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Goldie Taylor Calls Out CNN’s Dana Loesch On CNN Over Urinate-Gate

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On Saturday’s CNN Newsroom, host Don Lemon spoke with political analyst Goldie Taylor about the controversy surrounding the four US Marines who videotaped themselves urinating on the corpses of alleged Taliban fighters in Afghanistan. Taylor, a former Marine, took the opportunity to call out CNN contributor Dana Loesch, calling Loesch’s remarks “disgusting,” adding “to say you would ‘drop trou’ and do the same thing, I question someone’s integrity who would say something like that.”

RELATED: Military Investigating Video That Appears To Show U.S. Marines Urinating On Corpses

Lemon opened the segment by issuing the shortest window ever to get the kids out of the room, then played the now-infamous clip (strategically blurred) of four US Marines doing a number (one) on some enemy corpses. Taylor told Lemon that the tape wasn’t representative of the Marine Corps that she belonged to, and that “When I look at that, and look at what four marines did to defame my Marine Corps, I’m disgusted.”

She went on to say that the four Marines should be court-martialed.

Lemon asked Taylor about people who defended these Marines’ actions. I’ve heard it,” Taylor said. “And I’ve heard it on this air, frankly. That is disgusting in and of itself, not as satire not as a joke but to say you would ‘drop trou’ and do the same thing, I question someone’s integrity who would say something like that. I want to know if they understand what our young men and women are up against every day. I don’t want to demonize the men and women who serve our country. I honor them, and served alongside them, and am proud of them. But when something like this happens, we have to stand up and call it for the behavior that it is.”

RELATED: Dana Loesch Endorses Taliban Desecration By Marines: ‘I’d Drop Trou And Do It Too’

The incident has stirred significant outrage, which led CNN contributor and Editor-in-Chief of Big Journalism Dana Loesch to wonder what all the fuss was about, and to opine that she would “drop trou and do it too.”

Loesch responded to criticism of her remarks by pointing out that worse things than this have been done (an odd point of agreement between Loesch and Bill Maher), and falsely claiming there wasn’t enough outrage about them. She also used the tried-and-true Limbaugh method to recast her ill-considered remarks as satire, claiming “I was using absurdity to highlight absurdity.”

It’s probably rare that you’ll see Loesch in agreement with Real Time host Bill Maher, but in addition to the “things happen in war” argument, both of them seem to think that the acceptability of pissing on a corpse is a matter of relative merit, that because the corpses in question were America’s enemies, it’s not such a big deal.

RELATED: Bill Maher Not Outraged Over Marine Urination Scandal: ‘If They Were Real Taliban… I’m Not That Upset’

I admit that the first argument has some appeal, that young men charged with killing in their country’s service, and exposed to constant peril and horror, ought to be forgiven such a lapse. While I agree with Taylor that this incident literally screams “dishonorable discharge,” there’s a good case to be made that these men have earned a measure of mercy in their sentencing.

But people like Bill Maher and Dana Loesch completely miss the point when they defend this incident based on how bad our enemies are, and how good and righteous America is. In my view, this desecration has little to do with the unceremoniously moistened corpses. As Bill Maher and The Bible point out, the dead know nothing. If they could talk, I’m sure those dead men would be less offended at the urination than at the whole being made dead thing.

Respect for the dead is for the benefit of the living, and not just for the dead’s loved ones. How we treat the dead says something about us. In doing what they did, those Marines didn’t just piss on some empty meatbags, they pissed on their own humanity.

If that video had shown America’s enemies similarly desecrating US troops, there would have been outrage, for sure, but would anyone be shocked? Do we hold the Taliban, or al Quaeda, in such esteem that this would surprise us? This incident was shocking because America is exceptional, because we don’t do things like that, and we ought to hold ourselves in higher esteem than we do our enemies.

This “things happen in war” excuse is valuable to a point of forgiveness, but using it to mitigate this incident is an insult to the many men and women who fight for our country, who witness the same horrors, yet manage to retain their humanity.

Taylor’s condemnation also highlights the tendency of armchair warriors like Loesch, Maher, and others to co-opt the sacrifices of our fighting men and women into a faux-wizened toughness, perverting and cheapening them in the process. Just because you’ve watched Platoon or The Hurt Locker a bunch of times doesn’t mean you “get it.”

Here’s the clip, from CNN:


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  • Gloves Frank Donahue

    This is really a case of young people doing what young people do : something dopey. And even dopier is recording it. Remember the horror of Al Qaeda tapes of beheadings of Daniel Pearl and others? That’s a war crime. This is just foolishness, and these guys will regret it later, if they don’t already.

    Did not know Miss Taylor was a Marine. That’s a point in her favor.

  • Anonymous

    It’s president Obama’s fault. This s his Abu Ghuraib. This is the doing of his Afghanistan escalation policy

  • Anonymous

    These death defying brave young men were only teaching the enemy a lesson in what it’s like to pick up arms against the great proud US army

  • Anonymous

    as usual, this is a terrific post. nicely done Tommy.

  • Anonymous

    In every American war there have
    been those few that will urinate on enemy corpses or degrade and abuse enemy
    detainees. War is hell, and it can bring out the worst in people. But do those
    who behave badly do so because of the stresses of combat or because of a
    propensity for such behavior before they entered the military? As a Vietnam War
    combat veteran, I can testify that both are true; but instances of the latter,
    in my opinion, outnumber the former as American men and women in uniform bring
    with them their personal moral and ethical bearings.  http://ewross.com/why_some_american_warriors_behave_badly.htm

  • Anonymous

    Respect for the dead is for the benefit of the living, and not just for the dead’s loved ones. How we treat the dead says something about us. In doing what they did, those Marines didn’t just piss on some empty meatbags, they pissed on their own humanity.

    That pretty much says it all.

  • DoNotMindMe

    The American public does not need to go out and court martial these Marines in order to make an example of them – that’s foolish.

    I’m sure that these soldiers regret their actions and especially regret putting it on film. We, as Americans, don’t need to constantly remind everyone how disrespectful, dumb, or mean this was. They’re fighting in a volatile part of the world and these brave soldiers realize that any second could be their last.
    They let testosterone and brutish behavior get the best of them – but thats what WAR does to people. If you think War is all fun and games and sunshine and rainbows, you’re fooling yourself.
    Again, should they have peed on dead bodies? No. But should we belabor the point and start a witch hunt after these 4 Marines? No. 
    Let’s forget about it and move on – these soldiers are braver than ALL of us. We have no right to judge, we just have to support them. 

  • Anonymous

     In doing what they did, those Marines didn’t just piss on some empty meatbags, they pissed on their own humanity.

    Humanity takes a holiday the first time you are shot at .

  • WiddleBabyDanielson

    Urinate-Gate together with Goldie Taylor.

    A click sites dream.

    Nice.

  • Anonymous

    Who is Goldie Taylor and why should I care?

  • Anonymous

    So it is Obama’s fault, but it is also OK? Now that there is some prime flippin’ and floppin’.

  • cabler

    CNN made a HUGE error in judgment when they hired Loesch.  Did they even bother to check her history as one of Breitbart’s co-horts?  She is utterly vile, not very bright and completely fact challenged.  It was only a matter of time before she shot off her mouth and made an idiotic comment.  Why would CNN want someone as nasty and hateful as Loesch on their roster?   I’m sure there are far more credible Tea Party representatives CNN can find, in fact, MSNBC features a few of them regularly and none of them have ever displayed the sort of ignorance and belligerence as Loesch.  She needs to be fired. 

  • Anonymous

    I’d like to know what this Taylor “marine” job was ? Getting coffee for higher ups. Because they sure don’t fight in the front lines. Just like Lynch screwing up. I have no problem with gays serving, but I wouldn’t want a woman watching my back.

  • Anonymous

    Think the English imperialist Redcoats found it fun to “just piss on some empty meatbags” say, around the corner of Bunker Hill?

  • Pablo

    She’s not a Marine. She’s professionally outraged. Different days, different topics, but the outrage remains the same.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-Valdez/1806887704 Steven Valdez

    it’s duke nukem’s fault.

  • Pablo

    Nice OUTRAGE!!!!!

  • Pablo

    While I agree with Taylor that this incident literally screams
    “dishonorable discharge,” there’s a good case to be made that these men
    have earned a measure of mercy in their sentencing.

    There’s not going to be any sentencing. They’re going to get Article 15′d and then they’ll go back to shooting Taliban, but not peeing on them.

  • SNAPTIE “Change It Back 2012 “

    The most racist person MSNBC could find to work for the NBC owned Grio .http://www.thegrio.com/

  • Anonymous

    Late on the evening of May 1, 2011, and in to the morning hours of May 2, 2011, people all over America went into the streets in spontaneous celebrations of joy, because President Obama announced that the United States Military had just killed Osama Bin Laden!  We did not give a damn what any of our enemies thought about America or had to say about America.  After almost 10 years, a small measure of justice had been handed out to the man who had orchestrated the September 11, 2001, attacks on America which had killed almost 3000 American citizens. American citizens were overjoyed and relieved that the mission had been accomplished.  Remembering how we all reacted when we heard the news (and none of us were in a zone of possible immediate death), it is easy to understand why the four Marines in the video reacted the way that they did.  It was not right.  It was not justifiable.  It was, however, understandable.Slap them on the wrists and tell them not to do it again. Then let us accomplish the mission and eliminate any and all threats to the security of the United States!

  • Anonymous

    Late on the evening of May 1, 2011, and in to the morning hours of May 2, 2011, people all over America went into the streets in spontaneous celebrations of joy, because President Obama announced that the United States Military had just killed Osama Bin Laden!  We did not give a damn what any of our enemies thought about America or had to say about America.  After almost 10 years, a small measure of justice had been handed out to the man who had orchestrated the September 11, 2001, attacks on America which had killed almost 3000 American citizens. American citizens were overjoyed and relieved that the mission had been accomplished.  Remembering how we all reacted when we heard the news (and none of us were in a zone of possible immediate death), it is easy to understand why the four Marines in the video reacted the way that they did.  It was not right.  It was not justifiable.  It was, however, understandable.Slap them on the wrists and tell them not to do it again. Then let us accomplish the mission and eliminate any and all threats to the security of the United States!

  • Anonymous

    Would you kick her out of bed?  I didn’t think so!

  • Anonymous

    Late on the evening of May 1, 2011, and in to the morning hours of May 2, 2011, people all over America went into the streets in spontaneous celebrations of joy, because President Obama announced that the United States Military had just killed Osama Bin Laden!  We did not give a damn what any of our enemies thought about America or had to say about America.  After almost 10 years, a small measure of justice had been handed out to the man who had orchestrated the September 11, 2001, attacks on America which had killed almost 3000 American citizens. American citizens were overjoyed and relieved that the mission had been accomplished.  Remembering how we all reacted when we heard the news (and none of us were in a zone of possible immediate death), it is easy to understand why the four Marines in the video reacted the way that they did.  It was not right.  It was not justifiable.  It was, however, understandable.Slap them on the wrists and tell them not to do it again. Then let us accomplish the mission and eliminate any and all threats to the security of the United States!

  • Anonymous

    Late on the evening of May 1, 2011, and in to the morning hours of May 2, 2011, people all over America went into the streets in spontaneous celebrations of joy, because President Obama announced that the United States Military had just killed Osama Bin Laden!  We did not give a damn what any of our enemies thought about America or had to say about America.  After almost 10 years, a small measure of justice had been handed out to the man who had orchestrated the September 11, 2001, attacks on America which had killed almost 3000 American citizens. American citizens were overjoyed and relieved that the mission had been accomplished.  Remembering how we all reacted when we heard the news (and none of us were in a zone of possible immediate death), it is easy to understand why the four Marines in the video reacted the way that they did.  It was not right.  It was not justifiable.  It was, however, understandable.Slap them on the wrists and tell them not to do it again. Then let us accomplish the mission and eliminate any and all threats to the security of the United States!

  • Bobby Brady

    This is the first time I’ve ever seen Goldie Taylor outrageously outraged over something that wasn’t based on skin color, and so for that reason I have to wonder just how outraged she would have been had the Marines been brothers. Probably not as much.

    If you haven’t noticed, all of the outrage is coming from the liberals in the media who just love the troops. For some reason the liberal ability to emphasize isn’t extended to the men and woman who are fighting for us, but to the terrorists who throw acid in women’s faces, rape boys, hang gays and murder innocent people.

  • Bobby Brady

    NBC owns the Grio?

  • Anonymous

    Wasn’t she the woman in the children’ story about the three bears?  Didn’t they catch her in the baby bear’s bed?  You should care, becuause we have to fight pedophiles who get into bed with under age bears!  No more Jerry Sanduskys for the bears!

  • Bobby Brady

    NBC owns the Grio?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W2KZLPW36PGWPYD2C7Z6KDEUUE RobD

    I’m not surprised you couldn’t care much because you’re an ignorant bagger. You just don’t know any better.

  • http://twitter.com/DolefulLions Doleful Lions

    Goldie Taylor-Served our country as a US Marine

    Dana Loesch-Chickenhawk

  • Anonymous

    Or a point against the Marines.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you. My sentiments exactly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W2KZLPW36PGWPYD2C7Z6KDEUUE RobD

    Ignorant bagger.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Cabler; CNN has made many mistakes, Dana Loesch is not one of them. I find her value judgement the same as mine. The other idiots at CNN, such as Piers Morgan, Fareed Zakaria, and Christine Amanpour are Euro-trash socialists who try to convince Americans that our government is broken, which it is not. Our Government works best when it is slowed down, to keep progressive ideals out of the mainstream. CNN’s ratings are in the basement because their management is stuck on the progressive narrative, and are doomed to failure like the Grey Old Lady the NY Times. New Media is where you need to get the truth and real news of the day.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Dana Loesch, TEA Party Patriot, Doleful Lions armchair commenter.

  • NDanielson

    Oh, the vicious little lapdog, Goldie Taylor, has weighed in? Is everyone waiting for the equally sanctimonious Touré to weigh in now too?  Maybe they’ll burn a flag to show their extreme displeasure?Pissing on the enemy is free speech. Maybe it says don’t get killed by the US Marines. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Anonymous

    Rob is just happy that he can enlist now that DADT has been repealed.

  • Pablo

    For some reason the liberal ability to emphasize isn’t extended to the
    men and woman who are fighting for us, but to the terrorists who throw
    acid in women’s faces, rape boys, hang gays and murder innocent people.

    Exactly the same thing as peeing on a dead guy who was trying to kill you. If you do that, you’re just like people who throw
    acid in women’s faces, rape boys, hang gays and murder innocent people.

    Or so I’ve heard.

  • Anonymous

    Exactly. This has been blown out of proportion enough already. It’s not like the Marines when around looking for innocent women and children to slaughter. This is war, and shit happens. The media needs to stop making such a big deal out of this.

  • Yakki.PsD

    Goldie Taylor served in the Marines . In public affairs . In Indiana . Commendable , yes  .
    Brave ? Hardly .

  • Pablo

    Loesch responded to criticism of her remarks by pointing out that worse things than this have been done (an odd point of agreement between Loesch and Bill Maher), and falsely claiming there wasn’t enough outrage about them.

    Oh, yes. I remember the progressive outrage at the murder and mutilation of American citizens in Fallujah. What was it Markos Zuniga said? Oh yeah:

    That said, I feel nothing over the death of merceneries. They aren’t in
    Iraq because of orders, or because they are there trying to help the
    people make Iraq a better place. They are there to wage war for profit.
    Screw them.

  • NDanielson

    What? You don’t believe Dana that she’d drop trou and piss on them too? LOL. I believe her 100%. Goldie Taylor never lost anyone in battle to the Taliban, so she is absolutely clueless as to how she’d behave, yet she pronounces herself above these men in honor? Wow. Pathetic.

  • Anonymous

    Fail to make a connection as to what you are talking about.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent post Bobby Brady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bobby Brady

    Liberal moral equivalency is a joy to behold!

  • Anonymous

    I’m not sure I understand the point of your question. Would it matter if Redcoats pissed on a few meat bags at Bunker Hill, if Japanese soldiers pitched Chinese babies with bayonets at Nanking, if insurgents hung the charred remains of American contractors from a bridge in Fallujah?

    “Under clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron” ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower

  • Anonymous

    Brilliant,  Duke!!!  Thank you!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    Conservatives are savages like the Taliban.

  • Bobby Brady

    All Goldie Taylor is doing is acting outrageously outraged in order to attack a conservative, and Tommy is piggybacking off it. It’s a very common liberal ploy.

  • Anonymous

    I hear that the Girl Scouts are looking for aggressive cookie sales gals.

  • Anonymous

    Goldie Tool.

  • Anonymous

    Yawn…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bart-Morgay/100001554351938 Bart Morgay

    Loesch is a disgusting nutjob but she is associated with Breitbart so what do you expect.

  • Anonymous

    Ah, spoken like a true racist! 

  • Anonymous

    Two wrongs don’t make a right. Epic Fail…..try again!

  • Anonymous

    We can eliminate threats without eliminating *on* them.

  • Anonymous

    CNN needs to send hateful bigot Loesch the pink slip.  KFTK (Loesch’s home station) ought to fire her too.

  • Anonymous

    Who knows……..one question though, is there any proof to show that the pee victims are talibans? 

    Just asking.

  • Anonymous

    Again…who is Dana Loesh?

  • Gregg Sanchez

    Yeah your so right    NOT    Does not matter what others do IT MATTERS WHAT WE DO.  Just like my parents taught me ( both Marines )  It’s not how we are treated it’s how we treat others. No Marine is taught that this is acceptable. The reality is this was wrong on every level. We go around braging how great this nation is, well it takes more then words it takes actions. Actions like this don’t help. Regardless if it’s war  WE DON’T DESECRATE BODIES.

  • http://www.madcharles.com/ MadCharles

    Not even Hillary should open her fat mouth and disparage the troops for this event. These mouth pieces who’ve never been there should shut up and mind there own business. Especially someone that hated the military as much as Hillary, much less all the others. Unless you were there the previous fifteen minutes go find something else to whine about. If there were five dead bodies there were probably a lot of bullets flying in the previous fifteen minutes. No doubt US troops were injured in this firefight. You clowns freaked out at 911 and you were no where near that event. You’d crap in your pants if dozens of bullets were flying your way. Lucky for you that will never happen to cowards with big mouths.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adam-Hemmer/1061080208 Adam Hemmer

    Yawn…another apologist savage.

  • Anonymous

    Did she really say this is as far from that (treating the dead with respect) as you can get?  Does she have any idea what they do with our dead?  For that matter, with our living soldiers?  With their own damn citizens? She’s a disgrace. 

  • Anonymous

    “Tommy” may not necessarily write his own headlines, but it’s interesting how anybody defending this is “defending” it, while anybody who’s critical is rightly “calling out” the defender.  Could you guys be much more obvious?

    I must say that after a day at work watching cable news and seeing how this was the worst thing that had ever happened, I was a bit surprised to get out into the real world and fine…no outrage over this.  Alot of discussion about how stupid the kids were with a camera nearby, but no outrage.  Seems indeed to be a product of television. And I work in a media newsroom full of liberals.

  • Anonymous

    Goldie is just upset because it was not the Marines who were killed, especially since they are white.

  • Bobby Brady

    So, as a non-American who hates America and who lived in a war zone…how many American soldiers have you p*ssed on?

    And why is it you hate America so much? Could it be because you hate Whites? Sure sounds like it. P*ss off.

  • Bobby Brady

    So let’s televise the hell out of it and run the country down because of it, which is what the liberals are doing.

  • Duke Chesnut

    Adam, Bart and j, comlete sentences and consise thought would serve you arguments better than name calling one liners.  Leftys always fallback on name calling when their hypocricty has been exposed. Go back to school and take journalism 101, or better yet Western Civ. since 1815. History aways repeats itself, when education fails.

  • DoNotMindMe

    There’s no proof showing that they are not Taliban.

  • Pablo

    Everyone is a racist in your demented little mind. Do you really think anyone cares when you toss that stupid slur at pretty much everyone?

  • Anonymous

    I actually don’t mind them pissing on those dead bodies if those people were indeed the Taliban. However, I question their intelligence with them doing it on tape. 

  • Pablo

    Yup. NBC News, more specifically.

  • Anonymous

    You are using the DUMB “they do worse” excuse. We are the USA and are guided by our own set of values. We are not governed by AQ’s code of conduct. That is a stupid argument. Nonetheless…they were stupid for at least doing it on tape. I know war is hell and people can do this in that kind of theater, so I’m sympathetic. It does not make it right, though.

  • http://www.madcharles.com/ MadCharles

    What are you , 3 ?

  • Linda Goodgold

    Forget left or right.   It was completely unprofessional and childish for CNN’s Dana Loesch. She’s not a talkshow host she’s supposed to be a journalist.

  • david r

    I get the idea Goldie would be willing to whiz on you for badmouthing Obama.

  • Anonymous

    You and your right-wing pals are not = “everyone” on this site.

  • Anonymous

    In the ongoing brutalization of the American public, one would have expected pundits like O’Reilly, Hannity, Bolling, etc to say something as stupid and irresponsible as what Loesch said. Add to that list, of course, violence and disinformation peddlars like Limbaugh and Beck. CNN has a very spotty track record in who they allow to get n front of a camera, which explains why they are one of the weakest of the major media outlets. 

    I imagine these young men will be reprimanded by the Marines, but it’s really the politicians who have needlessly put these kids in harm’s way along with the aforementioned  media people who should be punished and ostracized. Add to that the rightwing fools and knaves on this blog who have no moral scrupples and have in their ignorance dragged our country down for many years now. All these people can do in a situation like this is say, well they do it too, and they behead people all the time

  • Anonymous

    I wouldnt be commenting on an American site frequently if I hate America, now would I?

    The only thing, I dislike about America is its politics…..America’s politics is racist, greedy and imperialist………..The American people are great……..part of my family is American.

    BTW……most Americans are cool…….you just happen to be part of the bigot minority of America.

  • Bobby Brady

    Yep, your motivation for commenting here is your hatred for Whites. It’s patently obvious. You have a huge chip on your shoulder and a giant stye in your eye.
    Still afraid to tell everyone the war zone you’re living in and which side you are fighting on.
    Somalian perhaps?

  • Bobby Brady

    He hates Whites, which is why he is part of Obama’s base and why Obama appeals to him. If Obama weren’t the President, he’d probably have alot more time to participate in that war zone of his.

  • Anonymous

    ????????

    So, it’s shoot first ask questions later? Nice to know

  • Holistic

    Lets be honest here. Who the hell ever heard of Goldie Taylor anyway. Just another liberal mouthpiece

  • Anonymous

    EPIC FAIL.

    I said that you were a racist and there is racism in America……….however, you said that I hate whites!!!!!

    You are either assuming that America = White or racist = white………………..LMAO. 

  • Anonymous

    If you want to understand why liberals are upset, it’s actually kind of nuanced. Liberals hate war, and killing, and death and injustice. We support the troops, but we don’t support the wars… so, the only way we can continue to support the troops, even though they are completing operations we don’t support, is for them to do it with digity and with the respect that should be associated with America.

    When the troops stop having morals and stop being supportable, it UPSETS LIBERALS. They WANT to support the troops… but how can they turn their back on humanity just to support America’s violence abroad? They can’t. Conservatives would. That is the difference.

  • Bobby Brady

    You know what EPIC FAIL is numb-nuts?

    It’s getting extremely agitated and revealing that you are Black; you hate America; you aren’t American; you live in a war zone, and you hold the same views about America as bigoted anti-American racist Reverend Wright.

    All of which reveal you to be a racist anti-White bigot who hates America because of your hatred for Whites, which makes you a natural Obama supporter.

  • DoNotMindMe

    Ummm no. The soldiers obviously have more secret intel then you or I do. They’re not out there shooting whoever they cross paths with. 

    They have missions and orders based on intelligence discovered by their generals and secret reports.
    It’s called Occam’s razor – you take the shortest path to the truth. We should assume that these guys are Taliban because that is who the enemy is and the soldiers / generals aren’t stupid. To suggest that the soldiers blatantly killed innocents is dumb. 

  • Anonymous

    Yes, because there isnt great evidence to show that soldiers kill a lot of innocent people and cover it up.

    Sarcasm off.

  • Anonymous

    Another day, another Goldie Taylor outrage item.  This is turning into the most predictable headline on Mediaite.  Would anyone here know or care who this woman was if her TV appearances were not featured on this site?

  • Anonymous

    lol……….guilt by association just because you think that I am an Obama/rev. Wright supporter? 

    You are the one getting extremely agitated. I am not an Obama supporter nor a Rev. Wright supporter…..keep assuming rubbish.

    As for telling people that I am black and not American, guess what? There are millions of people like me that are black and not American and will tell you to your face that America is not perfect…….get over it.

    I do not hate America. Part of my family is even American and that is why I comment in the first place, bigot.

    Keep failing

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    With all due respect, that’s a load of garbage. As a former leftist radical, some of the most hateful, judgemental, racist people I’ve known have been leftists. Your camp calls out Dana, but you give Maher a pass. You all are only doing that because you can’t stand her politics. Keith Olbermann tweeted to Dana that she’s worse than the Taliban, minimizing their brutality. Have you see the article on the death threats & nasty, hateful comments to her? Unlike you, I won’t pass judgement on these Marines. You have no idea what led up to that incident, what those Taliban did, etc. You see one small clip & get on your moral highhorse. It’s easy to be an armchair solider.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    Hateful bigot? Hmm, isn’t your comment hateful & bigoted. Just sayin.’

  • Anonymous

    I was wondering what kind of combat Goldie saw.  Mountains of  Afghanistan or mountains of paperwork.  She was a Marine and I thank her for her service, but did she fight.  Did she see her fellow Marines have their limbs blown off or killed.  Wondering……..

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    The outrage against Dana is just one more reason I’m not longer a leftist. The hypocrisy was too much to take. Generally, they point out & chastize others but then fail to see the the same thing in themselves or those in their camp. It was just too much. Rock on Dana!

  • Anonymous

    I didn’t give Maher a pass at all, I think he’s way off base as well. I don’t “pass judgement” on these Marines because they are young and all that but I disagree with people saying they shouldn’t be reprimanded. 

    Not on my high horse, just explaining to you the liberal mindset… and I’m not an armchair soldier I just don’t support what they did.. and either did the military.

  • Anonymous

    Before you email one of us, this got you banned. Buh-bye.

  • http://twitter.com/goldietaylor goldietaylor

    I NEVER weigh in on the trash that get’s posted here, but I’ll say this: I come from a multiracial family. My former husband (an incredible man) was white. I have voted republican nearly all of my adult life and ran under the GOP banner for office. I despise bigots no matter what color, religion or ideology they come from. Period. To brand me a “liberal” or “race whore” is DEAD WRONG. There is a special place in hell for people who pimp race to make a living. I am not one of them.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    I know that mindset as I used to be one. It sounds good but only if those in your camp lived up to it. Who likes war? No one hates war more than a solider because they have to fight it but realize that sometimes it’s necessary. I really wish that all human beings would drop their weapons & hold hands in unity, but then reality sets in. BTW, I’m not making excuses & perhaps you’d do well to read Rep. Allen West’s comments. Liberals say they are open minded & non-judgemental, but it’s only when people agree with them. Nothing worse than saying you are open to all but only to find out it’s a false statement. All I’m saying is do not judge them & this is something you & others should understand because it’s constantly shoved on the rest of us.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    I don’t make those kind of judgements. What upsets me is that people want to pass judgement on these Marines w/o knowing what led up to it or the circumstances. I totally agree with Rep. Allen West’s statement. I can’t speak for Dana, but I’m guessing, like me, she’s tired of the police & military bashing by the left. These are our defenders at home & around the world but can’t seem to get a break from certain segments of our population. Leftists disregard other statments made by those in their camp. Can’t have it both ways. I follow Dana on Twitter & I saw some of the nasty things people said to her. Keith Olbermann told her she’s worse than the Taliban. Who says that kind of stuff? Only a loon.

  • Anonymous

    Wow

  • Anonymous

    what a joke if only these marines had the forethought to piss on the american flag, all the liberal ilk would be talking like they deserved a medal of honor, but no, b/c they made a one second error in judgement in a life time of honorable service they get the hyperventalating from the libs. i dont’care about goldie taylor’s service but i question her honor b/c she doesn’t even consider what these young men have gone throgh , and i don’t her credentials, exactly how much combat did she see in service

  • http://newsbusters.org/ AliveStiIIKickin

    The Muslims got pissed on and Goldie got pissed off.
    She got the better of the deal……

  • Cecelia

    She “got” it enough to say precisely that if she were in the situation of these troops that she would do it too. 

    On Twitter you accused Loesch of wanting to urinate on “dead bodies” as though she cases funeral parlors, and Keith Olbermann accused her of being WORSE that the Taliban.

    You guys have certainly ginned up a lot of drama over Loesch’s comment.  She certainly set herself up as punching bag, but the rapaciousness to pummel her over this has been nothing short of shocking.

    Calm down and get some sense of perspective.

  • Anonymous

    You know that Tommy Christopher would be begging those Marines to …

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t mean you get it either Tommy. And you seemed to insinuate that you do.

  • Anonymous

    No one cares about this. It’s nice that the country is growing beyond Mediaite and cable news.

  • Yakki.PsD

    For the next 12 weeks, along with 40 other young women, I fought my way through training.  I spent my 20th birthday in boot camp.  When I finally received my work orders, I was confused.  I had no idea what a Public Affairs Broadcaster was.  When my drill instructor explained, my knees buckled under me.  I was going to be a journalist.  After graduation, I proudly slipped on my dress blues.  My next stop was the Defense Information School in Indiana, where I would be trained as both a Public Affairs Officer and a broadcast journalist.

      Her words .http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150203199724917

    Like I said , commendable . Hardly brave.

  • Anonymous

    Touché. With those words, what woman would trust YOU to watch her back?

  • Cecelia

    I don’t mean to sound superficial here, but your new short hair style is the bomb.

    It looks great!

  • Anonymous

    …in their own country. You and many others forget we are on their soul, not vice versa.
    I also don’t call peeing on the dead brave. Or honorable.

    I’m not asking for them to be harmed, etc., but actions have consequences and if the USMCConduct says this is an offense, we need to hold them accountable. Maybe they get a slap on the wrist, maybe not.

    But we should lead by example and show our foes we won’t sink to their level.

    And I hope all cheer leading these actions will remember their own words if and when images of US bodies are disrespected.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_76F7SAA3N35X4IBY5BGVQML2YM James

    Amazing how the author of this articles sizes up our military as mere killers while racial bigots like Taylor are A Ok.

  • Cecelia

    Well, I think too that if you’re going to argue that giving nod to the fact that  these troops have been under tremendous pressure is insulting to troops who haven’t behaved in such a manner, then go after the guys who DID do it.

    Accuse THEM of just generally enjoying water sports on corpses.  Accuse THEM of perverting and cheapening the true spirit of the gung-ho troop.  Go after THEM with insults and outrage, rather than a woman who was really trying to make excuses for them and to mitigate criticism toward them.

    Loesch has been an all too convenient whipping boy in some circles (excluding Taylor who has called for a court martial)

  • Anonymous

    So the Marines are pee perverts… who would have thought?

  • Anonymous

    Oh the horror! These soldiers who kill and shoot at people for their “living” got caught -or posed- while peeing on someone who was intent on killing them.. OH NO.. lets call “mizz manners” and take away their “proper ways to behave in a war zone” medals -or ribbons?
    I’m just happy no videos of the soldiers cutting off ears and fingers have surfaced. I have more than one buddy who has been in “Bush’s Shtit” who has reported about stuff going on over there that might send ALL of the “PC” crowd into hiding!
    They should not have done what they did. OK. But I’m not going to punish these guys for expressing themselves.. I dont expect 300 page books from them!

  • Jardino

    I’d like to see Dana Loesch go on Rachel Maddow’s show and talk about her golden shower fetish.

  • Pablo

    To brand me a “liberal” or “race whore” is DEAD WRONG. There is a
    special place in hell for people who pimp race to make a living.

    Yeah.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-don-lemon-and-goldie-taylor-discuss-recent-gop-controversies-over-race/

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/thegrio-coms-goldie-taylor-says-if-herman-cain-could-become-color-of-water-he-would-do-it/

    How’s the weather where you are, Goldie?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Vivlian-Wozz/100003324676254 Vivlian Wozz

    I am a 27 years old doctor,mature and beautiful. and now i am seeking a good man who can give me real love, so i got a sername Andromeda2002 on  Agedate.СòM, a nice and free place for younger women and older men,or older women and younger men, to interact with each other.Maybe you wanna check out or tell your friends.
     

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VK7U6RFTAUIPW2JR2NGPBP2IYA super

    our enemies in that area of the world never respect our fallen anyway. 

  • 19 Delta

    Let’s be clear here. Just because you’re a Marine, doesn’t automatically put you in a combated arms MOS. Do women get thrown into combat situations? Sure, but she truthfully can’t speak to the horrors of war.

    She did make a good point about there being a UCMJ. Punish these fools for their actions according to that, and only that. The Geneva Convention there to protect us…Not so fast, Ma’am. What about the countries that refuse to sign the treaty?

    Get real.

  • 19 Delta

    lolol someone called you a racist over this post.
    Is that always a liberal’s fall back plan? Just throw out the word racist and see what happens lol

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SMUGSPLRKQOJBS5T6I4S5H2YSE Andy-48

    I know how you feel. The sad part for the war in Afghanistan is that we are on their land, After 10 years you’d think that the US would learn the same thing the Soviets did and leave. This war cannot be won. We are not winning the hearts and minds of the Afghanis. The thing Americans need to learn is that while America had 9-11 all in one day perpetrated by SAUDIS. Afghanis have had to live 9-11′s every day we’ve been over there.

    I’d like to ask Americans just what they’d do of the Chinese Military invaded America…Just how long would they fight? As for anyone defending the desecration of a corpse.Would you feel alright if they did the same?

    As well as the enemy taking civilians to prisons overseas and keeping them for an indefinite time. The sad part is when this all started the US paid Afghanis $500 for someone to turn over others. So many times they’d go over to the next road over and nab someone and turn them in for the money, knowing that they were 100% innocent but the Americans were idiots and paying them money for innocents anyway.

  • Bobby Brady

    That sorry idiot lives in a third world country and wakes up every day realizing just how insignificant he is, and he broods over how wonderful America is compared to his sorry sh*t hole of a country. Then he comes here and lashes out at anyone who he thinks is a White person, because in his mind, there must be someone responsible for his failed existence, and like Reverend Wright, he blames White people.
    Sucks to be him.
    I’d almost feel a pang of pity for him if he wasn’t such a vindictive, hostile little pr*ck.

  • Anonymous

    Haute coutre,

    Looks great tucked fashionably, under a “Mao Cap,” with a military surplus East German Satchel and a PLO shemagh, finished off with a bullet bandolier belt….Accessorize girl!  Jack Boots are a nice after thought.  

    Purveyor of Fashion

  • Anonymous

    I believe I more than adequately covered the subject on yesterday’s thread, with a similar topic?

    However, indulge me with a succinct, recapitulation:

    Quote…

    “It is good that war is such a nasty business, or we would soon come to enjoy it”

                                     William Tecumseh Sherman

    To a 20 year old Marine who has just killed his enemy in mortal combat, urinating on the corpse, might seem completely reasonable?

    Purveyor of Rhetoric

  • barbara clemen

    Who knew you possessed  this talent, Purveyor.

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    As I wrote the comment I spoke out loud with an effeminate sashay!

    I was laughing too!

  • barbara clemen

    I have to admit, you achieved your objective…. I was instantly caught in the moment!

    LOL

  • Anonymous

    She still served…..All jobs are relevant…..

  • Anonymous

    She still served…..She did her part…..All jobs are relevant

  • Anonymous

    It says you’re an ugly American…..

  • Anonymous

    I bet Alan West is really tired, since he is a war criminal and the media, which trumpets his idiotic claims, does not refer to him as a war criminal. They should.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, you two found each other. How sweet. Does so there know you are stepping out on him, babs?

  • Anonymous

    Hey timb116, remind me not to hire you as a lawyer since you do not know who Allen West is or how to spell his name.
    West was convicted of a crime? No, he was not Court Martialed, he was issued Non-Judicial Punishment. As a lawyer you should understand the difference as the UCMJ is part of Federal Law.
    Thanks for offering us more proof you are a lying DB about being a lawyer.

  • barbara clemen

    Timmuh, your so called “mind” does love to wallow in that filth between your ears, doesn’t it?

    I’ve been an admirer of Purveyor for quite some time….he unlike you, is in possession of a finely tuned intellect…..LMAO

    SoThere is another I admire, along with Todd,and Sandie.

    You can only wish to acquire half the knowledge these fine folks have at their fingertips.
    LOL

  • Anonymous

    Did so there tell you would sound less stupid if you ended each comment with an “lol”? Like, well, everything, he is wrong about that too. Just reinforces the idea that you are a brain dead, Beckian moron, who should probably not be allowed on “your new computer” outside of group sessions at the local Mental Health Center.

  • Anonymous

    Did you proof read this so it would not sound stupid? “Did so there tell you would sound less stupid if you ended each comment with an “lol”?”

    His Screen name is SoThere, you left words out of this fragment.

    Keep coming up with your idiocy moron.

  • Anonymous

    Oh, look daddy’s lil boy is here to help! How sweet

  • Anonymous

    Redcoats were imperialist invaders, Japanese were imperialist invaders, Blackwater mercenaries were imperialist invaders, hung not by “insurgents”, but by crowds of Iraqi civilians in Faluja furious at discovering them…Resistence to invasion, occupation, unjust warmaking is not reducible to “clouds of war” mindlessness, it is often patriotic, national resistence to war crimes, as the U.S. invasion of Iraq is.

  • barbara clemen

    Timmuh, you post like a vindictive child, next you’ll be on your back, kicking your heels in a tantrum.

    Stick your thumb in your mouth…or your ass for all I care.
    Give me something intellectually stimulating to work with here….instead of your constant whining.

    LMAO

  • Anonymous

    “Those Taliban”? Who says so, the dudes urinating on the corpses? What did they call the 12 Iraqi’s murdered from the American helicopter gunship in the wikileaks video, including the two year old girl in the van?

  • Anonymous

    What do you mean next, he passed that long ago.

  • Anonymous

    A quarter lying in the sunlight is as much stimulation as a Beck fan can manage. I play this game at such a high level, your monkey-esque flinging of poo is just not satisfactory. Jesus, all you do all day, old lady, is “like” comments from your posse of morons.

    The day I try to engage a person who thinks Todd “Corporal at the age of 38″ Scheller in an intellectual discussion will be the day I check in in the room at the nursing home next to you and Todd’s daddy.

    Do you even know what the subject of this thread is supposed to be? Hint: it ain’t fluffing purveyor

  • barbara clemen

    Tinbrain, my use of LOL is my expression To your idiocy.

    I may not possess all the skills of say, Todd, SoThere, on this new Laptop…but at at least I’m in full control of my mind. Something you can not claim.

    For every time you post you expose the waste land between your ears.

  • Anonymous

    You play this game at such a low level you lost your testicles when it came to playing it with me. Come one grow another pair. So I can send you away crying again.

  • Anonymous

    If you don’t “possess” the skills of either pater familis or his retarded son, one wonders how you avoid forgetting to breathe.

    Babs, for giggles, when trying to convince yourself that your redneck posse is bright, just remember trolling websites to post inanities (at Alternet, thy call it “The Scheller”) is a sign of being an asshole, not an intellect. Now, toddle off to bed, ya old bag, before you hurt yourself

  • barbara clemen

    He does do one thing well though, Todd. He always strives for a new low.
    He really thinks he has a high IQ, huh? I’ve never witnessed a more juvenile use of language skills, than with Tinbrain here.

  • Anonymous

    That’s because Loesch is evil

  • Anonymous

    Pablo, lover of race baiting and probable subscriber to Ron Paul newsletter c. 1990, dares to criticize a media figure over race. The irony is delicious

  • barbara clemen

    Again, you were the one who felt the need to sink to childish
    name calling, Tinbrain.
    I did not start this line of nastiness, You did. Apparently you are the one who feels threatened, not I.

    You haven’t a clue who I am, what I look like, so why feel the need to direct your comments away from the matters at hand? I feel no need to justify my looks to you or any of your ilk.
    For I am secure in knowing my self worth. You can not say the same.
    FYI, I am not old, I am not wrinkled, and am certainly nowhere near nursing home age.
    I, unlike you, have a sense of humor, and recognized Purveyors.

  • barbara clemen

    And you think this raises my opinion of your intellectual skills?
    You post like a childish bully, Tinbrain. If all you do is parrot the same vitriolic inanities contained within limited sites, how do you propose to grow as a matter of course to adulthood? You are living proof-you cannot.

  • Anonymous

    Thus why I tend to bring facts along to support my assertions. It is timb116 that trolls not I.

    Grow a set of testicles.

  • http://www.google.com Doodaddio

    Direct HIT!

    BA-BLAM!

  • barbara clemen

    Thank you, Dood.
    I am tired, otherwise I’d of gave him a tongue lashing, I was being nice.

  • Anonymous

    Hello TIMB116,

    “Hovering like a fly

    Waiting for the windshield on the freeway…”

  • barbara clemen

    LMFAO!!!!! Hi Purveyor! hehehehe

  • barbara clemen

    His new name is TINBRAIN

  • Anonymous

    So…..you admit you have no idea what the thread is about.

    Babs, look up the meaning of the word “troll.”. Once you have, you’ll know what you and the posse of morons is up to.

    Oh, and dude-addio, I wondered when that sock puppeted name would be brought out again.

  • Pablo

    You’ve got quite an imagination, Timmah!, but the next time you make sense will be the first time you make sense.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    Easy to judge that incident & this, when you are watching a video. You have no idea what led up to that incident wikileakes). It’s almost pointless to debate someone with your logic. I have no idea what kind of character those Marines have. All I’m saying is to not judge them from the video…we have no idea what led up to that.

  • Anonymous

    As much sense as your assertion that anyone who mentions Republicans and their problems with “blah” people is a race pimp?

    PS Where are we on the path to Romney-land. When I last checked, you seemed to trending toward Paul as the last hail mary. Can we assume that the final conversion will come after South Carolina or are you holding out until Super Tuesday? Either way, the moderate wing of the Republican Party will save you a spot.

    I mean, unless you plan on voting for Howard Phillips or some other right wing kook party. Lemme know, okay?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_I54KYG7W4S7SHYPCGVMEWJ2W64 Daisy

    Have you ever served? I suppose your the type that also judges our law enforcement & bashes them every chance you get.

  • Anonymous

    Thank You Goldie Taylor for calling out SOBs Teabagger Dana and Bill Maher. Perhaps Teabagger Dana and Maher can get a two for one deal on participating in a golden shower. I gladly love to arrange for that! Middle finger shout out I give in advance to the SOBs who respond to me with their BS! WOO HOO!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mark-Danley/1191780799 Mark Danley

    It is sad to see that so many people think that it is appropriate to desecrate the corpses of an enemy.  This was the attitude of Vlad Tapesh (Dracula) who used to impale his enemies on large stakes as a warning to potential invaders.  People who actually think in the big picture, however, would see that this only angers the enemy more, driving them into a greater frenzy to cause harm.  The actions of the peeing Marines, though understandable from an emotional point of view, is unacceptable as it puts more of them in danger.  People who complain about the media coverage should keep in mind that it was the foolish recording of the event as a moment of pride that caused the outrage.  The Marines who engaged in this stupid behavior should be punished to demonstrate that Americans believe in justice for all, not just ourselves.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_XYC54CZJ7TUENGQBUJYJSLNXIA Kerry

    Goldie is a Marine.  

  • Anonymous

    Just to opine… pissing on dead people is wrong, especially the bodies of
    those faced in battle & makes us and our military look bad. Puts
    shame on the men and women who have died to preserve the American way,
    and makes the American way look like the way of a bunch of immature
    punks. And you’re putting our forces in harms way. You obviously have no respect for yourselves or our troops that do their best to uphold the ideals of the US constitution and America as a
    whole. I mean seriously how can you condone this, and then beg your masters for security, to assuage your many many fears (get some backbone chicken little). And then have the audacity to rely upon our troops to fight for you, when you are clueless of how to support them. Not to
    mention you’re probably the last person to sign up to fight for yourself, the poor victim.

    If you think it’s cool like Dana Loesch, well i must say you are a sad case of hate, and i feel sorry if you have children cause i can only imagine what they will grow into via
    your stellar example….sheesh! Have you ever heard of being better than those
    that you condemn? I mean, Otherwise you just condemn yourself by
    default.

    If you have ever been to war you would realize that
    these are the things that degrade our troops security by losing the
    hearts and minds of those we are trying to gain support from. Taking a
    life is one of the hardest things you could ever imagine doing (at least
    it was for me & hope it is for you), and it stays with you forever.
    The only solace our troops have is that we did it for the right reason,
    at least that is the only relief i have found, although the more you
    realize the imperialistic motivation behind it you find yourself feeling
    misguided and naive to the truth. And too often this type of thing
    makes you feel as if, yes you are wrong, and yes you have killed people
    for the wrong reasons. That really sucks for every troop out there who
    is trying to reconcile their time at war with themselves, and the world
    around them. We are better than this people!

    And by better than this i mean just that. If you want security, if you want a volunteer
    military, that will defend you, cause you are too afraid or unable to do
    so yourself, then you better have some worthy ideals worth fighting
    for. Or you will find yourself in a country where the majority of good
    people (the ones that currently make up our armed forces) do not believe
    enough in your cause to sign up and fight for you. And all i gotta say
    is welcome to the draft… I know if this was the vision of the majority
    of the military when i signed up, I never would have, and would not be
    an inkling as proud to be an American as I currently am!

  • Anonymous

    how much did you see?

  • Anonymous

    And really we would agree with pissing on the flag, the outrage is an attempt to honor the flag and the many men and women who have died protecting it and it’s ideals, you sir are trippin…

  • Anonymous

    Wondering if you have ever seen service at all?

  • Anonymous

    And from where have you served, and in what capacity?

  • Anonymous

    “HONOR” is a Primary Principle and prime virtue, is the feeling and
    the expression of admiration, respect, or esteem accorded to another as a
    right or as due. Honor refers to virtue, purity, a keen sense of
    ethical conduct, and integrity. We honor God as Personality, but are
    loyal to God as Principle. A Master learns Honor, and polishing ethics
    and morals. “Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God” sets
    the keynote of Honor to God above all things. Honour (or honor)
    comprises the reputation, self-perception or moral identity of an
    individual or of a group.

    Be not ashamed of thy virtues; honor’s a good brooch to wear in a man’s hat at all times

  • Anonymous

    And have you had the bravery to take an oath to give your life for another….didn’t think so…. armchair warrior!

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps my comment was stated in a way that was taken for sarcasm, I did not intend sarcasm.  I haven’t fought for my country nor have I taken an oath and you are right I am ignorant of war, but I do mean it when I thank her for her service and I thank God there are folks like her who are willing to put their life on the line for unknown people like me.  I truly have respect and love, yes love for those who voluntarily do this for my country, my Dad was one of those folks. I know what my Dad saw and know it can change people.  I also believe as a citizen I am entitled to wonder about someones frame of reference who unlike me has a bully pulpit and can say what they want unchallenged by me. She is a member of the media as well as a former Marine consequently her experience shapes her opinions, as with anyone. I want to understand what she experienced in comparison to them.  Granted I know nothing of war and realize my voice is small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things but I still wonder. One more thing, I NEVER said what these young Marines did was right. In fact I believe what they did was wrong.  Anyway…thank you for your service and I mean that.  One more thing, please don’t call me a nimrod or stupid…you know nothing about me.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps my comment was stated in a way that was taken for sarcasm, I did not intend sarcasm.  I haven’t fought for my country nor have I taken an oath and you are right I am ignorant of war, but I do mean it when I thank her for her service and I thank God there are folks like her who are willing to put their life on the line for unknown people like me.  I truly have respect and love, yes love for those who voluntarily do this for my country, my Dad was one of those folks. I know what my Dad saw and know it can change people.  I also believe as a citizen I am entitled to wonder about someones frame of reference who unlike me has a bully pulpit and can say what they want unchallenged by me. She is a member of the media as well as a former Marine consequently her experience shapes her opinions, as with anyone. I want to understand what she experienced in comparison to them.  Granted I know nothing of war and realize my voice is small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things but I still wonder. One more thing, I NEVER said what these young Marines did was right. In fact I believe what they did was wrong.  Anyway…thank you for your service and I mean that.  One more thing, please don’t call me a nimrod or stupid…you know nothing about me.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps my comment was stated in a way that was taken for sarcasm, I did not intend sarcasm.  I haven’t fought for my country nor have I taken an oath and you are right I am ignorant of war, but I do mean it when I thank her for her service and I thank God there are folks like her who are willing to put their life on the line for unknown people like me.  I truly have respect and love, yes love for those who voluntarily do this for my country, my Dad was one of those folks. I know what my Dad saw and know it can change people.  I also believe as a citizen I am entitled to wonder about someones frame of reference who unlike me has a bully pulpit and can say what they want unchallenged by me. She is a member of the media as well as a former Marine consequently her experience shapes her opinions, as with anyone. I want to understand what she experienced in comparison to them.  Granted I know nothing of war and realize my voice is small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things but I still wonder. One more thing, I NEVER said what these young Marines did was right. In fact I believe what they did was wrong.  Anyway…thank you for your service and I mean that.  One more thing, please don’t call me a nimrod or stupid…you know nothing about me.

  • Anonymous

    Perhaps my comment was stated in a way that was taken for sarcasm, I did not intend sarcasm.  I haven’t fought for my country nor have I taken an oath and you are right I am ignorant of war, but I do mean it when I thank her for her service and I thank God there are folks like her who are willing to put their life on the line for unknown people like me.  I truly have respect and love, yes love for those who voluntarily do this for my country, my Dad was one of those folks. I know what my Dad saw and know it can change people.  I also believe as a citizen I am entitled to wonder about someones frame of reference who unlike me has a bully pulpit and can say what they want unchallenged by me. She is a member of the media as well as a former Marine consequently her experience shapes her opinions, as with anyone. I want to understand what she experienced in comparison to them.  Granted I know nothing of war and realize my voice is small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things but I still wonder. One more thing, I NEVER said what these young Marines did was right. In fact I believe what they did was wrong.  Anyway…thank you for your service and I mean that.  One more thing, please don’t call me a nimrod or stupid…you know nothing about me.

  • Anonymous

    Then i apologize for misinterpreting your post. And I do apologize for the use of insults, I was just so disgusted with some of the posts on here, which is no excuse for being immature in my response. My only point is whether you end up a cook or a soldier on the front lines, it is all as one, that’s how it works as one big machine. Whether one has seen actual combat, or not we all have friends that have been as you described, we booted with them, we fought next to them, we supported them, and yes we all know the empty feeling of losing a fellow soldier, there is not a single member of the military who has not. And yes she is in the media and did serve, but truth to be told, she is outing someone who has done a disservice to her fellow soldiers, and America as a whole. And the attacks she has been receiving on here are unwarranted. And to be honest rereading you’re post i do find it hard to see you as meaning anything but to detract from her legitimacy to have an opinion of such. There isn’t a member of the military that i know that think that these soldiers shouldn’t be punished. They know full well what they have done, and that their actions are not in anyway representative of what it is to be a United States Marine. And you can believe when their friends are “dismembered and….” that it is not lost on them, how things such as this increase that risk. I am glad that she said what she said, even had she not served, as a proud American should, and the fact she has a podium for it is all the better. Is it not a better statement to the world that we do not condone this behavior, as we would not wish this upon our own troops. By not showing outrage in unison, i fear we are viewed as condoning the same treatment of our troops, and that is treasonous. I guess i just don’t understand your post if not to detract. Regardless like i said earlier, i apologize for any misunderstanding. And commend your father for his service, a man I’m sure understands honor, and the reasons to honor ones enemy, as a way of honoring themselves their families, and their country. Peace be with you

  • Anonymous

    First, sorry about all the repeat posts…I think I am a bit technologically challenged.  Just want you to know I believe she has a legitimate opinion. Everyone who post comments are, I believe, commenting from their frame of reference….hence, if one has never been in combat and have no understanding of it or what it is to serve are gonna look at the whole incident differently than someone like you who knows the reality of being a member of a branch of the service.  I think it is the tendency to want to defend anything American, these guys are our countrymen and we want to think the best of them.  So we get defensive and attach Goldie even when she is in the right to call out the Marines for what they did. And because of her service and their service (however flawed it is) the folks on this forum have every right to criticize because they feel like they are defending young guys who voluntarily put themselves in harms way to protect this right.  I may be repeating myself. I haven’t read any of the other comments relating to this story so I don’t know how vicious they are but I do know folks can be very mean.  I believe my Dad would say these guys were wrong and condemn their actions but he would also have felt bad for those “boys” as well. He treated many “boys” as he called them (he was all of 26 himself) in WWII and always got a sad, faraway look when talking about them.  Now I digress and am beginning to sound loopy.  Sorry for offending and perhaps it is best if I keep my “wonderings” to myself.  Evening

  • Anonymous

    I truly feel for this ‘supposed’ reporter Dana Loesch. You know there are three types of people today. There is the Unconsciously – Unconscious, the Unconsciously – Conscious and then the Consciously – Conscious. The most dangerous of the three that a reporter could possibly be would be of course the first one that I mentioned. The unconsciously – unconscious. Here the reporter arrogantly distributes DANGEROUS, unintelligent and almost always completely fraudulent information to a captive uninformed audience. Dangerous indeed!
    It reminds me of a Republican debate held in 2008 when Ron Paul tried to educate a stubborn, uneducated presidental hopeful, Rudy Giuliani, then mayor of New York, about the CIA supported concept of “Blowback” as the reason for the September 11 attack. Rudy clearly did not grasp how US international policy opened many windows for murderous black ops projects killing thousands of innocent civilians during the 1990′s in order to CREAT this TERRORIST force that would eventually be used/needed in a false flag operation (IE September 11) and would partly be used as justification to invade Iraq. You see humanity in general had grown in consciousness enough that all governments of the world knew that an unprovoked attack on any other country would NEVER have the support of the general people of the world. The backlash would be way too extreme for any government to withstand. The result would be that any country openly attacking another would be ostracized and isolated and eventually “dealt with” by all other countries of the world.The only way to oppenly attack another country would be to create a “false flag” situation, and to do this they would need to manufacture an enemy. Hence loop=hole infested US international policy and the creation covert hidden organizations within the industrial military complex whose sole responsibility would be the creation of an enemy (ie the Taliban) in the first place. This being done in order to be used as the excuse to proceed with the planed invasions of many oil rich middle eastern countries.
    For Dana Loesch to arrogantly and vehimously support unrination on the dead Taliban and even claiming she’d drop her drawers to do the same clearly show how very little she actually knows of what it truly going on.  She is… (sorry there are no words that accurately describe the stupidity of this woman). When I hear supposed intelligent people say they don’t negotiate with terrorist, that they won’t “talk” to them, I think they are far too afraid of what might come to public light if indeed they did open dialogue and made it public. Why else do you think Bin Laden was never brought to trial in an international court? It is because his testimony would reveal way too much information about dirty little secrets the US government would rather you didn’t know about. Dig people Dig! Reporters like Dana at least give the public the opportunity of deciding just how evolved a report should be before they are given air time.

  • Anonymous

    One more comment. Even in a “Just war!” if there is such a thing, the one thing you NEVER do is disrespect your enemy. It is foolish and shows an immature arrogance that WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU. It makes you weak and vulnerable. This video will again have blowback consequences. For instance you may have young people in Afghanistan who may have lost family members and friends to recent unintended friendly fire then seeing this video just may have pushed them in the wrong direction.

    If urinating on the dead Talibans is regular condoned activity with the ground troops just think of heinous crimes, the torture and rape, that may be going on right now that is unreported. And then we wonder why we in the West are hated and why more and more Taliban seem to be coming out of thin air. What actions are we conducting that are creating more Taliban to kill?There may be thousands of young men and women sitting on the fence undecided weather to continue to see American involvement as a good thing or not. However after seeing this juvenile and disrespectful video you may have effectively tipped the scale away from favourable American Support and created more sympathetic support for the creation of more Taliban. Would you want to see the very military force claiming to come and “save you” showing such childish and inhuman arrogance? Is this the actions of a might humanitarian military force ( an angelic force if you will) that you can be proud of? You have no idea of who these 4 Taliban freedom fighters may have been and how they came to be the Taliban seen dead here today. At one time these 4 men could have been the “undecided” as I mentioned above. You must understand that given anyones mental understanding of their local and world views, that no one does anything wrong. All people who conduct atrocities given what they understand of their situation feel they have no choice and thus believe they are doing the right thing. To stop these atrocities they need a new world view, they need dialoge. Going to war with them will not educate or change their perspective it will only reinforce the old beliefs. Catch 22.Can you all not see how this works against your own interests and our own image as to who we say we want to as a people and nation?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

     Right….because this is exactly what America needs right now after Abu Ghraib and Gitmo.

     Do some conservatives even think SECONDS beyond their lust for instant gratification, and what the geo-political implications and repercussions are for a picture of American, presumably Christian soldiers desecrating the bodies of Muslims?

    –Cobra

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Who says she’d get in bed with you in the first place?

    –Cobra

  • Anonymous

    off yourself fuckwit.

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