There was nothing for the panel to be uncomfortable about. Brokaw made a fool out of himself with his stupid comment. He is the joke. Martel can go with Tom and be his body guard.

And he should and you should too.

This is where you Coasties differ from us folks who live in “Fly over” Country!

You folks live where only criminals have guns and you folks are afraid of them
We live where everyone has a gun and we are not afraid of them.

Had more people in line last week to see the Congresswoman had guns, I sincerely doubt that AZ would bury 6 of their citizens.
I too would feel much safer in a restaurant in AZ, than I would in NYC. Only the perp’s would be packing in the City….

Frannie, your title suggests you are trying to start something. You know he was mocking his statement and not wishing him harm. Knock it off you leftwing hack!

Well if Billo is going to say that as a HAHAHA, I will say this as a HAHA, I hope that a terrorist organization bombs Fox News with Blower and Michelle From Hanoi inside, Now would that be funny.

Seriously one week after a national tragedy and that idiot fool along with those on Dead Eye making light of something like this. Then again it s Fox News who’s slogan should be “We hate, so you can kill”

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
your title suggests you are trying to start something

That is how the lefties in the media do it today…put the message in the headline. That way, the message they want gets out…and God knows that “lefty and understanding the underlying facts of anything” are an oxymoron and should never be used in the same sentance.

Tom should stay out of any bars , except on ladies’ night , since he keeps his TV make-up on 24/7 .

KING on the throne . I just wish to report to all my fans that I just flew in from Memphis , and boy , are my arms tired . That was a joke I used in my old vaudeville act . Nobody got me then either . Anyway , it was in show business that I fell in love with the audience , the footlights , the costumes , the make – up . Yes , the make – up ! Eventually , I took to wearing it all day , even when I did not have a performance . Well , that became an issue that Dr . Weems and I are still working out . So , has Ms . Palin been in the news lately ? I was in Tennessee , where the Internet has not made an appearance yet , so I have been out of the loop . © Λ Θ Π

Tom Brokaw walks into a bar with a duck on his head. The bartender says, “Hey, you can’t bring that in here.” The duck says, “I can’t help it. He’s stuck to my ass.”

Badda Bing!

BatBoy said:
And he should and you should too.

This is where you Coasties differ from us folks who live in “Fly over” Country!

You folks live where only criminals have guns and you folks are afraid of them
We live where everyone has a gun and we are not afraid of them.

Had more people in line last week to see the Congresswoman had guns, I sincerely doubt that AZ would bury 6 of their citizens.
I too would feel much safer in a restaurant in AZ, than I would in NYC. Only the perp’s would be packing in the City….

Where’s the facts on this, Batboy? The FACTS of this case was that there WAS an armed citizen at the scene.
His name is Joe Zamudio. And the problem with your fantasy is….he was poised to shoot the wrong guy.

http://parkerspitzer.blogs.cnn.com/category/joe-zamudio/

–Cobra

Cobra said:
Where’s the facts on this, Batboy? The FACTS of this case was that there WAS an armed citizen at the scene.

He was not on the scene when the shooting took place…he was in the Walgreens.

When he got over to the crowd the shooter was being held down by two people…no need to pull a gun then.

That my friend is GUN CONTROL.

Quit making up the facts.

Scott Heckman said:
Seriously one week after a national tragedy and that idiot fool along with those on Dead Eye making light of something like this. Then again it s Fox News who’s slogan should be “We hate, so you can kill”

I agree.This was in Bad taste.

Who are these Children in Grown Up Suits and why are they discussing an ACTUAL journalist? Is this YouTube parody? Explain please….
Sarah “My Brain is Failin” Palin walks into a bar ( with a shotgun and a Pageant sash). A wild eyed liberal approaches her and says, “Hey aint you that Palin chick?” Sarah P replies,” Well, Katie, gosh ya know I’m not real sure. Let me get back to you on that. I’ll be flying to the city of Europe right after I finish this venison sandwich, but I promise to find out as soon as I return.” ” Pardon me? You are concerned that i may not posses the necessary investigative and reasoning skills to figure out my name? Well, gee, i guess we’ll just have to cross that bridge when we get to….oh darn……….”

“Brokaw: “I Would Be Nervous Going Into A Bar” In Arizona”

..BUT, he’d be delighted to fly in an airplane full of muslims and lunatic-left d-crat socialists chanting “PRAISE ALLAH” and “Allahu Akbar”.

npr FIRED williams for making such a “personal” state. What do you think the N(itwit)B(iased-socialist)C(lowns) network will do to lamestream socialist brokow, who still has a relationship with them? —GIVE HIM A RAISE, of course.

ROCKSTEADY said:
should be “We hate, so you can kill”
I agree.This was in Bad taste.

Scott Heckman said:
Then again it s Fox News who’s slogan should be “We hate, so you can kill”

Ahhhh the “Emotional LEFTIES, making up the story as the days go on!

And talk about BAD TASTE… “We hate, so you can kill” is BAD TASTE – I agree 100%! Scott you quit that right now….you Baaaaaad Boy…with emphasis on the BOY!

Actually, there were a couple shootings at Phoenix strip clubs recently. At one around Christmas the guy shot up the club then ran outside and got hit by a car. Karma!

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2010/12/28/two_killed_in_arizona_strip_club_shooting/

My favorite part of this whole episode is O’Reilly’s inability to say “canapes” ( finger sandwiches with upscale goop like, oh I don’t know: CAVIAR!), which a commoner like him would never eat…he probably prefers corndogs. Then Mediaite compounds this by writing “can of peas”, which one would almost never have in a restaurant, even in Arizona.

This “joke” was in extreme bad taste. But Bill O will get a pass because he is on Faux Noise.
If there had been more people with guns at the recent “massacre” in AZ, there would likely be more dead people. People were running every which way and probably would have resulted in their getting shot by stray bullets. When people panic, unless the person with the gun had nerves of steel and military training to back that up, they probably would have started shooting and not have stopped until their guns were empty.

The Lantern of Truth said:
Tom should stay out of any bars , except on ladies’ night , since he keeps his TV make-up on 24/7 . KING on the throne . I just wish to report to all my fans that I just flew in from Memphis , and boy , are my arms tired . That was a joke I used in my old vaudeville act . Nobody got me then either . Anyway , it was in show business that I fell in love with the audience , the footlights , the costumes , the make – up . Yes , the make – up ! Eventually , I took to wearing it all day , even when I did not have a performance . Well , that became an issue that Dr . Weems and I are still working out . So , has Ms . Palin been in the news lately ? I was in Tennessee , where the Internet has not made an appearance yet , so I have been out of the loop . © Λ Θ Π

Lantern Man—you are funny and I look forward to reading your comments. I love your sense of humor, keep writing.

Royce Earnest Jr said:
If there had been more people with guns at the recent “massacre” in AZ, there would likely be more dead people.

I doubt it…but it is a good “emotional” story you tell!

This another useless exercise in attemting to stir controversy.

I watched that episode. O’Reilly wasn’t “imagining” Brokaw getting shot in a bar. He was mocking Brokaw’s stement and mocking what Brokaw must have been thinking to say such a stupid thing.

But…saying that O’reilly had violent fantasiea about Brokaw makes a better story, doesn’t it Meidaite?

BruceGoose said:
Actually, there were a couple shootings at Phoenix strip clubs recently. At one around Christmas the guy shot up the club then ran outside and got hit by a car. Karma!

Thank God that Plaxico Burress had the good manners to only shoot himself .

Laurence Glavin said:
My favorite part of this whole episode is O’Reilly’s inability to say “canapes”

How about :”appetizers” that’s what the menu calls them ?

I wonder if “Fox” people would be so light hearted if Palin was laying in the hospital with part of her skull in the fridge.Again anyone making light of any of this is in poor taste.

Doesn’t Brokaw live in Montana? Isn’t that big game country? I doubt any one there carries a gun, concealed or otherwise.

BatBoy said:
He was not on the scene when the shooting took place…he was in the Walgreens.

When he got over to the crowd the shooter was being held down by two people…no need to pull a gun then.

That my friend is GUN CONTROL.

Quit making up the facts.

LOL, you’re full of it! Did you watch Zamudio in his OWN WORDS. He was AT THE SCENE. He saw a man holding a gun there, and told him to drop it. He was prepared to SHOOT the guy holding the gun. Zamudio himself, on camera, admits that he didn’t know who the shooter (s) was/were when he got there.

Civilians aren’t required to by law to go through tactical training or adhere to rules of engagement, so these “wild west” vigilante fantasies are dangerous and unrealistic. Unarmed people were the heroes that saved the day, Bat Boy, or do you deny that was the case as well?

–Cobra

Brokaw’s uninformed comment is the reason I live in Arizona. So stay scared Brokaw, we are all killers, born bad and incited over healthcare! And we don’t want your kind here! We like walking on sidewalks at night observing falling stars and I would be frightened if I saw your liberal arse coming out of a bar down here.

ROCKSTEADY said:
Again anyone making light of any of this is in poor taste

That is what you are doing….and yes…your comments are in poor taste!

Scott Heckman says:
Well if Billo is going to say that as a HAHAHA, I will say this as a HAHA, I hope that a terrorist organization bombs Fox News with Blower and Michelle From Hanoi inside, Now would that be funny.

Seriously one week after a national tragedy and that idiot fool along with those on Dead Eye making light of something like this. Then again it s Fox News who’s slogan should be “We hate, so you can kill”

Take your FAUX outrage and shove it!! This is why the left has NO credibility anymore. It’s like your false charges of racism. You’ve used it SO many times where there is none, you are now just little liberals who cry wolf. NO ONE in their right mind thinks BillO was suggesting anything here other than mocking Tom for his elitist attitude towards middle American. Get over yourselves because it ain’t working anymore.

BatBoy said:
That is what you are doing….and yes…your comments are in poor taste!

How am I making light of this?How is my comments in POOR Taste?

Let me provide some evidence for my last post. On the thread for the original article about Tom’s comment, I and another posted suggested he stay out of our states. The response by a liberal poster (James) was Oh my gosh Mediaite, you need to report these threats. Dangerous teabaggers on the looose!! Do you see how ridiculous you guys sound?

writer said:
Tom Brokaw walks into a bar with a duck on his head. The bartender says, “Hey, you can’t bring that in here.” The duck says, “I can’t help it. He’s stuck to my ass.” Badda Bing!

Now that was funny, I don’t care who ya are!
With Apologies to “Larry the Cable Guy”
LMAO Big Time!!!!

Cobra said:
LOL, you’re full of it! Did you watch Zamudio in his OWN WORDS. He was AT THE SCENE. He saw a man holding a gun there, and told him to drop it. He was prepared to SHOOT the guy holding the gun. Zamudio himself, on camera, admits that he didn’t know who the shooter (s) was/were when he got there. Civilians aren’t required to by law to go through tactical training or adhere to rules of engagement, so these “wild west” vigilante fantasies are dangerous and unrealistic. Unarmed people were the heroes that saved the day, Bat Boy, or do you deny that was the case as well? –Cobra

You might want to watch your own link again. Hey didn’t pull his gun, he unlocked his safety, left it holstered and then grabbed the other guys arm. Your own link, is absolutley a perfect testimonial and example why citizens should have the right to carry. Much as Spitzer tried, he didn’t do anything but prove why it’s a good idea to have carry permits.

Cobra said:
LOL, you’re full of it! Did you watch Zamudio in his OWN WORDS. He was AT THE SCENE. He saw a man holding a gun there, and told him to drop it. He was prepared to SHOOT the guy holding the gun. Zamudio himself, on camera, admits that he didn’t know who the shooter (s) was/were when he got there. Civilians aren’t required to by law to go through tactical training or adhere to rules of engagement, so these “wild west” vigilante fantasies are dangerous and unrealistic. Unarmed people were the heroes that saved the day, Bat Boy, or do you deny that was the case as well? –Cobra

Thanks Cobra, you made my point for me.

“He was AT THE SCENE.” – After the shooting had stopped and the shooter was on the ground.

“He saw a man holding a gun there, and told him to drop it. ” Yes that happened!

“He was prepared to SHOOT the guy holding the gun.” – Yes he said that, but he assessed the situation and did NOT shoot anyone.

“Zamudio himself, on camera, admits that he didn’t know who the shooter (s) was/were when he got there.” – Yest this is true, because he was in Walgreens when the shooting took place!

“Unarmed people were the heroes that saved the day, , Bat Boy, or do you deny that was the case as well?
” – Yes they did stop the shooter – after he emptied his clip in the now 6 Dead People and several other wounded!

My point is if Zamudio, there is a very good possibility that many of those dead today would be alive and many who were shot would NOT have been shot.

The difference between you and me, I trust the good guy with the gun, you are OK with laying down and taking the bullets.

BatBoy said:
The difference between you and me, I trust the good guy with the gun, you are OK with laying down and taking the bullets.

Exactly. It’s been my experience most gun opponents have never had one shoved in their face. I have. It changes the way you look at a lot of things. You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Another thing Brokaw got wrong, the carry laws in Arizona don’t allow for guns in bars. It is illegal to carry a firearm into a bar. Of course as noted above (the strip club shooting in Phoenix) that law isn’t really effective anyway because the criminals don’t pay attention to the “statutes” anyway you flipping morons.

Jesus you people are stupid.

timzank said:
Jesus you people are stupid.

Amen!

BatBoy said:
The difference between you and me, I trust the good guy with the gun, you are OK with laying down and taking the bullets.

Give it a rest. Did Zamudio have some “good guy” badge or jacket that alerted everybody that he’s a “good guy?”

Second, people WITHOUT guns at the scene didn’t just “lay down.” They disarmed the punk and took him down.

timzank said:
Exactly. It’s been my experience most gun opponents have never had one shoved in their face. I have. It changes the way you look at a lot of things. You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

Let me get this straight. You had a gun “shoved in your face.” My bet is that you didn’t reach for your own gun, and draw it, because you wouldn’t be typing into this blog right now. It’s one thing to favor responsible gun ownership. It’s another to sit here and proliferate these Wyatt Earp/Dirty Harry fantasies about gunslinging vigilantism when trained police officers in shootouts only hit their targets 11% of the time.

–Cobra

I’m sure most bar patrons in Arizona heaved a sigh of relief after he made that remark. One less ass hole they will have to put up with when they elbow up to the bar .

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Let me provide some evidence for my last post. On the thread for the original article about Tom’s comment, I and another posted suggested he stay out of our states. The response by a liberal poster (James) was Oh my gosh Mediaite, you need to report these threats. Dangerous teabaggers on the looose!! Do you see how ridiculous you guys sound?

Bunch of little dweebs. Good thing libs dont have guns, theyd be too chickenshit to use them.

Cobra, is it the fact that guys like Zamudio doing the right thing that pisses you off because it shows that plain old regular citizens can make split second correct decisions when necessary? Is it just the sheer knowledge that people really don’t need the nanny state to make the correct decision?

You just can’t stand the fact this guy did everything right. Hilarious. I hope for your sake you don’t ever encounter a violent crime, cause you’re the kind of victim the bad guys shoot anyway because they can sense you’re a pussy.

What’s really ironic is, ordinary citizens, carrying firearms, are the very reason people like Cobra have the right free speech today.

Cobra said:
LOL, you’re full of it! Did you watch Zamudio in his OWN WORDS. He was AT THE SCENE. He saw a man holding a gun there, and told him to drop it. He was prepared to SHOOT the guy holding the gun. Zamudio himself, on camera, admits that he didn’t know who the shooter (s) was/were when he got there.

Civilians aren’t required to by law to go through tactical training or adhere to rules of engagement, so these “wild west” vigilante fantasies are dangerous and unrealistic. Unarmed people were the heroes that saved the day, Bat Boy, or do you deny that was the case as well?

–Cobra

He had his safety off, he had his hand on his pistol and he left it in his holster. It’s called training. There is company called Frontsight near LV and they provide VERY thorough training. My brother took it. I hope to in the near future.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Frannie, your title suggests you are trying to start something. You know he was mocking his statement and not wishing him harm. Knock it off you leftwing hack!

Just like he was “joking” when he said someone should decapitate Dana Milbank of the Washington Post eh? What if Chris Matthews had said the same thing about Sarah Palin? You would be the biggest accuser…AND YOU KNOW IT! It amuses me how you never notice your blatant biases. This was a joke in bad taste considering the context, period. I would repudiate a liberal who said it in a heartbeat.

Cobra said:
Second, people WITHOUT guns at the scene didn’t just “lay down.” They disarmed the punk and took him down.

Let me finish your sentance for you….
” …people WITHOUT guns at the scene didn’t just “lay down.” They disarmed the punk and took him down” …after the shooter unloaded hisclip on people attending Congress on the Corner,killing 6 and wounding God knows how many more!

I do wish Zamudio was there when the shooting started…those people did not have to die that day!

Give me a break, Frances. THIS is a story? Puhleeze.

Cobra said:
Give it a rest. Did Zamudio have some “good guy” badge or jacket that alerted everybody that he’s a “good guy?”

Second, people WITHOUT guns at the scene didn’t just “lay down.” They disarmed the punk and took him down.

Let me get this straight. You had a gun “shoved in your face.” My bet is that you didn’t reach for your own gun, and draw it, because you wouldn’t be typing into this blog right now. It’s one thing to favor responsible gun ownership. It’s another to sit here and proliferate these Wyatt Earp/Dirty Harry fantasies about gunslinging vigilantism when trained police officers in shootouts only hit their targets 11% of the time.

–Cobra

And I personally know three people with CC involved in shootings within the last 18 months. One actually a firearms sales rep in a convenience store were a hold up went down (Sales Rep 1 Armed bandit 0) A liquor store owner when two punks came in to rob him (Liquor Store owner 2 Punks 0) and a state lobbyist attacked by a thug with a knife as he was getting into his car. He wasn’t carrying and got a very bad stabbing wound and because the lobbyist tried fighting back the thug bragged that he was going to gut him. Fortunately the lobbyist had his hand gun under his driver side seat, he reached in and pulled out his 357 (Lobbyist 0.5 -points lost for being stabbed, thug 0)
Guns protect innocent Americans over 200,000 times a year before the police can get there.

BatBoy said:
Let me finish your sentance for you….
” …people WITHOUT guns at the scene didn’t just “lay down.” They disarmed the punk and took him down” …after the shooter unloaded hisclip on people attending Congress on the Corner,killing 6 and wounding God knows how many more!

I do wish Zamudio was there when the shooting started…those people did not have to die that day!

To bad Zamundio wasn’t standing right behind that sicko when he started firing, at least a couple would have been spared.

balpert1 said:
I’m sure most bar patrons in Arizona heaved a sigh of relief after he made that remark. One less ass hole they will have to put up with when they elbow up to the bar .

Right, but they have missed the joy of seeing a man order a Cosmopolitan!

Remember when Sandra Bernard, a comedian “joked” about Sarah Palin being raped by black guys? O’Reilly went APE SHIT about it! He didn’t find that “joke” funny at all. He has panelists on his show (including him) calling Nancy Pelosi a “witch” yet when some liberal pokes fun at Sarah Palin, they are “pinheads” or “kooks.” You guys are pathetic

Frances Martel is dishonest wiith this misleading headline. I saw this on Oreilly but your headline makes it appear that Oreilly was engaging in black humor, when he was only laughing at brokaw for impuning the citizens of Arizona. Here’s an example of black humor:
http://www.breitbart.tv/flashback-barney-frank-jokes-about-assassination-attempt-on-cheney.
If you guys have and editor, consider this a complaint of about Frances Martels headline.

Gasket said:
Remember when Sandra Bernard, a comedian “joked” about Sarah Palin being raped by black guys? O’Reilly went APE SHIT about it! He didn’t find that “joke” funny at all. He has panelists on his show (including him) calling Nancy Pelosi a “witch” yet when some liberal pokes fun at Sarah Palin, they are “pinheads” or “kooks.” You guys are pathetic

That’s quite a comparison. Did you feel bad about missing the rest of high school after the 9th grade?

BatBoy said:
And he should and you should too.

This is where you Coasties differ from us folks who live in “Fly over” Country!

You folks live where only criminals have guns and you folks are afraid of them
We live where everyone has a gun and we are not afraid of them.

Had more people in line last week to see the Congresswoman had guns, I sincerely doubt that AZ would bury 6 of their citizens.
I too would feel much safer in a restaurant in AZ, than I would in NYC. Only the perp’s would be packing in the City….

Try again..this time try using some facts genius. NY gun deaths vs Az?http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000

Laurence Glavin said:
My favorite part of this whole episode is O’Reilly’s inability to say “canapes” ( finger sandwiches with upscale goop like, oh I don’t know: CAVIAR!), which a commoner like him would never eat…he probably prefers corndogs. Then Mediaite compounds this by writing “can of peas”, which one would almost never have in a restaurant, even in Arizona.

No wonder he prefers corn dogs, they fit where his brain should be.

Cobra, you’re wasting logic and facts on the deaf ears. Fear and paranoia are far more potent – and profitable, in the case of conservative media and the gun manufacturers.

“ordinary citizens, carrying firearms”

Revolutionary War fighters were largely farmers and rural folk who had a genuine need for their guns. They were skilled at and respectful of their use and power.

I never heard of a musket with a 33-round clip.

Rachel Maddow did a segment in which she compared the percentage of gun ownership with the number of gun homicides, per state. Unsurprisingly, states with higher percentages of gun ownership tended to have higher percentages of homicides. Those homicides are more likely to involve persons known to the shooter than strangers.

This country has a far higher percentage of gun owners than the next highest: Yemen.

All of the ranting against lefties who want reasonable gun control drowns out the fact that THEY aren’t the ones USING the guns. Most shootings are committed by the insane, the distraught, the drunk, the criminal . . . and the paranoid right-winger.

Few lefties begrudge hunters their shotguns, knowing that handguns are responsible for most of the gun violence.

timzank said:
Gasket said:
Remember when Sandra Bernard, a comedian “joked” about Sarah Palin being raped by black guys? O’Reilly went APE SHIT about it! He didn’t find that “joke” funny at all. He has panelists on his show (including him) calling Nancy Pelosi a “witch” yet when some liberal pokes fun at Sarah Palin, they are “pinheads” or “kooks.” You guys are pathetic

That’s quite a comparison. Did you feel bad about missing the rest of high school after the 9th grade?

When will YOU finally graduate from kindergarten? This was an entirely appropriate comparison. O’Reilly and the neocons didn’t invent duplicity . . . but they could sure stake a claim.

Thanks to the gun manufacturer-dominated NRA, the citizens of our supposedly civilized country will continue to blast away at each other. Meanwhile, most of the rest of the world – largely unarmed and far less likely to shoot each other – wonders why.

logic and facts on deaf ears.

jrcmi said:
logic and facts on deaf ears.

okay what is your idea of gun control, i will listen and ask questions

This is the real difference between the right and the left. Those on the right think it is funny to imagine someone shot and either killed or wounded. Those on the left do not.

JamesA1102 said:
This is the real difference between the right and the left. Those on the right think it is funny to imagine someone shot and either killed or wounded. Those on the left do not.

smoke another joint dude. the hate is on another thread

cjd ohio 1 said:
smoke another joint dude. the hate is on another thread

I don’t smoke joints. But thanks for engaging in stereotyping.

you are welcome, enjoy whatever makes you a idiot then

timzank said:
That’s quite a comparison. Did you feel bad about missing the rest of high school after the 9th grade?

How is it a far stretch? They are both tasteless, but you can not attack it because it’s indefensible? How about the Milbank example I gave earlier? O’Reilly has a HISTORY of making or hosting people who make these inflammatory “jokes” against non-conservatives. It is a FACT! Let me know if you need any more examples.

BillO is really thinking about Brokaw and a felafel.

Right-Wing brilliance on display again today. Cold & deliberate ignorance. The Conservative mind always lacks inner decency & dignity. The dislocated personalities & perspectives of the little, rancid masses. Enemies of thought, movement, education, personal growth, human learning. Mental & verbal subterfuge.
Little pretend-machismo, childish would-be cowboys. Their ghosts come out to haunt them in their nightmares. That which ignorant people cannot comprehend, they must try to destroy. Morally & intellectually weightless people. Ever has it been so.

If you cannot elevate them, it is best to leave them. You are but diminished by their presence. They possess a bitterness cultivated by decades of hatred. Repression & fear – that’s their fuel. They soil the rest of Society w their personal inadequacies & dissatisfactions.

Nachi ,You have this all wrong, it is the left wing loons brilliance on display again today. Cold & deliberate ignorance. The liberal mind always lacks inner decency & dignity. The dislocated personalities & perspectives of the little, rancid masses. Enemies of thought, movement, education, personal growth, human learning. Mental & verbal subterfuge.
Little pretend-machismo, childish would-be cowboys. Their ghosts come out to haunt them in their nightmares. That which ignorant people cannot comprehend, they must try to destroy. Morally & intellectually weightless people. Ever has it been so.

If you cannot elevate them, it is best to leave them. You are but diminished by their presence. They possess a bitterness cultivated by decades of hatred. Repression & fear – that’s their fuel. They soil the rest of Society w their personal inadequacies & dissatisfactions. This is the far left in a NUT shell!!

Let’s not shoebox all lefties. I am pro-Constitution. I support ALL amendments (including the 2nd) equally unlike you fake rightwing “constitutionalists” who only support the 2nd, 1st (when it applies to Christians LOL), and the 10th.

Here’s a little note for my lefty brothers and sisters. Gun legislation (relative to crime control) does not work. Criminals don’t follow/obey laws. I’d rather be armed and fight back.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Frannie, your title suggests you are trying to start something. You know he was mocking his statement and not wishing him harm. Knock it off you leftwing hack!

Right on!!!!

lonestar77 says:
Give me a break, Frances. THIS is a story? Puhleeze.

It is you suffer from Fox Derangement Syndrome, and that’s a requirement to be employed here.

BatBoy said:
Let me finish your sentance for you….
” …people WITHOUT guns at the scene didn’t just “lay down.” They disarmed the punk and took him down” …after the shooter unloaded hisclip on people attending Congress on the Corner,killing 6 and wounding God knows how many more!

I do wish Zamudio was there when the shooting started…those people did not have to die that day!

Again…who are you kidding? Who says Zamudio would’ve been in a position to shoot Loughner, who was at point blank range of Giffords when he began shooting? Who says Zamudio would’ve have been accurate with his shooting, under pressure, with screaming people running about in front of him? Zamudio wasn’t wearing body armor, so who’s to say Zamudio wouldn’t have been the second guy shot down?

Loughner, a “22 year old white guy with a gun”….
Zamudio, a “24 year old white guy with a gun”….

Who makes the difficult distinction of threat assessment when bullets are flying, and blood is being spilled within seconds? Tragically, trained police officers make friendly fire/unarmed civilian shoots frequently.

Remember, Zamudio himself believed that the first guy he saw with a gun was he assailant, so you’re assuming that everybody is going to be perfect in their decision making without any training whatsoever?
Not even Zamudio says that in the video.

timzank said:
You just can’t stand the fact this guy did everything right. Hilarious. I hope for your sake you don’t ever encounter a violent crime, cause you’re the kind of victim the bad guys shoot anyway because they can sense you’re a pussy.

I don’t have a problem with what Zamudio did. At the time Zamudio arrived, there wasn’t anything threatening him. I have a helluva lot more praise for 61 year old Patricia Maisch, who grabbed the clip from Loughner so that he couldn’t reload.
Or Mary Reed, who took a bullet in her arm but shielded her 17 year old daughter Emma from harm with her own body, and took two more for good measure.

I guess they’re both punks, right Timzank? Because they weren’t packing guns? Because one of them was shot three times?

And how about you, Timzank? Look at your own words:

timzank said:
You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers.

That means if you were on the scene, you wouldn’t have obeyed the commands to drop your gun from Zamudio, right? After all, Zamudio was a young white kid with with a buzz cut–he put his hands on you. You wouldn’t know if he was an accomplice of Loughner or not—not within the brief moments that the incident began, right–because he certainly didn’t have a badge.

Zamudio would’ve had to shot you to disarm you, right? Because if you gave up your gun to some 24 year old who isn’t a cop, you’d be acting like a……

What’s that word you used?

–Cobra

Royce Earnest Jr said:
This “joke” was in extreme bad taste. But Bill O will get a pass because he is on Faux Noise.If there had been more people with guns at the recent “massacre” in AZ, there would likely be more dead people. People were running every which way and probably would have resulted in their getting shot by stray bullets. When people panic, unless the person with the gun had nerves of steel and military training to back that up, they probably would have started shooting and not have stopped until their guns were empty.

Now we have little children commenting here. Go back to FaceBook.

ROCKSTEADY said:
How am I making light of this?How is my comments in POOR Taste?

Anytime you comment it is in poor taste. That is just the way it is with people like you that hide behind phony names.
Hey folks, have you noticed how many new people are using their real names here. That is how you get civil comments when people have to live with what they say. The libs hide because they are cowards because they can’t say their stupid comments face to face. Most of them would get a trip to the woodshed from their parents.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
Let me provide some evidence for my last post. On the thread for the original article about Tom’s comment, I and another posted suggested he stay out of our states. The response by a liberal poster (James) was Oh my gosh Mediaite, you need to report these threats. Dangerous teabaggers on the looose!! Do you see how ridiculous you guys sound?

Anytime you ask a lib to stop lying, THAT is a threat. They are as crazy as the AZ shooter.

Gasket said:
Let’s not shoebox all lefties. I am pro-Constitution. I support ALL amendments (including the 2nd) equally unlike you fake rightwing “constitutionalists” who only support the 2nd, 1st (when it applies to Christians LOL), and the 10th. Here’s a little note for my lefty brothers and sisters. Gun legislation (relative to crime control) does not work. Criminals don’t follow/obey laws. I’d rather be armed and fight back.

Why are you now trying to sound smart?

andybuildz said:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_mur_wit_fir-death-rate-per-100-000

Here is the murder rate by state:
http://www.statemaster.com/graph/cri_gun_vio_num_of_hom-crime-gun-violence-number-homicides

Quite a different story, isn’t it.

What It’s Like to Chill Out With Whom the Rest of the World Considers As The Most Ruthless Men: Ratko Mladic, Goran Hadzic and Radovan Karadzic (+) Confessions of a Female War Crimes Investigator By Jill Louise Starr NJ USA

https://sites.google.com/site/jillstarrsite/what-it-s-like-to-chill-out-with-whom-the-rest-of-the-world-considers-as-the-most-ruthless-men-in-the-world-ratko-mladic-and-radovan-karadzic-confessions-of-a-female-war-crimes-investigator

Retrospectively, it was all so simple, natural and matter of fact being on a boat restaurant in Belgrade, sitting with, laughing, drinking a two hundred bottle of wine and chatting about war and peace while Ratko Mladic held my hand. Mladic, a man considered the world’s most ruthless war criminal since Adolf Hitler, still at large and currently having a five million dollar bounty on his head for genocide by the international community. Yet there I was with my two best friends at the time, a former Serbian diplomat, his wife, and Ratko Mladic just chilling. There was no security, nothing you’d ordinarily expect in such circumstances. Referring to himself merely as, Sharko; this is the story of it all came about.

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Irrefutable Proof ICTY Is Corrupt Court/Irrefutable Proof the Hague Court Cannot Legitimately Prosecute Karadzic Case By Jill Starr

http://picasaweb.google.com/lpcyusa
(The Documentary Secret United Nations ICC Meeting Papers Scanned Images)

https://sites.google.com/site/jillstarrsite/irrefutable-proof-icty-is-corrupt-court-irrefutable-proof-the-hague-court-cannot-legitimately-prosecute-karadzic-case

This legal technicality indicates the Hague must dismiss charges against Dr Karadzic and others awaiting trials in the Hague jail; like it or not.

Unfortunately for the Signatures Of the Rome Statute United Nations member states instituting the ICC & ICTY housed at the Hague, insofar as the, Radovan Karadzic, as with the other Hague cases awaiting trial there, I personally witnessed these United Nations member states having a substantial conversations, and, openly speaking about trading judicial appointments and verdicts for financial funding when I attended the 2001 ICC Preparatory Meetings at the UN in Manhattan making the iCTY and ICC morally incapable trying Radovan Karazdic and others.

I witnessed with my own eyes and ears when attending the 2001 Preparatory Meetings to establish an newly emergent International Criminal Court, the exact caliber of criminal corruption running so very deeply at the Hague, that it was a perfectly viable topic of legitimate conversation in those meetings I attended to debate trading verdicts AND judicial appointments, for monetary funding.

Jilly wrote:*The rep from Spain became distraught and when her country’s proposal was not taken to well by the chair of the meeting , then Spain argued in a particularly loud and noticably strongly vocal manner, “Spain (my country) strongly believes if we contribute most financial support to the Hague’s highest court, that ought to give us and other countries feeding it financially MORE direct power over its decisions.”

((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((((((((((((((((((((((((( Instead of censoring the country representative from Spain for even bringing up this unjust, illegal and unfair judicial idea of bribery for international judicial verdicts and judicial appointments, all country representatives present in the meeting that day all treated the Spain proposition as a ”totally legitimate topic” discussed and debated it between each other for some time. I was quite shocked! The idea was “let’s discuss it.” “It’s a great topic to discuss.”

Some countries agreed with Spain’s propositions while others did not. The point here is, bribery for judicial verdicts and judicial appointments was treated as a totally legitimate topic instead of an illegitimate topic which it is in the meeting that I attended in 2001 that day to establish the ground work for a newly emergent international criminal court.))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

In particular., since “Spain” was so overtly unafraid in bringing up this topic of trading financial funding the ICC for influence over its future judicial appointments and verdicts in front of every other UN member state present that day at the UN, “Spain” must have already known by previous experience the topic of bribery was “socially acceptable” for conversation that day. They must have previously spoke about bribing the ICTY and ICC before in meetings; this is my take an international sociological honor student.

SPAIN’s diplomatic gesture of international justice insofar as, Serbia, in all of this is, disgusting morally! SPAIN HAS TAUGHT THE WORLD THE TRUE DEFINITION OF AN “INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT.”

I represented the state interests’ of the Former Yugoslavia, in Diplomat Darko Trifunovic’s absence in those meetings and I am proud to undertake this effort on Serbia’s behalf.