-an-animal
Rogue-Comic

Here’s a re-post of the link to the unedited exchange:

Rogue-Comic said:
http://billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=%2Fb%2FWatch-the-Unedited-Jon-Stewart-Interview%2F903487141491758888.html

It’s FAR more engaging then what made it on the air.
Big_F-ing_Deal

Azarkhan said:
Beck on Breitbart

LMFAO
RazorsEdge

Thought the biggest takeaways from interview were:

That Stewart described his feelings about current administration ‘much like the Tea Party” (1:40 mark in vid)that he was sad and disappointed that more deconstruction of the powers to be had not taken place in DC. Philisophical alignment with the Tea Party movement especially from someone who ran on that goal during the campaign.

and

That no one should think he represents the :voice of news” (stewart: no one blieves that) (11:02 mark in vid). That it’s satire.

Tea Party! Not News! Quoted from Stewart, I would not have expected
Rogue-Comic

Rusty Shackelford said:
Could you ever picture Olbermann having someone from the opposite end of the spectrum on his show?

No, but if I were to compare a left wing pundit host to Bill O, I’d go with Chris Matthews, whose show takes a more “liberal” approach, like Bill O, in booking guests.
Rogue-Comic

RazorsEdge said:
Thought the biggest takeaways from interview were:
(sic)
That no one should think he represents the :voice of news” (stewart: no one blieves that) (11:02 mark in vid). That it’s satire.

He can shy away from it all he wants, but many people (me included) respect his satirical take on politics. How many followers does the twitter page for his rally have now?
felixw

Greg said:
Felix,

You changed the terms of the debate. Your initial assertion concerned FOX, you now argue the position in terms of Bill O. alone. Your point about Bill O might be correct… Would need to verify first… Certainly not convinced that the mainstream media has near the ideological
rigidity that FOX does…

Certainly the different hosts on Fox each have on their own approach. But even Hannity, the most unabashed advocate for the Republicans on cable TV, regularly has guests on his show who disagree with his views. This is something that never happens on, say, Keith Olbermann’s show. Rachel Maddow will, once in a blue moon, debate someone, but never anyone of intellectual stature on the right. Her idea of debate is to find the least sophisticated person at a second-rate Bible college and their fire off a lot of snarky insults. But people can see through this. They know which hosts are willing to allow for frank and open discussion, and which ones won’t let anyone deflect them from their scripted talking points. I stick by my claim: there is more diversity of opinion on Fox than on the other cable news networks…and this is why viewers tune in.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Lam/596900941 Tony Lam

Here’s the unedited version of the interview without the bias editing
http://www.billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=%2Fb%2FView-the-Jon-Stewart-Interview%2F903487141491758888.html
ConLoonPatrol

I’ve never watched o’reilly show (just what we read/see on the internet) and I never, NEVER watch fox.. but since O’Reilly has been on Jon Stewart’s show a few times and they always had a friendly humorous banter, I thought I’d tivo O’Reilly when I heard Stewart would be on his show tonight.

Though I’m well aware of what/who O’Reilly is.. I was stunned how completely rude and arrogant he was to Stewart right off the bat.

When Stewart invites authors on his show, 9 times out of 10 he’s read their entire book.. other times he’s read/browsed through it and said so. O’Reilly made it clear he knew nothing about Stewart’s book and didn’t care to. He berated it from the outset and continued to make fun of it.

It was stunning to see how utterly rude O’Reilly was to him, considering they’ve had a past relationship in guest appearances.

Within the first 90 seconds of the show, O’Reilly arrogantly informed Stewart that no one watches his show but everyone watches his (O’Reilly’s) show.. this came out of the thin air.

Why are all republican right wingers such f’king pricks?
just like those who post comments on this site
Azarkhan

Who cares what leftist assholes think about Fox News? Why waste your time discussing Fox with those swine? Leftists are scum who believe in censorship. If they could, they would shut down Fox News so they could return to the pre-Fox world when a leftist, biased mainstream media was the only source for news. These people of Stalinist dinosaurs. Just tell them to go fuck themselves and move on.
RazorsEdge

Rogue-Comic said:
He can shy away from it all he wants, but many people (me included) respect his satirical take on politics. How many followers does the twitter page for his rally have now?

No doubt. I respect his satirical take as well. I assume Stewart may have stated before no one should mistake his satire for news (assumption). It was just striking for me to hear Stewart clearly state that no one believes he is the “voice of news”. That Comedy Central is satire, that no one believes otherwise. I’ve heard many debate Stewart’s segments as news/not news. But Stewart cleared it up with some clarity.
Rogue-Comic

Tony Lam said:
Here’s the unedited version of the interview without the bias editing
http://www.billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=%2Fb%2FView-the-Jon-Stewart-Interview%2F903487141491758888.html

Yes, and posted on the “biased” interviewer’s site I’ve already linked to twice here.
Rogue-Comic

RazorsEdge said:
[sic] It was just striking for me to hear Stewart clearly state that no one believes he is the “voice of news”. That Comedy Central is satire, that no one believes otherwise. I’ve heard many debate Stewart’s segments as news/not news. But Stewart cleared it up with some clarity.

To play Devil’s Advocate, he issued those statements on a network his viewership would most likely never watch “live.”
Ninja

ConLoonPatrol said:
I’ve never watched o’reilly show (just what we read/see on the internet) and I never, NEVER watch fox.. but since O’Reilly has been on Jon Stewart’s show a few times and they always had a friendly humorous banter, I thought I’d tivo O’Reilly when I heard Stewart would be on his show tonight. Though I’m well aware of what/who O’Reilly is.. I was stunned how completely rude and arrogant he was to Stewart right off the bat. When Stewart invites authors on his show, 9 times out of 10 he’s read their entire book.. other times he’s read/browsed through it and said so. O’Reilly made it clear he knew nothing about Stewart’s book and didn’t care to. He berated it from the outset and continued to make fun of it. It was stunning to see how utterly rude O’Reilly was to him, considering they’ve had a past relationship in guest appearances. Within the first 90 seconds of the show, O’Reilly arrogantly informed Stewart that no one watches his show but everyone watches his (O’Reilly’s) show.. this came out of the thin air. Why are all republican right wingers such f’king pricks?just like those who post comments on this site

I see someone has sand in their vag.
ConLoonPatrol

I do appreciate this site always reminding me how utterly ignorant and uninformed right wingers and fox viewers are.

You can google it if you know how.. every test, every survey shows that fox viewers are the least informed on any topic of political relation. Most uninformed voters are fox viewers.

sad sad
http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Wilson/43005436 Ryan Wilson

ConLoonPatrol said:
I do appreciate this site always reminding me how utterly ignorant and uninformed right wingers and fox viewers are.

You can google it if you know how.. every test, every survey shows that fox viewers are the least informed on any topic of political relation. Most uninformed voters are fox viewers.

sad sad

Why not give a link, if they are so dumb how will they know how to use Google?
Rogue-Comic

ConLoonPatrol said:
Most uninformed voters are fox viewers.

You are aware that the 12 billion fox watchdog sites are, by definition, fox viewers right?

I’d be interested in viewing any links you’d care to provide as to the tests and surveys you cite.
nrgetick

“Fox News viewers have to work for a living; unlike MSNBC viewers, whom are broke”

actually fox news comes standard with most cable plans, You have to upgrade to get msnbc.
Rogue-Comic

nrgetick said:
“Fox News viewers have to work for a living; unlike MSNBC viewers, whom are broke”

actually fox news comes standard with most cable plans, You have to upgrade to get msnbc.

Mine includes both standard with CNN and E! junior (HLN) in the middle, ironically.
Ninja

I think these are the uniformed voters we should all worry about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

What I saw in the clip was a couple of middle-aged guys, who appear to genuinely like and have great respect for each other. Perhaps it’s because they’re both from Jersey; maybe it’s due to the fact that they’re both at the top of their careers or quite possibly, it’s because they can kid each other in a gentle manner and it makes good television.

I’m not sure what some others may have seen, but it looks to me that they both recognize that they have a job and not only do I believe that they have friendly exchanges at industry events, but if the situation arises, I could see them sharing drinks and enjoying a frank discussion about politics.

If you ask me, there’s no bad guy in the above clip and no one won. They simply promoted each other’s books’ they created the first of two viral videos and they’ll both temporarily boost their audience.
the real john t

felixw said:
This kind of frank dialogue is exactly why Fox attracts a much larger audience than MSNBC or CNN.

Or it could be that most hospital waiting rooms, a lot of doctors offices,and nursing homes where you can’t control the remote have Fox on all day. Walmart has a contract with a lot of their stores to have Fox on all their desplay TVs. I hate going to the dentist anyway, but he’s got Fox on in every room. It just makes the agony worse.
http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

OK – Now that I’ve watched the unedited video, I’m certain they both had a lot of fun.
Bad Wolf

Bill O is a pompous old guy who was out of his depth with Stewart.
Bill had nothing to contribute, wasn’t funny or insightful,
as with most of his interviews, all we see is an extended ego trip.

Bill is an insensitive, unkind host.
Jon will not retaliate with awkward lame and inane quips when Bill O visits.
There may actually be a conversation.
http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

FYI as a PS) They’ve now uploaded the as-aired to O’Reilly’s Hulu channel and it’s currently being featured on Hulu’s front page.

(Of course to access Hulu, you’d need to be within the US and you’ll have to be able to use a service founded by NBC & Fox without your head exploding. Though, the unedited link above would probably be the better way to go)
something

Jon Stewart is a BIG idiot! He kept asking WHO ARE THE FOLKS? Ahhh…the folks are the people who use to buy your books Jon. You are a freak. And Bill is such a lap dog.. Why didn;t Bill just jump in in Stewart lap and start cuddling with him. SICk.. Bill I just unDVRed you
something

ConLoonPatrol said:
on Stewart is a BIG idiot! He kept asking WHO ARE THE FOLKS? Ahhh…the folks are the people who use to buy your books Jon. You are a freak. And Bill is such a lap dog.. Why didn;t Bill just jump in in Stewart lap and start cuddling with him. SICk.. Bill I just unDVRed you

I think you should expand your mind… especially if Jon Stewart is your form of news…. YUK!
Some_Dude

O’Reilly opened with a clever quip, heh. I bet Colbert got a chuckle.

The whole “Obama remorse” and “messiah thing” puerile soundbite talking points is really beneath a man of Stewart’s intellect and I’m glad he just deflected it and moved on.

Stewart was spot on in his interpretation of the Obama we voted for, and how he essentially brought more of the same instead (albeit still more progressive and welcome, but very much still Washington-as-usual). He also rightly met O’Reilly’s “he is drastic and distances himself from normal people(sic)” with deserved disdain. That as coming from the same emotional and ignorant source as the Teag Bagger cry of “we’re taking our country back!”. It’s political, and truthfully Obama has been no more elitist than any other president I can remember.

Stewart was also correct on the Mosque debacle. O’Reilly really was making things up. His mocking of Bill was a bit much, but hey, he’s a comedian.

“Folks”, “Working Americans don’t understand his thought process”….Huh?

I thought Stewart’s “this is for people that have jobs and lives” was a dig better left unsaid.

All in all, I really love the way Stewart and O’Reilly interact. O’Reilly really knows how to playfully rib him, these guys genuinely come off as good friends, it’s hilarious. But whenever Stewart decides to retort, you realize which one is paid for his wit.

Also loved how Stewart pointed out that Bill is a Harvard educated intelligent man, and he’s been kind of steamrolled by the “new right”. Poignant.
fah4d

If anyone thinks o’reilly is a fair and balanced guy, you should check out http://www.oreilly-sucks.com. His hypocrisy is highlighted every day. O’reilly is a right wing nut who claims to be an independent.
Not Your Typical New Yorker

O’Reilly ate Stewart’s lunch, plain and simple and I’m not a fan of O’Reilly.
moriarty70

There really were two different interviews, the one that aired and the one that’s posted on his site. The funny thing is that Bill came across as a bigger prick in the televised interview. That one made him look like a person trying to pull a “gotcha” moment and just letting Jon talk before pushing onto his next topic with no regard for the actual words.

It was also interesting the whole “Move On” section was pulled out since it shows that the public orgaizing wasn’t exclusive to the Tea Party.
jooce81

notsofast said:
Cuomo Caught Lying About Voting For Bloomberg?
Poll Shocker: Paladino Closes Within 6 Points Of Democratic Foe

.

The Q Poll shows a 6 point lead, which stirred up headlines, the Siena Poll shows 57% Cuomo, 24% Paladino..
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dailypolitics/2010/09/a-very-different-story-siena–.html

But you can never really tell with polls
writer

That biased Fox News! Why don’t they ever allow someone from the left on their shows, so they can voice their opinions?
felixw

Big_F-ing_Deal said:
Fixed.

Fix your own gaffes before distorting my words. You have about ten thousand idiotic comments on this site you can start with.
felixw

the real john t said:
Or it could be that most hospital waiting rooms, a lot of doctors offices,and nursing homes where you can’t control the remote have Fox on all day. Walmart has a contract with a lot of their stores to have Fox on all their desplay TVs. I hate going to the dentist anyway, but he’s got Fox on in every room. It just makes the agony worse.

Everyone knows that CNN is the most popular network in places where you can’t change the channel. In the last few months, I’ve started seeing Fox News on in a few public places — but that is only because the patrons begged the person in charge to change the channel from CNN to Fox. As for MSNBC, no one dares put that on it a public place — it’s bad for business.
hanoisteve

NORBIT said:
Expose the Democratic “BACKDOOR AMNESTY” Scandel!!

Deceit upon deceit upon deceit!!! – More & more, it’s shown that The Democrats are the enemy of America!!!

Ronald Regan gave a blanket amnesty to illegal migrants…….another enemy of America!
Penguin60

“John was reaching out to the Asshole-American.”

He ought to comment on here, tehre are plenty of you to go around.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

hanoisteve says: “Ronald Regan gave a blanket amnesty to illegal migrants”

Stop pestering these reactionaries with facts! You know damn well that facts have a liberal bias.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/bias-vs-truthiness-analyzing-media.html

With media watchdogs, it’s bias vs. truthiness.
RichS

marcus.lewis said:
I’m not afraid. I hope Republicans take control of the House and Senate (and I lean left mind you). I think that when one party holds all the power, there is zero reason for either party to work together to solve the American peoples problems. Our country is a moderate nation, and so far noone has offered simple moderate solutions. If the government wants to get people back to work… then go back to what FDR did. Instead of the Stimulus bill that was 700B dollars, the federal government could have put 10M people to work for 1 year earning 35K while having 350B dollars left for materials. It would have been a much quicker injection of capital, also it would help reduce foreclosures and help banks as they would have more capital to help protect against losses. While that sounds idealistic, the truth is that both parties working together can do more good than one dictating the rules of engagement.

FDRs actions prolonged the Great Depression.
CosmosDan

Not Your Typical New Yorker said:
O’Reilly ate Stewart’s lunch, plain and simple and I’m not a fan of O’Reilly.

Yes but Jon had an Ex Lax laced Whoopie Pie in his lunch so JON WINS!!!!!
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

RichS says: “FDRs actions prolonged the Great Depression.”

That’s bogus. when FDR cut back spending when the whiner Republicans bitched about spending, unemployment went back up again. Only the massive spending of WWII brought us out of that depression. We could have dumped that hardware in the ocean, and it would have had the same stimulative effect on the economy.

What we need is another massive spending bill paid for by taxing the corporations in the U.S. that are sitting on $2Trillion liquid. They won’t hire, so tax and spend would to the trick.

To be clear: no wasting the money: infrastructure, hi speed, mag lev. trains, nation-wide broadband and green technology research & development to push for energy independence. If the corporations swimming in liquid capital won’t spend it and hire, then the gov’t should.

No situation in history better portrays the bankruptcy of Beck’s backward, small government ideas than the one we’re on right now. Tax the corporations, spend the money on necessary projects and push the economy back on track.

http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/beck-frames-voters-choice-as-progress.html
Orion Antares

Penguin60 said:
“John was reaching out to the Asshole-American.”

He ought to comment on here, tehre are plenty of you to go around.

I often see plenty of pots and kettles on here.
http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

“John was reaching out to the Asshole-American.”
Penguin60 said: “He ought to comment on here, tehre are plenty of you to go around.”

No irony to see here folks. Keep on moving. No irony. Penguin is in full control of his mind. Appearances to the contrary, no irony to see. Keep on moving….