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CNN’s Howard Kurtz Grills Daily Caller Editor Over Media Matters Investigation

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Yes, the ongoing saga continues between The Daily Caller, Media Matters, and possibly Fox News. Just to recap: Tucker Carlson, who runs the Caller and works for Fox News, launched an investigation into Media Matters, a big target of Fox News. The investigation turned up an internal memo from Media Matters saying they should hire private investigators to spy on the personal lives of FNC personalities. On CNN’s Reliable Sources today, Howard Kurtz talked about the story with Caller editor Vince Coglianese.

RELATED: Fox News: There Is ‘Absolutely No Coordination’ With Daily Caller On Takedown Of Media Matters

Coglianese was disturbed by the fact that Media Matters was intending to go after regular Fox News staffers, instead of just the on-air personalities. But as Kurtz carefully laid out, there is no physical evidence anything of this kind took place, it’s merely a memo suggesting what they could do. Kurtz also noted he tried to invite someone on his show from Media Matters, but he was turned down.

Turning back to the discussion, Kurtz took Coglianese to task for a part of the Caller report which quotes anonymous sources as saying major publications like The New York Times are taking their cues from Media Matters. Kurtz offered up a hypothetical scenario where someone might accuse the Caller of doing the bidding of an influential conservative billionaire, but Coglianese pointed out that if accusations were ever made, the first thing they would do is deny it. And according to him, that’s something Media Matters has not done.

RELATED: Tucker Carlson To Bill O’Reilly: Media Matters ‘Basically Writes’ MSNBC Primetime

Kurtz shot back by saying that there was no evidence that the Times or MSNBC were guilty of this. Instead of just quoting the anonymous sources, Kurtz said, the Caller should have taken the initiative and laid out a series of examples where what certain news outlets reported on lined up perfectly with stories Media Matters has covered. And, of course, the other possibility is that sometimes news organizations just use material from sites like Media Matters or NewsBusters (does anyone doubt Fox News researchers have not done this at least once in a while?).

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  • Anonymous

    “…(does anyone doubt Fox News researchers have not done this at least once
    in a while?).”

    Given that you express your opinion, shouldn’t this be labeled as a column?

  • Anonymous

    >>the first thing they would do is deny it. And according to him, that’s something Media Matters has not done.<<

    Brilliant!!!   If we accuse of something and you don't deny it you must be guilty!!!  lmfao!

  • Gloves Cledus Donahue

    “…runs the Caller and works for Fox News, launched an investigation into Media Matters, a big target of Fox News.”

    Fox is the target of MM, practically their sole raison d’etre. The DC gave examples on Thursday of MSNBC using the MM talking points. MM is hunkering down, gnashing their teeth and growling, hoping their tax exempt status is not yanked.

  • Anonymous

     Please link to solid proof that David Brock is a gun-toting paranoid schizophrenic who is hopped up on cocaine most of the time.
    Like medical reports, self-admissions, criminal convictions…that kind of stuff.

    Thanks!

  • Moderate

    In an interview and a 2010 planning memo shared with POLITICO, Brock said Media Matters plans to run a broad campaign against Fox’s parent company, News Corp., an effort which most likely will involve opening a United Kingdom arm in London to attack the company’s interests there. The group hired an executive from MoveOn.org to work on developing campaigns among News Corp. shareholders and also is looking for ways to turn regulators in the U.S., U.K., and elsewhere against the network.

    Brock obviously has become obsessed with Fox News, with Politico cheering him on.

  • Anonymous

    You see the beauty of MMFA whether left leaning or not is that they line by line document conservative bias in media like you’d find on Fox and right wing talk radio.Daily Caller just believes we are to buy this entire story one shot without a shred of provable evidence just a big mash of ANONYMOUS SOURCES and like Kurtz said didn’t even bother to take the time to show us how they line by line document how other network journalists are using Media Matters content.

    It really boils down  to the same ole right wing talking points that “everyone but Fox is biased” which is ridiculous on its face.All week we couldn’t get one Fox host to say that the Daily Caller is a conservative website and its boss is a Fox employee.In church today the pastor said we can’t move forwards unless we are not willing to admit our faults.Fox will always be on Media Matters hit list as long as Fox wrong portrays their right wing bias as fair.

  • Anonymous

    Kurtz is only pointing out how sloppy Daily Caller’s work is. First, they are relying on characterizations by anonymous sources. Secondly, they are making huge leaps of reasoning by suggesting that Media Matters is calling the shots at major publications. If you don’t have evidence that something is true, you don’t report it. 

    The truth is Carlson’s crappy blog was looking for anything they could get on MM. They found a little bit of info, exaggerated it as much as possible, and spread the two or three new tidbits out over the course of several stories, each one purporting to be a scoop. The only thing they really got was the suggestion that private detectives be hired, which is a pretty stupid tactic to take but fits right in line with what other political groups on both sides of the aisle do. After all, the Republicans put together the fake “Brooks Brothers riot” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot) and created a fake story about John Kerry in 2004 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftboating). MM wasn’t trying to lie about anything, just dig up info. 

    Daily Caller is pretty much a joke. Their best reporters are clearly fine with being partisan hacks. They are all young and inexperienced and clearly don’t have great journalistic standards. The stories were attempted payback for MM posting embarrassing Fox clips. 

  • Anonymous

    He didn’t give an opinion he asked a question.

    Now if he said “I’m sure fox news researches has done this at-least once.”

    But its a viable question.

  • Mo Fokker

    “does anyone doubt Fox News researchers have not done this at least once in a while?”

    You mean like when “hard news” man Jon Scott was caught reading a RNC memo on-air as if it were Fox New’s own research.

  • Mo Fokker

     There is a lot of overlap here. If you are a purist, maybe this blog is not for you.

  • Anonymous

    President Obama had to show his long and short form birth certificates to T/Publicans for them to believe the president is actually an American citizen, most still don’t even believe that he is. They have even been shown proof and facts and with the use of Donald Trumps “private investigators” but fail to see how he’s actually a legal citizen.

    However.

    The Daily Caller has no physical evidence that any investigations took place in Fox News by Media Matters. But the T/Publicans don’t need facts to believe that it happened. Just accusations.

  • Anonymous

    Kurtz only validates the premise of the accusation.   He is defending Media Matters with their own talking points.
    He’s comes across like their attorney.  What an obvious shill.
    It is laughable for him to act as if the charges are untrue.

    First he shows the memo with an actual name on it and moments later he talks like the whole notion of MM going after Fox is some ridiculous premise when the whole country heard the President himself even try to discredit them.
    The White House openly tried to bar Fox News from press briefings.  Van Jones led an organized boycott against Fox and Kurtz tries to act as if this is all some fairy tale story.
    What is even funnier is Kurtz whining about the unfairness of anonymous source as if that is not a staple of journalism.

  • Anonymous

    The only Daily Caller charge I believe is that people were screwing in the work area because I screwed someone on my desk as well.

    They make it sound like a bad thing.

  • Anonymous

    You’re attempting to pass off a story from “media matters” as fact?  ’Mark’ wrote this story and it was b.s. then and you repeating a lie is the essence of the charges against media matters.  

    Even they couldn’t go as far as you  just did – lol  They insinuated that it could have happened.  Obviously you and Josh read the same drivel.  

    p.s.  He wasn’t “caught reading an RNC memo on-air”.  

    This is fun to watch.  You guys are imploding.  

  • Mo Fokker

    Anonymous sources used by a respected News organization is one thing, but the Daily Caller is like a gossip rag for conservative hacks.

  • Anonymous

     He’s on google checking every right wing website right now.

  • Mo Fokker

    No, the Washington Monthly wrote about it:

    Even by Fox News standards, yesterday was more embarrassing than
    most. In the morning, the Senate Republican Communications Center sent
    Fox News a press release, talking about how the economic stimulus bill
    grew over time. Shortly thereafter, Fox News’ Jon Scott was on the air
    talking about the package: “We thought we’d take a look back at the
    bill, how it was born, and how it grew, and grew, and grew.”

    As it turns out, Fox News took the Republicans’ materials and aired it, word for word, without telling viewers that the “story” was a creation of Republican
    officials. It was so blatant, Fox News’ on-screen graphic included the
    identical typo made in the original GOP document, making it obvious that
    the network used a party press release as a news script.

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_02/016852.php

  • http://twitter.com/kabmn00 kevin

    Howard “liberal media whore” Kurtz,  made his enitre career bashing conservatives.  From the WaPo to The Daily Beast, it is no surprise he is mad at the Daily Caller.  I would imagine he has many friends at Media Matters who are finally being called out for who they are.   The DNC’s and MSNBC’s  talking points website. 

  • Anonymous

    Your making a joke right….? Are you seriously trying to claim that MM isn’t absolutely busted on this?
    Are you actually saying that MM does not coordinate news coverage with other more than willing outlets in concert with the White House…?

    Come on man….

  • Mo Fokker

    birther?

  • Anonymous

    Media Matters:  FOX News is a wing of the Republican party.
    The White House:  FOX News is a wing of the Republican party.
    MSNBC:  FOX News is a wing of the Republican party.
    Common Sense:  FOX News is a wing of the Republican party

    Right-winger: THEY’RE WORKING IN CONCERT!  IT’S ALL CONNECTED!! CAN’T YOU SEEEE!!11!!1!

  • OSTL

     olbyloon?

  • OSTL

     u actually think a left wing site would “report” on such a thing? lol

  • Pablo

    Yes, that’s exactly backwards. Spend 5 minutes at Media Mutters and if you haven’t figured out that they’re gunning for Fox, your monitor is probably broken.

  • Anonymous

    Great observation Kevin !  And ace job of carefully avoiding any notice of all the times Kurtz has courted controversy by echoing GOP talking points in his media criticism.  Also, sweet job of ignoring the fact that he is married to Sheri Ennis, a longtime GOP operative and media consultant.  Keep up the good work! 

  • Pablo
  • OSTL

     lol

  • Anonymous

     Great clip.  I especially liked the part where he was shooting his gun while snorting lines of cocaine.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    I did read the Daily Caller article on MM. It is comical in its attempt to create a scandal. There is a lot of useless tittle tattle in it. They think it is a serious offence that liberals use MM. They think the head of media matters is schizophrenic. They think the WH likes some of MM’s research. To believe this amounts to a scandal is beyond ridiculous. Would I be surprised if Fox News is used by the Republicans and a Republican president? Oh, pur-lease.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Indeed. Once he proves it, he also has the imposiible task of explaining what all of that has got to do with the price of fish.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Oh, they are gunning for fox. No doubt. The problem is what exactly?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Exactly! Fox news is more reputable than MM? Please.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    MM is some random website with viedos of what people said. Other liberals like their videos. Duh! Of course they do. If you think this is a scandal, you have to tell us exactly why. Will you be shocked if Fox was coordinating with Bush? I wouldn’t. It is completely uninteresting.

  • clever

    How is a internal memo hear say Genius?

  • Anonymous

    No one cares enough to actually make any accusations against DC in the first place, so it’s sort of a moot point.

  • clever

    I suspect that A libtard would not be able to figure it out you give libtards to much credit thinking that they have the ability to see bias or common sense.

  • clever

    If you do not know what the problem is you are pathetic whether you are a libtard or not.

  • clever

    I suspect it would be a joke to any libtard.Does it suck going through life being a complete libtarded talking point zombie who never had a thought you could call your own.

  • clever

    When did he show it? Do tell libtard.

  • Pablo

    Their non-profit status.

  • Pablo

    The sources aren’t anonymous to the DC.

  • clever

    Name a respected news site and I will prove how ignorant you are and how wrong and give you more examples or bias than you have teeth (bad example using teeth lets use fingers instead as one tooth is not enough)

  • clever

    Libtard?

  • Pablo

     Well, if Washington Monthly wrote about it, that makes it extra credible, almost like Media Mutters wrote about it. 

  • Pablo

    The underlying point is that people in and around MM, who like MM and want to protect it, think Brock is off his nut and a danger to the organization. But forget all that. Send Brock some money, won’t you?

  • Anonymous

    Please link to an internal memo that is proof David Brock is a gun-toting paranoid schizophrenic who is hopped up on cocaine most of the time.

    Thanks!

  • Anonymous

    I wonder if you’re just a troll. 

    Problem? 

  • Anonymous

    Let me guess. he found nothing?

  • Anonymous

    Santorum?

  • Anonymous

     Obama released both forms of his birth certificate… grow up.

  • Anonymous

     >>The underlying point is that people in and around MM, who like MM and want to protect it, think Brock is off his nut and a danger to the organization.<<

    You are thinking of FOX News and Glenn Beck.

  • Anonymous

    How this is any different than Fox using Drudge, Big Journalism, WND, Newsbusters or countless others, let me know. Silly right wingers. Always the victim.

  • OSTL

     You are not sly. ;)

  • OSTL

     1 guest lick…disturbing. lol

  • Anonymous

    What is not mentioned any where in this interview or by Daily Caller, is the fact that Tucker Carlson is the founder of Daily Caller.  What was mentioned in this interview was that Tucker Carlson could not be at this interview since he is “under contract with FOX”.  This article by Daily Caller, using only anonymous sources, raises many suspicions to its creditability due to its sources and connection to FOX.  FOX has been waging a battle with Media Matters for several years now because Media Matters has been writing and documenting what they consider be highly biased and misinformation reporting on the part of FOX.  This whole “investigation” by Daily Caller should also  be viewed with a lot of suspicion.  FOX seems to have pulled out all of the stops in trying to shut down Media Matters.  One of FOX’s methods was to try to convince their viewers that Media Matters was violating their tax exempt status for which FOX provided their viewers the address and sample wording they should use to make their complaint.  FOX genuinely appears to have gotten disparate in their attempt to shut down Media Matters.  

    FOX also continues to have mounting problems in London with what appears to be a continuing culture of bribing police officials to hacking into phone calls and computer systems. These problems have grown from the one newspaper they closed to one that is still in operation.  There seems to be little doubt that Murdoch is feeling great pressure surrounding him and his businesses.

  • Anonymous

    I remember how right-wingers screamed and screamed when Mediaite used unnamed sources to report the behind the scenes friction between Roger Ailes and Glenn Beck.

    They seem to be okay with the practice now.

  • Anonymous

    That was hilarious…

    “Tucker Carslon can’t be here today to report how MSNBC works together with Media Matters because the Daily Caller founder is working for FOX News.”

    You just can’t make this stuff up.

  • Anonymous

    Good interview, but why, exactly, doesn’t Media Matter simply refute the claim AND have a representative appear on Kurtz’s show to discuss the allegations?  I suspect Daily Caller has much more emails to come.  

  • http://twitter.com/kabmn00 kevin

    I suppose you nailed it, Howard is the first person in history to be married to someone with different political views.  What the hell does his marriage have to do with anything?  I am sure James Carville and Mary Matalin agree on everything.  By the way it is Annis. 

  • OSTL

     He has another job? Stop the presses, patsy!

  • Anonymous

    Why didn’t Sarah Palin refute the claim that Glenn Rice “shifted her womb” or that Trig is not her birth child? I’ll Answer because it’s ridiculous..   Old saying “You don’t argue with idiots because from afar you can’t tell which one is the idiot”..  I’m pretty liberal by the way.. The Glenn Rice story is slightly humorous but at the end of the day I know it’s rubbish..  These fools at the daily caller have NO proof.. Until they actually produce some why fight with them it’s what they want.. 

  • Anonymous

     Exactly.. only right wing websites don’t need facts to “report” a story.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Imnot-Tim/100002377097501 Imnot Tim

    these arent writers -theyre bloggers

    kossacks making minimum wage typing for dan.

  • Anonymous

    So I’m reading the comments, and the gist is, you’re okay with the notion that Media Matters was even considering using private investigators to harass Fox staffers?

  • Anonymous

    It is amazing at how out of touch Howie always is. He should spend a few moments watching each of the BSnmc shows starting with Morning JoeSchmo and ending the day/night trying to watch at least 30 seconds of Larry O’Donnell’s show without puking. Then check the internet to see the garbage Media Matters has been putting out for what seems like forever. Yo Howie, wake the hell up dude. Don’t worry it’ll just be one day with the low IQ’s.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

    One of Murdoch’s UK arms is already gone, and it looks as if a second arm may be severed. In fact, there are business reports in he UK that if Murdoch’s newspapers weren’t so toxic as to be virtually valueless, he’d run out of the UK, tail between his legs. Looks like Mr. Brock has been wondroudly successful.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart-Morgay/100001554351938 Bart Morgay

    It seems Carlson wants to go the Breitbart route and double down as a smear merchant.

  • Anonymous

    deleted, posted in wrong area by discus.

  • Anonymous

    The air must be rancid in that bubble of yours.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XEFRKNJR6WJ5WQ6KNPH2OEY2LU Antonio

    I guess you haven’t read their About Us page.

    “Media Matters for America is a Web-based, not-for-profit, 501(c)(3) progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media.”

  • Anonymous

    Fox is having mounting problems in London? lol
    Do tell!

  • Anonymous

    lol
    that’s a boy!  You’re not biased at all!

    Mind giving us a list of who is allowed to use anonymous sources and who isn’t?

  • Anonymous

    lol you silly silly boy.  It’s time you realized that the story was nonsense.  

    A left wing bomb throwing outfit couldn’t believe the #’s produced were the #’s produced so Fox was in on the fix.  

    The typo?  2009 instead of 2008.  Oh my goodness, got your panties in a wad.  

    The whole episode was talking about the release from the senate.  Do you see the disconnect in your attempted “take down”?  

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    The Daily callers point is MM is in danger? WTF?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Presumably you have evidence to show they make a profit. I am sure the police and IRS would like to see it. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    No one knows what they problem is, apart from MM is a liberal outfit and seems to be surprisingly effective against people at Fox News who never tire telling us that they are the most powerful thing since God. 

  • Anonymous

    Get informed.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Hmm carlson was on huckabee today, it seems like he named named and posted the email. Says he hays a real nice nine page memo But really it will be more fun to produce after the fox report comes out. Im thinking its only about 50/50 it will come out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Of course you only have to discount about 6 years of circumstantial evidence. AND discount the callers evidence in  its entirety. He has a fat 9 page memo hes still saving. Murdoch will sue the shyte out of whomever he chooses on this at the time of his choosing.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    I watched Glenn Beck at times on FOX. He always showed hard evidence of his claims and always sounded paranoid but I was wrong. Everything Glenn Beck has ever said is true. Stock up emergency supplies people, the communists are in charge and we will be lucky to get rid of them. Preventing the Economic collapse is probably impossible at that point. Listen to Beck, pay attn to whats happening.

    Even if youve been busy hating the GOP and real Americans for years, there is still a chance to realize youve been duped.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    So youre saying lying about americans in an attempt smear them personally over their opinions to misinform the public while pretending to be a watchdog group w tax exempt status is STILL not as bad as being married to a republican?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Wow. a gossip rag. What does that make MSNBC?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    You know what, even if they ARE a wing of the republican party, at least they are reporting stories thaat are true?

    Doesnt that count for anything among news outlets? Reporting the truth?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Hmm, Im pretty sure its a nonstory on other networks for a different reason :)

  • Anonymous

    “gunning for” AKA, posting verbatim video  clips of Fox. GTFO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Did the memo contain lies? or did it just coincidentally turn out to be true? Or is maybe that whole incident made up?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    journalistic standards…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Hes not obsessed, hes just paid well. Thank you George Soros.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Lame, lame, lame. Spin all you want, the sources will come out when its time. It may be better to wait for the “FOX effect” to hit the stands, if it still does.

    And Murdoch just hasnt decided who to sue yet, there are so many to choose from.

    MM, MSNBC, The White House, George Soros.

    Therre will be probably be lots of people suing actually…

    Rommney/West

  • Anonymous

    the spin is too funny – saying fox is targeting MM is absurd.  Lefties circling the wagons around MM.  Yet another reason to not watch CNN

  • Anonymous

     have you noticed all the newly created avatars just to attack you for having non-conservative leanings?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Evidence for what? It is not illegal to record Bill Oreilly and play him back , is it? It is certainly not illegal to be schizophrenic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    Fox is truthful? When did that happen?

    In any event, is the problem that MM is reporting something untrue? I am certain they are about 100 times more honest than Fox. Very low bar.

    You better come up with something better than claiming my side tells the truth and yours doesn’t. That is news from nowhere. Everyone thinks their side is honest.

  • Anonymous

     No one has ever posted a direct link to these MM memos just links to right wing sites claiming they have or saw the memo, but no actual file or reviewable images of the memos.

    I am starting to think that this is a long running conspiracy to discredit and smear Media Matters for America.

    And yes i have for a fact been to Politco and crawled through their archives: NO ACTUAL MEMO OR LINKS TO THE MEMO.

    I have been to Daily Clawer and NO MEMOS OR LINKS TO THE MEMO.

    No search regardless of the search terms has led to the memos themselves or to a site that has the memos for viewing.

  • Anonymous

     She/it will not ever admit a fact is a fact, and she/it continually uses discredited and falsified beliefs to make argument. Do not feed this troll, just go on by and let her/it gurgle and droll.

  • Anonymous

     Haven’t you heard? Fox has the formula for “EVIDENCE LITE” the kool-aid that makes all fantasies into a Fox reality, why have real evidence when you can have Foxes “EVIDENCE LITE”?

    Drink Baggers, Drink Right Wingers, Drink you Conservative Slimes, you want the things you say to be perfectly valid in your delusional world don’t you? That after taste? Do not worry your wee little brains over that it is just our special additive “fracking fluid” its not that bad for you and in fact it is quite good for Baggers Birthers Conservatives and the Ill Educated Average Republican Voters, so drink and have a wonderful delusional world day.

  • Anonymous

    What is the name of the state institution for the criminally insane where you live? Are they aware you have inappropriate unsupervised access to the internet in defiance of court orders?

    SERIOUSLY???? BECK????? HE IS GOING TO SAVE US????

    you should listen to and heed MURPHY’s third law of political discourse: Never ever let BECK the TOAD be your best argument or the basis of any comment you make EVER.

  • Anonymous

     Your feeding a troll.

  • Anonymous

     Check his communities, and stop wondering.

  • Anonymous

    LINK to actual MEMO, not to stories about claims to have seen the memo please.

     As for turning regulators against Fox/News Corp I DO NOT THINK THE FBI IS A REGULATOR.

    And BRITIAN could use a HEY HERE ARE EXAMPLES AND EVIDENCE OF WRONG DOING AND FALSE SLANTED STORIES BY NEWS CORP IN BRITAIN website, that way there will be something to allow people there to turn to when they  read or watch or hear NEWS CORP BS and go WTF???? and see if its true or just same ol same ol Fox/Murdoch trash media content.

  • expatpatriot

    Never heard of a gadfly before, I see. Or muckrakers. Another one of your educational lacunae is showing.

    You bet Fox is targeting MM. They’re really really tired of MM sneaking up on them and bashing them over the head with their own lies.

  • expatpatriot

    Murdoch’s not going to do much suing from the basement of the Old Bailey.

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “But as Kurtz carefully laid out, there is no physical evidence anything of this kind took place, it’s merely a memo suggesting what they could do.”
    Reminds me of the O’Keefe CNN boat caper. Both cases there was a memo and a source/sources. 

    Difference? Media and Libs convicted O’Keefe, but now defend Media Matters, dismissing it only as a memo, and anonymous sources. (yet, anonymous sources were good enough for Game Change, too)

    (and before anyone says Conservatives defended O’Keefe when the story broke, check yourself.)

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    “Kurtz said, the Caller should have taken the initiative and laid out a series of examples where what certain news outlets reported on lined up perfectly with stories Media Matters has covered”.

    They have.

    “And, of course, the other possibility is that sometimes news organizations just use material from sites like Media Matters or NewsBusters (does anyone doubt Fox News researchers have not done this at least once in a while?).” 

    Yea, they do. But it is more than obvious that MSNBC and Media Matters have the declared a war on FOX, and made it their mission to destroy FOX. If you need proof that MSNBC is trying to do it, watch them. Has FOX done that?

    “The strategy that we had had toward Fox was basically a strategy of containment,” said Brock, Media Matters’ chairman and founder and a former conservative journalist, adding that the group’s main aim had been to challenge the factual claims of the channel and to attempt to prevent them from reaching the mainstream media.The new strategy, he said, is a “war on Fox.”

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51949.html#ixzz1mvOkdO5d 

    “Simply put,” Frisch wrote, “the progressive movement is in need of an enemy. George W. Bush is gone. We really don’t have John McCain to kick around any more. Filling the lack of leadership on the right, Fox News has emerged as the central enemy and antagonist of the Obama administration, our Congressional majorities and the progressive movement as a whole.”
    “We must take Fox News head-on in a well funded, presidential-style campaign to discredit and embarrass the network, making it illegitimate in the eyes of news consumers.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Emma-Thomas/100003357377085 Emma Thomas

    HAHA. Beck is getting rich telling stupid people failry stories. He probably laughs at you when he is at home. Who do you think Beck or Limbaugh respect more? You or the people who just never give them the time of day? Remember this: you never, ever, respect those who believe your BS. You may not like those who know you are full of sh!t but you certainly have a grudging respect for them.

    My philosophy is simple. Never believe anything any politician or talking head says. Look at what they do. If I think, on balance, some politician is good for the country, I support them. But I don’t kid myself that they are telling me the truth all the time. I don’t care who they are.

  • Anonymous

    Wrong – they are fighting back against the slander, but they are not targeting MM.  When MM publishes a memo stating they are going to investigate the PRIVATE lives of employees of a company becuase they don’t like said company and you don’t get up in arms over that, then you have the problem.  Are you a paid dumpster diver?

  • http://www.sarainitalyblog.blogspot.com/ sarainitaly

    most likely they are waiting for some sort of denial (any response) from Media Matters, and then will produce the memos. At this point, MM hasn’t denied anything. Interesting for a site that claims to correct misinformation in the conservative media….

  • Anonymous

    MM is without a doubt a left wing push site. I agree, if you don’t like it don’t read it. That being said I read the article on the DC and it was pretty weak.

  • Anonymous

    If CNN asks you for a comment about a false allegation, you simply say it’s not true.

    Not hard to answer if the answer is NO.  Very complicated when the truth is a problem.  

  • Anonymous

    Tax exempt status is the problem.  MM can do as it pleases, just not without paying taxes.  Once the CEO stated the goal was to go to ‘war’ with a specific news outlet, the tax status should be rescinded.  Take that away, and I too have no issue with it. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Johns/1681497708 Michael Johns

    FOX has admitted getting info from right-wing blogs… like the Obama madrassa story and countless other stories they got dead wrong.

    But what FOX is really good at is twisting what Obama and Biden say, taking clips out of context so it appears they are saying the exact opposite of what they said.

    FOX is just pissed because Brock exposes the obvious fact-free bias of the network, as does Jon and Stephen. And for FOX to say that Brock is an admitted drug user. So what? So is RushBo, Glenn Beck, our president, and most of America. What’s laughable about FOX is how blatant and obvious their bias is. Even during straight news, except Bret and Shep. I’ll never forget months after the election when they Brietbarted Biden (they do it all the time, but this time it was wrong on so many levels). FOX actually apologized the next day – after being called out – for misrepresenting what they claim Biden said months after the election. March 2009, Fox News’ Martha MacCallum told her panel: “Take a look at what was said in recent interviews this weekend.” FOX then aired a clip of Biden stating: “The fundamentals of the economy are strong.” The panel FOX assembled wasn’t told that Biden was quoting McCain and that it wasn’t recent. The panel gave ol’ Biden a good dressing down to say the least! The apology from FOX doesn’t pass muster. Why would FOX have such a short clip in the can, and why would they create it without context? It’s one politician quoting another polititian… why cut a clip like that without intending to deceive?We need MMFA to police the propaganda, lies, and misinformation.There are hundreds of similar examples of FOX’s deception. Let me know if you’d like an emailed list.

  • Anonymous

    this guy has no credibility, and Kurtz owned him.. cant believe anyone would even cite this piece of crap! Just shows you how cons will parrot just about anything to throw dirt on the left! Nothing new…

  • Anonymous

    pfffft! Murdoch is having to deal with his own demise in the UK, I doubt he is worried about MM, he leaves that to Roger Ailes. 

  • Anonymous

    yah another job, because MSNBC who he is attacking, fired his ass, and Fox who is colluding with on this story, doesnt let him speak to anyone else. So who is the website working in tandem with the news organizations again? Oh right Daily Caller and Fox LOLOLOl Suckers… 

  • Anonymous

    LOL, if I had to guess it probably smells of Slim Jim, old sweaty clothes Bud Light and a touch of goat urine and feces. BTW, The goat excrement is from him sharing his bed with it at night. hey dont judge, It gets lonely being a right wing nut job.. 

  • Anonymous

    on this we can agree, Thank you George Soros !

  • Anonymous

    awesome response, it highlights the main issue in politics today! Dumb asses like you, who spew hatred and no substance. Look at your post! What does it say? other than blah, blah, hate, hate, libs, libs. Are you that mindless, soo stupid, that damn ignorant? really? I don’t have to suspect, I know it is miserable having to live like a Conservatard. Just look at your candidates .. Santorum? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA little Mr Sweater Vest! who wants to bad pre natal testing and birth control?  or Romney , the walking talking robot. You guys are so screwed. You had this election all to yourselves, and now you will have to deal with 4 more years of your favorite O’Bummer, O’Bama, The One, Barry, Hussein, etc. And once it happens, all of us leftys will be here to rub it all up in your faces! LOSERS! 

  • Anonymous

    oh boy!! are you going to have your cell phone hacked!!!

  • Anonymous

    Brock indeed!!  Rupert and gang did this to themselves. 

  • Anonymous

    Right!  He should be taking Koch money.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly!   MM has never pretended to be “fair and balanced”  They just play the clips.

  • Anonymous

    I just keep seeing Tucker dressed as a pimp.

  • Anonymous

    What is wrong with you!  Calm down. Take a deep breath.  Think about what you want to say.  Type it out slowly and carefully.  What talking point are you talking about?

  • Anonymous

    Well—-it was—-like—-true.

  • Anonymous

    well—it—was—like—-true.

  • Anonymous

    let’s see—-no—yes—and finally–no.

  • Anonymous

    It’s like—-on line—you know—the internet.

  • Anonymous

    let’s try this again—hmm–no—yes—and—-no.

  • Anonymous

    moran?

  • Anonymous

    republitard?   naw!  not going there!  I liked Ike—-you’re just silly.

  • Anonymous

    It’s all true if you consider reading other sources as “working in concert”.  Sorry too tin-hat for me.

  • Anonymous

    only—many times they’re not.

  • Anonymous

    A highly respected news outlet.  Thanks, knew you’ld agree.

  • Anonymous

    are you off your meds?

  • Anonymous

    They agree they like angry sex.

  • Anonymous

    I’d say—–hmmm—–maybe—–no, no—-I gotta go with yes.

  • http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP NewsCorpse

    For the record, Fox News has done this innumerable times – by their own admission:

    Brit Hume, Fox News anchor and managing editor: ” I want to say a word, however, of thanks to Brent [Bozell] and the team at the Media Research Center [...] for the tremendous amount of material that the Media Research Center provided me for so many years when I was anchoring Special Report, I don’t know what we would’ve done without them. It was a daily buffet of material to work from, and we certainly made tremendous use of it.

  • expatpatriot

    Well, they didn’t actually “publish” the memo, now did they? The memo was stolen. Or actually investigate anyone’s private lives, did they?

    “Thinking ill of the king” hasn’t been a crime since about the 16th Century.

    Even if that king is Fox News.

  • Bookthief

    This is why you people are dangerous.  A person (FOX watcher)  would need to know they’re being lied to in order to provoke them to change the channel.  FOX lies so well, so sincerely that the average thinker – you for example – doesn’t recognize the BS.

    Then the average thinker – you again – stands up for the lies which makes average thinkers even more sure that FOX is ‘fair and balanced’. 

    Oh… my son just read my comment and says I’m giving you unwarranted complements by suggesting you’re “average thinkers”.  He says that’s an over-reach. 

    If you do really care about this country, it’s important to know both sides of any story.

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