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Beck Warns Against Those Darn Chaos-Loving Young People And Their Darn Facebook

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Glenn Beck is certainly not thrilled with the successful revolution in Egypt. While on MSNBC, Chris Matthews and the field reporters in Egypt were giddily wondering whether other Middle Eastern regimes might fall, doom and gloom Beck was praying that it wouldn’t happen. All of this fear also turned the episode into another one of Beck’s classic “Young People Just Don’t Get It” shows as he tackled Google exec and Egyptian protest organizer Wael Ghonim as well as the terrors of social media.

This began when Beck read off Ghonim’s quote that we should “ask Facebook” to see where the cries of protest would be heard next. Soon the Fox News host was flipping through scary Facebook pages promoting “days of rage” throughout the Middle East. Then he let loose with this:

“The most important aspect to understand is this is not spontaneous and it will cascade throughout the Middle East. I hope to God that it does not but I bet it touches Europe and then the world. It will not have a singular ideology but it will mean revolution, destruction, and change and it will be led by young people. Because anyone over 30 knows that chaos never leads to anything good.”

Don’t trust anyone under 30? It’s official. Glenn Beck is the anti-rock star.

Whatever you feel about Beck’s Egypt coverage, it all goes out the window once he starts going on these “Hooray for Old People!” tangents. It stops sounding like news. It stops sounding like opinion. It only sounds like a man condescending his audience.

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  • The Real Royal King

    It’s the End of Days. Buy gold. Use gold to buy seeds.

  • BFD

    “I hope to God that it does not but I bet it touches Europe and then the world.”

    LOL at Beck making Freedom sound like a child molester.

  • CosmosDan

    BFD said:
    “I hope to God that it does not but I bet it touches Europe and then the world.”

    LOL at Beck making Freedom sound like a child molester.

    LOL!! stop my sides hurt. You’re killing me today.

  • Hawk11

    Does his wife start every morning for him by peeing in his cheerios?

  • bobmoses

    Hmm. Looks like Mediaite has become a full time Fox basher.

    We already have Media Matters to obsess exclusively over Fox. Do we really need another version of that partisan dreck?

  • The Real Royal King

    CosmosDan said:
    LOL!! stop my sides hurt. You’re killing me today.

    Whoever he is or they are, all the people he is or they are, he is or they are very good at times.

  • IndyGal2011

    Beck needs his binky. Where’s mommy when you need her?

  • minorityreport

    I am guessing beck did not take his medication today and his crazimeter has just shot up!!. This guy is the SI unit of derangement and stupidity just like you would measure distance in miles. Glen is a few weeks from eating dirt from the garbage bin. How does foxnews continue to allow this loon to continue to embarrass the network even with the low standards of foxnews. Cmon , Beck gotta be kidding me. this guy is on drugssssssss

  • CosmosDan

    I tend to agree with Beck. Having a 30 year dictator is no excuse for chaos and nothing good can come of it.

    Thank God we realized that here in this country and avoided chaos throughout our history.

  • Big Eddie

    The usual boobs with the same insults on every Glenn Beck thread are unlikely to have ever watched him . Or if they did , they couldn’ t grasp the information .

  • CosmosDan

    The Real Royal King said:
    Whoever he is or they are, all the people he is or they are, he is or they are very good at times.

    That’s easy for you to say.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    LOL!

    That’s how pathetically comical the rank HYPOCRISY from the American Left continues unabated.

    You didn’t hear Word One from the Lefties about Mubarak’s Regime, freedom, or anything else – including the 2 years that Obama supported the Regime.

    Then, all of sudden, they’re hoopin’ and hollerin’ and bashing the US, as if THEY played some role in this uprising!
    As usual, it’s all about image and feelings for those unable to do the heavy lifting of REASON – but that’s why we have the Democratic Party!

  • possibly

    Beck has fallen apart this week. Now he’s full-time crazy,

  • Garth

    Big Eddie said:
    The usual boobs with the same insults on every Glenn Beck thread are unlikely to have ever watched him . Or if they did , they couldn’ t grasp the information .

    Big Eddie – you seem to grasp what the Rodeo Clown is saying like no one else. You need to dig a very deep survival hole and get in…pronto!! You probably have not heard as you are illiterate, but EVIL is coming.

  • Garth

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    LOL!

    That’s how pathetically comical the rank HYPOCRISY from the American Left continues unabated.

    You didn’t hear Word One from the Lefties about Mubarak’s Regime, freedom, or anything else – including the 2 years that Obama supported the Regime.

    Then, all of sudden, they’re hoopin’ and hollerin’ and bashing the US, as if THEY played some role in this uprising!
    As usual, it’s all about image and feelings for those unable to do the heavy lifting of REASON – but that’s why we have the Democratic Party!

    How do you on the Pathetically Stupid see things?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    BFD said:
    “I hope to God that it does not but I bet it touches Europe and then the world.” LOL at Beck making Freedom sound like a child molester.

    Lets hope it’s freedom we see.

    Nice way to cherry pick this quote from the whole show. Beck had alot more things to say and facts to back him up. But hey, who cares about facts right?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Eric, that is what they do EVERY day here. That’s how they roll here at Mediaite.

  • Socialist

    Facebook=freedom of speech .. for now.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    Eric Larson said:
    Lets hope it’s freedom we see.

    Nice way to cherry pick this quote from the whole show. Beck had alot more things to say and facts to back him up. But hey, who cares about facts right?

    Well, what else did he say and what facts backed him up?

  • Garth

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Eric, that is what they do EVERY day here. That’s how they roll here at Mediaite.

    Poor baby. Is someone forcing you to come to this site?

  • timzank

    Eric Larson said:
    Lets hope it’s freedom we see. Nice way to cherry pick this quote from the whole show. Beck had alot more things to say and facts to back him up. But hey, who cares about facts right?

    It’s never about the over arching issue here, it’s always a snarky headline, a few out of context quotes, with a liberal dose of condescension attacking anything he says as that of a crazy man.

    It’s not even a critique, it’s just a bash fest, but hey, that’s what they’re good at.

  • BFD

    Eric Larson said:
    Beck had alot more things to say

    Did he say “Go to Hell!” again? lolol

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    crumbcake says:
    Well, what else did he say and what facts backed him up?

    Watch the show for yourself, if you care. I’m quite certain you don’t though

  • jo hoochie

    Garth said:
    How do you on the Pathetically Stupid see things?

    How about closing your computer ,take your medicine and go to bed SarahP….I mean Garth. You never have anything of interest to say anyway.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Say, is Obama gonna give another pretty speech before he cuts energy assistance to the poor? – during one of the coldest winters on record?

    And how’s the President’s bff, Jeff Immelt doing these days?

    You all remember ole’ Jeff.
    He’s the one who pushed for an end to the flourescent bulb, because he makes the CFL bulbs. The only problem is GE fired 24,000 workers in Cleveland making the old bulbs (they can afford to lose more workers, can’t they?), and shipped those jobs making the new bulbs to, guess where, China; because China’s safety regulations are a lot more friendly to Obama’s bff Jeff Immelt than Cleveland’s.

    Can you say “Hope & Change” in Mandarin?

    This is the character of the person in the White House – and the lemmings who support him.

  • Hawk11

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Eric, that is what they do EVERY day here. That’s how they roll here at Mediaite.

    And you defend him EVERY minute of EVERY day of EVERY week and EVERY word blah blah blah…..

    Glenn Beck does and says everything right. Glen Beck tells the truth about everything and no one else knows what they’re talking about.

    He’s a cult leader, and you’re part of his cult.
    When’s the spaceship coming?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    Well, what else did he say and what facts backed him up?

    Watch the show. Do your own homework, Or hell read the NY times which confirmed today much of what Beck said about who was behind much of this revolt. Don’t just bash when you are uninformed.

  • Garth

    timzank said:
    It’s never about the over arching issue here, it’s always a snarky headline, a few out of context quotes, with a liberal dose of condescension attacking anything he says as that of a crazy man.

    It’s not even a critique, it’s just a bash fest, but hey, that’s what they’re good at.

    Here’s the issue. Glenn Beck is either a con artist, nuts or a rodeo clown.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Hawk says:

    And you defend him EVERY minute of EVERY day of EVERY week and EVERY word blah blah blah…..

    Actually I don’t. You just proved you don’t read my comments.

  • timzank

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    Well, what else did he say and what facts backed him up?

    Watch the show next time, then comment. It’s no one elses job to read the transcripts to you. Oh wait, if you’re a liberal you probably think it is someone elses job. Does your mother feed you also?

  • Annie Oakley

    Quite frankly, I find it disturbing that a “Google executive” has been the driving force behind the uprising in Egypt, since Google has been so closely allied in both fundraising and supporting the Obama administration. I’d feel the same way if a G.E./NBC(now Comcast) executive were the driving force behind an overthrow of a government. Given how ubiquitous Google has become and how the majority of people use Google’s gmail (which Google can access), Google’s involvement is concerning.

  • timzank

    Garth said:
    Here’s the issue. Glenn Beck is either a con artist, nuts or a rodeo clown.

    That’s your opinion of him. You should watch the show and consider the content sometime.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    Hawk11 said:
    And you defend him EVERY minute of EVERY day of EVERY week and EVERY word blah blah blah….. Glenn Beck does and says everything right. Glen Beck tells the truth about everything and no one else knows what they’re talking about. He’s a cult leader, and you’re part of his cult.When’s the spaceship coming?

    Beck is night right all the time. Nobody is. But to pass judgement without watching him or doing some research on your own is a bit silly if you ask me. I don’t always agree with Beck but thats what the point of debate is supposed to be. You don’t just call someone crazy and then move on.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Eric says:

    You don’t just call someone crazy and then move on.

    Actually, that’s ALL they do. They are drive by experts!

  • timzank

    Hawk11 said:
    And you defend him EVERY minute of EVERY day of EVERY week and EVERY word blah blah blah….. Glenn Beck does and says everything right. Glen Beck tells the truth about everything and no one else knows what they’re talking about. He’s a cult leader, and you’re part of his cult.When’s the spaceship coming?

    People with ideas unlike yours just scare the sh*t outta you don’t they?

  • Garth

    timzank said:
    That’s your opinion of him. You should watch the show and consider the content sometime.

    It’s not only my opinion. I have watched the “show” and to be honest I couldn’t stop laughing. I know it’s hard to believe but there are people who take the rodeo clown seriously. I’m not sure which is more hilarious.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    Eric Larson said:
    Watch the show. Do your own homework, Or hell read the NY times which confirmed today much of what Beck said about who was behind much of this revolt. Don’t just bash when you are uninformed.

    timzank said:
    Watch the show next time, then comment. It’s no one elses job to read the transcripts to you. Oh wait, if you’re a liberal you probably think it is someone elses job. Does your mother feed you also?

    Damn, I just asked someone to provide details on a comment. No bashing just asking. Sorry I didn’t watch the show, but my job rates higher on the to do list.

  • BFD

    Eric Larson said:
    You don’t just call someone crazy and then move on.

    I think everyone agrees this is only act one of a continuing play, but only Henny Glenny has mapped out the remaining acts before intermission even started.

    That’s what makes him crazy, you see.

  • im_lovin_it

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    Damn, I just asked someone to provide details on a comment. No bashing just asking. Sorry I didn’t watch the show, but my job rates higher on the to do list.

    That’s the thing I keep getting here. Everyone says that the left just has frothing at the mouth, uncontrollable rabies like hate for people like Palin or Beck. Yet, if you ask anybody to ever provide some support or analysis on what they say you get your head ripped off. I thought all the crazy talk yelling without facts was our job!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    What’s really concerning is that this Administration doesn’t have a clue what’s happening, or what to do – and that’s just the ECONOMY!

    Forget about the Middle East.

    Does Panetta know Mubarack resigned yet?
    LMAO!

  • Davo

    Jon Bershad said:
    All of this fear also turned the episode into another one of Beck’s classic “Young People Just Don’t Get It” shows

    Did you watch the video you supplied, Jon? Or are you just like the Democrat posters here who are in a bash-frenzy over something they know nothing about?

    The video has nothing to do with dissing young people. Its focus is on Obama as an accomplice to the world radical movement.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Eric-Larson/1589499840 Eric Larson

    Who is Salacious Crumb said:
    Damn, I just asked someone to provide details on a comment. No bashing just asking. Sorry I didn’t watch the show, but my job rates higher on the to do list.

    If it was an honest question then I am sorry to overreact. but that seems to be the thing many posters here do. They come in uninformed. Yell about how one thing Beck said is crazy and then ignore everything else he has said that is true or come true or is backed up by facts. As I said the NY Times came out today talking about those that were behind the revolt. Just who Beck said was. But everyone said he was crazy. Now we have to wait, hope and pray that everthing over there works out for the best but there are a lot of hands in this mess and many of them are very very dirty.

  • grafxmail7

    OK! Get ready Chicken Little Beck disciples! The Rapture is coming!!!

    Sell everything you own now and buy gold!!!!!

    Buy some of those survival backpacks as well. You’ll need something to eat on the way to heaven!!!!

  • Olby Sucks

    Does Panetta know Mubarack resigned yet?
    LMAO!
    ———-

    obama didn’t even know ’til he saw it on Fox! LOL!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Davo said:
    Did you watch the video you supplied, Jon? Or are you just like the Democrat posters here who are in a bash-frenzy over something they know nothing about? The video has nothing to do with dissing young people. Its focus is on Obama as an accomplice to the world radical movement.

    More and more, I’m beginning to believe Obama’s enmity with traditional American values is revealing him to be a WILLING accomplice.

  • Who is Salacious Crumb

    Eric Larson said:
    If it was an honest question then I am sorry to overreact. but that seems to be the thing many posters here do. They come in uninformed. Yell about how one thing Beck said is crazy and then ignore everything else he has said that is true or come true or is backed up by facts. As I said the NY Times came out today talking about those that were behind the revolt. Just who Beck said was. But everyone said he was crazy. Now we have to wait, hope and pray that everthing over there works out for the best but there are a lot of hands in this mess and many of them are very very dirty.

    Thanks, I’m checking out the times web site.

  • Tricky

    The majority of people don’t use G-mail. For some reason people are using Yahoo, (by a long shot), then something called Hotmail from some company called Microsoft. But Beck is getting crazier, and sooner or later, he is gonna forget to self medicate. What fun.

  • CosmosDan

    Eric Larson said:
    Watch the show. Do your own homework, Or hell read the NY times which confirmed today much of what Beck said about who was behind much of this revolt. Don’t just bash when you are uninformed.

    It isn’t the facts on Beck’s show that are the crux of the problem.

    It”s the abuse of logic in the way he jams them together.

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    No need to apologize Eric, your instincts are correct. It doesn’t matter what evidence you provide liberals here, they dismiss it out of hand if it comes from Beck, EVEN if the NYT’s backs up what he says.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Beck doesn’t get it. Reality has left him behind in his conspiracy laden house of mirrors. Not all middle aged people are insecure with technology. This crisis has shown America how just plain looney tunes Beck is. Only fools journey down the road he travels.

  • Olby Sucks

    armwood

    What were you arrested for? That’s a mugshot, right?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Olby Sucks says:
    armwood

    What were you arrested for? That’s a mugshot, right?

    Suspicion of being an idiot. He was found guilty as charged.

  • ImNotBlue

    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much… but have no problem (or are fond of) other dictators like Chavez, Morales, and Castro.

    I asked this earlier, and only got a few questions in response (which were easily answered), but no answers.

    I’m starting to believe the reason they dislike Mubarak is because they’re just following marching orders from the far-left, and simply believe in being anti-Beck. If Beck says we should be cautious, and concerned about who will eventually take power, the angry left responds with, “Nuh-uh… Beck’s crazy. Egypt will be great!” But not because they know, just because they have committed themselves to always disagreeing with Beck.

    That’s what it is, right? Beck is so evil, they just take the opposite of whatever he says. They don’t know why, which is why they can’t answer the question.

  • Sidhekitten

    Quick, everyone run over and find out what Keith Olbermann has to say, wait we can’t do that yet. Sigh, I am so bummed out. I really miss my hour of rage with KO, Lil Eddie Shultz just does not cut it.

  • ImNotBlue

    And how did Jon come to the conclusion that Beck said “don’t trust anyone under 30?”

    He was saying (in the quote provided) that folks under 30 are too idealistic, and only see in the short term. People over 30 know that their actions today will have effect later. Removing Mubarak today feels good… but if it results in choas in Egypt, the future wil wind up being much worse.

    The reason the United States did so well after the British, is because it had been long planned. They had a framework to govern the people before they removed the monarchy. Without that, the country wouldn’t have been able to succeed in the long term. Starting to make big plans when your in the middle of a storm doesn’t work. What’s so “crazy” about that?

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Annie Oakley said:
    Quite frankly, I find it disturbing that a “Google executive” has been the driving force behind the uprising in Egypt, since Google has been so closely allied in both fundraising and supporting the Obama administration. I’d feel the same way if a G.E./NBC(now Comcast) executive were the driving force behind an overthrow of a government. Given how ubiquitous Google has become and how the majority of people use Google’s gmail (which Google can access), Google’s involvement is concerning.

    Now this is as nutty as Beck. This is not a concern for Americans. Our only concern should be as I stated here on the first day of the crisis is the possibility of the Muslim Brotherhood hijacking the movement. Once conservative pundits raised the same came the syncopates on this jumped on the bandwagon. Once again the same crew defend Beck.

  • OxyCon

    timzank said:
    It’s never about the over arching issue here, it’s always a snarky headline, a few out of context quotes, with a liberal dose of condescension attacking anything he says as that of a crazy man.

    It’s not even a critique, it’s just a bash fest, but hey, that’s what they’re good at.

    ‘Pick the Target, Freeze It, Personalize It and Polarize It.’ – Saul Alinsky,

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    OK – First of all, I’m not sure what Beck bases the idea that Ahmadinejad is “celebrating the uprising in Egypt” because it’s been reported by several outlets including the “Wall Street Journal” that they’re jamming BBC: Persia’s signal to prevent their citizens from getting non-censored coverage of Egypt and they’ve turned down a request to hold a rally in solidarity. Though granted, the request had come from his political opponents.

    As for the rest of Beck’s perceived “dangers”… one has to ask if he felt the same way when Gorbachev and Yeltsin brought some form of democracy to Russia with Reagan’s support? After all, we know that he apparently would’ve preferred for the Eastern Bloc nations to stay under Soviet control and Russia, along with its former client states do have nuclear weapons.

    Oh, and how did he feel when George W. Bush was claiming to plant the seeds of freedom in Iraq through the use of war? And for that matter, the American Revolution was founded on the idea of freedom, but it was just an idea and there would’ve been no proof that it would’ve actually happened; I wonder which side Beck would’ve been on?

  • Olby Sucks

    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much…

    by INB

    Well, you’re gonna be waitin a while…

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Analysts agree about the causes for the Egyptian Revolt:

    1) 9.7% Unemployment 9.2%
    2) Centralized Economy Fed
    3) Centralized Government Regulations
    4) Obscene Compensation for FoM Goldman Sachs – Immelt

    They’re getting rid of the Corruption; and we’re Welcoming it in!

  • milynily

    Glen didn’t say “go to hell” today, but he did say “son of a bitch”. Hes on a roll!

  • vindex2010

    Disappointing how Beck has gone to the dark side and is scaring away many of his Libertarian followers. Glenn, Libertarians never support Dictators no matter who replaces them. And one can argue that dictators provide the fertile ground through which tomorrow’s terrorist grow. Bin Laden wasn’t radicalized in a Democracy. Funny how Beck didn’t worry about removing another secular dictator named Hussein and unleashing the Caliphate in Iraq. It’s also such a shame to see all his views now colored through the prism of religious prophecy. Of course he can’t say that on TV, but all of his theories lead to one ending– Armeggedon.

    But I am still mesmerized on his ability to find patterns in chaos. The ability to tie together a nobody socialist union worker in New Zealand, Van Jones, George Soros, the Shiite Ahmadinejad and the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood does take skill. And he can twist any event, no matter how far way from his initial theory, into saying, “See I predicted this.” Alas, his audience is slowly leaving him because end of the world doomsayers all have one weakness. They are always proved wrong. It’s a matter of time before Ailes is forced to read Beck the riot act.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Analysts just now agreed that the causes for the Revolution:

    1) 9.7% Unemployment 9.2%
    2) Centralized Economy Fed
    3) Centralized Government Regulations
    4) Obscene Compensation for FoM Goldman Sachs – Immelt

    They’re getting rid of the Corruption; and we’re Welcoming it in!

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much… but have no problem (or are fond of) other dictators like Chavez, Morales, and Castro.

    I’m for the freedom of every one. In the previous thread you tried to claim that Michael Moore supported these leaders and that some people on a website felt the same way. I don’t know how they feel and don’t really care because each and every person only speaks for themselves.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window) said:
    Olby Sucks says:
    armwood

    What were you arrested for? That’s a mugshot, right?

    Suspicion of being an idiot. He was found guilty as charged.

    …too easy.

  • CosmosDan

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much… but have no problem (or are fond of) other dictators like Chavez, Morales, and Castro.

    I think it’s because your question is framed around bullshit.

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Mag

    Your’re making the same mistake as others… Revolution without planning for a re-establishment of government afterwards is dangerous. Successful revolutions have a plan BEFORE the revolution takes place.

  • OxyCon

    Olby Sucks said:
    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much…

    by INB

    Well, you’re gonna be waitin a while…

    Especially considering that the overwhelming majority of American Leftists haven’t even mentioned Mubarak’s name for the past 30 years.

    Now all of the sudden, out of the blue, Mubarak becomes public enemy #1 to the Leftist Asshats. Where did those sentiments metastasize?

  • tgk

    That crazy Beck…..

    Oh Hey, Looks like Ahmadinejad is excited about this day too!!!

    “We will soon see a new Middle East materialising without America and the Zionist regime and there will be no room for world arrogance (the West) in it,” the hardliner told cheering crowds of men, women and children gathered in Tehran’s Azadi (Freedom) Square despite cold and cloudy weather.

    http://www.thenational.ae/news/worldwide/middle-east/harsh-words-for-us-and-israel-at-iranian-revolution-rallies

  • blurgh.

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much… but have no problem (or are fond of) other dictators like Chavez, Morales, and Castro.

    I asked this earlier, and only got a few questions in response (which were easily answered), but no answers.

    I’m starting to believe the reason they dislike Mubarak is because they’re just following marching orders from the far-left, and simply believe in being anti-Beck. If Beck says we should be cautious, and concerned about who will eventually take power, the angry left responds with, “Nuh-uh… Beck’s crazy. Egypt will be great!” But not because they know, just because they have committed themselves to always disagreeing with Beck.

    That’s what it is, right? Beck is so evil, they just take the opposite of whatever he says. They don’t know why, which is why they can’t answer the question.

    Egyptians took it upon themselves to protest and put themselves on the line; I can’t speak for Cubans or Bolivians, but Venezuelans have always been politically lazy. There are extremist leftists who believe in violent revolution in the same of anti-capitalist rhetoric and defend Chavez, and there are more moderate liberals who recognize Chavez’s failure as a leader and abuse of democracy. I am anti-Chavista, but a proud liberal and progressive. And there are plenty like-minded liberals who don’t see the political spectrum in absolutes.

    Beck has nothing to do with my worldview except that I personally believe his rhetoric stokes paranoia and resentment. Incidentally, I think the same thing of Chavez.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Olby Sucks said:
    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much… by INB Well, you’re gonna be waitin a while…

    Great point OS,
    See above, (I’ll fix & repost).

    All the reasons the protestors overthrough their government, are being attempted here!

    It’s Corruption & Suppression Government. (Yes, Chicago Government!)

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Analysts just now agreed that the causes for the Revolution:

    1) 9.7% Unemployment —— 9.2%

    2) Centralized Economy —— Fed

    3) Centralized Government —— Regulations

    4) Obscene Compensation for FoM – Goldman Sachs – Immelt

    They’re getting rid of the Corruption; and we’re Welcoming it in!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    CosmosDan said:
    I think it’s because your question is framed around bullshit.

    see above

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Mag

    I gave Michael Moore as an example of someone who supported Castro, and was told he didn’t really represent “the left.”

    Fine. So, I provided an article from Politico of members of the CBC (that’s Congressional Black Caucus) who traveled to Cuba, and then spoke very highly of Castro. It was irrefutable evidence of my theory.

    And that, of course, is when the conversation ended. Nobody could answer the question, despite the thesis being proven.

    @ Dan

    If that’s what you think, you are most clearly wrong.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’m still waiting for someone from the left to explain why they hate Mubarak so much… but have no problem (or are fond of) other dictators like Chavez, Morales, and Castro.

    I asked this earlier, and only got a few questions in response (which were easily answered), but no answers.

    I’m starting to believe the reason they dislike Mubarak is because they’re just following marching orders from the far-left, and simply believe in being anti-Beck. If Beck says we should be cautious, and concerned about who will eventually take power, the angry left responds with, “Nuh-uh… Beck’s crazy. Egypt will be great!” But not because they know, just because they have committed themselves to always disagreeing with Beck.

    That’s what it is, right? Beck is so evil, they just take the opposite of whatever he says. They don’t know why, which is why they can’t answer the question.

    Probably the same excuse you gave for the right’s support of Mubarak; the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  • fiera

    grafxmail7 says:
    (Quote)

    OK! Get ready Chicken Little Beck disciples! The Rapture is coming!!!

    Sell everything you own now and buy gold!!!!!

    Buy some of those survival backpacks as well. You’ll need something to eat on the way to heaven!!!!
    hahaha……I just crapping…………………. in my pants!!!!!!!!!!!
    I know the looney tunes mentality. (fear .. kill and pray) …pray pray and pray because they are horny sinner.

  • im_lovin_it

    blurgh. said:
    I am anti-Chavista, but a proud liberal and progressive. And there are plenty like-minded liberals who don’t see the political spectrum in absolutes.

    Thank you! My God that’s so nice to hear! I just can’t convince anyone that being a progressive American doesn’t mean you have to answer for every single left-wing person, place, or thing in the entire history of the world.

    Example: Oh you’re a Republican huh? Well that means you liked Strom Thurmond. That means you are a racist. Racist.

    Don’t people see how lazy and stupid that sounds?

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ImNotBlue said:
    Your’re making the same mistake as others… Revolution without planning for a re-establishment of government afterwards is dangerous. Successful revolutions have a plan BEFORE the revolution takes place.

    The American Revolution started in 1775. The Declaration of Independence was written in 1776. The Articles of Confederation was written after the Declaration and not ratified until 1781. The Revolutionary War ended in 1783 and the Constititution took effect in 1789.

    IOW: The Revolution started long before the Articles of Confederation and fourteen years before the Constitution, so which “plan” was originally in play?

  • grafxmail7

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    Great point OS,
    See above, (I’ll fix & repost).

    All the reasons the protestors overthrough their government, are being attempted here!

    It’s Corruption & Suppression Government. (Yes, Chicago Government!)

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    Analysts just now agreed that the causes for the Revolution:

    1) 9.7% Unemployment —— 9.2%

    2) Centralized Economy —— Fed

    3) Centralized Government —— Regulations

    4) Obscene Compensation for FoM – Goldman Sachs – Immelt

    They’re getting rid of the Corruption; and we’re Welcoming it in!

    Your overly simplified postulations are absurd!

    Stick with your racists comments in support of Rush Limpballs! They’re much more funny!

  • ImNotBlue

    @ blurgh

    An interesting take on it.

    But I find the relative “laziness” of the governed people to be a weak argument. Just because we haven’t heard how much they hate their situation doesn’t mean they don’t… it means they might be more effectively surpressed (like the China).

    Either way, their “public apathy” shouldn’t translate into our acceptance.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @ImNotBlue: I don’t know what these individuals you keep pointing toward said and don’t really care. They may or may not disagree with me or any body else on the “left” — I don’t know — because it’s their opinion, nothing else.

  • Ruby124

    Beck makes sense to have very cautious ‘optimism’ if you ask me. Just because they got rid of Mubarak doesn’t mean a whole hell of a lot considering they have never had free elections in 4000 years. The folks that took over are the same folks that were working under Mubarak, are they not? Anyone who realizes what the dangers are to the entire world must have trepidation, collective breaths held in, waiting on pins and needles to see what way this plays out. It’s like standing around waiting for the other shoe to drop. I pray the Egyptian people can have the beginnings of a fledgling democracy created.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    PS – ImNotBlue: There have been several examples of “Tea Party” people holding racist views. They don’t speak for the movement just like Sean Penn only speaks for himself.

  • im_lovin_it

    Magister said:
    PS – ImNotBlue: There have been several examples of “Tea Party” people holding racist views. They don’t speak for the movement just like Sean Penn only speaks for himself.

    That’s a recurring problem in our discourse. Somehow all nuance and thought has left the political world. Now we are just the Sharks vs. the Jets. Let’s all yell and scream at each other! You SUCK! NO YOU SUCK!! Then when we’re done with that we can sit around and watch America’s Got Talent and live happily ever after.

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    grafxmail7 said:
    Your overly simplified postulations are absurd! Stick with your racists comments in support of Rush Limpballs! They’re much more funny!

    How astute.
    Try refuting some instead of meaningless invective.

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Reasonable

    Certainly not. Those countries are in substantially less danger of having well organized radical groups taking over, so the situation is much “friendlier” to revolution.

    Additionally, we’re not talking about tolerance… we’re talking about an affinity for and praises sent to these dictators. That isn’t as easily explained.

    @ Mag

    If you don’t recognize that there was a framework for the Revolution prior to it’s begining, your sadly mistaken. Heck, the fact that they had a formal army and rankings points to a well organized movement. It wasn’t people gathering and throwing bottles… there was an organized movement.

    After the Revolution ended, the fact that they were able to meet in an organized fashion, reprensentatives from each state and a clear leader (Washington), is something lacking in the Egyptian revolution. Who is their Washington?

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Mag

    We’re not talking about some guy on the street… these were/are elected leaders! I’m not sure why you’re not getting that.

    politico.com/news/stories/0409/21008.html

  • Gasket

    im_lovin_it said:
    Thank you! My God that’s so nice to hear! I just can’t convince anyone that being a progressive American doesn’t mean you have to answer for every single left-wing person, place, or thing in the entire history of the world.

    Example: Oh you’re a Republican huh? Well that means you liked Strom Thurmond. That means you are a racist. Racist.

    Don’t people see how lazy and stupid that sounds?

    Precisely.

  • CosmosDan

    OxyCon said:
    Now all of the sudden, out of the blue, Mubarak becomes public enemy #1 to the Leftist Asshats. Where did those sentiments metastasize?

    In your delusional head.

  • CosmosDan

    NORBIT Jr. said:
    see above

    I don’t think you actually addressed the issue I was addressing.

  • CosmosDan

    im_lovin_it said:
    Thank you! My God that’s so nice to hear! I just can’t convince anyone that being a progressive American doesn’t mean you have to answer for every single left-wing person, place, or thing in the entire history of the world.

    Example: Oh you’re a Republican huh? Well that means you liked Strom Thurmond. That means you are a racist. Racist.

    Don’t people see how lazy and stupid that sounds?

    A lot of people do. A lot. Just not a lot that post in comments here.
    And both sides are guilty of ridiculous ignorant partisan generalizations that do nothing to encourage discussion.

  • CosmosDan

    Ruby124 said:
    Beck makes sense to have very cautious ‘optimism’ if you ask me. Just because they got rid of Mubarak doesn’t mean a whole hell of a lot considering they have never had free elections in 4000 years. The folks that took over are the same folks that were working under Mubarak, are they not? Anyone who realizes what the dangers are to the entire world must have trepidation, collective breaths held in, waiting on pins and needles to see what way this plays out. It’s like standing around waiting for the other shoe to drop. I pray the Egyptian people can have the beginnings of a fledgling democracy created.

    Is that what Beck is focusing on. Cautious optimism? Sure didn’t seem like it to me.

    I think most people are aware that there are dangers and problems still ahead. Nobody is claiming everything is sunshine and all problems are solved. That’s a far cry from Beck’s doom and gloom and it’s all part of some plot for a new world order to squelch freedom and control everyone’s lives.

  • Greg

    Beck is advancing quickly toward obscurity, enjoying the theatre associated with a shooting star. God bless and keep him.

  • ProgLib

    When everyone else is happy about overthrowing a dictator it takes some savvy thinking to stand out from the crowd. Shrewd Glenny.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ImNotBlue said:
    If you don’t recognize that there was a framework for the Revolution prior to it’s begining, your sadly mistaken. Heck, the fact that they had a formal army and rankings points to a well organized movement. It wasn’t people gathering and throwing bottles… there was an organized movement.

    The Boston Tea Party wasn’t a well-formed militia and Vermont’s Green Mountain Boys were closer to the definition of “terrorists” than a formal army and before they petitioned to align with the Continental Army, they provided assistance to “irregulars” in other states.

    ImNotBlue said:
    We’re not talking about some guy on the street… these were/are elected leaders! I’m not sure why you’re not getting that.

    I don’t care if all 435 members of Congress say something. They may be the elected Representatives of their individual districts, but their opinions are their own.

    Does Michelle Bachmann speak for you? How about Ron or Rand Paul?

    BTW: I’m not going to be able to go back and forth all night, so don’t be surprised when crickets sound.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ^of course, I guess because I named Rand, I probably should’ve said 535^

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Mag

    Well, first off if you only point to a certain few events in the American Revolution, you can build your conclusion. However if your look at it in the context of the whole event, it just doesn’t support it. It was well organized.

    As for the rest, I’m not sure what you want me to tell you. Elected Democrats, but perhaps not every single Democrat everywhere ever, have supported certain dictators, and I don’t understand why they are more acceptable than Mubarak. Is that the level of specifics we have to play with? My point is that “the majority” of Democrats have done this, and supported those candidates. If you want to argue that you’re not one, great… but that doesnmt change the fact that there are more of “them,” than of you.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @im_lovin_it: I generally shy away from discussing the broader subject of politics on this blog because I consider it a media site, but I will occasionally take a more political position and @ImNotBlue is one of the other commenters with whom I’ll occasionally engage.

    (There’s some commenters that I ignore, a few that I’ll occasionally ask WTF? and only a handful whom I feel is capable of reasonable discourse and it’s with them that I’ll engage)

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    ImNotBlue said:
    My point is that “the majority” of Democrats have done this, and supported those candidates. If you want to argue that you’re not one, great… but that doesnmt change the fact that there are more of “them,” than of you.

    That’s not true. There are millions of Democrats, left-leaning independents, Greens and whatnot. Perhaps there’s some identifiable examples of people who have said something in support of these dictators, but there are literally millions more who disagree or whom have no opinion on the matter, whatsoever.

    As for the general subject of propping-up dictators… Mubarak has been there 30 years and several of those around the Middle East have been for a long time. They’ve been propped-up by administrations from both sides of the aisle, as have lots of others for generations.

    Though of course, nobody’s propping-up Chavez or Castro; They seem to be standing on their own.

  • Yoda002

    His ratings have been going down hill. I think i hear the echo of his show getting turned off all across the country. I predict he will get off the Psycho path, so he can get some of his viewers back.

  • Nacho

    Hannity and Beck are playing their Old Rube viewers like fiddles.

    The more they’re scared, the more they tune in.

  • shortstopk

    What the heck is his problem with the Google guy? He admits to using Facebook to organize a protest. And that’s bad how?

  • Nacho

    shortstopk said:
    What the heck is his problem with the Google guy? He admits to using Facebook to organize a protest. And that’s bad how?

    Because Facebook has all but wiped out (Fox)News Corp. owned MySpace.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    OxyCon said:
    Especially considering that the overwhelming majority of American Leftists haven’t even mentioned Mubarak’s name for the past 30 years.

    Now all of the sudden, out of the blue, Mubarak becomes public enemy #1 to the Leftist Asshats. Where did those sentiments metastasize?

    Totally untrue! People on the left have complained about U.S. support of Mubarak for over 20 years. I have been one of them.

  • zumpano

    IF YOU TAKE AWAY OUR SOCIAL SECURITY: WE’RE COMING FOR YOU

  • AngelPeters

    Will Mediaite put up the clip of O’Reilly challenging Beck’s theories?

  • Mr B

    “Whatever you feel about Beck’s Egypt coverage, it all goes out the window once he starts going on these “Hooray for Old People!” tangents”

    Way to miss the point Jon. Imagine my surprise.

    Progressives are co-opting the youth. Islamists are co-opting the youth.

    Google execs are co-opting the youth. http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+egypt+youth&go=&form=QBRE

    Obama is calling out to the “youth” in Egypt. Although, he was for Mubarak before he was against him. Or is the other way around?

    “To the people of Egypt, particularly the young people of Egypt, I want to be clear: We hear your voices. I have an unyielding belief that you will determine your own destiny and seize the promise of a better future for your children and your grandchildren. And I say that as someone who is committed to a partnership between the United States and Egypt.” – President Obama

    Why “particularly the youth”?

    What about the youth of Iran? They had a legitimate spontaneous uprising not too long ago. Not an “organized” one such as Egypt. Why did Obama ignore that one?

  • ImNotBlue

    @ Mag

    Who, of any significance, on the left, criticized the CBC after their comments? What is the evidence that “millions” are against them?

    As for propping up dictators, I’m not sure what your point is. But, I would argue that we have been helping Chavez a bit… just ask Joe Kennedy, and his “oil” group.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    Nacho said:
    Because Facebook has all but wiped out (Fox)News Corp. owned MySpace.

    I hadn’t thought of that… j/k

    Of course, if I were cynical and a conspiracy theorist, I’d might wonder how much motivation may come from the fact that though they may have enough money to buy-off their citizenry and a more fundamentalist revolt could be a real threat, but you know, a major stockholder in News is a Saudi prince…

    Though fortunately, I don’t believe such things and they’ve probably never occurred to Beck.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Boring Beck hates young people nothing new here.

  • The Real Royal King

    Magister said:
    I hadn’t thought of that… j/k Of course, if I were cynical and a conspiracy theorist, I’d might wonder how much motivation may come from the fact that though they may have enough money to buy-off their citizenry and a more fundamentalist revolt could be a real threat, but you know, a major stockholder in News is a Saudi prince… Though fortunately, I don’t believe such things and they’ve probably never occurred to Beck.

    As the events of the last two days have begun to sink in, it is clear that the greatest fear is that of the Saudis, not Americans, not even the Israelis. The notion of democracy in Saudi Arabia shakes its leaders to their very core. And, you can be assured that every Neo-Con, Murdoch, Ailes and O”Beckerhead will now be doing all they can to prop up the rotten Saudi despots. Their fiscal ties and their symapthied are very, very strong.

  • The Real Royal King

    Ben Pratt said:
    Boring Beck hates young people nothing new here.

    I gather young people don’t think all that much of him, either.

  • Nacho

    Mr B said:
    “Whatever you feel about Beck’s Egypt coverage, it all goes out the window once he starts going on these “Hooray for Old People!” tangents”

    Way to miss the point Jon. Imagine my surprise.

    Progressives are co-opting the youth. Islamists are co-opting the youth.

    Google execs are co-opting the youth. http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+egypt+youth&go=&form=QBRE

    Obama is calling out to the “youth” in Egypt. Although, he was for Mubarak before he was against him. Or is the other way around?

    “To the people of Egypt, particularly the young people of Egypt, I want to be clear: We hear your voices. I have an unyielding belief that you will determine your own destiny and seize the promise of a better future for your children and your grandchildren. And I say that as someone who is committed to a partnership between the United States and Egypt.” – President Obama

    Why “particularly the youth”?

    What about the youth of Iran? They had a legitimate spontaneous uprising not too long ago. Not an “organized” one such as Egypt. Why did Obama ignore that one?

    It’s simple, The youth must be eliminated or raise the voting age to 30.

  • BruceGoose

    …and

    CosmosDan said:
    I tend to agree with Beck. Having a 30 year dictator is no excuse for chaos and nothing good can come of it.

    Mubarak would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids!

  • grafxmail7

    BruceGoose said:
    …and

    Mubarak would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids!

    Hilarious!!!

    I wonder how many younger Chicken Little Beck disciples there are?

    The Real Royal King said:
    I gather young people don’t think all that much of him, either.

    Yeah…ole’ Rupert was bummed about this!

  • CosmosDan

    BruceGoose said:
    …and

    Mubarak would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn’t been for those meddling kids!

    LOL!! Scooby Dooby Doo!

  • Truman

    What I find significant in all the criticism of Glenn Beck is … none of the comments refute any of Glen’s sources and the basis for his logic. No one questions the progressive spin spewed from those who assasinate Glen’s character and sanity without any documentation. What we must do is hold all news programs to the same standards … measure each legitimate news show by those standards for credibility. John Stewart is a comedian … a mean spirited and foul mouthed one … but none the less a comedian. He is not a credible news source. There is no reason to compare comments made by any political pundant or news reporter or news comentator to the poor excuses for jokes disguised as opinion by John Stewart. However, in all fairness to John , he makes more sense trying to make light of issues, than many others who profess to be reporting the news. If we claim to be Americans, we all must invest time and study into learning for ourselves what we think and why. We must all decide for ourselves and never let another person or news show or comedy show form our opinion on anything for us. Look at Glenn Beck’s track record of telling the truth and documenting with video and writen word to support his points. Do the same for those who oppose him. Then ponder and review what you learn on your own and form your own opinion.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Mr B said:
    “Whatever you feel about Beck’s Egypt coverage, it all goes out the window once he starts going on these “Hooray for Old People!” tangents” Way to miss the point Jon. Imagine my surprise. Progressives are co-opting the youth. Islamists are co-opting the youth. Google execs are co-opting the youth. http://www.bing.com/search?q=google+egypt+youth&go=&form=QBRE Obama is calling out to the “youth” in Egypt. Although, he was for Mubarak before he was against him. Or is the other way around? “To the people of Egypt, particularly the young people of Egypt, I want to be clear: We hear your voices. I have an unyielding belief that you will determine your own destiny and seize the promise of a better future for your children and your grandchildren. And I say that as someone who is committed to a partnership between the United States and Egypt.” – President Obama Why “particularly the youth”? What about the youth of Iran? They had a legitimate spontaneous uprising not too long ago. Not an “organized” one such as Egypt. Why did Obama ignore that one?

    Obama didn’t go for Iran because it was pretty clear that the revolt wasn’t going to work. This is the first time in years that the arabic people have stood up to brutal dictators and I hope it won’t be the last. Even now Iran is actually censoring information about this revolt in it’s own country because it’s afraid of what might happen. That alone should tell you that these people are pro democracy. I also won’t to point out the irony of beck defending the tea party and yet screaming about terrorists with this movement. The tea party had out there elements but beck didn’t seem to mind because most of them were ordinary middle class citizens. Now it’s egypt’s turn and most of these people are peaceful regular citizens, beck wants them to stop thinking about any future for their country and return to dictatorship.

  • DonnaK

    I should not have been surprised tonight at Fox, but I still was. As I was flipping through the channels watching the coverage about Egypt, everyone was happy and smiling and giving words of encouragement until you come to Fox News. All they were talking about was what President Obama did wrong, scaring people about who was lurking around to take over, how upset Egypts neighbors are at the President…..it is ridiculous how hate filled they are. I wonder when people are ever going to get tired of all the gloom and doom and hate that Fox puts out!!! I guess any credit that Obama gets threatens them to their very core…….Pathetic!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Truman said:
    What I find significant in all the criticism of Glenn Beck is … none of the comments refute any of Glen’s sources and the basis for his logic. No one questions the progressive spin spewed from those who assasinate Glen’s character and sanity without any documentation. What we must do is hold all news programs to the same standards … measure each legitimate news show by those standards for credibility. John Stewart is a comedian … a mean spirited and foul mouthed one … but none the less a comedian. He is not a credible news source. There is no reason to compare comments made by any political pundant or news reporter or news comentator to the poor excuses for jokes disguised as opinion by John Stewart. However, in all fairness to John , he makes more sense trying to make light of issues, than many others who profess to be reporting the news. If we claim to be Americans, we all must invest time and study into learning for ourselves what we think and why. We must all decide for ourselves and never let another person or news show or comedy show form our opinion on anything for us. Look at Glenn Beck’s track record of telling the truth and documenting with video and writen word to support his points. Do the same for those who oppose him. Then ponder and review what you learn on your own and form your own opinion.

    Yeah like he said there was going to be a nuclear apocalypse that involved iran in 2006.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Truman said:
    What I find significant in all the criticism of Glenn Beck is … none of the comments refute any of Glen’s sources and the basis for his logic. No one questions the progressive spin spewed from those who assasinate Glen’s character and sanity without any documentation. What we must do is hold all news programs to the same standards … measure each legitimate news show by those standards for credibility. John Stewart is a comedian … a mean spirited and foul mouthed one … but none the less a comedian. He is not a credible news source. There is no reason to compare comments made by any political pundant or news reporter or news comentator to the poor excuses for jokes disguised as opinion by John Stewart. However, in all fairness to John , he makes more sense trying to make light of issues, than many others who profess to be reporting the news. If we claim to be Americans, we all must invest time and study into learning for ourselves what we think and why. We must all decide for ourselves and never let another person or news show or comedy show form our opinion on anything for us. Look at Glenn Beck’s track record of telling the truth and documenting with video and writen word to support his points. Do the same for those who oppose him. Then ponder and review what you learn on your own and form your own opinion.

    or how beck said that obama’s trip to india was costing us 500 billion dollars a day. Definitely the truth right?

  • Paleoconservatarian

    There’s cause to be circumspect, for the Egyptian revolution is founded on something less noble than our own. Our revolution was led by learned men of the enlightenment; their ideals transmitted to the people through long hours of debate and discussion. Their “leader” is some guy who works for Google and the “ideas” of the revolution are tactics disseminated in the 140 characters allowed by Twitter. Mubarak was more tyrannical than George, but the “opposition” isn’t rooted in a culture of or versed in the theory of upholding the inherrent rights of man. The people had no cause to rise against Mubarak beyond vague notions of hunger and the desire to not be cracked over their heads when they went out into the streets. How does this translate into something that works?

    Most media are caught up in the familiar euphoria of empty “change.” Good intentions aren’t a plan for a just, stable government and pathos isn’t a substitute for reason. There’s a huge potential downside in this revolution and intelligent people shouldn’t pretend otherwise.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    There’s cause to be circumspect, for the Egyptian revolution is founded on something less noble than our own. Our revolution was led by learned men of the enlightenment; their ideals transmitted to the people through long hours of debate and discussion. Their “leader” is some guy who works for Google and the “ideas” of the revolution are tactics disseminated in the 140 characters allowed by Twitter. Mubarak was more tyrannical than George, but the “opposition” isn’t rooted in a culture of or versed in the theory of upholding the inherrent rights of man. The people had no cause to rise against Mubarak beyond vague notions of hunger and the desire to not be cracked over their heads when they went out into the streets. How does this translate into something that works? Most media are caught up in the familiar euphoria of empty “change.” Good intentions aren’t a plan for a just, stable government and pathos isn’t a substitute for reason. There’s a huge potential downside in this revolution and intelligent people shouldn’t pretend otherwise.

    Actually, most people in the revolution didn’t go to war for some ideological cause, they went to war to protect their homes. Most people didn’t believe in the revolution itself but wanted to protect their homes and families. The Egyptian people want to protect their livelihood and escape a brutal dictator. The joblessness and hunger were only the starting factors.

  • CosmosDan

    ImNotBlue said:
    As for the rest, I’m not sure what you want me to tell you. Elected Democrats, but perhaps not every single Democrat everywhere ever, have supported certain dictators, and I don’t understand why they are more acceptable than Mubarak. Is that the level of specifics we have to play with? My point is that “the majority” of Democrats have done this, and supported those candidates. If you want to argue that you’re not one, great… but that doesnmt change the fact that there are more of “them,” than of you.

    Care to show this majority of elected Democrats and the support you claim they displayed, as opposed to what the GOP did?
    You link to a handful of Dems saying Castro treated them well during their visit. Not really all you claimed is it?

  • Liberal Tormentor (formerly Seeing 2012 From My Window)

    Donna says;

    I should not have been surprised tonight at Fox, but I still was. As I was flipping through the channels watching the coverage about Egypt, everyone was happy and smiling and giving words of encouragement until you come to Fox News.

    Well that’s interesting. I watched BillO and that’s exactly what he did.

  • CosmosDan

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    There’s cause to be circumspect, for the Egyptian revolution is founded on something less noble than our own. Our revolution was led by learned men of the enlightenment; their ideals transmitted to the people through long hours of debate and discussion. Their “leader” is some guy who works for Google and the “ideas” of the revolution are tactics disseminated in the 140 characters allowed by Twitter. Mubarak was more tyrannical than George, but the “opposition” isn’t rooted in a culture of or versed in the theory of upholding the inherrent rights of man. The people had no cause to rise against Mubarak beyond vague notions of hunger and the desire to not be cracked over their heads when they went out into the streets. How does this translate into something that works?

    Wow. You romanticize our revolution and demean theirs. Good job

  • ganymede

    For a change I actually watched the clip on Beck and the Middle East. I’m one of those left types who find it virtually impossible to watch or listen to Beck because his schtick is so nonsensical and off the wall and boring. Who has the time to waste on this stuff. But I did watch this time and here’s my take on this character. Whatever his pretensions to being a great teacher and helping people understand what’s really happening, I find him to be one of these paranoic reactionaries and a first class warmonger. First of all, the Egyptian Revolution was not caused by Google and Facebook. It helped, but it was more that enough Egyptians have reached a level of consciousness that they could join together and have an almost spontaneous revolution. Only a small number of Egyptian are on Facebook and Twitter.
    Secondly, and this is where Beck is totally irresponsible and a bald faced liar. Anyone with half a brain knows why we cannot go all out to support the dissadents in Tehran. There will be a bloodbath and we will have yet more blood on our hands. What the rightwing doesn’t get is that we are guilty for the bloodbath we caused in Iraq. The new revised figures are well over half a million civilian deaths and still rising. If the Republicans were running this country now instead of Obama, we would have already bombed Iran and might have physically intervened in Egypt. Beck is just a psychopath/sociopath who manipulates , maybe, without knowing he’s manipulating, and represents nothing positive about America. His followers are deluded fools and his backers are the biggest cynics God has ever created. Beck also castigates Obama for not showing more support for the Tea Bag movement. Listen, if there were a genuine populist movement, millions of people like myself, and including Obama, would join in a minute. Now that the Tea Bag Party has some representation o\in Congress, maybe we’ll see some helpful ideas coming forth. So far, it’s been mostly about shuting down government and restricting abortions. Beck is right about one thing, current events are giving birth to something big, but it very well might be more positive than negative for a change.

  • ImNotBlue

    CosmosDan said:
    Care to show this majority of elected Democrats and the support you claim they displayed, as opposed to what the GOP did?You link to a handful of Dems saying Castro treated them well during their visit. Not really all you claimed is it?

    No, I do not care to. I was “shot down” with the BS notion that Michael Moore doesn’t have influence among Liberal Democrats. Fine… it’s BS, and anyone who has seen what happens after one of his premieres, and how he’s treated by the media knows it’s BS, but whatever. So then I find a number of elected Democrats praising Castro… and it’s not good enough. Just because they were “elected” and “Democrats” doesn’t mean that’s what Democrats actually think.

    I’ve done my part proving my thesis. If you think it’s untrue, why don’t you do some leg work. Show me where other Democrats criticized Moore or the CBC group. Show me where scores of Democrats have railed against Chavez, Morales, or Castro. You do some of the work… I’ve done enough, and don’t care to waste my time only to see the goalposts move… again.

  • CosmosDan

    Truman said:
    What I find significant in all the criticism of Glenn Beck is … none of the comments refute any of Glen’s sources and the basis for his logic. No one questions the progressive spin spewed from those who assasinate Glen’s character and sanity without any documentation.

    What basis do you think his logic has. Glenn uses select facts that are jammed together in a way that is not logic.
    Described as Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for “after this, therefore because of this, it is a logical fallacy.

  • CosmosDan

    ImNotBlue said:
    Just because they were “elected” and “Democrats” doesn’t mean that’s what Democrats actually think.

    You didn’t provide evidence for the words you actually used. A handful of democrats is not most, and saying Castro treated them well at their meeting is not praising his politics.

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’ve done my part proving my thesis.

    No you certainly haven’t and I’m not about to spend time contradicting something you haven’t supported. You made the claim, you can back it up or not. If you can’t it’s a baseless assertion.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    You going to spam this onto all Beck vids?

    ganymede said:
    What the rightwing doesn’t get is that we are guilty for the bloodbath we caused in Iraq. The new revised figures are well over half a million civilian deaths and still rising.

    What the right wing gets is that the far left wing is gleefully willing to take blame into their country for those things, real or otherwise, they want to lay at the feet of their political opposition and just as vociferously determined to deny any positive benifit derived from the actions of America when they themselves are not directing it.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    CosmosDan said:
    Wow. You romanticize our revolution and demean theirs. Good job

    Wow. You utterly failed to discern my point. How do you say my circumspection is demonizing?

  • Davo

    ganymede said:
    What the rightwing doesn’t get is that we are guilty for the bloodbath we caused in Iraq. The new revised figures are well over half a million civilian deaths and still rising.

    Those “revised figures” are constantly being “revised” by anti-American Leftist organizations funded by George Soros, with the agenda of using easily tweaked DIM suckers to help overthrow America.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ed-Lascar/100000889579338 Ed Lascar

    Beck is actually seeing what is obvious: libertarians being put on the streets just to serve terrorists groups a country. Argel is on the corner.

  • ProgLib

    I have a new Sixth Sense inspired motto for Beck: “I scare dumb people”

  • CosmosDan

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    Wow. You utterly failed to discern my point. How do you say my circumspection is demonizing?

    I didn’t say demonizing

    We don’t know what the future holds for Egypt but there’s no need to piss all over their hope for a better tomorrow or belittle the efforts that got them this far.

  • Annie Oakley

    And, if Wael Ghonim worked for Halliburton, BP, Goldman Sachs, or JP Morgan Chase, the legacy media would feel how?

  • Nacho

    Annie Oakley said:
    And, if Wael Ghonim worked for Halliburton, BP, Goldman Sachs, or JP Morgan Chase, the legacy media would feel how?

    What if Grandma had balls?

  • The Real Royal King

    How sad it is to have awakened this morning to find the entire Middle East in flames and thousands of radical Islamofascists on planes en route to Atlanta and Charlotte to institute Sharia law in northern Georgia and in the Carolinas. O’Beckerhead was correct.

  • im_lovin_it

    The Real Royal King said:
    How sad it is to have awakened this morning to find the entire Middle East in flames and thousands of radical Islamofascists on planes en route to Atlanta and Charlotte to institute Sharia law in northern Georgia and in the Carolinas. O’Beckerhead was correct.

    Well if you’re a progressive apparently you’re safe. We’re having an ice cream social to celebrate our New World Order this afternoon. I think we’re going to have the bald eagle buffet around 7 pm EST. We’ll be grilingl the birds over the satanic hellfire coming out of the Rose Garden and having a meet and greet with our Sith Lord Obama all day. Come out!

  • valkyrie101

    I respect Beck for holding up the far right anti-communist stick, that fears the end of the world and the collapse of civilization as we know it, because our enemies need to know that Glenn, and men like him, have got our ass covered. That being said, there is no reason to believe that God’s intention is anything but the establishment of His kingdom on earth.

  • ProObamaAgenda

    CosmosDan said:
    I tend to agree with Beck. Having a 30 year dictator is no excuse for chaos and nothing good can come of it. Thank God we realized that here in this country and avoided chaos throughout our history.

    lol@you being an idiot…..do you NOT the believe that the revolutionary and civil wars were chaos????….its time for you dumb assed conservatives to STFU or just leave the country

  • The Real Royal King

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    lol@you being an idiot…..do you NOT the believe that the revolutionary and civil wars were chaos????….its time for you dumb assed conservatives to STFU or just leave the country

    I think CosmosDan is being ironic here.

  • The Real Royal King

    im_lovin_it said:
    Well if you’re a progressive apparently you’re safe. We’re having an ice cream social to celebrate our New World Order this afternoon. I think we’re going to have the bald eagle buffet around 7 pm EST. We’ll be grilingl the birds over the satanic hellfire coming out of the Rose Garden and having a meet and greet with our Sith Lord Obama all day. Come out!

    Well, I am certainly pleased to learn that the End of Days is still at hand.

  • CosmosDan

    ProObamaAgenda said:
    lol@you being an idiot…..do you NOT the believe that the revolutionary and civil wars were chaos????….its time for you dumb assed conservatives to STFU or just leave the country

    Maybe if you didn’t fly off the handle in your eagerness to rant and condemn your fellow citizens you’d recognize sarcasm a little more easily.

    Of course the civil war and revolutionary war were chaos, which is where the sarcasm comes in. I was making fun of Beck.

  • CosmosDan

    Interesting article in the HuffPo about Egyptian Christians and Muslims protesting together and working for a free peaceful Egypt.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sumbul-alikaramali/egyptian-muslims-egyptian_b_818829.html

  • zumpano

    IF YOU REPUBLICANS TAKE AWAY US YOUNG PEOPLES’ SOCIAL SECURITY: THE UPRISINGS IN EGYPT WILL LOOK LIKE A SUNDAY PICNIC

  • cnash

    I don’t know what’s into Republicans lately, but they only seem to believe two things: What’s in it for me? and How can this protect my dividends and way of life?

    The revolution in Egypt may take violent turns and may become anti-american, but now they have FREEDOM. I hate to underly that, but if they choose to spit out anti-american rhetoric, they now have the freedom to do so. I find it infuriating that some Americans only see freedom as freedom for Americans. Egypt now has the right to go through the same growth spurt as many other countries. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if they become vehemently anti-american due to the fact the Yanks helped put him there.

    Glenn Beck is a hypocrite. He rails the Democrats for authoritarianism, but denounces other revolutions and civil uprisings as “evil”. The frustrating thing is how narrow minded he is. He is one of many now growing under a wing of 100 years of American imperialism, starting around the Spanish American war, blind to the imperialism but aware that it matters.

    Give the rest of the world a break, Glenn. They’re allowed to have “American” freedoms too. This guy really gives the Western world a bad name.

  • homie

    هو [منتلّي] شر وجافّة سكرانة LOL

  • homie

    Он умственно больн, comrades.

  • homie

    Why do conservatives hate democracy unless it is for white Christians?

  • writer

    Uh, oh. Homie is onto us.

  • Pokerdude777

    Mr Bershad,
    When I read your article I was sure it was written by Tommy Christopher. Regardless, Please make sure, when you QUOTE someone and then show the video, that your printed words match what they ACTUALLY said. Glenn did not say “chaos NEVER leads to anything good” as you wrote. He said, “chaos usually doesn’t lead to anything good”. HUGE slanted left difference there as we all know chaos was the begining of the American Revolution.

    I’ll tell you like I did Tommy, I don’t care if you write your articles slanted left or right, just don’t lie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Pokerdude777 said:
    Mr Bershad,
    When I read your article I was sure it was written by Tommy Christopher. Regardless, Please make sure, when you QUOTE someone and then show the video, that your printed words match what they ACTUALLY said. Glenn did not say “chaos NEVER leads to anything good” as you wrote. He said, “chaos usually doesn’t lead to anything good”. HUGE slanted left difference there as we all know chaos was the begining of the American Revolution.

    I’ll tell you like I did Tommy, I don’t care if you write your articles slanted left or right, just don’t lie.

    meh it’s more of a slant in favor of the internet. Beck routinely calls out young people and internet bloggers in general. This is really the natural response from said bloggers.

  • nice_thought

    Pokerdude777 said:
    Mr Bershad,
    When I read your article I was sure it was written by Tommy Christopher. Regardless, Please make sure, when you QUOTE someone and then show the video, that your printed words match what they ACTUALLY said. Glenn did not say “chaos NEVER leads to anything good” as you wrote. He said, “chaos usually doesn’t lead to anything good”. HUGE slanted left difference there as we all know chaos was the begining of the American Revolution.

    I’ll tell you like I did Tommy, I don’t care if you write your articles slanted left or right, just don’t lie.

    Did u really tell Tommy that? Man, you are one tough fella. Tommy must be running scared.

  • Davo

    cnash said:
    He is one of many now growing under a wing of 100 years of American imperialism, starting around the Spanish American war, blind to the imperialism but aware that it matters.

    Your whole post is so mentally bent as to take longer to answer than I care to take. I will, however, simply point to this one point of idiocy repeated by DIMS under orders of your “thinkers.”

    An “empire” conquers other nations and incorporates them into the empire as a whole. The British, the Dutch, and the German Nazis all attempted to build empires. The United States, however, has NEVER incorporated any nation we defeated in battle into an “empire.” In fact, we’ve always rebuilt, repaid, and returned conquered lands to their citizenry.

    I don;t think Beck “gives the Western world a bad name.” It’s the self-loathing anti-American Liberals who do that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Davo said:
    Your whole post is so mentally bent as to take longer to answer than I care to take. I will, however, simply point to this one point of idiocy repeated by DIMS under orders of your “thinkers.”

    An “empire” conquers other nations and incorporates them into the empire as a whole. The British, the Dutch, and the German Nazis all attempted to build empires. The United States, however, has NEVER incorporated any nation we defeated in battle into an “empire.” In fact, we’ve always rebuilt, repaid, and returned conquered lands to their citizenry.

    I don;t think Beck “gives the Western world a bad name.” It’s the self-loathing anti-American Liberals who do that.

    Tell that puerto rico, the phillipines and hawaii.

  • timcajun

    Ben Pratt says:

    Tell that puerto rico, the phillipines and hawaii.

    ……………………………….

    Davo, and Beck are seldom correct, but he hurts himself trying to pat his own back, for no valid point!

  • X-3

    Ben Pratt said:
    Boring Beck hates young people nothing new here.

    The above is one of the most stupid statements I have ever read on this site. It even trumps most of the crap that GBR spews. The point–besides the one on your head–is that young people are most often co-opted by radical groups, e.g. the Muslim Brotherhood, and their energy is used to promote the chaos the puppetmasters need to advance their agenda. Clearly, you are either a young person or an old fool.

  • Glackin

    Davo,you’ve already been informed of Hawaii, Puerto Rico and the Phillipines. When you learn to read, study up on them. Then see what there is about the Cherokee Nation or the Iroquois Confederation, both of which had written constitutions before the US did. Beck is a showman; the only thing he believes in is Beck. If the price were right, he’d be selling Shamwow tomorrow.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    CosmosDan said:
    I didn’t say demonizing

    We don’t know what the future holds for Egypt but there’s no need to piss all over their hope for a better tomorrow or belittle the efforts that got them this far.

    How do you say my circumspection is demeaning, then?

    I hardly think my analysis of Egypt, or Beck’s for that matter which is the gist of the article for which this therad exists, is going to much effect matters there. Good vibes or negative waves don’t exist and postulations of the future typed from my keyboard isn’t going to fly across the world and suppress somebody. Celebrate for five or ten seconds their citizens’ elation of being out from under Mubarak, then look at the realities. As I said, pathos isn’t a substitute for reason.

    I don’t see the basis of their revolution as having the necessary ingredients for a just, stable and western orientated (we still want that, right?) democracy. There’s little in the cultural memory of the people but theocracy, monarchy, socialist Ba’athist strongmen and dictatorship. Cultural memory is important, in this instance, because it helps shape a people’s expectations on the nature of power. We had generations of tradition to rely on of democratic principles and individual freedom before our own revolution, and the greater culture of the western world was the period of the enlightenment. What is the greater culture of Islam right now to serve as a bulwark for their grand experiment in democracy?

    There is, of course, a chance that things just might turn out to be benign, but it’s far more likely to turn very, very bad. It doesn’t demean the average Egyptian citizen to consider this.

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Paleoconservatarian said:
    It doesn’t demean the average Egyptian citizen to consider this.

    In fact, if anything, ‘critical’ thinking helps define potential obstacles to their experiment. And I thought that was a good thing. Or should we not tell them but just put on a happy face?

  • cnash

    Davo said:
    Your whole post is so mentally bent as to take longer to answer than I care to take. I will, however, simply point to this one point of idiocy repeated by DIMS under orders of your “thinkers.”

    An “empire” conquers other nations and incorporates them into the empire as a whole. The British, the Dutch, and the German Nazis all attempted to build empires. The United States, however, has NEVER incorporated any nation we defeated in battle into an “empire.” In fact, we’ve always rebuilt, repaid, and returned conquered lands to their citizenry.

    I don;t think Beck “gives the Western world a bad name.” It’s the self-loathing anti-American Liberals who do that.

    I have to argue with that one on Hawaii. That was a willful overthrow of a legitimate regime. And why did it take so long to turn into a state? There’s no rules as to using foreign labor if you’re not a state. I’m still confused as to why some Americans are against calling themselves an Empire. That’s what they are. Despite some periods of isolationism (which are actually great for America), it’s been on the cabinet’s agenda. I’m currently in Afghanistan, and I can tell you that American corporate profit is the number one reason we’re here. It’s the same relationship the British had with the Dutch East India Company. Just replace that company with KBR or Blackstone and you’re on the money.

    And who said I was liberal? I’m against fascism in the proper sense, which means manipulating patriotism for the gain of corporations embedded in the government. Why am I against this? Because they sell out us for their gain. I refuse to bow to this system. The American way of life has gotten worse because companies don’t care about Americans. They care about their profit. Ron Paul gave a great speech a few days ago about upping isolationism and cutting spending. That sounds great to me. And public health care sounds great too. That, policing, and public works are about the only things I want my taxes to fund. I do not want to fund a war machine that flips the bill onto me and then blames the libs. More state authority and less federal government sounds great, but that includes no subsidising corporations, and no military spending unless necessary.

  • Davo

    cnash said:
    I’m still confused as to why some Americans are against calling themselves an Empire. That’s what they are. ………………..And who said I was liberal?.

    Yes, you are quite ‘confused.’

    Germany and the Soviet Union attempted to build empires, as empires are always built………….by conquering existent sovereign nations and then claiming them as part of their own. The US has fought against both, who attempeted to imperialize Euopre, piece by piece. The US stopped such imperialization and returned power back to the citizens of those nations, even including Italy and Germany themselves after defeating them in war.

    The US never attempted to imperialize any of Europe. Even the badly needed resources of Russia were left to the Russians after the Soviet Union collapsed, certainly easy pickings for an “evil nation” like the US “empire” to consume. Why didn’t we? Hell, if the US were imperialistic as you accuse, we would have taken both Canada and Mexico by now (two sovereign countries rich in natural resources), probably without firing a shot and finishing the task in about 30 minutes.

    But no, you want to bring up little Hawaii to condemn your nation as “imperialistic.” If that weren’t so pathetic and it would be laughable. Why do you not call the rest of the states “empire building” by Philadelphia or Jamestown? Why are Liberals always OK with conquering, up until such time in history that the US arrives on the scene? There, you draw a line so as to condemn the US as the beginning of all evil. Just admit it………….for some perverted and demented inner motivation, you and the rest of the Liberals hate America, You will desperately scurry around searching for any thing you consider imperfection, and exaggerate anything imaginable to “justify” your perverted hate. Maybe you can understand why normal people identify Liberalism as a mental disorder rather than a political philosophy. Your policies have proven damaging to the very things you profess to protect, from the environment to bungled foreign policy puttin America in harm’s way.

    Who says you are a Liberal? You do. You’re against the US military, business, and freedom of choice in healthcare, all as you admit. Can’t get much more “Liberal than that.”

    If you’re honest, do the right thing. Recognize your demented thinking and willfully abstain from voting………….for the good of the nation.

  • Phocus2

    I see Jon Bershad has been crouching under Tommy Christopher’s desk. Beck is a courageous man who scares the crap out of real liberals and their stenographer/followers like the ‘journalists’ on Mediaite. When they get too close, paint ‘em as nuts.

    Anyway, Beck is right and O’Reilly is comfortable with the fence up his ass and is simply protecting his time slot enabled ratings. Most look at O’Reilly as a good show to hear from key people on, as long as Bill keeps his mouth shut.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Phocus2 says:
    “I see Jon Bershad has been crouching under Tommy Christopher’s desk. Beck is a courageous man…”

    Beck is a coward! That’s why you NEVER seen him actually argue with “idiots.”

    Beck is a hypocrite about this revolution, period! He was for democracy in the Middle East before Obama. Now, he’s against it.

    Beck is a hypocrite about free speech, context, national unity, education financing, restoring honor, use of the N-word, support for Islam, the 1st Amendment and mostly about telling the truth. Phocus, you’ve been manipulated by a cunning and sophisticated propagandist. O’Reilly is being nice to Beck here because they’re friends. Fact is, Beck is profoundly ignorant about the world; and the profoundly ignorant do not and cannot recognize this.

  • cnash

    Let’s not even get started about Bill O’ Reilly.

    “Tide goes in, tide goes out.

    You can’t argue that!” -Bill O’ Reilly.

    Yep. A true addition to our fine culture.

  • Davo

    Phocus2 said:
    Beck is a courageous man who scares the crap out of real liberals and their stenographer/followers like the ‘journalists’ on Mediaite. When they get too close, paint ‘em as nuts.

    Exactly. If Beck were crazy and inconsequential, the anti-American Left wouldn’t care. Beck to Liberals is like sunshine to Dracula……………..Liberals swarm and Dracula scurries for cover when light is shined on them. Just look at the speed with which Liberals panic when Beck identifies the root of a problem.

    Hang in there, Glenn……………America needs you.

  • writer

    So Beck is cunning and sophisticated and ignorant all at the same time. Hurry up with that bombshell!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Bershad wrote, “It stops sounding like news. It stops sounding like opinion.”

    Uhhh, Jon, Beck hasn’t sounded like any version of a news man ever, not even on CNN. Glenn Beck is all about promoting Glenn Beck and achieving fame and fortune. When he tells his minions to have others watch his show, that’s free and ingenuous marketing. Beck is a natural born marketer of Glenn Beck. When it comes to news and politics, Beck is in way over his head, but he never lets ignorance stop him for making an utter and complete fool of himself.

    People who do not hear his many and routine lies or do not or can not understand that he violates almost every principle that he claims to have because he’s a consummate hypocrite, people who support Beck through those clear and obvious character flaws are victims of his immensely powerful and effective manipulation. People who attack my understanding and analysis of Beck’s words and actions here are victims of Beck’s programming and manipulation. It (he) is so CONvincing of his righteousness and honesty, that they do not come close to realizing that they are manipulated. They are classic tools When you are a follower of a liar and a hypocrite, ignorance is bliss.

    For everyone else, there’s insight and analysis: http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/why-glenn-beck-isnt-crazy-and-millions.html

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    “writer” says:
    “So Beck is cunning and sophisticated and ignorant all at the same time.”

    If you have a basic understanding of the words, then you’d comprehend this. Beck’s sophistication is not cultural or political. His sophistication is in how well Beck manipulates and programs the minds of his viewers, turns conservatives and reactionaries into tools for his agenda. Yes, Beck is cunning, sophisticated, deceitful, hypocritical, intelligent and ignorant all at the same time; so don’t accuse me of oversimplifying my analysis of this charlatan.

    “writer” also says:
    “Hurry up with that bombshell!”

    How bad is your reading comprehension or memory for you to not know by now that the step of grabbing the skeleton in Beck’s closet by the collar bone and yanking it out into public view is not in my hands? I know the information. I know exactly what the skeleton is about, but I cannot substantiate the claim. Therefore, I patiently await for the publication before I replicate the meme. It would be smart for you to do the same, but I’m sure that is expecting way too much of a “writer” whose comments average two short sentences.

    “Writer,” have you read Glenn Beck is not crazy and millions of Americans believe him, or do you prefer ignorance in your commitments and adulations?

  • writer

    “Damn thee, Moby Dick! With my last breath I stab at thee!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ben-Pratt/713857896 Ben Pratt

    Davo said:
    Yes, you are quite ‘confused.’

    Germany and the Soviet Union attempted to build empires, as empires are always built………….by conquering existent sovereign nations and then claiming them as part of their own. The US has fought against both, who attempeted to imperialize Euopre, piece by piece. The US stopped such imperialization and returned power back to the citizens of those nations, even including Italy and Germany themselves after defeating them in war.

    The US never attempted to imperialize any of Europe. Even the badly needed resources of Russia were left to the Russians after the Soviet Union collapsed, certainly easy pickings for an “evil nation” like the US “empire” to consume. Why didn’t we? Hell, if the US were imperialistic as you accuse, we would have taken both Canada and Mexico by now (two sovereign countries rich in natural resources), probably without firing a shot and finishing the task in about 30 minutes.

    But no, you want to bring up little Hawaii to condemn your nation as “imperialistic.” If that weren’t so pathetic and it would be laughable. Why do you not call the rest of the states “empire building” by Philadelphia or Jamestown? Why are Liberals always OK with conquering, up until such time in history that the US arrives on the scene? There, you draw a line so as to condemn the US as the beginning of all evil. Just admit it………….for some perverted and demented inner motivation, you and the rest of the Liberals hate America, You will desperately scurry around searching for any thing you consider imperfection, and exaggerate anything imaginable to “justify” your perverted hate. Maybe you can understand why normal people identify Liberalism as a mental disorder rather than a political philosophy. Your policies have proven damaging to the very things you profess to protect, from the environment to bungled foreign policy puttin America in harm’s way.

    Who says you are a Liberal? You do. You’re against the US military, business, and freedom of choice in healthcare, all as you admit. Can’t get much more “Liberal than that.”

    If you’re honest, do the right thing. Recognize your demented thinking and willfully abstain from voting………….for the good of the nation.

    Do your research moron. We toppled a whole regime in hawaii, we occupied puerto rico and annexed it, we occupied the phillipines. If that’s not imperialism it’s certainly flirting with imperialism.

  • Annie Oakley

    The difficulty with “the young” is that they are far too easily manipulated by propaganda, i.e., “Hope and Change,” without an understanding of what the slogans mean. Hope for “what?” Change to “what?” How do you insure that “change” is in the best interests of the population if you do not know what “change” is being promised? The young tend to overlook the need for specifics in favor of sloganeering, thus they are shocked, shocked I say, when the “change” is unpalatable. Unfortunately, most of the under-thirty crowd engages in willful ignorance when it comes to questioning its leaders. They are not alone as a generation- we were all young once and we are all on the same journey, whether we like it or not.

    If you are not a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart; if you aren’t a conservative when you’re an adult, you have no intellect.

  • writer

    You’re right, GBR. One of us does seem to be obsessed over Glenn Beck.

  • zumpano

    that’s a very catchy phrase I’ve heard most my life, with little to no sense behind it. So, as an adult you lose your heart?

    TRUST ME:

    IF THE CHANGE IS REPUBLICANS TAKING AWAY YOUNG PEOPLES’ SOCIAL SECURITY

    AS IS BEING SUGGESTED AS AN OPTION BY PAUL RYAN, CANTOR, GOP, ETC

    YOUNG PEOPLE WILL NOT TRUST THE GOP/TEA AND EGYPT WILL LOOK LIKE A BIEBER CONCERT IN COMPARISON

    If being a conservative is SO SMART: how come all your polices flushed this country down the toilet

    LIKE WE WOULD FORGET AFTER TWO YEARS!?!?!?

    You must be the ones without the intellect…

  • Annie Oakley

    “If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

    “Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.”
    Winston Churchill quotes (British Orator, Author and Prime Minister during World War II. 1874-1965)

    Even if the Kenya connection didn’t exist, Obama would hate Churchill- his point of view was anathema to our man-child President.

    If you don’t understand the quote, zumpano, you must be a product of our educational system over the past twenty years- the one that has seen such a massive drop in the critical reading skills section on the SATs that they had to delete the section entirely.

  • writer

    GBR ‘reviews’ Glenn Beck with all the impartiality of Hitler reviewing Judaism.

  • cnash

    Davo, are you saying I shouldn’t vote? That I hate my country because of my views? That I hate the military? Did you not read my post? I am IN ISAF. Why do you think I’m here? Because I want to help.

    You sound like this:

    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102120028

    So Ann Coulter and you both think that anyone who exposes cracks or truths about what’s going on in this word should either not vote, or be jailed for it.

    Hmmm….sounds like you want a dictatorship. Are you sure you love this country? Because the last time I checked, this country stood for freedom, the right to vote, the right to dissent and speak, and the right to safeguard the constitution. To me, Ann Coulter sounds like a traitor to this great country. Maybe she should move to Iran.

  • Davo

    cnash said:
    Davo, are you saying I shouldn’t vote? That I hate my country because of my views? That I hate the military? Did you not read my post? I am IN ISAF. Why do you think I’m here? Because I want to help.

    You sound like this:

    http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201102120028

    So Ann Coulter and you both think that anyone who exposes cracks or truths about what’s going on in this word should either not vote, or be jailed for it.

    Hmmm….sounds like you want a dictatorship. Are you sure you love this country? Because the last time I checked, this country stood for freedom, the right to vote, the right to dissent and speak, and the right to safeguard the constitution. To me, Ann Coulter sounds like a traitor to this great country. Maybe she should move to Iran.

    Who are you addressing here? My name’s at the top of your post, but nothing else seems to be directed at what I wrote. Are you needing to construct a straw man to debate with, or are you needing some help reading what I said? Try again.

  • http://Mediaite.com uggugg

    Here is an idea Glenn Beck could ponder for helping the World Economies.
    Most young people entering politics today need more whiskers. A Debt be-gone idea?
    The budget, the budget, everyone has the answers. Here is a basic thought the experts should use as they boast of their knowledge as to which way to go with the budget to guarantee a sure fix. There was a time in history when few people on earth owned a Model T Ford, and most roads were dirt based with a few hard surfaced roads of one shared lane for either direction in many places, and then came hard surface roads with one lane in each direction. All this was costly and boggled the mind in that era gone by. That was only 100 years ago. During the early 1900’s our politicians would have laughed at the internet, television and 5 lane highways going in each direction, a car in every driveway, flying to all parts of the world in hours. Now they are trying to put the brakes on progress throughout the Planet Earth because they are scared of the future, (our future or their future?), I beg them to either lead with confidence and intelligence or get out of the road and don’t impede progress for all humanity trying to corner the good life for themselves by preaching scare scenarios of financial disaster ahead to slow progress while they mope around enjoying life with a steady income and the rest of the world waits and watches. This is a scenario for world disaster. It cannot be allowed to happen. If we don’t find a better live for the knowledgeable people of today’s world, they will find a better live for themselves and I don’t think the Global Rich will be happy with the results. You can’t suppress a Volcano and our world population is now a Volcano; accept this truth and the world will be a better place for all. “In honesty”, If money is the only problem, I have the answer. If you are a person of sound mind and principals you will probably agree, if you feel superior and intoxicated with wealth, you will probably disagree. Here is the shocker and it will work as well as anything anyone will come up with to compare. I would take the Federal Reserve, use them to pay off all the debt, of our Government taxpayers, when everyone who is owed money by our Government tax payers is paid in full, and is happy they didn’t lose any money they have loaned, I would look into my Bible and note the passage of debt forgiveness and at this time I would forgive the Tax payers from repaying the debt to the Federal Reserve. This Debt forgiveness could be implemented every 70 to 100 years as an amendment to Our Constitutions and should pertain to Government tax payer debt only. Don’t knock this if you don’t have a better idea. Inflation is a natural byproduct Keynesian Economics. Debt forgiveness is a Biblical idea that can be implemented by man, but how it is implemented will determine its success or failure. Think before you speak and you may come up with a better idea.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Annie Oakley says:
    “If you are not a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart; if you aren’t a conservative when you’re an adult, you have no intellect.”

    Or your youthful principles were shallow to begin with. There are Marxists who become conservative, and then there are conservatives who have become progressive (Huffington and Cenk Uygur). Your line might make great poetry, but it’s rather silly and shallow analysis…much like Beck’s in this case. The fact is that Beck is in the news again because he’s making silly and absurd claims and devaluing the revolution that just took place. His numbers are in decline, and Beck learned years ago that controversy sells. My blog is getting lots of looks from people trying to understand this shallow and ignorant charlatan, and so it seems to be working. Problem will become, people are tired of looking up to see the sky falling when day after day it remains where it should be.

    Remember Beck’s dramatic Hindenburg Oman show where the stock market technicals indicated a market crash? Over and over he fear mongered about that and then segued to commercial…for gold of course! At any rate, no market crash. Even O’Reilly has cast doubt on Beck’s baseless claims that the Western left wants to work with the reactionary Islamists for a new world order. He’s being absurd, and more and more conservatives are pointing this out. Only the tools are left in Beck’s camp, the ignorant and manipulated tools:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2011/02/why-glenn-beck-isnt-crazy-and-millions.html

    Speaking of, “writer” says:
    “You’re right, GBR. One of us does seem to be obsessed over Glenn Beck.”

    Again, one or two sentences of stupid and vapid comment. Never any depth, never any analysis. A writer you are not. A thinker you are not. An analyst you are not. Time to stop with your inane nonsense and either show some depth or stop embarrassing yourself. Hell, I’m ashamed for you since you seem to lack any capacity for shame.

    What you call obsession, dillweed, is a mission that stems from an obligation to use my higher education for something more than sitting on the couch watching the news. You have probably never taken on an important mission your entire life; hell, I’ve never seen you complete a freaking paragraph. You certainly are in no position to analyze what my mindset is: focus, determination, obsession….you have no idea. If anyone is obsessed, it seems that your inability to stop your fingers from taking shallow pot shots at me every time you see me post a comment suggests some kind of freaky obsession, perhaps your obsession to defend the liar, hypocrite and charlatan, Mr. Beck. I don’t know, but it’s clear that you have nothing of substance to add to these boards. You’re here, it seems, because you’re bored; but you’d be more in your element if you’d just go watch TV. There’s a NASCAR race on SPEED.

  • timcajun

    Davo says:

    Who are you addressing here? My name’s at the top of your post, but nothing else seems to be directed at what I wrote. Are you needing to construct a straw man to debate with, or are you needing some help reading what I said? Try again.

    ……………………….

    Davo is very proud of himself! You go proud tea man!

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