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Plouffe: Beck, Palin, And Limbaugh Spell Big Trouble For GOP In 2012

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One could argue that the only thing President Obama has going for his these days is the fact that the GOP can’t seem to dig up a viable leader for their party. Or at least a leader who actually wants to run for election (as opposed to, say, ratings). Obama strategist David Plouffe told David Gregory over the weekend that the fact Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sarah Palin, all powerful and polarizing media figures, are nominally the heads of the GOP only spells trouble for the party.

Said Plouffe:

I think the–I think right now–and this is a problem for them long term–I do think that Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, they are the leaders of the party…There, there is an intolerance in that party and an extremism that I think is where the real energy is. And so I think, as you see in ’11 and ’12, as that presidential primary, those are the people that are going to come out to vote. So I think that’s where the real energy is, and I think particularly in, in elections where more people vote, in presidential elections where you have a lot more younger people, minorities, independent voters who skew a little bit more moderate, that’s going to be a big problem. So we’ll just have to wait and see. But let’s get this–through this election first, and then we’ll be right on to the next one.

However, Plouffe also noted that in 2007 Barack Obama basically came out of nowhere and that a Republican might be able to pull of the same. Tick tock? Watch below.

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  • BatBoy

    Plouffe almost got it right – he should have said…

    Beck, Palin, And Limbaugh Spell Big Trouble For Democrats In 2012

  • The Real Royal King

    Plouffe is correct. But, the disaster is Republican-made, so I have little sympathy.

    Plouffe is also correct. The Republicans have to bring up an unknown, untied to the Tea Party, to have any chance of success in 2012. The front runners offer nothing.

    WHEN’S O’BECKERHEAD’S NEXT “LIARS’ AND HERETICS’ REVIVAL”?
    AND, WHERE AND WHEN BEST TO CO-OPT ANOTHER’S NAME AND ESSENCE?
    I’M THINKING BETHLEHEM AROUND THE NEXT CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL,
    AIM FOR THE TOP AND ASSUME NOTHING LESS THAN CHRIST’S REAL PRESENCE.

  • kenm

    Funny since Beck isn’t even a member of the Republican Party, nevermind its leader.

  • JimBob

    I didn’t see MTP this past Sunday!
    Were Plouffe’s lips moving ?

  • The Real Royal King

    kenm said:
    Funny since Beck isn’t even a member of the Republican Party, nevermind its leader.

    kenm said:
    Funny since Beck isn’t even a member of the Republican Party, nevermind its leader.

    You can’t believe everything you see or don’t see.

    WHEN’S O’BECKERHEAD’S NEXT “LIARS’ AND HERETICS’ REVIVAL”?
    AND, WHERE AND WHEN BEST TO CO-OPT ANOTHER’S NAME AND ESSENCE?
    I’M THINKING BETHLEHEM AROUND THE NEXT CHRISTMAS FESTIVAL,
    AIM FOR THE TOP AND ASSUME NOTHING LESS THAN CHRIST’S REAL PRESENCE.

  • WideAwakeNow

    Plouffe is just attempting to marginalize strong conservatives ….but he is really just emphasizing how scared the progressives are that the conservative consititutionalists are garnering much of the country’s support in light of the ObamaPresidencyDisaster.

  • jk76

    I always hear about the leaders of the Repubs…..

    who are the leaders of the Dems? I never ever hear that.

    who were the repub leaders before Beck and Palin? Who arbitrarily decides this? The only people I see mention this are Dems, as if it’s some slur. 2 of em are entertainers, 1 is half politcal and half entertain.

    WHO ARE THE DEM LEADERS?

  • Pablo

    I do think that Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, they are the leaders of the party…

    i do think that Plouffe doesn’t believe that for a minute. He’s not that stupid. He knows he can’t run against Bush in 2012, and he really needs something to talk about other than Obama’s record, which sucks out loud.

  • Pablo

    jk76 said:
    who were the repub leaders before Beck and Palin? Who arbitrarily decides this?

    Barack Obama.

  • Penguin60

    “You can’t believe everything you see or don’t see.”

    You obviously do.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Flinner/1438330220 Mark Flinner

    As long as the Democrats don’t have control of both the House and Senate. The GOP needs to take 1 or both of them to control our President.

  • Permatiltx

    It seems that if we can look back at recent history, then the 2012 election is starting to look like the 2004 election. Of course, the Dems ended up being led by the Al Frankens, Michael Moores (though not to the extent of the Repubs this year.) and they thought they had an easy win against Bush. But then, the Dems never created a leader to take on Bush. So, the media led, but the moderates didn’t bite at the chosen leader. (And remember that election was close). So, I have to agree with Plouffe, but at least they are addressing the issue early. Maybe they will see that the media pundits don’t make the best leaders, they aren’t running for President. They can’t make proper political decisions if their life depended on it. So, it could be 2004 for the Repubs the way it was for the Dems. And those on the right who are just dismissing this as liberal clap trap, well, that’s what the left thought in 2004 (other way around) and look what happened.

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  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Obama is the leader of the Democrat Party. He is the problem that can not be overcome. Bye Bye Barry.
    Rejection Day is November 2nd.

  • BatBoy

    Republicans do NOT need to have a leader of a party. We are too independent.

    Democrats on the other had could do nothing without someone they called a leader.

    Notice you only hear Democrats trying to identify a leader for the republicans…..they always need someone to sling their crap at., They just cannot argue an issue and if they do…they loose!

  • ganymede

    I think we should stop using the word ‘extremist’ to describe politicians and political opinions. There are no mainstream equivalents on the left to Limbaugh, Palin, Beck et al. whose attempts to paint Obama, Pelosi and other progressive politicians as out of touch leftists, socialists, fascists (?) will ultimately fail simply because these labels are meaningless. Obama and most Democrats represent most of us and they are only partially responsible for the mess we’re in and are, at least, trying to get us out of this which is more than one can say about most of the no/know nothing Republicans. Limbaugh, Palin and Beck are blowhards crass opporunists who are against everything that’s decent in our society, and whose ideas are destructive of good government. Here’s just a small list of what these characters stand for – ineffective, corrupt government; poor health care for most of us; privatizing social security; unregulated everything; theocratic government; even more concentration of wealth; constitutional prohibition against abortion; lowering standards in education; kickass foreign policy; scapegoating minorities and so on. Oh, yes, they’re all gung-ho for militarism. Judging from many of the posters on this blog, there is a hardcore of far right people who will not change and are even proud of their state of denial. Fortunately, demographics are against them so we won’t have to deal with their hysterical attempts to confuse and manipulate for much longer.

  • lonestar77

    You know the Dems are in deep shit when they have to resort to “worrying” about the future of the GOP. Yeah, I’m sure it keeps them up at night that the GOP might be in trouble. Nothing but wishful thinking on the part of David Gregory’s hair & Professor Ploof.

  • Azarkhan

    “I think the–I think right now…I do think that Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, they are the leaders of the party” David Plouffe

    Not quite, but they will be. Right now they are the voices of a new conservative movement being spearheaded by the Tea Party. Rush, Glenn and Sarah are leading the struggle against the Left for the future of America. That means every hand on deck, so empty ballast like Lisa Murkowski get tossed over-board.

    If the Democrats get crushed in November, it will largely be due to an energized American electorate led by Sarah Palin and the Tea Party. That will be a problem–for Democrats. It will be the first indication that Sarah Palin and other conservatives are building a movement that is more powerful then the Left.

  • http://TheDividedStatesBlog.com Publius219

    The loud minority thinks they’re the reawakened silent majority, ignoring the fact that Reagan was elected 30 years ago and half the people who voted for him are dead. The silent majority lies in the center now, not the center-right or center-left. Mid-term elections will only help to reinforce their belief. They’ll be in for a rude awakening come 2012 when their far right candidate loses to the very bane of their existence.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Beck claims to be against R’s as much as Dems; but he’ll be gloating over the results in November anyway.

    In fundraising letters, Beck and Limbaugh are used to scare the Democratic base out of their money.

    Plouffe is scaring the hell out of the rational people. Ironic, huh?

  • ImRubberYoureGlue

    Pablo said:
    i do think that Plouffe doesn’t believe that for a minute. He’s not that stupid. He knows he can’t run against Bush in 2012, and he really needs something to talk about other than Obama’s record, which sucks out loud.

    Excellent point. Obama cannot run against bush anymore so he is running against Beck, Palin and Limbaugh. Thank you for pointing that out so clearly!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Gordon, you have your facts wrong.

    In his meaningless speech on 8/28, Beck said, “How did the scar get there? They stopped building it in the Civil War.”

    The reference you used to “prove” that I’m a liar states, “However, due to increasing instances of vandalism and theft, the contributions eventually ceased in 1854, when the monument was only 152 feet tall.

    Construction would be halted for 20 years. The onset of the Civil War also contributed to the delay. The abandoned memorial was a fitting tribute to a nation divided. The unfinished monument was even seen as an embarrassment during this time.”

    The Civil War didn’t stop the Monument, and that’s NOT when they stopped building it. Beck lied three times on 8/28 after first saying, “”Our sacred honor. It means that you tell the truth. The whole truth and nothing but the truth.”

    This means that he’s a liar, deceiver & misinformer-in-chief; your credibility is shot for defending this reactionary, anti-fact, anti-intelligence, anti-integrity reactionary. That is if you actually had any. Haven’t seen any proof here yet. On the contrary….

  • Penguin60

    “This means that he’s a liar, deceiver & misinformer-in-chief”

    Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?

    Sorry, gbr, Beck is an entertainer that means absolutely nothing. Try spending some time looking into the gov that actually can cause you damage. Try counting the lies that have been spewed by barry, good luck with that one.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?”

    Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity.

    Let’s see them: what lies?

  • Penguin60

    ganymede said:
    I think we should stop using the word ‘extremist’ to describe politicians and political opinions. There are no mainstream equivalents on the left to Limbaugh, Palin, Beck et al. whose attempts to paint Obama, Pelosi and other progressive politicians as out of touch leftists, socialists, fascists (?) will ultimately fail simply because these labels are meaningless. Obama and most Democrats represent most of us and they are only partially responsible for the mess we’re in and are, at least, trying to get us out of this which is more than one can say about most of the no/know nothing Republicans. Limbaugh, Palin and Beck are blowhards crass opporunists who are against everything that’s decent in our society, and whose ideas are destructive of good government. Here’s just a small list of what these characters stand for – ineffective, corrupt government; poor health care for most of us; privatizing social security; unregulated everything; theocratic government; even more concentration of wealth; constitutional prohibition against abortion; lowering standards in education; kickass foreign policy; scapegoating minorities and so on. Oh, yes, they’re all gung-ho for militarism. Judging from many of the posters on this blog, there is a hardcore of far right people who will not change and are even proud of their state of denial. Fortunately, demographics are against them so we won’t have to deal with their hysterical attempts to confuse and manipulate for much longer.

    Holy shiite! The asylum is missing an inmate.

    Scapegoating minorities? Lowering standards for education? Where do you get this tripe, from Kos?

  • Penguin60

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?” Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity. Let’s see them: what lies?

    Did you listen to the speech this weekend?
    There’s a start.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Penguin60 says: “Did you listen to the speech this weekend?”

    Nice try; give specific example of a “lie” the President told or consider yourself as mentally deranged as you’re accusing ganymead to be.

    This will be fun; I know from your comments that I’m teasing candy away from a small child.

    Come on: name ONE lie from that speech, and yes I heard yesterday’s speech. After I woke up, I backed the DVR up and caught what I missed.

    You want me to obtain the transcript for you, or are you Google ready?

  • moneymack

    GBR: love what youre doing. they can’t respond with nothing but snarky retorts.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Obama said he met his wife in college. LIE. He met her at work.
    Obama said Obamacare would reduce health care costs. LIE. Costs have gone up.
    Obama said you would be able to keep your doctor if you passed Obamacare. LIE. My niece and millions of others have been notified that because of Obamacare they would no longer have the same doctor.

    I will let others continue the list. List on my friends.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    GBR said…………
    Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?”

    Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity.

    Let’s see them: what lies?

    GBR, Penguin made no mention of Obama’s speech in his first post and you responded in the post above. You made no mention of lies in Obama’s speech, you just said name lies. Then in a later comment you mention lies in his speech. I will Penquin list those lies. The rest of us will give a continuous list of his lies.

  • Permatiltx

    gordonbloyershow said:
    GBR said…………
    Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?”

    Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity.

    Let’s see them: what lies?

    GBR, Penguin made no mention of Obama’s speech in his first post and you responded in the post above. You made no mention of lies in Obama’s speech, you just said name lies. Then in a later comment you mention lies in his speech. I will Penquin list those lies. The rest of us will give a continuous list of his lies.

    Actually, to keep you honest, Penguin said, Did you listen to the speech this weekend? That’s a start. Penguin did bring the speech up first. So, you are misinformed (or lying, but I won’t place that on you though I know for you misinformed equals lie, so then, you have to say LIE to yourself right now.)

  • J Baustian

    Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh are spelling big trouble for Barack Obama right now. What would cause them to turn into something helpful to Obama’s reelection in 2012?

    Seems like the man is seriously deluded — a common malady on the Left these days.

  • Permatiltx

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Obama said he met his wife in college. LIE. He met her at work.

    Similar to how Beck said that the Monument was stopped being built because of the Civil War or that he held Washington’s inaugural address when he didn’t. In other words, so?

    gordonbloyershowObama said Obamacare would reduce health care costs. LIE. Costs have gone up.

    I don’t like it when people say it will definitely do this. I think making guarantees are wrong. Now, the question is if you really believe in something and then it doesn’t happen, does that make it a lie? For example, We are going to win the Super Bowl – Peyton Manning (he didn’t say this using a hypothetical) then, uh, oh, nope, didn’t happen, is Peyton a liar? Thus, did Obama know that it wouldn’t reduce health care costs? Not to mention that a good portion of the bill isn’t even in effect yet, so how can we say that it didn’t reduce health care costs? Thus, it’s a preemptive LIE since we won’t see it’s actual effects for some time now.

    gordonbloyershowObama said you would be able to keep your doctor if you passed Obamacare. LIE. My niece and millions of others have been notified that because of Obamacare they would no longer have the same doctor.

    Now, this is misinformation on your part. Obamacare does allow you to keep your doctors and insurance plans. It’s the insurance companies that are dropping folks, creating a spending cap, in other words, this is a result of Obamacare, but not because Obama knew you would get dropped. This is the insurance companies being dicks before the full bill even goes into effect. You should write the insurance companies and call them assholes for doing this to your niece. Again, the guys who are causing the problem are still causing the problem despite the solution.</blockquote?

    gordonbloyershowI will let others continue the list. List on my friends.

    And I just added this since it made since to add it all. Got no real response to this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Arthur-Clough/1419363514 Arthur Clough

    As long as Plouffee is running the Dems, the Repubs have little to worry about.

  • Penguin60

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Penguin60 says: “Did you listen to the speech this weekend?” Nice try; give specific example of a “lie” the President told or consider yourself as mentally deranged as you’re accusing ganymead to be. This will be fun; I know from your comments that I’m teasing candy away from a small child. Come on: name ONE lie from that speech, and yes I heard yesterday’s speech. After I woke up, I backed the DVR up and caught what I missed. You want me to obtain the transcript for you, or are you Google ready?

    How about these for a start:
    From the speech, how about how this Country became successful? Tell me barry/gbr if not for the entrepreneur?
    Look at barryscare and how that was shoved down the throat of American people, Transparency? How about no medicare cuts.
    How about lobbyists in the admin?
    Here’s one for the lefties, Guantanamo?
    Paygo? Deficit spending?
    Signing bills with earmarks and pork?
    Tax employer based health benefits?
    8% unemployment to pass the stimulus?
    Catapillar CEO?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Permatiltx starts his answer to me with a lie. I pointed out that there were TWO posts by Penguin and YOU answered both. In the first he made NO mention of the speech. In your first answer YOU asked him list the lies. NOW those posts are all above here so everyone knows that YOU are lying. Try again. I suggest you look at your own posts. Should I list them here, Oh why not.

    From Perm………………..

    #1 at 1:45 pm…………Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?”

    Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity.

    Let’s see them: what lies?

    #2 at 1:56 pm……………Penguin60 says: “Did you listen to the speech this weekend?”

    Nice try; give specific example of a “lie” the President told or consider yourself as mentally deranged as you’re accusing ganymead to be.

    This will be fun; I know from your comments that I’m teasing candy away from a small child.

    Come on: name ONE lie from that speech, and yes I heard yesterday’s speech. After I woke up, I backed the DVR up and caught what I missed.

    You want me to obtain the transcript for you, or are you Google ready?

    At 2:30 pm Penguin lists his list of Obama lies

    I started a list of lies for you and you started by your lie about the speech and then you posted a list of excuses for his lies.
    Just a little note for you. I never said “insurance companies” forced a change in doctors. In my niece’s case it was the government Medicade that did it. They won’t pay her regular doctor. I am talking about DOCTORS making you change doctors because they won’t accept the government plan payments.

    So try again.

    Obama saying he met his wife in college has no relation to anything Beck said. Obama knew where he met his wife. He was there. He knew he was lying. That is just like Hillary taking sniper fire. She was there and she knew she was lying.

  • RTB

    Limbaugh, hannity, coulter, malkin…to me those are the black eyes of the Republican fanbase. ..barrack, pelosi, Dean,Reid olberman, maddow, 75% of Hollywood, and thousands more compile the lefts theater of pain. ..i tilt to the right slightly but these days it seems to be pick your poison. …Republicans kick ass in the next 2 elections, but I don’t see America stop being starstruck over barrack…he wins by the skin of his teeth in the 2012 election…..unfortunately

  • alamo2

    Penguin60 said:
    Did you listen to the speech this weekend?There’s a start.

    GBR challenged you three times to find the lie. You come back each time with an insult, or no substance. You are on this site to insite childish behavior, and add nothing to intelligent discourse. What a waste. On the other hand, there are Conservative commenters with whom I disagree, but who can carry on an intelligent conversation. I enjoy their comments.

  • alamo2

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Obama said he met his wife in college. LIE. He met her at work.Obama said Obamacare would reduce health care costs. LIE. Costs have gone up.Obama said you would be able to keep your doctor if you passed Obamacare. LIE. My niece and millions of others have been notified that because of Obamacare they would no longer have the same doctor. I will let others continue the list. List on my friends.

    College vs. Work: He met while both were in the same university, but while they were at work. Don’t be so childish.
    Healthcare costs: His healthcare plan has not really started, so he is not responsible for what is going on yet.
    No longer have same doctor: This is a scare tactic, and has no basis in reality. Complete tripe.

  • Penguin60

    alamo2 said:
    GBR challenged you three times to find the lie. You come back each time with an insult, or no substance. You are on this site to insite childish behavior, and add nothing to intelligent discourse. What a waste. On the other hand, there are Conservative commenters with whom I disagree, but who can carry on an intelligent conversation. I enjoy their comments.

    Having difficulty reading? See above. And just how did I insult gbr?

  • Permatiltx

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Permatiltx starts his answer to me with a lie. I pointed out that there were TWO posts by Penguin and YOU answered both. In the first he made NO mention of the speech. In your first answer YOU asked him list the lies. NOW those posts are all above here so everyone knows that YOU are lying. Try again. I suggest you look at your own posts. Should I list them here, Oh why not.

    From Perm………………..

    #1 at 1:45 pm…………Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?”

    Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity.

    Let’s see them: what lies?

    #2 at 1:56 pm……………Penguin60 says: “Did you listen to the speech this weekend?”

    Nice try; give specific example of a “lie” the President told or consider yourself as mentally deranged as you’re accusing ganymead to be.

    This will be fun; I know from your comments that I’m teasing candy away from a small child.

    Come on: name ONE lie from that speech, and yes I heard yesterday’s speech. After I woke up, I backed the DVR up and caught what I missed.

    You want me to obtain the transcript for you, or are you Google ready?

    At 2:30 pm Penguin lists his list of Obama lies

    I

    But Gordo, you are missing the key piece of info that I brought up that is not listed in your comments anywhere, even your claim that I’m lying. See, the one right there.

    Penguin60 said:
    Did you listen to the speech this weekend?
    There’s a start.

    See, Penguin said it first, but your comment makes it look like GBR said it first.

    GBR, Penguin made no mention of Obama’s speech in his first post and you responded in the post above. You made no mention of lies in Obama’s speech, you just said name lies. Then in a later comment you mention lies in his speech. I will Penquin list those lies. The rest of us will give a continuous list of his lies.

    Are you saying Penguin didn’t mention the speech first. See, your statement, just looking at a grammatical, content stand point implies that GBR brought it up. See, what you quoted was true, you just left out a piece of information. In other words, misinformation. In other words, I DIDN’T LIE. You’re supposed to be this amazing small town pundit that nobody should fuck with, but yet, you made an error and instead of saying, Ooops, my bad, you attack me. It’s easy to say, I made a mistake, because when you admit to a mistake, then guess what, no one can call you out on it. I’ll get to the rest of the comment, but just one more thing. You said, From Perm…then proceeded to list just quotes from other commenters and nothing I actually said. Is that your definition of integrity? Is that how you do it on your show? If so, well, um, no offense, but you suck at this. Or maybe you’re smart enough to know that your listeners won’t call you out on it, so you can say whatever the fuck you want since if anyone disagrees or points something out that you’ve said, well, just attack who said it because you’re listeners already believe you no matter what. Don’t have to address it or say Oops. Is that the case? Thus, lack of integrity.

  • Permatiltx

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Just a little note for you. I never said “insurance companies” forced a change in doctors. In my niece’s case it was the government Medicade that did it. They won’t pay her regular doctor. I am talking about DOCTORS making you change doctors because they won’t accept the government plan payments.

    So try again.

    No, I said it. And that is starting to be the trend. Also, Medicaid is a plan that was in place before Obamacare, wasn’t it. So, Obamacare actually didn’t cause you to change doctors, it was a plan that was in place already. And if you are so anti-government, why does your niece have Medicaid? Do they not listen to you? I don’t want to bring family members into it, but you did bring it up first (Unless Penguin or someone else brought up your niece first, but either way, nice using your family to score political points). And I’m sorry, if doctors are dropping people, especially in a time of recession and great need because they don’t like Obamacare, well, then, those doctors are asses. Again, we still have just speculation on what is going to happen, the thing isn’t 100% in place yet. Let me ask you, what is your plan for healthcare?

  • Permatiltx

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Obama saying he met his wife in college has no relation to anything Beck said. Obama knew where he met his wife. He was there. He knew he was lying. That is just like Hillary taking sniper fire. She was there and she knew she was lying.

    So, Beck didn’t know he was lying when he said he held Washington’s Inaugural Address? So, Beck is…an idiot?

  • puck30

    Plouffe: Beck, Palin, And Limbaugh Spell Big Trouble For GOP In 2012

    Hey buddy? It’s 2010 givin’ up on November already? Yeah well I guess with a Political Tusnami in the forcast for November if I were you and Barry I would want to go in a corner and suck my thumb.

    ‘Rejection Day’ is going to be one big catch phrase come November.

  • DrFunke

    Republicans getting control of the House wouldn’t shock me and shouldn’t surprise anyone

    With that said, when Republicans get into office and offer the exact same plans that got us into this mess, most of the country will remember that these douchebags got us into this mess

    So, 2012 will probably revert back any gains made in 2010

  • Permatiltx

    DrFunke said:
    Republicans getting control of the House wouldn’t shock me and shouldn’t surprise anyone

    With that said, when Republicans get into office and offer the exact same plans that got us into this mess, most of the country will remember that these douchebags got us into this mess

    So, 2012 will probably revert back any gains made in 2010

    That tends to be the point that gets missed. It’s always gonna swing. This is eerily similar to 1994, and we saw how that turned out two years later.

    It’s also why ideology is a bad thing. Has there ever been a time when one party controlled both houses and the Presidency and nothing but good came of it?

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    Plouffe is correct. But, the disaster is Republican-made, so I have little sympathy.

    Yes, that’s way a poll shows that a generic Repub beats a Democrats by 10%, the highest level ever in the polls history.

  • Penguin60

    Permatiltx said:
    That tends to be the point that gets missed. It’s always gonna swing. This is eerily similar to 1994, and we saw how that turned out two years later. It’s also why ideology is a bad thing. Has there ever been a time when one party controlled both houses and the Presidency and nothing but good came of it?

    But Clinton moved (willing or not) to the center. That is a big difference. barry’s all in, don’t see him making any migration to the center.

  • Permatiltx

    Penguin60 said:
    But Clinton moved (willing or not) to the center. That is a big difference. barry’s all in, don’t see him making any migration to the center.

    But didn’t anyone think Clinton would either, before or after the house changed? Reagan was far on the right before he lost the Senate and then he moved to the center as well? History shows one thing, but we seem to forget that point. I think with the House going to the Repubs, we will see a move toward the center from Obama. I mean, he’s pretty close to there anyway (Health Care Reform was hardly a victory for the left, it featured a lot of ideas started by the right, Financial Reform wasn’t what the left wanted. And the government made a nice profit after taking the automotive companies and then selling them back, a very conservative thing to do). So, again, let’s see what happens in the next two years. Seems to be following similar historical pathways.

  • notsofast

    Permatiltx said:
    This is eerily similar to 1994,

    And 1946! Look at those results.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Penguin60 says: “How about these for a start:
    From the speech, how about how this Country became successful? Tell me barry/gbr if not for the entrepreneur?”

    Penguin, what did Obama say? Did he claim that the entrepreneur was NOT responsible for this country’s success?

    “Look at barryscare and how that was shoved down the throat of American people, Transparency? How about no medicare cuts.”

    Are you referring to broken promises here? Because a broken promise is not a lie. Right-wing clowns make this dumb claim all the time. It’s as dumb (almost) as Beck saying (and he does this a lot) that hope is truth. No, Mr. Beck, you dumb-ass rodeo clown, these are two different words with two different meanings.

    “How about lobbyists in the admin?”

    Broken promise.

    “Here’s one for the lefties, Guantanamo?”

    Broken promise.

    “Paygo? Deficit spending?”

    When did he say anything deceitful about these? What were his words?

    “Signing bills with earmarks and pork?”

    Broken promise.

    “Tax employer based health benefits?”

    Congress imposed that, and you’re still not pointing to a lie.

    “8% unemployment to pass the stimulus?”

    Again, no lie indicated here. They underestimated the depth of this recession.

    “Catapillar CEO?”

    I don’t even know what “Lie” you think you’re referring to here, but I just want to emphasize that you’re a dumbed down citizen who doesn’t know even what a lie is. You and your ilk are watching too much Fox propaganda. You’re not even translating their hogwash very well, so I can’t blame just them.

    Senator Colburn said it a few months ago, you need a second source of information. Fox has your minds to damn warped you people watching that nonsense don’t know up from down, day from night, wet from dry, and specifically, you uneducated plebeians are being lied to about what socialism is; and you but the stupid lies as if Fox is a reliable source of information instead of an anti-Democratic propaganda machine.

    What will the R’s do with control of the House? Nothing! They have no answers. How long before an impeachment hearing is called for? I’m guessing no more than 2 months after the reactionaries take their oaths of office.

    Laura Bush scolding the far right children for their lack of respect for the President, this President; but petulant children like the bird-brain Penguin don’t care about respect…until someone THEY respect somehow gets in the White House.

    Sad, pathetic, politically retarded. THANKS FOX!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    gordonbloyershow says: ” I will Penquin list those lies.”

    First day using English there Gordon? If you missed the word “help,” fair enough. I love stomping stupidity in the head.

    I think that is why I enjoy writing The Glenn Beck Review so much.

    http://www.sharethiurlaboutglennbeck.com

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    gordonbloyershow says: “Obama said he met his wife in college. LIE. He met her at work.”

    OH, that’s a major point of policy. I recall Obama saying he met her at work, so show you reference for this claim.

    “Obama said Obamacare would reduce health care costs. LIE. Costs have gone up.”

    Broken promise. God, Gordon, I thought it would be harder to mock you, but you’re just as f#$king stupid as the bird brain.

    PLEASE NOTE: A BROKEN PROMISE IS NOT A LIE.

    “Obama said you would be able to keep your doctor if you passed Obamacare. LIE. My niece and millions of others have been notified that because of Obamacare they would no longer have the same doctor.”

    PLEASE NOTE: A BROKEN PROMISE IS NOT A LIE.

    By the way, document this. I have not heard of such “notices,” but then I don’t watch Fox Reactionary Propaganda Channel. Why would the new health care reform bill force people to change doctors? Are they on public service? I have private insurance, and I have the same Dr. That doesn’t prove you’re wrong; I’ve just not heard of this. Again, Gordon, defender of the indefensible, give me a serious news reference for this claim. Fox and World Net Daily do not count.

  • notsofast

    GlennBeckReview said:
    gordonbloyershow says: ” I will Penquin list those lies.”

    First day using English there Gordon? If you missed the word “help,” fair enough. I love stomping stupidity in the head.

    I think that is why I enjoy writing The Glenn Beck Review so much.

    http://www.sharethiurlaboutglennbeck.com

    Barry- unemployment will not exceed 8%- Lie

    Barry- After signing Paygo, “now we will be like everyone else. If we want to spend money, we must pay for it.” LIE- he then passed continued unemployment payments Without paying for it.

    Guantanamo- Will be closed in one year . LIE- still open.

    Obama said in a campaign speech below that his father served in World War II- LIE!

  • Penguin60

    gbr, it’s amazing. Do what you have to, to sleep at night.
    Talk about being childish, bird brain? What are you 12 yrs old.
    Broken promise vs lie, are you kidding? What a friggin joke, go back to watching beck, I know that gives you a chub.
    Are you really on the DNC payroll? Thanks LSDNBC for making another zombie.
    Everybody is dumb but you, they have a DSM catagory for that, look it up.
    Respect,? I doubt you know anything about the word.
    Remember you salute the office not the man.

  • Penguin60

    notsofast said:
    Barry- unemployment will not exceed 8%- Lie Barry- After signing Paygo, “now we will be like everyone else. If we want to spend money, we must pay for it.” LIE- he then passed continued unemployment payments Without paying for it. Guantanamo- Will be closed in one year . LIE- still open. Obama said in a campaign speech below that his father served in World War II- LIE!

    I told my wife I would take her out to dinner tonight but thanks to the above zombie, I now will go play golf and tell her it was a “broken promise”.
    A vote for the most inane post of the day goes to gbrzombie.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Penguin60 says: “barry’s all in, don’t see him making any migration to the center.”

    You are scum, bird brain. Are there any adults on the right?

    Bird brain, in adult environments, we refer to the President whether we agree with his/her policies or not.

    Why would you see “migration” (bird language) BEFORE an election?

    You are not embarrassed, are you?

  • notsofast

    Penguin60 said:
    I told my wife I would take her out to dinner tonight but thanks to the above zombie, I now will go play golf and tell her it was a “broken promise”.
    A vote for the most inane post of the day goes to gbrzombie.

    Hey, I just told my workers that I was going to buy them new cars and give each a 15% raise and pay for their HC costs.

  • Penguin60

    Hey, take it easy you don’t have to be a douchbag all the time.

    I do have to thank you for the “broken promise” rule.

  • notsofast

    GlennBeckReview said:
    GlennBeckReview says:
    September 7, 2010 at 4:08 pm GlennBeckReview(Quote)

    You are the biggest collection of lib feces I have ever seen.

    Go to a brain surgeon and get an estimate.

  • notsofast

    Penguin60 said:
    I do have to thank you for the “broken promise” rule.

    Yeah, that worked really well for GHW Bush, didn’t it!

    LMAO

  • Penguin60

    Yeah, I’m sure the above zombie was out there telling his libtard buddies that GHB didn’t lie.
    Does this dick actually make a living at what he does? He has got to be the most brain washed leftie here.

  • notsofast

    Penguin60 said:
    Yeah, I’m sure the above zombie was out there telling his libtard buddies that GHB didn’t lie.
    Does this dick actually make a living at what he does? He has got to be the most brain washed leftie here.

    It only goes one way with libs. That’s why they are such hypocritical POS.

  • Penguin60

    I checked out the site. Now I need a bath. He calls himself a Lincolnian Republican. What a joke, by the above posts you wouldn’t know where barry stops and he starts.

  • Permatiltx

    notsofast said:
    And 1946! Look at those results.

    You’re right. It is very similar. And Truman won in 1948 in a surprise upset. I was going to write, “Typical con, always bringing up 1946,” but you would’ve gotten the joke, don’t know if others would’ve.

  • Liberty_Hound

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Penguin60 says: “Wow, do you realize you just described barry to a tee?”

    Name the lies. I just love attacking this genre of stupidity.

    Let’s see them: what lies?

    Here’s my favorite Obama lie.. Feb. 24th 2010 – ” I am an ardent believer in the free market”

    Somemore
    (broken promise/ lie) Allow five days of public comment before signing bills
    (broken promise/ lie) Support human mission to Mars by 2020
    (broken promise/ lie) Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels.

    (broken promise/ lie) End income tax for seniors making less than $50k
    “I Will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This will eliminate taxes for 7 million seniors — saving them an average of $1,400 a year– and will also mean that 27 million seniors will not need to file an income tax return at all.”

    (broken promise/ lie)
    To achieve health care reform, “I’m going to have all the negotiations around a big table. We’ll have doctors and nurses and hospital administrators. Insurance companies, drug companies — they’ll get a seat at the table, they just won’t be able to buy every chair. But what we will do is, we’ll have the negotiations televised on C-SPAN, so that people can see who is making arguments on behalf of their constituents, and who are making arguments on behalf of the drug companies or the insurance companies. And so, that approach, I think is what is going to allow people to stay involved in this process.”

    (broken promise/ lie)
    “No political appointees in an Obama-Biden administration will be permitted to work on regulations or contracts directly and substantially related to their prior employer for two years. And no political appointee will be able to lobby the executive branch after leaving government service during the remainder of the administration.”

    (broken promise / lie)
    “I cannot guarantee that it is going to be in the first 100 days. But what I can guarantee is that we will have in the first year an immigration bill that I strongly support and that I’m promoting. And I want to move that forward as quickly as possible.”

    I got more stuff if you want to see all I can find…. I haven’t even started on the Rev. Wright lies.

  • Liberty_Hound

    GlennBeckReview said:
    PLEASE NOTE: A BROKEN PROMISE IS NOT A LIE.

    GBR, you promise something and then renege is the same as lying when there was nothing to prevent the promise from being carried out. When you make a promise you have no intentions of fulfilling is a lie. Were you born yesterday? What planet are you from? I know….Obama forgot …let me get back to you on that one. I mean he had to say something to get elected. Just like the late Senator Byrd had to be in the KKK to get elected, he really wasn’t racist. (A little off subject… but it it’s a great lie by the left)

    GBR you have no credibility. You’re just a political hack . It’s a lie when the conservatives do it but not when the liberals do it. Who’s paying you anyway. What a joke. Why don’t you run for office, you’ll fit right in with the Marxist party.

  • StandUp

    GlennBeckReview said:
    PLEASE NOTE: A BROKEN PROMISE IS NOT A LIE.

    Now tell everyone you were just kidding or they’ll think you really believe this, hurry before it’s too late.
    You were just kidding right?
    Does it depend on what the definition of is – is? Is oral sex considered sex?
    btw- have you spoken to Al or Ed lately?

    Penguin60 said:
    A vote for the most inane post of the day goes to gbrzombie

    How about so far this year? Some type of award or trophy is due.

    GBR is still the most hypocritical, promisebreaking poster on this site

  • shle896

    FINALLY, somebody gets it right about these simple-minded fools who do nothing for the GOP but dumb it down and ruin it for real conservatives who have actual ideas and real substantive view points.

    Unfortunately, these three wield more power and earn more money by being mean and divisive and throwing around one-liners like Joan Rivers at Caesar’s Palace. They are clowns in a circus, with Fox News and their radio shows serving as their bully pulpit.

    It’s a sad state of affairs and its difficult for anybody, especially younger people, to ever give the GOP a serious thought. It’s making me question my very own party for the first time in decades. How sad.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Denis-Roussel/1513080544 Denis Roussel

    How nice of David Plouffe to be so concerned for the future of the Republican Party. One thing about radical leftists is their compassion for their enemies. And if you believe that, do I have a deal for you. There is this mountain valley land south of Dulac, Louisiana….

    Remember the warnings that if Rand Paul were the nominee in Kentucky, it would be a walkover for the Democrat? Well, he’s up by double digits. Angle is running even with Reid in Nevada. Miller is up double digits in Alaska. Palin is polling even with Obama for 2012. Guess what, Guys. Things ain’t looking so good for the radical left in November.

  • http://none pyrope

    Plouffe: “Beck, Palin, And Limbaugh Spell Big Trouble For GOP In 2012″

    Only in his wildest and wettest dreams.

  • http://none pyrope

    Denis Roussel said:
    There is this mountain valley land south of Dulac, Louisiana

    Hey dude, I’ve SEEN that mountain. It’s oyster shells, right? Actually, I didn’t know that anyone knew were Dulac is located. How about Gueydan, Meaux, and Boutte?

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    notsofast says about the GlennBeckReview, “You are the biggest collection of lib feces I have ever seen.”

    This is why I prefer comment anarchy rather than monitors limited free speech. Comments be people who are “not so fast” go far to show what independent and undecided voters are facing this and every election: the ideas to solve America’s problems or the crass, low-brow idiocy of the reactionary right.

    Not so fast is a tool of the backlash that’s been documented in The Backlash by Will Bunch. Mr. Beck is the tool maker in chief.

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/09/racialized-memories-and-class.html

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Denis Roussel says: “Guess what, Guys. Things ain’t looking so good for the radical left in November.”

    Because the reactionary right has been so effective with its propaganda. The polls are showing wild swings week to week, and there’s still time for independent Americans to wake up and notice what party is solving problems and what party is causing them.

    Just say no to solving problems: vote the Glenn Beck’s choices or any member of the Party of No, Hell No and We’ve Got Nothing New to Offer.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Liberty_Hound says: “When you make a promise you have no intentions of fulfilling is a lie. ”

    Now reactionaries are “proving” that Obama is a liar by knowing what is inside his head, of knowing his intentions.

    Nice try. (Not really.) You’re grasping at straws, and Beck connects lines between these kinds of straws and calls it a conspiracy. The plebeians who don’t know any better get roused off their couches and join the 9-12 hypocrites or the Taxed Enough Already morons (taxes are at a 50 low).

    When reactionaries lead in the polls, this country is in serious trouble.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    GlennBeckReview said: “PLEASE NOTE: A BROKEN PROMISE IS NOT A LIE.”

    StandUp reacts, “Now tell everyone you were just kidding…”

    If I’m wrong, then every pol who’s ever been elected is a liar.

    By definition: breaking a promise, often something that is outside of someone’s control in political environments where compromise is the rule, is not the same as, oh, let’s say a President claiming that Iraq had connections to Al Quada or that it had WOMD. THOSE were lies, and thousands of people on both sides lost their lives as a consequence.

    Get real Stand Up.

  • Liberty_Hound

    GlennBeckReview said:
    GlennBeckReview said: “PLEASE NOTE: A BROKEN PROMISE IS NOT A LIE.”

    StandUp reacts, “Now tell everyone you were just kidding…”

    If I’m wrong, then every pol who’s ever been elected is a liar.

    By definition: breaking a promise, often something that is outside of someone’s control in political environments where compromise is the rule, is not the same as, oh, let’s say a President claiming that Iraq had connections to Al Quada or that it had WOMD. THOSE were lies, and thousands of people on both sides lost their lives as a consequence.

    Get real Stand Up.

    On 2nd thought you’re right… I forgot Obama is Jesus so how could he possibly say he would wait 5 days to sign a bill to give time for public comment and not mean it… Sure he had to compromise.. So with hard negotiations he got it down to ASAP. I wonder what he got in return?. Not having to hear the public discourse until the damage was done. I mean how hard was this promise to keep. When a bill is passed by congress then take a vacation and sign when you get back. It’s not like he has a problem taking vacations.

    What a joke. And in a lot of respects most politicians are liars. But Obama can’t even kept a simple promise. He has full control when he signs a bill. There is nothing he had to negotiate or compromise. Your excuses for Obama’s lies doesn’t hold up.

    Just so you know my politic. I’m a Libertarian conservative. I want the federal government to be as small as possible,. I want power given back to the States were the they both have to stay within the Constitution. I want the Federal Government to stop finding reasons to spend our money and to stop spending money we do not have. I want the Federal Government to get out of the Education business and the car and banking business. I want them to stop rescuing pension plans, failed companies and states. I want them to stop printing money at their whim. And that goes for Democrats and Republicans.

    The politicians are paying us off with our own money and I’m tired of it. Everybody has a hand out.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Liberty_Hound says: “On 2nd thought you’re right… I forgot Obama is Jesus…”

    Readers of these comments are supposed to take you seriously about anything ever again why?

  • Liberty_Hound

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Liberty_Hound says: “On 2nd thought you’re right… I forgot Obama is Jesus…”

    Readers of these comments are supposed to take you seriously about anything ever again why?

    It’s called sarcasm. Ever heard of it?

    But I like how you cherry pick.. I’ve noticed you are good at it. Some how I don’t think you feel like a hypocrite when you do it. You never addressed the lie Obama told from that same post. That’s what the left does when they have no argument. Find something else of little or no substance to bring up.

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