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Glenn Beck Guesses 10% Of Muslims Are Terrorists (UPDATE)

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(UPDATE AT BOTTOM) On his radio show today, Glenn Beck was lamenting the fact that no media outlets (Fox News included!) were covering the growing scourge of Communists and Socialists preaching a violent overthrow here in America. He even proposed that 0.5% of Americans may be violent radicals. Of course, that figure isn’t something you’re likely to hear about since it was handily overshadowed by another stat the host used: Beck guessed that 10% of Muslims are terrorists. You hear that sound? That’s 100% of The View hosts angrily leaving the room. Yeah, even Hasselbeck.

We’re going to give Beck the benefit of the doubt and assume this was just an example of unwisely rattling off a made-up figure and that he doesn’t actually think there are 150,000,000 Muslim terrorists running around. I mean, can you imagine how crowded those caves would be? Seriously though, it’s blanket quotes like this that just make people seem foolish. 10% may not seem like a lot in most cases but, when you’re talking about the second largest religion in the world…

Expect one of two things to happen now: either Beck apologizes (which he should) or he accuses the the inevitable scandal this causes of merely being in place to shift focus away from all those Socialists. I’d give either a 50-50 shot but, then again, I’m as bad at numbers as Beck appears to be.

(H/T)

UPDATE: It looks like I was wrong in guessing that this figure was just a number Beck threw out off the top of his head. Here’s a page from his 2003 book The Real America:

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  • iris

    And the 5% of Americans that watch him have teh stoopid real bad!

  • CosmosDan

    That’s exactly what we need in the media, is more useless speculation. Thanks Glenn for being such a big time contributor.

  • writer

    All this vitriol. Guess we’ll have to wait for GBR to get an unbiased opinion.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Perhaps he’s including those Muslims that may not be part of Al qaeda, but don’t condemn what they do. Just guessing, kind of like he was doing.

  • pakattak

    I luv glenn beck cuz he tells me who to be scurred of

  • MiddleRoader

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Perhaps he’s including those Muslims that may not be part of Al qaeda, but don’t condemn what they do. Just guessing, kind of like he was doing.

    See Michelle, that’s pretty much the problem. Guessing instead of using critical thinking.

  • MiddleRoader

    iris said:
    And the 5% of Americans that watch him have teh stoopid real bad!

    example #1

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Perhaps he’s including those Muslims that may not be part of Al qaeda, but don’t condemn what they do. Just guessing, kind of like he was doing.

  • skyfet

    I bet Beck is one of those 0.3 Radicals.

    Dumb shit! how can the world survive with 200,00,000 Muslims gunning for your head. That’s more than half of the U.S population. That’s almost as the total 290 Million Arabs in the world. If there were so many Terrorists, he wouldn’t be around to be stupid day in day out.

    And this guy is a Messiah for the jokers that follow him. My God, this is the perfect example of the dumbing down of America, the only difference is that he doesn’t know this nor does his followers. The smart people who are dumbing down America know what they are doing, this Joker here just making it up as he goes along.

  • Elaine B

    Glenn Beck is a Hippocratic! He would say and do anything to get a buck, the sad thing is people actually believe this guy!!

    There are billions of Muslims in the world today and only a small few are radical terrorists, I am sick and tired of these generalization that are out and out lies!

    Someone should get Beck off the air! He is a wacko!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Middle Roader,
    The fact the you agree with Iris about anything says more about you than me.

    And Elaine,
    What the heck is a Hippocratic. Learn to speak if you want people to take you seriously.

  • Bill Mahwer

    he could be right……

  • MiddleRoader

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    The fact the you agree with Iris about anything says more about you than me.

    Thank you and you agreeing with Beck speaks volumns on you and the stoopid!

  • writer

    The left seems to fear Beck more than Islamic terrorists. And with Beck, all you have to do is change the channel.

  • Just4thefax

    Fact: Glenn hits it out of the park and the liberals cringe.

  • writer

    Seeing 2012, I think a Hippocratic is one of those big animals that occupy many of the rivers in Africa.

  • Vietnameravet

    100% of the people that watch or listen to this guy are morons!

  • ProgLib

    Did Beck say anything about the tea partiers talking about using 2nd amendment remedies?

  • skyfet

    During WWII Beck would have been interned if he was around because of his NAZI oh I mean his German background. POS, if he wants to call 200 million people terrorist, then perhaps he is a bloody Nazi.

  • The Real Royal King

    writer said:
    The left seems to fear Beck more than Islamic terrorists. And with Beck, all you have to do is change the channel.

    Islamic terrorists are essentially, although not exclusively a foreign threat, Kumquat. Beckerhead is a domestic threat. The latter is always for more dangerous.

  • The Real Royal King

    Why is Beckerhead even guessing about such a thing? For what purpose? All he accomplished is stirring up the unbalanced sorts, like Michelle-in-Utah and Kumquat, into one of their manic states. If you don’t know, Beckerhead, just keep your blow hole closed.

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    If you don’t know, Beckerhead, just keep your blow hole closed.

    Please take your own adivice, King. We’d never hear from you again!

  • Kinnison

    Do you guys need to be reminded of the (quickly taken off the air by the major networks…) mass celebrations and dancing in the streets that occurred in Lebanon and Gaza and the West Bank and in most Middle Eastern Arab countries after Arab terrorists crashed airliners into our builldings on 9-11? As SNL opined in their China skit a couple of weeks ago, “He was right about the gold…” At least 10% of the total Muslim population, if they are not themselves terrorists, actively support radical Islamic terror organizations. And a bunch more of the moderates do not condemn the terrorists’ acts.

  • possibly

    Glenn Beck is a stupid, stupid man who is struggling to stay relevant.

  • writer

    Stirred up? King, I’m not a regular Beck viewer like you are. But unlike you, I do realize he’s just doing an opinion show, and anyone who disagrees with his opinions only needs to change the channel.

  • sarainitaly

    “I mean, can you imagine how crowded those caves would be?”

    That’s the problem – the terrorists aren’t just *hiding in caves*.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jon-Martin/43100610 Jon Martin

    Kinnison said:
    Do you guys need to be reminded of the (quickly taken off the air by the major networks…) mass celebrations and dancing in the streets that occurred in Lebanon and Gaza and the West Bank and in most Middle Eastern Arab countries after Arab terrorists crashed airliners into our builldings on 9-11? As SNL opined in their China skit a couple of weeks ago, “He was right about the gold…” At least 10% of the total Muslim population, if they are not themselves terrorists, actively support radical Islamic terror organizations. And a bunch more of the moderates do not condemn the terrorists’ acts.

    10% of all?

    What about the tons of different muslims sects? Some don’t even believe in the koran?

    You don’t know wtf you’re talking about and either does Glenn Beck, take a trip to the middle east if you want to be an expert.

  • Pablo

    What is the percentage, anyway? Has anyone looked into it? Why, yes. Gallup did.

    The question often revolves around a disputed data point: Of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims, how many are radicals? If the number is relatively small, then the fear of a clash is inflated; if the number is relatively large, then the nightmare might not be so outlandish after all.

    What gives Who Speaks for Islam? its aura of credibility is that its answers are allegedly based on hard data, not taxi-driver anecdotes from a quick visit to Cairo. The book draws on a mammoth, six-year effort to poll and interview tens of thousands of Muslims in more than 35 countries with Muslim majorities or substantial minorities. The polling sample, Esposito and Mogahed claim, represents “more than 90 percent of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims.” To back up the claim, the book bears the name of the gold-standard of American polling firms, Gallup.

    The answer to that all-important question, the authors say, is 7 percent. That is the percentage of Muslims who told pollsters that the attacks of September 11, 2001, were “completely” justified and who said they view the United States unfavorably–the double-barreled litmus test devised by Esposito and Mogahed to determine who is radical and who isn’t.

    BTW, Beck didn’t say it was 10%, he said it was closer to 10% than 1%. Actually listening to a speaker and then accurately quoting him is very, very difficult, I know.

    JOURNALISM!!!

  • Probably NOT wrong

    I think everyone here should just take a deep
    breath and relax until the Crack Investigative staff
    of GlennBeckReview reviews and analyizes Glenn’s
    statement. He most likely was just tweaking progressive
    nutsacks, for usual laughs, but I will defer to The GBRster!!
    Let’s wait!!

  • michiganruth

    possibly said:
    Glenn Beck is a stupid, stupid man who is struggling to stay relevant.

    oh yeah, he’s struggling. struggling with the #2 radio talk show and the #3 TV talk show in the country, and as the author of how many #1 NYT best sellers including his latest?

    I should be struggling like that.

  • Pablo

    Jon Martin said:
    What about the tons of different muslims sects? Some don’t even believe in the koran?

    What Muslim sect doesn’t believe in the Koran?

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    “I mean, can you imagine how crowded those caves would be?”

    That’s the problem – the terrorists aren’t just *hiding in caves*.

    Then, that should make them much easier to find, Tumbleweed.

  • valkyrie101

    Pablo said:
    What is the percentage, anyway? Has anyone looked into it? Why, yes. Gallup did. BTW, Beck didn’t say it was 10%, he said it was closer to 10% than 1%. Actually listening to a speaker and then accurately quoting him is very, very difficult, I know. JOURNALISM!!!

    So yes, 6% of Islamics are terrorists. A mere 90 million.

  • Pablo

    writer said:
    Stirred up? King, I’m not a regular Beck viewer like you are. But unlike you, I do realize he’s just doing an opinion show, and anyone who disagrees with his opinions only needs to change the channel.

    But what else would The Kook do with his life?

  • writer

    The King has even tried unplugging the TV and can still hear Beck. Of course, Beck’s just one of the many voices in the King’s head.

  • Pablo

    ProgLib said:
    Did Beck say anything about the tea partiers talking about using 2nd amendment remedies?

    No but he did mention a few Democrats (2 of them in Congress) that are advocating violent uprising.

  • ImNotBlue

    Pablo said:
    What is the percentage, anyway? Has anyone looked into it? Why, yes. Gallup did. BTW, Beck didn’t say it was 10%, he said it was closer to 10% than 1%. Actually listening to a speaker and then accurately quoting him is very, very difficult, I know. JOURNALISM!!!

    You win the award for most well thought out comment… which will inevitably be ignored by Mediaite writers are the angry-left posters on this site!

  • Mr.Papshmer

    10% of muslims are terrorists? Not even close. However, a greater proportion than that root for the terrorists, you can bet the farm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jon-Martin/43100610 Jon Martin

    Pablo said:
    What Muslim sect doesn’t believe in the Koran?

    Christians for mohammed :D

  • ImNotBlue

    Whoops… “Mediaite writers AND the angry-left posters on this site!”

    I’m starting to write like Elaine. Yeesh.

  • murphy0071

    It appears that Fox News likes liars and nuts to put out their propaganda. Glen Beck is an outrageous malignant narcissist and sociopath. He raves about political issues that don’t even exist. Fox could care less about truth, they are only interested in helping the corporate interests and their criminal bosses.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Elaine B said:
    Glenn Beck is a Hippocratic!

    Hey, aren’t you lefties supposed to be smart? You guys sure come off as really stupid a lot of the time. Just sayin.

  • Thelonious Funk

    And that, my friends, is science.

  • sockpuppet

    ImNotBlue said:
    I’m starting to write like Elaine. Yeesh.

    You may know Elaine B by Eliane B [sic], Gorege [sic] , Bonnie_Mazel , or perhaps Count Istvan .

  • sarainitaly

    Pablo said:
    BTW, Beck didn’t say it was 10%, he said it was closer to 10% than 1%. Actually listening to a speaker and then accurately quoting him is very, very difficult, I know.

    I just listened to it, and you’re right. figures…

  • justanotherconservative

    Elaine B said:
    Glenn Beck is a Hippocratic! He would say and do anything to get a buck, the sad thing is people actually believe this guy!! There are billions of Muslims in the world today and only a small few are radical terrorists, I am sick and tired of these generalization that are out and out lies! Someone should get Beck off the air! He is a wacko!

    and you can’t spell.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Jon wrote, “Of course, that figure isn’t something you’re likely to hear about since it was handily overshadowed by another stat the host used: Beck guessed that 10% of Muslims are terrorists.”

    Where on earth is a guess a statistic, Dumbeckistan?

  • writer

    Using the King’s ‘logic’, since most radical Islamists are ‘foreign’, there’s no way they could ever make it over here to attack us.

  • cjd ohio 1

    jon, christians for mohammed are muslims?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Where on earth is a guess a statistic, Dumbeckistan?

    There, and your stupid website.

  • Pablo

    sarainitaly said:
    I just listened to it, and you’re right. figures…

    It’s easy to make that kind of mistake when you’re just cribbing your copy from Media Matters.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Probably NOT wrong says:
    “I think everyone here should just take a deep breath and relax until the Crack Investigative staff of GlennBeckReview reviews and analyizes Glenn’s statement.”

    Did I disappoint by criticizing Jon and not Beck? Criticizing Beck for pulling numbers, statistics or any other facts out of his ass is simply getting old. I’ll give Beck credit: at least this time he admitted to guessing instead of putting forth the information as if it were fact like he usually does. Maybe he’s getting wiser.

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Oh shit, I amuse myself.

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    I just listened to it, and you’re right. figures…

    That makes it better, how? He’s just pulling numbers out of his Blower to rile up his unbalanced band of nincompoops.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King said:
    Pablo says:
    December 6, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Except he’s apparently not. Please see: Pablo @ December 6, 2010 at 1:52 pm and the mentioned Gallup study.

  • writer

    And when Beck comes up with those numbers, GBR and the King will be glued to the set.

  • Pablo

    ImNotBlue said:
    Except he’s apparently not. Please see: Pablo @ December 6, 2010 at 1:52 pm and the mentioned Gallup study.

    ImNotBlue, don’t go confusing The Kook with facts. He’s just getting his Beck fantasy on. Maybe if we let him finish rubbing one out, he’ll go take a nap.

  • dahni

    Probably closer to 90% of Muslims would do violent, terrorist acts against anyone if so directed by their Imam. I lived in Kuwait, and did business in Malaysia and Indonesia for 6 years, until 1995. Muslims whom I considered friends, who invited me to their wedding and to celebrate the birth of a son, verified that if a holy jihad were called they would have to choice but to do as directed by the Quran. I was told, with no change in expression or tone, that if it were required, under the Quran, they would have to kill me as well. These were well educated Muslims, he with an MA from Oxford.

    Here’s more information.

    Muslim Women

    20 years from now, I will be in Heaven –bye !!
    This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim.

    This is not hearsay, and it will scare the life out of you.
    Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.

    Joys of Muslim Women
    By Nonie Darwish

    In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old and have sexual intimacy with this child.
    Consummating the marriage by 9.

    The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his slave)
    and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as a toy.

    Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.
    To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.
    Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the family must return the dowry.
    The family has the right to execute her (an honor killing) to restore the honor of the family.
    Husbands can beat their wives ‘at will’ and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

    The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour (prostitute) at his discretion.

    The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of the woman.

    In the West World ( America and Britain )
    Muslim men are starting to demand Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and complete control of her.
    It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters and daughters attending American Universities
    and British Universities are now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

    By passing this on, enlightened American and British women may avoid becoming a slave under Shariah Law.
    Ripping the West in Two.
    Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to impose Shariah law on the world,
    ripping Western law and liberty in two..

    She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law.

    Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978,
    when she was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel .
    He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family in Gaza ..

    When he died, he was considered a “shahid,” a martyr for jihad.
    His posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim society.

    But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her own Muslim culture and upbringing..
    She converted to Christianity after hearing a Christian preacher on television.

    In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping sharia law – what it is, what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

    For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the world.
    If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed.
    Westerners generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each individual.
    Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be subjugated or killed in this world.

    Peace and prosperity for one’s children is not as important as assuring that Islamic law rules
    everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

    While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the golden rule,
    Sharia teaches two systems of ethics – one for Muslims and another for non-Muslims.
    Building on tribal practices of the seventh century,
    Sharia encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and subjugate others.

    While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a personal understanding of and relationship with God,
    Sharia advocates executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as criticism.

    It’s hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that those who criticize Islam or
    choose to stop being Muslim should be executed.
    Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by many in the West,
    such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through intimidation.

    While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over time,
    Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely intolerant form
    of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

    (In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. and Britain To elect the President by themselves!
    Rest assured they will do so…
    You can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn Mich. Is one…
    And there are others..) (Britain
    has several cities now totally controlled by Muslims)

    I think everyone in Australia, U.S. and Great Britain should be required to read this,
    but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

    It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to accept Muslims as peaceful..
    Some may be but they have an army that is willing to shed blood in the name of Islam..
    The peaceful support the warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion.
    While America and Britain is getting rid of Christianity from all public sites and erasing God from the lives
    of children the Muslims are planning a great jihad on America .. ( Britain and probably Australia) .

  • ImNotBlue

    Pablo said:
    ImNotBlue, don’t go confusing The Kook with facts. He’s just getting his Beck fantasy on. Maybe if we let him finish rubbing one out, he’ll go take a nap.

    Yeah, but when confronted with facts he doesn’t like, King tends to run away for a day or two. I’m just trying to do my part. :)

  • CAconservative

    Did you Progressive nut-sacks actually listen to what he was saying, or just imposed what you think he was saying?! Keep up the great work you do Glenn. Keep informing the dweebs until they are forced to listen!

  • The Real Royal King

    ImNotBlue said:
    Yeah, but when confronted with facts he doesn’t like, King tends to run away for a day or two. I’m just trying to do my part. :)

    Sorry to contradict you, but you lie so often I am sure you are accustomed to it. First: To call this a study is absurd. There is nothing remotely academic about it. Second: To call this a poll or a survey is ridiculous. Sound polling methodology is not used in it. This is nothing but street-wise musings of cherry-picked interview responses mixed with some extrapolations without foundation or scientific protocol. One of the “writers”, Dalia Mogahed, even stated in a post-release speech that her findings established that American Muslims are not more likely to be prone to political violence than Americans as a whole. So, the 7% figure is an utter fabrication which is to support the notion that Muslims are not predisposed to violence or terrorism. Frankly, even Willow Palin could see the thin veneer of scholasticism and science used in this “survey” which leads me to conclude that the insufferable Beckerhead simply seized on a number without ever having critically reviewed the scholarship. Indeed, if he read it all. Even more perplexing is Beckerhead’s willingness to adopt and to endorse the work of Mogahed. Mogahed is an Obama appointee, in my view the worst Obama appointee.

    I humbly suggest, INB, you go peddle this Beckerhead kart o’ krap to his brain-dead sycophants who are unable to critically review even the simplest of studies.

    And, so I say: Adieu to You!

  • sarainitaly

    The Real Royal King said:
    He’s just pulling numbers out of his Blower to rile up his unbalanced band of nincompoops.

    and it worked – look how riled up you are.

  • Pablo

    The Real Rabid Kook said:
    I humbly suggest, INB, you go peddle this Beckerhead kart o’ krap to his brain-dead sycophants who are unable to critically review even the simplest of studies.

    Gallup, dumbass. Not Beck, Gallup.

    First: To call this a study is absurd. There is nothing remotely academic about it. Second: To call this a poll or a survey is ridiculous. Sound polling methodology is not used in it. This is nothing but street-wise musings of cherry-picked interview responses mixed with some extrapolations without foundation or scientific protocol.

    Try again, Kook.

    “The book draws on a mammoth, six-year effort to poll and interview tens of thousands of Muslims in more than 35 countries with Muslim majorities or substantial minorities. The polling sample, Esposito and Mogahed claim, represents “more than 90 percent of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims.”"

  • sarainitaly

    ImNotBlue said:
    Yeah, but when confronted with facts he doesn’t like, King tends to run away for a day or two. I’m just trying to do my part. :)

    The Real Royal King said:
    And, so I say: Adieu to You!

  • Bad Wolf

    If a tree only falls in Beck’s universe and no where else, Will it make a sound? What a clown.

  • The Real Royal King

    Pablo said:
    Gallup, dumbass. Not Beck, Gallup.

    Try again, Kook.

    “The book draws on a mammoth, six-year effort to poll and interview tens of thousands of Muslims in more than 35 countries with Muslim majorities or substantial minorities. The polling sample, Esposito and Mogahed claim, represents “more than 90 percent of the world’s 1.3 billion Muslims.””

    Moron. It’s not Gallup. It is a Gallup-sponsored research facility. Please read.

    sarainitaly said:

    Of course, in your usual intellectual dishonesty, you failed to note that I substantively addressed your lying friend’s screed with a thoughtful, articulate analysis. Something one never sees from you.

  • Pablo

    The Real Rabid Kook said:
    Moron. It’s not Gallup. It is a Gallup-sponsored research facility. Please read.

    Yeah, read moron:

    Gallup Press exists to educate and inform the people who govern, manage, teach and lead the world’s six billion citizens. Each book meets Gallup’s requirements of integrity, trust and independence and is based on a Gallup-approved science and research.

    Read more, moron:

    MOGAHED: I can’t off the top of my head [recall the data], but we are going to be putting some of those findings in our [updated] book and our website.

    To clarify a couple of things about the book–the book is not a hard-covered polling report. The book is a book about the modern Muslim world that used its polling to inform its analysis. So that’s important: It’s meant for a general audience, and it’s not meant to be a polling report. One very important reason why is because Gallup is selling subscriptions to its data. We are a for-profit company; we are not Pew. We are Gallup.

    We. Are. Gallup. Did you read that, Kook?

  • Dosser

    The Real Royal King said:
    Frankly, even Willow Palin could see the thin veneer of scholasticism and science used in this “survey” which leads me to conclude that the insufferable Beckerhead simply seized on a number without ever having critically reviewed the scholarship.

    My dear lord,you outdid yourself on this one Kingy,haha.
    Anyways,I must share this gem i found with you all.Here’s a great review of the new hit AMC series,’The Walking Dead’.It’s from a Conservative perspective but I’m sure everyone will enjoy it.
    http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/mpatterson/2010/12/06/walking-dead-review-next-season-wed-like-fewer-cliches-more-zombies/

    “Zombie movies make the best case for the 2nd Amendment and the armed citizen. Both points which liberal critics never mention.”

    Ha! Beat that Kingy,haha.

  • The Real Royal King

    Pablo said:
    Yeah, read moron:

    Read more, moron:

    We. Are. Gallup. Did you read that, Kook?

    Yes, I did. Twice now. Once before you printed it.

    You lack the ability to read critically and think analytically, don’t you? Shame, really.

  • Pablo

    Moron. It’s not Gallup.

    We are Gallup.

    Yeah, it’s me that can’t do the math on that one. You’re demented, Kook.

  • Fox News: Better that we sell Hate than Crack

    ImNotBlue said:
    ImNotBlue says:
    December 6, 2010 at 2:53 pm  (Quote)

    Why are you participating on this blog again?

  • Calvin

    Pablo said:
    Yeah, it’s me that can’t do the math on that one. You’re demented, Kook.

    … and he still gets one thumbs-up for his last two comments.

  • Just4thefax

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Jon wrote, “Of course, that figure isn’t something you’re likely to hear about since it was handily overshadowed by another stat the host used: Beck guessed that 10% of Muslims are terrorists.” Where on earth is a guess a statistic, Dumbeckistan?

    Fact: Why do you even bother to post if that’s all you can come up with. Another swing and a miss!

  • Just4thefax

    Jon Martin said:
    10% of all? What about the tons of different muslims sects? Some don’t even believe in the koran? You don’t know wtf you’re talking about and either does Glenn Beck, take a trip to the middle east if you want to be an expert.

    Fact: Muslim sec ‘a’ is a Muslim sec ‘b’ is a Muslim sec ‘c’ etc… a thousand times = Muslims Mathmatics 101
    Liberals being liberal!

  • sarainitaly

    The Real Royal King said:
    a thoughtful, articulate analysis.

    Something one never sees from you.

  • The Real Royal King

    Fox News: Better that we sell Hate than Crack said:
    Why are you participating on this blog again?

    Bored with Koldys would be my guess.

  • Just4thefax

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Probably NOT wrong says:“I think everyone here should just take a deep breath and relax until the Crack Investigative staff of GlennBeckReview reviews and analyizes Glenn’s statement.” Did I disappoint by criticizing Jon and not Beck? Criticizing Beck for pulling numbers, statistics or any other facts out of his ass is simply getting old. I’ll give Beck credit: at least this time he admitted to guessing instead of putting forth the information as if it were fact like he usually does. Maybe he’s getting wiser. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Oh shit, I amuse myself.

    Fact: All your post are funny too. Thanks for the comical breaks! hahahahahaahah….

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:

    I don’t have time for your superficialities now. Choir practice. Christmas is coming.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King says:
    December 6, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    ImNotBlue said:

    Ha! I knew that would get you. Your vanity and ego are so easy to toy with. Makes you terribly predictable.

    Sorry to contradict you, but you lie so often I am sure you are accustomed to it.

    Uh-huh… sure sure.

    First: To call this a study is absurd. There is nothing remotely academic about it.

    When someone like Royal starts with semantics, you know they feel like they’re on the ropes. Please explain why this wasn’t a “study.”

    Second: To call this a poll or a survey is ridiculous. Sound polling methodology is not used in it.

    Which is why it bears the “Gallup” name.

    This is nothing but street-wise musings of cherry-picked interview responses mixed with some extrapolations without foundation or scientific protocol. One of the “writers”, Dalia Mogahed, even stated in a post-release speech that her findings established that American Muslims are not more likely to be prone to political violence than Americans as a whole. So, the 7% figure is an utter fabrication which is to support the notion that Muslims are not predisposed to violence or terrorism.

    Your assumption is that “terrorism = violence.” That is not necessarily true. You can still be classified as a “terrorist,” even if you don’t commit acts of terror yourself. If you support or fund terrorists and terrorism, you can safely be considered part of the “terrorist” group.

    Frankly, even Willow Palin…

    Nothing like attacking a child for no relevant reason, right Royal? Wasn’t it you who told me that you acknowledged that you were irrational when it came to Palin and her family? Well, at least you’re living up to your own standards.

    …could see the thin veneer of scholasticism and science used in this “survey” which leads me to conclude that the insufferable Beckerhead simply seized on a number without ever having critically reviewed the scholarship. Indeed, if he read it all.

    Or Gallup, apparently.

    Even more perplexing is Beckerhead’s willingness to adopt and to endorse the work of Mogahed. Mogahed is an Obama appointee, in my view the worst Obama appointee.

    Yeah, it always sucks when the things you say and assume about Beck don’t come true. Of course, to someone like you… that’s still Beck’s fault.

    I humbly suggest, INB, you go peddle this Beckerhead kart o’ krap to his brain-dead sycophants who are unable to critically review even the simplest of studies.

    I thought you didn’t think this was a “study.” Hmmm.

    And, so I say: Adieu to You!

    Riiight.

    The Real Royal King says:
    December 6, 2010 at 4:27 pm

    Moron. It’s not Gallup. It is a Gallup-sponsored research facility. Please read.

    Umm… if they sponsor it, doesn’t that fall under the “Gallup” umbrella? Doesn’t that mean they’re supporting it? Or in your world, does financially backing a study/group/or book mean nothing?

    Of course, in your usual intellectual dishonesty, you failed to note that I substantively addressed your lying friend’s screed with a thoughtful, articulate analysis. Something one never sees from you.

    And where is it that you did that? I mean, what website… ’cause it wasn’t this one.

    Fox News: Better that we sell Hate than Crack says:
    December 6, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    Why are you participating on this blog again?

    Eh… I’m bored and don’t feel well today. Just trying to distract myself.

    Thanks for asking!

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Elaine B says:
    “Someone should get Beck off the air! He is a wacko!”

    Someone is trying:
    http://www.jewishjustice.org/webform/petition-murdoch

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Just4thefax says:
    “Fact: All your post are funny too.”

    I know from interacting with many of Beck’s flock that they’re not all as stupid as someone who does not know the difference between a fact and an opinion, but a lot of them do come off as wildly uneducated bigots like you.

    Just4thefax says:
    “Fact: You’re correct Gore would have submitted and begged for forgiveness. You Glenn want to be faggot.”

    Once again you prove that you don’t know the difference between a fact and an opinion AND you dropped out of school before you learned how to write a proper sentence. Oh, and you’re a reactionary, bigoted homophobe.

  • cjd ohio 1

    censorship sucks

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    Elaine says:

    Someone should get Beck off the air!!

    GBR says:
    Someone is trying:
    http://www.jewishjustice.org/webform/petition-murdoch

    And faling miserably!!

  • SarahP

    About 90% of Beck fans are easily manipulated and cow-eyed, the other 10% know they are being conned but don’t care.

  • iris

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    Elaine says: Someone should get Beck off the air!! GBR says:Someone is trying:http://www.jewishjustice.org/webform/petition-murdoch And faling miserably!!

    MichelleF doesn’t like the Jews, imagine that!
    Mazel Tov!

  • Seeing 2012 From My Window

    And Iris again makes no sense, imagine that!!

  • jrcmi

    “Do you guys need to be reminded of the (quickly taken off the air by the major networks…) mass celebrations and dancing in the streets that occurred in Lebanon and Gaza and the West Bank and in most Middle Eastern Arab countries after Arab terrorists crashed airliners into our builldings on 9-11? ”

    Do YOU need to be reminded about the candlelight vigil held in Tehran for the victims of the attack (which we NEVER saw on U.S. TV, to my knowledge)? Every country and religion will have its share of nutcases, who get coverage far beyond their numbers or importance (e.g., the half-dozen members of the New Black Panthers on Fakes “News”).

    “he’s just doing an opinion show”

    Like most of the hosts on Fakes “News,” he presents his “opinions” as FACTS – not unlike just4theflakes, above . . . and with similar non-credibility. Alas, too much of the lazy “Fox populi” accept his “facts” at face value rather than seek out the truth.

    “Glenn Beck is a stupid, stupid man”

    Beck is a calculated liar. He makes outrageous claims to get attention/ratings, facts be damned. I know this because he gave three different versions of an encounter involving Babara Walters. Only one could be true.

    “JOURNALISM!!!”

    BULL!!! Just because seven percent of Muslims allegedly think the attack was justified doesn’t mean those same people would’ve grabbed a box cutter and hopped on one of the planes – any more than your rooting for OTHER Americans to die in illegal Middle Eastern wars means you’d enlist and join the fun. It’s an absurd and dishonest extrapolation.

    ImNotBlue said:
    You win the award for most well thought out comment… which will inevitably be ignored by Mediaite writers are the angry-left posters on this site!

    WRONG!!! See above.

    michiganruth said:
    possibly said:
    Glenn Beck is a stupid, stupid man who is struggling to stay relevant.

    oh yeah, he’s struggling. struggling with the #2 radio talk show and the #3 TV talk show in the country, and as the author of how many #1 NYT best sellers including his latest?

    I should be struggling like that.

    We should ALL struggle with the truth. Beck doesn’t – he makes up his own.

    Mr.Krapsmear snorted:
    Hey, aren’t you lefties supposed to be smart? You guys sure come off as really stupid a lot of the time. Just sayin.

    You’re a Hippocratic oaf. Just sayin’.

    “It’s easy to make that kind of mistake when you’re just cribbing your copy from Media Matters.”

    This is request #32 for proof of factual errors by MediaMatters.org. Still waiting.

    dahni said:
    Probably closer to 90% of Muslims would do violent, terrorist acts against anyone if so directed by their Imam.

    Then why haven’t they done so? The facts do not bear out your far-fetched presumption.

    You quoted an article written by somebody, somewhere. Without providing attribution, no rational person would give it credence.

    Bad Wolf said:
    If a tree only falls in Beck’s universe and no where else, Will it make a sound? What a clown.

    Beck calls himself a “rodeo clown” as a means of avoiding responsibility for the outrageous, corrosive and dishonest bile he spews like a busted sewer pipe. He hopes the thoughtful among us will simply dismiss him while the brain-dead buy into his books/gold/university scams.

    ““Zombie movies make the best case for the 2nd Amendment and the armed citizen. Both points which liberal critics never mention.””

    Since O’Donnell, Buck and Angle lost, we’re safe from the zombies. No,wait – ALAN WEST! Yikes!

    The original intent of the 2nd amendment was to provide for a militia, a la Switzerland, not necessarily an armed citizenry. Just thought I’d mention it.

    Fox News: Better that we sell Hate than Crack said:
    Why are you participating on this blog again?

    Ran out of booze? Blow? He must be on SOMETHING.

    King gave Willow Palin some credit, which INB turned into an “attack.” ImNotTrue had no valid reply, so he distorted the original statement. Typical “neocon man” tactic.

  • cjd ohio 1

    wrong on 2nd amendment a la switzerland

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    beck is a bigot and he proved it when he had house rep. keith ellison on his show and believed that he was his enemy and a danger to america only because he was a muslim.

  • iris

    Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
    And Iris again makes no sense, imagine that!!

    MichelleF, you make such a good German
    Mazel Tov! Happy Hannukah!

  • disenlightened

    For all you doubters, take a few days off and read The Truth About Muhammad and The Stealth Jihad, both by Robert Spencer, then American Jihad by Steven Emerson and The Grand Jihad by Andrew McCarthy. Beck could have used the words “potential terrorists” rather than just “terrorists” when speaking of the 10%, and I’m sure he would if he could take it back, but you try talking 4 hours a day on radio and television without misspeaking occasionally. Surely 10% of Muslims at least sympathize with the terrorists.

  • just a conservative girl

    Actually the experts say that the number is 7%. The term that they use is radicalized. While not all of them may be willing to become a bomber, they certainly wouldn’t stop them.
    Deny it all you like, but that what terrorism experts around the world say.

  • iris

    disenlightened said:
    For all you doubters, take a few days off and read The Truth About Muhammad and The Stealth Jihad, both by Robert Spencer, then American Jihad by Steven Emerson and The Grand Jihad by Andrew McCarthy. Beck could have used the words “potential terrorists” rather than just “terrorists” when speaking of the 10%, and I’m sure he would if he could take it back, but you try talking 4 hours a day on radio and television without misspeaking occasionally. Surely 10% of Muslims at least sympathize with the terrorists.

    Aw looky there hes so scared of the muslim he peepeed his pants.
    You right wing asshats are such hypocrites cause you think the Saudis that that we have found out are funding al qeada are just fine waltzing into America doing business where ever they please and taking our money but YOU think Julian A shoud be punished for telling us that they are stabbing us in the back

  • ImNotBlue

    jrcmi says:
    December 6, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    You’re always my favorite poster. So angry, and almost informed… but not quite there.

    Let’s go over a few points:

    Every country and religion will have its share of nutcases, who get coverage far beyond their numbers or importance…

    When those “nutcases” are responsible for 3000 people getting murdered, do you think that rises to a significant level of importance?

    Additionally, you’re somewhat agreeing with Beck on this point. He said a percentage of Muslims fall into this group… ie: what part of the whole are “nutcases.” But as I said above, when your “nutcases” call for murder and destruction, and have actually been found responsible for that, well it become newsworthy.

    Like most of the hosts on Fakes “News,” he presents his “opinions” as FACTS…

    Wow, “Fakes” news… very clever. Of course, why would you put “News” in quotes, but not “Fakes?” Seems like you’d only need one, not both. But whatever, that’s the least of our troubles.

    Anyway… no he doesn’t.

    Just because seven percent of Muslims allegedly think the attack was justified doesn’t mean those same people would’ve grabbed a box cutter and hopped on one of the planes…

    So? You’re limiting your definition of “terrorist” so you can warp your point. Fact is, supporting and funding terrorism, makes you a terrorist. So the people who say, “Right on,” embolden those who go out and get their hands dirty. Without them, the hijackers wouldn’t have had the resources or the ability to carry out their attacks.

    WRONG!!! See above.

    On this, you are correct. You are an angry-left poster who didn’t ignore that post. You’ve ignored logic and common sense in an effort to defend a bogus attack on Beck… but not that post.

    So we’re making progress, I suppose.

    You’re a Hippocratic oaf. Just sayin’.

    Two people who write “Hippocratic.” Interesting… we should try to get Jr. and Elaine together… or maybe, they already are.

    This is request #32 for proof of factual errors by MediaMatters.org. Still waiting.

    Here’s a fun one from a few weeks ago!

    I know I know… there’s a reason why it doesn’t count. I’ll give you time to make something up.

    Beck calls himself a “rodeo clown” as a means of avoiding responsibility for the outrageous, corrosive and dishonest bile he spews like a busted sewer pipe.

    Out of curiosity, how is that different than what Jon Stewart does?

    No,wait – ALAN WEST! Yikes!

    Racist.

    The original intent of the 2nd amendment was to provide for a militia, a la Switzerland, not necessarily an armed citizenry. Just thought I’d mention it.

    You said something before about stating opinions as fact, and that being a bad thing. I bring that up now because… well, you know, irony… hypocrisy… stuff you won’t quite understand I’m sure.

    Ran out of booze? Blow? He must be on SOMETHING.

    Nope, still plenty of booze… but I don’t drink that early in the day… I guess you do. You might want to seek some help about that.

    King gave Willow Palin some credit, which INB turned into an “attack.”

    Seriously? You think that was King giving Willow Palin “credit?”

    In that case: You can’t possibly be dumb enough to think we’d believe that. See! I complimented you!

    ImNotTrue

    Clever…

    …had no valid reply, so he distorted the original statement. Typical “neocon man” tactic.

    Of course, I was 100% correct, an you’re attempt to pretend that Royal wasn’t attacking (for no relevant reason) one of Ms. Palin’s children is pretty pathetic. But I know, you’ve just gotta do what you gotta do.

    Oh, Jr, Jr, Jr… how time flies when we’re having fun. Let’s do this again sometime.

  • milynily

    After the Stalin /communist plot in the Rockefeller building architecture he lost me forever. I’m sure he has to find something more outrageous all the time to keep viewers.

  • Patrick Henry

    Elaine B said:
    Glenn Beck is a Hippocratic!

    He’s a doctor?

  • TCinAZ

    Elaine B said:
    There are billions of Muslims in the world today and only a small few are radical terrorists, I am sick and tired of these generalization that are out and out lies!

    Hey Elaine B, I’ve got an Idea. I’ll do the All of the Dirty Work so You can enjoy the spoils of Empire later.
    The Ottoman Empire, to be Exact. So Whaddaya Think? Sound like a Plan?

    Or, you can just keep listening to the likes of Whoopi and Behar, who thought that a Madrassa was new Coffee Combo a Starbucks before O’Reilly “Offended their Sensibilities” but then probably had them actually opening a book about Islam, and learning something about it. Like about how they’re ok with applying certain kind of rectomies’ to some of their Females.

    Ya’ know, because That one, over There has that certain “Probably gonna be promiscuous and/or an adultress look in the future Look in her eye – fellow villagers. So we’d better chop-chop Now, to kill any desires She might have.just in Case”. But Hey! That Goat down yonder sure is lookin’ kinda Hot!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_lz-__zmM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK8XN3uZk7s

    Yeah E B, “Modern Era” Islam just Rocks!

    Oh and btw, Elaine, I’m hardly a Fan of O’Reilly, but if He Hadn’t Blasted the The View’s Fking Dingbats for their PC Bullshit and general Ignonance of Today’s Islam, then somebody Else Would have. Like Ayaan Hirsi Ali perhaps? But They probably would’ve thought that She’s the Champ’s “other” Daughter who was there to talk about Boxing, and would’ve walked off the set Again.

    Lastly, for All of you Proggies who are So Big on trying to “reason and negotiate” for peace with Radical Islamists. Well, You’ll all be Thrilled to know that “just” One in Four Turks believes that it’s A-OK to Blow Yourself Up if your friendly neighborhood Imam or town Elder says that the Holy Koran’s directed you to Do so.

    Now, the Population of Turkey is about 75 Million. So do the Math and Good Luck to you in your negotiating peace with their Rads. Especially since Turkey’s “Supposed to be” one of the world’s more Moderate Islamic countries that “Artfully and Moderately” Impaled and then Roasted one Athanasios Diakos http://www.byzantinos.com/Ottomans/The_Ottoman%20_cruelty.html (among Others) long Before there was a U.S.A to Blame for Everything that’s Wrong with the world Today, And before those Cretan throwaway Sea People made up Country called “Palestine”, that was gonna be Their new “homeland” just because Some (but not All of those) Pesky Damn Joos had been chased out of Israel. So like I said, Good Luck negotiating just Them – Alone. Never Mind your negotiating w/the Rest of them.

    Oh Yeah, and Happy Boating Too. lol.

  • SarahP

    TCinAZ said:

    Any reason you find it Necessary To Capitalize Words that Most Sane people Wouldn’t? You are a buffoon trying just a little too hard to come off as someone who knows what they are talking about. Nice try dolt. Hey TZinASS, epic fucking fail mean anything to you?

  • esd2000

    And 100% of FOX personalities are clueless heartless.

  • esd2000

    And 100% of FOX personalities are against anything President Obama tries to do.

  • esd2000

    And 100% of FOX personalities think Sarah Palin is qualified to be President.

  • esd2000

    And 100% of FOX personalities think the war in Iraq was justified.

  • disenlightened

    Elaine B said:
    Glenn Beck is a Hippocratic!

    Patrick Henry said:
    He’s a doctor?

    Yes, according to Elaine B, Beck not only spews rederick, but he’s also a hippocratic! Hang the man!

  • SarahP

    disenlightened said:
    Yes, according to Elaine B, Beck not only spews rederick, but he’s also a hippocratic! Hang the man!

    Have no clue what the term means do you? No cheating.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    The left seems to fear Beck more than Islamic terrorists. And with Beck, all you have to do is change the channel.

    It’s possible that blind partisan ignorance is more of a threat to this nation than terrorism.

  • TCinAZ

    nope. no reason whatsover, d’bag. i simply live in the real world, so i know their history as well as my own, backward and forwards, bottom up, top down and inside out, as van jones would say, thanks to more than a dozen trips to greece (including one to constantinople, to visit that former haji ‘community center’), and thanks also to my having attended eight years of greek school, every day, after elementary school and junior high when i was comin’ up, in order to re-learn our and their history. i.e, to learn the uncorrputed, unvarnished truth from proggie-free textbooks and non-union teachers about what monsters some, but obviously not all muslims, really are.

    ps. HEY LOOK! NO CAPS! NONE! Happy Now? So maybe you’d like to come over and “Try” to Police what’s in my Garage? And what kinda Bulbs I’m using? And what’s in my Fridge? And what my Co2 levels are Too? Oh Please say Yes! Lol!

  • TCinAZ

    whatsover..whatsoever whatever. fuck you. lol

  • SarahP

    TCinAZ said:
    nope. no reason whatsover, d’bag. i simply live in the real world, so i know their history as well as my own, backward and forwards, bottom up, top down and inside out, as van jones would say, thanks to more than a dozen trips to greece (including one to constantinople, to visit that former haji ‘community center’), and thanks also to my having attended eight years of greek school, every day, after elementary school and junior high when i was comin’ up, in order to re-learn our and their history. i.e, to learn the uncorrputed, unvarnished truth from proggie-free textbooks and non-union teachers about what monsters some, but obviously not all muslims, really are.

    ps. HEY LOOK! NO CAPS! NONE! Happy Now? So maybe you’d like to come over and “Try” to Police what’s in my Garage? And what kinda Bulbs I’m using? And what’s in my Fridge? And what my Co2 levels are Too? Oh Please say Yes! Lol!

    TCinASS, let me tell you the way it is, Listen up an learn numb-nuts. You live with your micro cephalic head up your ass. That much is obvious and by the way, you wouldn’t know history if it came up and bit you in your big buffoonish cavernous ass. But as I said, nice try dolt. LAMO!!

  • disenlightened

    SarahP said:
    Have no clue what the term means do you? No cheating.

    She never lets the English language get in her way.

  • SarahP

    disenlightened said:
    She never lets the English language get in her way.

    Sarah Palin? Couldn’t agree more. I’m assuming you do understand the term. You do don’t you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Kaib/1091662620 Josh Kaib

    Maybe he is referring to that 10 percent as being SYMPATHETIC to Islamic Extremists. 10% aren’t terrorists, but that figure is believable if he is talking about sympathy toward radical Muslims. Considering that many Muslims around the world don’t believe that Al-Qaeda is responsible for 9/11, I can see Mr. Beck’s figure being accurate.

    http://americantruthmachine.wordpress.com/

  • Pablo

    iris said:
    You right wing asshats are such hypocrites cause you think the Saudis that that we have found out are funding al qeada

    What percentage of Saudis, vIris?

  • SarahP

    Josh Kaib said:
    Maybe he is referring to that 10 percent as being SYMPATHETIC to Islamic Extremists. 10% aren’t terrorists, but that figure is believable if he is talking about sympathy toward radical Muslims. Considering that many Muslims around the world don’t believe that Al-Qaeda is responsible for 9/11, I can see Mr. Beck’s figure being accurate.

    http://americantruthmachine.wordpress.com/

    Mr. Becks figure was pulled straight from his ass.

  • disenlightened

    SarahP said:
    Sarah Palin? Couldn’t agree more. I’m assuming you do understand the term. You do don’t you?

    No, little girl, I wasn’t talking about Palin, I was referring to Elaine B. And, yes, I do know all about the Hippocratic Oath and, unlike you, didn’t have to consult Wikipedia. Now, go brush your hair, do your nails and get caught up on TMZ. And remember, every time I see your little avatar, followed by your silly little churlish nonsense, I like Palin even more.

  • Contessa

    And 10% of Americans are morons – which explains the large audience Glenn Beck attracks.

  • cjd ohio 1

    attracts

  • disenlightened

    iris said:
    Aw looky there hes so scared of the muslim he peepeed his pants.
    You right wing asshats are such hypocrites cause you think the Saudis that that we have found out are funding al qeada are just fine waltzing into America doing business where ever they please and taking our money but YOU think Julian A shoud be punished for telling us that they are stabbing us in the back

    I’m sorry, but did you say, “hiccup”?

  • TCinAZ

    SarahP yelped:
    TCinASS, let me tell you the way it is, Listen up an learn numb-nuts. You live with your micro cephalic head up your ass. That much is obvious and by the way, you wouldn’t know history if it came up and bit you in your big buffoonish cavernous ass. But as I said, nice try dolt. LAMO!!

    wow. who’d a thunk it? A proggie goes ad-hom when he can’t even pull Bogus stats out of his Own azz to counter legitimate stats.

    “Turkish ( “atheist” muslims, like Cenk, wink-wink, who have no qualms about bashing Christians) were the most conflicted, with just more than half reporting positive views of Islam’s influence in politics. Turkey has struggled in recent years to balance a secular political system with an increasingly fervent Muslim population.”

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-1206-muslim-poll-20101206,0,252922.story

    But have no Fear, SarahP! Because there’s some Good news Too! As a Full 15% of Pakistani muslims said that they would Not, that’s NOT support a law segregating men and women in the workplace. WooHoo!

    So there Is, in fact, Hope for HopeyChange in the Islamic World if, perhaps, he makes Another ankle-grabbing apology tour for America’s even Existing and then, Yes We Can maybe up That stat to say, 25% by the 22nd Century?

    Or in Short, it’s All Good.

    “Reporting from Beirut — A majority of Muslims around the world welcome a significant role for Islam in their countries’ political life, according to a new poll from the Pew Research Center, but have mixed feelings toward militant religious groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.”

    Well to be Fair, I Also have mixed feelings towards Our militant religious groups, Like the Westboro Baptist preacher and Registered Democrat, Freddie “Da’ Inbreed” Phelps and Big Jimbo Wallis.

    e.g, would I like “someone” to finally beat the Hell out of them for their often encouraging violence in sotto (and Not So Sotto) voce And for their disrupting and disrespecting the funerals of our fallen Marines and Soldiers? Or, would I like a Lot of “someones” to do the same to them And to all of their Followers at the Same Time so we could just be Done with it?

    A Question for the Ages.

  • jrcmi

    jrcmi says:
    December 6, 2010 at 6:14 pm

    “You’re always my favorite poster. So angry, and almost informed… but not quite there.”

    You’re “not quite all there” yourself.

    When people lie to me, it bothers me. You?

    “Let’s go over a few points:

    Every country and religion will have its share of nutcases, who get coverage far beyond their numbers or importance…

    When those “nutcases” are responsible for 3000 people getting murdered, do you think that rises to a significant level of importance?”

    You’re conflating – yet again.

    Terrorists are nutcases: rational people don’t commit irrational acts. That goes for bin Laden as much as it does for the sadsack who killed Dr. George Tiiler. I was highlighting the craven cynicism of Fakes “NEWS’” pimping of the New Black Panthers – all six or so of them – as an imminent threat to the heartland of America . . . despite a complete lack of proof.

    You inject the word “murder” to bolster your shaky argument, seeking to incite anger rather than produce meaningful discussion. If we’d treated bin Laden and the others as murderers – the way Clinton did with the first WTC bombers – we could have pursued them as murderers, tried them as murderers and imprisoned or executed them as murderers. Instead, Bush needed a war or two so he elevated these murderers to “terrorist” status, which served only to heighten their profile in the Muslim world.

    ONE guy – a Christian terrorist – took down the Murrah building. (Okay – one guy with some help.) What percentage of Christians are terrorists, Glenn/INT? George Bush invaded one and possibly TWO countries that had nothing to do with 9/11. He authorized waterboarding, braking our own laws pertaining to same. Isn’t HE therefore a “terrorist”?

    As a practical matter, if Beck were anywhere close to correct about the number of active terrorists we’d be toast by now. Then again, the Republicans took over the House, so we may be kinda crispy by January.

    “Additionally, you’re somewhat agreeing with Beck on this point. He said a percentage of Muslims fall into this group… ie: what part of the whole are “nutcases.” But as I said above, when your “nutcases” call for murder and destruction, and have actually been found responsible for that, well it become newsworthy.”

    Nope, not agreeing. He equated a percentage of alleged terrorist SYMPATHIZERS with actual terrorists, which the referenced study did not. He does that sort of thing a lot. The entire right seems to do that sort of thing a lot. Beats thinking critically, I suppose.

    Nutcases EVERYWHERE – not just in the Middle East – make such proclamations. When does rhetoric become terrorism, ImNotSolomon? Should we kill people who merely TALK in inflammatory terms?

    ” Like most of the hosts on Fakes “News,” he presents his “opinions” as FACTS…’

    Wow, “Fakes” news… very clever. Of course, why would you put “News” in quotes, but not “Fakes?” Seems like you’d only need one, not both. But whatever, that’s the least of our troubles.”

    No, it’s YOUR trouble because you blindly believe them despite proven facts that are often to the contrary.

    It’s “News” in name only . . . but it’s genuinely Fake.

    “Anyway… no he doesn’t.”

    Incorrect. As I noted above, he made a false equivalency between sympathizers and actual terrorists.

    ” Just because seven percent of Muslims allegedly think the attack was justified doesn’t mean those same people would’ve grabbed a box cutter and hopped on one of the planes…

    So? You’re limiting your definition of “terrorist” so you can warp your point. Fact is, supporting and funding terrorism, makes you a terrorist. So the people who say, “Right on,” embolden those who go out and get their hands dirty. Without them, the hijackers wouldn’t have had the resources or the ability to carry out their attacks.”

    You and Beck are doing the “warping” by equating sympathy with active involvement. This is inaccurate and dishonest. How many anti-abortionists helped Tiller’s killer or goaded him on? Bill O’Reilly all but called for Tiller’s death. So did Pat Robertson, If I recall. Are Billge O and Robertson terrorists?

    You can’t have it both ways: By your definition – and Beck’s – everyone who supported Bush’s illegal wars can be classified as a terrorist. Everyone who supports anti-abortion extremists is a terrorist. Shall we line them all up against a wall? We’ll need a mighty long wall. Maybe China will sell us theirs.

    ” WRONG!!! See above.

    On this, you are correct. You are an angry-left poster who didn’t ignore that post. You’ve ignored logic and common sense in an effort to defend a bogus attack on Beck… but not that post.”

    You obtusely claim I’ve ignored logic, etc., but fail to demonstrate HOW – because you CAN’T. Another typical “neocon man” tactic: an accusation is as good as proof as far as you’re concerned. Beats thinking analytically, I suppose.

    I only get angry when someone lies to me – or distorts my words rather than perhaps USING HIS OWN occasionally (hint-hint-hint).

    “So we’re making progress, I suppose.”

    I’M making progress. You appear to be backsliding a bit.

    “Two people who write “Hippocratic.” Interesting… we should try to get Jr. and Elaine together… or maybe, they already are.”

    You either missed the “oath” reference or chose to ignore it to make a cheep implication. A wee bit pathetic.

    ” This is request #32 for proof of factual errors by MediaMatters.org. Still waiting.’

    Here’s a fun one from a few weeks ago!”

    You point us to an article on the smarmy Andrew Blightbart’s equally smarmy big government site. While the big g article makes many claims, nothing in the Media Matters article they reference was inaccurate. Close, but no cee-gar. (Well, not so close.)

    “I know I know… there’s a reason why it doesn’t count. I’ll give you time to make something up.”

    Don’t need any. It’s inaccurate. Why don’t you try READING MM articles big g takes potshots at for yourself rather than relying on their highly, er, “subjective” conclusions?

    Full disclosure: MM did make an error a while back when a pair of Beck’s stand-in schlubs on his radio show made a ham-handed attempt at “satire.” The MM guys probably mistook it for “attempted accuracy.” MM corrected their report when the error was realized, so their record remains solid.

    ” Beck calls himself a “rodeo clown” as a means of avoiding responsibility for the outrageous, corrosive and dishonest bile he spews like a busted sewer pipe.

    Out of curiosity, how is that different than what Jon Stewart does?”

    Stewart uses humor to reveal deeper truths. Beck uses lies and distortions to reveal, well, DEEPER lies and distortions.

    ” No,wait – ALAN WEST! Yikes!

    Racist.”

    Reactionary! An erroneous reactionary, at that.

    West claims to have a higher security clearance than the Prez – a ridiculous assertion that transcends race, creed . . . or your allegedly prized common sense.

    I don’t take offense to your disgusting accusation because, frankly and sadly, I don’t expect any better from you.

    ” The original intent of the 2nd amendment was to provide for a militia, a la Switzerland, not necessarily an armed citizenry. Just thought I’d mention it.”

    You said something before about stating opinions as fact, and that being a bad thing. I bring that up now because… well, you know, irony… hypocrisy… stuff you won’t quite understand I’m sure.”

    The full text of the Second amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. ”

    Which part of “a well-regulated militia” confuses you, Ms. Angle? According to radio host Thom Hartmann (.com), Jefferson envisioned a citizen militia in the Swiss mode. Hartmann has written extensively about Jefferson.

    I fully understand hypocrisy and irony. It’s demonstrated in spades by quite a few of the right-wingers here. Brag Eddie repeated the absurd claims that Obama’s Asian trip cost $200M per day – despite cautions from me and a link from the real john t that cast serious doubt on his assertions. Yet, he persisted – even after the Pentagon and other sources dismissed such claims.

    We’ve yet to hear an apology from Eddie – just insults when he’s called out on the matter.

    ” Ran out of booze? Blow? He must be on SOMETHING.

    Nope, still plenty of booze… but I don’t drink that early in the day… I guess you do. You might want to seek some help about that.”

    Wrong, yet again. Don’t care for it. I think I smelled a joint, once.

    ” King gave Willow Palin some credit, which INB turned into an “attack.’

    Seriously? You think that was King giving Willow Palin “credit?”

    In that case: You can’t possibly be dumb enough to think we’d believe that. See! I complimented you!”

    ” ImNotTrue

    Clever…”

    Naw. Too easy.

    “‘ …had no valid reply, so he distorted the original statement. Typical “neocon man” tactic.’

    “Of course, I was 100% correct, an you’re attempt to pretend that Royal wasn’t attacking (for no relevant reason) one of Ms. Palin’s children is pretty pathetic. But I know, you’ve just gotta do what you gotta do.”

    No, I don’t. I believe King’s intent was to represent Palin as a typical young person and gave her credit for the ability to perceive obviously transparent assertions. He said nothing remotely derogatory about her. YOU chose to “read in” intentions on King’s part that were not in evidence. Something you do whenever you have nothing to say . . . which seems to be what YOU gotta do.

    “Oh, Jr, Jr, Jr… how time flies when we’re having fun. Let’s do this again sometime.”

    YOU’RE having fun. It’s easy when all you do is distort other people’s words, make snarky implications and espouse conclusions without factual bases. Relying on inductive logic is no way to live, son.

    Facts matter. They sometimes take time and care to gather. Try it, sometime..

  • nrgetick

    Shit so whos taking over america already! is it Soros,the communists,mexicans or the sharia muslims? wtf fox noise?!?!? way to leave it on a cliff hanger

  • jrcmi

    breaking

  • jrcmi

    I’m sorry, but calling Jim Wallis a “militant” is really, really way out there!. Did you ever actually LISTEN to the man? Read anything he’s written? It’s fine to disagree with him, but calling him a militant is really off-base.

    nrgetick said:
    Shit so whos taking over america already! is it Soros,the communists,mexicans or the sharia muslims? wtf fox noise?!?!? way to leave it on a cliff hanger

    Sharks with frickin’ LASER BEAMS on their heads!

  • Calvin

    Stu Burguiere (Glenn Beck’s executive producer) has more to say than what Jon Bershad added:

    Stu Burguiere said:
    Dear Media: Glenn was right. You were wrong. Apologize.

    Let’s lay this out as quickly as possible. Glenn says this on the radio:

    BECK:

    What is the number of Islamic terrorists? One percent? I think it’s closer to 10 percent,

    but the rest of the PC world will tell you ‘oh no, it’s minuscule.’ Okay, well, let’s take you at your one percent.

    Look at the havoc of one percent of Muslims causing on the rest of the world!

    The typical idiotic left wing blogs go nuts. Then some not-so-typically-idiotic sources go nuts too. Eventually they figure out that this isn’t even the first time Glenn has said this!!! PANIC!!

    To show how ridiculously pathetic the hype on this manufactured nonsense is—let’s start with definitions. What is a terrorist? From dictionary.com, definition number one :

    a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.

    Okay, now what is terrorism? Would you say that “attacks on civilians in the US” is an acceptable definition? Seems reasonable in this context, doesn’t it?

    Okey dokey—here are the facts. All of this is according to a scientific poll of people in Muslim nations done by the respected group World Public Opinion. World Public Opinion.

    The lowest amount of support in the polled nations is in Azerbaijan where ONLY 4% of people approve of violence against civilians on our territory, with another 10% having “mixed feelings” about it. That number rises to 9% approval in Pakistan, with another 15% having “mixed feelings”. Do you want me to mention the Palestinian territories? Do you? 24% approval, 15% mixed feelings.

    To put it another way—someone in the Palestinian territories who is open to violence on civilians in the United States is about as easy to find as an American citizen who approves of the job performance of President Obama.

    But these numbers, ranging from 10% to 39%, are just the beginning.

  • Calvin

    » Specific support for Al Qaeda’s attacks on civilians range from “only” 9% in Morocco to 21% in Egypt.

    » Support for attacking civilians who just happen to work in Islamic countries range from 6%-30%.

    » Specific support for Osama Bin Laden? That ranges from 4% in Azerbaijan to 56% in the Palestinian territories. Include those who have mixed feelings towards the largest terrorist in American history—and you get a range of 10%-78%.

    » Let’s remove the Al Qaeda brand name, and look for support for groups in general that attack Americans. Support ranges from 25%-30%.

    » If you think killing troops that just happened to be stationed in the Gulf is terrorism—then it gets much, much worse. Support for violence ranges from 13% in Azerbaijan to a ridiculous 78% in Egypt and 87% in the Palestinian territories. That doesn’t include those who have mixed feelings about killing troops.

    Stu Burguiere said:
    Alright, now that we have the facts…let me articulate the lefts last ditch argument:

    “But those are only people who advocate terrorism! Not people who are terrorists!!”

    Stu Burguiere said:
    First, allow me to point out that your argument has now boiled down to:

    “Glenn Beck lied! He said that 10% of Muslims want to kill innocent civilians when the truth is that 10% of Muslims SUPPORT killing innocent civilians!

    Stu Burguiere said:
    Secondly, even that point is wrong. Read the definition of terrorist again:

    a person, usually a member of a group, who uses or advocates terrorism.

    “But, that’s not what Glenn meant! You’re only saying that to cover after the fact!”

    Stu Burguiere said:
    Am I? Here is the 10% statistic as laid out in 2003, in Glenn’s first New York Times bestselling book “The Real America.” (Emphasis mine.)

    –Ninety percent of Islam is peaceful.

    –Ten percent of Islam wants us dead.

    –That ten percent of the faith is composed of extreme radicals who have taken Islam through a time tunnel and twisted it into something that is ugly and barbaric.

    Stu Burguiere said:
    What is truly amazing is how completely shocking this is to most of the media. This is very basic information about the war on terror. Anyone who has ever covered a terrorism story should be intimately acquainted with these polls. To be shocked by a statement like Glenn’s, shows either a willful disregard for the information*, or a complete lack of perspective about what we’re fighting. I’m actually stunned. (*The usual suspects like the Center for American Progress are very familiar with this information and are willfully ignoring it. They act as if they’re horrified, even while using this organization and it’s polling as a source dozens of times. )

    The sad truth is that there are a lot of Muslims around the world who really don’t like us. That’s not a right wing tactic to get people riled up, it’s the truth. It’s a small percentage of a large group. Thankfully, the numbers are much, much better among American Muslims. That’s encouraging. And eventually, I believe the truth will win out among Muslims worldwide, and they will realize that we have absolutely no interest in destroying their religion.

    But, beyond all of that—say this with me. Glenn was right. You were wrong. Now, go to Twitter and apologize.

  • Calvin

    eh. Go to here and read it. Those last two comments are kind of hard on the eyes. Plus, the bold print and the italics didn’t even come out. Also the charts are right there on the page. Man, I suck at using the comment features.

  • Pablo

    Stu, as usual, has his act together. Let’s all say it together:

    Glenn was right. You were wrong.

    Expect one of two things to happen now: either Beck apologizes (which he should) or he accuses the the inevitable scandal this causes of merely being in place to shift focus away from all those Socialists. I’d give either a 50-50 shot but, then again, I’m as bad at numbers as Beck appears to be.

    Clearly, he’s much better at numbers than you are, Jon. Maybe that’s why he’s so bloody rich.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leah-Ma/1391341060 Leah Ma

    I read someplace that Beck only has a high school education and he quite obviously doesn’t read much–so where does he get his ideas from? Well, I guess he dreams them up from his very vivid over active imagination. He probably even checks beneath his bed each night to make certain there’s no ‘bogeyman’ hiding there. Seriously though, what socialists? I’m a socialist & I don’t even know of any others. That leaves me voting for democrats all the time. And every time someone calls Obama a socialist I feel so darned insulted I want to take a cookie sheet & bang them over the head with it. Well, it’s the closest thing to a weapon I have. Maybe my plastic rolling pin that I cook Christmas cookies with. Does anyone honestly think that somebody who gave in so easily on the Bush tax cuts would be a socialist. Oh, gag!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Leah-Ma/1391341060 Leah Ma

    What upsets me about Muslims isn’t the terrorists. It’s what they do to their own families and what this means to the future of the human race if they ever get in any position of control. Read up on how women and children and gays are treated in these countries. It’s very frightening stuff. I’m surprised Beck never uses any of this, but then he probably doesn’t read enough to know it’s out there. Just look up online what happens to women who are raped or gays or women who are giving birth, any aspect of a female’s life. It’s no wonder these guys have to have more than one wife. The others probably die young–for one reason or another. It doesn’t happen nearly as much in the States but it still happens some. One guy about a year ago beheaded his wife because she was divorcing him. I guess she thought she could get away with, in this country, what she never could have in her own. For anyone who believes in reincarnation; I think the worst thing is to born a muslim woman. For a large percentage of them it means living in harrowing fear every moment of their lives.

  • Calvin

    Leah Ma said:
    And every time someone calls Obama a socialist I feel so darned insulted I want to take a cookie sheet & bang them over the head with it.

    Hey, I remember you! You’re such a cute little socialist. You and your little socialist friends.
    Yep, you socialists are cute, cute, cute!

  • http://none pyrope

    writer said:
    The left seems to fear Beck more than Islamic terrorists. And with Beck, all you have to do is change the channel.

    I believe some are missing the entire point offered in the column. My understanding is that Mr. Beck was offering an “estimate” on the number of Muslims who are also terrorists outright or who are sympathetic to terrorists causes. While this is merely one man’s (perhaps somewhat qualified) opinion, I have seen NOTHING in the way of estimates from ANY other sources. The actual number of Muslims who are either terrorists outright or terrorist sympathizers might be less or it might be more–or it might be precisley 10% as Mr. Beck opines.

    Unless and until a more qualified source offers an estimate, I’m happy to consider 10% as a possibility. Maybe someone else can provide some bona fide data on this but unless one can do that, I’ll accept 10% as a starting point.

  • http://none pyrope

    Leah Ma said:
    I read someplace that Beck only has a high school education and he quite obviously doesn’t read much–so where does he get his ideas from? Well, I guess he dreams them up from his very vivid over active imagination.

    If you ever dared to watch his program you would know the answer to your question. I can see by your remarks (implying that people without a piece of paper from some college are unqualified to hold an opinion) that you must be one of the liberal elitists. While I am fortunate to hold several degrees (one at the Masters level), I am not vain enough to think that education equates to intelligence. In fact, there is NO correlation between the two.

    Historically, attaining an education equates to attaining tools that enable one’s success, but more and more a college education is less about attaining tools and more about becoming indoctrinated by the anti-American left wingers of various ilk and stripe.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Pablo says:
    “Clearly, he’s much better at numbers than you are, Jon. Maybe that’s why he’s so bloody rich.”

    Alternative theory: President Lincoln was spot on. You can fool some of the people all of the time. And those fools can make you rich.

  • Just4thefax

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Just4thefax says:“Fact: All your post are funny too.” I know from interacting with many of Beck’s flock that they’re not all as stupid as someone who does not know the difference between a fact and an opinion, but a lot of them do come off as wildly uneducated bigots like you. Just4thefax says:“Fact: You’re correct Gore would have submitted and begged for forgiveness. You Glenn want to be faggot.” Once again you prove that you don’t know the difference between a fact and an opinion AND you dropped out of school before you learned how to write a proper sentence. Oh, and you’re a reactionary, bigoted homophobe.

    Fact: It only builds up the accuracy of my facts by you posting against them! Thanks for the support drool pool!

  • CosmosDan

    jrcmi said:
    I’m sorry, but calling Jim Wallis a “militant” is really, really way out there!. Did you ever actually LISTEN to the man? Read anything he’s written? It’s fine to disagree with him, but calling him a militant is really off-base.

    Oh no it isn’t. All you have to do is use the tired and true and often abused technique of examining everything he’s ever said that’s available, pulling out the quotes that can sound the worst when taken out of context, and keep repeating them.

    I

  • brittonbrick

    Hey morons, here’s a World Public Forum poll, all of the charts start at page five. Looks like only 87% of Palestinians think it’s ok to attack US personnel who are just stationed in the Gulf, and only 55% of Moroccans feel good about groups that attack Americans. I may only have a degree from a state univeristy and went to public schools, but I’m pretty sure 55% and 87% are LARGER than 10%.

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

  • ImNotBlue

    jrcmi says:
    December 7, 2010 at 1:38 am

    Yikes… no page breaks or blockquotes! You must be awfully angry to forget to put in your formatting. Poor fella.

    You’re “not quite all there” yourself.

    An “I know you are, but what am I” response? Really? Not starting off strong, Jr.

    When people lie to me, it bothers me. You?

    Yes, I’m bothered by your lies. I think I’ve made that abundantly clear.

    You’re conflating – yet again.

    Terrorists are nutcases: rational people don’t commit irrational acts. That goes for bin Laden as much as it does for the sadsack who killed Dr. George Tiiler.

    Agreed.

    I was highlighting the craven cynicism of Fakes “NEWS’” pimping of the New Black Panthers – all six or so of them – as an imminent threat to the heartland of America . . . despite a complete lack of proof.

    Ah, well you see that’s one of those “lies you tell.” FNC didn’t promote them as a “threat to the heartland,” you’ve made that up. FNC reported that they were charged with voter intimidation, had videos of them attempting to intimidate voters, and then reported that the Justice Department, for unknown reasons, dropped the case. I know you don’t see its value (because they were supporting Democrats; and they’re a protected minority group, so unless they’re the wrong political party, you’ll defend them no matter what they do), but those of us concerned about fairness, equality, and justice do.

    Of course, the NBP story wasn’t really the focus of your comment, was it?

    You inject the word “murder” to bolster your shaky argument, seeking to incite anger rather than produce meaningful discussion.

    Really? What would you call it? People who were living at one point, and then not living shortly thereafter because of the actions of terrorists.

    Dumb.

    If we’d treated bin Laden and the others as murderers – the way Clinton did with the first WTC bombers – we could have pursued them as murderers, tried them as murderers and imprisoned or executed them as murderers.

    Just for laughs… how does one treat someone like bin Laden as a “murderer” and not a terrorist? This is something I’m sure you’ve seen somewhere else, and are repeating here… but have no idea what you’re talking about.

    Furthermore… if that were the case, and Clinton did such a great job after the first WTC attack… wouldn’t he have caught bin Laden and brought him to justice prior to 9/11?

    Instead, Bush needed a war or two so he elevated these murderers to “terrorist” status, which served only to heighten their profile in the Muslim world.

    Are you serious? He “needed a war” so he called them “terrorists?” This is the most lunatic thing you’ve said thus far! By all definitions he is a terrorist, it was an act of terrorism, and how we denote the guy has no effect or impact in any Muslim nations. I don’t know why you would imagine it would… that’s simply crazy talk.

    ONE guy – a Christian terrorist – took down the Murrah building. (Okay – one guy with some help.) What percentage of Christians are terrorists, Glenn/INT?

    I’d guess a very small percentage of Christians are terrorists… that’s why you see so few attacks, or attempted attacks by Christians across the world. Duh.

    George Bush invaded one and possibly TWO countries that had nothing to do with 9/11.

    Wow, you’re really bouncing around between topics, aren’t you. This is what happens when you put your brain on “autopilot,” and don’t really know what you’re talking about. You just start saying the same things over and over again, even though they’re completely unrelated to what we’re supposed to be talking about.

    Anyway… didn’t Obama call Afghanistan the “right war,” and the one worth fighting, and so on? Looks like you’re at odds with the Democrats in Congress (who authorized both wars, of course).

    He authorized waterboarding, braking our own laws pertaining to same. Isn’t HE therefore a “terrorist”?

    Not sure how you got to that conclusion. The Justice Department believed that waterboarding wasn’t torture, so therefore it was authorized and allowed. And it is not terrorism to interrogate war criminals captured in battle.

    As a practical matter, if Beck were anywhere close to correct about the number of active terrorists we’d be toast by now.

    Again, those aren’t his numbers… only the number he was reporting on.

    But why exactly would that lead to our decimation? How did you come to that conclusion.

    Then again, the Republicans took over the House, so we may be kinda crispy by January.

    It’s neat… Republicans take the House… and now everything that happens (negative, of course) you’ll blame on them. The Democrats took over Congress in 2006… yet, the economy, world events, gas prices, etc. were still Bush’s fault until… oh… well, they’re still his fault according to you on the angry-left. Funny how that works.

    Nope, not agreeing.

    Well, now you’re just being argumentative. Who’d a thunk it?

    He equated a percentage of alleged terrorist SYMPATHIZERS with actual terrorists, which the referenced study did not.

    Except it did… and the difference between a “terrorist” and a “terrorist sympathizer” is so minute, it is to be considered meaningless.

    He does that sort of thing a lot. The entire right seems to do that sort of thing a lot. Beats thinking critically, I suppose.

    Uh-huh… whatever you say, Jr.

    Nutcases EVERYWHERE – not just in the Middle East – make such proclamations. When does rhetoric become terrorism, ImNotSolomon? Should we kill people who merely TALK in inflammatory terms?

    Who’s talking about killing anyone? What do you think should be done with these people? Ignore them? Send them money? Give them big hugs?

    Oh, and when they celebrate terrorist attacks, and give financial or other resources to terroristic groups, they are just as bad as the terrorists carrying out the acts themselves.

    No, it’s YOUR trouble because you blindly believe them despite proven facts that are often to the contrary.

    How are “proven facts” only “often to the contrary?” That means that some of the time, you think FNC is true, despite your “proven facts.” Huh?

    Oh, and I blindly follow nothing… that’s just your assumption because I disagree with your irrational arguments. I know, I know… anyone who disagrees with you must be a terrible person… but honestly, it’s not that simply. You’re just not that great. Sorry to break it to you.

    It’s “News” in name only . . . but it’s genuinely Fake.

    You realize, that makes no sense… right?

    Incorrect. As I noted above, he made a false equivalency between sympathizers and actual terrorists.

    Well, since it’s not a false equivalency (as was proven above this post), you’re wrong again.

    You and Beck are doing the “warping” by equating sympathy with active involvement. This is inaccurate and dishonest.

    It is neither.

    How many anti-abortionists helped Tiller’s killer or goaded him on? Bill O’Reilly all but called for Tiller’s death. So did Pat Robertson, If I recall. Are Billge O and Robertson terrorists?

    Well, isn’t that what the left has been saying for months now?

    Of course, since Bill never provided Tiller’s murderer with resources, called for his death, or celebrated his murder… it’s pretty obviously different. I doubt you’ll be able to see it, but it’s right there.

    You can’t have it both ways:

    But you can? You can blame O’Reilly for Tiller’s murder, yet claim that terrorist supporters aren’t in the same league as terrorists? Yeesh… talk about the pot and the kettle.

    By your definition – and Beck’s – everyone who supported Bush’s illegal wars can be classified as a terrorist.

    Huh? Now you’re making stuff up again. Why would they be a terrorist? (Oh, and how is a war “illegal?”)

    Everyone who supports anti-abortion extremists is a terrorist.

    If by “extremists” you mean people who will blow things up, or murder others (of course, this isn’t the definition you wanted to use at the beginning of your post… but I know how things are fluid with you, changing as you need to alter points which doesn’t entirely make sense to begin with), then yes… they’re terrorists. If you’re talking about people who are trying to fight against abortion, and believe it’s bad… then no, they’re not terrorists.

    Shall we line them all up against a wall? We’ll need a mighty long wall. Maybe China will sell us theirs.

    Just like a Liberal… trying to get everything from China. Hehehe.

    You obtusely claim I’ve ignored logic, etc., but fail to demonstrate HOW – because you CAN’T.

    Except in what I’ve written. Yes, if you ignore what I’ve written, then no I haven’t demonstrated anything. But, if you read… you’ll see something different.

    Another typical “neocon man” tactic: an accusation is as good as proof as far as you’re concerned. Beats thinking analytically, I suppose.

    Uh-huh, Jr. Keep on telling yourself that… maybe the bad men will go away.

    I only get angry when someone lies to me – or distorts my words rather than perhaps USING HIS OWN occasionally (hint-hint-hint).

    “Distorts my words,” means “using my words against me, to show I don’t know what I’m talking about.” Yes, I can see why you’d be angry about that. Of course, the focus of your anger is misplaced. You should be more angry at yourself, than me.

    I’M making progress. You appear to be backsliding a bit.

    *Yawn*

    You either missed the “oath” reference or chose to ignore it to make a cheep implication. A wee bit pathetic.

    Methinks you didn’t see the original post.

    You point us to an article on the smarmy Andrew Blightbart’s equally smarmy big government site. While the big g article makes many claims, nothing in the Media Matters article they reference was inaccurate. Close, but no cee-gar. (Well, not so close.)

    As I said, it wasn’t going to be good enough. Sure, it shows that MM wasn’t telling the truth, and was trying to mislead their audience. BUT, you didn’t like the source, and you didn’t like what it was going to say, and you actively WANT to be mislead by MM, so you’ll just go with it. It’s almost like I predicted your response.

    “I know I know… there’s a reason why it doesn’t count. I’ll give you time to make something up.”

    Oh, wait… I DID predict it!

    Don’t need any. It’s inaccurate. Why don’t you try READING MM articles big g takes potshots at for yourself rather than relying on their highly, er, “subjective” conclusions?

    And you’ve done a great job showing why it’s inaccurate. Bravo.

    MM corrected their report when the error was realized, so their record remains solid.

    Someone said something interesting to me awhile ago, it went like this:

    No, it’s YOUR trouble because you blindly believe them despite proven facts that are often to the contrary.

    Oh wait… that was YOU! Funny, it seems so applicable to yourself and MM. The facts don’t interest you, you’ll excuse their “mistakes” (and outright lies) despite “proven facts.” Oh well, can’t say I didn’t try.

    Stewart uses humor to reveal deeper truths. Beck uses lies and distortions to reveal, well, DEEPER lies and distortions.

    HA! I love your double standards.

    Reactionary! An erroneous reactionary, at that.

    Hey, I’m just learning to play the left-wing game!

    West claims to have a higher security clearance than the Prez – a ridiculous assertion that transcends race, creed . . . or your allegedly prized common sense.

    I think as this President has show, when it comes to the angry-left, nothing transcends race. As I said, I’m just playing your game.

    I don’t take offense to your disgusting accusation because, frankly and sadly, I don’t expect any better from you.

    S’okay… if my intention was to make a dent into your permanently angry, yet vacuous head, I’d feel bad. But it’s not. I imagine you stomping your feet and banging your keyboard because “SOME GUY JUST DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME!” And it makes me laugh a bit. You’re just so angry, maybe a little more anger will push you over the edge into reality. But I doubt it.

    The full text of the Second amendment: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. ”

    Which part of “a well-regulated militia” confuses you, Ms. Angle? According to radio host Thom Hartmann (.com), Jefferson envisioned a citizen militia in the Swiss mode. Hartmann has written extensively about Jefferson.

    Really? You quoted a left-wing radio host as evidence? Every time I think, “you’re better than that,” you prove me wrong. Really sad, Jr.

    It’s his opinion, not a fact.

    I fully understand hypocrisy and irony.

    Clearly not.

    It’s demonstrated in spades by quite a few of the right-wingers here. Brag Eddie repeated the absurd claims that Obama’s Asian trip cost $200M per day – despite cautions from me and a link from the real john t that cast serious doubt on his assertions. Yet, he persisted – even after the Pentagon and other sources dismissed such claims.

    We’ve yet to hear an apology from Eddie – just insults when he’s called out on the matter.

    *Yawn* Who cares? And John T has been proven wrong so many times, and then denied it, even when the facts are black and white, I’m not sure he’s the guy you should be putting faith in.

    But really, who cares? To clear headed people, there are bone heads on both sides of the aisle.

    Wrong, yet again. Don’t care for it. I think I smelled a joint, once.

    Booze and pot are very different things, you realize that right… and you can’t drink a joint. Sounds like I’m taking with Michael Scott all of a sudden. How old are you, Jr.?

    Naw. Too easy.

    Translation: I got nothing.

    No, I don’t. I believe King’s intent was to represent Palin as a typical young person and gave her credit for the ability to perceive obviously transparent assertions. He said nothing remotely derogatory about her. YOU chose to “read in” intentions on King’s part that were not in evidence. Something you do whenever you have nothing to say . . . which seems to be what YOU gotta do.

    Do you get dizzy when you spin this much? Yeesh.

    YOU’RE having fun.

    And you’re not… poor fella.

    It’s easy when all you do is distort other people’s words, make snarky implications and espouse conclusions without factual bases. Relying on inductive logic is no way to live, son.

    I know, you don’t like that I disagree, and show your nonsense to be… well, nonsense. Very frustrating, I’m sure.

    Facts matter. They sometimes take time and care to gather. Try it, sometime..

    As was demonstrated above (Thom Hartmann… REALLY?!), you don’t really grasp the difference between “facts” and “opinions.” It’s tough… like 8th grade, tough… so you might not be there yet. When you get there, come back and let me know about “gathering facts.”

  • Pablo

    Leah Ma said:
    I read someplace that Beck only has a high school education and he quite obviously doesn’t read much–so where does he get his ideas from?

    I see you have no idea what you’re talking about, and that you never watch or listen to Beck.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Jon updated, “UPDATE: It looks like I was wrong in guessing that this figure was just a number Beck threw out off the top of his head. Here’s a page from his 2003 book The Real America.”

    Oh, God, yes; that’s so reliable. That’s the book where Beck first changed the quote of Jefferson that he still wrongly uses to this day.

    Jefferson’s quote from a letter to his nephew, Peter Carr: “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear.”

    Glenn Beck’s perverted version of the quote: “Question the very existence of God, for if there be a God, He must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear.”

    Beck doesn’t give homage to reason, which is why he changed the quote I suspect.

    When is Medialite going to start doing some real critical analysis of the garbage that spews from Beck’s mouth? Jon, you could start with some research to find out what a legitimate estimate is of the number of Muslims who are (potentially) terrorists to show that Beck pulled th4e 10% figure out of his ass or not.

    Beck says lots of things that are flat out bull dung. He claims that he smoked pot every day for 15 years, but his friends from his childhood years in Mt. Vernon dispute that claim.

    So many false claims, so little time.

  • http://sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/ GlennBeckReview

    Leah Ma said:
    “I read someplace that Beck only has a high school education and he quite obviously doesn’t read much–so where does he get his ideas from?”

    He took one course in college and he reads books from reactionary extremists like racist Cleon Skousen:
    http://www.sharethisurlaboutglennbeck.com/2010/06/man-who-changed-glenn-becks-life.html

    Because Skousen’s ideas were so far off the wall, when Beck repeats the nonsense from Skousen’s 5,000 Year Leap, it only seems like he hasn’t read much.

    One has to be skeptical about how much reading Beck is doing these days if he is not lying about his eyesight. He’s using an I-pad –he claims –which can enlarge the font for him. He has so much on his plate that he can’t be doing a lot of reading, not the amount a graduate student does.

  • Pablo

    GlennBeckReview said:
    Jon updated, “UPDATE: It looks like I was wrong in guessing that this figure was just a number Beck threw out off the top of his head. Here’s a page from his 2003 book The Real America.”

    Oh, God, yes; that’s so reliable. That’s the book where Beck first changed the quote of Jefferson that he still wrongly uses to this day.

    Try Jon’s new post, GBR.

    If you’ve read Burguiere’s very persuasive post, you can guess what’s coming next. Not only does he use the best tactic in a debate (hard facts from a reliable source), he also uses the second best (calling out your opponent’s only possible argument and belittling it before they can use it).

    Heh.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mo-Phine/100001687678820 Mo Phine

    If only 10% of Muslims are terrorists, why haven’t the 90% of peace loving Muslims exterminated the viral bloodthirsty terr’s from their warm n’ fuzzy peaceful cult? Seems like the majority of allegedly peaceful Muslims have something to gain from remaining smugly silent whilst their few murderous brethren brutally terrorize? Perhaps world conquest by Islam’s 21st century conquistadors? Ever wonder???

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