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George Will Definitively Declares Sarah Palin “Cannot Be Elected President”

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We’re now less than two years away from the next presidential election, which means it’s time for 2012 presidential speculation to begin! The first This Week of the year kicked off the talk with some of the biggest names on the Republican side, and George Will seems to have found through the litany of names what he called “the President’s secret weapon”: Sarah Palin‘s inability to be elected.

Asked by Jake Tapper (filling in for Christiane Amanpour) to evaluate the Republican landscape for November 2012, Will began by addressing the fact that Mike Huckabee had performed particularly well in the primaries in 2008– better than Mitt Romney– and then added this salacious tidbit of speculation:

“The President’s secret weapon may be the Republican nominating electorate… There is one person, high in the polls, Sarah Palin, who cannot be elected president because she cannot compete where elections are decided. In the collar counties outside Chicago, Montgomery County outside of Philadelphia– just can’t compete there.”

He went on give some predictions based on the fact that nominees, he explained, tend to win the majority of electoral votes in the Mississippi Valley– giving Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Sen. John Thune, and the suddenly-popular Gov. Mitch Daniels a leg up in that area.

It will be interesting to see if and when Palin confronts such derision, especially if this will set the tone for how pundits will discuss her chances for the rest of the year. While in 2010– two years removed– she could afford to be glib about it over Twitter, her chances as she races the clock will increasingly depend on how presidential she can come across, that trait one that, using her behavior last year alone, may be easy to “refudiate.”

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  • SarahP

    Well, no shit.

  • writer

    What a relief! Now all this bad-mouthing her will stop.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    Yes, but let us not discourage these despicable RW AHs from continuing to believe it.

  • cjd ohio 1

    shes not electable, too high negatives

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    This isn’t at all surprising, to anyone other than Frannie appearantly. Will is an old boys club Republican that would never endorse someone who hasn’t been on the Washington scene for the last 50 years. That’s not to say Will doesn’t have valid points alot of the time. Next, Frannie will shock us with the news that David Brooks doesn’t think Palin can be elected either.

  • timzank

    George is entitled to his opinion, he’s a knowledgeable guy but it’s still early on. Two years out nobody thought an empty suit community organizer could come close to Hillary either.

    2 years out, I wouldn’t count ANYBODY out.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Tim says:

    Two years out nobody thought an empty suit community organizer could come close to Hillary either.

    Affirmative action at it’s finest.

  • timzank

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Next, Frannie will shock us with the news that David Brooks doesn’t think Palin can be elected either.

    It is soooo methodical, isn’t it? sheesh…

  • writer

    We can still talk about ‘Brisket’s’ thighs, though. Right?

  • SarahP

    I don’t care how many years out.we are talking. This moron will never be elected president. Dog catcher maybe, president, never. I take it back – she could never be elected dog catcher, not even in Wasilla.

  • roxsteady

    Affirmative action? Please! Still haven’t gotten over the ass kicking handed to the GOP and Hillary by the Community Organizer? Seek professional help. Now Palin can get her screechy ass off the stage and go back to killing animals instead of the english language.

  • roxsteady

    How’s that 33% favorability in Alaska workin for ya? Even Briskitt is leaving mooseville!

  • writer

    Brisket was responsible for 9/11.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    roxsteady said:
    How’s that 33% favorability in Alaska workin for ya? Even Briskitt is leaving mooseville!

    Lisa Murkowski is better like in Alaska than Sarah Palin.

  • roxsteady

    By the way, is it just me or does Palin sound a lot like Harriet Johnson, the schoolmarm from Blazzing Saddles? Weeeeeeeeeee, the people of Rockridge! Insterstingly enough, everyone in that town was related. Hm?

  • cjd ohio 1

    roxsteady said:
    By the way, is it just me or does Palin sound a lot like Harriet Johnson, the schoolmarm from Blazzing Saddles? Weeeeeeeeeee, the people of Rockridge! Insterstingly enough, everyone in that town was related. Hm?

    i hate to say this, but that was funny

  • roxsteady

    Probably my favorite Mel Brooks movie. That woman’s voice could take the paint off cars. Whenever Palin speaks that’s what I hear. Just awful cadence.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    George Will knows the inside game well. I tend to agree with him on this one. A long primary battle will bring out Palin’s weaknesses. I think that Romney is the man to beat. Huckabee is an attractive candidate but he is a little like Joe Biden in that he is prone to gaffs. On the other hand he has the likability thing down pat. He can attract middle of the road voters who may not agree with his policies. He knows how to communicate with people but his evangelical roots will hurt him I believe in the larger primary states on both coasts and the mid west. These states will be crucial as the primary season winds down with the new Republican, apportioned, primary voting system.

    Romney does not scare people. His Mormon faith will not hurt him in the primaries. He clearly has the money, contacts and experience to run a long, tough, primary race. Palin and Huckabee will both be playing for evangelical and Tea Party voters. Romney will attract Republican establishment voters and financial backers like the Carl Rove crowd.

    If the economy is weak it favors Romney as people will be voting their pocketbooks. If the economy strengthens I believe Palin will benefit because people will feel freer to give her a chance, particularly Tea Party voters. Huckabee I believe will start of strong but fade as the primaries move to the larger states.

    At any rate 2012 promises to be the most interesting Republican primary year in a long time

  • BFD

    timzank said:
    Two years out nobody thought an empty suit community organizer could come close to Hillary either.

    Ummm…I’m pretty sure millions of people knew Obama would be president after he gave the keynote convention speech in 2004.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    roxsteady said:
    Harriet Johnson

    I had to refresh my memory, but I still find Sarah Palin;s voice more annoying.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=On73aHpgdSQ

  • Kird

    armwood said:
    Huckabee is an attractive candidate but he is a little like Joe Biden in that he is prone to gaffs. On the other hand he has the likability thing down pat. He can attract middle of the road voters who may not agree with his policies. He knows how to communicate with people but his evangelical roots will hurt him I believe in the larger primary states on both coasts and the mid west. These states will be crucial as the primary season winds down with the new Republican, apportioned, primary voting system.

    For what its worth, Huckabee has said he is not running.

  • Fox News: Serving the Freeper community since 1996

    armwood said:
    I think that Romney is the man to beat.

    Michelle certainly hopes he is, even if she pretends to want the fat man in Jersey.

  • david r

    The Dems have been PRAYING that Palin Babe is the nominee. She is certainly pretty and has a great personality, but the same goes for Jennifer Aniston, and I would not want her to be president either. If Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer was a babe with a great personality, would everyone be pushing her for president ? To tell you the truth, I’d vote for Willow Palin before I’d vote for Obama, but I’m afraid the majority of the country would not agree. George Will is right. Let’s get someone who can win.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    BFD said:
    Ummm…I’m pretty sure millions of people knew Obama would be president after he gave the keynote convention speech in 2004.

    A whole lot of people I knew believed that he might be president. In fact classmates of his at Harvard Law nicknamed Barack and Michelle the black Bill and Hilary. I heard this characterizations of him in the mid 1990s.

  • Riker1912

    Someone who can win. See, call me crazy, but I’d rather have an actual conservative as President rather than an Obama-lite with an “R” after their name.

    As for whether or not Palin is electable, I have no clue. But I have a wild and nutty idea: How about we have a primary and general election and let the candidates duke it out? Concept! May the best man (or woman) win.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Kird said:
    For what its worth, Huckabee has said he is not running.

    Yeah but he would be a strong candidate if he chose to run. He has something special. I can still remember at the beginning of the 2008 campaign season seeing a podcast of Bill Clinton on either Meet The Press or This Week saying watch Huckabee. This was before he had reached the eyes of the national media.

  • timzank

    BFD said:
    Ummm…I’m pretty sure millions of people knew Obama would be president after he gave the keynote convention speech in 2004.

    R U kidding? Were you addicted to crack back then or did you take that up recently? He was admired and known by some dems, but he certainly wasn’t even taken seriously for 2010 early on.

  • timzank

    armwood said:
    A whole lot of people I knew believed that he might be president. In fact classmates of his at Harvard Law nicknamed Barack and Michelle the black Bill and Hilary. I heard this characterizations of him in the mid 1990s.

    In the mid 90′s? You are delusional.

  • Kird

    armwood said:
    Yeah but he would be a strong candidate if he chose to run. He has something special. I can still remember at the beginning of the 2008 campaign season seeing a podcast of Bill Clinton on either Meet The Press or This Week saying watch Huckabee. This was before he had reached the eyes of the national media.

    I think Sarah Palin would chew at his base.

  • david r

    Riker1912 said:
    Someone who can win. See, call me crazy, but I’d rather have an actual conservative as President rather than an Obama-lite with an “R” after their name.

    As for whether or not Palin is electable, I have no clue. But I have a wild and nutty idea: How about we have a primary and general election and let the candidates duke it out? Concept! May the best man (or woman) win.

    Like Goldwater in ’64 ? He was an “actual conservative.” Lefties wanted an “actual liberal” when they pushed the nomination of George McGovern in ’68 and did not get behind Hubert Humphrey, and they ended up losing to Nixon. This is the way the game is played. People popular with party idealogues but not with the political middle do not get elected.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    timzank said:
    In the mid 90’s? You are delusional.

    I am not delusional. I was at Harvard law school moderating a panel discussion in March of 1989. Obama was a student. He was the star of his class. He became head of the law review at the school. I remember meeting him and seeing his charisma. Everyone saw it.

  • George C

    timzank said:
    In the mid 90’s

    He (armwood) may have been in Korea at the time , so you have to figure in the time change .

  • TangledThorns

    Pat Toomey disagrees, Sarah Palin can win! See below clip.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5IzSbmxTU8&feature=player_embedded

    George Will needs to get out of DC for some fresh air.

  • TfT

    As much as I like George, he and his pals on ABC haven’t a clue what middle america and the silent majority think or want for 2012. He is too inside-the-beltway to make such a definitivie statement.

    The media is still afraid of Sarah, she commands the news headlines even when folks like George are all to easily willing to dismiss her.

    What do you expect of someone who agrees to be on a panel of losers spearheaded by Christianne Amanpour, the anti-american host of abc’S Sunday talk show.

  • bigbrainbrad

    he’s right

    Palin can’t win a General despite what the silent majority and middle America thinks

  • roxsteady

    I remember that speech from 2004 too but, then, I also don’t watch fox news. Maybe they didn’t cover it? Now, before I go I want to remind all of you that Huckabee is a preacher so, that rules him out. Also, those stupid repeal the healthcare law commercials he’s been running in which were done with the foreclosure fraud scam artist who was fired on Thursday paints the Huckster as a bit sleezy. All of these GOP dolts will be vying to place because they sure as hell won’t win. I’m guessing the baggers will be ticked that Grifty McQuitter isn’t nominated and will form a third party which will split the vote and fininsh off the Republican Party.

  • tws258

    armwood said:
    He was the star of his class. He became head of the law review at the school. I remember meeting him and seeing his charisma.

    The notebooks filled with Barack + Armwood have now been explained.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    tws258 said:
    The notebooks filled with Barack + Armwood have now been explained.

    huh!

  • Naughton

    $uper $illy $arahrahrah’s willfull giddy ignorance about everything along with her $loppy, noi$ome, mucky word $alad$ has finally taken its toll. $arah’s $narky, $arcastic, $currilous, $hameless commentary on anything & everything has grown so tiresome & trite. All those emails out of the Alaska governor’s office will (eventually) clearly illustrate this.

    $arah will be aborted by the GOP in 2011 because $he is unelectable. The vociferous verbal vacuuming has begun. ‘Ol Georgie Will has added his voice to the choir.

    By the end of 2011 $arah will be a red-patent-leather-peek-a-boo-pump footnote. The cruise ships that ply the icy cold waters around Alaska won’t even want $arah glad handing the tourists.

    Of course, $arah won’t glad hand anything or anyone at this point without some kind of monetary compensation.

  • roxsteady

    Hey Armwood, don’t pay too much attention to the Palin apologists. Some of you have probably heard this before but, on one of my first trips to this site I found many goobers here trying to defend Palin. They blathered on about how great she was and how smart she was so, I posted an incoherent comment and then waited for them to call me names and tell me how stupid I sounded. Then, I lowered the boom, informing them that I’d neglected to mention that the incoherent comment I’d posted was actually a Palin quote. Naturally, the unhinged CAPS and name calling ensued. It’s still a great source of pride for me and angst for them.

  • cjd ohio 1

    bad gay slur armwood,like put a heart around the names, poor taste

  • david r

    TangledThorns said:
    Pat Toomey disagrees, Sarah Palin can win! See below clip.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5IzSbmxTU8&feature=player_embedded

    George Will needs to get out of DC for some fresh air.

    I think he damns her with faint praise in the clip you have, and this Philly writer has a similar observation about an interview Toomey gave to George Stephanopoulos:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/cityhall/Toomey_Ducks_Questions_About_Palin_At_Debate.html

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    bad gay slur armwood,like put a heart around the names, poor taste

    I don’t understand what you mean!

  • cjd ohio 1

    girls in school would write on the cover of their notebooks their name and a boys namewith a heart around it

  • cjd ohio 1

    i keep forgeting you are old lol

  • cjd ohio 1

    if the girl had a crush on the boy

  • Riker1912

    david r said:
    Like Goldwater in ‘64 ? He was an “actual conservative.” Lefties wanted an “actual liberal” when they pushed the nomination of George McGovern in ‘68 and did not get behind Hubert Humphrey, and they ended up losing to Nixon. This is the way the game is played. People popular with party idealogues but not with the political middle do not get elected.

    If the choice is Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee (who I don’t think will run) I’m staying home. Seriously. No f***kin’ way I’m putting Mr. Romneycare in the White House. I’d rather have the Obama vs. a Republican Congress scenario.

    Also, Palin is not nearly as “extreme” as both sides make her out to be.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    if the girl had a crush on the boy

    I remember now. They did that back in my day, lol.

  • Grammie

    timzank said:
    R U kidding? Were you addicted to crack back then or did you take that up recently? He was admired and known by some dems, but he certainly wasn’t even taken seriously for 2010 early on.

    Timzank, I’m afraid that a lot of people saw it coming.

    My Mama and I watched his speech.

    Just a little background on Mama. She was 99 years old and voted Bush – Vitter – Jindal. After the speech she commented that he was good looking, charmingy, great smile, and said nothing of importance in ringing terms and could be President in 8 or 12 years.

    So she off by 4 years but she pegged it..

  • cjd ohio 1

    his joke was in poor taste

  • the real john t

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    his joke was in poor taste

    How come when a RWer says something stupid it’s always a “joke”, but when a LWer says something it’s always serious besiness?

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    i keep forgeting you are old lol

    Today is my birthday

  • Kird

    armwood said:
    Today is my birthday

    Happy Birthday, Armwood.

  • the real john t

    armwood said:
    Today is my birthday

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

  • An Idea

    An Idea – Ignore SarahP and he’ll go away . Don’t engage the nasties .

  • MiddleRoader

    armwood said:
    Today is my birthday

    Happy Birthday Armwood! Wishing you many more to come.

  • cjd ohio 1

    armwood said:
    Today is my birthday

    happy birthday, and many more to come sir

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    armwood said:
    George Will knows the inside game well. I tend to agree with him on this one. A long primary battle will bring out Palin’s weaknesses. I think that Romney is the man to beat. Huckabee is an attractive candidate but he is a little like Joe Biden in that he is prone to gaffs.

    I am sure glad that Will has the approval of the brilliant Armwood. LOL Don’t quit your day job. Lots of people make predictions and lots of people get them wrong. Even I do every once in a while. Will doesn’t make too many predictions about elections and I would not call him an expert.
    When it comes to Palin, he has NO idea what he is talking about. He was pretty sure Hillary would win in 08, didn’t work out that way. After all a nobody with NO experience and a fool that thought there were 57 states won the election. Can’t get any dumber than that guy.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    roxsteady said:
    I posted an incoherent comment and then waited for them to call me names and tell me how stupid I sounded. Then, I lowered the boom, informing them that I’d neglected to mention that the incoherent comment I’d posted was actually a Palin quote. Naturally, the unhinged CAPS and name calling ensued. It’s still a great source of pride for me and angst for them.

    Nice try, Box of Rox, you are always incoherent. You went to ForDumb remember. You even thought there were Rhode Scholars not Rhodes Scholars. Go back to your game jump rope.

  • the real john t

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Will doesn’t make too many predictions about elections and I would not call him an expert.

    Talking about an expert, I’ve asked you this before with no answer. Where did you get your expertise to call yourself a “Terrorist Expert”. Will probably has more political expertise in his little finger than you do in your whole worthless stubby little ignorant body.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    the real john t said:
    HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

    Thank you very much!

  • the real john t

    armwood said:
    Thank you very much!

    You’re welcome. I enjoy seeing people living through birthdays. With many more to come.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I am sure glad that Will has the approval of the brilliant Armwood. LOL Don’t quit your day job. Lots of people make predictions and lots of people get them wrong. Even I do every once in a while. Will doesn’t make too many predictions about elections and I would not call him an expert.
    When it comes to Palin, he has NO idea what he is talking about. He was pretty sure Hillary would win in 08, didn’t work out that way. After all a nobody with NO experience and a fool that thought there were 57 states won the election. Can’t get any dumber than that guy.

    You are right about predictions. It isis to early to tell, however for some of us it is fun. I have watched carefully every presidential campaign since 1964 and I have clear memories of the 1960 campaign and Kennedy’s inauguration. It funny the things that stick out to you when you are very young. It snowed heavily twice the week of Kennedy’s inauguration in the North East. It was very cold on inauguration day. Kennedy’s foot warmer was not working properly and I remember the newscasters discussing it. I was worried about his feet being cold. Funny thing what strikes a seven year old as important.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    the real john t said:
    Talking about an expert, I’ve asked you this before with no answer. Where did you get your expertise to call yourself a “Terrorist Expert”. Will probably has more political expertise in his little finger than you do in your whole worthless stubby little ignorant body.

    Why do you make so easy for me to prove that you are an idiot. The news media called on ME as a terrorism expert when I was working as an investigator. I posted the clip of the interview with me at the time of the first Gulf War. You are not very bright so I will post again just for dumb little you.
    You always have a problem believing the truth don’t you?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSgeogpfPcE

  • cjd ohio 1

    1964 shit that was the year i was born, damn you are old, but happy birthday anyway lol

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    1964 shit that was the year i was born, damn you are old, but happy birthday anyway lol

    Ha Ha Ha, the Yankees lost to the Cardinals in the World Series in seven games. Joe Pepitone had two home runs in one the of games. Bob Gibson pitched his butt off for Saint Louis. Those were the days. I was a huge Yankee fan, particularly Mickey Mantle. I stupidly lost a ball he autographed for me at the stadium. I may have played baseball with it. I do not know what happened.

  • George C

    armwood said:
    . He was the star of his class. He became head of the law review at the school. I remember meeting him and seeing his charisma. Everyone saw it.

    tws258 said:
    The notebooks filled with Barack + Armwood have now been explained.

    That’s kind of funny .

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    bad gay slur armwood,like put a heart around the names, poor taste

    I think that lightly poking fun at the effusive fawning of armwwod hardly rises to the level of “bad gay slur “.

  • the real john t

    gordonbloyershow said:
    The news media called on ME as a terrorism expert when I was working as an investigator

    Where did they get the idea you were a terrorist expert? And how come most shows you appeared on was your last time there. Because they figured out what a blowhard fraud you were. If you were such a great expert as you claimed you would be making more than your $35,000 to $40,000 income you’re making. You are nothing but a blowhard fraud, and everyone knows it except you. Anybody that has to lease space on a program to do their idiotic pathetic little show is just pathetic, but they finally kick your sorry ass out. Most people get paid to go on a show, you had to pay to have your show. What a pitiful little man you are.

  • Nacho

    Sarah Palin’s rise and fall will not be a reflection on her personally.

    It will be a refudiation of the ignorant people that put her atop a paper throne

  • cjd ohio 1

    George C said:
    That’s kind of funny . I think that lightly poking fun at the effusive fawning of armwwod hardly rises to the level of “bad gay slur “.

    you could be right george, maybe overreacted, but it was in poor taste, i will try not to make assumptions such as that

  • Kird

    Nacho said:
    Sarah Palin’s rise and fall will not be a reflection on her personally.

    It will be a refudiation of the ignorant people that put her atop a paper throne

    Palin could wind up being this generation’s version of Ross Perot if she doesn’t get the party nod.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    Kird said:
    Palin could wind up being this generation’s version of Ross Perot if she doesn’t get the party nod.

    That would be interesting.

  • jjay7381

    If I were a Republican, I’d be holding out for something better than Sarah Palin. What blows me away is that there are so many people that don’t recognize her obvious pandering. Say what you want about Obama, but at least his pandering isn’t anywhere near as shameless as Palin’s. Her personal likability is too low to get her anywhere beyond a primary. It won’t matter whether people like her policies if they don’t like her.

  • jjay7381

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Nice try, Box of Rox, you are always incoherent. You went to ForDumb remember. You even thought there were Rhode Scholars not Rhodes Scholars. Go back to your game jump rope.

    No one cares, Blowhard. Just put away your raging Palin erection.

  • http://www.pmm.nl Ron C. de Weijze

    This only fuels my sympathy for the Tea Parties and disgusts me over the GOP cronies, though by definition never more than over DEM cronies.

  • nrgetick

    LOL,.,Run sarah Run!!!!

    I heard she was filled with the holy spirit!!!!

  • nrgetick

    Ron C. de Weijze said:
    This only fuels my sympathy for the Tea Parties.

    Why?

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Why do you make so easy for me to prove that you are an idiot. The news media called on ME as a terrorism expert when I was working as an investigator. I posted the clip of the interview with me at the time of the first Gulf War. You are not very bright so I will post again just for dumb little you.
    You always have a problem believing the truth don’t you?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSgeogpfPcE

    You, like me were a lot younger then. Here are a couple of TV clips from me the CNN one in 1993 and part of a Channel 46 interview in 1989. I used to appear on TV regularly. Hey I am younger than you, lol. It’s feels good to be younger than somebody here.

    http://www.armwood.com/styled/ArmwodJazzClips.html

  • http://www.pmm.nl Ron C. de Weijze

    nrgetick said:
    Why?

    I hate cronyism like this (excluding other candidates), patented by the DEMs, but not distanced from enough by the GOP.

  • lazzzlo

    It’s the start of the New Year…everyone believes everything

  • nrgetick

    Ron C. de Weijze said:
    I hate cronyism like this (excluding other candidates), patented by the DEMs, but not distanced from enough by the GOP.

    whatever,.,.we have 2 wings to a singular plutocracy.

  • nrgetick

    lazzzlo said:
    It’s the start of the New Year…everyone believes everything

    psssshhhhhh maybe the conformists living in their brittany spear,s justin timberlack fantasy world. psshhhh conformists

  • nrgetick

    Nacho said:
    Sarah Palin’s rise and fall will not be a reflection on her personally.

    It will be a refudiation of the ignorant people that put her atop a paper throne

    ha ha ha,.ha ha ha ,.,

    rightwingers gotta love em

  • the real john t

    lazzzlo said:
    It’s the start of the New Year…everyone believes everything

    You must be talking about your RW buddy Alz. He was on another thread screaming about Social Security was broke and had no money. He even linked to an article that proved him wrong. Of course that’s what he gets for cherry picking an article to find what he likes and not reading the whole article.

  • nrgetick

    the real john t said:
    You must be talking about your RW buddy Alz. He was on another thread screaming about Social Security was broke and had no money. He even linked to an article that proved him wrong. Of course that’s what he gets for cherry picking an article to find what he likes and not reading the whole article.

    lol.,,.fair enough

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Geoge Will should start forcasting the weather since he is so intelligent! Hell I could cancel my home owners insurance on his advise alone!

  • BFD

    Just4thefax said:
    Geoge Will should start forcasting the weather since he is so intelligent!

    You don’t have to be intelligent to realize Palin will never be president, everyone knows that except for the most fervent teabloggers.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    armwood said:
    You, like me were a lot younger then. Here are a couple of TV clips from me the CNN one in 1993 and part of a Channel 46 interview in 1989. I used to appear on TV regularly. Hey I am younger than you, lol. It’s feels good to be younger than somebody here. http://www.armwood.com/styled/ArmwodJazzClips.html

    I booked a lot of jazz greats. I also worked at the Monterey Jazz Festival.
    I booked people like Stan Kenton, Cal Jader, Jack Sheldon, Blue Mitchel, Herb Ellis, Woody Herman, Eugene Wright, Art Pepper and B.B. King.

  • Just4thefax

    BFD said:
    You don’t have to be intelligent to realize Palin will never be president, everyone knows that except for the most fervent teabloggers.

    Fact: So did a community organizer!

  • D Right One

    Ever since McCain brought her out of the sticks, she’s had her eye on all the money she can make from you goobs in the Lower 48. I could care less about what she looks or sounds like. She has made absolutely no sense and her policies(and Alaska’s) are mostly based on Socialist ideals of sharing the oil revenues and getting more money from the feds than they send in(revenue redistribution). She doesn’t even recognize those features of the state she once half governed. How can she govern the USA ? It’s a waste of donations and campaign funds to even consider her.

    Let’s argue real figures and facts. Not how she looks or sounds or is that really how we vote for President?

  • notsofast

    I think she should remain as a fundraiser for the Conservatives and stay out of the presidential race.

  • writer

    It would seem the pundits would spend more time talking about the people who could be elected. Kinda odd always focusing on the one who can’t.

  • Pablo

    D Right One said:
    She has made absolutely no sense and her policies(and Alaska’s) are mostly based on Socialist ideals of sharing the oil revenues and getting more money from the feds than they send in(revenue redistribution).

    Spock has always had a beard. No, really.

  • Nacho

    notsofast said:
    I think she should remain as a fundraiser for the Conservatives and stay out of the presidential race.

    You think? That’s what every Elite Conservative thinks.

    She’s a pretty face that they parade around once in the while to bring in some money for the big boys. That is just fine with her as long as her pimps give her her fair share.

    There’s a name for ladies like that.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I booked a lot of jazz greats. I also worked at the Monterey Jazz Festival.
    I booked people like Stan Kenton, Cal Jader, Jack Sheldon, Blue Mitchel, Herb Ellis, Woody Herman, Eugene Wright, Art Pepper and B.B. King.

    Get out of here. A conservative jazz lover. That’s unusual. You are in the Bay Area right? Do you know Todd Barkan? He works now at Jazz At Lincoln Center with Wynton but he used to have the Keystone Corner. It’s a small world.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I booked a lot of jazz greats. I also worked at the Monterey Jazz Festival.
    I booked people like Stan Kenton, Cal Jader, Jack Sheldon, Blue Mitchel, Herb Ellis, Woody Herman, Eugene Wright, Art Pepper and B.B. King.

    I managed avante guard musicians David Murray and Lester Bowie. Wynton Marsalis was in a band I managed for a short while in the early eighties. I have produced shows with Sonny Rollins, Wynton Marsalis, Branford Marsalis, Benny Green, Dave Holland, Joe Henderson, Don Pullen, The Art Ensemble Of Chicago, Bobby Hutcherson, Geri Allen, Jackie McLean, Arthur Blythe, Tom Harrell, Dee Dee Bridgewater, Abbey Lincoln and so any more. I gave Cassandra Wilson her first N.Y. gig. My wife and I claimed the great wall of China with Wynton. My life has been surrounded by jazz.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    “climbed the great wall of China”

    I really need to take a keyboard class!

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    armwood said:
    Get out of here. A conservative jazz lover. That’s unusual. You are in the Bay Area right? Do you know Todd Barkan? He works now at Jazz At Lincoln Center with Wynton but he used to have the Keystone Corner. It’s a small world.

    No longer in California. Lived in Monterey for 10 years and San Fran. for 17 years. One club I managed hired jazz groups and the other rock groups and comedians. I have always been around actors, muscians and comedians. On my website you can my photo with Jack Sheldon, Clint Eastwood, James Stewart, Donny Osmond and Foster Brooks among others.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    gordonbloyershow said:
    No longer in California. Lived in Monterey for 10 years and San Fran. for 17 years. One club I managed hired jazz groups and the other rock groups and comedians. I have always been around actors, muscians and comedians. On my website you can my photo with Jack Sheldon, Clint Eastwood, James Stewart, Donny Osmond and Foster Brooks among others.

    Clint Eastwood is one of my heros. We share a love for jazz and golf. He has done so much for jazz. The two movies Bird and Straight No Chaser and those incredible sound tracks like in the film “On Golden Pond”. Jazz brings together such a wide assortment of people. It has always amazed me. I grew up in NYC and as I teen and college student I worked part time jobs and spent all of my money buying jazz albums in the Village and going to The Village Vanguard, Sluggs The Village Gate etc. By the dawn of the eighties i was booking bands, running clubs and managing people so i had club privileges. I could see anybody I wanted to as much as I wanted to as long as it was not the first two sets on Friday or Saturday night. It was a great life for a young jazz lover.

  • Tedderman

    Anyone who couldn’t finish a term as Alaska’s Gov. because things got too hot, could never withstand the rigors of the presidency.!

  • J Baustian

    I’m just surprised that anyone watched “This Week”, though of course we can find out what George Will thinks from other sources.

    As for Ms Palin, she has become a celebrity, which in America implies a certain lack of seriousness. It’s true that the Left recognized, very early, that she presented a threat and so they attacked her relentlessly…. and successfully.

    So while she can draw huge crowds, and might be able to win primary elections in a few states, George Will is almost certainly correct in saying she cannot win the presidency. But she can help to elect the next president, depending on what she does over the next 18-24 months.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    armwood said:
    Clint Eastwood is one of my heros. We share a love for jazz and golf. He has done so much for jazz. The two movies Bird and Straight No Chaser and those incredible sound tracks like in the film “On Golden Pond”. Jazz brings together such a wide assortment of people. It has always amazed me. I grew up in NYC and as I teen and college student I worked part time jobs and spent all of my money buying jazz albums in the Village and going to The Village Vanguard, Sluggs The Village Gate etc. By the dawn of the eighties i was booking bands, running clubs and managing people so i had club privileges. I could see anybody I wanted to as much as I wanted to as long as it was not the first two sets on Friday or Saturday night. It was a great life for a young jazz lover.

    Same with me. I have met almost everyone I have wanted to meet or see. All for FREE.
    Barbie Benton, Three Dog Night, George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, Harry James, James Garner, Jack Kelly, Phil Harris, Etta James, Merv Griffin, George Murphy, Ray Bolger, Doug McClure, Alex Rocco, Leif Garrett, Vince Van Patton, Andy Williams, Doug Kershaw and many more.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    J Baustian said:
    I’m just surprised that anyone watched “This Week”, though of course we can find out what George Will thinks from other sources.

    As for Ms Palin, she has become a celebrity, which in America implies a certain lack of seriousness. It’s true that the Left recognized, very early, that she presented a threat and so they attacked her relentlessly…. and successfully.

    So while she can draw huge crowds, and might be able to win primary elections in a few states, George Will is almost certainly correct in saying she cannot win the presidency. But she can help to elect the next president, depending on what she does over the next 18-24 months.

    As is obvious I am a liberal. I have enjoyed watching George Will for nearly thirty years. The reason i enjoy him is the way he logically constructs his arguments. If you accept his assumptions, and that is the key, you can marvel at the manner in which he consistently structures his arguments. I am not talking about his opinions with which i usually disagree. It is the way he presents them. He is an excellent debater and a logical thinker. I have always dreamed of sitting at a table and discussing/debating politics with him. He is a worthy adversary. I once had the opportunity to sit and discuss debate politics with former /new York Mayor Ed Kock during his second term. We totally disagreed but we both had a ball. He sent me a thank you letter and we appeared together on the front page of a couple of Staten Island newspapers.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Same with me. I have met almost everyone I have wanted to meet or see. All for FREE.
    Barbie Benton, Three Dog Night, George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Bing Crosby, Bob Hope, Harry James, James Garner, Jack Kelly, Phil Harris, Etta James, Merv Griffin, George Murphy, Ray Bolger, Doug McClure, Alex Rocco, Leif Garrett, Vince Van Patton, Andy Williams, Doug Kershaw and many more.

    Same here. I got to work with, see and meet every jazz musician I who was alive during my adulthood. That is a wonderful experience, as you know. Those memories will keep us happy in our old age as our bodies fail. Thanks for bringing back some joy filled memories. By the way did Harry James still have that incredible tone when you saw him? I once had dinner with at a table with Doc Severinsen, represented the City of Atlanta at the Montreux Jazz Festival in Switzerland where I sat in Quincy Jone’s booth overlooking the shows. That was in 91 when Miles Davis reunited with Gil Evans. I used to see Gil regularly on Monday nights at Sweet Basil in NYC. That as my regular hang out spot. He was such an interesting guy, a real little, skinny man. Such an innovative orchestrator, probably the best since Ellington. I saw Bill Evans many nights at The Vanguard during the seventies. At the age of 16 I was on salaried staff for Mayor John V. Lindsay’s reelection campaign. The campaign had a benefit at the “Felt Forum”, now the name has changed that included Frank Sinatra, Barbara Streisand and Harry Belafonte. I still remember the look that Belafonte gave me when he shook my hand.

    So many entertainers, politicians poets, movie people etc like jazz so as I have, like you had the opportunity to meet so many that I don’t even recall them. The last time i was in NYC in 2007, I was outside Willie Nelson’s traveling trailer. The door opened and you can imagine the smell that came out. I laughed my butt off.

    The arts are wonderful. They have kept me a sane person though I know many people here question that as a result of my posts.

  • Ajolily

    timzank said:
    R U kidding? Were you addicted to crack back then or did you take that up recently? He was admired and known by some dems, but he certainly wasn’t even taken seriously for 2010 early on.

    Strange as it seems my husband told me in the late 90s that they were grooming Obama to be the one who brought this country down and I told him he was nuts. Don’t know what he saw but he was right on in his predictions.

  • CAconservative

    jjay7381:

    What do you think got Obimbo elected? I was nothing more than personality and charisma, laced with allot of empty slogans. This guy has one great attribute. He can deliver a prepared speech. And that’s the extent of his qualifications. This guy has gone out of his way to build a false image of himself and for those who don’t do their homework, it all sounds great. Problem is, when you start researching, he comes up short of character.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    CAconservative said:
    jjay7381:

    What do you think got Obimbo elected? I was nothing more than personality and charisma, laced with allot of empty slogans. This guy has one great attribute. He can deliver a prepared speech. And that’s the extent of his qualifications. This guy has gone out of his way to build a false image of himself and for those who don’t do their homework, it all sounds great. Problem is, when you start researching, he comes up short of character.

    And what got Reagan elected? He was a B actor, a terrible administrator as California governor? You may believe in conspiracy stories but most of us live in the real world.

  • Vietnameravet

    Conservatives thrive on fear and bigotry and so she might well have a good chance at winning.. If you don’t believe this just read the ignorant rants of those who say Obama was “groomed to bring this country down” and who think health care reform is socialism while enjoying Medicare themselves. Never underestimate the stupidity and hatefulness of conservatives who dislike black people, who think God is on their side and who think the greatest problem with this country is that the rich dont have enough money and we should all have machine guns!

    Conservatives have done absolutely nothing for this country except get us involved in wars for false reasons and help themselves to big tax breaks. They are ignorant and arrogant and eagerly spread lies and fear and nothing is more fearful to them than a black man who threatens their self righteous all white world. So yes Palin is a possibility because she speaks all the right buzz words that appeal to the secret bigotry of the right who think that they are agents of God and so its okay to spread lies and hate because its all in a good cause!.

    Remember all those tea party folks who insisted they were only concerned about deficits and not a bunch of bigots? Well where are they now that the rich have gotten a tax break that threatens to increase the deficit by nearly a trillion dollars in the next ten years? Case rested.

  • shearwater

    Sarah Palin would make a wonderful “can do” president. But the Washington culture inside the beltway isn’t used to her style and because of that she probably won’t make it. In any case, she should run the best race and see how things turn out in the primaries. It is a free country and anyone can run for President who is born in the United States.

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    shearwater said:
    Sarah Palin would make a wonderful “can do” president. But the Washington culture inside the beltway isn’t used to her style and because of that she probably won’t make it. In any case, she should run the best race and see how things turn out in the primaries. It is a free country and anyone can run for President who is born in the United States.

    Please run Sarah run and win the Republican nomination!

  • http://none pyrope

    writer said:
    What a relief! Now all this bad-mouthing her will stop.

    Wanna bet?

  • http://none pyrope

    shearwater said:
    Sarah Palin would make a wonderful “can do” president.

    She needs a bit more experience to be a GREAT president. If she were elected in 2012, she would not have the depth of political acumen to deal with some of the fixtures in DC.

  • http://none pyrope

    Vietnameravet said:
    Conservatives thrive on fear and bigotry

    BULLSHIT

  • http://none pyrope

    notsofast said:
    I think she should remain as a fundraiser for the Conservatives and stay out of the presidential race.

    Astute.

  • http://none pyrope

    armwood said:
    Today is my birthday

    Happy Birthday.

  • http://none pyrope

    armwood said:
    Romney does not scare people. His Mormon faith will not hurt him in the primaries. He clearly has the money, contacts and experience to run a long, tough, primary race. Palin and Huckabee will both be playing for evangelical and Tea Party voters. Romney will attract Republican establishment voters and financial backers like the Carl Rove crowd.

    We could do a LOT worse.

  • http://none pyrope

    armwood said:
    George Will knows the inside game well.

    Would you support Charles Payne as Secy Treasury? I would like to see him in that role.

  • jjay7381

    CAconservative said:
    jjay7381:

    What do you think got Obimbo elected? I was nothing more than personality and charisma, laced with allot of empty slogans. This guy has one great attribute. He can deliver a prepared speech. And that’s the extent of his qualifications. This guy has gone out of his way to build a false image of himself and for those who don’t do their homework, it all sounds great. Problem is, when you start researching, he comes up short of character.

    At least Obama writes his own speeches. Do you think Palin actually writes any of that shit?

  • http://none pyrope

    jjay7381 said:
    At least Obama writes his own speeches. Do you think Palin actually writes any of that shit?

    You MUST be out of your rabbit-assed mind if you believe that.

  • http://none pyrope

    Here is an article written by Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman. -0bama could NEVER accomplish anything like this on his best day. While I’ve often said that Ms. Palin is not yet ready to be POTUS, she is a damned sight better than the total idiot who currently occupies the Oval Office.

    As posted in comments on Greta’s article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.

    The last 45 of my 66 years I’ve spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here’s the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It’s not about persona, style, rhetoric, it’s about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I’m about to mention here.

    1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor’s office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican’s “Corrupt Bastards Club” (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, “la la la la” (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.

    2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called “ACES.” Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, “don’t let the door hit you in the stern on your way out.” They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

    3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor’s office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as “pork.” She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the “when-hell-freezes-over” stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we’ll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor’s jet because it was extravagant.

    Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor’s cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning – I imagine – that she’s packing heat herself). I’m still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

    4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed “gosh and golly” mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn’t impress you, then you’re trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.

    5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn’t start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.

    6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewable by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona. Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that’s just a cover-up. I’m still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won’t be holding my breath.

    By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn’t let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Should’a known better.

    You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents’ wives.

    So “You go, Girl.” I only wish the men in Washington had your guts, determination, honesty, and morals.

    I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.

    If you’ve read this far …………………………………………now, open your eyes………
    First Lady Michelle Obama’s Servant List and Pay Scale

    First Lady Requires More Than Twenty Attendants

    1. $172,2000 – Sher, Susan (Chief Of Staff)
    2. $140,000 – Frye, Jocelyn C. (Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)
    3. $113,000 – Rogers, Desiree G. (Special Assistant to the President and White House Social Secretary)
    4. $102,000 – Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)
    5. $100,000 – Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
    6. $90,000 – Medina, David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
    7. $84,000 – Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)
    8. $75,000 – Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)
    9. $70,000 – Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the First Lady)
    10. $65,000 – Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
    11. $64,000 – Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)
    12. $62,000 – Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)
    13. $60,000 – Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Director of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)
    14. $57,500 – Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)
    15. $52,500 – Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary to The First Lady)
    16. $50,000 – Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide to The First Lady)
    17. $45,000 – Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)
    18. $43,000 – Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)
    19. $40,000 – Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)
    20. $36,000 – Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)
    21. $35,000 – Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)

    22. $35,000 – Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)

    (This is community organizing at its finest.)
    There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady’s social life. One wonders why she needs so much help, at taxpayer expense, when even Hillary, only had three; Jackie Kennedy one ; Laura Bush one ; and prior to Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the President’s own pocket.

    Note: This does NOT include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and “First Hairstylist” Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard Air Force One to Europe ..

    FRIENDS…..THESE SALARIES ADD UP TO SIX MILLION, THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,364,000) FOR THE 4 YEARS OF OFFICE???? AND WE ARE IN A RECESSION????? WELL….MOST OF US ARE. I GUESS IT’S OK TO SPEND WILDLY WHEN IT’S NOT YOUR OWN MONEY?????

  • Ajolily

    pyrope: Great post, Thank You! I sometimes wonder if she is not ready but after reading your post I am reminded she is. Just don’t know if the country will let her. It will be our great loss if she isn’t President in 2012. She is one of those people who don’t understand the phrase “It can’t be done”. They see something that needs to be done and they do it against all odds. That is exactly the type of person we need in the office of the President to get us out of this mess. I don’t care if there are some things she may not yet know this women learns on the run and having someone with the ba//s to stand up to the good ole boys from either party is more valuable than any educated fool who has learned all the things he can and can’t do. I want someone who ask why can‘t we do it? I want someone who can think outside the box and outside of Washington. She reminds me of President Teddy Roosevelt in that way. Lots of energy, folksy and just couldn’t accept anyone telling him it couldn’t be done. Well now I’ve done it guys. If anyone is still coming to this blog I am going to get lots of thumbs down from both sides. Well too bad if you don’t like it but she really reminds me of him and he was one of the greats.

  • Snidely

    Well, of course George Will thinks Sarah Palin can not be elected president. After all, she’s not an old white guy. And she probably doesn’t even like baseball. Plus, she’s not a charter member of the Republican Establishment, like George Will. Whatever failings she might have, she couldn’t screw up the country any worse than Obama and Bush.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leah-Ma/1391341060 Leah Ma

    It’s bad enough that she doesn’t read anything; and for a Communications major that is baaad but every time she opens her mouth that voice!!!! No president sounds like that! She should take voice modulation lessons.

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