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Awkward And Wonderful: Dane Cook Confronts Louis C.K. About Rumors He Stole C.K.’s Jokes

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It’s rare to watch a sitcom that offers both a a good laugh or two or seventeen in addition to making you think about the nature of comedy, attribution, image and the creative process and making you forget that you are, by virtue of your carefully crafted demographic, supposed to really like Louis C.K. and very much dislike Dane Cook.

In this scene from Louie, C.K. visits Cook to ask for a favor — Lady Gaga tickets for his daughter’s birthday. Cook uses the opportunity to confront his colleague about his role in perpetuating rumors that Cook stole some of C.K.’s material. Along the way, he remarks on the public perception of both comics — Louis as a “comic’s comic,” perhaps offering something a little more inaccessible, a little more challenging, and Dane, by contrast, as a people’s comic, a brand, a “sell out.” On one level it’s definitely “funny because it’s true,” but it’s also funny because I am cringing and imagining being in that room during that conversation is making me break out in nervous laughter. And this is probably because this scene, while carefully constructed, seems very honest. It seems like a conversation two people in a creative field have had, are having and will continue to have. Except for the “itchy asshole” part, perhaps.

The whole thing is crafted beautifully, making its points without ever being preachy or, worse, boring. Check it out, via FX:

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  • Anonymous

    Too funny…..

  • Anonymous

    Couple of emetic, egregious creeps. The only oddball missing is Matt Damon.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    I may be wrong, but my impression is that like Curb, Louie is simply outlined and the actual dialogue is ad-libbed. If that’s the case, then it the scene really was “two people in a creative field” having a conversation and what takes it to the next level is that by having him guest and the above scene, Louie is actually helping Cook address the critics, offering him a hand and instead of going on YouTube, they put it on television to make the clip available.

    I could watch Louie when it airs, but like most of my entertainment television choices, I wait until it gets to Hulu (on a 30-day delay) or on the networks’ websites and though I’ll undoubtedly watch the episode when it gets into my queue, I appreciate the sample.

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    I absolutely agree with the review. Brilliant construction and deconstruction of comedy and politics within that business.

  • http://twitter.com/TommyBennett Tom Bennett

    Oh, and of course the conservatives here won’t bother to appraise it properly since intelligent comedy is not in the right wing wheelhouse.

  • Anonymous

    I’ve always wanted to see the two of them address the controversy.  And that was exactly how it should’ve been addressed.  I’m not a Dane Cook, I’ve never really found him that funny, but I’ve always respected the amount of work he put in and his intelligence with using the social media thing to market himself before people were doing it.  I even respect him a little more after this scene.  Plus, the “you’re not the only one who gets an itchy a**hole” was the cherry on the top of this scene.

  • Anonymous

    I’m not definite on this, but from the interviews I’ve read with folks like Pamela Adlon about how much of an exacting perfectionist CK is about the show, I find it unlikely that it’s as improvised as Curb is if at all. CK views this show as much more of a series of short films and, with all the artistic flourishes on the show, it just seems impossible that he’d be doing that with just an outline.

    That being said, I’m very interested to know how much input both Cook and Joan Rivers a few weeks ago had in their scenes.

  • Nature Freak

    When it comes to stealing jokes, Dane Cook has nothing on Milton Berle.

    Louis C.K. and Dane Cook are both funny One can enjoy both!

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Frankenstein

    Appraise comedy? My god you drip of pretentiousness. Comedy is about making someone laugh, not sticking your head in your ass and get high off your fumes.

    Yes everyone, Tom Burnett loves the smell of his own farts:

    http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104282/smuggy-san-francisco-town

    And as far as Louie being this transcendently funny show, Louie is fine, sometimes clever, but doesn’t hold a candle to Curb. Louie tends to drag at times, and tends to arrive to the conclusion you thought it would come to. Curb sometimes is predictable but rarely plods along about anything.

    Like when Louie visited his 95 year old aunt, who didnt see her dropping dead from a mile away? It would have been more clever had she NOT died. Just sayin.

    And was it really necessary to take a cheap shot on conservatives? All it does is make you look like an arrogant prick who thinks hes smarter and can get comedy better than everyone else because of his political persuasion. What horseshit.

  • Nature Freak

    Many conservatives (not all) are dour Calvinists or have a similar disposition.

    A absolute black and white world view does not always lend to seeing the humor in things.
    And anyway, “The Devil finds work for idle hands”.
    So they think.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    I ran a quick search over my history to look for what had given me the impression and when that failed, I punched a couple of keywords into Google which produced this Hulu embed of Louie discussing his writing process.

    You’re right. Louie is much more scripted than Curb and I learned something from our comment exchange, but still, he says that the script may change after casting and again during filming, plus the actors sometimes want to do their own rewrites..

    I have enough respect for Cook’s integrity that I doubt he said anything he didn’t want to say and it’s noticeable that he (or his character) didn’t offer any kind of apology or admission. Instead, Cook got his say and we heard Louie’s analogy of the rocket as his perspective. So, I’d say that though it may have been better defined than an ad-lib, the scene still qualifies as something of a conversation and by calling upon Cook, Louie offers what could be called a truce and both of their needs were met.

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Frankenstein

    The problem with Dane Cook is that he’s hard to connect with.

    Comics need to be over the top absurd or make you feel like you know can relate.

    Louie CK does an excellent everyman 40′s single dad routine. 

    Dane Cook comes off as the guy who would steal your girlfriend. 

  • Anonymous

    God, I love this show.

  • Sean68

    Best thing Alex has ever posted here. There also a video out there of Joe Rogan confronting Carlos Mencia on just this issue; and it ain’t scripted.

  • Nature Freak

    Good observation. Each one has a distinct personality
    “Dane Cook comes off as the guy who would steal your girlfriend.”

    Maybe that is why I find Dane Cook funny. I am 40 and have no interest in ever having kids (Conservatives should be happy to hear this!). Dane appeals to my “evil” side. He has a bit of a “rogue” persona.
    LOL!

    Louis C.K. I still find funny, but he has a different lifestyle going on.

  • Nature Freak

    Carlos Mencia came to my mind as well. Southpark even featured it on an episode.
    http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s13e05-fishsticks
    Comedians “borrow” jokes. Always have.

  • Anonymous

    Not a fan of the Dane Cook.  Just throwing that out there.

  • Nature Freak

    Joe Rogan Fronts Out Carlos Mencia

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx9E4nPUhaA

  • Nature Freak

    Lots of people dislike Dane Cook.
    Sometimes I really find him funny. Sometimes i do not.
    He seems to be an outcast. In some way I respect that.

  • http://twitter.com/BarneyFranken Barney Frankenstein

    Well Dane definitely has a following so your not alone..except maybe in your demographic.

    Most of his fans are college age. lol.

  • Guest

    Honestly, that episode wasn’t amazing. If you want a good episode look for the one with him and his mother when she comes to visit. It’s pretty nice.

  • Hugo Daun

    Rogan is one funny dude!

  • http://twitter.com/cek100248 charles kirtley

    If these two know each other’s acts as well as they seem to, they both have far to much time on their hands.

  • http://twitter.com/SoapyJohnson Dirk Dachs

    Even fortune cookies are saying Dane Cook isn’t funny … http://placeitonluckydan.com/2011/07/recession-fortune-cookies/

  • Anonymous

    the fact that Dane Cook agreed to be in the show and doing this bit clearly demonstrates to me a solid and respectful relationship between the two – I like them both for the most part, although each bugs me too on occasion

  • Michael T.

    Louis C.K. is absolutely correct …. there are an awful lot of people who hate Dane Cook.

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