Paging Michael Richards…

Paging Miley Cyrus…

Not a surprise. He is a dullard and a racist.

But, but, but, but he is a comedian and comedians can do this type of thing- ask Joy Behar!

Typical lib racist, homophobe, anti-Semite in one package.

Gays can take a joke but can blacks take a joke? Can you play “Barrack the Magic Negro” on the radio without people calling you racist? Can you make fun of Whiggers? Can Lisa Lampinelli degrade every minority without the PC nazis bitching? Can comedians start making mean jokes against Barrack Obama? Can cartoonists compare him to a monkey like they did with GWB?
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His career just ended last night.

Considering how brutalized black people have suffered in our society, it always surprises me how flippant, ignorant, and insensitive people like Tracy Morgan or Herman Cain are about something they know nothing about.. If a group of people tell you how much your put downs, judgments, assumptions and jokes are demeaning and hateful…might you show some compassion or at least consider putting yourself in another’s shoes?

It oesn’t surprise me that even Wanda Sykes said it easier to be black than it is to be gay, even today. If one isn’t black, one can never truly know what that is like, and if one isn’t gay, one canl never truly know what that means.

These black comedians should just stick to their anti-white routines. Nobody is allowed to get upset or criticize that.

b-dob said:
These black comedians should just stick to their anti-white routines.

Yeah, they need to get their white writers to really give it to whitey.

He should have just stuck with calling Palin a c*nt like Maher. Unlike the gays who took offense at an attack on their own, feminists wouldn’t have uttered a peep.

It’s safe to do that. Just don’t insult gays.

Ha. You may want to stop using the term “LGBT”. I’ve been told be a San Francisco Transsexual that I know that they now consider “LGBT” to be offensive, and that the correct term is now “LGBTQIA”.

I wish I was joking about this, but I’m not.

Kitsune said:
Ha. You may want to stop using the term “LGBT”. I’ve been told be a San Francisco Transsexual that I know that they now consider “LGBT” to be offensive, and that the correct term is now “LGBTQIA”. I wish I was joking about this, but I’m not.

….that should have been “BY a”, not “be a”

Kitsune said:
Ha. You may want to stop using the term “LGBT”. I’ve been told be a San Francisco Transsexual that I know that they now consider “LGBT” to be offensive, and that the correct term is now “LGBTQIA”.

I wish I was joking about this, but I’m not.

I know you’re not kidding; I’ve definitely heard this too.

At a certain point, though, it’s, like, “Wait. So you mean… everyone who isn’t a 0 on the Kinsey Scale?” That’s quite a large – and completely varied – group of people!

To be honest, I’m even hesitant to include “T” in LBQT because I agree with Chaz Bono’s take that being trans =/= being homosexual and that the concerns of and challenges facing trans individuals (or intersex or asexual people) are vastly different from those with which gay and bisexual men and women have to contend.

What I’m saying, basically, is this: It is impossible to make everyone content when it comes to terminology. So, when writing my posts, I try to describe a specific group as best I can without my meaning becoming buried under layers and layers of new and changing PC nomenclature. I can and will address an individual by any label that person chooses but, when it comes to groups, I usually make a single choice and stick to it unless I come across an incredibly compelling argument to change it.

Funny how liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague. If a Mormon had said it, you know they’d have a comment. The FACT that a majority of minorities are against gay marriage, seems to allude them because it doesn’t fit their template.

Alex Alvarez said:
I know you’re not kidding; I’ve definitely heard this too. At a certain point, though, it’s, like, “Wait. So you mean… everyone who isn’t a 0 on the Kinsey Scale?” That’s quite a large – and completely varied – group of people! To be honest, I’m even hesitant to include “T” in LBQT because I agree with Chaz Bono’s take that being trans =/= being homosexual and that the concerns of and challenges facing trans individuals (or intersex or asexual people) are vastly different from those with which gay and bisexual men and women have to contend. What I’m saying, basically, is this: It is impossible to make everyone content when it comes to terminology. So, when writing my posts, I try to describe a specific group as best I can without my meaning becoming buried under layers and layers of new and changing PC nomenclature. I can and will address an individual by any label that person chooses but, when it comes to groups, I usually make a single choice and stick to it unless I come across an incredibly compelling argument to change it.

For the most part, I think when it gets to _that_ point, it’s honestly gone a bit overboard. It’s crossed the line from ‘support’ into ‘identity politics’, drawing more people into a singular identity that don’t really fit there.

Sexuality/Gender issues, at least to me, are something that are deeply personal, and I agree with the statement that the issues that asexuals have aren’t even nearly the same as the issues that “LGBT” (or what have you) has, etc…

Funny how these folks didn’t mention that stabbing a child might be a bit more harsh than wishing your kid wasn’t gay.

Look, if you are gay, be gay, I support that…if you want to get married to your partner, I also support that…maybe consider calling it a civil union instead of marriage so you can avoid those pesky fights with those pious a-holes on the right…

…but please, for everyone’s sake…please stop being so goddamn sensitive…it’s comedy, and it has no limits.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Funny how liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague. If a Mormon had said it, you know they’d have a comment. The FACT that a majority of minorities are against gay marriage, seems to allude them because it doesn’t fit their template.

Sadly, if a Mormon had said it…they probably would have meant it. A very large number of closeted gay men and women live in torment because of the nature of the Mormon church….but then, which religion doesn’t have this issue?

You know what, I’m kind of tired of complaints about “Anti-Gay” issues.

How does anyone judge the contents of another person’s heart? How do you determine if someone hates without knowing what they feel in their heart, are love and hate not emotions that one feels?

If I say: I’m so hungry I could eat my neighbor’s babies, does that mean I hate children?

All this political correctness nonsense was all started by the Left decades ago, when they turned the “gay vote” into an electoral demographic that politicians,entertainers and even businessmen have to be extra sensitive about. All these did not exist 100 years ago.

By the way, I am Catholic, but I did not hear anyone complain when Jon Stewart made fun of the Holy Eucharist two days ago, by suggesting he could serve the blood from his injured hand to Catholics in church. Personally I think he would never dare to make such an insult to Islam or Mohamed the way he insulted such Jesus Christ and Christianity. I guess only a few people even noticed it towards the end of the Jon Stewart’s segment, if it was “Anti-Gay” it would make headlines.

Alex Alvarez said:
The incident brings up many questions about the nature of comedy and the difference between making a joke about homophobia (or racism or sexism or what-have-you), and making homophobic jokes and whether being given a platform to make people laugh (and, occasionally, think) runs the risk of allowing a performer to use what can be perceived by some as hate speech

How about the nature of Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert’s “comedy”? They are given a free pass to say anything they want about conservatives, smear them in any way and pass it off as comedy. While the rest of the MSM takes their message and reports it as news. These guys hide behind a cloak of comedy but spew lies and bile with zero consequence. Nothing like the liberal double standard huh?

Alex Alvarez said:
I know you’re not kidding; I’ve definitely heard this too.

At a certain point, though, it’s, like, “Wait. So you mean… everyone who isn’t a 0 on the Kinsey Scale?” That’s quite a large – and completely varied – group of people!

To be honest, I’m even hesitant to include “T” in LBQT because I agree with Chaz Bono’s take that being trans =/= being homosexual and that the concerns of and challenges facing trans individuals (or intersex or asexual people) are vastly different from those with which gay and bisexual men and women have to contend.

What I’m saying, basically, is this: It is impossible to make everyone content when it comes to terminology. So, when writing my posts, I try to describe a specific group as best I can without my meaning becoming buried under layers and layers of new and changing PC nomenclature. I can and will address an individual by any label that person chooses but, when it comes to groups, I usually make a single choice and stick to it unless I come across an incredibly compelling argument to change it.

Political correctness has become like a second level of the judiciary. Except the PC police are able to try and convict all at once. There is no presumption of innocence. It’s the modern equivalent of the witch hunts. It will be the undoing of this society

Wow. Where to begin.

First of all, there’s a difference between using gay stereotypes as harmless jokes and saying what Tracy Morgan did. Unless he was being satirical in portraying anti-gay people in America, what Morgan said was completely wrong. Even if it was satirical, it went way too far. I’ve always found him funny, and may still in the future, but I’ve lost a lot of respect for Tracy Morgan after this, especially considering this isn’t the first anti-gay rant he did.

Rivermont said:
Typical lib racist, homophobe, anti-Semite in one package.

Well, you got 1 out of 3 correct.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Funny how liberals are avoiding this thread like the plague. If a Mormon had said it, you know they’d have a comment. The FACT that a majority of minorities are against gay marriage, seems to allude them because it doesn’t fit their template.

How has this thread become a condemnation of liberals? What does liberals have to do with this? I don’t excuse Tracy Morgan for saying this any more than if a Mormon would have said it. If Jon Stewart would have said this, I would have an equal amount of condemnation toward him as well.

RowdyHoward said:
Look, if you are gay, be gay, I support that…if you want to get married to your partner, I also support that…maybe consider calling it a civil union instead of marriage so you can avoid those pesky fights with those pious a-holes on the right…
…but please, for everyone’s sake…please stop being so goddamn sensitive…it’s comedy, and it has no limits.

Again, using the gay stereotype that gays are into fashion or Madonna or whatever is one thing. Yes, it’s funny and harmless and no problem. If people take offense to those things, they are too sensitive. But what Morgan said was beyond insensitive.

hyenas said:
The black community has been pushing back on Hollywood and the liberal democrats’ (government and media up in DC and New York) strategy to emasculate the American man for decades and I’m glad to see Tracy and Cain push back against Obama’s love of the gays. In my opinion homosexuality is a sin. It’s an unnatural, sinful temptation that these people CHOOSE to give in to. It’s a shame that they succumb to such evil thoughts and feelings and Tracy’s exactly right: “If they can take a dick up the ass then they can take a joke.” It makes us all look bad at humans that we tolerate such behavior and in my opinion, Jesus is shaking his head right now. How can the devil fool a man into thinking it’s ok to have sex with another man. God gave us penises so that we can stick them in vaginas for the greatest pleasure possible for a human: an orgasm with a woman that you love that is blessed by the Lord.

Ahh, a satirical take on this story. A bit much, but I get your point.

brownsound said:
How about the nature of Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert’s “comedy”? They are given a free pass to say anything they want about conservatives, smear them in any way and pass it off as comedy.

I hear ya about Maher. His attacks on Palin and other conservatives are inappropriate and I never laugh when he says things like this. That said, how are Stewart and Colbert smearing conservatives? I guess I can see how conservatives might not like Colbert’s mockery, but Stewart? Have you seen him with other conservatives? He is respectful and gives them time to state their case and he respectfully disagrees. Many conservatives who visit his show mention how fair he is to them. Stewart doesn’t smear conservatives, he just highlights instances of their hypocrasy to comedic effect.

Fact: If Tracy Morgan has a job then everyone should be able to get a job that’s my take on it. I didn’t know that people actually listened to him too though?

Stooge says:

How has this thread become a condemnation of liberals? What does liberals have to do with this? I don’t excuse Tracy Morgan for saying this any more than if a Mormon would have said it. If Jon Stewart would have said this, I would have an equal amount of condemnation toward him as well.

My point was, you don’t see the liberals attacking him because he’s black. That’s just a fact. If he were a conservative, they’d be appalled, but they don’t seem to be in this case. HM.

LOGICandREASON said:
By the way, I am Catholic, but I did not hear anyone complain when Jon Stewart made fun of the Holy Eucharist two days ago, by suggesting he could serve the blood from his injured hand to Catholics in church. Personally I think he would never dare to make such an insult to Islam or Mohamed the way he insulted such Jesus Christ and Christianity. I guess only a few people even noticed it towards the end of the Jon Stewart’s segment, if it was “Anti-Gay” it would make headlines.

What rock have you been hiding under? The Catholic church is no longer a respected religion/church. Its now thought of as a harborer of pedeophiles. That’s why no one complained, why would they? Everyone is sick (literally in some cases) of hearing about the amount of child abuse involving Catholic Priests. And that child abuse has gone on for many many years without a soul helping the children that were brave enough to speak up. Half these creeps will never be charged, will never have to pay for their crimes against innocent children. They simply get moved to a different location to hush things up, or are quietly retired.

Disgusting is the word that comes to my mind when the Catholic church or religion is brought up.. You, they, can say what you wish, that everything is good, it would never happen to another child, but you’d never convince me of that. And I suspect, never convince a lot of other people.

I have two close friends, we’ve been buddies from grade school and up to our now mid age. Both of them Catholic, but now both former Catholics. They both avoid the Catholic church, attending it, or speaking of it, like the plague. That’s only two Catholics who’ve denounced their religion/church over this. Think of how many others that have done the same.

I’ve tried watching “30 Rock” several times and never got its appeal. Now I understand my distaste: this guy and Alec Baldwin are just too grotesque to be funny.

I’m ashamed that yall deleted my post. I now see that the moderators of Media-ite support the gay agenda over the Christian agenda. It was a poignant post that did not need your censorship. Respect the 1st amendment.

“The law is made not for the righteous, but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irrelgious, for those who kill their fathers or mother, for murders, for the sexually immoral, for THOSE PRACTICING HOMOSEXUALITY, for slave traders and liars and perjurers. And it is for whatever else that is contrary to the sound docrtine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God.” 1st Timothy 1:8-11. One thing that I found shockingly ironic is that the pro-gay group that complained was called Truth Wins Out. Well Truth does win out, and Truth is found in the Holy Book, not the sinful desires of a San Franciscan.

hyenas said:
I’m ashamed that yall deleted my post. I now see that the moderators of Media-ite support the gay agenda over the Christian agenda. It was a poignant post that did not need your censorship. Respect the 1st amendment.

Alas. 1st amendment doesn’t apply to everything. you know. Mediaite is well within their rights to censor whatever they want. You’re within your rights to not visit, as I’m sure many have and will continue to do since they instituted their censorship policy.

Just out of curiosity, who wrote the Bible and when was it written? Thanks.

A thought:

Note the rousing chorus of angry people shouting that he said something bad about gays.

Note that no one seems to care that he referred to his son as a “little n***er”.

Funny, ain’t it?

Are you Keith Olbermann? Haha quit overthinking it dude. The Bible has shaped the world we live in. I believe the passage I just quoted was written by a man named Timothy, who was at the time (around 100 AD) channelling the holy spirit. Pick an era in history since Constantine established the Holy Roman Empire, on to the Renaissance, the Middle Ages, the Protestant Reformation, the Revolutionary Era, the Civil War all for example, the Holy Bible was heeded as the way to live for all people, and there are no examples of homosexuality being practices, tolerated, or even discussed. The Bible said it was immoral and ungodly and the people of these eras understood that a man is meant to be with a woman to continue the species. Sure homoeroticism probably existed, but the people knew it was wrong to act on that sinful temptation. And you’re right about a corporation’s right to censor speech, I just wish the Bill of Rights extended to corporations as well as the US government.

Let me clarify: The Holy Bible was heeded as the way to live for all people in the Western World, which we still live in. The Koran also says that homosexuality is a sin I believe (I’ve never read it, but my that statement feels right in my gut, I hope someone will enlighten us if I’m wrong on that), so even the Crusades could be included in my Eras Without Homosexuality. I did not include the Dark Ages, because I equate darkness with evil and evil with homosexuality, so that era may have been pretty gay.

this is typical of hypocrites. comedians can say anything they want about religion, conservatives, palin, and say it’s ok because that’s what comedy is. as long as you don’t insult the progressive socialists you can say anything you want, just ask joy behar , john stewart or bill maher. but the progressive socialists come out of the wood work when you insult something they feel “passionate” about like homosexuals. like do you suppose there are other progressive socialists who don’t approve of homosexuality, but are just too afraid to come out of the closet with it.?? oh my goodness.

Is it ok to tell black jokes now? ;)

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hyenas said:
“The law is made not for the righteous, but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irrelgious, for those who kill their fathers or mother, for murders, for the sexually immoral, for THOSE PRACTICING HOMOSEXUALITY, for slave traders and liars and perjurers. And it is for whatever else that is contrary to the sound docrtine that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God.” 1st Timothy 1:8-11. One thing that I found shockingly ironic is that the pro-gay group that complained was called Truth Wins Out. Well Truth does win out, and Truth is found in the Holy Book, not the sinful desires of a San Franciscan.

Tsk.. You know.. There’s a well known rumor.. That those who argue, protest, dislike, hate, homosexuals/gays, and who talk about the sins of homosexuality so much, and so openly, are actually gay themselves. They just haven’t come to that realization yet.

As for the truth in your holy book. Apparently you’ve not been studying it much..

“He created all the people of the world from one man, Adam.” Acts 17:26

“Don’t forget to be kind to strangers, for some who have done this have entertained angels without realizing it.” Hebrews 13:2

“Never think of anyone as impure.” Acts 10:28

“Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For with the judgment you make you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.” Matthew 7:1-2

Kind of funny, I just read this item yesterday on AGC

19. BLIND GOSSIP 05/09
Don’t believe anything this funny actor says about his latest girlfriend. She’s just the latest in a long line of paid-for strippers that he tries to pass off as girlfriends. The only thing that sets her apart from previous girlfriends is that all of her body parts are real. And she plans on keeping them. Tracy Morgan

I like a lot of your quotes and I agree about “Judge not, lest ye be judged.” I grew up in a small town and was never exposed to actual gay people except on the TV and when I came to college it was shocking how tolerated these open gays were. It hurt my soul and caused me to question the trust that I put into this institution who has such different moral standards as my own and the values I was raised on at home and in the church. As far as saying that everyone who protests homosexual behavior is actually gay is ridiculous. My response is that the person who started that rumor was probably gay (satire, do you see how indefensible your “rumor” is?), definitely liberal, and wanted a way to try to shut up Christians from espousing the Bible’s view on homosexuality. I’ll let Chris Broussard, ESPN analyst, do the rest of the talking for me. I completely agree with his view on the sinful of homosexuality. Alot of people think they know better than God and it’s ruining our society. I pray for their souls and I don’t hate all gays as humans, I just strongly disagree with their lifeCHOICE. Here’s the link http://www.4forums.com/political/gay-rights-debates/9561-espn-magazine-writer-chris-broussards-comments.html

That’s also like saying that people who comment on the sinfulness of murder are actually closeted murderers.

hyenas said:
Alot of people think they know better than God and it’s ruining our society. I pray for their souls

I’d say from your post, you’ve just described yourself.

IMHO this Tracy Morgan anti gay diatribe isn’t about subjects being off limit in humor. This isn’t dealing with anything humouous. Its pure vitriolic hatred. I wonder how sincere Tracy Morgan was when he apologised. Speaking of apologies remember when Gilbert Gottfried apologized for his insensitive Japan Tsumani jokes. Where is his entertainment career. Maybe Tracy should of thought of what happened to Gottfried’s career. What if a racist skinhead starting telling jokes about n’ggers, k’kes, Ch’nks, sp’ks, or even Wasps for that matter. I purposely wrote racist skinheads. I was not being redundant. I know there are nonracist tolerant skinheads I know some of them personally.

Jayson said:
I’d say from your post, you’ve just described yourself.

Noted. I’m not a perfect person, and perhaps I should get off of my high horse. But I am passionate about my beliefs and whenever I read an artcile online about gays that is clearly pro-gay, I get a little irked and think “this is not objective journalism.” Sure Tracy Morgan drew criticism for his remarks, but by the discussion on this thread he also drew praise. Broussard make a great point that I’ll re-post: “Diversity is not just accepting alternatives to what has long been perceived as normal, but it’s accepting the significant number of people who hold to long-standing traditional beliefs as well.”

stoogedudes said:
Wow. Where to begin.

First of all, there’s a difference between using gay stereotypes as harmless jokes and saying what Tracy Morgan did. Unless he was being satirical in portraying anti-gay people in America, what Morgan said was completely wrong. Even if it was satirical, it went way too far. I’ve always found him funny, and may still in the future, but I’ve lost a lot of respect for Tracy Morgan after this, especially considering this isn’t the first anti-gay rant he did.

Well, you got 1 out of 3 correct.

How has this thread become a condemnation of liberals? What does liberals have to do with this? I don’t excuse Tracy Morgan for saying this any more than if a Mormon would have said it. If Jon Stewart would have said this, I would have an equal amount of condemnation toward him as well.

Again, using the gay stereotype that gays are into fashion or Madonna or whatever is one thing. Yes, it’s funny and harmless and no problem. If people take offense to those things, they are too sensitive. But what Morgan said was beyond insensitive.

Ahh, a satirical take on this story. A bit much, but I get your point.

I hear ya about Maher. His attacks on Palin and other conservatives are inappropriate and I never laugh when he says things like this. That said, how are Stewart and Colbert smearing conservatives? I guess I can see how conservatives might not like Colbert’s mockery, but Stewart? Have you seen him with other conservatives? He is respectful and gives them time to state their case and he respectfully disagrees. Many conservatives who visit his show mention how fair he is to them. Stewart doesn’t smear conservatives, he just highlights instances of their hypocrasy to comedic effect.

Oh please, come off it. He apologized get over it. I have many gay friends that would calling you funny names right now. Some folks are just too sensitive.

I am waiting for Anderson Cooper to weigh in on this since he was so outraged, going on and on about the stupid gay joke (I am being generous here) in “The Dilemma”. Maybe he should call for a boycott of “30 Rock”.

hyenas, it’s people like you that make me ashamed to call myself a Christian.

Are you gonna defend slavery (the bible does), and killing people who work on the Sabbath (the bible does)) and people who disrespect their parents (the bible does).

And the bible says that women should never teach men or even speak in church.

hyenas is a good name for you because I think of a laughing hyena. Actually, when I think of hyenas I think of a jackass.

Tina Fey, Alec Baldwin and Tracy Morgan each separately in an item at the same time? Mediaite Rocks!

He apologized? Well, then that solves everything. Tracy, you can now go back to spewing your hate.

Are you kidding me? In the quote I posted earlier from 1Timothy, it says that slave traders are to be couple with murderers, homosexuals and other sinners who need the law and the word of God. Killing people who work on the Sabbath? I remember reading that in Leviticus and applying that to real life. My dad said that my grandmother wouldn’t let him or his brothers do anything on Sunday except go to church, eat and watch the NASCAR race or football game depending on the time of year. Unfortunately, my father (self employed) works on Sunday a lot and has all my life. That’s his choice but I feel bad for him when my mom, sister and I get back on Sunday with that great feeling you get from going to church while he acts bitter or just like he needs a lift up from the Lord. But no, I don’t condone stoning my own father for working on the Sabbath (as I have had to when I was a bus boy, but that’s different because I would’ve been fired otherwise). And where in the Bible does it say kill people who disrespect their parents? Thou shalt honor thy father and mother I am familiar with but no where in the Bible does it condone vigilante justice.

Based on decades of research, clinical practice, and more than 450 authoritative references, homosexuality is not a “lifestyle.” Homosexuality and sexual behavior differences result from sexual center variations in the sex behavior center of the brain. Homosexuality, excepting adult onset caused by brain changes due to viruses, tumors, and injuries, are related to hormonal conditioning of the developing brain during fetal development. Homosexuals, when compared to heterosexuals, differ in hormonal differences and responses, uncontrollable reflexes, functional MRI readings, neuroanatomy, etc. Using thousands of subjects, Bell and Weinberg, social psychologists, state “Among both men and women in our study, there is a powerful link between gender nonconformity and the development or homosexuality.” . . . “At the moment, a large body of convincing research appears to suggest a biological foundation for homosexuality.” Same-sexed partnerships are known to exist in higher mammals and in many intelligent species. Over 450 species show same-sexed attraction and some life long bonding.

Using blind analysis, using modern psycho-physiological, neurophysiological, and hormonal response analysis and direct assay, homosexuals can be separated from heterosexuals with much greater accuracy than Hitler could separate Jews from Aryans. When it was done in Canada, the courts found it unconstitutional. At Auschwitz, homosexuals, along with Slavs, Gypsies, nuns and priests both Roman Catholic and Protestant, and other non-Jewish dead and alive, etc. were cremated in crematory #4 with a sign that read: “Juden Verboten.”

Heterosexuals significantly predominate as sex offenders, regardless of victim age, sex or gender. While there are a limited number of homosexual phebophiles (love of adolescents), those who are predatory towards other males at this age and above are almost exclusively heterosexual. In prison populations, based on percentage of their population in the community at large, homosexuals are significantly under-represented among child molesters and violent offenders..

Many who are negative to homosexuality are in no manner homophobes. Particularly during adolescence and early adult phases, homophobia presents itself mostly among those who fear their own homosexuality. Research shows many “heterosexuals” vehemently opposed to homosexuality, using scientific measures, respond the same as homosexuals. Physicians and psychologists tend to see these individuals as self-loathing homosexuals. Anti-homosexual religious zealots are either unfamiliar with or deny the voluminous scientific research on sexual orientation.

A “homosexual agenda” does not exist. Homosexuals are extremely diverse politically and many do not identify with the GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered) community or consider themselves homosexual. Being part of the GLTB is a social process necessary to help disenfranchised GLTB individuals express their opinions, helping reduce prejudice and discrimination in an anti-GLBT mileu. GLBT emphasize positive image and self-acceptance and are active in numerous charities.

The GLBT tend to rely on scientific studies that show other than sexual orientation, there are few differences between GLBTs and heterosexuals. The GLBT community appears to be advocating for issues like: same-sexed marriage, full citizens’ rights, hate crimes legislation and support for all GLBT persons. The GLBT community supports heterosexuals and appropriate sexual behavior between consenting adults regardless of sexuality.

While social process is involved in sexual expression, it does not determine sexual orientation. To avoid stigma, some become pseudo-heterosexuals. Religiously motivated conversion therapy has never been scientifically documented to change a persons natural underlying sexual orientation. Pseudo-heterosexuality is the objective of such therapies. Many unable to change are significantly depressed and suicidal. “Two of Exodus International’s founders, Michael Bussee and Garry Cooper, fell in love and left the organization in 1979.”

Sexual orientation should not form the basis for discrimination or inequality. It should remind us of God’s variant creation. Could homosexuality be a means of population control as suggested by Carl Jung? The opposition to GLBT persons is contrary to the compassionate and loving teachings of Jesus Christ (Mt 7.1-5).

Dr. Murphy is a retired Cal Poly psychologist, lectured at international universities, did medical research at the University of Washington, and was a consulting forensic psychologist for the State of California criminal justice system. He has presented authoritative scientific papers on sexual orientation internationally to professional organizations, the public, legislative officials, and the courts. For a scientific article with references, email murphy.phd@sbcglobal.net.

I always thought and still think that Morgan is a homosexual. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Jayson said:
What rock have you been hiding under? The Catholic church is no longer a respected religion/church. Its now thought of as a harborer of pedeophiles. That’s why no one complained, why would they? Everyone is sick (literally in some cases) of hearing about the amount of child abuse involving Catholic Priests. And that child abuse has gone on for many many years without a soul helping the children that were brave enough to speak up. Half these creeps will never be charged, will never have to pay for their crimes against innocent children. They simply get moved to a different location to hush things up, or are quietly retired.

Disgusting is the word that comes to my mind when the Catholic church or religion is brought up.. You, they, can say what you wish, that everything is good, it would never happen to another child, but you’d never convince me of that. And I suspect, never convince a lot of other people.

I have two close friends, we’ve been buddies from grade school and up to our now mid age. Both of them Catholic, but now both former Catholics. They both avoid the Catholic church, attending it, or speaking of it, like the plague. That’s only two Catholics who’ve denounced their religion/church over this. Think of how many others that have done the same.

First of all, FYI the Roman Catholic church is still the most respected religion/church in the world, perhaps you can name a more respected religion/church if you like to make an argument.I will be glad to hear.

People like you are able to criticize the Catholic church not only because you can, but because Catholics are by no means violent. But on the other hand you are very afraid to criticize Muslims unless you do it anonymously like leaving comments on the internet. You can actually take a microphone to Times Square in NY and Vatican in Rome, and say Catholics are evil and disgusting even without covering your face, and you will leave there peacefully without having to watch your back for the rest of your life. But I dare you to take the mic to the same venue in NY and Mecca in Saudi Arabia say the same about Muslims, obviously you will not have the guts to try it. Muslims are feared and Catholics are not.

Speaking of pedophiles/child abuse, if I stood in front of you and asked you to name 3 cases of pedophilia/child abuse committed in elementary schools, Boys Scout, Jehovah’s Witness, or in the Jewish community by Rabbis; I am almost certain you would likely not be able to name even a single one. You can remember only those committed by catholic priests because the media is always quick to jump on such stories that have to do with the Catholic church, while little or no emphasis is put on the other cases I mentioned above. Why do you think openly homosexual individuals have been officially prohibited from leadership positions in the Boy Scouts of America? The Boy Scouts has been accused of covering up decades of child abuse in order to protect the reputation of their organization, maybe you should go and Google: “perversion files” .

Pedophilia is not unique to the Catholic church, it is in virtually every organization that has to do with children, but the media puts emphasis on those that involve Catholics, and it makes people like you feel you are well informed about Pedophilia cases.

The American Association of University Women (AAUW) in their 2002 survey on 2,064 students in 8th through 11th grade, reported that 38% of the students were harassed by teachers or school employees. In a national survey conducted for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000 found that roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a public school employee between 1991 and 2000.

I wonder which religion or church your two “former Catholic” friends belong to now, maybe they can tell you about it. As I said you can tell me a more respected religion/faith if you know any. Mormons are made fun of and discriminated against, and the same happens to Jehovah’s witnesses.

http://100777.com/node/463

I dont care what he says, I am huge fan of his and will always be… you go Tracy

Hmm…I wonder if Anti-Christian jokes (Bill Maher) also will get this much rise from the media? Anyone?

hyenas said:
Are you kidding me? In the quote I posted earlier from 1Timothy, it says that slave traders are to be couple with murderers, homosexuals and other sinners who need the law and the word of God.

Like I said, you don’t seem to be studying the holy book much.

1 Timothy 6

Honor Masters

1 Let as many bondservants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and His doctrine may not be blasphemed. 2 And those who have believing masters, let them not despise them because they are brethren, but rather serve them because those who are benefited are believers and beloved. Teach and exhort these things.

Leviticus 25:44-46

44 And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. 45 Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property. 46 And you may take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them as a possession; they shall be your permanent slaves. But regarding your brethren, the children of Israel, you shall not rule over one another with rigor.

Exodus 21:2-6

2 If you buy a Hebrew servant, he shall serve six years; and in the seventh he shall go out free and pay nothing. 3 If he comes in by himself, he shall go out by himself; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4 If his master has given him a wife, and she has borne him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself. 5 But if the servant plainly says, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,’ 6 then his master shall bring him to the judges. He shall also bring him to the door, or to the doorpost, and his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him forever.

Exodus 21:7-11

7 “And if a man sells his daughter to be a female slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do. 8 If she does not please her master, who has betrothed her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, since he has dealt deceitfully with her. 9 And if he has betrothed her to his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. 10 If he takes another wife, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marriage rights. 11 And if he does not do these three for her, then she shall go out free, without paying money.

Cool you can copy and paste. People’s interpretations of the Bible will always be different. I am a member of the Christian Church Disciples of Christ. Our only creed is Christ. If you as an individual feel like you are living your life in a manner that would please Jesus, and you believe him to be the Son of God then you will hope in the face of fear and peace in your final hours. That is what I believe. It is not my right to judge anyone else, but I will not condone homosexual behavior as acceptable or tolerable. Even CBS News reported that gays are twice as like to have cancer as normal humans. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20061029-10391704.html Of course it was hushed up and underreported by the mainstream media but the fact is that it is a dangerous lifechoice and one that I believe is not to be encouraged to the children of this nation and the world.

Alex Alvarez said:
I know you’re not kidding; I’ve definitely heard this too. At a certain point, though, it’s, like, “Wait. So you mean… everyone who isn’t a 0 on the Kinsey Scale?” That’s quite a large – and completely varied – group of people! To be honest, I’m even hesitant to include “T” in LBQT because I agree with Chaz Bono’s take that being trans =/= being homosexual and that the concerns of and challenges facing trans individuals (or intersex or asexual people) are vastly different from those with which gay and bisexual men and women have to contend. What I’m saying, basically, is this: It is impossible to make everyone content when it comes to terminology. So, when writing my posts, I try to describe a specific group as best I can without my meaning becoming buried under layers and layers of new and changing PC nomenclature. I can and will address an individual by any label that person chooses but, when it comes to groups, I usually make a single choice and stick to it unless I come across an incredibly compelling argument to change it.

Jesus christ. To each their own when it comes to who you have sex or fall in love with, but don’t expect me to learn a new alphabet to make you feel accepted.

Nacho said:
I always thought and still think that Morgan is a homosexual. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

Maybe it’s you who’s a homosexual.

In Canada he would either be in Jail or facing a Human Rights tribunal right now, no kidding. You see, we brought you vice squads at Madonna concerts in the 80′s, So this clown can probably kiss any Canadian dates goodbye about now.

Heaven forbid Tracy has a indifferent opinion…that would be wrong… Wait no, that would be freedom of speech!

Jayson said:
Tsk.. You know.. There’s a well known rumor.. That those who argue, protest, dislike, hate, homosexuals/gays, and who talk about the sins of homosexuality so much, and so openly, are actually gay themselves. They just haven’t come to that realization yet.

Of course the same goes for homosexuals who are openly belligerent of religion right? They are actually all straight, right wing fundamentalists who secretly think the homosexual lifestyle is an abomination to God and Man…
Just quoting from your book of reason.
Honestly I think the Bible has more on you and is much more reasonable.

Cancon2 said:
In Canada he would either be in Jail or facing a Human Rights tribunal right now, no kidding. You see, we brought you vice squads at Madonna concerts in the 80’s, So this clown can probably kiss any Canadian dates goodbye about now.

He’ll likely get banned from Canada, but at least you have a conservative PM now… Hopefully freedom of speech and religion will follow.

hyenas said:
Tracy Morgan

Children should not be discouraged or encouraged to be gay. Children should be allowed to be themselves.
Living a lie gets you nowhere. look at Larry Craig and Ted Haggard. Maybe if gays are less healthy than straights it is a byproduct of being exposed to bigotry and hate since their first day on earth.

Eh, I approach this in two ways.

First he’s a comedian that has built a career off of being irreverent, erratic, and absurd. I wouldn’t be expecting a pinnacle of morality or good judgement there. I’m not saying that being the type of comedian he is leads to being a person that makes comments like this, but in heat of trying to entertain in front of a crowd, in which his peers (like probably most) make tongue in cheek comments regarding sexuality all the time, well I could see this happening while his heart isn’t truly behind what he’s saying.

Second, it’s Tracy Morgan. Him saying these things are not a “scandal” or even notably sensational.

Now ALL THAT said, it was certainly wrong of him and it’s cool that he apologized the way he did.