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Bill O’Reilly Challenges Ted Koppel: Give Me Examples Of My Lies And Shut Me Up For Good

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If a mainstream journalist were to associate Bill O’Reilly‘s name with the death of real news, it would normally be a safe bet to predict that The Factor host would come back swinging. Surprisingly, Ted Koppel (the author of the controversial proclamation), got off easy when O’Reilly’s harshest insult was to say “Koppel is at least my intellectual equal.”

If you missed Koppel’s opening shot, here’s the backstory.  On Sunday, The Washington Post featured an editorial by Koppel where he criticized the cable news channels for being dominated by opinion shows that treat opinion as fact and selectively only choose to report stories that advance their network’s partisan slant. And normally, whenever O’Reilly is attacked by name in the media, he is quick and jokingly lethal with his response.

Overall, O’Reilly seemed more perplexed than angry, assuming Koppel’s “ongoing beef” was due to the expanding influence of FOX News. O’Reilly, eager to learn Koppel’s rationale, wanted him to come in for questioning, but given how fun that sounds for Koppel, O’Reilly predicted that Koppel would be unable to “give me examples of me lying on the air, using an opinion not based on fact.  He couldn’t do it and if he could, he oughta come on in here and do it, and he’d shut me up for good.”

For all you Keith Olbermann fans, start a letter-writing campaign to Koppel, because if he appears on The Factor, this might be your chance to silence O’Reilly for good.  And speaking of Olbermann, who was also mentioned by Koppel, it is always fun to watch O’Reilly come so close, but ultimately refrain from mentioning his MSNBC rival by name.

Finally, just to clear up a point of confusion during the interview, conservative guest Tammy Bruce claimed Katie Couric previously said “she was looking forward to going into the midwest to mingle with the unwashed masses.” O’Reilly did not believe Couric actually made that statement, and in fact, it does seem to be an exaggeration, but you can be the judge of how much so.  Apparently, Couric said she was touring the “great unwashed middle of the country.”

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  • ModerateMan

    “unwashed masses” = “great unwashed middle of the country”

    There is no exaggeration. In fact, “great unwashed” is the more common derogatory term….. so you could say it’s worse.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Koppel would be the one shut up for good. Olbermann lies all the time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    1. Keith Olbermann has fans?
    2. O’Reilly and Olbermann are no more “rivals” than Johnny Carson and Chevy Chase were as late show hosts.
    3. It’s so ironic that Koppel criticizes the cable news channels for treating opinion as fact, when he made a living doing the same thing every day.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Haha…Bill called Megyn’s show objective.

    That just shows how stunningly clueless he is.

  • flagringo
  • Kird

    flagringo said:
    BOR = ignorant of blogs, that “internet thing”….

    Huh, maybe that’s a good thing.

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Haha…Bill called Megyn’s show objective.

    I thought that was funny too.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Haha…Bill called Megyn’s show objective.

    To the people who are giving me thumbs down for this comment come out in the fucking open and say right here that Megyn reports her stories w/o taking sides.

    Do it. Now.

    We all want to laugh at you.

  • http://libertyinprogressnow.wordpress.com/ ProgLib

    O’Reilly’s show is fact-based? Well, that’s news to… EVERYBODY!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    AND FOX NEEDS TO STOP INTERVIEWING FOX EMPLOYEES ABOUT WHETHER FOX IS FAIR AND BALANCED, LIKE ELLIS WHO JUST WANTS TO STAY ON FUCKING TV AND WILL NEVER GO TOO FAR TO BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS HIM.

    When you think about it that is a perfect example of what Koppel is saying….

    Fox interviewing Fox about Fox. lmfao

  • dummy123

    ModerateMan said:
    “unwashed masses” = “great unwashed middle of the country”

    There is no exaggeration. In fact, “great unwashed” is the more common derogatory term….. so you could say it’s worse.

    Being unwashed is a compliment from a lefty. It means you conserve water.

  • dummy123

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    AND FOX NEEDS TO STOP INTERVIEWING FOX EMPLOYEES ABOUT WHETHER FOX IS FAIR AND BALANCED, LIKE ELLIS WHO JUST WANTS TO STAY ON FUCKING TV AND WILL NEVER GO TOO FAR TO BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS HIM.

    When you think about it that is a perfect example of what Koppel is saying….

    Fox interviewing Fox about Fox. lmfao

    Ellis is as left as they come.
    You obviously never watch the great FOXNEWS!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    dummy123 said:
    Ellis is as left as they come.

    I dont care if he’s Che fucking Guevara. He is not going to be overly critical of the company that is paying him. That’s just common sense, something I expect a douche who calls himself “dummy123″ has none of.

  • Pablo

    For all you Keith Olbermann fans, start a letter-writing campaign to Koppel, because if he appears on The Factor, this might be your chance to silence O’Reilly for good.

    Nah. If BillO meant stuff like that when he said it, this would be a piece about The Beck Factor. “Shut up” is not in O’Reilly’s repertoire.

  • dummy123

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I dont care if he’s Che fucking Guevara. He is not going to be overly critical of the company that is paying him. That’s just common sense, something I expect a douche who calls himself “dummy123″ has none of.

    Hey douche liquid…..just admit you never watched Ellis on FOX.
    Ellis is as left as they come and is never is afraid to criticize evil FOX……..they pay him to do just that.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    dummy123 said:
    Ellis is as left as they come

    I watch Ellis on Fox News Watch every Sunday.
    Neutered, he is.
    He doesn’t want to lose the gig.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    dummy123 said:
    Ellis….. is never is afraid to criticize evil FOX……..they pay him to do just that.

    You’re too stupid to see the lunacy of this statement. lolol

  • dummy123

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You’re too stupid to see the lunacy of this statement. lolol

    you watched Ellis for 10 minutes on Sunday……..and now you are an Ellis expert???

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I watch Ellis on Fox News Watch every Sunday.

    He doesn’t want to lose the gig.

    Like Jane, Eric and Neil did for being too “outspoken”.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    dummy123 said:
    you watched Ellis for 10 minutes on Sunday……..and now you are an Ellis expert???

    Dude, just stfu. Everyone who knows me here (on both sides) knows I watch more Fox news than just about anyone, including you.

    watta dummy

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  • skyfet

    Wha an Irony! he want’s to talk about objectivity and smartness and he invited her.

  • m

    Olbermann is right. O’Reilly looks old and tired, out of his game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    ” Apparently, Couric said she was touring the “great unwashed middle of the country.”

    Which is different from what Tammy Bruce said how?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    something I expect a douche who calls himself “dummy123″ has none of.

    You should complain about soemones phony name? LOL. You are the coward hiding behind a phony name to insult people. We know you do that so that no one will kick your ass.

  • ChrisNH

    Olbermann talked about the ‘False God of Objectivity’ yesterday. Well, we ought to humanize that ‘False God’ and give him a name. His name is Dan Rather.

  • TfT

    It will be interesting to see if Koppel has the guts to appear on the O’Reilly factor. Koppel deserves the broadsides he is getting; his piece was a piece of work and illustrative of the elite nature of the so called paragons of journalism. Koppel is nothing more than Keith on a broadcast network, he is and always has been a lefty who does views not news.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    To the people who are giving me thumbs down for this comment come out in the fucking open and say right here that Megyn reports her stories w/o taking sides. Do it. Now. We all want to laugh at you.

    Am I allowed to come out in the open if I didn’t give your comment a thumbs down? They were talking about objectivity. Does Megyn offer her opinions on stories she reports on? Yeah, her show is called Kelly’s Court. She’s a lawyer….ya know….Kelly’s “Court.” Much of the show is a legal segment, that’s what she’s there for. When you watch her on Fox, does she always line up hard right or hard left? Hell no. Absolutely not, nont even close. That’s what O’Reilly was talking about. If you think she does, and of course you’d say hard right, then it’s you who should be laughed at.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Andy, you have to remember to a lib news is what THEY think it is. Liberal lies are not lies they are the truth. Human caused global warming is real because they say it is. Don’t bother them with science or facts.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Dronetek said:
    ” Apparently, Couric said she was touring the “great unwashed middle of the country.” Which is different from what Tammy Bruce said how?

    Tammy said that Couric had said she was going to the midwest, apparently Couric said she was looking forward to going on the road to tour the “great unwashed middle of the country.”

    It’s laughable either way. After saying that, Couric hit the road and went to Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, and New Brunswick, NJ. That’s her “unwashed middle” LOL. I wonder if Koppel thinks that one of the main representatives of network news, Couric, is straight and unbiased. He probably does, since she represents the Cronkite, Rather, Koppel view that he’s accustomed to – slanting toward the side that he’s on.

  • The Real Royal King

    gordonbloyershow said:
    You should complain about soemones phony name? LOL. You are the coward hiding behind a phony name to insult people. We know you do that so that no one will kick your ass.

    But, isn’t Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower just your full of air, I mean on air name? Weren’t you Christened Yves Pierre Dupree-LaFontane?

  • The Real Royal King

    TfT said:
    It will be interesting to see if Koppel has the guts to appear on the O’Reilly factor. Koppel deserves the broadsides he is getting; his piece was a piece of work and illustrative of the elite nature of the so called paragons of journalism. Koppel is nothing more than Keith on a broadcast network, he is and always has been a lefty who does views not news.

    What broadcast network? Koppel works for NPR and the BBC World News. Last I checked, NPR was radio and BBC World News was cable/satellite.

  • The Real Royal King

    What I find most interesting about Bill-o’s comments is his presumption he does news, deals with facts. Every time one of these FOX “News” personalities gets his or her teat in a wringer, he or she claims he or she does commentary. Otherwise, it’s news or, better still “fact-based opinion”. Of course, compared to Beckerhead, Bill-o is merely a piker in this regard. It’s “fact based opinion” that George Soros is involved in a number of international conspiracies, but when these conspiracies rise to Holocaust Denial, Beckerhead is merely commenting. Let’s be a bit more precise here. If it’s crap, let’s forever call it crap. If it’s krap, let’s forever call it krap.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Andy, you have to remember to a lib news is what THEY think it is. Liberal lies are not lies they are the truth. Human caused global warming is real because they say it is. Don’t bother them with science or facts.

    Before cable, many millions trusted people like Dan Rather and Peter Jennings as the straight and unbiased voice of news. What an absolute joke that is. Two guys that were pretty much Keith Olbermann, just didn’t act like assholes about it. Koppel is full of it beyond words.

    The obsession with Fox on the left is very funny, and very, very pathetic at the same time.

  • disenlightened

    I never could take Koppel seriously. The hair, the voice and the puffed-up pretentiousness and ego forced me to change the channel every time.

  • The Real Royal King

    Andy Lamb said:
    The obsession with Fox on the left is very funny, and very, very pathetic at the same time.

    I think it more a curiosity. A scratch-my-head wonderment that some many people are content to hand over their lives to a bunch of blabbering, reactionary White men who aren’t particularly well informed and whose programs have poor production values. I never understood what some people saw in “Gilligan’s Island” and I don’t understand what a much smaller segment of Amerikans see in the anger and mindless, ill-informed commentary of Beckerhead, Bill-o and O’Hannity and the other blabbering, ill-informed White man, O’Van Susteren.

  • cjd ohio 1

    matthews, shultz, olbermann, maddows, o’donnoll, are not any better king

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    The Real Royal King said:
    I think it more a curiosity.

    Nah, it’s an obsession. It really is.

    The Real Royal King said:
    A scratch-my-head wonderment that some many people are content to hand over their lives to a bunch of blabbering, reactionary White men who aren’t particularly well informed and whose programs have poor production values.

  • Some_Dude

    I guess O’Reilly has never heard of Google, YouTube, or Al Franken’s books.

  • Some_Dude

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I dont care if he’s Che fucking Guevara.

    Hola

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    The Real Royal King said:
    A scratch-my-head wonderment that some many people are content to hand over their lives to a bunch of blabbering, reactionary White men who aren’t particularly well informed and whose programs have poor production values.

    That is no way to talk about guys like Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, and Tom Brokaw.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    matthews, shultz, olbermann, maddows, o’donnoll, are not any better king

    Correct. They are a great deal worse.

  • murf

    Some_Dude said:
    I guess O’Reilly has never heard of Google, YouTube, or Al Franken’s books.

    So judging by your Avatar you have no problem with Che executing POW’s ?

    ( you’re probably were against the previous admin. waterboarding , huh ?)

  • ChrisNH

    The Real Royal King said:
    content to hand over their lives to a bunch of blabbering, reactionary White men who aren’t particularly well informed and whose programs have poor production values.

    Can we get that big MSNBC billboard advertisement up here again? You know, the one that showed their nightly lineup of ‘blabbering, reactionary White men’ on MSNBC? The one in which the faces of the ‘talent’ were made exceptionally ‘white’ in order to ‘attract viewers?’ You mean THOSE ‘White men?’

  • fenngibbon

    ProgLib said:
    O’Reilly’s show is fact-based? Well, that’s news to… EVERYBODY!

    If it’s not fact-based, it must be based on lies. Name some examples where O’Reilly has lied himself or reported the lies of others as facts.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Andy says:
    That is no way to talk about guys like Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, and Tom Brokaw.

    Yeah, I miss the objectivety of those non-biased journalists like Jennings, who when the American people kicked out dems in favor of Republicans, said we were having a temper tantrum. Good times!

  • Papinian
  • Papinian
  • Papinian

    Let me know if you need more, it’s too easy.

  • Papinian

    Keep those thumbs down coming. That means you watched! LOL.

  • Papinian

    By the way, interesting article by Frum.
    Exerpt:

    “Too often, conservatives dupe themselves. They wrap themselves in closed information systems based upon pretend information. In this closed information system, banks can collapse without injuring the rest of the economy, tax cuts always pay for themselves and Congressional earmarks cause the federal budget deficit. Even the market collapse has not shaken some conservatives out of their closed information system. It enfolded them more closely within it. This is how to understand the Glenn Beck phenomenon. Every day, Beck offers alternative knowledge — an alternative history of the United States and the world, an alternative system of economics, an alternative reality. As corporate profits soar, the closed information system insists that the free-enterprise system is under assault. As prices slump, we are warned of imminent hyperinflation. As black Americans are crushed under Depression-level unemployment, the administration’s policies are condemned by some conservatives as an outburst of Kenyan racial revenge against the white overlord. ”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/magazine/14FOB-idealab-t.html?_r=2&ref=politics

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Only libs like you listen to David Frum, for the same reason you like Mccain and his daughter, they bash conservatives. Yawn.

  • Papinian

    Exactly, out of your closed information system. Right!!!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Hey, maybe you should start listening to Pat Cadell and Doug Shoen.

  • Papinian

    I listen to as many sources as I can, you should too.

  • BlackWidow

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Only libs like you listen to David Frum, for the same reason you like Mccain and his daughter, they bash conservatives. Yawn.

    Ahhhh do they hurt your little feelings Michele?????

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Papinian said:
    Let me know if you need more, it’s too easy.

    No, that was enough. I can take only so much of videos posted by “liberal viewer” and “the young Turks.” I prefer at least a shred of objectivity in what I watch.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Spider Lady, I’d respond, but you have a habit of bolting when I challenge you, so it’s kind of a waste of my breath.

  • Papinian

    Andy Lamb said:
    No, that was enough. I can take only so much of videos posted by “liberal viewer” and “the young Turks.” I prefer at least a shred of objectivity in what I watch.

    Like Fox “News”? LOL

  • Papinian

    It is scary out of the closed information system!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    I have to say I did enjoy the clip on Amsterdam. Everything that is illegal here is legal there, drugs, prostitution, street hustling. And the crime rate is “low”? You don’t say. Other than murder, is anything else illegal there? Check out some travel websites, and see what travelers have to say about pickpockets and street hustlers in Amsterdam, where there is rampant poverty.

    There’s a reason much of the country thinks the move toward the right is a good thing. It’s discussed in today’s LA Times –
    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-dutch4jan04,1,1872179.story?page=1&ctrack=4&cset=true

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Andy Lamb said:
    There’s a reason much of the country thinks the move toward the right is a good thing. It’s discussed in today’s LA Times –http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-fg-dutch4jan04,1,1872179.story?page=1&ctrack=4&cset=true

    When I say much of the country, I mean the Netherlands. Of course, the kids who spend all day stoned disagree.

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Only libs like you listen to David Frum, for the same reason you like Mccain and his daughter, they bash conservatives. Yawn.

    Well, Michelle-in-Utah, in your long, long history of abject dimwittery, that is one of the more dimwitted statements you have made. Seems to me your Republican Senator McCain trounced a Tea Party candidate in the Republican primary. Gramps must enjoy popularity in the Republican party.

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Spider Lady, I’d respond, but you have a habit of bolting when I challenge you, so it’s kind of a waste of my breath.

    Congratulations Spider Lady. You trounced Michelle-in-Utah again. Don’t get a big head, however. It’s about as difficult as getting a Cub Scout to eat an ice cream cone or persuading a prostitute to have sex with you after she has gotten a Master Card approval.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Papinian said:
    Like Fox “News”? LOL

    No, I miss the days when the “news” was reported by straight, honest guys like Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather, and Tom Brokaw. Their “news” was the real “news”, it was “news” from the true left….I mean the true truth. It represented the left – I mean honest – view of the “news” LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Mangan/100000213524770 David Mangan

    I was on a couple of Nightline programs waayyy back in the day and Koppel back then was a man with solid values—refusing on one show I participated in to discuss a man killed in an unfortunate situation because of the very poor taste of insulting the deceased, especially the newly deceased.

    Koppel was classy back then, but now he is a snob and hopelessly over the hill, trying desperately it seems for even a snippet of his former fame and influence and being willing to say silly and condescending things to get his mug back on the air.

    Just can it, Ted, and you’re only half-right. To say that Fox and MessNBC are equally counterfactual is complete and utter bullshit. Cut the crap and crawl back into your bolt hole.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    King says:

    Congratulations Spider Lady. You trounced Michelle-in-Utah again.

    That makes absolutely NO sense at all. You are congratulating her for running from being challenged. I can see how that’s something you would admire.

  • The Real Royal King

    David Mangan said:
    I was on a couple of Nightline programs waayyy back in the day and Koppel back then was a man with solid values—refusing on one show I participated in to discuss a man killed in an unfortunate situation because of the very poor taste of insulting the deceased, especially the newly deceased.

    Koppel was classy back then, but now he is a snob and hopelessly over the hill, trying desperately it seems for even a snippet of his former fame and influence and being willing to say silly and condescending things to get his mug back on the air.

    Just can it, Ted, and you’re only half-right. To say that Fox and MessNBC are equally counterfactual is complete and utter bullshit. Cut the crap and crawl back into your bolt hole.

    But have you ever been on the Basil Marceaux Show? I mean the Gordon Blower Show?

  • The Real Royal King

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    King says:

    Congratulations Spider Lady. You trounced Michelle-in-Utah again.

    That makes absolutely NO sense at all. You are congratulating her for running from being challenged. I can see how that’s something you would admire.

    Whoa there Girl Friend! You’ve got your Knickers in a Knot. You can’t challenge anyone here, except perhaps Kumquat and Tumbleweed.

  • milynily

    Sounds like BOR and OLby have a common complaint,time for a face to face? I’d buy a ticket.

  • StewartIII

    ChickaBOOMer| Keith Olbermann: Don’t Touch My Junk
    http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2010/11/keith-olbermann-dont-touch-my-junk.html

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    gordontheblowhardwithashow says:
    “Koppel would be the one shut up for good. Olbermann lies all the time.”

    You’re so quick with that accusation, blow hard with a show; how come you never point to any of the obvious and easily provable lies that Beck tells. Beck tells more lies in a week than Olbermann tells in a year.

    Hell. Beck told more lies during his speech on the Washington Mall than Olbermann tells in a week of shows. Just like the right-wing media watchdogs group, MRC, you point to flaws in liberal media and turn two blind eyes toward the onslaught of lies, false claims, deceptions and smears coming from the liars that you want to believe.

    Blow hard, I want to believe Olbermann, but unlike you I usually know when I hear Olbermann lie, and I point that out. You, on the other hand, are not honest enough to point to something absurd and false that Beck says, or something false that O’Reilly says (that happens far less often than it does for Beck). That’s because you wear ideological blinders in your mind. Facts that you don’t agree with are dismissed in your far right, self-enclosed media sphere as “lies.”

    Where have I pointed out an Olbermann lie?

    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/07/documenting-glenn-becks-false-claims.html

    Tell me, Gordon the blow hard with a show, where have you ever documented a lie told by Beck?

  • glenn113

    What O’reilly is very convincing at is that he bases facts on his opinion. He’s very good at that.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The Real Royal King said:
    But, isn’t Basil Marceaux, I mean Gordon Blower just your full of air, I mean on air name? Weren’t you Christened Yves Pierre Dupree-LaFontane?

    I love the way you make comments that only you understand. Since nothing you just posted relates to anything that is true it falls on deaf ears.
    You need to go back to going door to door in Austin. Find those democrat votes.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    glenn113 says:
    “What O’reilly is very convincing at is that he bases facts on his opinion.”

    I did some research on BillO to respond to this story, and I have to write that O’Reilly doesn’t hold a candle to Beck when it comes to making up facts.

    O’Reilly is biased, but I have no beef with that. I’ll grant conservative commentators their bias. I have to; I grant liberal commentators their bias. If bias was the only thing wrong with FoxPAC, I would not have started The Glenn Beck Review.

    Do a search at Media Matters for America on O’Reilly. They have a lot of posts about him, but the words “false claim” are not in the title much as all, at least recently.

    I hope Koppel has better luck than I.

  • Eric

    @gordonbloyershow Do you have a life by any chance?? Do you just refresh your browser all day hoping that you can find a story about a liberal.

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