Does anyone truly believe the clown car of GOP candidates has any idea what they’re talking about?    

I agree that this might draw us into another war.  This is where I agree with Ron Paul and IKE, we need to get out of these wars and they are just costing us way too much.  The only people profiting in this war is the war industrial complex. 

WHY IS THE MAINSTREAM COVERING UP THE CORZINE SCANDAL?

So  in Iran, they weren’t watching The Situation Room today?

MSNBC and CNN both ran pieces earlier this week.  The CNN coverage was more in depth.  Do you have cable television?

Shhh…

That’s why it’s important to have morons like Herman Cain in the GOP race.  Disinformation.

After a few minutes of hearing Cain prattle on about Libya and foreign policy, Iranian officials will think no one on the stage knows anything about national security.  

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Watching GOP Debate:  
“Wow, are they really talking about US spy tactics on TV?  That’s amaz….wait, did that pizza guy just say Uzbecki-becki-becki-becki-stan-stan?  What…999?!?!  Screw it, they’re probably all idiots.”

If CNN and others don’t want the candidates to talk about Iran maybe they should stop asking them questions about ‘em…huh?

No, But it’s very entertaining to watch

Hahahaha…quite funny.

News Flash ! Mrs. Obama leaving Bali tonight to return to the US to handle this crisis.

“Truck Loaded With French Fries Rolls Over On I-80″

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/17/truck-loaded-with-french-fries-rolls-over-on-i-80/

Shhh…. brilliant!

Dude I’ve not eaten this much popcorn in a lifetime.  It’s like watching Comedy Central.

Getting a little scared ?    vroooom vroooom..

Newsflash-Ol Rubber Gloves is an IDIOT.

Carry on.

In response, Herman Cain said “Loose lips? Let me pull up your skirt and check! And what the f*ck is Iran?”

This is one of the reasons why the left-wing media has become a total joke.

These left-wing media talking heads are the same folks that consistently play sound bites and try to portray Republicans as know-nothings on critical issues regarding foreign policy; but ridiculously enough it is now a charge of Republicans giving out too much information, and even more silly is the facts that they the moderators are the ones who ask them the questions and request for answers with specificity.

Funny enough if a Republican presidential candidate in the debates simply said: “I am not willing to give out that information for security reasons” that sound bite would be played consistently on all left-wing networks for 3-5 straight weeks, and they’d say he or she is clueless and “did not have an answer to the critical question on foreign policy” as the media would put it.

I can now imagine how irrelevant these traditional “News Media” would be two decades from now.

Uuuhhh… No.

But Barney Frank does.

Let me paraphrase Dan Lothian:

“Are CNN anchors/reports/guests  uninformed, out of touch, or irresponsible.”

CNN needs to get a clue; it is no wonder everyone is beathign the crap out of them in the ratings; this passes as “journalism”

CNN – complete nonsense network

Clown Car!!! Kind of like the MSNBC “fruit bowl”?

Yeah, President Homeboy scares the fu ck out of Iran !!!!!!!!!!!!      Degeneration.

Negroflash-Ol Rubber Penis is glued to Rachel’s BELT.

Carry on, YO.

Thank you, Verry Deranged!

Does anyone think that any of the GOP field, with the possible exception of Bachmann, have knowledge of any covert operations? If you do, you’re an idiot.

What’s it like being Barbara Starr’s bitch?

That should make Tuesday’s CNN National Security debate a thing to behold, shouldn’t it?

Oh. My. God.  

Is this a coincidence, or did you pick a user name similar to mine as an insult?  Because I am kind of flattered. 

I watch quite a bit of CNN, and I haven’t seen much on it. There’s not much here: http://tinyurl.com/83lyzsh

The closest they get is this, and it isn’t much either. http://tinyurl.com/7zujqcg

They don’t have anything from this week in the video section, or in the general stories section: http://tinyurl.com/83lyzsh

Do you watch CNN in your dreams?

How stupid is CNN? Everyone knows…except for them apparently…that there are covert operations all the time. No one was spilling details so what’s the big deal?

To be accurate:

- Rep. Bachmann (believe it or not) is a member of the House Intel Committee;

- Rep. Paul chooses to sit on House committees that reflect his interest in banking and commerce, rather than intel and foreign policy-intel related areas; 

- former Ambassador Huntsman would have received intel briefings during the period in which he served as US ambassador to China, at least in relation to the Southeast Asia and the Asia-Pacific regions; 

- former Senator Santorum when he was in the Senate served on a number of Senate Committees which received briefings on US government activities & interests touching on Iran; and

- former Speaker Gringrich when he was Speaker during the Clinton administration would have been among the so-called Gang of 8 which the younger Bush administration used to substitute for full committee briefings in intel matters, but did not serve on any of the House committees that received such briefings.

The single most likely contestant to have current briefing information is Bachmann (which may explain her uncharacteristically responsible, sane and sober comments on Iran in a recent debate).

With respect to Gingrich, he falls within the category of the four contestants who have run their mouths most outrageously on foreign policy and Iran-related issues, but is also the only one who was ever actually ELIGIBLE for US government agency briefings on those topics. The implication is that Gingrich either never availed himself of that opportunity or is simply reckless (Both would be my guess.).

The American Conservative magazine has a very good, sane, thoughtful regular blog by Daniel Larison on foreign policy matters, and if readers here would like that view of the performance and stated policies of the contestants on those, here is the link (Larison is particularly scathing of the saber-rattling irresponsibility of Mittens.):

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/

This just goes to show Starr is both stupid and biased.  I remember when she threw a hissy fit when Biden revealed information about the SEALS!  Oh wait a minute, Biden is the VEEP and has actual insight into real intelligence information…not like the GOP candidates.

New definition for Starr:  Stupid is as stupid does.

The history since WWII has been that we almost ALWAYS get drawn into foreign wars by Republicans:

1. Korea, largely due to the influence of Gen. Douglas McArthur.
2. Iran 1953, where the CIA took out the democratically elected SECULAR Iranian government.
3. Viet Nam (LBJ said he only did this to secure Republican votes for the Civil Rights Act, 1965, but certainly that one is very much a shared needless foreign war, with a pretty good case to be made that Democrats were even more responsible – though not for the unauthorized bombing of Cambodia, which was all on Nixon’s watch.
4. The Central American countries bound up in Iran-Contra under Reagan.
5. Afghanistan – though pretty obviously that’s both a special case and a completely bipartisan one.
6. Iraq, where Cheney & Rumsfeld led the younger Bush into as stupid & as costly a foreign war as any the US has ever been involved in.

I expect Mr. Pennypacker knows about this, but any folks interested here could to onto YouTube and watch the warming speech Ire gave just before he left the White House about the “military-industrial complex”.

I also expect Mr. Pennypacker, had he thought to do so, would have included the MILLIONS in foreign lives that needless intervention – or worse, as in Viet Nam and Iraq – by the US government in foreign wars has cost since WWII. 

These dissidents (I’m assuming the Green’s) the Republican candidates are talking about supporting?  They actually support having a nuclear program and aren’t any more pro-US or pro-Israel than the current ruling party, just pro-Democracy.  Most of the Green Movement’s leaders are in prison now and the type of threats these guys are making against Iran over the nuclear issue have actually brought more ordinary Iranians back to supporting the current ruling party, making Ahmadinejad stronger.

It’s almost funny if it wasn’t sad.  

Lovely attempted distraction dance, Nobits. No sure about the tu-tu, though pink is definitely your color.

There was a pretty good article in the business section of the NY Times today, showing the lawyers for the trustee saying precisely what I’ve been saying for a number of days now: that the trustee simply is not yet in any position to know whether the ‘lost’ monies are retrievable, how they were lost or even how much. Plus, it’s characteristic of extremely large bankruptcy proceedings that they take a while before everyone gets their bearings, and indeed in a few it turned out NO monies were missing, that the bankruptcies were more strategic. I don’t think that’s the case here, or else Corzine would not have resigned; I think it remains possible that even Corzine does not actually KNOW the answer to the sorts of questions Nobits would be asking if he wasn’t such an authoritarian divot tool for winger memes. 

The scary prospect about MFGlobal is that, if it actually lost a bunch of client monies on Euro community debt, there is no way MFGlobal is the only Wall Street bank to have done so. That suggests that when – not if, WHEN – the Euro community goes under (very soon, any week now, maybe any DAY now), the tsunami is going to hit the US in a nanosecond.

Which means Obama may well get a do-over on the thing he and his economic advisors considered during the transition period and in the first couple of months in 2009: nationalizing the banks, at least for the purpose of clearing them out and starting over.

I’d be interested in seeing whether the wingers here would prefer TARP 2 or nationalization, because those are the only choices.

We watch Iran, Iran watches Fox & CNN; that’s why we have so much better intel on Iran than it has on us.

I should point out that Creepy said: “U-beki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan”. The exact quote is worse than even you put it, since Creepy left out the Z in Uzbekistan, and added a 4th beki.

CNN has run with the cheap tecky ADD hesaid-shesaid infotainment model for years now; they’ll keep asking because the answers are so deranged.

CNN is not left wing media; neither is ABC, CBS, or NBC. They are all corporate media, each owned by Republicans, even msnbc, where the so-called ‘left’ point of view gets about 3 hours out of each day.

Better quality news does not equate to higher viewer ratings, or vice versa. FoxNews has by far the top ratings of any “news” channel or “news”-oriented show, which says it all about the disconnect between quality and ratings. The single best reason to explain the dominance of FoxNews is this area is demographics: oldies have lots of time to watch, and the FoxNews demographic is quite old.

Sheesh – twice in one thread I agree with Pablo (not the last shot though, mostly because I don’t have enough interest in Barbara Starr to know whatever he’s talking about).

They’re all wetting themselves over a timetable to get out of Afghanistan because it will “telegraph our intentions to the enemy”. Two minutes later they’re all announcing covert operations in several middle eastern countries. Maybe they don’t know what covert means?

Why do you hang out in a place where everybody is stupid and biased?

A mangling of logic and coincidence. Nothing of value in your analysis.

Deranged?…not according to retired Army intelligence general James Marx.

The real idiots are the people who assume such covert actions are not going on.
As I recall from watching the debate that this came up in, Gingrich was first to bring up covert operations, and he did it in a way that implied the current administration isn’t doing covert operations but he sure would.
Of course the answer most conservatives were looking for was the threat of a preemptive attack. We should send in stealth bombers to take out nuke production and divisions of soldiers to create regime change. Of course we must first ensure that a Christian leader is pre-selected.
That is what the Teapublicans would want.

The claim that the media is left wing is most often heard on Fox News, the element of the media that also claims the highest ratings, which it gets by claiming to be the only “fair and balanced” part of the media.
You cons keep falling for the con.

I am not Fox.

I know how to think for myself.

My opinions and convictions are thought through and are mine.

First, on the opinion of the “left wing media,” I am sure you conclude that to be true on your own. But, just how often do you watch the rest of the media?
I am fully aware that MSNBC is left wing in its choice of Mathews, Maddow, O’Donnell, etc. I think CNN is absolutely fair and balanced. I think Fox is right wing. Those are my opinions.
Now, if you want to say the left wing ELEMENT of the media is a joke, I say fine, but so is Fox News.

On to the question of Iran. It has been long enough since I watched the debate that Iran came up in that I don’t remember whether the moderators asked the question on their own, or was that one of the questions that was submitted by a viewer or one of the two Republicans who showed up specifically to ask “right wing” questions. Do you remember?

As for Newt’s answer, we should take out some clerics, that was just plain wrong! It is a declaration of war in itself. Romney was no better.

My answer? We have no business (overtly) interfering with Iran’s “reaserch,” but we are doing everything possible (overtly) to get sanctions placed on Iran by countries like Russia and China, just as we have been working with all other countries to actively pursue limitations on Iran’s nuclear weapons attempts.

Most of all, Iran is just another bogy man. It will eventually acquire nuke capability. We started it. Russia was next. Then China and Israel and Pakistan and India and facts is facts. There is enough information about how it is done by now for any college graduate in that area of engineering to figure it out. It is going to happen, but we will also be able to deal with it when it does. As the clip shows, we are not hiding that fact.

CNN is not controlled by a left-wing ideology, it LIVES BY IT; essentially acting as a propaganda outlet for that purpose.

The same could be said of ABC, MSNBC, CBS, NBC and NY Times. They all presently define and control public opinion, and have done so for decades.

FOX News Channel since its inception as a cable network, acts as an antidote to ALL listed above, and a LONELY one at that. TV ratings since the existence of FOX News, best explains the Public’s desire for something different than they have been getting for decades(for a greater part of the 20th century).

Good night!

Who assumed that, and what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Jane. I’m sure your foreign policy experience far exceeds these candidates knowledge on the subject, it’s mindless Libs like you that turned the doves blind eye when that crackpot running N Korea was developing nukes, now look how they control everything in that region of the world because we know they’re insane enough to launch.
Only the real threat of preemption or actual interference in their theocracy will deter Iran from their psychotic desire to wipe out Israel. So what would you have the candidates say ? No comment ?
Can’t you just imagine the lamestream medusa reaction to that, they have no plan !!!!!!
The only clown in town is Owe bama.

Here are two areas in which I am most interested:
1) the liberal MSM omitting stories that don’t support their liberal agenda
2) with the existence of new media, old media (MSM) no longer have a stranglehold on the message.

I sometimes ask myself, why do I care what Mediaite reports?  Why do I
bother to comment?  I think maybe judging from the comment totals,
others might be losing interest as well.  We’re not going to change the
spots on this liberal website (had hoped to change them to a set of
objective spots). Feeling the same about Politico.

I would care to hear your opinion.

The real question here is whether or not any of these GOP clowns even knows what Iran is???

Barbara Starr is correct, and Newt Gingrich is treading dangerously when he talks, even hypothetically, about the types of operations he would undertake if he were president.  And Gingrich knows he shouldn’t even suggest these types of things that may or may not have happened in the past, but his desire to become president outweighs his common sense and respect for national security.

Another reason not to vote for Gingrich.  He’s jeopardizing possible ongoing or future covert operations just by suggesting them and thereby adding credibility to their possible existence.  Do we want a dangerous leaker like that in our highest office?  I think not.

I have come to see that this site is left leaning. Those who come here to complain about that have a point. However, I admit that I am left leaning, but I have good reasons for that and I come here to explain them. I do this without resorting to words like idiot, moron, etc., except in reply to those who use them first. 
Pardon me if I think that too many right wing posters do resort to those words. They are clearly frustrated in their attempts to explain the inexplicable. That being the “logic” of the Teapublicans.

I suppose that explains why George W Bush failed to even mention North Korea for the first two years of his presidency except to call them out as a “axis of evil” while Kim Jong Ill did what he wanted to.

In truth, LBJ wasn’t in Vietnam first, nor was Kennedy.  Eisenhower sent in “advisors” before he left office in 1960.,

The big banks are too big and need to be broken up.  Bring back Steagall-Glass and separate banking and investing.  THAT is what Bush should have done.

And Obamas dealing with this N Korean problem how? But to my point, once Iran gets their nuke the dynamic across the globe will change, the funny looking short guy with Kramer hair is controlled by china, no one has any control on the nuts in Iran, their already empowered by Obamas weakness, once they get a bomb to hold over everyones head terror will run rampant in the name of Allah .

Funny man, and you’ve accomplished what in your life ? If you even have a job I doubt you’ve risen through the success ladder as Cain has, and I’m sure you couldn’t come close to traversing the minefield that the candidates have to deal with daily, I’d have a lot more respect for Owe bama if he had an original thought in his head, I don’t know how the man gets dressed without a telepromtor.

And what would you have to say if they suggested that this subject was off limits ? That they were dodging the question ? Or they weren’t savvy on the subject ? People like you will overlook all of Obamas failings ( and there plentiful ) but find yourselves above the GOP candidates on intellect and foreign affairs, I guess you snarkey know it alls are prepared to pick up the prices of Obamas mess.

Rex that doesn’t pass the smell test, 1) if they were greedy republicans then profit would matter and they would go where the ratings are instead of just following blind ideology.
And if you actually believe your above mention stations aren’t left leaning your kidding yourself.
How many free passes does the Obama admin have to get before even you question the legitimacy of these so called new outlets. And if you think msnbc just airs 3 hours of left leaning spin a day you’ll have to tell me what shows are balanced ( time slot and personality ). You can’t .