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Tea Party Group Accused of Voter Intimidation in Houston Early Voting

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In a story that’s sure to draw comparisons to the New Black Panther Party member who brandished a nightstick at a Philadelphia polling place in 2008, a Tea Party group called the King Street Patriots has been accused of “1960s style” voter intimidation in primarily minority precincts on the first day of early voting in Texas. The group is being sued by the Texas Democratic Party, following the filing of 14 voter intimidation complaints with the county clerk, and another two dozen with the Texas Democratic Party chairman.

How will the media, both conservative and “lamestream,” treat this story?

There are key differences between the NBPP story and the King Street Patriots incidents. The New Black Panther incident was a one-off that was dealt with quickly by police, whereas the incidents in Houston were more widespread. Harris County Clerk spokesman Hector DeLeon and Texas Democratic Party chairman Gerry Birnberg described the incidents to The Houston Chronicle:

DeLeon said the county clerk’s office received 14 complaints of alleged voter intimidation at 11 voting locations on Monday, the first day of early voting for the Nov. 2 general election. Birnberg said his office forwarded about two dozen complaints to the county attorney’s office.

“In any election year you get one or two over-zealous poll watchers, but this was a pattern throughout minority early voting precincts,” (Texas Democratic Party chairman Gerry Birnberg said.

“We hope it can be resolved by government authorities pointing out to these folks that they not only are acting undemocratically but blatantly illegally.”

The King Street Patriots deny that they were intimidating voters.

While the allegations in this case are much more widespread than in the NBPP story, so far, there is no video of the incidents in Houston, which makes this story a tougher sale. The Houston incidents also lack the explosive element of weaponry, as first assistant Harris County attorney Terry O’Rourke describes them:

The complaints, he said, came from Kashmere Gardens, Moody Park, Sunnyside and other predominantly minority neighborhoods. The complaints included poll watchers “hovering over” voters, “getting into election workers’ faces” and blocking or disrupting lines of voters waiting to cast their ballots.

“Keep in mind these are allegations of voter intimidation,” O’Rourke said. “It’s sometimes in the eye of the beholder.”

While it makes for a much less sexy story, this subtler form of intimidation is more effective and harder to pin down.

Still, the fact that this story is such a natural counterweight to the New Black Panther story means that it will probably become fodder for political panel discussions on cable news shows. If this pattern continues, and/or if some remotely interesting video emerges, it could become a huge part of the midterm media narrative.

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  • Big Eddie

    Big Eddie loves the smell of desperation in the liberal air .

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    “How will the media, both conservative and “lamestream,” treat this story?”

    How did Mediaite and the liberal media treat the Black Panther story? You all ignored it, or downplayed it as no big deal.

  • Azarkhan

    Another Big Lie.

  • Azarkhan

    BTW, we all know that Democrats will be using voter intimidation tactics in many areas this election, as they have in the past. I’d call this article a preemptive strike: smear the Tea Party with the same charge beforehand. It doesn’t matter if it’s false. What matters is that it become part of the leftist blogosphere and mainstream media narrative on the Tea Party. Nice cover for Nov 2.

  • mrmikey10425

    It’s all a setup to paint the Tea Party as racist and as intimidating as NBPP. The one question that will clear this up is “WHERE’S THE PROOF”?

    There was video-taped confirmation of the NBPP intimidation. These complaints are nothing more than scandalous here-say.

  • NORBIT

    Another CONTRIVED Propaganda Piece that will be dutifully promulgated by Democratic Media! – too bad their MSM doesn’t monopolize the message any more…now there’s a FOX in the house!!

  • TfT

    LOL….too funny Tommy.

    How will the media treat Michelle campaigning in a voting station? They will ignore it.

    The real question is: How will mediaite and it’s master MSNBC treat this story. Answer: They will blow it out of proportion, sensationalize it, claim it’s nothing like the NBPP incident….it has already started here.

    How about the story about Palin and 1773 and how Gwen Ifil was put to shame over her comment regarding Palin’s comment? I sent the link in earlier figuring for sure, with the new fairness round here and everything, it would immediately get the attention of mediaite staff and the headline would blare: PALIN IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT…but alas, my hopes and dreams of seeing such a headline here have vanished.

    Kind of like the HInchey story…..never headlined, barely mentioned.

    it is what it is.

  • Harry Flashman

    I note that the piece doesn’t include any comment from the accused other than a generic denial without attribution. I’d also be interested in just who the folks are that actually filed a complaint and what (if any) their association is with each other or with a common entity of one type or another.

    Of course, we can’t expect ouir “journalists” to do that sort of basic investigation, can we?

  • Penguin60

    “The complaints included poll watchers “hovering over” voters, “getting into election workers’ faces” and blocking or disrupting lines of voters waiting to cast their ballots.”

    You can’t do anything in this world without somebody taping or filming. Widespread? Let’s have at it and prosecute.

    “While it makes for a much less sexy story, this subtler form of intimidation is more effective and harder to pin down.”
    I thought it was an allegation. More effective than standing in fatigues with batons?

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7253109.html

    I love the smell of desperation in the morning…it smells like …victory.

  • Harry Flashman

    I agree with Penguin60 – put up or shut up. There has to be video out there because the first thing people do these days is to grab a camera or cell phone and start looking fior their 15 minutes of fame.

    It would be viral by now. Where is it?

  • cd ohio

    voter intimidation is wrong, of any color or race, but a news story has to contain proof ..proof….proof.

  • chucken

    This Houston Democract will now vote early and any teabagger that wants to get in my face will get his ass kicked thank you and I will have it on video.These white trash racists think they can do what? Think again.

  • cd ohio

    proof

  • sarainitaly

    The MSM smeared FOX as trying to promote the *scary black man* image for covering the NBPP voter intimidation story, which they ignored.

    Sounds like we now have the *scary lemonade stand* story, which of course will get tons of coverage. Funny though that their very mission is to ensure that voter intimidation doesn’t occur, like it did all through the primary and general election.

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  • Harry Flashman

    Wait a minute. I just caught this in the story after it said there were no weapons involved, just hovering, etc….

    “While it makes for a much less sexy story, this subtler form of intimidation is more effective and harder to pin down.”

    Hovering is more effective than standing there in a para military uniform with clubs? And verbally threatening people? WHAT?

    Had to spin it, didn’t you?

  • Penguin60

    chucken said:
    This Houston Democract will now vote early and any teabagger that wants to get in my face will get his ass kicked thank you and I will have it on video.These white trash racists think they can do what? Think again.

    Another lemming reactionary, what a joke.

    From the above article:

    “True the Vote, a nonprofit organization founded by several Tea Party activists who go by the name King Street Patriots, had promised to verify voters’ credentials at polling places, but it was unclear whether complaints involved members of the group.”

  • cd ohio

    journalism is dead on both sides, now it is just commentary, what a shame

  • NORBIT

    Hey, is the naacp guy that wants to kill “cracka’ babies” part of the Democrat lawsuit?

    (I know he’s a new black panther, but they & the naacp have similar racist bias’ against whites).

  • chucken

    Penguin, Some teabagger is going to verify my right to vote.I need to prove to them I can vote when I kick them in the nuts.VOTE COUNTED!

  • sarainitaly

    What am I missing?

    Nothing in this complaint has to do with voter intimidation happening at polling places…? And there is NO WAY this was just filed based on events happening today. This was a premeditated preemptive move, attacking the group.

    http://static.texastribune.org/media/documents/King_street_complaint_1.pdf

    Based on that complaint and the Chron story, without actual video, it sounds conspicuously like these 14 complaints are part of the coordinated effort to attack this group, and nothing to do with real, actual complaints.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7253109.html

    ‘Kevin Mauzy, chief deputy county clerk, said more poll watchers than usual showed up during the first day of early voting, and their numbers may have made some voters uneasy. “They’re entitled to watch the process,” he said.
    True the Vote, a nonprofit organization founded by several Tea Party activists who go by the name King Street Patriots, had promised to verify voters’ credentials at polling places, but it was unclear whether complaints involved members of the group.
    “I’m pretty confident that’s who it is,” said Gerry Birnberg, chairman of the Harris County Democratic Party. “Just connect the dots. No. 1, too much of the same thing was going on at each of the polling locations. No. 2, it’s consistent with what they announced they were going to do.”

    “Janie Reyes, who voted in Moody Park, said she witnessed poll watchers carrying on conversations with voters and clerks. “As I understand it, they’re not supposed to be talking,” she said.” – Of course it’s ok when FLOTUS Obama does it.

    It will be interesting, indeed, to see how this unfolds.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    This is possibly the most asinine story I’ve ever read. I guess this is the scenario Tommy would like us to imagine:

    Racist #1: Okay, boys, I have a plan to win this election.

    Racist #2: Just sit back, do nothing, and watch the wave that’s coming?

    Racist #1: No, no. I want to be aggressive. I want to stop the blacks from voting.

    Racist #3: Oh, I get it. Do you want to burn crosses on a bunch of lawns the night before the election?

    Racist #1: No, think BIGGER.

    Racist #2: You want us to stand outside polling places with billy clubs? I hear the U.S. DOJ doesn’t prosecute that any more.

    Racist #1: No, boys, BIGGER.

    Racist #3: I give up. What should we do?

    Racist #1: Wait for them to get INSIDE the polling place, and then HOVER OVER THEM!

    Racist #2: [Skeptically] Hoover?

    Racist #1: Yes, hover over them. Aggressively?

    Racist #3: I don’t get it. They’re already in the polling place. Do you think they’re just going to turn around and leave without voting just because someone is hovering over them?

    Racists #1: Of course, that ALWAYS works.

  • sarainitaly

    Penguin60 said:
    King Street Patriots, had promised to verify voters’ credentials at polling places

    Well, THERE’S the problem right there!

    I have no doubt it is very intimidating to be asked for credentials when voting illegally!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    Harry Flashman said:
    Wait a minute. I just caught this in the story after it said there were no weapons involved, just hovering, etc….

    “While it makes for a much less sexy story, this subtler form of intimidation is more effective and harder to pin down.”

    Hovering is more effective than standing there in a para military uniform with clubs? And verbally threatening people? WHAT?

    Had to spin it, didn’t you?

    He MUST spin it, because he knows very well that he and the left wing MSM ignored the BP voter intimidation story. He knows the MSM and Mediaite will be all over this one, so hes simply trying to inject some rationalization for his inconsistency.

  • lonestar77

    This is such a non-story that it’s buried in the metro section on chron.com (Houston Chronicle website). The Chronicle has been a left-wing paper since forever. They endorsed Bill White (of course) and even their sports reporters take daily pot shots at conservatives. Yet, this is such a non-story that even they don’t find it terribly newsworthy.

    BUT…to Tommy Christopher it’s the story of the century. BTW, Tommy left out a lot of the details (shocking) so if you want to read what the other side has to say and if you want to read that even the Dem chairman doesn’t know if anybody from any tea-party group is involved in any way, go find the story & read it.

  • Harry Flashman

    Anonymous Finch:

    LOL! Kudos. Yeah, that hovering will show ‘em all right.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    ATTENTION ALL RACISTS:

    It’s that time of year again! Are you busy making your last minute plans for how to best suppress black voters on election day ’10? Tired of the same old cross burnings, lynchings, and faux “literacy tests” outside of polling places? Want to try something new? Come to Houston where we’re pioneering the newest form of voter intimidation–21st century style! For more information, visit us at:

    http://www.hoveroverthem.com

  • TfT

    So we get this made up story but still NOTHING on:

    Coon’s ignorance regarding the first amendment.
    Leftart media’s ignorance on 1773

    But this is headlined here.

    Steve: As the MOST fair writer on this board, how bout addressing the “fairness” of what’s going on here?

    SInce Dan is silent as his mission statement is trashed by his very own columnists, how about mediaite staff stepping up to the plate and writing some stories that have a hint of honesty????

    I can ask, I know I wont get an answer….but, given we just had a discussion about the “fairness”of this site, I’m waiting for some examples.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    NORBIT says: “Another CONTRIVED Propaganda Piece”

    TNBP story was REAL news, but this is contrived?

    Welcome to the worlds of Fox and reality.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    In related news, the Houston Police Department is discontinuing the use of nightsticks. Apparently studies conducted by a Washington, D.C.-based research firm known as Christopher & Associates show that hovering over an unruly suspect is “more effective” than using a nightstick.

  • tatboy

    When you get a video and proof Tommy… let me know. But don’t report it TOO much. Remember what you said about Fox when THEY reported the NBPP story too much. You don’t want to be a hypocrite do you?

  • http://none pyrope

    What I want to know is how much was Tommy paid to write this so-called “article.” I think ol George Soros probably sent him a nice check with this weeks articles.

    Prove it? Why should I? Tommy hasn’t proven anything in what he writes, it’s quid pro quo time.

  • tatboy

    Side note: How many people wanna bet that Mediaite does NOT cover Gwen Ifill AND Kos fucking up in a major dumbass way and not knowing the Boston Tea Party was in 1773. Bagging on Palin for being dumb and showing how stupid they are. Classic story NOT covered by the MSM… guaranteed.

  • Dsiscokid

    Mouthpieces like a lot of the “Journ-o-Listers” at this site will be ginning up every type of slur, slander, lie, and accusation they can muster for the next two weeks. How many went to “J” school on the taxpayer’s dime?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    I smell desperation wrapped in racism from liberals. Poor little guys….

  • Dsiscokid

    BTW- If the Repubs that may get elected Nov. 2 think its “business as usual” i.e.- 1994 – 2006- you will see the end of the Republican Party come 2012 and beyond IMHO. Thoughts?

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    tatboy said:
    Side note: How many people wanna bet that Mediaite does NOT cover Gwen Ifill AND Kos fucking up in a major dumbass way and not knowing the Boston Tea Party was in 1773. Bagging on Palin for being dumb and showing how stupid they are. Classic story NOT covered by the MSM… guaranteed.

    NYT/PBS commentator launches sarcastic attack on a prominent conservative’s knowledge of history and winds up with egg on her face because she’s the know-nothing. What’s news worthy about that? (Especially to a media website.)

  • Dsiscokid

    Psalm 2 (King James Version)

    1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

    2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

    3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

    4He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

    5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

    6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same………..

  • Dsiscokid

    “Delight thyself also in the LORD: and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.”- Psalm 37:4

    Not “government” but GOD!!

  • BatBoy

    Tommy … I wouldn’t bet your writing career on this story….you will lose your job, then you will have to move back home with Mom and Dad in order to get some insurance.

    This story is not going to get any leg’s.

    But nice try!

  • Bill Mahwer

    The Repubs better make sure they are scrutinizing everything going on at the polls……. Chicago politics means you have to have a big buffer to win.

  • TfT

    This story, like a lot of other things that have been posted here lately, belong on gossip cop, not a site that purports to speak of news.

    Still nothing on the media-idiots who haven’t a clue at 1773.
    Still nothing on Coons idiocy and ignorance on the first amendment.

    Mediaite=gossip cop=msnbc=meltdown.

    A potential good site is proving itself nearly worthless of late.

    Someone wake up Dan and ask him to take control of the board.

  • philipjames

    Oh no…. those darn Tea Party types are doing what we do… how dare they? Voter intimidation? Next thing you know, they will be going to the schools and busing students to the advance polls and giving them Republican samples of the ballots and getting them to vote Republican and then of all things, taking them for ice cream after wards. When will it end, this terrible Alinsky style of intimidation.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    tomcable said:
    Hey Tommy — I haven’t seen anything about your patently stupid prediction from earlier this year that the Democrats will GAIN seats in the midterms. It just shows why someone with no political acumen or insight (or even a journalism degree) shouldn’t be anywhere near a laptop when it comes to reporting on these elections.

    The day after the election, I intend to post comments reminding Tommy of his silly prediction over and over again (equal to the number of seats gained the by Republicans in the House).

  • TfT

    Af abd tatboy

    I sent the link on the ifil story to mediaite hours ago. We need no further that gwen is indeed viewed as a lefty and not as an objective journo

    The leftwing writers have ignored ifils idiocy thereby spikingb the story to protect one of their own

    I guess that is what they mean when they say this board is fair or something

    Unfortunately mediaite is just becoming another site that propagandizes for the left

    A true embarrassment for dan I say

  • CosmosDan

    AnonymousFinch said:
    ATTENTION ALL RACISTS:

    It’s that time of year again! Are you busy making your last minute plans for how to best suppress black voters on election day ‘10?

    as funny as those jokes are , there really are laws about exactly what a poll watcher can or can’t do, and there were more than one or two complaints.

  • tatboy

    CosmosDan said:
    as funny as those jokes are , there really are laws about exactly what a poll watcher can or can’t do, and there were more than one or two complaints.

    Again, I want proof. Not some activists with an agenda. We had video proof (and nobody in the MSM cared)… what you got???

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    CosmosDan said:
    as funny as those jokes are , there really are laws about exactly what a poll watcher can or can’t do, and there were more than one or two complaints.

    Yes, there were multiple reports. All filed on the first day. All involving conduct that is so innocuous that it is purely one person’s word against another (i.e., even a neutral witness to the conduct could not say for sure whether there was “hovering” going on). Don’t you smell a rat?

    Why is it so easy for some people to believe accusations of evil behavior (racism), but it never occurs to them that sometimes evil people make false accusations? Remember the Duke “rape” case? Bad people are willing to contrive false accusations in order to get what they want. The burden is on them to prove their accusations. The burden is not on anyone to disprove the accusations. And the burden certainly isn’t on Tea Party members to disprove their non-racists-intentions because of unsubstantiated accusations like this.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    CosmosDan said:
    as funny as those jokes are

    But I appreciate you saying they were funny. If the Real Royal King sees them, he’ll probably place a call to the Justice Department to report me.

  • tigerprez

    Hmm. That’s kind of the exact opposite of this story about a tea partier being denied the right to vote:

    http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/19/dont-tread-on-me-tea-partiers-denied-the-right-to-vote-in-texas/

    Oh well. I’m sure that story got all of the facts exactly backwards, and it will turn out that it was a tea partier denying someone else the right to vote. Easy mistake to make, really. Did anyone else realize that those Black Panthers were actually Tea Partiers? Now we know.

  • http://MsUnderestimated.com MsUnderestimated

    Dronetek said:
    “How will the media, both conservative and “lamestream,” treat this story?”

    How did Mediaite and the liberal media treat the Black Panther story? You all ignored it, or downplayed it as no big deal.

    Amen. What I was gonna say.

  • roxsteady

    Hovering is also a no no but, apparently it’s not going to stop people from coming back. Why don’t these thugs want people to vote? Still think they’re going to win?

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/tea-party-group-accused-of-voter-intimidation-in-houston-early-voting/

  • roxsteady

    Oh, and the media ignored those 2 idiots because unlike this case, No one complained that they were intimidated. Got that? Idiots!

  • whytee

    Voter intimidation is one of the cornerstones of time-honored GOP dirty tricks. Look out for vote caging (when GOP operatives send out mailings to Democratic lists and anyone who ignores the mailings gets dropped from the voter rolls), voting machine irregularities, misleading phone calls that give voters a different day to vote, jamming of Dem phone lines on voting day, polling places mysteriously closed in Dem districts, misleading polling place signs put up on the night before voting day, etc.

    Even more creative ways of rigging elections were detailed in the book How to rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative http://www.amazon.com/How-Rig-Election-Confessions-Republican/dp/1416552235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287545882&sr=8-1

  • canditaylor68

    And then there is this

    Dem Playbook Shows Dirty Tactics
    http://townhall.com/Columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/10/27/dem_playbook_shows_dirty_tactics

    “If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a ‘pre-emptive strike.’” The manual said this should be done by placing stories in mainstream and specialty press “in which minority leadership expresses concern about the threat of intimidation tactics” and “prime minority leadership to discuss the issue in the media; provide talking points.”

    Some of the suggested talking points included lines like “Nothing is more despicable than trying to deprive any American of the previous right to vote, the foundation of our democracy for which so many have sacrificed.”

  • Alz

    Azarkhan said:
    BTW, we all know that Democrats will be using voter intimidation tactics in many areas this election, as they have in the past. I’d call this article a preemptive strike: smear the Tea Party with the same charge beforehand. It doesn’t matter if it’s false. What matters is that it become part of the leftist blogosphere and mainstream media narrative on the Tea Party. Nice cover for Nov 2.

    Exactly. The Liberals have nothing left, but to make things up.

  • Alz

    whytee said:
    Voter intimidation is one of the cornerstones of time-honored GOP dirty tricks. Look out for vote caging (when GOP operatives send out mailings to Democratic lists and anyone who ignores the mailings gets dropped from the voter rolls), voting machine irregularities, misleading phone calls that give voters a different day to vote, jamming of Dem phone lines on voting day, polling places mysteriously closed in Dem districts, misleading polling place signs put up on the night before voting day, etc.

    Even more creative ways of rigging elections were detailed in the book How to rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative http://www.amazon.com/How-Rig-Election-Confessions-Republican/dp/1416552235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287545882&sr=8-1

    You’re funny. The Democrats control all of the major cities – exactly the places with massive amounts of voter fraud and intimidation.

    It must be those militant small business owners!

    Thanks for the laugh, Azarkhan!

  • Tommy Christopher

    Dronetek said:
    “How will the media, both conservative and “lamestream,” treat this story?”

    How did Mediaite and the liberal media treat the Black Panther story? You all ignored it, or downplayed it as no big deal.

    Umm, we covered the hell out of it. Steve Krakauer even went on Fox News to talk about it.

  • Tommy Christopher

    The notion that if something isn’t caught on video, it didn’t happen, is sheer idiocy. It’s a standard of proof that you’d all abandon on a whim if it didn’t suit your purposes. Furthermore, as conservative “journalism” has shown us, even when there is video, it may or may not have happened.

    As it happens, this article never asserts that these are anything but allegations, the sources are all clearly labeled and linked, and the commentary is neutral as to the merits of the complaints. The purpose of the piece is to compare and contrast its potential as a media narrative relative to another voter intimidation story. Thus far, I haven’t seen a cogent argument against my conclusion.

  • D REX

    cd ohio said:
    voter intimidation is wrong, of any color or race, but a news story has to contain proof ..proof….proof.

    OH YOU MEAN LIKE THE BIRTHERS ON FUX NEWS

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    The Tea Party is already running ads that are discouraging minorities from voting so I really wouldn’t be surprised if they were also doing it in person.

    Im not sayin’ they are, jus sayin’ I wouldn’t be surprised.

    Anyway, someone is calling in all those complaints so even if it’s not true it sure is a great troll. It certainly got youse guiz all worked up! lolol

  • CosmosDan

    tatboy said:
    Again, I want proof. Not some activists with an agenda. We had video proof (and nobody in the MSM cared)… what you got???

    So far it’s just several allegations , but that means somebody needs to look into it. If poll watchers are a little over zealous and breaking voter laws then they need to be gone.

    What cracks me up is the automatic assumption that it didn’t happen. You don’t know anymore than I do.

    btw, I saw the video. You didn’t have any proof of voter intimidation and actually not one voter complaint. In this case you have a what 14? That at least deserves some investigating.

  • CosmosDan

    AnonymousFinch said:
    Yes, there were multiple reports. All filed on the first day. All involving conduct that is so innocuous that it is purely one person’s word against another (i.e., even a neutral witness to the conduct could not say for sure whether there was “hovering” going on). Don’t you smell a rat?

    What I smell is actual multiple complaints that at least deserve to be looked into. What gets me is the automatic dismissal of multiple complaints for purely partisan reasons. As the article says, there are strict guidelines and laws about what poll watchers are allowed to do, so if poll watchers are in the building and even verbally interfering with the process that can be breaking the law. We’ll see how it all pans out , but a partisan conclusion that the left does voter fraud and the right never does is just ridiculous. Have a preference but don’t turn off critical thinking.

    AnonymousFinch said:
    Why is it so easy for some people to believe accusations of evil behavior (racism), but it never occurs to them that sometimes evil people make false accusations? Remember the Duke “rape” case? Bad people are willing to contrive false accusations in order to get what they want. The burden is on them to prove their accusations. The burden is not on anyone to disprove the accusations. And the burden certainly isn’t on Tea Party members to disprove their non-racists-intentions because of unsubstantiated accusations like this.

    Sure it’s possible. Bias might be expressed in assuming guilt before seeing the evidence, and it’s equally expressed in assuming it’s all a lie. 14 complaints from several different locations at least deserves a little looking into. That’s how the law works.

    It doesn’t necessarily mean that charges will be filed but it may mean that poll watchers need to be reminded of the guidelines and what their limits are according to the law.

  • sarainitaly

    As far as *proof* so far we have a complaint that was filed that doesn’t actually contain any incidents of voter intimidation, just complaints about donors, and was filed on the day voting started, and mysterious anonymous stories of minority voter intimidation.

    And this:

    Dem Playbook Shows Dirty Tactics
    http://townhall.com/Columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/10/27/dem_playbook_shows_dirty_tactics

    “If no signs of intimidation techniques have emerged yet, launch a ‘pre-emptive strike.’” The manual said this should be done by placing stories in mainstream and specialty press “in which minority leadership expresses concern about the threat of intimidation tactics” and “prime minority leadership to discuss the issue in the media; provide talking points.”

    Like I said above, sounds like a preemptive, premeditated smear attack lobbed at a group that exists to protect voters rights, and legal and proper voting.

    Democrats are opposed to this group because they are dedicated to making sure voters provide the proper documents before they actually vote – to eliminate voter fraud.

  • sarainitaly

    By the way, do you know who the founder of King Street Patriots is?

    “In November of 2009, Catherine Engelbrecht and about 50 of her friends decided to get involved by working at the polls in elections. What they saw regarding lackadaisical attention to procedures at the polls greatly disturbed them. But even they weren’t ready for what they discovered after they decided to dig deeper into the problem by looking at the voter registration rolls.

    Engelbrecht and her friends initially used computers to analyze voter registration lists. They became curious when they noticed that a large number of voter registrations were from addresses that had more than six registered voters. Their analysis showed about 2,800 such voter registrations per district in Republican areas and 7,500 in Democrat voting districts. ”

    But the real shock occurred when they came across one voting district with approximately 20,000 such voter registrations. It was in a predominantly minority area in Houston. Of course, once the results were publicized, allegations arose that Engelbrecht’s group was guilty of targeting minorities, but Engelbrecht stuck to her guns and said, “It had nothing to do with politics. It was just the numbers.”

    The deeper they dug, the more they found. They found vacant lots with registered voters. They even found an eight-bed halfway house with 38 registered voters. Then they looked at who registered these voters, and one organization’s name came to the forefront. Vickie Pullen, a spokeswoman for True The Vote, informed The New American that of approximately 25,000 voter registrations submitted by Houston Votes, an organization headed by Sean Caddle, formerly with the Service Employees International Union, only 7,193 were valid.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/4922-major-vote-fraud-surfaces-in-the-houston-area

    That’s why they are attacking King Street Patriots.

  • sarainitaly

    Catherine Engelbrecht, founder of King’s Street Patriots strongly denies the allegations and noted that it was absurd that “little old ladies” would be intimidating anyone. She says that one 65 year old woman poll watcher came back from poll watching, after being kicked out for simply being present–itself a violation of the law–in tears.

    Engelbrecht also notes that King’s Street Patriots learned they were being sued by the Texas Democratic Party at 11 a.m. yesterday morning when not one poll watcher had yet been removed and not one complaint sent to the county about any untoward actions.

    In one instance, three poll watchers were yelled at by a Democrat Harris County Commissioner El Franco Lee who said,”Why are you here? We have never had poll watchers here. Ya’ll need to get on out of here.”

    Lee then demanded that the polling place judge give him information about the three poll watchers and the presiding judge complied–giving him their private information. The three poll watchers now fear for their safety and wonder what will be done with their personal information which included their phone numbers and home addresses.

    “We want everyone to have a free and fair election,” Englebrecht said. “That’s all we want. We are 100% innocent.”

    http://libertypundits.net/article/poll-watchers-claim-harassment-and-intimidation-at-houston-texas-voting-places/

  • Latin2

    Tommy, how do you know they are from the Tea Party?

    Unlike the New Black Panther Panther Party, you don’t have any proof they were aligned with the official Tea Party?

    Meanwhile the New Black Panther Party people in front of the voting place threatening people WERE TIED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

    …and that has been documented.

  • Latin2

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Umm, we covered the hell out of it. Steve Krakauer even went on Fox News to talk about it.

    uh…you tried to tie this group with the Official Tea Party, and meanwhile you didn’t report that the NBPP were OFFICIAL Democratic operatives and physical threatened people.

    You are a clearly unfair and not a real journalist.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Latin2 said:
    and meanwhile you didn’t report that the NBPP were OFFICIAL Democratic operatives and physical threatened people

    The NBPP just had night sticks. These guys were hovering. Everybody knows that hovering is “more effective.”

  • tatboy

    CosmosDan said:
    So far it’s just several allegations , but that means somebody needs to look into it. If poll watchers are a little over zealous and breaking voter laws then they need to be gone.

    What cracks me up is the automatic assumption that it didn’t happen. You don’t know anymore than I do.

    btw, I saw the video. You didn’t have any proof of voter intimidation and actually not one voter complaint. In this case you have a what 14? That at least deserves some investigating.

    If the video didn’t have any voter intimidation (guy with night stick???), why did even the Obama admin. ban him from polling places? And you saw the video and think there is NO evidence of voter intimidation with a night stick, but “hovering” is??? WTF! Double standard?

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    Tommy Christopher said:
    As it happens, this article never asserts that these are anything but allegations, the sources are all clearly labeled and linked, and the commentary is neutral as to the merits of the complaints. The purpose of the piece is to compare and contrast its potential as a media narrative relative to another voter intimidation story. Thus far, I haven’t seen a cogent argument against my conclusion.

    To assert, even though there is no solid evidence, the King Street Patriots is similar to the tactics perpetrated by the New Black Panther Party is ridiculous.

    From the Austin Chronicle: UPDATE: Today (Tuesday) the TDP distributed copies of an official Harris County report on voter complaints from Oct. 18 and early Oct. 19, including 11 complaints of “voter intimidation,” mostly described as “poll watcher intimidating voter inside voting area.” The report did not attribute the incidents to a particular party or group, but the Houston Chronicle reported that most complaints came from predominantly minority precincts.

    Christopher, did you get the copy of the report that named King Street Patriots?

    Did you know the Texas Democratic Party added its name to the list of parties suing the King Street Patriots for offenses connected to their pre-election activities in Harris County? Do you know who the TDP is joining in the suite? It’s a group called Texans For Public Justice a non-profit who is coincidently funded by a George Soros foundation.

  • tatboy

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Umm, we covered the hell out of it. Steve Krakauer even went on Fox News to talk about it.

    Ya, Tommy you covered the hell out of how Fox was over-reporting the story. Others in the “media” used terms like “Fox getting their Black Panther hardon”. Ya that’s fair. The MSM (ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR) and liberal media turned it into a story of how Fox was over-reporting because their all racists. That ain’t covering the story Tommy. That’s tamping down the story because it doesn’t fit your narrative. And liberal “journalism” has shown us even when you have video evidence it didn’t REALLY happen.

  • RIChris

    Liberal media has lied about, slanted and covered up so many stories for so many years, they are now being viewed as ‘the boy who cried wolf’. Credibility is necessary to be taken seriously.

  • tatboy

    VRWC Destruction Machine said:

    Did you know the Texas Democratic Party added its name to the list of parties suing the King Street Patriots for offenses connected to their pre-election activities in Harris County? Do you know who the TDP is joining in the suite? It’s a group called Texans For Public Justice a non-profit who is coincidently funded by a George Soros foundation.

    Tommy did not include that in the above article… shocking. Guess we don’t need ALL the facts. And didn’t the head of the DNC put out the rallying cry for this tactic BEFORE the elections even began? “We have information the the Tea Party will try to intimidate voters”. Really!!! Did that info come from the guy right next to you in the strategy meeting? And as we all know from Tommy’s hero Keith (Nazi high-five) Olbermann they’re all a bunch of teabagging rednecks. So of course this is all true.

  • Penguin60

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Thus far, I haven’t seen a cogent argument against my conclusion.

    What conclusions can you make from allegations?

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7253109.html

    From the article:
    True the Vote, a nonprofit organization founded by several Tea Party activists who go by the name King Street Patriots, had promised to verify voters’ credentials at polling places, but it was unclear whether complaints involved members of the group.”

  • BatBoy

    Tommy Christopher said:
    My Dad is dead, asshole.

    So is mine… asshole!

    A heart attack usually mellows people out…you have come back slinging more BS & made up stories than you did before…asshole!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Treacher/542957672 Jim Treacher

    “It’s just like the New Black Panthers case, except for all the things that are different.” You’re as sharp as ever, Tommy.

  • StewartIII

    NewsBusters| Mediaite’s Tommy Christopher: Student of the ThinkProgress School of Ethical Journalism
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/10/20/mediaites-tommy-christopher-student-thinkprogress-school-ethical-jou

  • CosmosDan

    tatboy said:
    If the video didn’t have any voter intimidation (guy with night stick???), why did even the Obama admin. ban him from polling places? And you saw the video and think there is NO evidence of voter intimidation with a night stick, but “hovering” is??? WTF! Double standard?

    The video does show a guy with a nightstick but the fact is not even one voter complained about voter intimidation. The only thing the video shows is the guy standing there sassing the cameraman, who was not a voter.
    He was not banned from polling places so you’d better check your facts. They matter.

    I didn’t claim there was any voter intimidation in the case mentioned in the article so get your facts straight there to.

  • CosmosDan

    sarainitaly said:
    By the way, do you know who the founder of King Street Patriots is?

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/4922-major-vote-fraud-surfaces-in-the-houston-area

    That’s why they are attacking King Street Patriots.

    That info is relevant but incomplete. States are supposed to go through their voter lists and correct them on a regular basis because people move, and die, etc,
    The other thing is that as people go out to register voters people will register several times of gatherers who are being paid will enter phony names. The state employees are supposed to verify before those voters become valid.
    The thing to remember that will all the accusations and numbers flying around , real incidents of people actually voting illegally is extremely rare. You’d think if thousands had done it there would be some solid evidence somewhere.
    There are official guidelines and laws regarding what a poll watcher can or can’t do and I think that’s what the article is about. If some people are over zealous as poll watchers they need to be reminded.

  • Ninja

    CosmosDan said:
    standard?
    The video does show a guy with a nightstick but the fact is not even one voter complained about voter intimidation. The only thing the video shows is the guy standing there sassing the cameraman, who was not a voter.
    He was not banned from polling places so you’d better check your facts. They matter.
    I didn’t claim there was any voter intimidation in the case mentioned in the article so get your facts straight there to.

    Your statement that not even one voter complained about voter intimidation is patently false. Both Bartle Bull & Chris Hill not only filed complaints, but also testified under oath.

  • CosmosDan

    Ninja said:
    Your statement that not even one voter complained about voter intimidation is patently false. Both Bartle Bull & Chris Hill not only filed complaints, but also testified under oath.

    But they were not voters in that area so my statement is correct. Check your facts, details matter.

  • tatboy

    CosmosDan said:
    The video does show a guy with a nightstick but the fact is not even one voter complained about voter intimidation. The only thing the video shows is the guy standing there sassing the cameraman, who was not a voter.
    He was not banned from polling places so you’d better check your facts. They matter.

    I didn’t claim there was any voter intimidation in the case mentioned in the article so get your facts straight there to.

    Get your facts straight… he was banned form polling places till 2012.

  • whytee

    Alz said:
    You’re funny. The Democrats control all of the major cities – exactly the places with massive amounts of voter fraud and intimidation.

    It must be those militant small business owners!

    Thanks for the laugh, Azarkhan!

    I’m constantly amazed by the harmony of the mechanism by which big business-funded PR firms and the corporate media create just a simple line or two to repeat in your head that will allow you to entirely deny reality. But actual documented cases exist. They weren’t covered very widely in the press but a simple search of the Washington Post or AP or any other news outlet will uncover literally hundreds of incidents in which vote caging, polling places being limited in poor (i.e. presumably Democratic) districts, phone jamming, etc. were vigorously practiced by the right.

    The book I linked to (How to Rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative) was written by a man who was tried and convicted of election tampering. He actually spent time in prison for it. I strongly recommend this book to those of you who’ve bought the carefully crafted talking points that allow you to deny the reality of chronic election tampering by the GOP. Here’s the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/How-Rig-Election-Confessions-Republican/dp/1416552235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287596893&sr=8-1

  • Dandee

    Surely the people that are going to vote can tell the difference between all the lies coming from anyone who can butt in with them. The Liberals are starting to act as though they think they can just make up any old tale and we the people will believe it. There are too many smart people that know we must change seats in the Congress and put someone in them that will LISTEN to us and not close the door on our thoughts.

  • CosmosDan

    tatboy said:
    Get your facts straight… he was banned form polling places till 2012.

    Did you bother to check on that because you’re still wrong. I’ve actually done a little research on the case other than reading blogs. I recommend it. Once again, the details matter.

    The Black Panthers lost their case, not based on the evidence, but because they failed to show up and lost by default. Because of the lack of evidence of voter intimidation the case against two defendants were dropped, and the one mouthy jackass who carried the stick, got an injunction. That injunction was that he could not be near a polling place with anything like a weapon, not that he personally is barred. See the difference?

  • MLMC

    I bet if you checked into the people that filed these complaints, you will find that they are connected to ACORN or other similar socialist progressive group, including, but not limited to the Democrat Party. It doesn’t surprise me that there is no video of these events because they do not exist, just like the actions that were described when they passed the (No) Health Care bill (which is plain rationing) when Congress marched through the square did not exist. If anyone kept track of the 8/28 project in Washington, DC, you will find that no one did anything that would be described as “aggressive” or “bad” behavior. And you are talking about at least a million people or more – I rest my case!

  • BobHahn

    A reporter who is sure to draw comparisons with Dan “fake but accurate” Rather today filed a story consisting entirely of unsubstantiated allegations made by Democratic Party officials and members of a George Soros-funded front group. While the rhetorical tricks in this story are much more widespread than those in the infamous Dan Rather “expose,” no fake documents were employed in this case because there are no documents or proof of any kind whatsoever. It is literally the act of handing a media bullhorn to people who have every reason to be lying.

  • CosmosDan

    whytee said:
    The book I linked to (How to Rig an Election: Confessions of a Republican Operative) was written by a man who was tried and convicted of election tampering. He actually spent time in prison for it. I strongly recommend this book to those of you who’ve bought the carefully crafted talking points that allow you to deny the reality of chronic election tampering by the GOP. Here’s the amazon link: http://www.amazon.com/How-Rig-Election-Confessions-Republican/dp/1416552235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287596893&sr=8-1

    Wow. I read the forward and it’s pretty eye opening. It’s amazing how we’re willing to close our eyes to those willing to screw our elections so we can maintain the illusion.

  • cmm912

    PROOF – PROOF – PROOF!!!

  • whytee

    CosmosDan said:
    Wow. I read the forward and it’s pretty eye opening. It’s amazing how we’re willing to close our eyes to those willing to screw our elections so we can maintain the illusion.

    That’s what’s so amazing. It appears to be a team mentality, whereby if it’s one’s team doing it, it’s automatically OK no matter how bad it is, and if there’s even the flimsiest analogy on the “other team,” that justifies it even further and the argument is locked forever.

  • Seeing November From My Window

    Hey Tommy,
    You might want to consider a piece on the Ohio HS busing students to vote and giving them Ice cream. Oh did I mention the sample ballots they handed out for practice only contained the Dem candidates? As upset as this made you , you’d think that would really get you riled up.

  • CosmosDan

    whytee said:
    That’s what’s so amazing. It appears to be a team mentality, whereby if it’s one’s team doing it, it’s automatically OK no matter how bad it is, and if there’s even the flimsiest analogy on the “other team,” that justifies it even further and the argument is locked forever.

    Sadly I think there’s a mentality that develops in some politicians and those who work in politics that basic honesty just doesn’t matter at all. It’s winning and the game of politics. Somehow they justify the dishonesty and feel like average folks who give a dam about honesty just don’t get it, and don’t understand their real world, They can’t seem to understand the far reaching consequences or really care, until they get caught and begin to see they are not immune.

    I think that’s why the forward impressed me was his telling of getting caught, realizing that everyone he had worked with was willing to abandon him to cover their own ass, and coming face to face with his own pathological dishonesty.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thisisur-Conscience/100000016136639 Thisisur Conscience

    Tommy is a raving hypocrite. I happen to be a Houston voter that voted yesterday and happen to know for a FACT that the “voter intimidation” you are writing about is absolute garbage. It’s also a FACT that Sheila Jackson Lee was caught RED HANDED campaigning within the 100 feet of this same polling place and because she got caught, they started screaming and hurling the “racist!” lunacy that is now completely INEFFECTIVE. NO ONE IS LISTENING TO THEM. You say “RACIST!” and the rest of the world says “AND????” Who gives a rat’s behind – come up with something new, will ya? YOU ARE BORING US TO DEATH.

    I heard the woman in charge of the group of pole watchers say yesterday that the election fraud in Houston is rampant –AND IT IS ALL 100% COMING FROM THE LEFT–FACT.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thisisur-Conscience/100000016136639 Thisisur Conscience

    I also personally witness a Latino woman being read the ballot in Spanish. If you cannot read your OWN language, much less English, how can you be expected to vote with any intellect? These are the people voting for Dumbocrats.

  • http://none pyrope

    D REX said:
    OH YOU MEAN LIKE THE BIRTHERS ON FUX NEWS

    On the place of birth of Barack Hussein -0bama, the burden of proof is not on the so-called “birthers,” but on the current occupant of the White House. Now maybe you can provide proof of where -0bama was born, but until you cannot, your point is as moot as you are.

  • http://none pyrope

    Oh, and by the way, I am NOT a “birther” but one of many who have no idea where -0bama was born but, for the record, would like to. I’d also like to see his college transcripts.

  • CosmosDan

    Thisisur Conscience said:
    I also personally witness a Latino woman being read the ballot in Spanish. If you cannot read your OWN language, much less English, how can you be expected to vote with any intellect? These are the people voting for Dumbocrats.

    I understand the objection but maybe there are corruption issues that are a lot more serious than that

  • ggm

    From the Houxton CHronicle:
    No crimes found

    O’Rourke said the district attorney’s office had forwarded allegations by poll workers to his office. He said he had not yet found any of them worthy of criminal charges. He also said his office so far has decided not to take civil action in response to voter complaints that poll watchers are “hovering” over them as they try to vote and using cell phones inside polling locations.

    Sounds like a effort to create a story, rather than an actual story. I would think that both parties should have poll watchers present to reassure voters of the integrity of the election process.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    AnonymousFinch said:
    Yes, there were multiple reports. All filed on the first day. All involving conduct that is so innocuous that it is purely one person’s word against another (i.e., even a neutral witness to the conduct could not say for sure whether there was “hovering” going on). Don’t you smell a rat? Why is it so easy for some people to believe accusations of evil behavior (racism), but it never occurs to them that sometimes evil people make false accusations? Remember the Duke “rape” case? Bad people are willing to contrive false accusations in order to get what they want. The burden is on them to prove their accusations. The burden is not on anyone to disprove the accusations. And the burden certainly isn’t on Tea Party members to disprove their non-racists-intentions because of unsubstantiated accusations like this.

    Blacks = Guilty before trial.
    White Conservatives = Benefit of the doubt in all cases with clear, high definition digital video evidence before even questioning culpability.

    Gotcha, fellas.

    –Cobra

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    AnonymousFinch said:
    The NBPP just had night sticks. These guys were hovering. Everybody knows that hovering is “more effective.”

    Which group was INSIDE the various polling places?

    Well, there are multiple lawsuits. The court will decide this. Meanwhile, I encourage minority readers of this blog to invest in flip-video cameras, or phones with cameras. Even though the right wingers on this blog won’t BELIEVE ANY VIDEO that shows minorities being discriminated against, there are millions of REASONABLE Americans who will.

    –Cobra

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