so why draw a line for one groups sensitivity and not another? ”

Because liberals are hypocrites.

The South Park creators are not liberals. Who are you talking about?

Jon Bershad says:
April 22, 2010 at 10:33 am

The South Park creators are not liberals. Who are you talking about?”

LOL

You are one dense liberal!

Not too dense to use a Google search.

“Conservative critics should pay closer attention to what South Park so irreverently jeers at and mocks. As the show’s co-creator, 32-year-old Matt Stone, sums it up: ‘I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.’”

-http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_4_were_not_losing.html

Jon Bershad says:
April 22, 2010 at 10:39 am

LOL

The article asks: “so why draw a line for one groups sensitivity and not another? ”

I say, ‘you cant’ do that’ “Because liberals are hypocrites.”

Where did I say Matt and Trey were liberals?

Read the article next time.

I did read the article. That’s why I asked who you were talking about when you said “liberals are hypocrites”. If you didn’t mean Matt and Trey then that’s fine. But since you quoted the the statement “South Park creators are not liberals” in your response, I assumed that I was right and that’s who you were talking about.
So who DO you mean?

Matt and Trey must be conservative, since they don’t bow to the rules of political correctness. They’re allowed to make fun of everyone. Liberals are only allowed to make fun of white males. All others are off limits, or the person making fun is labeled a racist.

While left-leaning folks do tend to strive for political correctness more than their friends on the right, the Muhammed issue is something both sides stay away from. Remember that, only two days ago, Bill O’Reilly said he himself would be afraid to show an image of Muhammed.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-south-park/

You and Munch are right that this is a problem that’s usually more prevalent on the left, however the Muhammed hypocrisy pointed out in this article is one that crosses party lines.

I’ve classified the South Park fellows as conservative, ever since they went after Michael Moore with such ferocity, when they felt that they were misrepresented in his Columbine film.

Jon Bershad says:
April 22, 2010 at 10:46 am
But since you quoted the the statement “South Park creators are not liberals” I assumed that I was right and that’s who you were talking about.

So who DO you mean?”

You must be new here.

When you use someone else’ s comment , you put them in quotes to indicate that you are replying to what someone else said.

Hence, “he South Park creators are not liberals. Who are you talking about?”

I was referring to what you said. My point is that if there is going to be any issues about this SP segment, it would most likely will come from liberals. For example, they scream racism on just about anything a Conservative says about Obama , but they are so silent on comments like these from liberals:

A few years ago, he (Obama) would be serving us coffee.” — Bill Clinton

” He (Obama) doesn’t sound like a Ne–o unless he wants to.” Senator Harry Reid

“He ( Obama) couldn’t sell watermelons to….” Dan Rather

Jon says:

however the Muhammad hypocrisy pointed out in this article is one that crosses party lines.”

I think most people are aware of the insanity of the fundamentalist Muslims and what they have done to those who have made fun of the Prophet. I agree with Bill- why entice a barking dog?There are bigger fish to fry than making jokes about or caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

As Dennis Miller said” These guys are so crazy, they issue Fatwahs over pizza toppings!”

There is no “there” there in mocking Muhammad so why do it?

Exactly, Munch. South Park makes fun of everyone. The left isn’t allowed to do that. Political correctness is very constraining.

I think you are both oversimplifying this. It’s not a left or right issue. Not everything is. People aren’t afraid to show Muhammed because they don’t want to offend Muslims, they’re afraid because (like conservative, Bill O’Reilly) they don’t want violent retribution from Islamic extremists.
This isn’t a political issue. This is a religion issue. It doesn’t matter who is liberal and who is conservative. It matters that an American television network is too afraid to show a cartoon because of terrorists.

Jon Bershad- like Comedy Central- they just announced that they have censored that episode!

Jon- I think you are both oversimplifying this. It’s not a left or right issue. Not everything is.”

Again, where did I say the issue of showing the Prophet was a right or left issue?? I never did.

I said in response of the articles question , “so why draw a line for one group’s sensitivity and not another’s? that if someone finds it offensive , it would most likely be someone from the left and the left has shown it’s hypocrisy on things like this repeatedly.

And BTW, Comedy Central has now decided to censor this episode of SP- so there goes your argument.

Jon, liberals do practice political correctness, but you have a point about the radical Muslims. There’s also a fear factor involved. But if we give in to the “If you call me violent, I’ll kill you”, threats, then we’re allowing terrorists to censor what we watch. Kudos to the South Park boys for giving them the middle finger.

Much – I knew about the Comedy Central thing (check the byline on the Mediaite article) and I think it’s awful.

I’m not trying to sound like I’m attacking you guys. It just seems like instantly going to left vs. right talk is unnecessary here. And you may not have said that this was a political thing, but you implied it by making your first response about liberals.
Comedy Central may have mostly liberal executives. They may have mostly conservative executives. They probably have a mixture of both. When they made the choice to censor the episode, they weren’t thinking about political correctness (if they were, the black face scene wouldn’t have gotten through) they were most likely thinking about the safety of their employees. While that’s a commendable thing, the fact that, here in America, a piece of satire was defanged so as not to anger terrorists. And that’s a pretty scary thing.

ps. I’m gonna move on over to the more recent South Park article now. Mostly because I like articles I write to get a lot of page clicks. :)

Joh, they were most likely thinking about the safety of their employees.”

That is what I was arguing in my prior post. There is no reason to entice barking dogs, and it shows a rather large blind spot at CC if they have come to this conclusion JUST NOW!

Re-post:

I think most people are aware of the insanity of the fundamentalist Muslims and what they have done to those who have made fun of the Prophet. I agree with Bill- why entice a barking dog?There are bigger fish to fry than making jokes about or caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad.

As Dennis Miller said” These guys are so crazy, they issue Fatwahs over pizza toppings!”

There is no “there” there in mocking Muhammad so why do it?

I see no problem at all with this.

Rex
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They also had Buddha snorting cocaine. The point was (as I think Ms. Van Kirk says) to offend everyone… and then when they got bleeped, or people complained… they could point to the rest of the episode and say, “SEE! We offended everyone! Why is this guy, whom we didn’t actually say or do anything nasty to/about, supposed to get special treatment?”

Start to finish, I think Matt and Trey had a plan. Nice job guys.

Yes. ImNotBlue, I think you’re right. I’m pretty sure that they wanted to be able to go back to the episode and be able to say “look at all the other things you let us get away with. why is this ok but other things have to be censored.”

Obviously there are issues of security involved, which I see and respect. But part of what I thought was so great about this episode (besides finding out ultimately who Cartman’s father was and having it not be a complete comedic bust) was that it pointed these things out to us. Why is this ok but other items are not?

Lindsay Van Kirk says:
April 22, 2010 at 3:02 pm

Agreed!

Although, as a ginger kid myself… I was highly offended by Cartman’s reaction.

because the suits at Viacom are pansies – who actually get scared by all that blather.

I guess Joh Stewart is too busy defending the world against Fox News to comment on something happening on his own network. He is on Comedy Central, isn’t he? I haven’t watched him in a while.

I always thought he was funny but, as I said, I haven’t seen him in a while. Same with South Park. My son, God bless his soul, loved South Park.

“Why is this ok but other items are not?”

Because black people don’t threaten to kill cartoonists over black face in a satirical context. It’s not that complicated. And it’s not an instance of ‘liberal hypocrisy’ either. If Al Sharpton was threatening to kill the creators over black face, the Comedy Central execs would kowtow just the same.

RichS- are you talking about that genius, Jon Stewart? The Stewart that all the young liberals look up to? The one who knows everything? The infallible Jon?

I saw his show yesterday. As he was concluding an interview with an author whose book was about the coming population crash, that genius Jon said , “the Mayans said the world would end in 2012 but how prescient where they; they didn’t see Cortes coming.”

Oh, really, Jon the genius? The Mayans didn’t see Cortes coming?

Maybe that was because the Mayan civilization faded out around the 900s and Cortes wasn’t in Mexico until around 1518!!!!!!

Maybe that explains it, jon, the boy genius?

Munch, your mastery of wikipedia is admirable, but try to get through the entire opening paragraph next time.

qawsed says:
April 22, 2010 at 6:06 pm

Munch, your mastery of wikipedia is admirable, but try to get through the entire opening paragraph next time.

Sorry, troll, a HS student would have known that, but your hero didn’t!

You are obviously suffering from Clue Deficit Disorder.

Qawsed- Sorry a HS student would have known that.”

Sorry, qawsed, I just assumed you had graduated from HS. Sorry!