Funny , but you probably don’t want them handling food .

When I took this pic I had no idea it would spread like wildfire across the net. 

Fleabagggers don’t want jobs, they just want someone to keep buying stuff for them.  It is unlikely that any could handle the complicated tasks required in fast food service, maybe start them with cleaning up the disasters they leave from their temper tantrum/assualt fest rallies.

You think McDonalds really sells food? http://www.thereluctanteater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/004-mcrib-sans2.jpg 

A lot of us have jobs but it’s rather hard to survive when we make just enough to eat & share a place to sleep with roommates. I have not been to a doctor of any sort in years. Im healthy, but if I ever get really ill im in serious trouble probably. 

This story reminds me of this:

How Did Occupy D.C. Protesters Respond to a Table Full of Job Applications?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-video-occupy-d-c-protesters-brush-off-job-applications/

Hint, they weren’t very interested.

It’s clear to Me you lifted that pic from the film Aliens.:)

 Reminiscent of Marie Antionette saying “Let them eat cake.”  What a bunch of elitist assholes. 

The media trying to cover up for rampaging Occupy gang .

“Occupy Oakland vandals are not fringe ”

 ”…mainstream outlets also failed to report that the night before the general strike, the Occupy Oakland General Assembly adopted a resolution in support of occupying abandoned/foreclosed buildings. The major violence Wednesday night didn’t start until protesters started doing just that.”

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/occupy-oakland-vandals-are-not-fringe

I don’t beleive that the crowd of dirty fleabaggers running around downtown have any jobs,  No freaking way anyone hires scumbags who cannot shower and spend as much time as possible assaulting women and doing drugs.  I call BS.

Don’t tell Kitty Kat or she will scratch your eyes out!!

Didn’t they demand a minimum income of $20,000 annually whether one works or not?

One woman in the video scoffed at the idea of taking a job that only paid 10-15 per year.  A 10 per hour job is an annual salary of $20,800 and 15 per hour is $41,200 per annum.

It seems that what they really want is money earned by anyone but themselves.    Why work for a living when you can just laze around chanting slogans  and get paid for it.

Bloody hilarious!  Every day we get stories demonstrating the sheer contempt most American have for these lunatics.  What Occupy Chicago should have tweeted was a thanks to the good folks of the Chicago Merchantile Exchange for supplying these idiots with at least a couple days of toilet paper. 

Now they have something to wipe those down twinkles off with!

More like a bunch of lazy, uneducated, and unmotivated fleabaggers refusing to do any work but demanding to be cared for at all times. 

Welcome back, Grammie!!

I was listening to a small business owner the other day and she said she’s had several people turn down jobs because, in their words “I can make more money staying at home and collecting unemployment”.  It’s ridiculous.  You take the job and keep looking for a better one IF you really want to work. 

Thank you, Michelle.

I just got Netflix a month and a half ago and have been reveling in Masterpeice Theater and movies that I mssed all those years that I had so many demands on my time.  Besides I find current politics depressing.

Our country is at a cross road that will determine whether we regain our status  the greatest country in history that we have been or will continue down the path to self destruction that we have started upon.

Freakin’ great. Its too bad so many libs don’t get it. But that why the are libs.

They should be charged with littering.  

Hardly reminiscent of Marie Antionette.
That’s a legitimate job working at McDonald’s.
Working at McDonald’s shows you’er next prospective employer you are serious like a heart attack!

And this kind of stunt is one of the things OWS is protesting — the narcissistic, swaggering self-love that financial-types have dripping from their very pores.

LOL~!

That’s great!

Call these pampered parasites and anarchists out.

There’s no wonder the Wefare-Loving Democrats support these LEECHES (shout out to Melissa Perry), because that’s how Democrats stay in power – by keeping as many voters as they can dependent upon their taxpayer-funded WELFARE State, in it’s various incarnations!

Soooo, Occupy is just a simple little grass-roots group, yet they have a General Assembly? And I’m assuming they take donations, right? Why isn’t the IRS all over them? If they haven’t filed paperwork, aren’t they violating a whole bunch of tax laws?

In the meantime…1 in 15 live in extreme poverty, extreme. Congress does….nothing. A lot of stereotyping going on here. People want to work, they want jobs to support their families, they want health care and a roof over their family’s heads. What is wrong with all of you posting your hateful stereotypes? 

I realize it’s hard reading the real news in any depth when it’s so much easier simply parroting FOX talking points, but here’s a little update: the protesters aren’t socialist lefties looking for handouts, or railing against capitalism–they’re protesting white collar crime that’s devastated our economy and ruined the lives of millions. Important difference.

Have you even taken the time to see what these people have gone through? Many are college graduates and in debt from getting that education. The degree they recieved is completely useless because they cannot find work in that field and for them to settle with a minimum wage job that will leave them living below the poverty level seems rather ridiculous. I am a full time college student and work full time and I am still for the movement. Obviously referring to everyone as lazy and uneducated is pure ignorance on your part.

What hateful rhetoric are you referring ? 

On the other hand, maybe the good people who work at the exchange are tired of entering the building downwind from the skanks that are camping out on the sidewalks!

Just adding another theory to the mix.

You are so full of sh!t.  Useless degrees are what you idiots chose, no one made you study comparitive lit over computer science or math or something usefull.  You fleabaggers accept no responsibility for your own failures and then want working people to pay for your failure.  Not going to happen fleabagger.

Take a look at the educational agenda at Occupy Oakland fleabagger.  Communism 101, Anarchy for you, Nothing but communists, drug addicts and sex offenders at the Flea Party.  It has become obvious to all but the idiot hangers on like yourself.

The posts on here are truly disturbing and just show the lack of empathy most of you have. I truly hope you do not find your self in my position. I was recently laid off from a great paying job. I have 2 boys and I’m struggling to find another job. My income HAS to be at a certain wage because of my rent and car payment plus providing for my boys. My unemployment only covers rent and car. Not food, electricity or the cost of gas from driving my mother around who is 67 years old and has never fully recovered from a stroke. So in your educated (sarcastically said), opinion I should forgo my unemployment which is only 2000 a month and flip burgers for 7.50 an hour. This way my boys and I can be on the streets and you can insult us more with your bullying tactics. Get the F.O.H. And you call yourselves Christians? I guess you missed the part where the bible talks about loving your neighbor et al.

Too funny ….and Drea, protesting and acting like loons, will not help you find employment….
I guess sarcasm is lost on you .. Sorry about your situation, but OWS will not solve it.

Me: who borrowed the money? Perhaps the degree in social science was a waste..but blame that on the school for overcharging you, not everyone else. You made a choice, if it was a bad decision, don’t blame others

Nannaria, my comment was directed at the OWSers as represented by the video from Michelle and the above article.

BTW, what does “extreme poverty” represent in the US as opposed to “extreme poverty” in other than first world countries?

“Extreme poverty”  brings a picture to my mind of something that I don’t believe exists in this country other than perhaps self imposed due to mental illness.

I disagree. It got Americans truly talking and is showing exactly what the elite are. Selfish, ignorant,  heartless bullies. Attacking people when they are down instead of thinking outside the box to truly solve American problems.  Corporations should not be involved in elections period. We’re actually not blaming anyone, just calling out immoral and unethical.

What crime? Details please. You know, so we can send them to the proper authorities.

BS
Speak for yourself
I am referring to OWS and the caterwauling anarchists reaking violence in Denver, Oakland and other cities..you indeed ARE blaming others…knock off the usual tautologies and grow up

Sorry, Drea, but you are assuming that no one who disapproves of and oppose the OWSERS have eever had anything but enviable financial situations and living standards.

My husband grew up literally bare foot poor and quit school the day he turned 16 to support his widowed Mother.  For two years prior to that he had one full time after school job plus two part time jobs on week ends.  My husband was a wonderful hardworking man his entire life.

During our 40 year marriage we were at various times in every economic quintile, from the bottom to the top.  So please spare me your superior moral tone.  If you can’t afford your current rent either move or explore sharing with your Mother to the benefit of you both.

Whenever we had serious recessions in this country my Mama always said “If things get real bad we’ll just do like we did in the Great Recession.  Move together, pool incomes and make do with what we have  to survive.” 

If you are facing your personal Great Recession try anything and everything to hold on until the economy picks up other than demanding that everyone else take responsibility for you.  You do know that your Unemployment Benefit at $24,000 per year is hgiher even than what the OWSERS are demanding.

That being said I wish you luck in finding a good job.  The longest I was ever out of work during a severe recession was 18 months and it was very easy to get Temp work then.

It doesn’t make sense that they would have jobs.. at least not the ones who have camped out in the rape camps for a month +.

Their unemployment status is one thing about the loser mob that I don’t question.

Find 1600 Pennsylvania avenue and form a circle around it… Until you do, anything you say is moot, loser.

Your parents should of taught you…life is hard

Pablo…maybe you haven’t been keeping up with current events…

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/03/us/occupy-demonstrators/?hpt=us_c1

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/occupy-wall-street-protests-continue-after-violence-in-oakland/2011/10/31/gIQANgBDaM_story.html

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/ows-protester-arrested-at-mcdonalds-20111104-lgf

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057370/Occupy-Wall-Street-kitchen-worker-charged-sex-abuse-suspected-rape-protester.html

Well played, sir.

Stop whining
What is your degree in bullshitology?
Perhaps the center of your anger should be the
College that raped you with an exorbitant tuition
For a useless degree
Grow up and stop blaming the world for your choice
To take the loan… No one put s Glock to your
Head…

Move in with your mother and take care if her
Till you find work… And cool the superior attitude
I found out at 14 the world owes me nothing. I’m sorry but you have
Alternatives and you choose to be, well choosey.

God yes!

Who could have guessed that an advanced degree in Puppetry would be so worthless.

http://www.thenation.com/article/164348/audacity-occupy-wall-street

Why, it was just yesterday that a Masters in Puppetry was a sure fire road to success..

Ever thought of doing something for yourself besides whine?

If you care so much, why aren’t you protesting our governments insistence that these banks make irresponsible loans to irresponsible people which started this crap? Why are you not sitting in front of the white house barking and banging drums? Why aren’t you camping out on capitol hill banging your drums? Your government has sold you down the river and you don’t seem to be the least bit concerned. Your government bailed out wall street! Your misguided anger is focused on the wrong group of people. Blame freddie mac, fannie may, chris dodd and barney frank… but Nooooooo, you don’t want to do that because it won’t fit your narrative driven by a cave man mentality. I suggest you pick up your plastic drum, your flea infested tent and go park it on capitol hill.

Have you considered hopping a bus to North Dakota?  They’re paying high wages for all sorts of labor, and offering room and board on top of it.  Granted, you’d probably get your hands dirty…

Pablo’s talking about the white collar crime that ruined everyone’s life, CalFed.  Most of which seemed to be encouraged by the very government that Ray wants us to hand even more power and money to.

Along with your “extreme poverty PC, do you own an extreme poverty cell-phone”?!

you do realize the protesters weren’t the ones raping, right? that the rapes were committed by people walking by? 

Keep lying to yourself, we all know you fleabaggers are scum assualting women and hiding it.

So al jobs should pay LOTS of money? Where is that the case? When has their ever been a plce like that in the history of the world? David Lettermann said he thought teachers should get paid millions… who’s gonna pay for that?

I find it funny that those spineless cowards at the Board of Trade didn’t have courage to go down and hand out the applications in person!!

 ”It got Americans truly talking and is showing exactly what the elite are. Selfish, ignorant,  heartless bullies.”

Assuming all that, it helps unemployment… how?

People are in it for themselves. No doubt this will be of great interest to the world governments…of Hammurabi and Moses.

i wish Ross Perot would go to a OWA event and give out $100 bills to protesters that will ‘get down on all fours and bark like a dog’, just like the SNL skit.

Weird. I worked two jobs to get through college. Also chose to pursue mechanical engineering as a major. No problem finding a job.

…then shouldn’t you be protesting in front of the white house?

“Get the F.O.H. And you call yourselves Christians? I guess you missed
the part where the bible talks about loving your neighbor et al.”

You’re getting 2 grand a month in unemployment and you’re COMPLAINING? There are a lot more people in more dire straits than you. What, exactly is it that you think the “selfish elites” owe you, anyway?

You can describe OWS and your own take in
a lot of different ways, but begging for charity isn’t one of them.

Empathy, where has it gone?

 Take the time to see? I have a worthless degree and $20G in debt. Somehow, that hasn’t changed my focus from getting a job.

How, exactly, would I be helped in harassing some guys in a suits for trading stocks? If I was going to do that, I would get a gun and a ski mask and wouldn’t spend two months on it.

Corporations should not be involved in elections period.”
 - – - -

And neither should unions.

Every union employee has the opportunity to engage in the process – to donate, to work, to run – and to vote their own individual vote. That’s exactly the same opportunity to engage that I have as a union non-member. The union is nothing more than all of its members in a room, and its members are as fully empowered as anyone, so why should just getting into a room together result in huge political control?

Van, I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering, three internships under my belt, and am a certified EIT.  And guess what?  I can’t find work in my “useless degree”, and neither can many of my friends.  I’ve applied to countless jobs and had several interviews.  We don’t want a handout, we just want these people who wrecked our economy so that they could make a couple million to be punished for what they have done to us.  We want people to be more important than profit.  Please try to see something from somebody else’s point of view before making ignorant all-sweeping statements.

Yeah, the failed trust fund kids and advanced degree holders of something to do with cultural trivia would kick their asses!

Hard work and sacrifice, where did it go?

If they filled out those applications and worked their way up, eventually they might be able to let themselves into McDonald’s with a key instead of throwing a trashcan through the window.

How does a 15 dollar per hour job pay almost double a 10 dollar per hour job yearly?

I’m thinking there’s a reporter out there who had a deadline and no story, and so he “found” one.

Note how he carefully says – several times – that the traders dropped “several sheets of paper” on the Occupants.

Hmmm.  “Several” sheets.

Five? Eight?

What the lazy OWS socialist parasites don’t know is that their long suffering parents have just joyfully changed the locks.

“1 in 15 live in extreme poverty, extreme.”

My friend Inigo Montoya would like to talk to you about the meaning of the word “extreme.”

A difference that makes no difference is no difference,

Go cry emo kid.

Ah yes, the SODDI defense. You must have past Crim I at soem point.

I realize its hard to see the truth in any depth when its so much easier simply parroting socialism talking points……..Hey, Look at that.  Anyone can do it.  I would believe the part about not railing against capitalism, but I keep seeing people railing against capitalism.  Makes it tough to think they are not railing against capitalism. 

Your math is a bit off.  $15/hr is closer to 30,000/year.  I teach my economics kids an easy way to calculate value of wages.  Our rule is every fifty cents an hour is $1,000 a year.  .50  x 8 (hr. workday) = $4.00   x 5 (day workweek) = $20   x 50 (week work year, allowing for sick time, vacation, holidays etc) = $1,000

I came. So much win.

Like most liberals, you’re ignorant. She never said that.

The elitist assholes infest OWS ranks, not those working hard every day.

$15/hour is $31,200/year, not $41,200/year . . .

Grammie slipped a digit – see my post, above.

McOccupy McDonalds McNow!

Everyone who commented is truly entertaining. You act as if I’m attacking you. I’m talking about the elite billionaires. I know what hard work is. No one is complaining. I was defending what alot of you people call bottom feeders who had the bad luck of being laid off. That’s it. I have been working since I was 12 when my father would pay me to clean his dental lab. Speaking of whom, lost just about everything when the Stock Market went out. Then he lost his job. This was a man who worked his way up from SW Phila to the Main Line with a mortgage for a 600000.00 home. At 70 he is now struggling, trying to start a new dental lab and not getting anywhere because of the economy. So spare your contempt. Why does it seem like if you have an opposing view you just get insulted. Doesn’t anyone have an open mind anymore? Stop getting stuck in the right wing rhetoric and listen to the real people stories out there and not just one of your talking puppets spewing hate.

Hey Me? When I got out of high school I couldn’t afford to go to college and had to get a job; as a runner at the NY Commodity Exchange. I spent 12 years there, worked my way up and spent the last three years as Floor Operations Manager, where one of my tasks was BREAKING idiots with degrees from Wharton and the Ivy League from the ridiculous crap they “learned” in business classes taught by morons who couldn’t cut it in the real world.

Sod off, Swampy!

mmmmmm. McRib!

How comprehensive has your job search been looking for work? I mean, are you just looking in places within an easy commute, or are you looking at places where the jobs are? A friend of mine here on Staten Island just took a job in Maryland because that was where his skill set (IT/programming) was wanted. He spends Monday-Friday down there, then comes home weekends to work on the house he and his wife just bought. I told him that was pretty extreme, and he said “You do what you gotta do so you can pay the bills.” 

Hard to know which they thought was the bigger crime.  Having a piece of paper thrown at them, or having to touch a job application. 

http://goo.gl/g6i9p This is mechanically separated chicken. This is what Chicken McNuggets are made from (also slim jims, and you can find it in Campbell’s Chicken Soup). This stuff is disgusting.

As to the meat in their hamburgers. They mix all the meat together and take out just about everything and are left with something gray and tasteless they call meat. To add juicy flavor back they add an ingredient called urea. It’s a urine extract. Then they add in the red coloring to make it look like meat, though it still looks mostly gray.

By the way it’s all the mixing of the meat together which meant a few years ago a couple of tons of meat had been discarded when one they found one cow had been tainted. Ruined the entire batch.

These guys all made their money in the 70′s and 80′s and have shut out everyone else trying to get in. Since most of them would be hanging off a garbage truck if they weren’t there, they obviously don’t know history and what happens to the rich when they exploit people. Let them eat cake meets the guillotine.

Hard to know which they thought the bigger crime.  Having a piece of paper thrown at them, or having to touch a job application. 

Depro, I worked down there for five years. Those SOB’s have shut out everyone except inherited money from making a decent living. They’re basically uneducated loudmouth idiots who would be greeting at Walmart if they weren’t at the CME/CBOT.

They should also be protesting themselves, for over borrowing and not researching career prospects for their majors. Banks didn’t FORCE anyone to take out loans that they couldn’t afford to repay. If the borrowers don’t read the fine print and ask questions, or perhaps do a little research, then it’s no ones fault but their own. ANYONE has internet access these days, even the homeless through the public library systems in most towns. Instead of encouraging Jr. to seek a degree in things like Women’s studies, art history or whatever makes little Chad or Sophie feel good about themselves, perhaps mummy and daddy should have encouraged the kiddos to seek a career that they could make a living at. This way they could, you know, make a living and feed their love for art or early banjo history as a hobby. Lessons in critical thinking wouldn’t have been a bad thing either.

A teach-in?  What were they going to teach?  How to lay around in your Mom’s basement? 

Ray, 

What white collar crime are you referring to? The bank bailouts? That was the government. They even forced many healthy banks to take TARP money so there wouldn’t be a run on the bad ones. By the way, the banks paid that money back plus interest. Are you blaming Wall Street for the sub-prime bubble? Frannie Mae and Freddie Mac, government entities that Democrats love, originated 70% of the sub-prime loans. Why aren’t you protesting the White House and Democrats in Congress?  Oh that’s right…because you are tools for for Obama’s re-election. You’ll disappear after the elections, just like you guys gave up your war protests after Obama became responsible for them.

I see the Occupy Louisville movement across from where I work and I can’t tell the difference. Looks like a refuge camp to me.

And boy, is it good!

Oh, if only the left would do this the way the right thinks they ought to.

And your parents should HAVE taught you how to real and, therefore, spell.

“that the rapes were committed by people walking by?”…

You’re kidding, right?

You mean the protesters that occupy private property and deny its use to the owners and then trash the place while chasing off people they don’t like from space they don’t own? Those selfish, ignorant heartless bullies?

From an employer’s standpoint:  there are no people without profit.  If you don’t get that concept, then your education failed you.  Also, oh-by-the-way, employers really hate people unwilling to overcome obstacles because everything is somebody else’s fault.

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man.  Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded – here and there, now and then – are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people.  Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or as sometimes happens, is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as “bad luck”.
 
Robert Heinlein

I was in your position, probably longer than you have been in yours. I ended up moving for a new job and was damn glad to get it. It paid 60% of my old one but it was a job.

Are you willing to move?  If so, move to ND, we’ve got plenty of jobs here for people with your degree.  Just make sure you leave your leftist baggage behind, we don’t want any of that filth here.

Wouldn’t you rather work at McDonald’s than join a worldwide revolution working for a better quality of life for the 99% of the world’s population?

HLB,

 I hate to break it to, but your self-centered generation is not the first to graduate into a tough job market. Lots of college grades in the early 80′s had to settle for low paying jobs until the economy improved. Did it suck? Yes. Did they throw a temper tantrum and riot? No. They took the low paying entry-level jobs, sometimes not even in their field, and they worked their way up. If $10 an hour is what’s available then you take it until something better comes along. Crying in the park isn’t going to get you anywhere.

By the way, Wall Street didn’t do anything to you.  Politicians mucking up the markets by social engineering led to the sub-prime mess. Your liberal heroes in Congress believe just like you that “people are more important than profits”. They forced lenders to give mortgages to people who obviously had no way of repaying them, in the name of social justice. As a matter of fact, 70% of the sub-prime loans originated with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two quasi – government agencies liberals just love. I bet you and your unemployed friends voted for “change” in 2008. Well congratulation, perpetual 9% unemployment, is the change you brought.

Taught him how to REAL? Maybe your parents should have taught you to talk.

Depends on if you have an actual desire to WORK or not. 

And we should take news tips from someone who parrots MSDNC? And as to the protestors, no, they’re public union flunkies looking to protect artificially inflated wages and pensions on the back of taxpayers. And they should be protesting Democratic theft of national treasure via FannieMae and FreddieMac, through the efforts of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank.

Do you work?

As opposed to the narcissistic swaggering self-love of the OWS protesters who want other people’s money? Who want everyone else to pay off their student loans? Who want the goods (ipods, ipads, Izod, etc.) without actually having to work for it?

Mmm. Urea.

Welcome to hard look into the conservative heart.

The main problem with the Occupy protesters is that they want to be paid at the entry level what people with ten years of experience get paid without having to pay for anything to prove they can do just as well as the person who has been in the field for ten years.

All you heard about the last several years was kids with a bachelor’s degree wanting to start at a job for $60K per year. A person who does not feel like they should have to prove themselves in their career before expecting compensation at the level of an experienced person is either dreaming, selfish, or delusional – or maybe a mixture of the three.

Some of these people couldn’t handle the responsibility of working for McDonalds. Since most of the young haven’t been raised to work at a job where performance is expected to exceed the mediocre, they are not ready for a real job with a real paycheck.

It is not just the young that are this way though, some of their parents are the same way, and it is no big secret. These are the people who raised a lot of these dreamers who want to make $60K right out of school.

Real work requires drive to get things done, ambition to exceed average performance, dedication to be available to work whenever the job or employer needs them, ability to do the job as well as it can humanly be done, a personable nature to convey a sincere level of care that the customer’s needs are met, and many other things that you don’t learn in college.

If you want to improve your quality of life, work for it. No one is going to bestow a fortune on you because you will throw a tantrum for months, or because you think of yourself as a “good person” – you have to prove you deserve what you want in this life. Sorry if you find this too difficult to deal with, but that is the way things are in the real world.

The thing speaks for itself.

So damn what? Why did little Janie have to take $100,000 in loans to attend Brown or Bryn Mawr to get a teaching degree, when she could have lived with Mom and Dad and gotten the same degree at the local State U, with little to no loans? Same job, same pay, same degree. Why should we be stuck paying for her wants and bad decision?

You know, it is possible to find out, before saddling yourself with life-crippling loans, what your potential earnings will be in your chosen field? They’re called Guidance Counsellors. Every high school has them. But, no, little Janie or little Bobby has to go to the elite school, has to have the debt. What do you mean, stay out a year, work at McD’s and save your money for tuition? Why bother when you can get a loan?

Sorry, Me, but two of my four managed to make it through college without taking a single loan. We learned it the hard way, as our oldest DID make the mistake of taking out loans. Had to go the bankruptcy route, but he and his wife are doing fine, now, thank you.

You haven’t a clue what OWS is about.  Spend hours with them every day like I do then you can tell what they’re main problem is.  You’re just talking from right-wing talking points.  

Drea,

 Funny you omitted this part of the Bible;

“thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour’s.”

Also, how did your father lose everything in the stock market? Yes the Dow went down to 6000, but it has come back up quite a bit. So how did he lose everything? Also how did he lose his job? You said you cleaned HIS dental office when you were 12 years old. So how did he lose his job at HIS dental office? If his business went under, then why? If his business did go under then why is he trying to open up a new one? If he lost everything in the stock market, where is he getting the funds to open a new office?You want people to “listen to real people stories” so I’m listening, but your story has a lot of holes that need to be filled in.

Maybe the Tea-boogers would want to work a dead end low paying job.

Don’t put words in my mouth, Squiddy. I don’t want to see all the power and money handed back to the government, anymore than I want to see unlimited power handed over to the police–but that doesn’t mean I don’t see any value of either. (Ever been to a country with no effective government or law enforcement? I strongly suspect you haven’t.)

Talking points is your bag, polecat.

I am speaking the truth, garnered by over 30 years of hard work, which is something you and your poorly educated ilk know nothing about.

Hey Gramms study some documentaries.  Waiting for Superman is good one to start with.  Out Foxed is another good one.

N. they are not used to thinking for themselves.  They might try reading what Jesus  said about taking care of the poor and treating others as they wish to be treated.

Did you actually read the article you linked?  This quote stood out:

“The story has been amended to reflect that although mass produced chicken nuggets at large may contain mechanically separated chicken, McDonald’s famous McNuggets no longer do contain mechanically separated poultry as defined by the federal government.”

And what’s your issue with urea?  It’s a nice naturally produced organic compound.  So it can be extracted from urine – I can extract water from urine too.  Argue the facts.

Hang tight HLB, and don’t let the RWNJs who live on their own planet get you down.  

Classless, and beyond cruel.

Rather than write a whole new response to this common right-wing false accusation I’ll just post a response I wrote to a similar post directed at me the other day …..

Bla bla bla I just retired 1 month ago at age 66.  I started working at age 12.

You’re right that I didn’t make a lot of money but then I chose a profession of service rather than one to get “ahead” ….   I cared for the elderly, disabled and the dying. It’s not highly valued in our society, for sure, except by the people you care for and their families, that is.  Well worth it in my opinion, but probably not in yours. So be it.

Thanks for the insight into who you are too.  Much appreciated.  Do you have anything else you’d like to say to me?

Also, here is a wonderful article written by Russell Simmons today:

Occupy The New York Post By Russell Simmons
Read more: http://globalgrind.com/news/occupy-wall-street-new-york-post-russell-simmons#ixzz1cmSNEABs

I’ve been to several countries in Africa and met many people who would strenuously disagree with your feelings that “it’s rather hard to survive” no matter how little money you make in the U.S.  Perhaps if you share your approximate monthly income and city of residence we all could help you with a more “survivable” budget.

Most of Tea Partiers have jobs that pay well or own their own businesses.  Of course, most of them didn’t go into debt up to their eyeballs getting a degree in Wimmins Studies or Puppetry or Anthropology of the Upper Volga.

Looks like a savory mix of proteins, lipids, and carbohydrates to me – pretty sure that’s what nearly all food is made of.

If you read elsewhere in the NT, it also says that those who won’t work should not eat.

While progkitty approves and supports rape and sexual assault at flea party rallies.  What a sweetheart you are.

30 seconds of Google:

http://jobs-boeing.com/careers/mechanical-and-structural-engineering-jobs

Conservatives tend to attack viciously when you describe them honestly like that, fyi.

It’s “beyond cruel” to suggest that they get a job? But, yeah, it’s easier to demand just taking from the rich and giving to, well, them.

Well, there’s a coincidence: you probably don’t have a clue what capitalism is about. It’s not about businesses serving as employment agencies, and it’s not about the kind of mob violence and forced wealth redistribution which are common sentiments at these be-ins.

If they filled out those applications and worked their way up, eventually they might be able to let themselves in with a key instead of throwing a trashcan through the window.

Those of us who work and pay taxes empathize with others who work and pay taxes. Those who whine about how their liberal-arts degree isn’t getting them a cushy job… not so much. How ’bout you?

Says the poster who is too spineless to use his real name.

But given the multiple reports of violence against people and property, why on Earth should they? 

First off, if you could read you would know that I was not directing my comments toward you personally, but if the shoe fits, be my guest.

I don’t trust anything you write – your track record for telling the truth isn’t that reliable, and you parrot left wing propaganda like a volcano spews ash.

I also don’t put any credence in your URLs – Here’s a look at the links on that same page that show it is hardly a credible news source -

“Justin Bieber Slammed With A Paternity Suit! Call Maury (DETAILS)

Beyonce Puts The Sting On New York In Her Halloween Costume (PHOTOS)

Kim Kardashian No Longer Has A Ring On It (PHOTOS)

“Glee” Star Charice Pempengco’s Father Murdered! (DETAILS)

Cuz You Wanna Know: Details Of Kim Kardashian’s Prenup”

*****************************************

And you want me to trust this story to be accurate? The source is a gossip rag online. Please.

Is this what you learned in your education? You started working at age 12? What?!? Where in the USA did you get a real job at age 12? That violates child labor laws, and you are not old enough to have lived long enough ago to have worked at 12 when it was not illegal.

Don’t include when you did babysitting or household chores, that is part of growing up in a family and doesn’t count as working at a real paid job. Do you wonder why you are told you have zero credibility?

It was you who went back and forth with me on the OWS not wanting to report crimes against protesters to the police, wasn’t it? In most cities in the USA having knowledge of a crime and failing to report it is a violation of the law. You probably still don’t comprehend that, but it isn’t changing to meet your twisted version of reality.

Wrong on so many things it is impossible to keep track of it all – yes, that’s progressive_kitty. Eternally stuck on stupid, the archetypal epoxymoron.

I am going to looooooove your definition of “capitalism”

I know it is going to be a handful of wingnut talking points but I would loooove to see how and WHICH modern society represents YOUR idea of “capitalism”

Yeah, colored people, ew

And how, exactly, did the “elite billionaires” do this to you? Can you be specific?

And, yeah, $2,000 per month in unemployment? Really? 

Laugh at the OWS protestors having McDonald’s applications thrown on them

Job moved over seas for maximum corporate profit; apply at McDonalds

Like I’ve said to the other poster.  Spend all day for awhile with the OWS protesters then you have the right to tell me what they are about.  Until then you’re just talking from ignorance.

Michelle “I love BigDs” er, “I eat Big Macs from my window” has been rejected several times by McD’s because of her zeal on product quality.

This is possibly one of the most hate and bullshit filled posts I’ve had the displeasure of reading on this site.  I don’t know where to begin should I even attempt to dignify these remarks with much more of a response.  Rafael, you are seriously a piece of shit who hasn’t a clue as to what you are talking about.

Go pound some serious sand!

So who, exactly, forced them to go deep into hock for a “completely useless” degree? Aren’t they adults, able to make their own decisions? And why do other adults need to pay for their mistakes?

@yahoo-4YIRKAWS2VID7WAR5NDFAMKVHE:disqus doodaddio

First off, if you could read you would know that I was not directing my comments toward you personally

LOL  You’re telling me “if I could read”?  LOL again.  Guess i’ll just have to quote your own words back to you … since I do certainly know how to read and unlike you I’m not integrity challenged.  You said “I am speaking the truth, garnered by over 30 years of hard work, which is something you and your poorly educated ilk know nothing about.”  When You are responding to my post and you use the word you are directing that post specifically to me.  No matter how much you”d like to alter what you’ve said.Also I’ve trumped your 30 years of hard work with 54 years.  What say you?  Do you think that caring for the elderly, disabled and dying qualifies as hard work?  Would you qualify changing adult diapers as easy work?  How about using a Hoyer lift to help a paraplegic out of bed into a wheel chair?  How about when a bed-ridden person has diarrhea that covers them from their nipples to their knees and you need to clean them?  Easy?  Hard?  Lazy lefty?  What about helping people with Downs Syndrome find employment and give them training so they can continue to be productive members of society?  Good work?  Bad work?  Or just lefty lazy work?I didn’t read the rest of your post except where you showed yourself to be a worthless coward.  You have a lot of nerve to think you can lecture me about what hard work is.  You continue to speak from total ignorance.  WAKE THE HELL UP!  

McDonald’s applications ?

The Occupy thugs will just use them as rolling papers for their reefers , while they get hopped up before the next riot .

Give me a bucket of water, a brush, some soap, and a military recruiter, then watch these idiots disperse like cockroaches confronted with a can of Raid.

Many of them are veterans.

Kitty – Yeah, Russell Simmons definitely speaks for the 99% out there.  Maybe, just maybe if you get in cozy with him, he’ll let you take a dump on a real throne in his NJ house for sale!

Take a look at this assploding hypocrisy:

http://tinyurl.com/64mjlup

And we’re to take these Hollywood/Entertainer bastards seriously, right?

But you have a pc and the internets? How about a cell phone? Yeah you sure are an ascetic, living the life of Jesus.

That’s actually pretty funny.

Look prog kitty, another one of your fleabagger friends who is ok with rape and sexual assualt at flea parties because to speak out might damage the movement.  You people are a movement all right. 

horse shit, vets don’t assault women and hide it like you and your fleabagger buddies.

I loved that one leaflet they dropped that said they could teach our kids better than current teachers. Teach them what? How to get the best deal from an escort service? How not to get hosed on a coke deal? 

Like that Rand Paul supporter that assaulted that girl with the sign and stepped on her neck?

It’s homeless, drug addicts and drunk who come into the camps who are doing the assaulting.  Not the protesters.

VETERANS FOR OWS

http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=24385

Video of Boston PD attacking veterans at OWS protest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s3zFca5znU

Awesome

Wow, you drank all the Fox News Kool Aid.

Why I feel terrible for those poor guys who worked so hard just to make a few honest bucks on CDO’s and alt A mortgages.

And a lot of them are on Social Security and Medicare but hate government spending.  Face it, the Tea Partiers are old.  They are the ones who get all the government money.

HLB: Your greed is no different than that of anyone on Wall Street, with the exception that you lack the drive and initiative to actually satisfy it. You say you want people to be more important than profit, and yet all you seem to be interested in is making a profit – e.g. finding work for yourself.

As for the “countless interviews” you’ve been on, that’s a little confusing – after all, each interview is an opportunity to land a job. I’d have to say that if you’ve been on “countless” interviews without landing a single job, it sounds like you’re either to lazy to learn how to interview properly, or you’re too stupid to learn from your mistakes – it’s one of the two, because if you’ve been lucky enough to land interviews, and you’ve blown every single one, then it ain’t derivatives traders on Wall Street who are messing your life up, it’s you.

OWS is not anti capitalist and against private property, they are against the corporate oligarchy that taken over our government. The revolving door between wall street and the treasury and SEC is corrupt. The revoliving door between congress and lobbying firms is corrupt and destroying democracy.

But now the story about OWS is that Michel Moore is rich and fat, and that the peole who produce nothing and make money on speculating food futures are the righteous ones with their job applications from the sky. Could any of those people even live off the wages that McDolands pays? How much money is left after taxes for working 36 hours ( you know part time with no benefits) a week at a fast food job.

No.  Wrong.  The rapes, the drugs, the filth, the lost local jobs, the violent anarchists, and the loss of income for people that depend on port and retail sales in protest areas all are the sole possession of OWS. You own it.  It’s yours.  Apologize.

Agreed!  Nom nom nom!

You’re an idiot, and you don’t know what you’re talking about. People with all sorts of degrees aren’t able to find jobs, and slobs like you with a flaccid dick in one hand and the other on the flag are making this country a shit hole. Read a book hillibilly, and take your dipshittery back to the 1950s where it belongs.

It is nice to see the first signs of a Republican jobs plan.  Sadly,
there were a few that thought we Americans were capable of a more
meaningful divisions of society’s fruits.  If full employment were the
only social end, we could revert back to before the civil war.  I never heard much in the way of complaints from slaves about having something
to do.

And it was nice of some helpful rich idiot with some dollars to spare to
advertise their “not-getting-it” by Xeroxing a few McDonald’s
applications, and to share with us their vision of a greater and
better America.  I am still fortunately hearing some reports from the 1% that it
is not about everybody having some subsistence wage employment
available, but rather finding a fair distribution of our society’s
income (http://westandwiththe99percent.tumblr.com/).  The 99% percent
have not sent lobbyists to Congress to create a set of rules
specifically designed to favor them.  You see, Americans have always
congratulated the wealthy, as long as they did not cheat the poor to get
there.

You’re a good example of the problem we have with people today. You have two kids, and a sick mother, and yet you’re out here on the internet railing against Christians instead of taking care of your family. The next time you do get a “great paying job,” if ever, try learning from this experience – cut your costs, save money, and be ready for the storm instead of being blown out to sea.

If you’re making $2K a month and it only covers your rent and car – you need to get rid of the car, and move to a cheaper home. But, you are a great example of the problem we have with people in this country – $2K a month makes you rich in a lot of parts of this country, yet instead of counting your blessings, looking on the bright side, and figuring out how you can turn the situation around, you’re here on the internet railing about Christians. If I had two kids to take care of, I sure as hell wouldn’t be spending time on the internet.

Jesus never exhorted his followers to demand Caesar confiscate the wages of people who worked to redistribute to people who refuse to work.

Who cares about billionaires? Most of them are self-made, and create enormous industries on their way up to that point. You think Bill Gates should have to pay another dime in income tax? I think he, and everyone like him, has done far more than their fair share already, by creating massive industries that employ, and benefit, millions of people.

Ok, sure – there are a lot of privileged people who were born into wealth and spend their lives cheating and stealing from everyone around them in a crass attempt to gain even more wealth and power, but those are usually politicians – and, of course, the three wealthiest ones are lefties, so I really don’t think we’ll hear much from you about them, LOL.

@Hoth:twitter    I want to applaud both the foresight and character of North Dakota’s citizens to not participate in the debt crisis, and congratulate them on their resulting strong economy.  They and their communities deserve the comparably vibrant economies they are enjoying.

As for you kind sir or madam, you are required to leave the environs.  America has no place for bigots, political or otherwise.  We are hoping that you will enjoy your newly found freedoms in Somalia.

I’m pretty sure the world’s population will get along just fine without your intervention. After all, they’ve seen self-aggrandizing buffoons banging on bongos before – yes, they watched for a moment, but when they realized you weren’t actually going to help their village eradicate malaria, they kind of lost interest and will, no doubt, regard anything the the next wave of bongo-slapping, self-important, hippy doofuses has to say with a considerable amount of skepticism.

Some of us don’t need jobs.  But it is people like me that take care of your communities and children when you’re out doing whatever you do.  Your life would suck without people like me.  So when you’re busy with whatever it is you do in your little world, people like me have our hands dirty cleaning up communities, working with children, or the elderly, or in museums, or planning fundraisers, or yes, occupying cities to make the world a better place.  Be thankful we’re a one income family, and that’s enough. It gives me the opportunity to make a better world for you, since I doubt very much you’re doing anything around to make the world a better place.  Just your bottom line, that’s all.

You’re welcome.

Did you know we have a huge government? It’s not just the president that is responsible for this mess. Our local governments are responsible. Corporations that have offices all over the world are responsible.  To go to DC would be to ignore the problems in our own backyards.  Furthermore, this is how you can see it is truly an international movement.  Sure, Occupy Dubuque could hop on a plane and go to Wall Street, but then it would look like no one cares, except in NYC. That’s not true. All over America, people care.  That’s how we show our strength. We are EVERYWHERE.  

Not the ones I know.  Un- or underemployed, but they think that if they are just a little bit nicer to corporations, something will come their way.

You take the job and then lose the roof over your head, go hungry, be homeless, and then lose that job?  10k, 15k is not enough for anyone to live on.  Could you live on it? And where? 

And do you know how little unemployment is? It’s so low, the small business owner was either paying less than minimum wage, or didn’t offer a full time job.  Or she was lying to you.  I wonder which one it was? 

Then you don’t get out enough, Grammie. You don’t work in your community.  You don’t volunteer. You stay away, you ignore, you don’t know. I guess you should consider yourself lucky, but I’d consider you selfish if you haven’t noticed the extreme poverty in your own country.  

One, McDonalds is loathe to hire people who are overqualified.  Two, no one would take you seriously if you worked at one. Your resume would go to the bottom of the pile. Working at McDonalds is not a positive if you’re looking for a real job.  Wake up.

It tastes like torture!

So, they’ve figured out how to ensure their well-being.  Isn’t that what the protesters want? 

They’re just jealous because they’re not as capable.

This is not to say I like the incestuous relationship between the 0ministration and the “too big to fail” outfits.  But the protesters are not only not helping, their solution is to re-elect the same kleptocrats again.

I’m so glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read your comment. Too funny!

I’m pretty sure the world’s population will get along just fine without your intervention.

Really?  You’re sure the world’s population is doing that well huh?

“1 in 15 live in extreme poverty, extreme.”
 . . .

One in fifteen here in America? Or is that the world stat?

Unless it’s been updated, the UN considers someone to be in “extreme poverty” in the USA if they live on less than $1.25/day.  I’m thinking your number is incorrect (assuming you were talking about the USA.)

I was talking about the OWS protesters, and their leaders who are seen on many of the clips in the media. If you want to make it personal to you you, then so be it.

Tell me about hard when someone is firing an RPG at you and misses, but hits the person next to you and sprays him all over you. Tell me about hard when you live in a bunker that gets shelled almost every night for a year. Tell me about hard when you can hear the impacts of 12.7mm machine gun bullets on the outside of where you sleep, off and on, day and night for a year. Don’t give me that I worked for 54 years since I was 12 stuff. I volunteered for service during the Vietnam War, seen more ugly than you could possibly imagine, and worked in hospitals and ERs for ten years after my tour. One of those hospitals was Walter Reed, taking care of veterans who only had the use of half or one quarter of their body, had burns over 60 percent of their bodies, couldn’t see or hear or communicate because half of their face was gone.

I still take my father-in-law, an 87 year old WW II Navy vet to the VA for his appointments – he got blown out of an AA gun tub by a Japanese bomb dropped on his ship near the Philippines in 1944. The man has not been able to hear out of one ear since then, has less than 10% hearing in the other, has continual equilibrium problems, and he does not feel pain because of the concussion damage to his brain from being blown out of the gun tub and landing on the deck 15 feet below.

I don’t have time to listen to you try to glorify yourself with tales here for everyone to read, or when you try to twist my words to suit your feeble case in support of these protesters.

You think you know hard. Don’t even go there.

You are the one who speaks from ignorance. Like when you defended the organizers who wanted to silence the victims of crimes at the OWS protest camps so only their message gets out to the press. They were not interested in the least in the suffering of the victims, they just wanted to control the spin.

You wake the hell up, lady, you may be 66, but you don’t know what the hell you are talking about. Everything from you is one more anti conservative left wing talking point after another. I don’t care if you are or were a union worker, you do not have the power to tell me what to do or where to do it.

I saw a video where a group passed out applications for all sorts of employers.  The OWS refrain was, “I couldn’t feed my family on that.”  I wish I would have been there to point out that:

1. Yes, you could, if you bought basic low-cost foods.  You might not be able to eat out all the time and wear the same clothes and such, but you wouldn’t starve.  You could buy a lot of pasta, oatmeal, bread, eggs, milk, fruit, etc. on a low cost budget.  Oh, you don’t like to eat those all the time?  Tough.  The real “99%” (the poor of the world) would envy you.

2. They don’t finish the sentence: “I couldn’t feed my family on that . . . so I’m not going to work and I’m going to bully the government into forcing others to feed me whatever I like.”

You assume much and know little. OWS is a poorly organized bunch of spoiled children having a two month long tantrum about the fact that they are not lauded with rose petals and a wheel barrow full of cash as soon as they graduate from college. Oh, for shame they should have to work and build a reputation for personal integrity and hard work before they can buy a house or that BMW.

Nice commie inspired avatar, by the way. Perfect for a unionist like you. Organize the Proletariat! Down with the bourgeoisie! Eat the rich! Kill the old people so we can take their stuff! Yeah!

I think I am ready to join you on Wall Street now.

Meh, it takes 2 guys at most to chuck a case worth of print outs, so numerically it doesn’t mean anything. I don’t think the Chicago Board of Trade are pro McDonalds or pro 1% based on this incident. 

 I’m a retired Army vet, and the “vets” protesting were probably losers that were kicked out, liars or just plain idiots.

My wife worked at the CME for 3-4 years. Started as a receptionist, did a good job and was steadily promoted to greater pay and more interesting work. She was seriously NOT from inherited money, and her parent (note the singular) was both alive, poor and NOT from Chicago.

She couldn’t afford a new Mercedes at the time, but she was making the sort of living that allowed us to live in a safe neighborhood, and make serious inroads into my student loans.

So frankly you’re a lying sack of shit.

The military is a pretty big tent, there are plenty of losers that I’ve met in my twenty two years of service.

Oh Hell No! Keep your lazy hippys, we don’t want them. The people that want to work are getting to North Dakota on their own.

Mexican citizenship applications would have been more helpful.

I’m talking about being a trader not some clerk. Get it? 

Michael Lee from Chicago!!

Van, you need to change TV news channels and watch something else other than Fox News.

Where is your proof? Being a veteran and knowing hundreds of them personally, I doubt you can quantify “many”. Just because some guy is wearing a field jacket in a crowd does not make him a veteran.

I don’t think you will see many VFW, American Legion, VVA, or Iraq and Afghanistan vets hanging out with these people.

Aren’t you cute! A toy communist. Why don’t you go find a village full of old women, old men and small children to massacre like the real communists did that I saw in Vietnam?

No, on second thought you probably don’t have the stones to eviscerate an eight year old boy like the one I saw in country.

You are a despicable low life for glorifying what you do with your commie avatar.

Don’t pay too much attention to the polecat – she is another union commie from SEIU. Nice commie avatar and all. Her credibility is zilch, and if you call her on it she gets real bent out of shape.

Welcome home, bro.

You dont know a DAMN thing about the world in which you live.You shoud get out more.
One of My co workers at the commercial bakery I work at(when not on call) was hired from WENDY’S,he’s one of our mechanics,he’s 49!
He was a mechanic for the City of Benicia! laid off in 08 or 09.
One of my wife’s best friends was working at  McDonalds in Castro Valley.She was secretary working for Johnson Controls in Livermor , she was laid of in 2010. Now from McDonalds to Georgia Pacific, hired earlier this year.
It’s ok to talk to the little people at McDonalds you might learn something.

Of course they’re losers.  What else would you say? I’ve never seen minds with so many escape hatches as those from the right.

It must feel really bad to spend so much of your life hating people.

In fact I live on slightly less than 15K a year in Hillsborough County, FL.

My home is paid for but I have a 5K real estate tax bill each year.

BTW, I don’t live up to my total income but try to spend at least $100, and more usually, less per month than I take in.    I don’t consider myself poverty stricken although I do have to be careful.

Sorry, Ann, but 14K a year allows me to live comfortably if not extravagantly and there is room in my living standard to cut back if I had to.  You’re crying to the wrong person.

Thanks, Bob.

You would know that I was in accounting but I’m out of practice these days, BLUSH. ;)

@yahoo-4YIRKAWS2VID7WAR5NDFAMKVHE:disqus doodaddio

You’re such a small cowardly man.  Thanks for letting us all get good look.  I didn’t bother to read your very long windy post. 

Or you can kill them with artillery from 9 miles away, or bomb them from 20,000 Ft, or force them off the land in to concentration camps, oh sorry “strategic hamlets” to create free fire zones, or spray them with toxic chemicals, or have death squads like the phoenix program. Did you see that in “Nam”

You know who had the real stones, the Vietnamese who and lived in the jungle carried all their ammo on their backs and took that causalities to kick out foreign armies from their country. Are you proud of what you did here? did you accomplish anything?

If the government would return my payroll taxesthat I’ve paid in, I would be happy to opt out of social security and medicare when or if I retire. They can even keep the employer’s contribution, even though a significant part of that would have been in my paycheck if they didn’t have to fork it over to the IRS. But to say that people who have had no choice but to pay into the system for their entire working life shouldn’t recoup some of that money when they retire is utter bullshit. Also, the government can’t keep spending more than it takes in. What kind of fool doesn’t get that?

Of course you were neither attacking nor complaining.  Did you forget thathi, the first two sentences of your comment:

“The posts on here are truly disturbing and just show the lack of empathy
most of you have. I truly hope you do not find your self in my
position.”

I’ve been in your position and even worse during a time of serious illness.

I bet most people have been up and down and for younger folk they will change several times before they reach my age.

Quit worrying about who has more than you have and spend that energy getting out of the hole you’re in now.

Fact: Don’t worry libs modern medicine will someday cure your malfunctions!!!! Jobs aren’t evil as you all think!!!!!

The 1% ers don’t give a second thought to the OWS gangs. The “protesters” haven’t affected them in the slightest. This was an aberration that a couple of bored ones decided to bring some humor to their day.

Unions should not be involved in elections, period. You left out that part.

Great point, Neil.

I have an adequate yet small income and manage to save.  One big way is cooking as I did when I had hungry kids to feed.  Beans and rice, pasta, stews (with lots of vegetables, regular grits and oatmeal etc.

I can’t tell you how often I’ve seen women with children using food stamps buying instant grits and oatmeal in single serving packages or single serving Hot Coco packages when you can make a huge container of it with powdered milk, Nestle Quick and a few other ingredients for a small fraction of the cost and better tasting.  People seem to have lost the drive to do things more economically if it takes time and effort.

Is this like your boycott of Frances Martel?

You really are a toy commie aren’t you? The NVA had artillery too, and we got our share of that, but you wouldn’t know a damned thing about that would you?

The defoliant spraying was not as widespread as you think it was, and your knowledge of the real time on the ground stuff that went on there is straight from Oliver Stone isn’t it? You don’t know a damned thing about the war because you were not born yet, and it is apparent your have had your indoctrination.

Do you know anything about that war, or are you spouting off with a bunch of stuff to sound like a real expert?

The main use of bombing in Vietnam was on the NVA supply line known as the Ho Chi Minh trail. No large bombing missions were undertaken on targets that were not military in nature, but with free fall bombs there will always be some unintended deaths. It was a war, and when the combatants are located near civilian occupied areas, unless your side evacuated them they were bound to be in trouble.

You brought up Phoenix, so here you go – enjoy reading how wrong you are and an explanation of how you and your communist sympathizing friends spin this into some sort of evil program:

The Phoenix Program (Vietnamese: Chiến dịch Phụng Hoàng, a word related to fenghuang, the Chinese phoenix) was a controversial counterinsurgency program designed, coordinated, and executed by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), United States special operations forces, and the Republic of Vietnam’s (South Vietnam) security apparatus during the Vietnam War that operated between 1967 and 1972.[1]

The Program was designed to identify the Viet Cong Infrastructure (VCI) supporting the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam (NLF), more commonly referred to as the Vietcong (VC) and neutralize it through capture, coercion or killing its members. Phoenix Program operation were carried out by the South Vietnam’s National Police, National Police Field Force, Special Police Branch, U.S. and Vietnamese conventional armed forces; and by what became known as the Provincial Reconnaissance Units, or PRU’s.[1][2] In later years, US Army intelligence Phoenix advisors were trained at the Ft. Bragg Institute for Military Assistance and assigned throughout Vietnam. By 1972, Phoenix operatives had neutralized 81,740 suspected NLF supporters, of whom 26,369 were killed.[1]

Results of the program’s effectiveness remain debated to this day however it is generally viewed by both US Military and former North Vietnamese officials as being the most productive counterinsurgency operation of the conflict and dealt a serious blow to the Viet Cong and the VCI.[2][3] The Phoenix Program was widely criticized by opponents of the conflict who called it little more than an “assassination program” utilizing “indiscriminate brutality” and a violation of international law. Much of the critical characterization arose from the classified nature of the program coupled with anecdotal, unsubstantiated, or false information relayed to the media and critical scholars about Phoenix.

The last part of that article applies to your failed attempt and revising history.

I never said the NVA or VC were not effective combatants, but you trying to portray them as some kind of avenging force is not an accurate representation of what the war was like on the ground. They were invading the south and it was against the south’s will to be under the control of the north. Vietnam was a lot of things, but it was not an idyllic place where the water buffalo trod the rice paddies and there was peace and harmony in the areas between hanoi and saigon as you seem to suggest.

What did I accomplish? I monitored radio traffic on the Ho Chi Minh trail, from Phu Bai, and I accomplished my mission and came home without a scratch.

Are you proud of what you have done here? Did you accomplish anything besides making a jackass of yourself?

You failed and you know it.

My name is not William, so I have no idea who you are talking to, but OK, you can stop replying to me any time you want, but that does not mean that I am bound to that same standard.

I am sure that you will still be here spouting off with the same left wing unionist stuff. So I will be watching…

There was no shred of honesty in your comment or Ilene’s. You wouldn’t recognize honesty if it slapped you in the face.

Wow, you managed to say nothing and still appear to be a jerk. Congratulations on achieving a feat few before you have accomplished.

You must be making this crap up on the fly. Anyone can compose a paragraph of pseudo intellectual drivel and attribute it to someone well known, but doing that without one shred of documentation is a real amazing thing. All this from a guy who has made two comments in seven months and that is the total of your Disqus profile… seems mighty suspect.

Do we take your word that Heinlein said this? I won’t.

Dropping job applications on protesters is funny – particularly applications for the quintessential low paying, low-dignity. shitty product type of joint like McD’s – Its funny too, because McD’s really has been marketing to black people a lot lately and there is a humour that treads near racism is cool for rich white guys – although I doubt they really though that in depth about the joke – after all the funniest thing is to tell some one who is protesting to get a job, it really shows them who is the smart one! Hey ruling class keep up the good jokes!

We think if they had any sense they would abandon this stupidity before more people have to suffer for the sake of this tantrum. Maybe they could all go home to mommy’s house and hold their breath until she makes them cookies too.

And don’t forget the McFries.

Would you like a Hot Apple Pie with that?

Why? Did you lose it?

Ignore him – he is a paid troll from Media Matters.

DNFTT

COME ON DOWN! You’re the next contestant on The Lice Don’t Bite!

“The
liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of
private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic
state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism – ownership of government
by an individual, by a group,”    
 Franklin D. Roosevelt
Like fascism much? 

Socialism = the new fear now that Communism doesn’t seem to work so well in controlling the people.

We don’t have true capitalism…do a little research.

Go fnck yourself! You really think thats funny?!?!?! You REALLY think there is nothing wrong with multi-national corprations controlling the government? Are you fncking blind, or just so stupid that you are fooled by the corporate propaganda machines? Un-fncking believable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 You’re wrong about being able to go to a state school and having little to no student loans. I went to a state school. I worked 2 sometimes 3 jobs to pay for college. I also studies hard to get grants and scholarships. I still had over 30k in student loan debt. That was almost 10 years ago. Tuition has almost doubled since I went to school, while wages have stayed the same or declined.

“I wish you and yours a wonderful life.”

No you don’t. You have been arguing with me all week over this OWS garbage. You don’t even have the integrity to tell the truth about this.

Even folks with practical degrees are having trouble finding work

Go fnck yourself! You really think thats funny?!?!?! You REALLY think there is nothing wrong with multi-national corprations controlling the government? Are you fncking blind, or just so stupid that you are fooled by the corporate propaganda machines? Un-fncking believable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     

Go fnck yourself! You really think thats funny?!?!?! You REALLY think there is nothing wrong with multi-national corprations controlling the government? Are you fncking blind, or just so stupid that you are fooled by the corporate propaganda machines? Un-fncking believable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!     

They sure don’t get it do they?  Screw the commodities traders who bankrupt and starve the world!

So… what you are basically saying is… you want us to recognize that EVERYTHING around us is produced by people who work. doing jobs that make the world go round.  Meanwhile, you want us to stop being part of that system so we can all be jobless and live off of our parents and the government dole?

By the way… you didn’t by chance post your comment from a device manufactured by one of those multi-national corporations, did you?  Tsk, Tsk, Tsk…

stop your ranting and raving… get your meds and try to be calm and collected…big government and big business have been in bed with each other for the longest time… it is the fundamental relationship that created american “welfare state” post ww2… all the money that you need to build your socialist wet dreams comes from multi national/big company employees only – you live in a country where 47 percent pays zero federal income tax – who do you think actually funds the federal government excesses ? that would be the top 10 percent of income tax bracket who pay roughly 80 percent of all federal income taxes…. think about that for a minute.

when big businesses are proving the money to fund your leviathan government that can stay afloat while collecting zero dollars from half the population, they do expect something in return… all wall street fat cats are big time liberals as they have to work and live in a highly liberal city that regularly sends 2 democrat senators… one of whom is almost always in the banking and financial committee in the senate.. and yes they are bought and paid for by wall street.

if you want to end this system, you will have to end the democrat party that pays lip service to the “common man” while all the time it is in bed with the greedy man… but then again you will not get a more lefty/socialist party like the democrats… so enjoy being a totally clueless sucker as long as you can

I’m more the McFlurry type.

With a name like Marxistshane, what ever you are for I am against just on principle.

 i used to work in a firm that was in the chicago board of trade building – those guys are real hard workers and they have no time for these useless unwashed hippies “protesting”…. trust me, you cannot get these useless libtards to do any kind of work… they all  range from being totally naive and unemployed to being total scum and unemployed…. on the whole a total bunch of losers.

the entire ows movement is nothing less than a sick joke one true working people…  america is soooooo fubared to have these unwashed hippies as the citizens on which it’s future depends

well aren’t you just a self-righteous twat…

you could sell your ugly kids for medical experiments…

1pctr,
         Dont ever think you can shame these liberals by exposing their hypocrisy…. hypocrisy is the very virtue on which modern day welfare liberalism is built… in fact they proudly wear it as a badge of honor !

how else do you think limousine liberals can exist ? Micheal Moore the big fat socialist weasel was asked in Denver as to why/how he is supporting the so called 99 % when he himself is clearly and self admittedly a part of the 1% – he is estimated to be worth 50 million dollars – he got all angry and annoyed and never admitted to how really wealthy he was… and he got into his waiting SUV with two security guards and drove away….

 wait, is he not driving in a SUV that is created by the evil greedy corporations that he rants about all the time and that destroy the planet’s environment ? Well… its a hard life being a liberal hypocrite.

You are merely justifying the behavior of people who couldn’t care less about you, me or anyone other than themselves and would sell us, indeed have sold us, all into slavery. As if my using a device produced by these corporations somehow makes it ok that they ship jobs over seas in order to support a failing system. The system you embrace is doomed to fail in due time as markets demand ever increasing profit each quarter, whichg is simply impossible. Right now they are on the very brink as most labor is slave based wages, and since there are no more corners to cut….where will the profit margin come from…huh? You smart asses will be left out in the cold, and PLEASE remember you blog posts when you are fighting for the last crumb or bread! I live in a rural community which is family based and people here care for each other, grow our own food, and are planning for the collapse of the empire. I will be fine when the grid goes down, and all the electronic toys lose all meaning and function….where will YOU be, fools?????

You really don’t have a clue what a worldwide revolution means do you? Your cavalier use of that term is pretty telling about your level of understanding. There are enough enraged emotions on both sides to cause some real bloodshed here, and you keep promoting it as if it is like going to be a weekend at the beach with smores.

I can’t believe you would advocate for revolution, but since you spent the better part of two days advocating the silence of rape and assault victims at OWS, maybe it isn’t that difficult to see why you have this attitude.

You are certifiably insane.

You are a fool……you are supporting the very people who are selling you into slavery! Just like one of the toadies who snitch on and betray your peers, one day you will wake up to see how you have been used by the masters! So, just because M. Moore made money on exsposing some of the evils of the corporate wolrd, that means all he said was false?!?! How stupid are you exactly? What are the reasons you support you corporate task masters? Please, enlighten us. How has it benifitted America to ship all our jobs overseas? ANY IDEAS ON THAT????

Did I say EVERYTHING that is produced is wrong???? Did I say there is no benifit to production or wealth???? Is my using a device manufactured by a multi national corporation in any way stating that its ok to ship all our jobs overseas in pursuit of profits???? You reasoning is deeply flawed, but then it usually is for people like you……you know, the ones who are toadies for the slave masters….the ones who would snitch on there brothers to ther overseers so they can get a little extra food. enjoy your slavery, fool

Hey dano…..it was the dirivitives, you know, the fraudulent motgage bundles falsely and illegally rated as AAA and sold as a scam that destroyed our economy! Out of the 20 TRILLION dollars lost in 2008, only 2 trillion was attributed to Freddie and Fannie loans……do some fncking research, smart guy!

Yeah….I didn’t think you’d have a reply……waiting for fox news to “inform” you? Enjoy your slavery

Yeah…..brilliant…..NOT! an informed, enlightened society is one that moves FORWARD…….NOT backwards. We already tried the “every man for himself” society….remember? You know, when children worked in sweat shops and mines, and people begged on the streets? Watch as we march back into the dark ages, you ignorant fools

What do you want, a medal or something? Not everyone who has gotten a degree is employable. There are no guarantees, but some people think you get out of college and the world is laid before you by the gods. That isn’t going to happen, so stop expecting life to suddenly be fair or better because you have spent time, effort and money on getting an education.

Everyone who has been where you are before has had to start at the bottom, and work their way up. I don’t care what your academic advisers told you, it takes hard work and dedication for a long time to build a career. There are no freebies, no gimmes, no discounts, no free anything – we all had to work hard and so will you if you expect to have a good and prosperous life.

There are lots of highly skilled people with graduate degrees out on the street looking for work nowdays because the economy has not recovered. That is just the way it is. It stinks, but be patient and work hard so you will deserve it when you do get that job that you want.

You posted that same crap to me a week ago. Is that the only spew that comes from your orifice?
Mr. Copy and Paste can’t even work hard enough to deliver an original post to those he disrespects.

Your lies are old, and they reek of arrogance and ignorance. That’s a deadly combination and you should be careful how many times you repost this garbage.

What metropolitan area do you inhabit? If there are no jobs there you need to consider moving to a place you can get a job. Even as bad as things are being young and unattached always gives you the option of relocation.

Sorry to disappoint you, but these people you criticize that have wrecked the economy are mostly in Washington DC and are democrats. Sorry if you don’t like it but that is the truth.

LMNOP QRST UVW XYZ

Lol.

Another Iraqi war veteran sent to the ICU by Oakland police!

Occupy Oakland: second Iraq war veteran injured after police clashes
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/04/occupy-oakland-second-veteran-injured

My my, aren’t you special with your imperial dictates and deporting people from “the environs”?

Too bad for you that you haven’t got the power to make it so.

I’m guessing it sucks to be you right now.

Yes, they are.

Working any job is better than no experience. Even if it is cleaning toilets or flipping burgers, it shows you aren’t afraid of doing hard work. Most of these people have never held a job of any kind, or for any length of time.

Maybe in Narnia that is true, but you can always go fishing in the Sea of Borat and bring up your income to not so much poverty.

Do you have a good reason for being a smarmy jerk to her, or do you just come by that naturally? Delivering rude comments to people who aren’t your kind of elitist does not reflect well on you or your parents.

“We are EVERYWHERE”

Yeah we know, we just wish you would be somewhere else – like Antarctica.

Ralph, interesting how you would pick the one of the most socialist presidents in history to make a point about fascism.

By the way, America is a representative republic, not a democracy.

Who said he hates people? So far, you are the first. He is probably OK with disliking you though.

What are you, the TV police or something?

So?

If you had the talent, dedication and the right education you would be a trader too. You don’t so why bemoan it?

Letterman is a facetious boor. I can’t stand to watch his show anymore. It’s like watching Olbermann, Madcow, and the rest of those lying sacks on MSNBC all at once.

Can the drama. It makes you look like a lunatic.

You people are all silly.

YES Conzentric… it’s FUCKING hilarious. All you masturbating moonbats need to get real and get the skills so that an employer would be willing to hire you. If not, then McD’s is all you get. Getting degrees in Humanities and the Arts is a dead end and not societies fault when you can’t get a high paying job fucking off like you probably do/did in school. You momma should have whipped your sorry ass and told you the truth instead of wiping your stink’n ass for you all the time!

“You smart asses will be left out in the cold, and PLEASE remember you
blog posts when you are fighting for the last crumb or bread! I live in a
rural community which is family based and people here care for each
other, grow our own food, and are planning for the collapse of the
empire.”

YUP, that says it all… go fucking choke on your momma’s cauliflower!

As much as getting a College degree in Women’s Studies, Visual Arts, Sociology, Pych, African American Studies, GLB Studies, etc. etc., etc. is getting a REAL education.

Face it, you’ve been conned by your lazy ass teachers and professors into wasting your life away on garbage. You’re dumb as toast and NOBODY wants to hire you! So go cry to your momma, ’cause she fucked you too!

Break your chains. Conzentric! Go camping and don’t come back. That’ll show us.

Me, I’ll be making a fortune rebuilding the grid.

McRiblocator: http://kleincast.com/maps/mcrib.php

Had one the other evening. Yummy!

Go yell at Obama, the king of crony capitalism…

Did the feral change her name again?  The drama!  the drama!

true dat. The vast majority of americans don’t care if they stand out there and freeze their asses off.

Everybody has to start soemwhere. There aren’t a lot of job openings at the top.

You’re not. You want to help jobless people?
Start a company. Meet a payroll.
Other than that all you have is talk.

How many jobs have you created?
 And i don’t mean city jobs cleaning the grafitti you spray paint all over town.

Everytime she gets in the weeds she pulls the “I’m going to quit responding to you” nonsense, it’s shortlived, heh.

I’ve enjoyed your comments this morning and thanks for posting information about Phoenix, my cousin was a scout, weren’t they referred to as “lerps?’  My memory isn’t always helpful.  When he came back home, any sharp noise would cause him to tremble and shake, took him a long time to get past that.

Thank you for your service!  My nephew is currently a drill sargent out at Ft.Sill, wonder what he could make of some of these misfits. lol

Not to mention the mechanical separation process lets less meat go to waste, which helps to feed the poor and use up less natural resources.  If some yuppie doesn’t like this kind of meat they don’t gotta eat it, no big deal.

Mmmm … mechanically separated chicken….

It figures the board of trade would pick a non-nutritional smoke and mirrors kind of place like McDonald’s, which is unwittingly one of the best cheerleaders against capitalism.

I do and I am, Kitty Kat. You won’t find me whining about how society “owes” me.

“Real hard workers” 

And what exactly are they working at? What are they creating? True working people? Give it a rest. They play with numbers and throw around money. 

I’m a farmer. What I do is real work. These traders don’t do real work.

I support these unwashed hippies. 

“the vast majority” that’s pretty cute of you, making stuff up. 

LOL, yeah, save 50$ a month on groceries. Great tip. I’m sure that $600 a year in savings will cover the cost of health insurance.

You’re lumping a lot of Americans together unfairly. There may be the usual ”unwashed hippies” protesting, but there’s also a lot of frustrated Americans protesting. Americans who’ve lost their homes or jobs. Americans who cannot find a job that pays a decent enough wage to support thier families. Americans who through foreclosure are now living in tent “cities” for lack of proper shelter/housing. 

A lot of Americans are at wits end. They’re fed up with the system the way it is. The US has become a country of haves or have nots, there’s not much in-between anymore. The sad part of it is, there’s too many ”haves” who take great pleasure in shoving it in the faces of the have nots.  This latest macdonalds application incident, being a prime example.

 As long as this kind of idiotic mentality continues, the country will never see the end of the OWs protests. 

You must have minimal knowledge of how “the poor of the world” eat if think they many of them would view the crap served to much of America as an improvement. They’d go from eating fresh, usually hand cooked food to something that had seen a few dozen machines and had been worked over, all in the name of maximizing the cash flows of a few over-represented clowns.

Toadies for the slave masters, that cracks me up twofold.  First because you have shown the typical liberal hypocrisy and second because it was the first full sentence where you actually spelled everything correctly.  The liberal hypocrisy being working people and business owners large and small pay the taxes that you and others like you on the government (your slave owners) dole take.  Shipping jobs overseas due to the massive regulation your liberal government (again your slave owners) places on large and small businesses.  As well as the union goons who make working in America uncompetitive and prices us out of the world market.  Crawl back into your tent, suck your thumb and wait for your helicopter parents to send you more money or your welfare check to come in.  Too bad the CBoT didn’t drop down bars of soap or wet wipes too so you can clean up before turning in the application to McDonalds.

You guys are morons. You have to have a pile of money to be a trader before you even start. The price for admission has gone up constantly. 

Are any of them qualified for that kind of work?

You don’t need a Job?  So are you sponging off mommy and daddy……… Or are you being supported by some guy in exchange for your talented hummers?

Oh look, another angry loser. What’s the matter?  Have you finally figured out that your degree in Art History is worthless in the real world?  Bet your life will really suck when mom and dad finally kick you out of their house. LOL

So let’s see if we have it all down.

You demand a job, whether you can actually do the work or out.   Check
You demand a free health care you do not have to pay for at all.  Check
You demand housing even if you cannot make the mortgage payment.  Check

Move to Cuba or North Korea. I think both are still the workers paradise that you are looking for.  And take all your friends with you.

LoL

Good for you.  I am living in AZ on a 20k retirement. Make my mortgage payment every month.  I do okay.  Even I have had to cut back.  Maybe all the whiners are just now discovering that their degree in Art History just ain’t going to cut it for them long term. LOL

My son has a Masters and now works overseas and has about 10k in student loans to pay off.  Some of the young losers should have considered going in the service like he did.  Hope they enjoy working at Starbucks, which is what their degrees in Art History will qualify for them for.  LoL

I am sure that you, like so many others will be demanding that the government has to provide you with a job and a paycheck.  Sorry loser, it’s not going to happen.  I hope enough of you remain unemployed at least long enough to make sure obama is tossed out.  A little suffering for the whiners for one more year is better than what he has planned for the long term.  Enjoy the hope and change for the time it has left. LoL

My son recently got his Masters and is now working in China.  Maybe all of these losers should have considered serving in the military before going to college. My son did, and has virtually nothing in student loans.  And he did not get help from his mother or I either.  As to the Glock reference…..most of them are likely not in favor of the 2nd Amendment anyway. LOL.  

Traders From Chicago Board Of Trade Dump McDonald’s Applications On Occupy Chicago Protesters

..what a waste of paper!  this despicable, sub-human, destructive, violent, neanderthal, hate-filled mob of anti-American Animal House #ows extremists don’t even have the intelligence or skill needed to be a burger-flipper at mcd’s.

I have to say it amuses me that you are screaming about the possible collapse of the economy while at the same time doing everything in your power to cause it.  Companies aren’t demanding every increasing profits, that’s a flat out lie!  It is workers, union workers, who are demanding every increasing wages and benefits while working less and less.  Why do you think every heavily unionized industry such as automobiles, steel etc. has either gone out of business or is on the verge of bankruptcy…oops that’s right, Obama bailed out some of his union buddies at the expense of the taxpayer and the individual stockholders at GM.  You know, those individual stockholders, like those in the middle class with 401Ks and mutual funds.

Additionally, you idiots supporting the Occupiers scream about the banks, and yet the banks repaid ALL of the TARP money with an additional $4 billion in interest to the Fed. Gov.

You are truly brain washed and are either too stupid to remedy your lack of knowlege or too lazy.

Look up everything I said.  It’s true.  Look up everything the previous commenters have said.  It’s all true. And I don’t mean your pravda west opinion pieces, look up the actual data!  What’s wrong with this country is not business!  What’s wrong with this country is entitlements!  Look at the balance sheet of the Fed. Gov!  Look at the over $100 trillion in unfunded entitlement payments coming at us in the future…  It is you and people like you that are killing this country and yet you have the audacity to scream about its coming death.  While the rest of the western democracies are trying desperately to dig their way out of the socialist quagmire, you morons want this country to dive in headfirst.

Did you know that if the entire net worth of the top 200 of the Forbes Wealthiest Americans list was converted into dollars and equally distributed amongst us all, it would come to about $13,867 per person.  Of course, many businesses would close their doors due to loss of working capital and the employees of those business would lose their jobs, as well as wiping out much of the savings of the middle class due to stock market losses etc. etc. (sound familiar?), but you would get your $13,867 dollars. 

So, you and the other socialist morons get your wish.  You have spread not wealth, but misery.  How long is that $13,867 dollars going to last?  Not long….  And then, who do you go after next?  Because you will go after someone. History has demonstrated that people like you never learn, they are too in love with their own stupidity.  Too caught up in self-righteous propaganda to ever realize that result is far more important than intent.  And quite frankly your intent isn’t good either.  No more than is the intent of a parasite attaching itself to a host.

go kill yourself

they all need to occupy a concentration camp for a while

“…only 2 trillion was attributed to Freddie and Fannie loans…”

ONLY TWO TRILLION?? No big deal, right? Why concern ourselves with only TWO TRILLION! Let’s just ignore Fannie and Freddie’s role in all this because it was ONLY TWO TRILLION. Insanity from the left…

There is nothing socialist about this president, idiot.

Again – you miss the issue. In attempting to defend all aspects of this dismal form of capitalism of the past 30 years you simply dismiss the

legitimate concerns OWS has and which statistically it would appear many Americans agree with. The on-going distortion and abuse of wealth and power in this country since at least the 1980′s has created an economic disaster. Would all Americans depend on McJobs which hardly pay a family wage nor provide essential healthcare. And you wonder why “big government” exists? Once this crew of amoral buacaneers and their skewed business models are marginalized – then we’ll have have the means to return to a decent economy.

Yeah, go to school for four or more years and then work at McDonalds.  It’s no wonder you fascists are too goddamned stupid to understand why we are protesting.  Thanks for fucking this country up you selfish teatards.

Do you “think” at all?  ARTICLE: “The story has been amended to reflect that although mass produced
chicken nuggets at large may contain mechanically separated chicken,
McDonald’s famous McNuggets no longer do contain mechanically separated
poultry as defined by the federal government.”

Your post is IRRELEVANT:  “”The story has been amended to reflect that although mass produced
chicken nuggets at large may contain mechanically separated chicken,
McDonald’s famous McNuggets no longer do contain mechanically separated
poultry as defined by the federal government.”"

It should read “…most ‘socialistic’ presidents in history.”.
And I see you didn’t respond to the fact of it being fascism. 
Denigrating others and throwing out unsubstantiated accusations.  Yours is the lowest form of “debate” (meaning it isn’t debate or conversation at all).
I didn’t call it a democracy, it was in the quote.  We have a CONSTITUTIONAL republic (republic already contains the fact of being “representative”…otherwise it would be a democracy).
By the way, the difference between a constitutional republic and a constitutional democracy would be nil, except for it being much more difficult to manage.

307 comments make me think that they should have given the applications to the posters on this site.

The word “hate” doesn’t have to be in the sentence for it to be hate in the same way racism doesn’t have to be in an action for it to be racist.  The language shows a pretty strong argument for his being hateful and hating.   
“Fleabagggers don’t want jobs, they just want someone to keep buying
stuff for them.  It is unlikely that any could handle the complicated
tasks required in fast food service, maybe start them with cleaning up
the disasters they leave from their temper tantrum/assualt fest rallies.”

“…communists, drug addicts and sex offenders…idiot hangers on…”. 
Yeah, I’d say hate was appropriate….probably fearful as well.  Throw that in with 0 facts and you have a massive waste of energy and life. 
I agree he’s worthy of pity, but not to go without correction.

It’s called good advice, not action enforcement.

Advice…see the difference?  Feel free to take your own.

Go over and see the difference.  What do think it should look like, the Hilton?  

I worked my ass off all my life…until I got sick…insurance ran out….money ran out. 
I’d put any one day of work I’ve done against any week of work you’ve done.  I’ve done the 90 hour weeks and owned my own successful business for 10 years.  Always took the hardest work and always delivered.  That’s why after 8 years I still have past clients calling me.
Definitely “Can It!” on things you don’t know anything about.

You sir, are a putz.

Talk to the hand.

Keeping score commie? How many policemen have been injured by your pals throwing rocks and bottles?

How do the righties here know many of these people don’t already work at McDonalds and maybe one or two other jobs and come here in what little free time they have.  Oh that’s right – you live with your heads up your FOXhole not looking or caring to see beyond your own little shallow worlds.  It’s not just kids out of school, I know people that worked for 30 or 40 years out of a job thanks to the recklessness of the a-holes in the Board of trade and Wall Street.  And you wonder why they are here… unbelievable how clueless so many of you are.

That is a matter of opinion, and my opinion is your opinion is invalid.

Nice nit picking. Are you free of lice yet?

The president in question was FDR, you idiot. He was the founding father of socialist welfare programs. I don’t expect and epoxymoron like you to understand that because you can’t even understand what you read in front of you.

Thank you for your support.

All these leftwits bring up Phoenix and the have no idea what they are talking about – as usual.
LRRPs is indeed what they were called. (Long Range Reconnaissance Patrols) – those guys got into some really hairy stuff. PTS is very common among them – “what has been seen cannot be un-seen”.

You are most welcome, it was an honor to serve. These whelps couldn’t handle the first day of reception much less what your nephew can dish out. The problem is they would never realize that his job is to make sure they stay alive. Drill sergeants save more lives than medics by preparing their men for what is coming next. I still have a great deal of respect for them. Tell him I said thanks for picking up the guidon and carrying on.

Dear Me, are you looking for a significant other to pool resources with?  ;)

I really think that part of the problem is that too many young people don’t have a clue of the real value of things and how you can spend much less while consuming just as much.  They don’t seem to realize that the more finished and ready for immediate consumption a food is the higher to a significant degree the cost will be.

I simply manage my home and life just as I did when we had a family and not as big an income as we needed.  Even when we moved up I never changed that aspect of my behavior.  Private schools are a huge drain on financial resources that have to be found in economies if your income doesn’t quite reach that far.

I suspect that many of those bemoaning their sad plight still continue to live much as they did when at home or while better employed then now.  Sad really.

You guys are so good at not answering questions. 
“Invalid, nit-picking putz”  How do I answer such logic and intelligence? 
Just keep on sitting and spinning, the trees need the hot air.

It’s good to know you consider clarifying information and facts to be “nit-picking”. 
I think that answers all your posts by itself.
Enjoy your fantasy.

Your self appointed need to “correct” others is touching, but I find it more “touched” than touching.
You are a petty and boorish individual.

Clarifying information and facts are not the reason you went microscopic on an off the cuff comment, now is it? You are one of those self aggrandizing people who think they have the right to criticize everyone else while ignoring you own flaws.

Hypocrisy, thy name is RalphHenderson.

Keep it up, you are only making the case for your own complete and utter quixotic quest of liberal conquest of all who disagree with you. My rebuke of your retort was not based in logic other than you are an idiot. As far as intelligence goes you are certainly proving lacking in that as well.

In a battle of wits, sir, you are severely outgunned.

I find nobody greedier than a bunch of filthy campers claiming to occupy cities and streets for the sake of demanding more unearned handouts from the productive members of our society.

Every honest job in the world is honarable no matter what it pays. Advancement of ones position does not have to be within the company where one is currently working. You can start at the top by forming your own company and being CEO. Risk. 

And, Fox News isn’t a bunch of lies. 

don’t worry benita, your expertise of the english language will really help in that job search.  Were you able to grab one of those McD applications??

I too, appreciate the Phoenix info. My uncle did 3 tours, was wounded twice (1 shrapnel, 1 snakebite) and claimed at least some portion of his service as LRRP. He came home a stranger, lost his family and moved in with us while I was in high school. I remember getting of the bus and hearing Wagner blasting from my house. He didn’t talk as much about in country stuff as his overall love for America. He was my inspiration for joining the Corps. He took his life in 90. Thank you sir for your service, and for continuing to  push back against the statists lies. Regards,

” unbelievable how clueless so many of you are”

And how misdirected your heroes are. If the problem is unethical people buying politicians, wouldn’t disposing of them result in a new crop of shady people buying politicians? Perhaps the politicians are the problem, just saying. Oh wait, that’s not an option since your brand is running the show.

” unbelievable how clueless so many of you are”

And how misdirected your heroes are. If the problem is unethical people buying politicians, wouldn’t disposing of them result in a new crop of shady people buying politicians? Perhaps the politicians are the problem, just saying. Oh wait, that’s not an option since your brand is running the show.

I will tell him.  Used to get to talk to him frequently, but now I just check out his facebook page to know what’s going on in his busy, busy life.  He’s got a nice family, two lovely children and a fabulous wife that posts lots of pictures so I spend most of the time just liking everything they have on there.  Wish they were closer, used to visit them at Ft. Reilly, but Ft. Sill is a bit to far.

Dude… your statement here: “when big businesses are proving the money to fund your leviathan government that can stay afloat while collecting zero dollars from half the population,” is completely ignoring the fact that many many large and profitable corporations pay no income tax.  Furthermore, the fact that some percentage of the population doesn’t pay FEDERAL INCOME tax is irrelevant — they are still paying into the inflow of money to the federal government.  Keep harping on that number, makes you sound like a tool of the right.

Compared to MSNBC, no it is not.

So much energy to say nothing, while projecting your faults on to me.  I don’t consider myself especially important, but as far as intelligence and wit go, you have yet to display any. 
“My rebuke of your retort was not based in logic…”.  So true.  Now that I’m so well “rebuked”, you can crawl back to your cave of illiteracy and ignorance. 
“a representative republic” indeed.  Read some books or cliff notes…almost anything would help.
And make sure you keep up the personal attacks so you don’t have to answer any of the challenges made to your misinformation.  Answer some logically and well-sourced and I might respond, otherwise I’m sure you can entertain yourself.

Eat hearty! It’s an ill wind that blows NO good, and sick conservatives help to justify McDonald’s (but you think their burgers taste good? Sorry about the gruel-serving orphanage you must have been raised in). 

If you recognized the value of the workers who made the things around you you’d be on the side of the 99%, excoriating the 1% who exploit them. Unless you are already exploiting them. Few of the workers who have lost jobs thanks largely to corporate off-shoring live off their parents. But, if you’re a typical libertarian you probably were put through school by daddy, set up in business by him, or actually work for him. And you just think that’s the way it’s supposed to be. I can scarcely wait for the day when the rug is yanked from beneath you and your realize what a delicate house of cards the McMansion you’ve so smugly occupied is. Then the only difference between you and the rest of the underemployed, unemployed and exploited 99% is that you had it coming. 

By the way … yes, I have a computer, a car and a number of other products made by my fellow Americans, when possible. I don’t owe their corporate overseers a thing for the product of their labor: I paid for it with money I earned at one of the jobs I’ve had all my life. Say … you didn’t by chance post your comment over the internet developed by the US government, did you? Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Why, it was serve us lucky poor people right, Nagaragan, if you pulled an Atlas Shrugged on us and just abandoned all your job-creating (please tell us of all the undeserving poor people you have provided with a living that we may be in awe of your largesse), quit producing all the essential, life-sustaining products your firm creates, and simply join us liberals in living of the brilliance and hard work of your fellow libertarians. It’ll be great to welcome you to our round-the-clock party and drug session. 

No time to argue with any other conservatives/liberals with tiny brains and massive guts. I’ve got to get to bed so that I can get to my REAL job tomorrow, a job that does far more good than all the day traders on the planet.

No profits, no job. No job, no money. No money, no food. No food, life ceases.
What part of this equation DON’T you understand, fool?
When everybody is on the government payroll, who funds the government?
Oh, I didn’t realise you were saying Fascist Dogma is preferable to free Market capitalism.

That’s a lie. I know you did. I’m being sarcastic…

Amen brother!

So, um… all rebels against communism in Russia were hypocrites too. They wrote their protests on Soviet printing presses, worked in Soviet factories, ate Soviet food… Everything around them, everything that nourished them, was produced by Soviet communism and yet they wanted to waste time complaining about it when they should be working to ensure their fellow citizens had the benefits of Soviet factories and food! Such hypocritical ingrates…

Seriously, that’s where your argument leads. Every unpopular government in history has tried to depict protesters as ungrateful freeloaders who are only protesting because they’re lazy.

There really isn’t much difference between progressives, fascists, nazis, communists and socialists. They may have different justifications and objectives, but they all use the power of the government to enforce their will on the citizens. They all are just variations of tyranny.

Our country is based on individualism and individual freedom and our constitution was written to prevent those in power from using it to oppress the people. Individual freedom and individualism antithetical to the progressives and that is why they speak of it as a “living breathing document”. They can’t establish tyranny if they have to live within the constraints of the constitution. So they just “interpret” it to allow them to achieve their goals.

Obama has a unique record of failure rivaled only by Jimmy Carter and Lyndon Johnson and an ever larger number of people are starting to realize it. He can’t run on his record. The only chance he has of winning is to destroy the opposition like 60 minutes tried to do to Bush and to find something to blame his failures on. That is why he and Soros created the Occupy movement. It’s not Obama’s fault, it’s the 1% who did it. Just as the Nazis used the Jews, Obama is using the 1% and capitalism to maintain his power.

It’s the progressive fascist who are responsible. It was their policies that changed the laws to allow, no force the banks to make loans without regard to ability to pay. They cried that everyone had the right to own a home. That it was the fault of racist white bankers discriminating against the poor and minorities that  prevented this realization of the American dream. It was liberal politicians, including Bill Clinton, Chris Dodd and Barney Franks, who changed the laws and forced banks to lend to unqualified home purchasers. 

Let me get this straight, in defense of the actions of a bunch of yahoos who work in the financial sector, you are lecturing about those “living off the government dole”????  After those same self-righteous bankers collected the largest tax-payer-funded HANDOUT in human history????  Really????  Wow, that takes Chutzpah to new levels.

More lectures on the “welfare state,” which conveniently ignores the massive corporate welfare which sees enormous companies like GE paying zilch in federal income tax, despite making tens of billions in profits.  Also, the largest government handout in human history?  Hundreds of billions in taxpayer money to “save” those genius Wall Street banks from collapsing.  Yet that doesn’t stop you and other wall street apologists from lecturing everyone about “personal responsibility” and “hypocrisy.”  Amazing lack of self-awareness.

Sarpedon1:

Let me get this straight, we are supposed to be happy that the banks repaid the TARP loans?  FYI, they haven’t fully paid them.  That’s a myth.  But let’s explore that concept anyway.  

The banks committed fraud on a MASSIVE SCALE, which sunk the world economy, caused tens of millions to lose their financial security, wreaked havoc on the housing market, caused skyrocketing unemployment worldwide.  This is a fact.  So, what happened?  Did they go to jail for this catastrophic fraud?  No.  They were given an enormous zero% interest loan, funded by the taxpayer, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars.  They used this money to further enrich themselves.  Now, if they pay back the loans, while making tens of billions in profits from those same loans, while tens of millions of their fellow citizens continue to suffer, we are supposed to be satisfied?  Really?  Is that your ridiculous position?

Anyone who throws out the “communism” boogieman knows a) nothing about the OWS movement and b) needs a refresher course on the definition of communism.  There is nothing attached to the movement which resembles communism in any way, shape or form.  Nothing.

As fun as it obviously is to make fun of the Occupy protesters, the bottom lines for me are:

1) Will the Board of Trade be cited for littering?

2) What makes any of you think that McDonald’s is hiring?

I don’t project or waste energy, you provide all the ammunition I need.

Try to give the entire sentence mister copy and paste –
I wrote this: My rebuke of your retort was not based in logic other than you are an idiot. Big difference when you include the last six words. You are still an idiot.

You, on the other hand are a master of projection, as evident by your cave of illiteracy comment. Anyone who has read any of my comments, and there have been many, knows that you are engaging in wishful thinking when you call me illiterate. The Constitution details our form of government, and your micro analysis of the fact we live in a representative republic does not change it one iota. You sir, are the one in need of tutoring, and I suggest you avail yourself of the many public libraries and do the research yourself about our form of government and what it is and is not.

Better yet, why don’t you get off your liberal posterior and try swearing the Oath of Allegiance like I did in 1972 and serve your country instead of lipping off about what the government is? Maybe after you have been downrange for a while you will understand what is real and what is your public school revisionist progressive education/indoctrination.

Until then I will remain unimpressed by your clear lack of understanding of both this country and yourself.

Zero. None. What you describe has not happened. Turn off Fox and talk radio, learn to read, listen and thing on your own. It won’t hurt, I promise.

And, not for nothing, it’s kinda not very bright to call a self-proclaimed progressive, a “commie”. You must like Beck, being that you don’t know the difference. He sure likes to dumb-down his viewers.

Agreed with your first 2 paragraphs and then you went off on your own favorite conspiracy theory. 
I’m not at all happy with Obama’s performance, but I see him as the front guy for the 1% like all the others (with his particular twist and selling points).  Right and left are pretty much the same and I don’t favor either.  Cumulatively they’ve helped destroy our rights, steal what we’ve earned and taken huge steps toward trying to control the world by war, manipulating the flow of oil, usurping government leaders (even democratically elected), and sanctioning non-complying countries into abject poverty.

“Unwashed hippies”…. gee, wonder where you get your information from. Could it be Fox, or talk radio, Rush Limpdick maybe? Or Henn Pecker? Yawn Nana-ty? Shark le Mean? Mann Coulter? (Nah, I know their real names, I’m just doing what they like to do, to appeal to the feeble-minded, their version of ‘clever’).

I suppose that George Washington took time off from his high paying job to fight our revolution back in the day, had daily showers and new clean clothes, freshly pressed, every day. Wonder what kind of deodorant he used to smell so fresh? Good thing he had porta-sans everywhere they went so they didn’t sully the environment with their body waste. They were way too civilized to piss in the woods.

Get a clue, these “kids” are intelligent, well-educated, often from upper middle class families and very, very committed to reversing the destructive corporatization of America. They are fighting for their futures, their generation and their country. And, if you ever took the time to tear yourself away from the right wing propagandists you so admire, made a trip to an Occupy near you, and talked to these young people (or the old, or middle aged people) that you find there, you would be shocked. They are very articulate. They have in their numbers libertarians, conservatives, as well as liberals, anarchists, democratic socialists (it would be smart for you to learn just what these terms mean) that you so love to denigrate. And, since you’re a t-bagger you may not spot it, but their signs are spelled correctly and make sense.

It’s not often that you find lazy scum losers building a community from nothing, complete with food preparation, a ‘comfort tent’ for donated clothing and other needs, shelter, medical care, a library, a cleaning crew, a financial manager and various other services. All the while they are braving the cold, resisting the police peacefully, going to jail anyway, bouncing back from attempts by the powers that be to freeze them out. Never in a million years would you see t-partiers enduring and persisting under those conditions. Nor would you see them being so creative as they young folks. They are now pedaling bicycle generators 24 hrs a day, for their heat and power, since the gasoline ones were taken away by the cops. Yup, those lazy bums are cycling their way to warmth and energy. Nope, you’d never catch a t-bagger going to all that trouble and sacrifice to make a point. They need to go home every day to their creature comforts, after sipping beers and picnicking all day, while they lounged in their portable chairs and waved their little flags.

I guess that’s why the right is so scared of the unwashed hippies.

Meh, Brad is just a-scared. It’s easier to hate blindly than to think. Now these unwashed hippies are gonna force him to think for himself ’cause he’ll have to figure out why there are more of them (us) than there are of the baggers. O-o-o-o, scary.

Yeah, the king of crony, who merely kept on all the guys from the previous admin. Ri-i-i-ight, it all started with him. Like, he crashed the economy and bailed out the banks all by himself. And he devalued homes in the process. Yeah, everything was just peachy-keen until Obama came along.

You are a condescending, self-righteous, unmitigated jackass. You have no idea what is going on in the world, do you? I’m 67 and unemployed. I’ve got 50+ years of experience. Do you suggest I go to Mickey D’s and ring up sales? Can I bring my walker, since it’s a standing position and I have serious knee problems? You are one illness or accident from being s.o.l., just like some of us are.

How about the $500+ million Obama gave to his campaign contributors? It was obvious that Solyndra was going to die and that is why no one else including Bush wanted to give them money. Obama had to pay back his supporters and it cost all of us a lot of money. Then he broke the law subordinating the Solyndra debt to other investors. This crime deserves impeachment.

What about illegally selling guns to the gangsters in Mexico? Supposable it was done to arrest some criminals, but 2500+ guns were sold, no effort was made to track them and no one was arrested until these guns were used to kill a border patrol agent and F&F came out of the bag. Was it to raise money for Obamas election in 2012 or to press for new gun control laws, i.e.  ”Obama: We’re Working on Gun Control ‘Under the Radar’. No matter what the reason this was a crime worthy of impeachment.

First of all, you made that up. Secondly, in the event it were true, (s)he could indeed not feed a family on the salaries being offered today. We live in America, with the American cost of living, but they want us to work for China salaries. And you, Neil, have not a clue as to what you are talking about. No one is saying “I refuse to work for that”, we are saying we cannot afford to work for that. We don’t want handouts, we want jobs that pay a living wage. You know, the kind you apparently have. Read the signs at the Occupy sites, they all are demanding jobs. The so-called job creators are not creating jobs. They want to push us into living like the other 3rd world countries so they can amass even greater wealth.  Really, get your head out of the sand. I know that right-wingers are not big on empathy, but try to put yourself in the shoes of others before you go about pontificating. There are only 24 hours in a day, and there is a shortage of jobs to begin with. It’s unlikely that we can hold down 3 jobs a day because (a) there are not 3 jobs per person available and (b) even slaves have to sleep sometime.

 Has it occurred to you “Grammie” that the women may have jobs that occupy their time all day and still don’t earn enough to get away from food stamps? Maybe the kids are in school and carry lunches comprised of the ‘individual’ packets so they can prepare it themselves? It’s easy to sit in judgment of others when you have no idea of their circumstances. When did our great country become a place filled with judgmental, self-righteous, condescending people, instead of caring and kind people? When money became God, and when Beck, Limbaugh, et al started filling the heads and hearts with hate, that’s when!

The more I read from you, the clearer it becomes: you are suffering from PTSD. The horrors of war have caused permanent damage to your brain and your connection to the human race.

Oh, man, “thugs”, “hopped up” on “reefer”? Riot? What century were you born? MJ smokers don’t get “hopped up”, they get laid-back. You’ll never see a ganja-lover in a riot. That’s just way bad for the head, would kill the groove.  Thugs? You are so confused.

Pathetic.

Many of the really hard workers in this country with skills, education and experience have lost their jobs to overseas workers making 1/4 or less their American counter-parts salary.  The rest of the money is going to CEO’s and shareholders who contribute nothing to companies!   

Do you think the protesters are not littering? Not that defecating on a police car is littering….BTW, there are over 100 McDonalds locations in the Chicagoland area, so it’s likely one or two may be hiring. Whether any of these deadbeats are employable, however, is another question.

No one is going to defend Wall Street (except possibly Obama who is metaphorically in bed with them). However one can not plausibly blame Wall Street and the CBOT without rebuking our incompetent and corrupt Congress who paved the way for this. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, anyone?

Post your major – then I’ll tell you why you’re only qualified for Mickey D’s

Making fun of OWS = loving corporations now? I don’t need to love Big Government/Business to see that the OWS are radical, unhygienic, jobless, violent neohippies. You guys need to clean up your act and your private parts. I can smell them over the internet.

Everytime she gets in the weeds she pulls the “I’m going to quit responding to you” nonsense, it’s shortlived, heh.
I’ll spend time in communication with dark uninformed energy …. but not for long.  It’s not worthy of my time.

Are you a qualified professional? I don’t think you are even familiar with PTSD, it’s just an acronym to use when you don’t like what someone has to say.

First, I did not address any remark to you before now.
Second, I did not ask for your unqualified opinion.
Third, you don’t seem to have any idea what you think because you “liked” a comment I left that had a lot more detail in it than anyone suffering from PTSD would write in a public forum like this.
Fourth, this is a clever tactic you liberals use to steer the discussion from the subject when you have nothing relevant to contribute.

You need to reconsider your career choice of remote psychology, frankly, you are not good at this.

Who is talking to you? You are in no position to start telling me what to do. It is apparent you are a liberal or progressive and you resent the connection to communism. Sorry, but if the shoe fits…

The day my comment was written, she had a different avatar, which I am sure you saw but chose to ignore, and it was designed to resemble the communist iconography of the former USSR – that was not a coincidence. Be that as it may, you are not qualified to judge me or anyone else for that matter due to the brain damage you obviously suffer from after being subjected to way too many hours of MSNBC.

I don’t believe I will do as you say, mainly because it is nonsense. “Zero. None. What you describe has not happened. Turn off Fox and talk radio, learn to read, listen and thing on your own.” I won’t ask you how to “thing”, I am sure only a person such as yourself knows what that even means.

For the record, the Occupy Oakland protesters have been assaulting the police with rocks and bottles in the past week and that is documented fact.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/282320/revealing-video-occupy-oakland-violence-stanley-kurtz

http://www.breitbart.tv/occupyoakland-protesters-sorround-throw-paint-on-police/

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/10710617-oakland-police-attacked-for-camp-clearance

Just because you don’t here about it on liberal slanted news sources does not mean it is not happening. The Occupy movement is violent and malevolent to the point in Oakland they are even having problems among the protesters –

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/syndicated/lord-of-the-fliesoccupy-oakland/

So who is the uninformed here? Looks as if you should take your own advice.

If you honestly think you’re “making a better world for [me]” or anyone else, you’re in dire need of immediate psychiatric intervention.
 
All you’re doing is creating a disease magnet. Occupy Portland just gave notice that they are infested with both head and body lice.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ypeLuKnLg&feature=related
 
Way to “make a better world.”
 
Sheesh.

If you honestly think you’re “making a better world for [me]” or anyone else, you’re in dire need of immediate psychiatric intervention.
 
All you’re doing is creating a disease magnet. Occupy Portland just gave notice that they are infested with both head and body lice.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ypeLuKnLg&feature=related
 
Way to “make a better world.”
 
Sheesh.

For your edification, The OWS rap sheet:

NY: 10/1/2011 — Police Arrest More Than 700 Protesters on Brooklyn BridgeMadison, WI: 10-27-2011 — Madison Occupiers Lose Permit Due to Public MasturbationPhoenix: 10/28/2011 — Flier at Occupy Phoenix Asks, “When Should You Shoot a Cop?”NY: 10/18/2011 — Thieves Preying on Fellow ProtestersNY: 10/9/2011 — Stinking up Wall Street: Protesters Accused of Living in Filth as Shocking Pictures Show One Demonstrator Defecating on a POLICE CARNY: 10/7/2011 — Occupiers Rush Police … MoreCleveland: 10/18/2011 — ‘Occupy Cleveland’ Protester Alleges She Was RapedNY: 10/10/2011 — ‘Increasingly Debauched’: Are Sex, Drugs & Poor Sanitation Eclipsing Occupy Wall Street?Seattle: 10/18/2011 — Man Accused of Exposing Self to Children Arrested10/12/2011 — Iran Supports ‘Occupy Wall Street’Portland: 10/16/2011 – #OccupyPortland Protester Desecrates Memorial To U.S. War DeadPortland: 10/15/2011 — #OccupyPortland Protesters Sing “F*** The USA”Chicago: 10/17/2011 — COMMUNIST LEADER Cheered at Occupy Chicago10/15/2011 — American Nazi Party Endorses Occupy Wall Street‘s ’Courage,‘ Tells Members to Support Protests and Fight ’Judeo-Capitalist Banksters’Boston: 10/14/2011 — Coast Guard member spit on near Occupy Boston tentsBoston: 10/11/2011 — Boston Police Arrest Over 100 from Occupy BostonNew York: 10/11/2011 — “You Can Have Sex with Animals.”New York: 10/15/2011 — Harassing Police with Accusations of Phony InjuriesNew York: 10/9/2011 — ‘Occupy Wallstreet’ Protesters Steal from Local BusinessesNew York: 10/25/2011 — Three Men Threatened to Kill 24-Year-Old Occupy Wall Street Protester for Reporting RapeBaltimore: 10/18/2011 — #OccupyBaltimore Discourages Sexual Assault Victims from Contacting PolicePortland: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Portland’s Attempt At Wealth Redistribution Ends In TheftLos Angeles: 10/14/2011 – Anti-Semitic Protester at Occupy Wall Street10/27/2011 — A Death Threat From an Occupy Wall Street Protester10/27/2011 – Anti-Semitic Tweet From Occupier or SympathizerBoston: 10/20/2011 — Occupy Boston Doesn’t Want Police Involved in RapeNew York: 10/5/2011: Anti-Semitic Occupier Screams About Jews, IsraelNew York: 10/4/2011 — Occupier Taunts Jewish ManBoston: 10/2011 — Occupiers Block StreetNew York: 10/2011 — Occupier Tries to Steal Police Officer’s GunNew York: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Block Traffic, Get ArrestedOakland: 10/27/2011 — Occupiers Throw Garbage at PoliceOakland: 10/19/2011 — Abusive #OccupyOakland Protesters Ban Media from Tent CityEugene, OR: 10/19/2011 — Occupiers Displace Farmers’ Market Threatening Hundreds of JobsPortland, OR: 10/18/2011 — Capitalist Offering Jobs at Occupy Portland Finds Few TakersNY: 10/20/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Threatens Businesses, PatronsNY: 10/14/2011 — Violence Breaks Out During #OccupyWallStreet March Toward Stock ExchangeNY: 10/14/2011 — Protesters March On Wall Street, Scuffle With CopsOakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Protesters Threaten ReporterOakland: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Scuffle with PoliceOakland: 10/24/2011 — Protesters Storm, Vandalize, Shut Down Chase BankDayton, OH: 10/22/2011 — Protester: ‘F*ck The Military, F*ck Your Flag, And F*ck The Police’Chicago: 10/14/2011 — Protesters’ Message At #OccupyChicago Rally: ‘Destroy Israel’NY: 10/23/2011 — #OccupyWallStreet Supporter Rants Against Israel, JewsNY: 10/22/2011 — #Occupy Kid: ‘Burn Wall Street, Burn!’NY: 10/21/2011 — New Yorkers Fed Up With Noisy, Defecating ProtestersOakland: 10/21/2011 — Occupy Oakland Evicted After Reports Of Crime And IntimidationOakland: 10/19/2011 — #OccupyOakland Out of Control: Rats, Graffiti, Vandalism, Sexual Harassment, Public Sex and UrinationChicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupiers Under Investigation by FBI for Links to TerrorismCleveland: 10/29/2011 — Rape Reported at Occupy ClevelandDallas: 10/24/2011 — Police Investigating Possible Sexual Assault Of Teen At Occupy DallasBloomington, IN: 10/26/2011 — Man Claims Occupy Bloomington Protesters Drugged, Handcuffed HimNY: 10/10/2011 — Sex, Drugs and Hiding from the Law at Wall Street ProtestsGlasgow: 10/26/2011 — Woman Gang-RapedBoston: 10/23/2011 — Occupy Boston Protesters Arrested For Dealing Heroin – With 6 Year-Old in TentPortland: 10/16/2011 — Sex Offender Registers Occupy Portland Camp as AddressDenver: 10/15/2011 — Occupy Denver Demonstrator Accused of Groping TV PhotographerLawrence, KS: 10/25/2011 — Sexual Assault Reported at Occupy CampMinneapolis, MN: Bricks, Rocks, ‘Riot Supplies’ Discovered by PolicePhoenix, AZ: 10/27/2011 — Neo-Nazis Patrol “Occupy Phoenix” With AR-15′sChicago: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Chicago Invades City Hall10/26/2011 — ACORN, Occupy Email Talks About Assault on Banks10/26/2011 — OccupyWallStreet Strategy for Reports of Violence Against CopsChicago: 10/26/2011 — Unrepentant Domestic Terrorist Bill Ayers Wows OccupiersChicago: 10/25/2011 — Ayers Coaches #OccupyChicago, Callsg for School ‘Occupations’10/26/2011/ — Occupy Protests Have Jewish Leaders ConcernedWash DC: 10/27/2011 — OccupyDC Leftists Provoke Police – Hang Flag on Top of DC StatueAlbuquerque, NM: 10/26/2011 — Occupy Squatters Riot With PoliceSan Diego: 10/25/2011 — Flag Used as Chew Toy by Occupier’s DogOakland: 10/25/2011 — Occupiers Throw Bottles at PoliceNY: 10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Protesters: Rush Limbaugh Is Bigger Threat Than Al-Qaeda10/27/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Launching First Nationwide General Strike in America Since 1946NY: 10/28/2011 — Fox 5 News Reporter Assaulted at OWS10/28/2001 — Total Occupy Arrests Made Thus Far: 2750Nashville: 10/28/2011 — 30 Arrests Made at Wall St. ProtestNY: 10/20/2011 — Former Marine Tries to Taunt Police into ViolenceNY: 1023/2011 — Islamist Group Joins with Occupy Wall StreetLos Angeles: 10/13/2011 — Roundup of Overt Occupy anti-SemitismNY: 10/12/2011 — There are No Anti-Semites at Occupy Wall Street. Except for This GuyMissoula, MT: 10/20/2011 — Drunk 11-Year-Old At Occupy Missoula, Adult ArrestedOakland: 10/28/2011 — Bounty Out On Police Officer?Manchester, NH: 10/28/2011 — Woman charged with pimping teen recruited at Occupy NH rallySan Diego: 10/28/2011 — 40 Occupiers arrested Boston: 10/24/2011 — Occupy Boston Vandalism of BanksBoston: 10/25/2011 — Store Owner Suffers 4 Break Ins Since Occupy Boston BeganPortland: 10/28/2011 — Portland Police: Buckets of Excrement Scattered Around #OccupyPortland CampSeattle: 10/20/2011 — Two Possible Occupiers Charged With AssaultSeattle: 10/18/2011 — Armed Felon Arrested at Occupy SeattleSeattle: 10/18/2011 — A Tent Fight and (At Least) One Arrest at Occupy SeattleSeattle: 10/17/2011 — Over 50 Cops Clear Westlake Occupation, Make Eight ArrestsSeattle: 10/13/2011 — Cops Arrest Several Occupy ProtestersSeattle: 10/13/2011 — Chanting Protesters Surround Police After Officers Arrest Two Denver: 10/29/2011 — Protesters Clash with Police at OWS DenverAustin: 10/13/2011 — Occupy Austin protesters arrested for blocking cleaning CrewsCalgary, CN: 10/28/2011 — Occupiers do $40,000 in Property DamageCincinnati, OH: 10/21/2011 — 23 Arrested, Remains of protests fill two dumpstersSacramento: 10/19/2011 — 9 arrested in ‘Occupy Sacramento’ protestSacramento: 10/13/2011 — Four More Occupy Sacramento Demonstrators ArrestedAustin, TX: 10/22/2011 — Man Arrested After Knife Incident at Occupy Austin CampNashville: 10/29/2011 — Tenn. Protesters Arrested For 2nd Straight NightAustin, TX: 10/30/2011 — Austin Police arrest 38 Occupy Austin ProtestersNY: 10/30/2011 — Woman Assaulted in Her tentOrlando, FL: 10/28/2011 — Occupy Orlando, police clash over use of downtown parkOrlando, FL: 10/26/2011 — 2 Occupy Orlando protesters arrested for trespassOrlando, FL: 10/22/2011 — Police arrest 19 Orlando protesters on trespass chargesAsheville, NC: 10/30/2011 — Occupiers Clash with Homeless in AshevilleNationwide: 10/27/2011 — Pro-Occupy Site claims 2511 Arrests Thus FarFort Worth, TX: 10/16/2011 — Arrests at Occupy Fort Worth ProtestNY: 10/29/2011 — Three Incidents of Anti-SemitismSan Francisco: 10/29/2011 — Anti-Semitic, Folsom Street Fair Types & Che Guevara LovinOklahoma City: 10/30/2011 — Death of Street Poet at #OccupyOKC Treated as HomicideBaltimore: 10/31/2011 — Woman Claims She was Raped at #OccupyBaltimoreBoston: 10/31/2001 — Alleged Heroin Dealer Joined Occupy MovementOttawa: 10/31/2011 — #OccupyOttawa Violent & Sexual Assaults Not Reported to PoliceSanta Barbara, CA: 10/5/2011 — Occupiers Defy PoliceSanta Barbara, CA: 10/6/2011 — 8 Occupiers ArrestedDenver, CO: 10/31/2011 — Occupiers Taunt Police, Knock Motorcycle Cop to GroundDallas, TX: 10/24/2011 — 23 Occupy Dallas Protesters Arrested After Bank DemonstrationRichmond, VA: 10/31/2011 — Arrests of Occupiers in RichmondDallas, TX: 1v1/1/2011: Man Arrested for Child Sex assault at Occupy Dallas CampNY: 11/1/2011 — Protesters Flock to STD-Test Clinics After Occupier ‘Free Love’Iowa: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers Intend to Disrupt Iowa CaucusNY: 11/1/2011 — Occupy Wall Street Costs Main Street Workers Their JobsSan Diego: 10/29/2011 — Businesswoman Closes Shop After Threats By OccupiersPalm Desert, CA: 11/1/2011 — Occupiers ArrestedTampa, FL: 10/24/2011 — Six Occupiers ArrestedTampa, FL: 10/27/2011 — Two More Arrested In Connection to Occupy Tampa MovementTampa, FL: 10/29/2011 — Occupy Tampa Protesters Arrested After Scuffle With PoliceOakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Rallies Turn ViolentSeattle, WA: 11/2/2011 — Cops, Protesters Clash Oakland, CA: 11/3/2011 — Protests Degenerate Into ChaosTulsa, OK: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Clash With PoliceSacramento, CA: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Smash County Vehicle WindowsPhiladelphia: 11/2/2011 — Occupiers Arrested Charlottesville, VA: 11/1/2011 — Underage Drinking at Occupy Charlottesville SitePortland: 11/2/2011 — Occupier Shoves Police Officer into Moving BusOakland: 11/2/2011 — Malkin’s Collection of Vandalism and Menacing SignsNYC: 11/3/2011 — Occupier Busted In Tent Grope, Suspected In RapeNYC: 11/4/2011 — 16 OWS Protesters Arrested at Goldman Sachs HQOakland, CA: 11-3-2011 — Occupy-Friendly Business VandalizedAsheville, NC: 11/3/2011 — 24 Occupiers ArrestedRaleigh, NC: 10/28/2011 — Eight at Occupy Raleigh Arrested After StandoffNYC: 11/4/2011 — Deranged Homeless Man Goes on Violent Rampage In Zuccotti ParkDallas, TX: CPS Seizes Baby From ‘Occupy Dallas’ SiteWash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupier Uses Child as Human Shield — VideoWash DC: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Try to Storm Americans for Prosperity Event — VideoOmaha, NE: 11/3/2011 — Three Occupiers ArrestedAtlanta: 11/3/2011 — Protester Turns On Fellow Protester With KnifeLos Angeles: 10/28/2011 — Drug Use and Property DamageBoston, MA: 11/4/2011 — 3 Charged With Dealing Crack; Occupy Boston ‘Deteriorating’Boston, MA: 11/4/2011 — Occupiers Storm Israeli Consulate; Anti-Israel Chants — Video

You’ve made a lot of assumptions about my long life and what my circumstances have been..

Did it occur to you that I worked outside the home while being married with children.  Did it occur to you that during my life I’ve had some times that were very hard due to unemployment and sickness.  We survived.  The one thing we didn’t do was riot and blame everyone else for our situation.

You obviously don’t have a realistic idea of schools today.  Any family on food stamps, even families with incomes too high to qualify, will have not only free lunches but free breakfasts.  And I guarantee you that grade school children are not cooking instant grits/oatmeal for lunch.

The point is that it is hypocritical to complain of not having an adequate income to feed your family while continuing to buy highly processed and already prepared food that is multiple times more expensive than the same food that your labor brings to the table for far less.

Everyone of the employees of those companies including their CEOs pay federal income taxes and the company matches each dollar of the social security.  Government is absolutely getting it’s pound of flesh from companies, including the monstrous amount of man-hours spent doing the govt’s paperwork.

I love it.  Drop those applications on those whiners who believe they should be “given” stuff, particularly stuff that belongs to other people.   Maybe had they studied business or engineering instead of “cultural anthropology” in college, they might have a decent job and not be sitting at the CBT in a whine fest.

Maybe they ought to line up, in gauntlet style, when those son’s of bitches get off from work.  I’d like to see one of those pussies walk it

 I find it amusing how so many lefties, when faced with someone who does not share their views, throw out this tripe about FOX News.  It’s weird. I mean, I know that FOX is the left’s knee-jerk bogeyman, but there are literally more lefties who talk about FOX News in comment sections than there are people – right or left – who actually watch the channel. It’s almost as if your accusations of mindless groupthing are pure projection.

Nobody is scared of you. You’re not the 99%. More like a naive and foul-smelling 1%. The 98% in the middle of this may have some issues with Wall Street, but few who pay any attention to these things take you even remotely seriously as people or thinkers.

While you sound like too much of a gimp for McDonald’s work, you’re probably too much of a gimp to have been standing outside protesting either. The people who were actually out there, however, are perfect McDonald’s job candidates. They’d just need a week or two of orientation to make sure they don’t put their hands in the deep fryer.

Businesses don’t pay income taxes. They merely pass them on to others in the form of higher prices to the consumer (you) or in the form of reduced dividends to the shareholders (your 401-K or Pension)
Go ahead, demand higher corporate income taxes but keep in mnd that you’ll be paying thm one way or another.

Isn’t the CEO of GE a friend of Obama and Obama’s “Jobs Czar?”
Perhaps Obama might have a talk with him the next time that he’s over for beer.

@google-8e0aa80a36b32cb3cabfedaeccec9c1c:disqus According to the IRS, businesses do have to pay federal income taxes: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=98966,00.html    Furthermore, it’s not that *every* company doesn’t pay taxes.  It’s that *some* very profitable ones have figured out how to avoid it.  There are plenty of companies paying…

@1676ecf77e66e4bf2cca5bbed79361a7:disqus So, I take issue with a few of your statements: (1) your statement that CEOs pay income taxes.  Sure they do, but since so much of their income is bound to be long term capital gains based, they pay a much lower overall percentage of their income as taxes.  That is the point Warren Buffet keeps bringing up when he argues against the current system of having such low taxes on the ultra-wealthy: he pays a lower percentage of his income towards taxes than his common employees do.  There should certainly be an inflation-adjusted cap on how much money you can claim as long-term capital gains each year.   (2) I’m not saying the taxes on corporate income should be higher.  I’m saying they should be enforced at their current levels by removing the loopholes (whatever those are, I admit my ignorance here).

Finally, both of your responses have the flavor of “a corporation is special, they are not an individual, they should not be taxed as such”.  Well, if that’s really the case then why is the Supreme Court arriving at decisions that allow corporations to act as an individual with respect to campaign donations?  Sounds like corporations are all for those rights that grant them the ability to buy our government, but aren’t quite as keen on being considered individuals when it comes to taxation.

People who live in mommy’s basement while sucking the government teat should be a little more self-conscious about calling a grown man with an actual job ‘pussy.’   Good way to get a spanking.  Just sayin’… 

Yah.  Give us a call when they’re shitting out the windows and then we’ll talk…

one down…how many OO’ers to go?

Yah, that’ll learn him.  Hey everybody.  It’s Pat. 

You’re retarded, and we can see – fatal problems for your line of ‘reasoning’ – if that’s what you call it.  Next time, try something that will at least make people think about it for a second. 

Yup, condescending jackass. I have marched, I have slept out on pavement, and I will continue to do so. It’s much easier to drag a walker to a march than to an office. Bigots like you don’t want to acknowledge that there are handicapped people, let alone hire them. Besides, while marching, I can sit if I need to, not so at MIckey D’s. I will keep marching until the America I used to know is reclaimed. There was a time when workers got a piece of the pie they helped to create. Now, with the destruction of unions, the so-called job-creators are back to abusing the workers just as they did before the unions. And, just to be clear, I have been a business owner and I never treated my employees like people are being treated today. One more point, those ‘kids’ you like to denigrate have more brains and knowledge in their pinky fingers than you apparently have in your whole body. Most have advanced degrees and the debt to prove it. [I suppose you'd bitch, too, if they are unable to pay their education loans from a Mickey D salary.] They have created an entire self-sustaining village in an ever-resourceful and creative way. I’d like to see the t-baggers being that determined and resourceful.

Is this the ‘rape’ line or the narcotics line?  Where do I get in line to get my ‘Rape-rape’ on? 

It IS weird.  Almost like a collective tic.  I haven’t watched TV for years.  I know a bunch of conservatives that are in the same boat.  Conservatives are simply not the target audience for TV anymore. 

uh huh.  and without these non-working traders, you don’t have much of a market for your goods – outside your local community.  moron.

Are you on crack?  Occupiers number 10-20,000 world wide.  A tea-party in San Antonio outdrew the entire collective.  Math is hard.  Keep working at it though.  You’ll get there.

Are YOU really that fricking blind, or just so stupid that you are fooled by other morons into thinking you HAVE to do business with a corporation that you’d rather not do business with?  (Well, except for healthcare.  You actually DO have to do business with a corporation now no matter what you want or don’t want.  But thank Preznit Urkle for that.)  It’s called choice.  You get to make them when it comes to how you spend whatever money the government gives you.

Until Nazi Pelosi came along you mean…she actually got the ball rolling before he showed up to the dance.  Then it was off to the race wars.

Actually I suggest you save 10% of your earnings each week so that when you retire, you have something to retire on. 

Wait.  What?…  Oh.  Too late then.  Sor’…Guess you’ll just have to do your best to rob the next generation to cover your lifetime of mismanaged personal affairs.  Good luck with that.  Maybe they won’t beat you to death with your own walker.

Since most everything available is made outside the USA, what else can we buy? American corporations don’t believe in America, won’t hire American workers and won’t pay American taxes. So, what makes them American corporations in the first place? A charter? A simple piece of paper? Certainly not any loyalty to the country. I’m sure that they retain their American charters for a reason: could it be the special tax treatment they get here for taking their businesses out of the country?

I can see why you’re sensitive Mr. “99%’er’ …

Well you’d be the expert on obstinate ignorance…

3.  “….but you can pay for your iphone and cell bill?”  Nothing to see here.  Move along.

“You made that up”  is not an argument.  It convinces no one.  You should try something else maybe. 

Has it occurred to you that you’re a nasty dumbass, and that no one particularly cares or thinks much about anything you might have to say?  Consider it. 

I’m glad that you made it out to protest and sleep on the floor, as that suggests that you have determination and a high threshold for tedium! It must be difficult and frustrating to be out of work when you’re neither physically capable of labor or mentally capable of white collar professional work, but keep looking. You’ll find something eventually.

Hahahahaha….”the homeless, drug addicts and drunks ” ARE the protesters. 

LOL.  Now THAT’s some funny chit.  I don’t care who you are.  Here’s your sign Pat.  You should spend a week in Haiti.  Ahahahahahahahahahahaha…..

Yes.  They’re so smart and knowledgeable they can’t get jobs and have to live at subsistance levels off of what is produced by the working hands of other people.  GENIUS!  You so smaht pat. 

You should spell you name “abyss”, for you’ve surely fallen in. You clearly speak out of ignorance, obviously ignorant by choice. I’ve no more time for you.

Oh and what exactly are you doing Mr. blog warrior? Seems like you’re spending a lot of time of your own in mommy’s basement trolling comment sections.

Well, if it walk like a duck, quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck. When you regurgitate Fox/talk radio talking points, what is one to think? It’s easy enough to pick those talking points out, they’re not based on fact. FYI, I do listen to the right pundits. It’s amusing to watch them jump through hoops, contortionists to the nth degree, trying to convince themselves and others that the sky isn’t blue, it’s black. Yup, the mentality and lack of critical thinking stick out like a sore thumb.

OMG, you were duped by that picture of the guy supposedly shitting on a
police car? You don’t recognize photoshop when you see it? Tell me, can
you stand up and projectile-shit sideways? If so, maybe you were the
model they used to superimpose the image on a photo of a cop car.

Sheesh! Dumb and dumber, one post at a time.

OMG, you, TOO, were duped by that picture of the guy supposedly shitting on a
police car? You don’t recognize photoshop when you see it? Tell me, can
you stand up and projectile-shit sideways? If so, maybe you were the
model they used to superimpose the image on a photo of a cop car.

Sheesh! Dumb and dumber, one post at a time.

Would you like me to point you to the video where Bush promised that everyone who wanted a house should have one? Especially Latinos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68

So, who’s corrupt congress? My point: they are all corrupt. It’s time to toss them all out. This is what OWS is about. If you naysayers would listen up for a minute, you’d find that you have more in common with OWS than the TP. You would also find that there are libertarians among them, there are some really smart and well-educated youth, there are soldiers, lawyers, marines, police, nurses and many others among them. And, they want what you profess to want: a corruption-free democracy with liberty and justice – JUSTICE – for all.

And that is just what scares the bejeezus out of the right wing. Because the right wing like corruption and favoritism above all else.

 Making statements that you do not backup/support is not valid either. It convinces no one.  You should try something else maybe.

Actually, I did save, and I invested, and I bought property, and I was set for retirement. But then, the housing market crashed 2 years after my retirement. The properties and investments that were supposed to carry me thru reduced in value, life savings got gobbled up by the real estate that now had to be carried because the rental market also shrunk. I have no intention of “robbing the next generation”, that’s why I’ve gone back to work to try to bolster the Social Security I paid for all of my life, asshole.

You are a shining example of the pompous r.w. jerks who cheer for executions, who call for a guy to die if he is unlucky AND uninsured, and who boo a soldier who risked his life to protect your right to continue to be as asshole, but who happens to be gay. I never wish misfortune on anyone, but you are bringing me close.

Abiss (which is probably really intended to be abyss, but you can’t spell), you may not have gotten the memo, but there is a shortage of jobs. I realize that if you can’t spell, but I thought you could possibly read: there are no jobs available regardless of educational level. AND my whole point about the OWS is that they are working to make their own way. They are not living off of your imagined hard work. You can get unemployment benefits (which, in reality, could onluy be a result of their own hard work) until you have worked for a length of time. Wow, you really don’t get how things work, do you?

As for you, Googie (sheesh, what an inmature name, are you 12?), I was a white collar professional my entire 50+ years of working. Tell me, if you’re so sure there are jobs for we white collar types, why don’t you point me in the direction of one. Oh, you can’t, can you? It seems that you, also , did not get the memo about a recession and the lack of jobs, now did you?

Of course, mocking people serves you so well, it makes your puny lives of servitude to the masters feel a little more valid. If you can feel superior to the people who suffer, I guess it gives your otherwise empty lives more meaningful.

McDonald’s applications on their heads…priceless!

I would point out that he says that he was walking alone, away from the clashes, and walked into a group of police who kicked the sh-t out of him and dragged him to jail.  Now, I’m not making any assessments about the accuracy of his account or whether or not he actually deserved to get the sh-t kicked out of him or not, but I WILL point out that at no point in this story did he ever actually say that he was part of the protest… or even that he supports the protest… or even that he even cares about the protest.  Given only the information contained in this one article, I would say that it is rather presumptive to state that a “protester” was injured.

Attempt to discredit all you like. The fact of the matter is the OWS movement enjoys a majority of public support and it’s not just the folks in the street that are pissed. So go back upstairs and finish that blowjob you were giving your boss you pathetic insubordinate and keep in mind we are all watching and keeping score, waiting for the right moment.

Who the fck are you talking about asshole? I’m not a single white woman with kids,  I have a fcking job, working at the 3rd largest Offense contractor on this dust bowl planet, and they pay me really well for the sht that I do.  Secondly, I own my own house, which isn’t under water and I’m current on my payments.  Third, I haven’t had a spanking since I was 10 years and I dare any son of a bitch to try doing. Now, if your mom or your wife wants to give it  go, I’ll make an exception. Bitch

What ” really hard workers” with “skills, education and experience”?  Seriously.  Our skilled labour is severely deficient in this country.  The average age of a skilled labourer in this country is 55 and getting older.  The big joke, as I see it, is this entire protest is by people with 4 year degrees crying because companies are sending job overseas, but the jobs that are getting sent, they AREN’T QUALIFIED TO DO ANYWAY because they require 2 year technical degrees in things like machining, heavy equipment operation, and robotics… things that 4 year schools don’t teach!  The manufacturing companies that do still do business in the US can’t fully staff themselves as it is.  That’s the issue though.  It’s white collar people crying that other white collar people have white collar jobs and they don’t.  Thats the fight… and it has nothing to do with me… or a majority of the real 99% of Americans.  As much as they say otherwise (because, frankly, they’d be stupid to tell the truth on this), they don’t want blue collar jobs.  Its beneith them.  They want a cushy desk job with a corner office and a fat paycheck that they consider worthy of their higher education.  Sour grapes… nothing more.  Get an education in electrical, plumbing, maching, construction management, paramedicine, and on and on and on… and then tell me about the lack of jobs.  I have friends who are making serious bank right now because 1) they are one of the few young people in the US with an actual marketable labour skill and 2) they moved to where the jobs are.  I’ll ask the friends of mine that are out throwing up housing and trucking materials around North Dakota what they think of the current job situation.  Considering they are contracted 3 years in advance at the moment, I have a feeling the outlook is going to be good.  Keep your protest.  I’m busy doing actual work.

You do realize that the Forbes 400 are worth as much as the bottom ~40% of America, right?
Considering Bill Gates’ fortune in 2000? amounted to $10 per HUMAN… 13000 per American is quite a lot of money.
Of course, that doesn’t sound as “fair” does it?

TARP was not a hand out.  It was a loan.  Most banks that received a TARP Bailout have repaid their loan with interest.

Where did you come by the computer you’re using?

So you think that worthless, unemployable, communist douchebags controlling the government is better?

Stupid liberals… unlike you, I’m not complaining.. because although I’m not in the 1%, I know I’m not at the bottom.  Why?  Because I worked hard.. and my boss (the 1%) saw it.. and promoted me.  Over time in our awesome system.. I hope to be in the 1%.. or maybe my kids.  For now.. I’m in the top 30% (that is ust over 70K).  I’ve gone a long way from my first job in Popeye’s.  Even futher when you know more about me.  So, you liberals.. no sympathy from me.  Go work or starve.  As far as helping others.. I will help my friends, family, and those I choose to help (that last part is called charity).  Odds are, once I get to know you, I most likely will not want to help you because I don’t help those that don’t want to do for themselves.  Before you start saying you do want to do for yourself, then why are you crying?.. go work!!

Nothing wrong with that.. I started out at Popeye’s while in high school.  If I lost my job now.. I’d take one of those just to make sure I can still put food on the table.. (might have to take a taco bell job too..lol).  The problem is they don’t want to start there.. they want the 100k job now .. to hell with starting out at the bottom and working your way up.  Lazy libs if you ask me.

Nothing wrong with that.. I started out at Popeye’s while in high school.  If I lost my job now.. I’d take one of those just to make sure I can still put food on the table.. (might have to take a taco bell job too..lol).  The problem is they don’t want to start there.. they want the 100k job now .. to hell with starting out at the bottom and working your way up.  Lazy libs if you ask me.

Do you realize your comment is a threat?

and you wish to move “forward” to a society where a small class of people work to support those who do not wish to support themselves?

Conz, I get the anger as expressed by OCW, and in your comments, and I respect it. I believe in the free market but recognize that it has been badly abused and co-opted.

How about solutions? Alternatives? Slogans are great, but until you — and OCW — can offer meaningful input, all you’re doing is yelling.

I peed in a horse once.

Neither would I want you or some soul less bond trader either.

How many of the people there are rich limo liberals like Moore? The height of shoddy logic is using the exception to generalize about the whole.

 ”productive members of our society”? not you or the bond traitors

Well played, gentlemen. Well played.

People complain that corporations don’t pay taxes — that they either pass them on to shareholders or customers.  Where else would you have the money come from?  Money that’s paid to the government must either come into the corporation (higher prices) or not go out somewhere else (reduced dividends or stock prices). 

Unlike the government, corporations can’t create money.  What they can create, (unlike the government) is value.

WTF is the 53%? For the record, I’m for the 100%.

ZING!

How about the Occupiers get a grip on the term ‘Globalization’, and what it really means. ‘Exporting’ US jobs overseas? C’mon, one of those jobs in the US feeds 3 generations of one family in developing countries. Also, lament the downfall of the US as a world goods exporter all you want – it changes nothing. The US is moving towards exporting education, and highly technical products such as pharmaceuticals, biomedical, IT hardware and software, etc. that require highly specialized education and training to produce.

Even China is growing sick of being the world’s factory.

Moral of the story = you live in a global community now. The products and services used by developed economies are going to be delivered by those companies and countries who can effectively straddle the divide between quality & price. Ecuador or Vietnam, Philippines or Ukraine – so long as it makes sense to buy it, then people and countries and companies will.

Welcome to the Global State. Your polarizing, nationalist, pro-union, vapid lamentations are drowned out by the sound of progress worldwide.

As for the banks getting massive payouts from the government – I absolutely agree that this ‘Too Big To Fail’ environment is wrong. Something should be done about it….

Except – ‘Occupying Wall Street’ is only misdirected angst / anger. Don’t hate the player – hate the game. Actually, hate those responsible for making and enforcing the rules of the game – the elected officials in the US and State Governments.

Get out and vote. Get off the street. Pick up your tent. Stop vilifying people trying to make a living according to the rules laid out for them. And start holding your democratically elected officials accountable. And if you have a problem with the election system that will serve as
your dismissive excuse – unfair, votes don’t count, whatever – then STFU
and go live someplace else.

Drop the hyperbole. Offer some constructive criticism – perhaps some rational, well-thought-out plans to change things for the better.

At this point, Occupiers, you’re not advocating for anything – you’re just bitching & moaning.

Dear American taxpayer ,

Give me your money ,
because I have an art degree and can’t get a job ,
can’t pay off my debts ,
can’t pay my drug dealer
make $22,400 a year

.. and I sleep in a tent

Love ,
OWS

Why would I possibly think that the “dumping” of paper from a window of a building to the people below would constitute littering?

Were they arrested for littering?  I didn’t think so.

Nothing like watching people poke a hornets nest. They’re already starting to swarm all over the country and around the world.

Arrogance acts of people who are convinced they are ‘superior’ to ‘others’ has a long and bloody history of fatal consequences. 

The internet was Developed for the US government, not by the US government.

 Normally I don’t argue with idiots…on second thought, I think I’ll leave it that way…

I’d rather try to teach a chicken to whistle..

 I absolutely can’t stand the mentality people like you share. The “I got mine,  who cares if you get yours” attitude.

I sincerely hope that something catastrophic happens to  you  so you learn a bit about compassion & humility. And just maybe, the TRUE meaning of the word CHARITY.

To call urea a urine extract is like calling sodium or any other electrolyte a urine extract.  Urea is a chemical compound that can be excreted in urine, however, it is mostly reabsorbed by our body and is used as a means to transport Nitrogen.  It is not made by extracting urine.  That being said, MdDonald’s is still gross.  

Signed, just a scientist 

Conzentric,

 A large portion of the “household wealth” lost in 2008 was from falling home values. Since those values were inflated by the bubble created by subprime loans from Fannie and Freddie in the first place, a fair amount of the loss was a market correction.

If those derivatives (as we “smart guys” spell it)  were fraudulent and illegal, then why hasn’t the Obama Justice Department gone after anyone. That would be because no laws were broken. Of course your hero, President Obama was the largest single recipient of Fannie Mae campaign contributions, so he apparently approves of the tactics of lending to those who can’t afford to pay.

By the way, the banks may have bundled and sold the bad loans, but Fannie, Freddie, and Democrats in Congress are the ones who pushed for the bad loans in the first place with the Community Reinvestment Act, and by pressuring private banks to increase lending to the poor.

 Even if the derivatives weren’t bundled and sold, the American tax payers would still have been on the hook for the losses incurred by the sub-prime loans because Fannie and Freddie are GSE’s. For the most part, the banks that were bailed out (I agree…they never should have been bailed out), have repaid the loans with interest. When are the tax payers going to be repaid for the billions and billions we’ve lost in bailouts for Fannie and Freddie? Never. As a matter of fact, Freddie is asking for 6 billion more right now. Maybe you should do some research, smart guy.

If somehow a corporation paid no income tax, it is often because they didn’t make a profit, or they put money into expanding a product line or creating new manufacturing facility or anyone of many reasons. The economic ignorance inherent in your statement is typical. You appear to think that if Megacorp XXX paid no income tax on profits that they paid none at all.  They paid tax on the property they own, on the materials they need, to unemployment insurance, to social security, every employees job they provide includes a fair amount of that money going to Uncle Sam, or they legally invested in growing their company which gave them a tax break, or maybe its the thousands of dollars big corporations donate to charities and the arts. Try starting a small business sometime and you will see how much you pay to state and local and federal units before you make dime 1 of profit.

@c085498fa6fa3cef4201a67395a2c36d:disqus http://www.pbn.com/Thirty-top-companies-profited-without-paying-tax-study-finds-,62433

“Thirty companies including General Electric Co., Verizon Communications and Boeing Co., didn’t pay federal income tax between 2008 and 2010 though they earned a combined $160.3 billion in pretax U.S. profits in that period,”.   I do acknowledge that these large corporations *claim* to have earned the right to their deductions based on depreciating stuff, and making capital investments.   But that doesn’t make it false that they paid no federal income tax.  I’m assuming you support the “47 percent of the populace pays no federal income tax” being a valid point. So how can you then find issue with my point?

Furthermore, it is well documented that large corporations use offshore “headquarters” for tax-sheltering purposes. e.g., Google:

http://nlpc.org/stories/2010/10/21/google-100-hypocritical-paying-24-tax-rate

If the protesters had dropped papers, they would have been arrested by the Chicago PD for littering but not before being tear-gassed, tasered, flashbang grenaded, shot with rubber bullets, and beaten bloody.

When the Chicago Board of Trade drops papers, absolutely nothing happens.

Not to mention the fact that McDonald’s lobbyists were the very ones that had the USDA definition of “mechanically separated chicken” CHANGED so that they could tout their product as “not mechanically separated”.

I’m a pretty liberal person, but you are my problem with the entire Occupy movement. I can’t seem to get a straight answer as to what the movement represents, all I get is the same screamed slogans I used to buy on bumper stickers and tote bags when I was a angsty teenager who wanted to rebel, but didn’t want to put in the work to find out the facts. How about instead of name calling and slogan chanting, you put your efforts into coming up with a well thought out argument or maybe offer a solution.

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu65x600V81r4cpo6o1_500.jpg

“McDonald’s is still gross.” That’s why I eat at Burger King.

Why? Because it’s not possible for someone to succeed despite a catastrophe? I have found that nothing makes me stronger than overcoming catastrophe.

You don’t know what you are talking about. Let me guess, you are a democrat or a republican? Simple minded fauxgressive, neocon…..

rehtard…learns he facts.

I seem to recall that mechanically seperated meat must be plainly labelled as a result of FDA regulations enacted about 6 years back.

The worlds largest employer of handicapped and elderly workers doesn’t deserve to be treated this way.

Rage! Rage!

You are a special person and in the new regime you will be rewarded with homes and cars. Everyone you hate will get theirs. Besides that you’re pretty angry and tough for someone so fat and ugly. Seriously, stare at a mirror and don’t lie to yourself this time.

This is too funny! Those traders have a devilish sense of humor. 

“Is my using a device manufactured by a multi national corporation in any
way stating that its ok to ship all our jobs overseas in pursuit of
profits?”

Well, yeah, pretty much.  You’re saying that you’re willing to subsidize their efforts and add to their profits in order to obtain and use their product.  Which by the way is exactly what capitalism is.  You can complain about the means but I don’t think they’ll much care what you do with their product once you’ve already paid them.

Nice! Job offers are the only likely way to get rid of these fleabaggers.

“By the way … yes, I have a computer, a car and a number of other products made by my fellow Americans, when possible.”

Congratulations for validating their compensation and working conditions by purchasing a product under the production and pricing model put in place by the executives.  Apparently, their amount of employment and exploitation is juuuust right for the price you agreed to pay.

Very funny. A commie “teach-in” showered with McDonald’s job applications. Perfect.

The Chicago Board of Trade collected a taxpayer-funded handout?

@Andrew – $13,867 sounds like a lot of money until you realize that the annual budget for the United States amounts to $12,435 per person PER YEAR.  The government could take all that money, run the government for one year, leave you just over a thousand bucks, and then that’s all there is because that was a one time cash grab that destroyed all that capital, and everything else is exactly the way it was.

Except fiscal conservatives OPPOSED those bailouts.  People continue to forget that TARP actually failed in the House the first time, because the bailouts were never “our” idea.

32% is not a majority.

I’m hungry.  Time for a McRib.

That’s insensitive to the feelings of welfare cheats, union thugs, nihilistic sociopaths and holders of usless college degrees in some form of trivia.

“Let them work at McDonald’s” is the modern “Let them eat cake”.

Dropping job application on them must have been like throwing garlic at a vampire and holding up a cross. 

Perfect !!!

Should have been a cover sheet that said “Pull up your pants, take the nine face piercings out, take a shower, clean your hair, shave, cover your tattoo’s and go find your liberal arts degree that took you seven years to get and apply for a job at McDonalds before winter comes…

Life is not “fair”, it is not “just” and government is not the solution to your freaking gripes !   Get over yourself and buck-up !

So don’t you think it’s a good thing that full use is made of every product then? i bet per pound, hamburgers are more efficient in terms of resource use than organically grown beef steak.

Can you still supersize that?

Gotta love it.  Decades ago we lived in Chicago and my husband had a seat at the CBT – he was a grain trader.  What those Fleabaggers can’t ever understand is that those traders have their butts hanging out all the time.  It’s a fast paced and demanding business and exhausting most of the time.  To simplify – IT’S HARD WORK.  Being successful takes long days, no breaks and a dash of luck to make money.  And to the ones that succeed – they deserve to OWN IT.   Wish I could have been there to help toss the apps out the window.

I have read so many times in these posts that all the tarp money has been paid back. You realize that the initial tarp bailout which was in the billions of dollars was only a drop in the bucket when in reality trillions of dollars were handed over not only to American banks and businesses but plenty of it went to non-american banks and businesses as well. No strings attached.  I’m sure it’s all been paid back though. The fascist nature of our corporate/ government relationship is the issue that people should be up in arms about. They are both guilty as sin. OWS has some valid complaints. Tea partiers also have valid complaints but it seems every group that raises their voice somehow gets co-opted by the corporate/government incestuous partnership and loses it’s credibility. The corruption in this country is spiraling out of control and it is not going to end well for anyone. Look at Mexico and it’s bribe based system of commerce and it’s canyon like income gap between the have and the have nots. The drug gangs rule the streets, kidnapping rich folks for ransom is a growing industry and violence is wide spread and an accepted way to resolve issues. You want to see our future? Look at Mexico. So instead of knee jerk reactions and vitriolic comments we should be finding common ground and fighting the real enemies of working folks, not hammering each other while we do the elites dirtywork for them. Don’t be so easily manipulated people

Well we need to get the mantra “everyone has to go to college” out of the equation.  And the truth is EVERYBODY DOESN’T WIN.  Yes that’s right – when you do crap work – you don’t get a trophy.  And you need to bath, shave, dress properly and show up on time.  When you do get a job – you don’t start at the TOP. You work hard to get there.  You don’t borrow money you can’t pay back and just because you want it doesn’t mean you deserve to have it.  No one wants to see the crack between your b**bs or your b*tt cheeks.  And flip flops ARE NOT SHOES.  Get some manners and respect people. 
 

for those who don’t like this, do you know how female birth control pills are made?  hormones extracted from horse urine…. LOL!!!!!  and 97 percent of all water in Japan is recycled…. 

we all should be more like al gore!  and flying around in his personal jet… instead of flying with others… you complain about corporate greed, yet the leaders of the left have huge homes and make millions of dollars a year in speeches, books, making movies…  YOU ARE LISTENING AND FOLLOWING PEOPLE WHO ARE THE 1 PERCENT…  keep drinking the cool aid as your following people who have found ways to make millions of dollars off the left…

Ask the millions of REAL STARVING around the world, especially those who have been SCREWED BY COMMUNISTS LIKE YOU if they would turn down Mickey D’d food, OR THE JOB.

You stupid POS, why don’t you GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY since you hate it so much.

No that we have all the losers in one place , can’t they just exterminate them all in one shot? We need to get rid of these pests. Please pass the DDT,.

Even if it was “mechanically seperated cat” and people like to eat it , what do you have against that? People know its bad for them just like smoking is but all you fleabaggers still chain smoke. To each his own.

Ahh yes the McRib… and I remember when Sam Kinisen called it the McSh-t sandwich. I’ll stick with the double hamburger, thank you.

Oh quit exaggerating. Actually, most of these occupy groups have been illegally camping out, crapping and pissing all over the place. It’s the 60′s wannabes, but they don’t have a draft to protest against. 

And I have a degree in wymyn’s grievances, minority whining, and communist theory… and WAHHH! No one will give me that high salary the university promised! —snifff-

Stop it. It’s the left who are the “useful idiots” that Stalin made fun of. 

lol  i didnt see this until now    i hope some of these dirtbags filled them out.  go to work.

And I bet the occupiers turned their noses up on the gestures.  These kids think they should make six figure salaries have tatoos up to yzoo and still be counted.  I wonder where was Russell Simmons when this happened? http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/10823856-millionaire-rap-impresario-russell-simmons

Face palm. Sigh.

Dropping my balls in your mouth mostly. How’s my dictate?

Pssst: Everyone knows about the rapey rapey habits of the good ol’ peaceful 99%. And I mean like…everyone. Sor’.

Pssst: Everyone knows about the rapey rapey habits of the good ol’ peaceful 99%. And I mean like…everyone. Sor’.

What was your major? Let me guess “recreation / parks / tourism” or “women’s studies”…

Waaahhhh Waaahhhh!!!

Additionally, at the time of the housing bubble collapse Fannie and Freddy held only 16% of the bad loans.  It was the lobbists for Wall Street who asked for and recieved the removal of regulations and the end of Glass-Stegall which led to the overall collapse on Wall Street. 

Love it!  Get jobs you OWS loser scumbags!

Okay, that is the second time…and I can’t stand it any more!!!!   Get a real education, would ya, instead of some liberal barf education.  This is the second time you have misspelled benefit!!!!  Don’t like American Free Enterprise, get the HELL out of America!!  Or at least learn the language!!!!!!

Logic that I’m an idiot? Thats still called fantasy and projection.
I constantly research and have studied our constitution and bill of rights. Do you understand, our constitution is in addition to our being a republic? In order to set certain standards and protect people from being abused and ultimately enslaved by the abuse of power.
I understand myself and my country very well.
I didn’t attend public school and I’m not a liberal (which I’m sure you won’t be able to wrap your mind around).
Keep up the attacks, your arguments still lack facts and logic.

Actually, it really is. I didn’t stop there though. I have as much right as you do. I however spend much more time in introspection and self-correction than in engaging in reasoning with the unreasonable.
“To reason with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” Thomas Paine

Continue if you’d like, I’d rather see you on here throwing insults, than actually doing something as ignorant as what you write.

Interesting that you let this fester under your thin skin for six days before replying. It is apparent you can’t handle the truth of it which is your main motivation for attacking me over a remark from that long ago. If you spend so much time in introspection and self-correction you are getting some really poor quality advice from someone who is not qualified to offer it.

When you get off that three pitches for a dollar at “Dunk the Clown” at the local carnival, and can wring the water out of your brain maybe we can talk, but I will not be waiting for that to happen. You need to work on getting some help with the introspection and get some outside correction to approach reason.

So far I have not seen any reason behind anything you have written, no evidence at all.

“I constantly research and have studied our constitution and bill of rights. Do you understand, our constitution is in addition to our being a republic?”

I am fully aware of that, and have sworn an oath to uphold and defend same from enemies both foreign and domestic in 1972 – never once have I renounced that oath. Seeing things that you have said in that regard is the reason that you are being called out. The things you speak up for and are in favor of are counter to freedom and The Constitution; sorry if you are offended but that in and of itself shows you are one of the people who are interested in seeing this nation destroyed for the sake of your liberal agenda, whether you deny it or not, you are not a conservative, but you are political and opinionated with a definite list toward portside.

You can declare I lack facts and logic all you care to, but that is your stock in trade, not mine. As a matter of observation, it seems you are the one who thinks that you can bend facts to fit your logic, a logic which is apparently emotional in nature, if not at least a dishonest portrayal of logic.

“Sorry…”commie propaganda” is no longer scary….it has to be “socialistic” or “bleeding heart liberals”, or “Obama puppets” …those are the current acceptable insults, proof of unpatriotic positions, and reasons to hate and fear those you disagree with.”

“I haven’t seen any evidence that OWS “resists and decries the 2nd Amendment.”.
I certainly don’t and would advise people to not push it. I am a bit angry that the 4th amendment is so much road debris after the repulsive “Patriot Act” was put in place (and signed again by the current president). I’m happy to have my 2nd amendment in case they continue with their destruction of my 4th.”

“One suicide by handgun by a vet., 1 shot near OWS, but having nothing to do with OWS. 1 dead of natural causes.”

I see nothing about fact or logic to support anything in any of those statements, and when you do cite a source it is invariably liberal. You align yourself with liberal opinions by liberals and align yourself in support of liberal organizations like OWS, but you aren’t liberal. Oh no sir, no liberals in here, ain’t nobody here but us chickens”…

Give me a break, your false concern is really touching, and I told you not to touch me there.

Had you consistently researched those documents you might know that their names are Capitalized. I.E.: Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Good point. I’m completely disabled and sitting here typing with one hand (my virtual keyboard won’t load properly), trying to add my comments while I can. Could you perhaps overlook that error on my part?

Where were you when the 4th amendment got trashed?

I haven’t checked in 6 days (you’re really not all that important).

The same place you were, once again I have to ask you to offer an example of how the USA PATRIOT Act has affected you personally. If you cannot your Fourth Amendment rights have not been affected.

Maybe you could learn something here:
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2009/03/03/declaration-of-orders-we-will-not-obey/

I can cite a variety of sources, but can you cite any to disprove my statements? Any?
I can’t help it if liberal sources have more current news.

The USA PATRIOT Act was contested once, by Brandon Mayfield in Mayfield v. United States, 504 F. Supp. 2d 1023 (2007). The case was eventually heard by the Ninth Circuit, after Mayfield settled for a $2 Million dollar payment to end the case. Because of the Settlement the 9th Circuit decided that Mayfield had no standing to bring suit. One case in ten years.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CC0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ca9.uscourts.gov%2Fdatastore%2Fopinions%2F2009%2F12%2F10%2F07-35865.pdf&ei=cka_TpH0COLHsQLMvbTHBA&usg=AFQjCNGbqo-eiElAKhwXb981W8RC2Ww3SA&sig2=Ph2ND7Hks6yV6Oo74nTYwQ

Obamacare on the other hand has been challenged by 26 states, and in multiple cases. Yeah, it is USA PATRIOT Act that is Unconstitutional

That is your problem, liberal sources have less news backed up by facts, and more political propaganda backed up by nothing more than the words of the presenter.

This is why you fail to grasp the concept of news in general, you have never been exposed to it.

So far I have seen no evidence that anyone has been subject to unlawful search and seizure. They are breaking the law by simply camping on the public streets and by creating a virtual area denial campaign to the general public who have a right to walk or drive in that area. That being the case, there has been no illegal seizure, so try to find something else to argue about – this one will not hold water.

Never claimed importance, but your reaction seems to be contrary to your words.

“I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. ”

I don’t need to learn that – did it in 1972, served in Vietnam, came home alive and uninjured.

What have you done besides make posts on Mediaite?

For the record, I have been a member of Oath Keepers since it was started. Not a surprise you would go there, but then most of what you do is not a surprise.

He picks this ground to hold and all the while claims not to be a liberal… doubtful at best.

They’ve been denied any suitable place to hold their protests. It’s their right to protest and it’s unreasonable to expect people from all over the country to return home or rent a motel room every night. Without being given suitable and reasonable places to stay (as a means to end the protests), they have camped in public areas (public…of which they are). As far as ‘civil disobedience’ goes, they expect to be arrested or treated as the law guides, but not (of course) to be beaten and hit in the head point-blank by flash-bangs.

I see. Liberal sources have less facts. I should stick with Glenn Beck and Fox news for facts?
Your statement is preposterous.
I read and listen to a wide variety of news agencies, conservative and liberal as well as many outside the US.
You still rely on personal attacks and disparaging comments to make points and don’t seem to realize it weakens your position.

Preemptive war, seizures of “persons of interest” to be sent where law could not intervene, be tortured (the same things we convicted others for doing and labeled them as torture and war crimes), and held indefinitely without Habeas Corpus (Latin for “you [shall] have the body,” is the name of a legal action or writ by means of which detainees can seek relief from unlawful imprisonment. The Suspension Clause of the United States Constitution specifically included the English common law procedure in Article One, Section 9, clause 2, which demands that “The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.”). These are some of the dangers even citizens face as a result of the “Patriot Act”.
Preemptive war is illegal by the way “Preventive war undertaken without the approval of the United Nations is illegal under the modern framework of international law.”.
“1) Preemptive war — sometimes called “anticipatory self-defense” — is considered legal under international law, but only when undertaken in response to an imminent threat. Moreover, the onus for demonstrating such an imminent threat falls on the country doing the preempting. Which means that bogus or politicized intelligence will not be seen to be anything more than criminal negligence.

2) Preventive war — sometimes called “anticipatory self-defense” — is considered illegal under international law precisely because no imminent threat exists. Under international law, preventive war is considered a type of naked aggression.”.
“The Kellogg-Briand Pact condemned recourse to war and renounced war as an instrument of national policy, and that the United Nations Charter, which was concluded “to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind”, requires that all members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations. The new Bush doctrine of ‘preventive war’ which was published in the National Security Strategy in September 2002 contemplates attacking a state in the absence of specific evidence of a pending attack. This doctrine marks a departure from the prohibition of the use of force under international law, starting from the Kellogg-Briand pact, the establishment of the Nuremberg Charter, the conclusion of the United Nations Charter and the establishment of the International Criminal Court, and marks a return to a readiness to use force in international relations.

Following the publication of that doctrine, the United States, together with United Kingdom, Australia and other States, launched an attack on Iraq, having failed to gain approval of the Security Council under Chapter VII. Many international lawyers believe that attack was illegal and amounted to a war of aggression.”
http://www.globelaw.com/Iraq/Preventive_war_after_iraq.htm

http://www.globelaw.com/Iraq/Preventive_war_after_iraq.htm#_ftn15

The people being defended are important.

B.S. – they have been no more denied than the TEA Party folks. Unreasonable to return home or rent a room? What did the TP folks do?

They do not deserve to be “given suitable and reasonable places to stay” any more than the TP or anyone else. Why should they be afforded special treatment at the expense of the other taxpayers?

If they were behaving like civilized law abiding citizens, like the TP folks do, they would not have to be handled like the law breakers they are. They can try to blow up out of proportion the treatment they are receiving , but it is all smoke and mirrors they use to CYA. They have none of my sympathy because they are getting what their behavior has elicited.

Yeah, I have seemed to miss the part of the Constitution that allows for “given suitable and reasonable places to stay” in the First Amendment.

…. LMAO …

Once again you moron which of these pertain to you?
Preemptive war? Are you stupid, or just ignorant?
There were 19 individuals that flew three planes into our buildings, and one into a field, killing 3000 of our citizens in an act of war. So how was Afghanistan Preemptive again?
Iraq happened because Saddam Hussein reneged on the cease fire agreement he signed in 1991, because he invaded Kuwait. It was done to enforce that agreement. How was that Preemptive again?
Wait, I know the Preemptive war we entered into, the attacks on Libya, undertaken by President Barrack Obama.

Who has been sent where the courts could not intervene? I guess you missed all those SCOTUS cases concerning those held a Gitmo.

Once again I ask what parts of USA PATRIOT Act have affected you personally so stop dancing around the bushes or get a new argument, because this one is not working for you.

Where does the First Amendment assure them a “suitable place to hold their protests?
No, they have the “of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Nowhere, does the First Amendment say they have to be provided a suitable place to protest. Nor does it mention protest at all.

The difference between a rally and a protest.  Have the TPers protested anything?
Who are you to say what is deserved?  Stick with facts preferably based on the constitution.
I can see how fractured skulls and lacerated spleens can be so easily blown out of proportion…until they are yours.
I doubt very much they want or need your sympathy.  Maybe Ted Nugent can lead you down Cheneys’ “We also have to work, though, sort of the dark side, if you will.”. 
Uh no, we don’t…that’s called a decision you are responsible for.
Nugent, always politically and poetically correct “wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of
shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued.
“You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless
bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

“Civilized law-abiding citizens” who many are wondering why threatening to kill people hasn’t resulted in arrest and incarceration of.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ted-nugent-threatens-to-kill-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-during-vicious-onstage-rant-20070824#ixzz1deLngeAW

Why? You still cannot correctly type Constitution. Where does the Constitution say that the Government must PROVIDE a suitable place for a protest? Where does it even mention Protests?

Ignorance thy name is Todd Scheller.

“Have the TPers protested anything?” … Apparently your comprehension skills are lacking, or you just haven’t paid any attention. The TP has been protesting big (growing) government, taxes, government in our business, Obamacare. etc, etc. I will say what I please as to my opinion about what they deserve. If you break the law you suffer the consequences and should not expect otherwise…. ie: you deserve it. Whatever your problems are with Nugent or Cheney are your problems.. I never brought them up. Maybe you have been in mommy’s cellar playing on your computer too long. Get a copy of the real Constitution, the Bill of Rights and study them, if you can actually comprehend what you are reading, which may be doubtful as is evident from your posts.

Since you cannot answer the Question, I think Ignoracne’s name is Ralph Henderson.
Once again a simple question: Where does the First Amendment assure them a “suitable place” to hold their protests? Where does it say that the Government must provide this suitable place?

I’m the moron? Here is your hero Bush arguing for his war against Iraq: “For centuries, international law recognized that nations need not suffer an attack before they can lawfully take action to defend themselves against forces that present an imminent danger of attack. Legal scholars and international jurists often conditioned the legitimacy of preemption on the existence of an imminent threat—most often a visible mobilization of armies, navies, and air forces preparing to attack.

We must adapt the concept of imminent threat to the capabilities and objectives of today’s adversaries. Rogue states and terrorists do not seek to attack us using conventional means. They know such attacks would fail. Instead, they rely on acts of terror and, potentially, the use of weapons of mass destruction—weapons that can be easily concealed, delivered covertly, and used without warning.”.
Here is a website that details why we went to war and why military vets are against it. Read it, don’t make me spoon-feed you any more. Are you interested in the truth or just in fighting for your own beliefs?
http://ivaw.org/about/why-we-are-against-wars

So if International Law allows for it, then why are you against it. Seems to Me US law allowed for it as well, or do you forget that law called the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, Pub. Law 107-243. Again this does not change te Fact that Saddam Hussein SIGNED a cease fire agreement in 1991, that he later decided no longer applied to him. You might remember another country being allowed to do the same thing, it started WWII.

It allows for it in certain cases, but condemned it in the case of Bushs’ war. They did not get UN approval and it was an illegal war.
Sure facts don’t change…like the USA supporting and arming Saddam for 8 years as long as he fought Iran on our behalf. We had sanctioned Iraq into abject poverty before invading them…we claimed he was a threat and the whole world laughed.

It allows for it in all CASES, according to Fredrick L. Kregis. http://www.asil.org/insigh88.cfm

You talk about the great behavior of t-party people (of whom Nugent is) and then can’t figure out why I mentioned him. A protest to you is a one day rally with a band for entertainment. Try a months-long protest and see the real as opposed to your fantasy.

The problem is you moron that Nugent’s comments did not take place at a TEA Party Rally, you lying piece of trash, they took place at a Performance of his band at The Feather Falls Casino in Oroville, CA. There were a grand total of ZERO TEA Party Rallies in that city.

No it does not.
http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/imtconst.asp
http://www.lcnp.org/global/iraqstatement3.htm
http://deoxy.org/wc/wc-ilaw.htm
http://www.lcnp.org/global/SCIraqletter.htm

Shopenhauer #1

Your Avalon cite: They used the Caroline Test in the Nuremberg Tribunal, so how does that help you out? The UN had not even been formed then. Fail!
Your LCNP cite: The CCaroline Test PREDATES the UN Charter, it has been a part of International Law since the 19th Century, 1837 is when the incident happened. Fail!
Your deoxy cite: Again the Caroline test PREDATES the UN Charter, and have been used post UN Chatter to allow Preemptive strikes. I.E. Israel’s Bombing of Iran with Operation Opera. Fail!
Your last and Second LCNP cite, tries to get the UN Charter to overrule the Caroline Test, ignoring the fact that the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties allows for a party to a treaty to suspend the operation of a given treaty (Of Which the UN Charter is) if the basis of Consent changes, again quoting Fredrick L. Kriegis: “The UN Charter is a treaty binding upon the United States and other UN member states. The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, which is widely thought to reflect customary international law, allows a party to a treaty to suspend the treaty’s operation if circumstances constituting an essential basis of its consent have fundamentally changed in a way not foreseen when the treaty was entered into, and if the change radically transforms the extent of obligations still to be performed under the treaty. It may be argued that the same principle would apply to specific provisions in a treaty. Thus it may be argued that circumstances have so fundamentally changed since 1945, when the UN Charter was adopted, that the “armed attack” restriction can no longer be taken literally.” http://www.asil.org/insigh88.cfm Fail a fourth time!

You are such a failure.

Explain again how this support you.
http://ivaw.org/about/why-we-are-against-wars

You haven’t even responded to half my sources and you slide untruth into every response.

THE UNITED NATIONS CHARTER
AND THE USE OF FORCE AGAINST IRAQ
The United Nations Charter is a treaty of the United States, and as such forms part of the “supreme law of the land” under the Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2. The UN Charter is the highest treaty in the world, superseding states’ conflicting obligations under any other international agreement. (Art. 103, UN Charter)
“Self-defense is justified only when the necessity for action is “instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation.” (Letter from Daniel Webster, Secretary of State, to Lord Ashburton, August 6, 1842, reprinted in 2 John Bassett Moore, A Digest of International Law 409, 412 (1906)). A modern version of this approach is found in Oppenheim’s International Law: Ninth Edition, 1991, p. 412 (emphasis added):

The development of the law, particularly in the light of more recent state practice, in the 150 years since the Caroline incident suggests that action, even if it involves the use of armed force and the violation of another state’s territory, can be justified as self defence under international law where:
an armed attack is launched, or is immediately threatened, against a state’s territory or forces (and probably its nationals);
there is an urgent necessity for defensive action against that attack;
there is no practicable alternative to action in self-defence, and in particular another state or other authority which has the legal powers to stop or prevent the infringement does not, or cannot, use them to that effect;
the action taken by way of self-defence is limited to what is necessary to stop or prevent the infringement, i.e. to the needs of defence…

The application of the basic law regarding self-defense to the present U.S. confrontation with Iraq is straightforward. Iraq has not attacked any state, nor is there any showing whatever that an attack by Iraq is imminent. Therefore self-defense does not justify the use of force against Iraq by the United States or any state.

In case you missed it as per usual:
“The application of the basic law regarding self-defense to the present U.S. confrontation with Iraq is straightforward. Iraq has not attacked any state, nor is there any showing whatever that an attack by Iraq is imminent. Therefore self-defense does not justify the use of force against Iraq by the United States or any state.”

The United Nations.
The “supreme law of the land” under the Constitution, Article VI, Clause 2., rejected the argument for war against Iraq.

We can leave the other war crimes etc. for another time after you admit you are quite simply, completely wrong.
If you aren’t mature enough got talk to a wall or one of your buddies.

Okay, since you are so slow I will do that for you. You quoted Bush, here is the Full Quotemm, that does not appear on your website from the Iraqi War Veterans: “The United States, the American people, and our interests at home and abroad by identifying and destroying the threat before it reaches our borders. While the United States will constantly strive to enlist the support of the international community, we will not hesitate to act alone, if necessary, to exercise our right of self-defense by acting pre-emptively against such terrorists, to prevent them from doing harm against our people and our country….Given the goals of rogue states and terrorists, the United States can no longer solely rely on a reactive posture as we have in the past. The inability to deter a potential attacker, the immediacy of today’s threats, and the magnitude of potential harm that could be caused by our adversaries’ choice of weapons, do not permit that option. We cannot let our enemies strike first….For centuries, international law recognized that nations need not suffer an attack before they can lawfully take action to defend themselves against forces that present an imminent danger of attack. Legal scholars and international jurists often conditioned the legitimacy of pre-emption on the existence of an imminent threat—most often a visible mobilization of armies, navies, and air forces preparing to attack. We must adapt the concept of imminent threat to the capabilities and objectives of today’s adversaries….The United States has long maintained the option of pre-emptive actions to counter a sufficient threat to our national security. The greater the threat, the greater is the risk of inaction—and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves, even if uncertainty remains as to the time and place of the enemy’s attack. To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act pre-emptively.”

The International Law that allows for the Preemptive strike is called the Caroline Test, from the 1837 Caroline Affair, the Caroline was a Steamboat that carried supplies to Canadian Rebels, the British captured the SS Caroline towed her into the current, set her afire and sent her over Niagara Falls. Then US Secretary of State Daniel Webster, argued that force might have been used in the case of Self-Defense, but that there was no need for self-defense at the time.

Here is the Avalon site on the case: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/br-1842d.asp
Here is a Miskolc International Law School Journal Article on the case: http://www.uni-miskolc.hu/~wwwdrint/20042rouillard1.htm

Where does it state in the Constitution again that Veterans get to declare war?

One, I am not wrong.
Two, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the Supremacy clause, which makes you wrong.
That clause states:
“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
So in Order as listed Supremacy comes from:
1) The Constitution (Which grants Congress, not the UN to declare war),
2) The Laws of the United States (Also referred to as the United States Code, or Public Laws, remember that Public Law 107-243?),
3) Treaties made or which shall be made (The UN Charter falls here, so it is not Supreme to the Constitution or US Public Law),
4) State Constitutions,
5) State Laws.

I thought you studied the Constitution, how can you be so wrong about it so often.

So even though the UN rejected the argument for the war against Iraq, they had already authorized force to be used against Iraq. You might Remember UNSC Resolution 678, that allowed for the removal of Iraq from Kuwait, and UNSC Resolution 687 that ended the Gulf War, if Iraq meet certain requirements.

When ever you want to admit that there is overwhelming Evidence that you are wrong, we can move forward. Remember no one has been charged with going to war Illegally since the Nuremberg Tribunal.

You had four sources, I responded to Four sources, how was that only half? Who is sliding half truth again? You Ralph?

The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, then Comes the United States Code and Public Laws, then the Treaties (The UN Charter falls here). The UN Charter does not have Supremacy over the Constitution, nor US Laws, so saith the Constitution at Article VI, Clause 2.

To Quote Webster again since you are so thick: “leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation.” Saddam had rejected the other means, and there was 12 years of deliberation. There was not more time to allow for other lessor means to take effect, they had already proven not to work. There was also no more time to wait and let him to continue to attack his own people, or any other nation.

This guy is knowledge resistant, Todd. No matter how much you explain he will remain permanently ignorant because it is genetic with him. He doesn’t have any shred of discernment in him and can’t tell the truth from lies he prefers to believe.

Best cure for hornets – pyrethryn and a trash bag. Put the insecticide in the bag, knock the hornet nest in the bag and tie it shut. Wait a while and toss the mess out.

I’ll bet you did.

The part you continue to miss is Conrad WORKED for his. I absolutely can’t stand the mentality of people like you who refuse to do the work to get yours.

Too bad there isn’t a draft nowdays – all of you could learn something about hard work, and taking direction from people who know better than you. You start at the bottom – no one begins as a leader, but you can earn that if you work for it.

Great strategy – why don’t you take the police on first so you don’t get arrested for assaulting the employed people. Oh, I forgot, the police will kick your lazy, smarmy ass and haul you off to jail.

It’s all good.

OK mister Offense contractor, You want to put up or shut up? You’re really good at blowing and shouting down people, how good are you at keeping your ass in one piece?

I fought much tougher VC and NVA than you and didn’t get a scratch. How about you? Put on a uniform, tote an M16, and face the bad guys on their turf for a year and then you can talk. Hell, I’ll bet you couldn’t handle having to live without air conditioning in the over 100 degree heat and the 97 percent minimum humidity, much less the mosquitos, snakes, leeches, and liver flukes in the swamps we marched through everyday to keep from catching AK rounds, grenades and mines.

I have no respect for an internet loudmouth like you, and never will. You need to stop the personal attacks – this forum doesn’t need jerks like you – Condescendingjerkssuckballs.

You are stupid enough to pull that photoshop gag. Believe what you want to believe, but you don’t have to live like a refugee.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/shooting-victim-tied-to-occupy-oakland.html

Note the source –

Seems that a lot of liberals posted a lot of comments that run contrary to the facts, I just felt it was my civic duty to point this out; especially to you.

“The rest of the money is going to CEO’s and shareholders who contribute nothing to companies!”

The shareholders provide the operating capital for these companies, and the CEO’s direct how the capital is used to ensure growth of the company.

Yes, they contribute absolutely nothing – unless you consider that the companies would not exist without either of them.

Please John, try to understand the facts of life regarding how business is run.

“I’ve no more time for you. “  Oh, how could we have been so blessed?  Too bad it didn’t happen sooner.

Busted!

Yet he claims to be a studied scholar on the matter. He also sent me to OathKeepers to learn The Constitution and what it means. I happen to be a member, and if Ralphie here is one I am going to recommend his membership be revoked because he is obviously a closet liberal or a liberal plant, and he has no idea about most of the meaning of The Constitution. He misinterprets most of it and expects the rest of us to conform to his misinterpretation. Sort of reminds you of what Benjamin Franklin said about doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results, doesn’t it?

I’ll bet he is going for the right of free and peaceable assembly to petition the government… but they aren’t peaceable, nor are they petitioning the government.

He is so dumb it makes other people’s heads hurt.

First of all, the fact that you went to Viet Nam tells me that 1) you’re not that smart or you would’ve gotten a college deferment, like most of my relatives of that age group. 2)  that also tells me that you come from a back ground where money was limited.  3) I could’ve gone to the military, I tested pretty high in that navy test that they administer, but out of respect to my dad I didn’t.  My  dad fought with honor in WWII and he had to put up with more bullshit from Amerikans than he did the Japanese.  As far as weather conditions are concerned, what you listed if fucking nothing. My maternal family comes from the landed gentry of Mauritania and I spent summers there until I was 14.  Since you like to ask fcking questions, how would you deal with 120 degree heat, with 105 degree nights? Anyway, you had your part to play, and that was making sure that people from the upper classes didn’t have to fight in an unjust war anyway.  Anyway, fck you very much and have a nice day ;)

Just to let you know, grunt, I was a cop for the third largest police agency in Los Angeles County.  As far as being lazy and all that, elbows and assholes my man.  Jail, pssst, please (shout out to the Jim Rome Show).

Don’t presume to tell me what a protest is to me. TP protests are still protests no matter how long. They do so in a mature, responsible manner. Unlike OWS, they do not break any laws. Unlike OWS they do not impede the flow of traffic, urinate/defecate on cars or the grounds where they assemble, leave trash, rape or assault others, confront and verbally assault police or news people, expect other taxpayers to feed them, cause damage to surrounding businesses, etc. Have your month long protest/demonstration. Do it responsibly, respectfully and withing the law. Go home or to your hotel at night, take a shower and think about how you can present your ideology in a manner that would draw respect rather than ridicule…. ie: GROW UP!

LMAO …… If RH could get beyond the limits of his comprehension he would not be posting his nonsense.

Con,

Don’t worry too much about this idiot. 
He is a narcissistic windbag.
I love how he bragged about his service during Vietnam.
He has the audacity to brag about finishing his tour without a scratch.
Well, I guess it would be tough to get wounded when your are rocking back and forth in the fetal position and sucking your thumb in the bottom of a foxhole!!!

You’re a Phony strtlk/mtclayboy. You’re a liar and a bigot who doesn’t have any credibility here. You have an unhealthy fixation on another man. You’re the worst kind of idiot, a Phony Soldier who lies about his Military service and a hatemonger on this site.

People, this is just on of this idiots “socks”.

He’s stinks the place up with his garbage and thinks he can threaten people at will.

“TMP”

He probably suffers from Progressive Brain Syndrome: characterized by a teflon like coating of the cerebral cortex which rejects all reason but allows for incoming information that fits only onto the leftwing receptor sites. As suggested by it’s name, it is a progressive disease that is rarely curable, and eventually leads to death of the basic freedoms of the individual. It’s insidious spread within communities when not kept in check, has lead to the fall of nations. There is no known antidote or cure. Prevention through education is the best defense for people allowing themselves to be inoculated with the disease by the present vectors. Those most susceptible are the young and otherwise immature in the population who perceive themselves as being entitled, treated unfairly, or who are allergic to honest hard work. Many have high expectations of their surrounding society to care for their needs and wants and to provide for them otherwise. Prognosis: Not clear. Much depends on the duration of exposure and current climate.

Big difference between charity and a handout. Charity is for people who try but are down on their “luck” (Not something in their control). Handouts are for those who choose to be losers or are too lazy to make an honest effort on their own behalf. For some reason (guess) there are people who can’t tell the difference – or don’t want to.

Only someone like yourself can find yourself without a clue of what it is to not be able to rent a room or commute (some hundreds or thousands of miles) every day. A rally is not a protest and you are still clueless.

Not “then”…it reads “and” or “and/or”…it’s not in order of higher power, but of equal power.

Clause 2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

Why don’t you try it, fakesquidboy? Oh yeah, that’s right, there isn’t any shooting on a garbage barge.

You are a despicable and dishonorable piece of horse manure. You have no right to make any claims about my service before you were even born. You and CSB are a pair all right, is that who you hot bunked with??? Oh, wait – hot bunking requires one of you to get out of the bed.

You responded to less than half of the information given in and backed by those sources.

So I am supposed to respect you and believe you are telling the truth about this? You blew any chance of that happening when you went batshit crazy over my service in time of war.

Only Congress can declare war, but the US signed the treaties which give the UN power to declare a war legitimate or not. It’s international law, it doesn’t interfere with our constitutional rights, except where those are interpreted in such a way as to deny rights to others nations and peoples.
As such an expert on the constitution who keeps bringing up the same circular reasoning and illogical jumps (“Congress declares war, not the UN”), why does it not matter what the entire world as well as most constitutional scholars agree that the war was illegal? There are lists of “war crime” allegations which the US government refuses to address or paid to settle. Several countries have determined to arrest and prosecute Bush Jr. et al and only backed down under extreme pressure from our government.
I’m sure you’ll disregard and mock an MIT Professor whose research and depth of reason are no doubt beyond you (beyond myself at times), but Noam Chomsky has about 1/3 of his books dedicated to references and sources and if you can refute him, then good luck to you. As usual your name calling leave little doubt as to your character and understanding.

“Slow” only to drop an debate with a person who has made up their mind, so reason has no longer any impact. “When I get new information, I change my position appropriately. What do you do?”.

I volunteered for service – not a draftee, Regular Army.

You are completely incorrect in your assessment as usual.

Your dad fought in WWII, and had to put up with bull crap from “Amerikans” ??? What the hell does that mean?

You had similar weather to SE Asia growing up. Good for you. Did you also have enemy combatants trying to kill you? As far as that goes, I was there for my buddies when they needed me, and while not everyone was lucky enough to come home, I did my best to make sure that they had a fighting chance at it. You got any more ignorant crap to fling? I’m sure you do. Do your worst, it just makes you look like an even bigger jackass.

My Dad was in Korea, and my Mom worked at the Pentagon in the Army Crypto section. Why don’t you insult them as well? Be my guest, after all I want you to have the biggest opportunity to be a liberal piece of crap that you can be. Maximize your potential! Let’s see just how stupid you can be. Veterans Day was this past Friday, did you go to the cemetery and steal flags and whiz on markers again like last year???

You are an incredible pile.

Agreed.

You obviously do not understand…

Total cephalic necrosis. That explains the smell.

Ralphie, why do you want a Shopenhauer for Christmas? You’ll shoot your eye out!

Apparently the one here who is clueless is you. Get a room – walk or take a bus to it if you can’t get one right where you are standing. You can call it a rally, protest, demonstration, or a banana sandwich if you like. It all boils down to behaving within the law, being responsible for yourself and not expecting others to take care of YOU..

He could have been a dirty cop for all we know. Sure has the talk.

Oh dear! And here I thought it was the bucket of sheep’s rectums he keeps under his bed!…. whatever for!….. EWE! ..

LMAO

Hehehehehe well, where there’s a will there’s a way.

Where have I said what you try to attribute to me? How have I changed my position? My position has always been that the Invasion of Iraq was legal. And I have presented evidence as to that. When have you ever used reason? You have not even used reality, much less reason. The UN does not have the power to declare war for the United States, never has had that power, and never will.

What gives Congress the Power to Declare War? The Constitution. What determines the Supremacy of the Constitution, Public laws, and Treaties? The Constitution. Why do you continually have an issue typing Constitution? And I am the one making cirular arguments.

You are claiming that the Invasion of Iraq, by Coalition Forces is illegal, because UN General-Secretary Kofi Annan siad it was? Since I have found Constitutional and International Law Scholars that disagree with you, your claim of the “entire world” is Disingenuous. The United Kingdom, Australia, Poland, South Korea, Italy, Spain, do not agree with you, they all participated in the Invasion of Iraq in 2003. So when you get some real facts let me know.

Seriously? Dr. Chomsky? A Linguist? He is not a legal scholar so get real.

When you provide more than a link to a source, and use the pertinent information, including that which proves you wrong. I might review it, I am not going to do your research by reading every word of every source that you post. Learn the process of debate and then we can move forward.

Of course he’s wrong – he’s Ralphie.

“Sheep’s rectums” “EWE! ..”

Man you are too funny tonight girl – almost sprayed a sip of coffee! I love the extra starch with the irony.

Lets see how this test works, shall we? The Phrase and/or appears a grand total of Zero Times in the entire Constitution. So you fail on the facts with that part of your retarded argument.

Can you find one SCOTUS case that says that a Treaty is Supreme to the Constitution?
“There is nothing in this language which intimates that treaties and laws enacted pursuant to them do not have to comply with the provisions of the Constitution. Nor is there anything in the debates which accompanied the drafting and ratification of the Constitution which even suggests such a result. These debates, as well as the history that surrounds the adoption of the treaty provision in Article VI, make it clear that the reason treaties were not limited to those made in “pursuance” of the Constitution was so that agreements made by the United States under the Articles of Confederation, including the important peace treaties which concluded the Revolutionary War, would remain in effect. It would be manifestly contrary to the objectives of those who created the Constitution, as well as those who were responsible for the Bill of Rights — let alone alien to our entire constitutional history and tradition — to construe Article VI as permitting the United States to exercise power under an international agreement without observing constitutional prohibitions. In effect, such construction would permit amendment of that document in a manner not sanctioned by Article V. The prohibitions of the Constitution were designed to apply to all branches of the National Government, and they cannot be nullified by the Executive or by the Executive and the Senate combined.
There is nothing new or unique about what we say here. This Court has regularly and uniformly recognized the supremacy of the Constitution over a treaty.For example, in Geofroy v. Riggs, 133 U. S. 258, 133 U. S. 267 (1890), it declared:

“The treaty power, as expressed in the Constitution, is in terms unlimited except by those restraints which are found in that instrument against the action of the government or of its departments, and those arising from the nature of the government itself and of that of the States. It would not be contended that it extends so far as to authorize what the Constitution forbids, or a change in the character of the government, or in that of one of the States, or a cession of any portion of the territory of the latter, without its consent.”

“This Court has also repeatedly taken the position that an Act of Congress, which must comply with the Constitution, is on a full parity with a treaty, and that, when a statute which is subsequent in time is inconsistent with a treaty, the statute to the extent of conflict renders the treaty null. It would be completely anomalous to say that a treaty need not comply with the Constitution when such an agreement can be overridden by a statute that must conform to that instrument.” – Reid v. Covert, 354 U.S. 1 (1956), at pg 16-18, from noted Constitutional Scholar Justice Hugo Black.

You lose again on the reality of the facts, because the facts are not what you want them to be.

I noticed the WAS part of his cop experience right away. It is definitely a sign of not being able to claim AM status.

Wonder what his reputation is at the department? I wouldn’t be surprised if his real name is Paul Blart.

Dr Chomsky the anarcho-communist propagandist and lunatic? If you are looking for a real nut case with the most convoluted illogical philosophy anywhere (research and depth of reason? – HAH!). He will twist an acorn and tell Ralph it is a peanut and Ralph would believe the guy. MIT and the gullibles are balonied by a pseudo-intellectual who passes his philosophy of as the works of an enlightened and deep mind but it is BS that he has managed to package and sell to the pseudo intellectual gullibles as some incredible enlightened thought. Incredible is about right. It reminds me of the “painting” that was ooohed and ahhhed by art critics as something so wonderful, insightful, talented, … ahhh such sense of color and composition…. blah, blah, blah…. and it was later revealed that it was made by sticking a brush in an elephant’s trunk and letting him slap at a canvas. People will believe all sorts of crap if it’s passed off just right and they think it is all that and will make themselves look like something if they support it….
LMAO every time

TEA Party rally attendees paid for their own rooms. Since you are so clueless, let me ask again, Where does the Constitution say that they have to be provided rooms, or places to protest?

Is it time for me to get involved?

They wrote it on the back of The Declaration of Independence next to the map, in indivisible ink.

Are you guys having a taco party again? Why didn’t I get invited? I like tacos. Don’t you think this was something I would like to know about?

(phone rings)

Uh, OK…

I believe that elephant was painting a portrait of Dr. Chomsky.

doodadio,
Did you not know that investing capitol in a company equates to nothing?

HeHeHeHeHeee …Paul Blart? I never saw the movie but can imagine from comments I saw on the web. Why would one quit if he was so wonderful? or is quit the wrong word.

Awe, c’mon dad…

Tacos? OK…

I’d shot you scum bag hippies in the face if you dared challenge me.

Then it still would not be on the Constitution. Okay, Benjamin Franklin Gates, why did you not show us that in your movie.

Sure – come on down!

Ooops – that may be misinterpreted… there are libruls in here …… LMAO

What? I’ll challenge you and I’m certainly no hippie. I challenge you to seem almost lifelike.
So far you have failed miserably. Want a second try?

You know, they have to leave the best parts on the cutting room floor so they can include the kissy stuff.

Next thing you know he will let the Bumpass’s dogs in and there goes the Turkey…

Oops, my bad…

It looks like he may have been “released to benefit the community in a greater capacity” to me. Perhaps he was given a lifetime appointment as citizen in charge – of himself.

Don’t remind me of Scott Farkas or Lava… Oh my! My fav of all time!

I’ve never denied anyone from joining in a three-way because of their political convictions…

I can see I am going to have to get in-to-it once again…
But it’ll have to be tomorrow…

To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

LOL!

Turns out, twice as many OWS protesters are employed than teabaggers:

“A new infographic
posted on the Dangerous Minds blog shows some striking differences
between the Occupy movement and the Tea Party. The movement is younger,
more politically independent, less wealthy and, unfortunately for all
of the folks crying laziness, MORE EMPLOYED.
According to the graphic, pulled together by Accelerated Degree,
70% of Occupy Wall Street participants are employed, taking the wind
out of the argument that protestors are lazy, free-riding hippies with
nothing else to do. Many of the movement’s most staunch supporters go
protest and occupy AFTER WORK.”

Seem to miss where the stat for the TEA Party is in that plagiarized quote mudplanet. You sort of need both to compare.

No, urea is from  BLOOOOD!

mmmmm.  grey.

True, but the food version from blood, not urine.  It’s removed from the blood by the kidneys and excreted in urine.  Also used as fertilizer.

And all those horses go to slaughterhouses in CA and MX where they aren’t treated very humanely at the slaughter.  No one talks about that.

Please remove my bag from your chin Mud.

they no longer use mechanically separated chicken,,  but they did,,, and they washed it with amonia and added flavoring back in to cover the ammonia,,

We are armed here, Mexico has very restrictive gun control laws.  The south will be safe, the Liberal East and Mexifornia will be flushed down the toilet along with the Progressive run dumps like Detroit and New York, Ya All have fun. 

Conz – are you braindead or just LEFTTARDED?

Think anyone of them pick one of the sheets up and then were they able to read it and then fill it out  ” APPLY FOR A ===JOB!!!!!==

So for the sake of argument let’s say we do what you want and take away all the corporations’ money and influence.

How does that stop the government politicians who are willing to be bribed?  Something will fill that vaccuum.

Here’s an idea, let’s get some politicians in power who will not takes bribes.  Even crazier, maybe those politicians can create a business environment that allows smaller businesses to thrive and force the larger businesses to but their time and effort to innovation and providing superior services to the customer.

McDonald’s burgers are actually the result of retired dairy cattle … yummmmmmmmmm

i work at a place called Monogram Meat Snacks in martinsville va … and we dont put urea in slim jim meat snacks when it is made, but yes we do use the mechanically separated chicken, big huge combos of it , and we also use red meat to make it, as it is also added spices and such, so before you bash something,… make sure you know what you are talking about !!!

GE bigwig Jeffrey Imalt had several WH meetings with obama,  GE also was a big doner to his 08 campaign.  I would imagine that’s why they could skip out on taxes.  All a bunch of crooks and theives!

“…. snitch on there brothers”  maybe you meant “their”

Never heard of Accelerated Degree. Do you have any stats from a credible source that someone has heard of?

Until you do, I’ll believe the videos I’ve seen on CBS, MSNBC, CNN and elsewhere showing those Obamavilles in 24/7 populated status all over the country. I’ll believe the pictures I’ve seen in the newspapers about the tons of trash your environmentally-aware Luddites have strewn everywhere they go. I’ll believe the police blotters from law-enforcement departments about the country recording the drug use, theft, vandalism, illegal trespass and other boorish behavior exhibited by these fine upstanding citizens you so staunchly defend.

Now, please take some advice: Occupy a job, or occupy Parris Island. Otherwise, just go away and be quiet. Let the vast majority of Americans continue to work and contribute to a country that puts up with your childish stunts.

Can’t stand to watch Letterman.  Even worse is that Bill Mahr,  a disgusting human being in my opinion. 

I often think back to the Pioneers who crossed this Country in the 1800′s when I think life is too tough.  They indured extermly hard times,  can you imagine what they went through? Riding in a wagon or walking for a thousand miles. The threat of attack by Indians,  or death from illness or childbirth.   But they didn’t cry and whine about, it,   they pushed on and didn’t give up.    They would be ashamed of how pansy azzed we have become!    Life is not fair,  never has been and never will be.  It’s just the way it is!

A major in BS

Did the police fine them for littering?

“Hahahahahaha…that’s funny right there, I don’t care who you are.”  I love this.  Hit them where it hurts.  Go get a job deadbeats.  I don’t care how many actually work at McDonald’s, I don’t eat there.  Besides, these people don’t want to work, they want it all given to them: income, food, housing, college, etc., why should they work for anything.  Obama, Soros, and the other Dems who support these gangs of stinky, rotten, lazy, punks will see to it that they get most of what they ask for as long as they march.  I say bring out the water canons, bug spray, disinfectant, and whatever else you need to “clean up” and “run off” these bums.

Did you know when my parents were raised on farms in the twenties and thirties they killed home fed pigs and did not waste anything from the pig, but shared with neighbors and cooked and ate everything.  The skin was used to make cracklings, the inteatines were cleaned and used to incase sausage made from everything from the pig, even the blood was kept to make blood stew which was very tasty.  You’ve never known real hunger have you?  They had no money to buy and no store near by anyway.  Some children today only have a mcdonalds to get their food and thank God for that. My dad is 96 and is still here today eating anything and still makes a garden.

You know I read thru all of the bickering and all I can say is if we the people dont come together and provide a solution we are doomed.I am a high school dropout and have worked const. all my life and made a good living.I do know that I didnt need a college prof. teaching me socialist propagnda and  weed out my common sense.I think we all can agree that are system is broken not failed.And I attribute that to the educated idiots we voted into office or that got voted in by other ei’s.But bigger government is not the answer they caused all this because they ignored the will of the people they are supposed to serve.So let the people take the power back and make them take a 50% pay cut because we the people say and we are your boss or there is the door.Less government and ss which was a democrat idea to get more from us needs to be dealt with.And the opportunity to succeed to be preserved.And for these that think they are owed something to get of there butts and find work. I am 54 and I found work had to go 1500 miles from my family but it is all about survival.Oh yeah am working for almost half what I got paid in Cali.But the cost of living is cheaper.Give me Liberty or Give me Death

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I beg to differ with you on your description of a typical Libertarian.
#1. I happen to be a Libertarian. My daddy didn’t pay for my education college education. I did while working a full time job (50 hours a week) and going to school on my 3 days off per week.
#2. I worked on my daddy’s farm until I got old enough to leave home because he didn’t pay but room and board.
#3. I’ve worked all my life and earned enough money to pay for a car, house and my food and I even managed to save a little bit. I’d say I was a typical Libertarian, since someone who has been given everything their whole lives is either a Republican or a Democrat.

That should be good enough to be considered a productive citizen of this country. Mostly however, what I end up with is jack-booted assholes trying to catch citizens speeding so they can give them a ticket so the government can get it’s hands on more of the people’s money. I get government officials trying to tell me what to do with my life, my land, my vehicles and at the end of the day trying to tell me what I can or cannot eat, watch or do in my spare time. I’m fucking tired of it and that makes me a Libertarian.

I say pour a port a potty on them. The idiots ! Go home change your under ware and take that application and get a job! There only going to push the police state into acting faster, stupid fools ! occupy fools go home!

What else would they sell? Organically-grown hippie-pleasing couscous? Go away.

You understand that the things they were rebelling against in Russia are the VERY SAME things you want to bring here to the United States now, right? It’s interesting that you’d use that as an example.

Here’s the difference between Russians rejecting Communism and what your “Occupiers” are doing right now: Communism had essentially made it so that everything- EVERYTHING- belonged to the government. Because if you give everything to the government, they can TOTALLY be trusted to give it all back in some form, to “redistribute” it as needed. Because giving them that ultimate power over the nation’s capital won’t in ANY way corrupt any good intentions they may have ever had, RIIIIGHT? Read the news sometime.

So those protesting Communism, in using Soviet presses and working in Soviet factories and eating Soviet food, were using the only means at their disposal. It was ALL “Soviet.” (But that was “for the good of the collective.”) Here in the United States, people are allowed to own things and profit from their own ingenuity and labor. (At least until your precious liberals take over.)

By the way, nobody has to typecast you people. You stand out there holding up signs demanding that your credit card debt (that you racked up over spring break) and your college tuition debt (for a degree that will never land you a job that pays a living wage but makes you “feel good”) be canceled. You stand out there holding signs advocating “eating the rich.” Your every sentiment, every remark, echoes nothing more than the conviction that you are entitled to the fruit of others’ labor, for no other reason than that they have more than you do.

“The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without
knowing how it happened.” ~Norman Thomas, six-time U.S. presidential candidate for the Socialist Party.

My job didn’t ship overseas because I created it! Why should those businesses stay here? They are over regulated, over taxed and under appreciated by people like you who believe they exist only to give you a job. I have no slave master because I have no debt, nor will I. I also have a 2 year supply of food and alternative currency when ours tanks! If you live below your means, then you too can live debt free, but I’m sure you believe you DESERVE everything now and that somebody else should pay for it.

Me and millions of other will continue to eat there!
McDonalds has great food. Their French fries are the best anywhere!
Say what you want, folks are NOT going to stop eating at McDonalds!!
Bill Gates is quoted as saying, “flipping burgers at McDonalds is not below
Your dignity”

Fall off a moving bus. Please.

What makes me mad is that about half the taxpayers ( and by definition they aren’t) pay no taxes at all.

And THEN they get a “tax refund” because of this stupid Earned Income Tax Credit.
Yep, the people that DO pay taxes have to carry the entire load  PLUS give a “refund ” to those that didn’t pay a damned dime.
And the ones that dropped out of high school, did nothing to better themselves or knocked up or got knocked up are the very ones that are doing all the bitching.

Instead of playing by the rules they broke all the rules , disobeyed their parents, (yes even the stupidest parents tell their daughter to keep their knees together and the boys the keep it in their pants) and now they expect to be forgiven and get some kind of “help” from society.
I am sick of it and sick of carrying their dumb asses.

I think that is freaking hilarious!!!!! Time to get out of momma’s basement and say, “You want to upsize that?” LOSERS!!!!!

It represents the 53 percent of Americans who actually pay federal income taxes.

mechanically separated meat occasionally contains small pieces of bone. the USDA is aware of this, as well as some people who damaged their dental work. I eat this stuff to because it’s economical, but eating a real piece of chicken is best of all.

beef steak is always more expensive than ground beef for hamburgers. organic beef is more expensive because the cattle aren’t fed chemical potions and drugs along with their food. factory farming is far removed from what many people think a farm is like.

how did this become a discussion on mickey d’s and corporate taxes?  the point seems to be, the protesters were angered by being given job applications for legitimit jobs.  why would this anger them?  apparently they aren’t hungry enough.  my son, with a college degree, took a job with lowe’s assembling stuff for customers when he lost his job.  he is married with five kids and was willing to do anything to put food on the table.  he has since started his own business and is doing much better.  too many young people are not willing to ‘pay their dues’ and expect ‘womb to tomb’ care from the nanny state we have created.  if they are upset about corporate taxes, or lack there of, they should be protesting congress who created the loopholes that the corporation legally take advangtage of.

It seems a lot of use news reports to justify your “opinions”  The news is rarely about what is factually happening.  I have to go to work now, where I must pee in a cup at random times, in order to recieve my paycheck, from which taxes have been held out.  The same taxes that pay these lazy freeloaders who “occupy” this or that.  Do they have to pee in a cup for thier checks?  NO

I have an idea for you John. Go start a business, produce something that I and others might like and buy and show us the business plan that you came up with to compensate your employees. After a few years of doing this and assuming you survive and thrive, come and show us your blueprint of a successful business that did not exploit your employees.

I thought CERN developed the Internet. You’re probably confused because Al Gore claimed he did, and he was an agent of the govt at the time, but it was really scientists not even in this country. Lesson: Don’t believe everything the Democrats tell you. Also, people complain about jobs shipped out of the country, but did you know those jobs occupied by people who don’t have to sell their bodies on the street? So, I use my products guilt free. And the employment rate wasnt always this bad, even though companies outsourced. There has to be another reason. Stop the insanity!

Organic farming doesn’t mean that chemicals and drugs aren’t used at all as many people think, it just means their use is severely restricted. You’re right on the factory farming thing though. That is just wrong. There’s plenty of available land left in the world to graze cattle on, we don’t need to be subsiding intensive factory farming. In many countries, like Argentina and Brazil, the cattle industry is a main source of earnings. We should be helping them, not putting up barriers.

Why would McDonald’s hire lazy deadbeats?  They could hire Michael Moore, then only one location would suffer.

so con yours and ows solution to ‘evil corporations’ is to eliminate the free market which controlled corporations  and give complete control to the govt which does such a ‘bang up ‘ job with everything else.”corporate propaganda machinces” sounds like you are parroting you marxist professors communist propaganda machine.  OWS is for making sure everyone fails equally rather than having to work to succeed. keep on marching with the hammer and sicle..keep it up…you will find out what rea opression is under the marxist system you keep wanting.

Ha ha. Like traders won’t have their jobs eliminated by European computers in the next year and a half.

I say contact the ACLU.  They are targeting peaceful protesters. They are harrassing and poluting.

Haha very true. But they wouldn’t be able to handle anything unless is was dropped on their head.

I think it was a very gracious act

LOL! I’d be more concerned about them handling my credit card!

Even so, why didn’t they stop it?

Even so, why didn’t they stop it, huh?

They support what they think the OWS movement is, looking at themselves in a mirror. Any politician who attempts to enlist that support will, much like Dorian Grey with the portrait of his age, end up stirring up the truth of what they really are.

thats great mabey some of these dirtbags will try to get a job i dought it tho.. they dont want to work they want to party an tattoo there face

could be worse… could be Soilent Green now made with people

Who would want to work at MacDonald’s? They have been found out to be replacing meat product with Meal worms in their burgars. After this stunt I guess we can protest / boycott MacDonald’s till it’s death! Let this be a notice to you big wigs. Give me liberty or give me death is the spirit of TRUE Americans & MacDonald is now on our shit list. Good job. I guess they have no idea how fickle the public is. I pray for the worst Black Friday in the history of our country & pray all the food corporation who seek to run this nation eat be the 1st to die an economic death. With all my heart and mind I pray this today.

Who would want to work at Macdonalds? They have been found out to be feeding Meal worms in their food. After this stunt I guess we can protest Macdonalds to death!

Just like a liberal find any excuse not to get a job,McDonald’s is secondary in this story actually they had little to do with it other than the application,would you have felt better if they were applications from wal-mart

Defined by the federal government? So. They (FDA) also believe milk does a body good. (Blood and puss)
No doubt, there are nutrients in dairy that the body needs. These are available in food sources without the Blood and puss. The problem is that there are no large corporations to stroke politicians payoffs with fresh fruits and vegetables.

anything from a liberal website is never the truth or fact’s..because they don’t know the definition of the words..it has been proven by msnbc,nbc,abc,cbs,cnn,that they make their own news ..not once has any one of these media channel’s provided any truth or fact’s

mud,what do you call nuts on the wall?? wall nuts..what do you call nuts on your chest???chest nuts??what do you call nuts on your chin?? a di$$ in your mouth…

carl, you are going to be in such trouble when your mommie finds out you’ve been using her computer.

It has become incredibly easy thanks to easy access of the Internet and online future trading.

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Kind of ironic that the Chicago Board of Trade is so flamboyant in their arrogance…but they’d rely on the 99% to save them if the cumulative effect of their flaming douche baggery ignited their building on fire! 

Now I certainly don’t condone any violence by people, unless the government has become authoritarian, and the people need to fight to free themselves…but it’s rather telling that Chicago’s occupy movement has by all accounts been less abrasive and in your face than virtually any other occupy movement in the US…yet here are the human trash known as the 1% who have taken up the slack and gloated with glee at the misery of their fellow citizens!

The 99% movement needs to evolve…you don’t need apologists for the 1% to join your side…you just need to make sure that you all make your votes count…and expel any political garbage (ie. most Republicans) through the democratic process!