Rand could have pulled a Schumer ( Don’t you know who I am?), but he’s got too much class.

All these republicans are shad

Too bad he isn’t an  illegal alien, he would be free to go.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/22/2602909/immigration-authorities-released.html

Terrorist!

He is being treated just like any of us. As it should be. Until he gets the laws changed, and he has the power to do that as a Senator, then he needs to put up and shut up, just like the rest of us.

Yeah, it turns out he was carrying a pocket Constitution.

MSNBC’s Kelly O’Donnell
reported that the TSA is very specific with what it means by
“detaining” individuals, and that it has so far admitted only to
“holding” Sen. Paul and not allowing him to board his scheduled flight.

True. TSA doesn’t have detention powers. That falls to airport or local police or FBI.

That only works if you’re a Democrat.  TSA has been used as a political tool, under Bush they never attempted sexual assault on the public.

Untrue, Chuck. My wife got felt up in a TSA line in New Orleans during the W Reign.

Someone needs to tell these people to take off their tin foil hats before they go through the scanners. You’re delaying legitimate, reasonable passengers and you are costing the taxpayers money.

More likely, “Atlas Shrugged”.

If he were a muslim or dressed like one, he would not have been detained. The TSA and Big Sis are giving him a ‘smack down’.

It was obvious he left his foil hat on. Anyone could have seen that.

Che Lover.

obviously – you have no idea who Rand Paul is.  He is the most vocal representative against the TSA, and the Patriot Act, besides probably his father.  

He apparently did not oppose the pat down on the basis of who he is.  Well actually, that is not true. 

He DID oppose on on the basis of who he is – an American citizen entitled to be free of unreasonable search from the US government.    

Unfortunately for us American citizens, the difference is mere semantics really.  When you are not free to go, that seems like a detention to me. 

The TSA’s position on this matter is the same as Bill Clinton asking what the definition of “is” is. 

This.  Most definitely this.

This is clearly a set up. He was looking for trouble and found it. Oh, and by the way, under W’s administration, I made it throught without any problems what so ever. However, I was stopped before I boarded a flight and went through a pat down search. It took less than 30 seconds. Big deal.

Flan59, did you know that the TSA actually violated the Constitution by detaining Paul?  I didn’t either until today but:

The constitution protects federal lawmakers from detention while they’re on the way to the Capital.

“The Senators and Representatives…shall in all Cases, except Treason,
Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their
Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to
and returning from the same….” according to Article I, Section 6.

His liberty bells were so heavy they made the pornoscanner malfunctions

Why did you change this comment from “He’s a terrorist” to LMAO?

You’re free to go, just not through into the secure area. Unless you’re detained, and then that’s another agency detaining you.

liar

God bless our police state.

He’s just not intellectual enough to understand that molestation is the key to socialistic, communistic, Darwinian truth-lightenment. 

You should’ve kept your hands to yourself in public

You are absolutely right…I’m sure Ayn Rand Paul was just looking for some publicity ala J.C. Watts…..If the media is not picking on Republicans TSA is…

It was probably the most fun she’s had in years !!

Tin Foil Hats !!!

*drink*

Tin Foil Hat !!

*drink*

I find that people whose sole purpose is to assign blame have no desire to see the underlying activity curtailed in any way. Noobs like you just want your preferred goons blasting chemicals in people’s faces or feeling up honest citizens.

I want it to stop and for both parties to f*** right off and for the broken system to be fixed. In the Authoritarian’s mind, if only someone who was right and true was at the reigns, everything would be good again. People who do  not have Authoritarian style brains tend to recognize that just because you agree with someone at the moment doesn’t mean that they can never do wrong. People like you are what is wrong with this country.

One thing that gets to me is no matter how many people complain, no matter how high the public polls in favor of limiting the TSA’s thuggery, they are not dealt with. They continue their expansion into train stations AND NOW GOD DAMNED HIGHWAYS! Get ready to get felt up by the TSA terrorists if you want to drive more than 5 god damned miles in the future IN YOUR OWN CAR. And still no one does a god damned thing. The politicians and the voters have developed a negative feedback loop where they make each other stupider.

Rand Paul is a terrorist.  I intend to use this against his dad after Newt & the Froth guy drop out.

Rand Paul is probably the biggest threat to eliminate the TSA.  They were just trying to protect their jobs.

“Patty-cake, patty-cake….”

LOL

Which is why the TSA does not detain people as noted above.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Rand Paul is a threat to no one. He may well have been the least productive and influential senator during the last session. Objectively so.

Got it.  I though the TSA actually “detained” him.  I didn’t realize he was free to go.

Darwinian truth? So what we were made by some supernatural being from dirt?  You refer to two ideologies and one scientific theory (look up the word as most creationist mistake it’s true meaning) to make a point?

This is a true story.

Several months ago a student from a Cincinnati university went to his grandmothers funeral in Richmond, VA. On his way back going through the TSA agents at the Richmond Airport. The TSA agents wanted to do the same thing to him. To help them out he undressed down to the gym shorts he was wearing underneath his pants. He and evidently a good friend had taken the time to write the Fourth Amendment on his torso in black marker. I have the picture and it’s written very legibly.

In the future if I do take a trip..I shall do the same.

because I can. 

Another “cheap thrill” for the liberal union homosexuals at TSA.

Yes, and at one time it used to mean something as did the rest of the constitution. there was once a particularly and feisty congressman from Vermont who had a bone to pick with John Adams over the Alien and Sedition Acts, making it illegal to print false, scandalous and malicious statements about the government. Congressman Lyons had written a letter deemed to have insulted President Adams as he portrayed the president as a monarch, Lyons was arrested but the congressman continued to write from his jail cell, and here is what followed.

“The citizens of Vermont made clear their feelings by taking up a collection to pay the fine and overwhelmingly reelecting him to Congress while he sat in his cell. On the day of his release, the marshal was waiting outside to re-arrest him for writing seditious letters from jail. He foiled that attempt by announcing immediately he was leaving for Congress, thus invoking congressional privilege. In Philadelphia, Federalists again tried, but failed, to evict him from Congress for his conviction for sedition.”

Ledbetter, Mark David (2010-04-12). America’s Forgotten History, Part 1: 

I guess you’re in favor of having another 911 and having 3,000 + more people die.  I probably have 4-5 ibs. of metal in my body and know and expect to have a through pat down.  It’s absolutely no big deal and only takes seconds.

Authoritarianism is what we’ve been subjected to since the health care fight.  Its part of the ideological divide of liberals and conservatives.  Liberals believe government should tell you what to do, conservatives believe you should have the freedom to think for yourself.  That’s an oversimplification but it extends in to all kinds of circumstances, including choosing whether to act lawfully or the government assuming you are a criminal and treating you like one.  I prefer the former.  I have no intention of ever robbing anyone, but I don’t want to get strip searched every time I go outside my front door because some local government goon thinks its possible I could be a criminal.   

Relating police response to OWS protesters to airline customers is crazy.  The OWS protesters choose to push or break laws and suffer the consequences.  Airline passengers are paying customers who just want to be left alone to get from point A to B.   If 1 in 10,000,000 customers is a threat, how much sense does it make to treat all 10,000,000 as criminals?   If you are in the current administration it makes lots of sense.

If so, it wasn’t the US Constitution…

Most of his colleagues in the Senate say his has been the most productive, engaged, and influential freshman Senator is some time.  He has led the fight against the erosion of our civil liberties. I know his has an “R” by his name….. but give the man some credit.

I see this as Rand Paul trying to get Ron Pauls supporters fired up more, isn’t this something right up their alley?  Paul hasn’t been getting much attention with the Romney/Gingrich nightmare going on…..

why?

TSA detains Senator after “anomaly” in body scan
…the “anomaly” is a backbone that causes him to stand up against the d-cRAT socialist BIG GOVERNMENT nanny/police state.

How many millions have died fighting for our freedoms written into the constitution that we today seem so willing to throw away? How much has that one event really cost this country and if I were keeping score I would say that the terrorist have won with a lopsided score when you consider the costs in blood, treasure, and contraction of constitutionally guaranteed freedoms that has occurred since an act committed by men in tents. 

Wake up and project forward about the police state we are creating out of fear of an unseen enemy.  Who will place limits on such a state after we have allowed them the precedents needed to render the constitution invalid in controlling their actions.  How many constitutional freedoms have we subordinated to the Patriot and  National Defense Authorization Acts?

Harry (what’s a budget?) Reid is the least productive Senator.

Pat down search isn’t the same as a strip search, which is what the TSA has been doing since 2009.

Are you that naive? He WANTED to be detained.  He, just like his father, thinks they have the right to follow the laws they like and say no the other others.

And, of course, TSA was FOUNDED UNDER W!!! Part of the GOP’s ongoing scare tactics.

So, you’re calling someone a liar b/c you don’t believe him? Typical. 

Oh, ok…. ur ignorance is palpable.

Do you speak English? your story is unintelligible.

Yes they transferred him into the custody of the local police…  so that makes this all “kosher”. LOL I hope that Paul gets every inch of mileage out of this that he deserves as he continues his fight against the TSA. 

I was commuting from California to Michigan all through 2001 and much of 2002/2003, and received numerous pat downs.  That was no big deal, the worst part for me was taking belt on and off and back on (took time).  Placing their hands underneath underwear of elderly and children (and adults) occasionally in full view of public is what Obama administration has them doing now.  Next it’ll be prostate checks.

Your spelling proves you were a liberal arts minor in drinking games.

The TSA cancer scan or grope rules have nothing to do with airport security.  It has everything to do with conditioning the American people to accept indignations, like a good slave nation.

Anyone who wanted to fly a jet full of explosives into a skyscraper would use a private charter, or private jet, where there is no security check.  The Saudis have millions for jets!

rand paul is outraged by tsa detention, and the long arm of gov’t control,  while on his way to speak at anti-abortion rally.  you just couldn’t make this stuff up! 
http://littlebiggy.org/4706149

Or “The Turner Diaries”

Socialist BIG GOVERNMENT nanny/police state … that GW Bush and Dick Cheney put into place after 11 September 2001.

You wanted fear, and now you have it. Enjoy!

That’s a big, overwrought pocket!

 I don’t believe that any of these policies make us safer. For example in NYC, they have tons of checkpoints and bag checks set up in and around Penn Station, but most other subway stops are unprotected. The TSA implements new security measures AFTER somebody slips through. It wasn’t until after a guy got on a plane with a bomb in his shoe that they started making us remove our shoes. How does that make us safe? The government cannot protect us from every bad thing. It’s impossible.

Let’s not give Obama a break on this, either. Everyone on both aisles is responsible for this bullshit.

More to the point, he’s calling someone a liar because he does not want to believe him.  He lives in his own reality. 

How did you know he didn’t? 

Those pro-abortion people fight dirty, next they will take on the Catholic Church.

this is all a fake publicity stunt by the Republicans to scare us in reducing our government size and spending. 

Looks clear enough to me. What part of writing the 4th amendment on his torso did you find unintelligible?

It’s pretty clear that he intended to get in the face of the TSA about violating his rights.

He made his point better than saying “Don’t touch my junk”.

You CAN’T be serious!

If I were convinced these checks really did any good, I wouldn’t mind. I’m pretty sure that, since the TSA inception, this has been show and tell. If you’ve ever flown out of AMD, BRU, CDG, FRA, LHR, you know that security there seems much more effective, while much less intrusive.

You only objected after Obama was mentioned. That seems to be a bit of a tell.

Read it once in college and once about 10 years ago. Unmitigated krap by a narcissistic nymphomaniac.

Fine with me. I’m certainly no fan of the TSA.

You may have something there. It is a shame the Republicans nominated a space cadet against him him in 2010. They could have won. The chicken lady would have easily beaten him.

Hey, you guys started this TSA nightmare. I’m not sure it is possible to rid ourselves of it.

True.

I’ve yet to meet a pro-abortion person. I might like to talk to one. Where might I find one?

—

Don’t worry about the RC Church. We’ve got nuns. They can control anything.

You are FOR detaining Americans without cause? Just for visiting the airport? Ok then.

Actually, it was George W Bush who put all those TSA employees in airports to guard against terrorists like the shoebomber.  I guess there is a possiblity that Rand Paul is really a terrorist.  I knew he was a racist and anti-civil rights, but didn’t think he would actually carry a bomb aboard a plane.

Hell, half of the women who are pro-choice are catholic and a heck of a lot of them lean Republican.  In fact, more women who actually get an abortion are republican women. 

I don’t know of anyone who is “pro-abortion” but I know a lot of good people who are “pro-choice”.

you never know what these racist republicans are actually thinking

No, it has to do with a machine to make sure you aren’t carrying a weapon rammed up your ass.

Hold on – I don’t think Obama was in congress or the white house when George w Bush hired those millions of TSA employees to check the cavities of people boarding flights.  I think the flying people need the assurance that Rand Paul isn’t carrying a bomb up his butt.

If that TSA employee had allowed him to go through, he would have had a news conference and surrendered the weapon he was carrying up his rear just to show how ineffective TSA is.
That’s what this is all about.

Interesting verb choice.

Last time I checked murder was against the law…. even in a small government.

A Rand Paul publicity stunt?

Senator Rand Paul should learn how to avoid problems like this. All he has to do is dress up in a long black robe and a berka and announce that it is against his religion to be frisked!

I’m sure Jon Stewart would be very proud of you. You said a whole bunch of meaningless snark and never made a single point at all! You’re one of his best students!

If he is having problems with gay TSA agents, he should always travel with Congresswoman Michele Bachmann!  They start running the other way when they see her coming (no, I do not mean “coming” in the sense of breathing hard and moaning)!

“The father should not suffer for the sins of his children!”

The next thing you know, you will be suggesting that Ron Paul put Shemus on top of the plane in in a crate!

If Sandra Bullock gets a job as a TSA agent, I will be happy to stand in line if she agrees to strip search me!

STOP USING THE AIRLINES!!!! WHEN THEY START HURTING IN THE POCKETS THEY WILL CHANGE THEIR WAYS!!!

if he was a dem this wouldnt be news……

BUSH WAS WRONG TO GO FOR A BAILOUT BUT OBAMA WAS AT THE MEETING AND IF HE HAD SAID (NO) TO THE BAILOUT—IT WOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED. HE SAID “YES”.

If he was a Black woman this would’ not be news…and I know from personal experience!

The Constitution, the 4th Amendment:
Amendment 4 – Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or
affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
persons or things to be seized.

Fairly straight forward.  Unless there is probable cause that an individual is up to no good and police obtain a search warrant, they are to keep their hands off everybody.  

There is also the prohibition against arresting a legislator in Article I, Section 6:
Section 6 – Compensation

(The Senators and Representatives shall receive a
Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the
Treasury of the United States.) (The preceding words in parentheses
were modified by the 27th Amendment.)

They shall in all Cases, except Treason,
Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their
Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and
returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they
shall not be questioned in any other Place.
The TSA are a bunch of uniformed thugs.

Conservatives constantly mocked anyone who raised concerns about the issue. Remember Hannity ridiculing a group as the ‘Flying Imams?”

I
was subjected to a body search. Why should Rand Paul be exempted?

LOL. The five year old altar boy you keep on a dog leash is not your wife, Mr. Goodcatholic.

He certainly deserves more credit than anyone with a (D) by their name. The shit the Dems have been allowed to get away with in the last few years id criminal.

Thankfully for the rest of us, you don’t get to redefine words to what you’d like them to mean.

Murder is illegal; abortion is not. Ipso facto, murder is not abortion and abortion is not murder.

TSA rules and practices are dumb as dirt, but they sure as heck prevent anyone from walking onto planes with bombs larger than what is allowed in the overhead bin.

Don’t you feel safer?

I haven’t been on a plane since high school. 

The TSA worked exactly as it should.  Quite frankly if I as a private citizen flying from any American airport goes through this procedure, why should someone elected by other citizens such as myself not comply.  Ron Paul showed something of his true colors didn’t he?  He is offended?  Why? Should not someone running for President, blowing about equality and integrity and all people being treated the same, not applaud the TSA for not giving, even a U.S. Senator a free pass?

Why should someone elected by the people, who have to comply with this procedure, be allowed to walk away given special status.  These Congress people work for us.  They are simply us in a different job.  Rand Paul has no more right to expect special treatment than you or me.  Agreed.

I have had the same thing done at the airport.  I don’t care.  It was less than a few minutes and then the flight crew addressed a security issue, I reported to them and we flew away.  I have found the system just fine.

Thank you.  Stated like a true warrior.  My kind of people.

This is a breach of law in my opinion.  The people that work for us, should not be allowed a free pass on the laws that they create and apply to the rest of us. Oh well, insider traders galore.

Yah, September 11, 2001!  big scare tactic!!!!!!!!!!