Interesting to see an editor-in-chief striving to be no better then the enemy.  I thought America was fighting these wars to spread what is considered better values.

Andrew Breitbart and all of his leeches, including Dana Loesch, are degenerates.

Many Neocons would like to urinate on dead combatants like those Marines.  Unfortunately they won’t have the opportunity, because that would mean they would actually have to serve in the Armed Forces.

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Can someone explain to me if there’s supposed to be a scandal that someone pees on the corpse of a Taliban fighter?” 

Be glad too.  I am an American, and as an American we stand for morals and values.  Regardless of our enemy, we should be the bigger person.  Urinating on dead enemy combatants strike as us stooping to their level.  I say us, because those soldiers represent our nation.  The point is, as Americans we are fighting for a just and noble cause right?  We’re supposed to be the bigger nation, we’re supposed to show how truth and justice and freedom are worth fighting for.  Instead we show that we can be just as ugly as the people we’re fighting.  

have the taliban and insurgents in Iraq done worse to our men and women in the armed services?  Absolutely, but there is the point.  We’re not the Taliban, we’re not insurgents, WE ARE AMERICANS.  And with that comes a certain expectation of how we carry ourselves in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness(and in war as well).

America. We are the greatest country in the world. When we kill our enemies, we urinate on their faces. Even Dana Loesch knows: if you don’t think that America is the greatest, and if you don’t think we should urinate on the faces of our dead enemies, then you’re not really an American anyways.

So Gennette is equating Taliban with Muslim. Interesting.

Have to agree with Dana on this one.

I think Dana is being intentionally inflammatory, but I have to agree with something Geraldo Rivera (liberal) said earlier today.  He basically said these are young men that have to watch their friends, perhaps best friend, get blown up, they see videos and/or reports of live american soldiers having their heads cut off – I saw one of a Russian soldier having that done by Chechnyen rebels, it was HORRIBLE, I’ll never be able to forget it.  If you monitor Liveleak you will have seen similar acts in Libya as well.  What the marines did was offensive, and wrong, but was a gentle pat on the cheek versus what the Taliban and others like them do every day.  As mild as it was, its still against military code and I expect Geneva Convention (don’t recall how they address deceased enemy) and these soldiers should be discharged, possibly dishonorably.  We need the military to conduct their investigation though, for all we know these three guys had been observed murdering children or something else horrible and doing this was a statement with a purpose.  If it was just done because they thought it’d be funny or cool they should not be allowed to wear the uniform.

So you see these soldiers as the enemy?

So are the Taliban.

It’s not something I would do.

Then again I’m not brave enough to put my life on the line every day like they do because I’m sitting here, like you, all cozy on my couch not doing anything worthwhile as I comment on some stupid blog.

In other words, I don’t really get an opinion on the matter. 

God Bless what they do for us.

Eff the Taliban. And eff those “Americans” that are so outrageously outraged over this.

As do you. Pig.

I wonder what would have given her that idea?

Does anyone know if she’s single? Asking for R. Kelly.

Conservatives have no right to complain about anything being done to our soldiers if they think like this. It was a stupid and criminal act plain and simple and the soldiers should be held accountable.

I think you’re on the wrong blog.

Obama is responsible for this. He set the tone.

This also goes to the notion that this will cause Taliban to want to attack out troops. Guess what? They already want to attack our troops. We’re at war with each other. Duh.

But we must hold Obama responsible since it happened on his watch.

I agree with her. I can’t think of a better place to take a leak. I understand the optics of it are bad in the Middle East, but to call this a war crime is outrageous. The only mistake those Marines made was allowing themselves to be filmed doing that.

Only if we can hold George Bush responsible for the multiple human rights violations that occurred on HIS watch – Abu Ghraib, etc.

That’s laughable!!

so are you.

you already did libturd.

These soldiers not only embarrassed themselves, but they embarrassed the armed forces and our country as a whole!!

I’m fairly certain that you’d be screaming bloody murder if it was the other way around.

How would Dana feel if the Taliban urinated on dead American soldiers??

She is a traitor to our country as are these soldiers. By carrying out this desecration, they have put all of their fellow Americans in danger,   Hopefully,they will be punished to the full extent of the law. A few sick soldiers put 100′s of thousands of their brothers and sisters in danger of reprisal.  The CNN jackass is just a traitor…not a journalist!

I would pay to watch then urinate on you and I have a feeling that you would pay them to urinate on you too.

Any chance to hate on the armed forces. Must feel good to hate on those that keep you safe and you don’t even have to say thank you.

It has been done to our soldiers for years.. and our diplomats think we should “turn the other cheek”. Quite frankly – I don’t blame those Marines one bit for what they did. I also don’t think that after we blow Osama’s brains out of his head for killing 3,000 of our countrymen that he should get a dignified burial at sea.

You know. that’s kind of what my first thought was. These guys are seeing and doing and experiencing things that I could never fathom. I’m cuttin ‘em a little slack on this one.

Where did he say that?

Barry has the right to express his opinions about public figures he disagrees with, but there no need for the personal attacks you leveled on him because you don’t agree with the opinions he expressed!!

What??

By carrying out this desecration, they have put all of their fellow Americans in danger”

Yeah, I’m sure the Americans had nothing to fear from the Taliban until this happened.

You find Moses’ comment insulting, but not Dana’s??

Those soldiers have undermined and reinforced every objection and stereotype that nations around the world have about America.

In most Theaters of War killing the enemy is usually enough, but our own hard fought and won moral principals in global standing has just itself been urinated on. We’re supposed to represent something better.

Dana Loesch spectacularly misses the point about those soldiers because of her rabid political views. Urinating on dead opponent isn’t necessarily the best political statement open to America  where the war is still being fought. 

The Army response is more telling, since they understand the repercussions to their personnel. The Marine Corps condemned the video with a spokesperson calling it “egregious, disgusting behavior.”

American soldiers are better than that and no one in their right mind would find their actions appropriate!!

Actually, the enemy does far worse things to our dead bodies. This is war. War is ugly and unpleasant. We should cut the heads off those Taliban and put them on sticks all over the Afghan countryside as a warning to others. It’s time to get gruesome.

Conservatives at work,surprised anyone?

I asked someone I know who just got back from fighting in Afghanistan what he thought of this. Here’s what he said:

“These insurgents would do a hell of a lot worse to the Marines while they were still alive if it were the other way around. I’m not going to worry about what a few ***** do to them once they are dead. But, incidents like this make me and every other soldier look like *****. They also stir up hatred among our enemies and help to breed new insurgents and terrorists. So while I personally don’t care if they pee on, **** on, rape or have a tea party with these dead bodies, I professionally realize that this is bad for me and every other soldier that has to go over there and fight these people.”

Thoughts?

No doubt about it — the new commenting guidelines are working well.

But you don’t find Moses’ comment insulting either do you,hypocrite?

Our soldiers would be lucky if that’s all that happened to their bodies. Our soldiers are usually beheaded by these savages. Those Marines were pissing for all of us. Kudos to them!

Because of the video, they my now start urinating on our dead soldiers… and you think that’s o.k.??

I’m sure your reply is going to be: We can urinate all over them, they deserve it.. but if they do it to our soldiers we will bomb them out of existence!!

War is not about fuzzy kittens, Flitzy.

They (the taliban) do much worse on a daily basis. Mediaite chooses not to cover it, though.

All of their leaders are excoriating these men, and they’ve served decades longer then the marines in question.  If Generals and Admirals  know what these men have done is wrong, then you should understand the outcry from most Americans.  You have already killed the enemy, pissing on their dead body does not hurt them anymore then they’ve already been hurt, they’re dead.

For someone who doesn’t have an opinion on the matter, your last sentence says otherwise!!

It was their first and last shower

If she is, I’d look for her significant other in some rehab facility somewhere.

I was being sarcastic. Sadly, I don’t think people can tell because it’s too close to what others are saying.

America has been on a downward slope since the acceptance of waterboarding torture and now we are publicly endorsing pissing on the enemy during war? We are a bunch of scumbags and I’m sick of us. It’s clear we are on the decline and we should be. America is no longer any better than other savage people and it’s pretty sad. The comments here from keyboard warriors are even more sad. I feel like I’m in another world where this stuff is acceptable to the people of America. I held us up on a much higher pedestal – no more. The fake Al-Qaeda 9/11 attack (false flag terror) killed 3,000 Americans and we are okay with resorting to savage and dishonorable behavior. The NAZI’s killed millions and we put them on trial. 

My take is this: If this tape is accurate, the people in it should be punished accordingly under UCMJ. That said, it isn’t the crime of the century. Nothing wrong with saying they were wrong, they should be punished, and everyone moves on. 

Most people believe that American values are better than the Taliban’s… it sounds like you wants us to be just like them!!

Once again the libtards side with the terrorists….and they wonder why their patriotism is constantly questioned!!!

You may want to go back and watch the hearings on Abu Ghraib again.  The Bush administration blamed the soldiers for their actions just as we’re doing now.  You honestly believe Bush was held responsible for anything?  He collapsed the economy and saddled us with 6 trillion more in debt and you think it was all Obama.  Nice try tea-turd.

If you going to piss on the bodies don’t be STUPID and record it. They deserve punishment because the video went public and they have endangered the troops and enflamed the enemy

Dominant Dana Loesch & pretty Pamela Geller both say it’s OK to pee. Ooooooh, those hotties are exciting!

The Taliban corpse whiz was a real dumb thing.  Like Lara Logan said, it will really help them recruit.  This stuff happens in war.  Of course it is wrong.  Is it worse than accidentally bombing a house and killing a woman’s entire family by mistake?  Or shooting off a missile that takes two minutes to find its target, and in the interim an innocent person walks in front of the place and is blown to smithereens?  After 9/11, we should ave gone into Afghanistan instead of Iraq.  All this relates back to that mistake.

See that’s the difference — some of us don’t give a rip about what ‘other nations around the world’ have to say about America.

Because they may burn our flag and scream ‘death to Americans’. And then in the very next breath they’ll come to us when they need humanitarian aid. Because they’re assholes and hypocrites like that.

Also, as you seem to be so very comfortable criticizing what these (real) mean have done for our country, what exactly have you done today? Burned your tongue on an espresso from Starbucks?

Aw, life’s hard for you I’m sure.

‘Once again the libtards side with the terrorists..’ Colorado_Moron

Stupidity at it’s most ignorant and vain glorious best.

or K street.

…Of course.

Congratulations…

The enemy of decency, yes. Soldiers are usually retarded dickheads who couldn’t do anything else with thier pathetic lives. They go to kill poor people to defend the interests of rich psychopath. And they don’t know it. Why are we supposed to have special respect for people whose job it is to demolish villages and kill children and old people? 

You stay classy, Dana!

It is interesting this particular worm thinks you have to be a ‘progressive’ to feel disgust at the sight of soldiers urinating on dead bodies. Conservatives have no decency? I bet most of them are repelled by this depraved act.

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I really don’t see the big deal out of all this.  They were dead.  They didn’t care about getting peed on.  What they probably did care about was getting shot in the head. 

Is it offensive and encouraging of more violence?  Yes.  But not nearly as offensive as the whole occupation and accidental killing thing. 

Our troops are trained to kill whether it be by a bullet to the head, a bomb to a house, or a knife to somebody’s chest.  The whole peeing on somebody thing seems inconsequential in comparison.

Urine Idiot… lol!!! Someone needs to piss on you. The armed forces are not keeping me safe. I do not see in the future a horde of Afghan marauders invading the US and taking over our government.

Once again the Libs side with the terrorists…..and they wonder why their patriotism is constantly questioned!!

Is that better mediaite moderator? Or is it only ok to ridicule republicans and conservatives here?

I thought you were better and more reasonable than that!!

Sometimes the truth hurts!!

Oh, please, Dana, get out your video camera and show us how you’d do it. I reserve opinion until I see a video of Dana Loesch peeing.

Once again, liberal men proving why they’re not real men. 

Sorry and you’re right, it echos some of the more extreme opinions expressed by others here!!

True dat!

I don’t think Tom Green or Leedog were suggesting any “hate” at all towards our armed forces.  There is a code of conduct that our military is supposed to follow.  This video that has been seen around the world is an embarrassment to our armed forces as well as to the United States.  Yeah we know ugly things happen in wars but that doesn’t excuse these soldiers actions nor does it excuse the lack of integrity shown by this so called journalist, Dana Loesch.

The fact that you attack Tom Green and Leedog rather than condemn the actions of these soldiers or take notice that Loesch put her foot in her mouth shows where your priorities are.  Do you assume anybody who thinks left of you “hates” our soldiers?  If so, there is some very ignorant thought processes going on there in your brain.  And before you so easily accuse others of “hating” why don’t look in the mirror sometime and point the finger at yourself?

We take the side of decency and expect more from our soldiers!!

 We have plenty of smart, articulate, hilarious and insightful conservative commentors. They don’t feel the need to call their left-leaning brethren “libtards,” etc. and, as such, don’t get their comments deleted.

Funny this – she makes a statement and askes her listeners what they think, and CNN distances themselves from her.

Dana Bash bashes republican candidate Ron Paul and CNN is silent; Soledad O’Brian conduct one of the most unprofessional interviews in thehistory of CNN andCNN is SILENT.

So if you are a conservative contributor to CNN be very very careful; but if you are a liberal anchor on CNN – have faith – bash away at anything/everything anti-Obama and CNN will give them cover.

Reasons number umpteenmillion to not watch CNN.

Any comment from Marcos ‘screw them’ (them being dead US MIL contractors) Mussolini?

THE FEW, THE PROUD…these are OUR MARINES (and these few exhibited actions that are inexcusable and unbecoming the Marine Corp). My Marine father…90 in February, would understand but NEVER agree with their poor decision. Notwithstanding that worse happens in war (obviously) they should be ‘drummed out’.

Unelected officials have taken over Washington and are orchestrating the daily news. 90% of the comments and replies you’re reading online come from an NSA software program spamming the internet. Comments are created before the stories are ever reported. The oldest, first, highest, best, and most popular rated comments are all propaganda. They are conducting Psy-ops (psychological operations) for domestic spying. They have 1000′s of handles and are determined to bury the truth and attack anyone leaking it.

They are dead, is that not enough?

Oh and PS:  I really do complement mediaite on the new standard when they edit an article, they identify that the article (contents or headline) have been changed.  This is NEW and I approve and thank Dan for bringing some level of integrity and acknowledgement when changes are made.

Mediaite is much bettern than MSNBC in this regard, given Chris Matthews overdubbing his big bad boo boo yesterday and not ever advising viewers that he made an error and it was being corrected.  Glad to see mediate stepping a little bit away from the horrific and horrendous standards of MSNBC.

The soldiers are in the land of reality. Our pols and the PC crowd live in the land of puff the magic dragon. I may not like it but I will support the Marines first. The PC s’ last.

I can’t remember what it’s called – but soldiers, rescue workers, etc. dehumanize their victims in order to deal with the horrors they are engaged in. Firefighters will make jokes at airplane crash sites. Soldiers dehumanize their enemy in order to deal with the idea of killing them (the sniper who knocked out Ventura was discussing this the other day). 

They are trained to kill, and they deal with it in different ways. How can people expect them to do their (horrific) jobs, and not disassociate from reality a bit? 

Would these men do this on the street in New York? War is hell. We don’t even know what the situation was leading up to this gun fight. 

I agree with this tweet: The American media shouldn’t be acting as Public Relations Department for the Taliban. 
https://twitter.com/#!/adamsbaldwin/status/157618… 

Many of these soldiers could be dealing with PTSD, for all we know. They are young men, and under orders, just killed a bunch of people. They have to dehumanize them, for their own sanity. And if peeing on murderous Talibani helps them deal, so they can come home and heal, then pee away. (just don’t video tape it!)

I saw a tweet earlier today, said something like: Progressives can crap on cop cars, pee on the American flag, but get outraged when Soldiers pee on dead Taliban…

It’s not about our feelings towards the Taliban, who have proven time and again to be heartless, gruesome mass murderers.  It’s about the fact that these goons just put their own brothers in combat in even greater danger than they were facing before.  I hope to God I am wrong, but in the past groups like Al Qeada and the Taliban have used instances like these to carry out coordinated attacks on other U.S. and NATO troops, kidnapping them and killing them in brutal fashion, and the video footage winds up on Islamic militant sites, YouTube, the news, etc. for all of their poor families to see.  Had these troops just done away with the bodies properly, like most any of our other dignified Marines would have done, this would have never been an issue.  Instead, these idiots decided to turn it into a joke and air it for the whole world to see. 

“Come on people, this is a war. What do people think this is?” 

Exactly Dana.  It’s war, not grounds for some fraternity hazing ritual.  Again, I hope I’m proven to be 100% wrong about retaliatory attacks.  But in the past, these Muslim extremists have specifically cited instances like Abu Graib as motivation behind such horrible things as videotaped beheadings of our men and women in the armed services. 

Thank You Mediate!! I was going to attack back after receiving personal insults but decided not to based on what you expect from the commenters here!!

Your system works!!

Wasn’t it “enough” to murder our soldiers, WITHOUT “beheading them?

“Soldiers”?  These men aren’t soldiers; they’re Marines.  Soldiers are members of the Army, just as sailors are members of the Navy.  Don’t ever call a Marine a soldier; it’s a sign of ignorance.

BIN LADEN WON

 Oh ok, so if the taliban return the favor and piss on the corpse of dead u.s soldiers, that wouldn’t be a big deal either.

I think most people in the calm, rational light of day, most Americas would agree this is wrong but the reality is that these Marines are not only confronting people who want to kill them specifically, but they are fighting EVIL people. 

The Taliban beats little girls who try to go to school or read – and that is only the tip of the iceberg.  The Taliban are barbaric (and no, urinating on a corpse does not even rate when compared to the atrocities the Taliban commit).

I find it ironic that many who condemn these Americans would be the first to say of a person who committed a crime in the US, “he’s not bad, just raised in a horrible household with terrible parents, and in poverty…we should be lenient.”

These Marines are under a great deal of stress and unless you yourself
have been in battle, I think it’s wrong to try to judge them.  If you were literally in a battle where you saw your friends killed and maimed and where someone was trying to shoot you, slit your throat, stab you with a knife in the eye or ear and scramble your brain, or shove that knife deep into your gut or groin, how would you react? 

The Marines should be brought up on charges and let the system do its work; let the proper authorities do their thing.  THAT is what separates us from our enemy…not about who acts poorly (or even evilly), but rather how we deal with those that do.

Perfection is the enemy of the good.

Operating within a very narrow prism, but that ignorance is your bliss…

On the other hand, more importantly those soldiers have stained their own uniforms. The men will find their own superiors will take a dim view, will cast the point with a serious and probably painful reprimand.

This is STUPID and she is a dumb bword.  SHE doesn’t get it.  These soldiers don’t just go to FIGHT they go as diplomatic representatives of our COUNTRY.  I don’t really give a crap how mad they are, we don’t sink to the Taliban’s level.  You are MORONS to defend these soldiers.  Not only were they nuts to piss of the dead but then they VIDEO TAPED it.  If you want OUT of the middle East you would do better to condemn this.  It is NOT a partisan issue.  It is rampant stupidity.

Who leaked this story ?

We are not fighting to spread better values.  We are fighting for retribution.  They hit us hard, and it’s costing them a lot.  It’s a message to all others who would attack us.

If we happen to spread better values, that’s just gravy.  But it certainly isn’t the reason we’re there.

“But in the past, these Muslim extremists have specifically cited
instances like Abu Graib as motivation behind such horrible things as
videotaped beheadings of our men and women in the armed services.”

Daniel Pearl would have called to refute this claim but he didn’t have a head.

This is unprecedented! Can anyone imagine the barbarity of a U.S. Marine defiling the corpse of a fallen ENEMY?

Did the Romans ravage the Carthaginians?

Did the Viet Cong or the North Koreans ever desecrate the body of those they killed?

If the Apache had ever EVER acted in this manner they would be considered barbarous to this day.

We can’t have Marine’s pissing on the enemy dead.

It’s bad because the enemy will not want to die and fall victim to these indignities.

This is just terrible. To paraphrase the left–”What would Joe Stalin do?”

..besides charge the family’s of the dead for the bullets used to kill him…

Let us not forget that Nazi SS did the same thing to Jews in the WWII camps.
Reagan placed wreaths on Nazi graves. God bless America.

We’ve been called much worse Alex…however those comments seem to remain up. Then again, no one has ever declared this to be an unbiased site.

Yes–they should be detailed to bury them before pissing on their graves.

If you are replying to Tatboy, don’t even bother. He’s on these posts all day spreading hate and starting fights. He never has anything intelligent or positive to add.

We did go into Afghanistan first.

The difference with these troops, is that they’re paid to do it. This is not the draft! .

Let me know which comments you mean (either right here or by emailing all the editors at tips (at) mediaite (dot) com) and, if they go against our commenting guidelines, we’ll happily take ‘em down. Very happily, even. We’ll cackle heartily.

I agree.
I think the army should adopt a policy that requires soldiers to take a big shit on any enemy they kill. Then we’ll post the videos on the official Army website. That way, we’ll really show the enemy who’s boss.

As much as I would like to watch Dana drop trou she needs to get her historic facts right… The Taliban didn’t attack us, Al Qaeda attacked us. 

I don’t think CNN distanced themselves.  They issues a statement saying that contributors have wide and varying opinions and not always the opinion of the CNN board’
CNN contributors are commentators who express a wide range of viewpoints—on and off of CNN—that often provoke strong agreement or disagreement. Their viewpoints are their own.  
Which is probably what we should expect as we are human and all have differing opinions.  Except for Mitt Romney- he’s definitely a robot!

Our troops are just dumb enough to sign up for the false flag war, get paid to contaminate their bodies with uranium weapons, destroying their futures in the process. They then participate in barbaric practices, like pissing on dead bodies, and film themselves for the military courts? We are in trouble if this is our defence?

Our troops are just dumb enough to sign up for the false flag war, get
paid to contaminate their bodies with uranium weapons, destroying their
futures in the process. They then participate in barbaric practices,
like pissing on dead bodies, and film themselves for the military
courts? We are in trouble if this is our defence?

Why are you flagging Johnj?  Isnt he entitled to his opinion too?

These soldiers are young and war is Hell! They dont embarrass most Americans just the ones like yourself and the ones in the media that want to hate this country and loves it when we fail!

You should be very happy though …you  have your leader in the white house now…. He even went to church with them yelling ” God Dam America” and a wife saying she has never been proud of America until her husband was elected president!

No. Operating with a view of reality.

Keep on keeping on with your words of wisdom though. Apparently you seem to think you’re a pretty big deal. 

Your words don’t keep me safe at night – the real men, these men, do. 

I realize it must be rough coming to the realization that you’re a lesser man. Good luck with that.

Guest comment already removed so I don’t know what he said (was bad enough to be banned) but Barry also made a personal attack. calling people  leeches and  degenerates is not an opinion its name calling.

Allen West on the Marines Incident: ‘Shut Your Mouth, War Is Hell’
“I have sat back and assessed the incident with the video of our Marines urinating on Taliban corpses. I do not recall any self-righteous indignation when our Delta snipers Shugart and Gordon had their bodies dragged through Mogadishu. Neither do I recall media outrage and condemnation of our Blackwater security contractors being killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.
“All these over-emotional pundits and armchair quarterbacks need to chill. Does anyone remember the two Soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division who were beheaded and gutted in Iraq?
“The Marines were wrong. Give them a maximum punishment under field grade level Article 15 (non-judicial punishment), place a General Officer level letter of reprimand in their personnel file, and have them in full dress uniform stand before their Battalion, each personally apologize to God, Country, and Corps videotaped and conclude by singing the full US Marine Corps Hymn without a teleprompter.
“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/allen-west-marines-incident-shut-your-mouth-war-hell_616699.html 

To make that kind of ignorant generalization of the role of our soldiers serves no purpose but to reinforce the stereotypical attitude that conservatives have towards liberals.  There is all kind of factors to why citizens join the military.  And yes there are bad apples who don’t belong
in the military and war does have a way of dehumanizing people but most are trying to serve honorably.  And there is some fine people that come out of the military.  Don’t blame the soldiers for the bureaucrats and military leaders decisions.

You are right – I stand corrected; CN issued a statement about her remarks.  I wonder if mediaite has reached out to CNN and questioned why their anchors are all going after the author of the book on Obama and is that message coordinated with TeamObama (my guess is it is).  Soledad’s behavior this morning was ridiculous and perhaps mediaite should reach out and see if CNN will comment on her unprofessionalism.

With all due respect, what do you know of the real world?
As a former Trooper (is and always will be), we DO protect and preserve the freedoms that we have as Americans.
Do you honestly believe that every nation in the world is like us?

Our military isn’t there only to promote our values, they are there to kill the enemy. PERIOD.

These occurrences are RARE, but it is all the fuel people like you need to burn our servicemen at the stake.

You don’t have a clue as to how the world works. As Americans, that’s how it is supposed to be. We live in a country where we, at one time, didn’t have to worry about ANYONE attacking us at home.

Typical civilian, thinking that they have real knowledge and experience.

These poor guys are going to have the book thrown at them because of idiots like you.

I ask you, Sir/Ma’am, how would you handle having an RPG launched at your, or having rounds zip passed your head?
Oh…that’s right…you don’t have the courage to be on the front lines. Leave that to the middle class Republicans. Thanks!!

There are ways … there are ways …

I think the army should adopt a policy that requires soldiers to take a
big shit on top of any enemy they kill. Then we’ll post the videos on
the official Army website. That way, we’ll really show the enemy who’s
boss. 

No 9/11 was a bunch of hillbilly dangerous rednecks that killed all those Americans.  What a Idiot! I think you should change your user name to ” I’m a Moron!

I’d bet Bill Mar would also.

Unfortunately most people don’t equate ‘real man’ masculinity with an ability to urinate, as much as you do.

Intelligence and restraint on the soldiers part was sadly lacking and they will be receiving repercussions because of it. Urinating is not the best way to bring attention to a career.

Still, as you strenuously point out, it’s was their momentary point of satisfaction.

…No doubt, it will all be worth it.

Comparing this to the Nazi SS. Really?

They were Muslim fighters, not innocent civilians.

Bend the truth much?

You DO get an opinion- and you should,  Just as Dana has hers and everyone on this site.  We are all Americans and one of the great things about that is our constitutional right to freedom speech and opinion.  Our Soldiers are our representatives across the world and through our tax dollars, also pay them for their continued and honored service.  So their actions do have an affect on us and we should have an opinion- no matter how different. 
 I may not share your opinion but I completely understand why you would feel that way.My father in law is a Ret. JAG lawyer.  He was so disgusted by the actions of these men.  He reminded me that Marines are an elite force- they learn to respect their superiors and the atrocities of war early on in training. There is no excuse for this.  He understands war, a former POW in Viet Nam- he really gets it. Bear in mind, this is probably the first time my conservative father in law and I have agreed on anything- except maybe how cute his grandchildren are- since the day we met.

Your response is actually quite hilarious, adding an extra degree of ridiculousness; not only can’t dead people refute claims, headless people can’t make phone calls.

LOL!

It totally get it. Very sophisticated.

We can argue that the Taliban have done this and the Afghanistans have done that, but consider this fact: Congress has done more to this country in a negative way then all of the terrorists combined. Even if you want to believe that a bunch of rock throwing cave dwellers were able to infiltrate our airlines, and get past the best air defense system that exists, a stretch by any imagination, then go ahead. But we’re $15 TRILLION dollars in debt as a nation, and that’s only what’s on the books. There are unfunded requirements for social security, medicare/medicaid/retirements etc. that are in the $65-110 TRILLION dollar range (they can’t even figure out the exact limit of their damages). Pissing on the dead is not a good thing, by any stretch of the imagination. But congress pisses on us every day of the year, for their own benefit, and we take it and allow them to continue. If you want to stop things like this from occurring, go after the people that are the root of the problem, not the pawns in the game.

It looks bad, no doubt. And it’s unprofessional, which is incongruent with the Corps.  But I view the last sentiment you quote in light of the first. They’d already do a hell of a lot worse, given the opportunity.

What about the notion that they will use any American or European as a scapegoat? I know this is just a notion- but it seems that the Taliban is not picky when retaliating.  Of course, I am just forming an opinion.  Do I think Americans should set an example and behave better than the enemy?  Yes, I do.  But than again, I have never been exposed to the front lines of battle as they have.  It may not be the troops they strike against,  Perhaps a plane filled with innocent travelers?  Or a random tourist in a nearby country?  Just remembering Sept 11 and the innocents who did that day. Many were not soldiers at all.

Desecrating the body in this way is not something we as Americans can get behind. But as to your statement that it does not hurt them that is not so. It would hurt us and make us angry when they do it. But it upsets them so much more than it upsets us. As a nation of varied religions most of those religions do not believe that anything done to the body prevents us from heaven. To the Muslim as I understand it makes them unclean and unacceptable to go to heaven. I sometimes think we should wrap the bodies in blankets interwoven in pig hairs or something. Suicide bombers are promised the 72 virgins. Would they be so willing if they knew we wrapped their remains in some from of pig?

Do you think urinating on the flag is better or worse than urinating on a dead human body?

And I suppose then it’ll be fine with you if/when the enemy does the same to our guys?

You must be yet another figgin atheist who would piss on a cruciix or even Jesus if you got the chance.

So, she’s into giving golden showers.

Heh, that puts things in perspective. 

Lets see if I’ve got this correct: If a Marine pees on a dead enemy, that’s unacceptable behavier. However, if the enemy kills Americans, cuts off their sex organs and shoves it down the throats of the dead Americans, burns the bodies and drags the bodies in the streets, that’s not worth mentioning in the “News?” Only in the liberal mind does this make any sense.

If Allen West is going to tell people who haven’t been shot at by the Taliban to shut up, then I will tell Allen West that if he hasn’t ever been a pregnant woman, then he should shut up about abortion.

I prefer killing them to being like them.

This act offends no one outside the institutional left. I wholeheartedly defend this action. It is wrong to urinate on a human corpse, that we can agree on. But the fact is this was a Taliban, not a human being.

And those would be?

In order for it to be a crime, a law has to be violated.  What law? 

Wasn’t laughable 7 years ago.

Calm down, Larry. And then go look up “traitor”.

Improper correlation. A dead American soldier is a human being. 

The left needs to stop identifying with the enemy. 

they always do.  As a graduate student- I was placed on a no fly list and had to sit out a holiday flight home to the U.K as I was scrutinized for 33 hours and detained first at O Hare Airport and then at Great Lakes Naval Base in Glenview, IL. 
 Not the most fun I have had.  But many equate Muslim to terrorist. Please do not make that mistake, many of us are pretty laid back and some of us ( me included) are not very good about even observing our religious ordained traditions.  I can’t help it… I LOVE BACON!!!!
As for being detained.  I was released after 33 hours with just a  ” you are free to go”.   I wonder if it was my West Yorkshire accent?

Why do liberals so easily empathize with our enemies? I know, I was laughing while I typed that.

Oh brother!! Another one.
I don’t even know where to begin with you. If you believe that we just recently began waterboarding, you’re in for a surprise. It hasn’t been until recent years that the American media has obtained such wide access to everything that actually happens.

Bottom line is this: we have entirely too much access to information that shouldn’t be involved in our lives.
There are enemies out there. If you believe everyone would just leave us alone…guess again.

Fake Al-Qaeda? ooooooh man….you’re just lost. God bless you and by the way, if you’re sick of this country, there are numerous other countries for you to choose from. Safe travels

Yeah, they do. Probably explains why you are a loner infesting the comments in aa moderately trafficked liberal political website.

Real men treat their enemies as the garbage they are. Taliban corpses are ideal urinals. You don’t have to clean them afterwards if your aim is bad.

“As for everyone else, unless you have been shot at by the Taliban, shut your mouth, war is hell.”
As I said above, the soldiers most likely don’t even see the murdering Taliban that they just killed as human. 

Do I like to see that image? No. Do I attack and turn my back on the soldiers who are risking their lives to rid the world of the Taliban, especially not even knowing the circumstances leading up to that video? No. Does it make me outraged? Nope. 

You have a poster with the name of “teatarded 2012″.  Avatar names don’t count?

Embarrassment?  Says who?  …the “News” Media?  Obama’s political machine?  Bleeding heart liberals?  Get over it and stop making this a strawman argument talking point.    

Indeed, I find them more exciting than the lame chicks infesting the left, crying over a dead terrorist being properly anointed before burial.

In fact, I find any American actually displaying outrage over this offensive. You support the home team, idiots. Always.

She’s always classy. You could learn a thing or two from her.

Have you ever served the nation? If not, then zip it.

Nope, not repelled in any way. I found it refreshing. This is what the Taliban are. Receptacles for urine. Nothing more.

We are the greatest country in the world and 99.9% of the time our military does all the correct things, this is a time when some of them failed badly.
On the flip side Dana is looking to just stay in the news because her Tea Party is failing.

Outstanding! Finally an accurate response! 
UCMJ is a must!

I just don’t like this other BS flying around about the US military because these idiots recorded themselves pissing on the enemy.

It’s wrong, we shouldn’t do it, but we shouldn’t crucify these Marines.

Looks like Dana is trying to be the best Hate-F*ck of 2012

They’ve already done worse, you ignorant tool. And it’s not the same thing. American soldiers are not the equals of enemy Taliban fighters. They are better. They are OUR soldiers. 

Tina.  CNN is a joke.   Its just bad reporting and poorly sourced.  I mean who turns to their viewers for news?  Oh, CNN.  Blech

You received an awful historical education. Americans showered Taliban soldiers in urine after death, the Nazis showered Jews with deadly Zyklon B poison when they were still alive.

How silly to not see the direct correlation!

While I will agree with you that teabaggers are morons, you are completely wrong that the armed forces do not protect you. Just their presences keeps our country from invasions by anyone with an armed force. As for Delta 19, sir, you are an idiot and if you are in the service, you are in the service for liberals as well as degenerate teabaggers. Liberal Veteran 1968-1970

If you truly mean what you said, then you’re a moron.  All of the people I served with (5 years) did it out of patriotism, and nothing more.  If you can’t understand that then you must be a liberal. There weren’t too many admitted liberals in the military.  I wonder why?  The draft should be re-instated so that you military haters will learn what the military is for, instead of just being used as a political football.

Countries fight wars for two reasons.  To aggressively take over another country or to aggressively crush those attempting to take over another country.  I for one would probably not have urinated on them, but instead opened up a can of Underwood Deviled Ham, and dumped it on their foreheads 

Nope.  Still Humans no matter how poorly they act and how much we disagree with their dogma and intent.  Its up to us as humans to act better than that.

If the body is Taliban, YES. Peeing on a flag is more offensive than peeing on a dead terrorist. What part of this mystifies the left, and why?

Someone obviously doesn’t know what they’re talking about. Why not be on the US’ side for once? Why not back up those that protect your freedom and liberties?
Why not just be THANKFUL. You speak as if these guy are going through a cake walk of an assignment. Like I’ve stated previously, get shot at and then talk to me.

I’m not sure if you’ve under a rock for the last 5 decades, but the enemy has cut our dicks off, shoved them in our mouths, pulled our guts out, used children as suicide bombers, used women for the same, dragged our naked bodies through the streets, set us on fire…do you honestly believe that we’re worried about getting PISSED on????

Here’s a fact for you. When we capture the enemy. They’re given water, food, etc…
When we’re captured, we go through all of the things I’ve listed above, but I forgot a really neat one, decapitation. AWESOME. I can’t believe I missed out on getting captured by the enemy.

Another typical civilian.

No, most Americans would not consider this wrong. Most of us don’t have a real problem with this. Only leftist media types, anti-American cowards and robotic libs spewing talking points without independent thought are taking offense.

After (Muslims) dragging the corpses of our soldiers through their streets and hanging them from a bridge for public “eye candy”……after beheading a reporter and God knows how many others…..after killing 3000 innocents on 9/11…..I say a piss bath is only the first thing I would have done.
Shoot ‘em….piss on ‘em….hang ‘em and burn ‘em.
Then go get some more.

I understand your perspective, but again people, these guys are at war. Decency, obviously, sometimes take the back seat after you’ve been shot at

They do, yeah. I (and the rest of us) find out about these names / comments as people write in about them / when I comb through threads looking for “offenders.” So there are plenty of names and comments that shouldn’t be here but are still floating around.

But, again, yes: A name like “Teatarded” is something that goes against our guidelines, for sure. You can either let any of the editors know about it or (and what I’d prefer to happen, personally) let the person know s/he is going against our guidelines and should consider changing his or her moniker before facing mass deletions.

Doing the same to ours wouldn’t have happened during Vietnam. We used to throw them out of the LBJ ‘s helicopters, alive

Good on you Dana Loesch…amazing how the bleeding hearts forget the enemy has no compunctions about beheading us so why would a little piddle be so bad?

Good teabaggers sprouting out words never said. Those soldiers were wrong, whether you like or not. It does not make them the enemy, just an international black eye. How did you feel when they hung ours from bridges?  Trying to make others the blunt of the problem for the misbehavior of those soldiers does not work.

For one thing, we’re in the Taliban’s country. WE are the terrorists there.

YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!  that’s why Col. West is a man I would follow to hell and back

This lunatic works for Breitbart so why would anyone expect anything but classless buffoonery?

They put it on youtube themselves. That’s the level of intelligence some in our military have.

How does soldiers embarrassing the US become a chance to hate on the Armed Forces. If you are such a war monger, get your ass to a war zone, there are plenty of them. Or are you a chicken hawk?

Anybody who disagrees with me hates America and wants terrorists to win. Army policy should be to shit on any enemy they kill. A few such videos on the Army website will make terrorists think twice and show the world that America kicks ass.

It damages our own cause to stoop to the level of the enemy. Pink slip time…

You’re right, but we are not there to denigrate others either. Showing no respect for other human beings is not who America is.

Shows the truth in the old adage, “It’s better to be pissed off than pissed on.”

But it was not the main focus.

You are truly a low life.

How rapes per month is a US soldier allowed to perform to deal with PTSD on the battlefield? What number is acceptable to you before you start to question it?

Baloney. Keep the excrement between your ears away from me.

Keep in mind that the US invaded their country, not the other way around.

I’d be shooting at invaders too if it happened here.

EXACTLY!
I’ve been getting flack for advocating an Army policy that requires soldiers to take a big shit on any enemy they kill, videotape it, and then post the video on the Army website. I’m glad you agree with me and LOVE AMERICA!

It is your right to feel that way.  However, insulting me for my opinion does not reflect well upon you.   Again, IMHO.

Have you seen “A Few Good Men”? West sounds EXACTLY like Colonel Jessup (Jack Nicholson) at the end while he’s trying to justify covering up a murder.

“I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it.”

I think we all have a right to question the way our freedoms are being provided. If we didn’t, and if we let our military go around unchecked in their moral and ethical behaviors, I think that would be a moral failing on our parts. While I understand that I don’t know what it’s like to be an American soldier in a war abroad, I also understand that those soldiers need to be accountable if their actions reflect poorly upon their brothers and sisters in arms, the Marine Corps, and America itself.

The actions of the Marines were wrong. Plain and simple. And all Americans, whether they’ve fought in wars, have a right to say that. They should not be told to “shut up” by their politicians for voicing their opinions. No politician should ever tell an American to “shut up” and not question the way their freedoms are provided. That’s insane. That’s totalitarianism. It’s fascism. I can’t believe you’d even suggest it as a point of argument.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo

Only idiots who have never been in a combat situation would agree with this idiot.  What this idiot doesn’t realize is when soldiers do these kind of things that are immoral in the first place they are putting our soldiers in danger over there.  I have family members who served in wars and I have talked to them about this situation and they think what these men did is immoral.   These acts are horrible.  If my husband was back on active duty (he is retired 21 yrs) I’d be worried to death about the acts these men have done.  There is no honor in what they have done and anyone who thinks it was justifiable isn’t a true patriot of this country.  Your nothing but traitors.  Traitors don’t become heroes like this that is for sure.

The issue here is purely pragmatic.  These soldiers most likely broke a code or regulation or military law – period.  The regulation is there for a reason; this kind of desecration of enemy remains only serves as a recruiting poster to any and all would be Taliban.

Morally its sort of absurd to be mad at them for urinating on persons they just killed.  I am sure the enemy would have gladly traded being urinated on and allowed to live.  We teach our combat service persons to kill, to objectify the enemy – WE do that by our own hand.

Looks like a comment that should be deleted.

So let’s do what we can to be as awful as they are?  Is that really our goal?!

I’m sorry, I missed when Afghanistan or the Taliban ”hit us hard”.  Can you please provide a link?  Last “hard hit” I recall was done by a Saudi and his non-country associated group.

I am so, so sorry you had to experience that.  

Years ago as an undergrad I met an Israeli student who had fought in the Six Day War.  Once he showed me his wartime photos.  There were several where bodies had been desecrated.  He said it bothered him at first, but later ignored it.  Perhaps strangest were the Jordanian women who were drinking wine with the Israeli soldiers and laughing in plain view of the desecrated bodies of their countrymen.   I hope that the hysteria over this cools a bit.  Thirty days in the brig and bust them a level in rank. 

 Would George Washington have approved of Continental soldiers urinating on dead British troops? Would Lincoln have approved of Union soldiers urinating on dead Confederates?  Would Eisenhower have approved of American GIs urinating on dead Germans?  I think the answers here are obvious.

Great, the “they did it first!!” two-year old excuse.  How about we prevent them from doing anything else to American soldiers by putting a few thousand miles between our troops and Afghanistan.

Let’s not forget the bodies of the rescue squad members who died in the helicopter crash in the Iranian desert during the failed attempt to rescue the embassy hostages.  The ayatollah in charge opened up their coffins and sliced off parts of their bodies to the cheers of the crowd.

 I guess Rush Limbaugh is now the “institutional left.”

Drape yourself in the flag, that’s right Tatboy.

Between this and the Ashleigh Banfield Wake Up Call, CNN is scraping toilets.

I like him.

Thanks, Lilly… it was in 2003 and truly- it has not happened since, probably due to the extensive travel my family does.   We have pretty much gotten to know all of the TSA folks at O’Hare and the security at Gatwick as well.  I was worried about this once we had children but so far, we have pretty much been left alone.  It may be due to my no longer wearing a hijab.  Either way, I appreciate your sincerity. 

Why don’t you shut up.  You are pissed at Obama because he is a better Commander-in-Chief than Bush II.  Please get over it.  Obama didn’t send troops off to war in the first place to Iraq where there was no WMD.  Bush new it.  As far as am concerned Bush/Cheney should be proscuted for killing our troops and innocent people who had nothing to do with 9-11.  You republicans need to get your bitching straight.  Your mad because he went to a church where the minister (not Obama) said damn america or are you mad because he is a muslim?  Please you guys have to get it right.  He can’t be both.  By the way I’m sick of hearing in the mindless minds of republican that only think soldiers are in the republican party.  That isn’t so at all.  In my family I have a father-in-law, husband and my father all served in the military in WWII, Korea, VN and Desert Storm and all retired with over 60 yrs serivce and all staunch democrats who served under both republican and democrat administrations.  Not one time did any of them bad mouth the commander-in-chief because they were their boss.  At home was another thing.  But never around the other soldiers.  Those kind of soldiers was makes this country great.  We all bitch but give the thanks to the millions of soldiers before and who will come after to defend this great country.  Thank a soldier for his/her service when you see one.  They deserve our thanks.  To many sit home and don’t do what they should do.

Actually, they were Contractors, not US soldiers.

How many innocents have we killed in Iraq, Yemen, Aghanistan, etc.?

But since the military itself doesn’t condone it, your POV and others is in the wrong.

So if this behavior is ok, then you didn’t get upset about U.S. bodies being dragged around re: Blackhawk down – it’s OK to do things to dead bodies – is that your position?

When these evil people’s souls are being tortured in burning red hot hell, they’re not going to care what ‘kind’ of moisture is all of a sudden abound… it’s relief liquid

In a sense, what the snipers team did was an act of compassion

Bin Laden won first place in the high dive.

 It is impossible for you to realize it but the US has no right to be invading countries and killing people. I know this is beyond your comprehension.

They shoulda been specific.  They needed a math whiz.

Stop your whining.  Fox has the political machine big time along with talk radio.  Your like the facists.  You keep repeat the same thing over and over pretty soon your believe your own shit.  There is no liberal media.  They are all owned by corporations. 

Well two of your “examples” are inanimate objects, the other was once a living, breathing, sentient being.

But if it’s no big deal, why is the military looking into it?

“Many were not soldiers at all”

But none of the hijackers were Afghani’s or Taliban.  There was one Lebanese, one Egyptian, two from the United Arab Emirati, and 15 Saudi’s, not to mention the Saudi leader.  So why are we in Afghanistan again?  Oh right, to get bin Laden…oh, wait.  And when are we going to get our revenge against Saudi Arabia? 

You zip it.  Everyone in this country has a right to bitch.  You and I may not like his opinion but that is his/her right.  I thank the soldiers of this country for helping us to maintain that right.

Of course these idots broke the law. I’t called the UCMJ. They all know it, and the know it doesn’t permit desecrating corpses. Ms Loesch needs to join Buchanan on the sidelines for an extended time out. There are no circumstances where American troops, today, can be permitted to defile the corpses of human being.

We know, as a culture, the dangers of dehumanization. We know it’s what led another group of soldiers to murder. What value does desecrating corpses represent in American culture?

We were up in arms when Iraqis hung coprses up. How dare we object to atrocities if we allow them? We’re rejoicing in death on a daily basis.

Does it matter how Americans appear to the rest of the world? We’re outraged at being attacked. What effect can we expect when our soldiesr, the people we choose to represent us abroad, do these things?

These people were no longer a danger to anyone. Most cultures would say they were in God’s hands. What does this say about Americans?

Patriotism is usually a sign of narrow-minded stupidity. The soldiers who went and killed vietnamese, Iraqis and Afghanis have done it because they are too stupid to question why they were doing it. Some just wanted a paycheck and didn’t know what else to do.

I mean everything I said. The fact that you can’t comprehend why someone may not worship hired killers of poor people is your problem, not mine.

John gammer.  Your mother sure produced idiots.  Your poor mother.

On this we agree….

By G*d these people are going to learn and “soak” in democracy, if we had to defecate on their
lifless bodies

Would they be better off dead than alive then? These snipers did the compassionate thing and slaughtered them BEFORE they violated their bodies

G*d bless these snipers. Our freedom is in good hands

You don’t think our armed forces keep you safe? Good to know…..

And wait for some idiot liberal opine:

“And what in the lord’s name kind of mountainous amount of captured Abu-Ghuraib material has the obama administration kept in the volt and refused to release in 2009? This administration is complicit and it goes to show that covering up for war crimes serves only to advance complacency towards it”

Retarded libs

Careful Dana, some of those corpses might be into that

My father is a Vietnam vet, my grandfather is a WW2 & Korea vet. I am an RN at my VA. I support our troops except in extreme cases. Pissing on dead Taliban Terrorists is not one of those cases.

If you sprinkle
when you tinkle
Be a sweetie
and wipe the seatie

Piss all over the flag, that’s right uncleduke

It’s really disgusting the low minds that operate at CNN, especially a woman, who is trying to out do the violent idiots who think pissing on the enemy is fun and justified. Yes, we all have great compassion for our soldiers especially since they are fighting and giving their lives for a useless stupid war. The dumbing down of our great country has to stop and the warmongers driven out of office. CNN will always be a second rate media organization not much better than FOX. 

Absolutely Correct Mike.  And I believe we went to war because we had a president who felt he had to finish daddys unfinished Business. However, very few Americans were aware that Saddam Hussein was just a scapegoat at that time.  No matter how repugnant we found his dictatorship to be- they never had any weapons of mass destruction- and had no part in the Sept 11 attacks.
Later we found out that Al Quaeda was responsible and then found out that GW had no idea where Bin Laden was….and didn’t care.  That was the signal that let everyone know that Iraq was fabricated enemy.
oh and as long as the Saudis sell us their oil- we will never go after them.  

Pissing on dead terrorists and being a terrorist are not equal no matter how much you try to equate them.

“Teatarded” is not even a word! How does teatarded go against the rules? Shame…..shame….shame

Wow…….conservative bias. 

Who the hell are you to judge my patriotism or make blanket statements about other people’s patriotism?

And just who were you to do the same?

Says the genius who thinks trained killers who urinate on dead bodies are heros. You admire killers because you are idiotic enough to believe they fight for your benefit. That just makes you a selfish and deluded retard. You have never questioned why you revere a stupid red neck killing a baby in Iraq, have you? 

Suggest due to the new rules you change your avatar name please.

“We’ll cackle heartily”

Love it .

I tried!  I have even written the staff to see whats next.  If there is a shortcut- I’d appreciate your instruction.

Excellent question! From our post:

“Feel like being taken seriously? Don’t make up words that end in ‘-tards.’ Not only do they lower the level of quality discussion in the
comment section, they also turn off would-be commenters and readers from
adding their own thoughts and insights.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-mediaite-commenting-guidelines/

Pansy liberals want to pass out flowers to the enemy and maybe a cupcake.
Well, pissing on dead enemies only shows how superior we are as a country.
If we’re going to bring democracy to the people of these countries, it’s important we piss on their dead and even shit on their dead. Nothing is off-limits when trying to convince an enemy of our superiority and intent. If we’d been pissing and shitting on the Nazis during WWII, that war would been over in 12 months.

Drape yourself in ironic hypocrisy 

It’s in the interest of America to have Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest of the world friendly to us help us fight the war terror.

What do you idiots want? To alienate and go to war with each and every one of the 1.6 billion Muslims who make up about 23% of the world population?

Yes.
Aspire to be just as good as the enemy.

You’re the one who questioned someone’s view of the armed forces as a whole since they critiqued this truly stupid act.

Lily, have changed it- hope this is as innocuous as I think.  
Never meant to offend anyone but realize in fact, that I was. 
Hope no harm was done and please accept my sincerest apologies.

You probably supported the Patriot Act too.

It still does not go against any rules!!!!

Wow…….just wow. Your post only says that you wont be taken seriously. Does it say you should delete the name “teatarded”?

Thanks so much, you two. I’d buy you a pizza if I could. 

As cute as I think that poem is, one would have to wonder why a man would pee with the seat down.  Unless, of course- this is in reference to the women who use public restrooms and hover about a foot from the seat.  I get that.

“Carnac the Magnificent”Tell me what I am thinking now.

I was ready to post a long tirade about this hapless comment that will no doubt contribute to some gruesome treatment of the next military person captured,  That she is so unaware of why these goofs jeopardized the safety and well being of all military men captured on a field of battle, she is truly more ignorant that she seemed before, and that is going some.  The poor thing seems so hungry for attention that she blithely puts out this disgusting statement no matter the consequences of torture and a greusome death for some our military.  SHE IS NO PATRIOT!

He didn’t condone the behavior, he’s just saying liberals are screeching and running around half naked in joy and mock-condemnation.   They literally live for these moments to trash our soliders.

Hanoi-Jane/John Kerry, Cindy Sheehan… Overtime they all slip up and prove that they really don’t care about the issue at hand, they just care about denigrating the military.

It’s war…. almost everyone that hasn’t served would crap their pants and get themselves and other killed in the first 5 minutes of actual combat… Most people subconsciously know this to be true and they project the self loathing onto the soldiers…

hey now, I thought we were not supposed to use tard in our postings.  I changed my name0 which I admit was offensive- so shouldnt we all try to be more above board?

Most that criticize these soldiers have never served!!!! And the one’s who say we should not lower ourselves to there level are stupid. They chop peoples heads off and outright murder people. It’s easy to sit in our easy chair where it is safe and drink our beer and watch the game and criticize our troops over in a kill zone watching buddies being killed and trying to survive. I would do the same thing. 

Out of curiosity, do you see Dick Cheney anywhere in your vision of hell?  Maybe he can be peed on too?

What?  you didn’t know that?  He’s basically a socialist now.  : )

Better Values?  Nonsense!  We fight wars to kill the enemy. 

nope… some parts yes… but on the whole… no

conservative women are so classy hahaha

Alex, you put bacon and pineapple on it and I am there! 
Trying to be as above board as I can.  I’ll try to refrain from being over the top.  
Look forward to many level headed discussions with the new pals at Mediaite.  Of course, thats only until maternity leave is over…..

Money quote…..

progressives called our military “killers, kids, barbaric trash, murderers …” The only time soldiers are celebrated by the left is when they engage in protests like OWS. The rest of the time they’re demonized. They get the red carpet rolled out for them, too.

Uhh… your man Obama sat in a church (for 20 damn years) where the minister preached hatred of the country, and told his flock that 9-11 was “our chickens come home to roost”.

You can be upset at posters with opinions but this whole Jeremiah Wright thing doesn’t even blip your radar…. ?

No they are just unthinking soldiers and they will pay dearly for this behavior.  Probably poor training accounts for this disgusting behavior that borders on Nazi humiliation techniques that ruined my uncle’s sanity.  And that is the sad situation these goofs have put our country in.  One wonders about their training.  My uncle stated that seeing this brought back all the hate filled abuse he suffered when captured by the Japanese.  Poor training may account for this or else just the sick behavior of the disgusting group.  It certainly defies the values of our country.

Please do not lump  Muslims with terrorists like the Taliban or al qaeda.   Please advocate for all who practice their beliefs in a peaceful and godlike manner.  I appreciate your consideration.  

progressives called our military “killers, kids, barbaric trash, murderers …” The only time soldiers are celebrated by the left is when they engage in protests like OWS. The rest of the time they’re demonized. They get the red carpet rolled out for them, too.

Hit a nerve aaaa… fellas

You give 19 Delta a bad name. Its against the Geneva Convention to do anything like that and with have to uphold are American values and  that is especially true in war.  

I don’t think that the killers in Taliban’s Al Qaida need any provocation to kill those who are not Islamists.  Their males are trained from birth to kill those whom they honestly believe are enemies of their religious cult — and that is everyone who is not a Muslim.  And safe to say, this includes you and, of course, me! 

Get this through your skull, “War is Hell” and this damnable cult decided to start a war with America and other countries of the Western World, so our troops should fight this war using the Islamist’s rules of Muslim combat.  It goes without saying, these damnable Muslims are very ignorant members of a community of religious nutcases!  

And these damnable Muslims should be treated as they treat those of us with whom they do not agree!  To treat them otherwise, is – under the best conditions, stupid – and in the worst case, suicidal.  Am I being too harsh?  Do I sound uncivilized?  Should I be called up before the court of world opinion and exposed as a murdering mad man or should I turn the other cheek like a good Christian?  I kid you not, those who have been in battle don’t play by the Queensbury rules of warfare.  They kill or they are killed period, exclamation mark! 

Pissing on these Muslims dead or alive, is very small potatoes when it comes to any type of warfare associated with them.  To write nasty things about the actions of our troops in battle with these damnable Muslims, is foolish at best.  I would go as far as to write this: anybody who writes in these posting boxes critical remarks of the actions taken by these troops during their battle with these damnable Muslims – is a stupid waste of space and time.   

Why do you hate America?
Why do you want to create recruitment videos for the Taliban?
Why do you hate our Soldiers?
Why do you want to spread hate and not Democracy?

The MARINES, striving every day to be just like the Taliban?

I think we need to think about how unChristian this silly woman, loesch, really is….. 

Americans are better than that we stand up for the rule of law.  Who ever it was it’s still a disgrace to what was done.  

Frankly, I agree with Dana.

I would do this too, and you probably Tom, haven’t ever been in a life or death situation…

Ok, lets bring this home. Watching your favorite sport-your QB throws an 80 yard touchdown pass, and your reciever catches….You aren’t pumping your arm, yelling “YAAAH!”, or jumping up out of your chair, swigging your beer and hollering all excitedly? Really? 

Because, thats what this is. 

It’s fun to go to BIG JOURNALISM and read the thoughts of Dana and her Breitbots.

PUHLEESE. Embarrassed?

Not quite. 

Only in the sense that any violent act incites terror are we in any sense of the word terrorist. We are justifiably over there engaged in war because they attacked us here killing thousands in one strike. No they were the aggressors and deserved to have us retaliate.

Yeah, somebody messed up there. 

But, pissing on a dead body is frankly “non-invasive” you know…The dead are Taliban. Not innocents, not children.

This is NOT a big deal. 

The Taliban didn’t attack us, al Qaeda did!

The Al Qaeda hijackers were Saudis, Egyptians and one from the UAE!

Well, 
    Feel FREE to renounce your citizenship, and make yourself some other country’s weakness-as in, weak in thought, weak in character, weak in-well, weak in being the kind of person that is afraid to speak out loud against real injustices. 

It’s an example of posts we’re doing our best to remove and discourage because they’re insulting, unnecessary, alienating to new commenters and detract from the discussion.

So, to be clear: “-Tard” posts will be removed.

“I would do the same thing.”

Then you are a disgrace to what America stands for and you’d be rightfully court marshaled, summarily drummed out the the service with probable jail time.

“We’ve been called much worse Alex…however those comments seem to remain up. Then again, no one has ever declared this to be an unbiased site”

Alex is too liberal.

Wow…….conservative bias

Alex is too conservative .

Why do men have to talk ? Can’t they just sit there and look pretty ?

Some people out there are so freaky they’d look at Dana and want her to pee on them alive or dead.

For them, golden shower FTW.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal
Except the brown ones

Now that’s class.

Just dumb.

Dana Loesch Endorses Taliban Desecration By Marines: ‘I’d Drop Trou And Do It Too’

Pretty on the outside, UGLY on the inside.

You have no idea where I stand on this issue.  But I will tell you. Do I think we should be invading countries for black gold and further enriching these corrupt and powerful oil companies?  No. Do I think we should invade countries for imperialistic goals in the name of spreading Democracy.  No. Do I want us out of Afghanistan?  Absolutely.  But for better or worse, the U.S. as long put a giant footprint on world affairs and it isn’t quite that easy to remove that footprint.  Not everything can be explained in simple “black and white” conclusions as you think.

My original comment had nothing to to about wars.  It was about your narrow minded views of the people serving in our armed forces.

That is two of your ignorant comments I have replied to.  Care for a third? 

No I never said that at all.  Please review my comments.  I just think people like you who take advantage of the men and women in this country who put line lives on the line for you and me have alot of gall to down the troops.  I agree with you that the men who did this terrible thing should be punished.  What they did makes it hard for the men and women who are serving in the military honorably very hard.  You can sit back at home in your comfortable house playing games on your computers and watching tv with no worries that your ass is on the line.  That is all.  The queen and king of the crops of this country are serving in the military everyday.  They are doing more with less while you sit here at home and complain.  Shame on you.

No body liked you in High School, and you got beat up a lot, didn’t you?

Purveyor

Let’s just go to war with the 1.6 billion Muslims who make up about 23% of the world population. It would create a lot of jobs, be great for the economy and keep wingnuts busy and out of everyone’s hair for hundreds of years! War is the best kind of stimulus package!

I just did what Alex suggested and asked you to change it. I did not believe that mediaite meant to improve the site anymore than last time they announced new guidelines. Last time only resulted in the site getting very much worse degrading into nothing more than children throwing insults back and forth with no discussion to be found. All one needed to do if one is conservative to dismiss everything you said was to read your avatar name. It proved bias. Your new avatar and avatar name causes me to be interested in you. I surmise you might deliver babies. What a wonderful profession is being a nurse.

Like a bright, red shiny apple with worms at the core.

Soldiers are just as good as Marines.  All of our troops do a great job.  No better then any other service.  Good god why are there people who want to separate good soldiers.  THEY ARE ALL GREAT SOLDIERS.  When the bullet hits a soldier it doesn’t ask what unit you with.   Believe me I’ve been around many soldiers that have been wounded.  

Its funny, I always feel I need decontamination after visiting the Kos and all of the Marxist posters there.

They broke the golden rule!!

Alex, I didn’t believe this sites new rules because when they announced new rules last time the site did not follow through and it degraded into almost no conversation and nothing more than vicious name calling. It got much much worse than it ever had been before. Looks like you guys might just mean it this time. Hope so.

I have to say some of these young men go back and fort over and over when some are in no condition to do that.  That is why we should have the draft back.  The we will see how fast the war will end.  I bet they won’t want to jump in Iran so fast if Romney’s sons have to go in.

Is this woman that stupid? I cannot believe she doesn’t know the difference between what was VIDEO TAPED and what happens when no one is looking. The facts are that there will probably be other American soldiers or other allied troops who will pay the ultimate price for their stupidity. They urinated on the dead that they had probably just killed but instead of just going on about their job, they had to do something stupid and allow someone to video it. That is where stupid stepped in. If you are going to be stupid- make sure it is not memorialized forever. And as far as Loesch is concerned- one would think someone who is sitting in the safety of a studio would realize the problem came about not because of what they did- but they allowed someone to tape them doing it. And by the way Loesch- it isn’t just “progressives” that think it was the wrong thing to do. It is akin to throwing gasoline on an already large bon-fire and anyone with common sense would know they made a huge error in judgement; the biggest being that they allowed anyone to tape it.

yep. ;)

You’re not going to be able to let go of this one are you? I know it’s a favorite of yours. :)

Really? My comment requesting to see a video of Dana Loesch peeing gets removed? Um … isn’t that what this story is about? If she’s going to say she’d pee on human corpses after seeing a video of it, I should be able to say that I’d like to see a video of her peeing. I made no mention or implication of any prurient interest in viewing such an act. Prurience has nothing to do with it. We’re merely discussing abject degradation and humiliation. So make with the video.

lol

personal attack

Don’t approve yet since I AM NOT THERE NORHAVE I BEEN SUBJECTED TO THE HORROR THESE MEN HAVE SEEN I am not going to judge them

Please don’t be so knee jerk. What the Marines did brought shame onto themselves as well as whipped up the crazies even more.

Have you ever read about what the Japanese and Americans did to each other in the Pacific war?

Or, how about what the Soviets and Germans did to each other on the Eastern Front?  In Russia during WWII, there was no “Geneva Convention.”

Have any of you ever read what the Russians did to German woman, as the Soviets approached Berlin?  Stalin gave his troops permission to rape, as a spoil of war.  Yes, there is a lot of Russian blood in German people, as a result.

And now, a collection of whiny, politically correct Leftists, are complaining about some Jar Heads pissing on little more than pile of shit, that only minutes before was trying to kill them?  Jeez!

They are Marines, they are boys, young men who, IF they return will have left their youth behind on those battle fields.  Those Marines and Soldiers are NOT robots, they are flesh and blood who are being emotionally scarred every minute they are in that shit hole.

And you pussies want to make an issue about this?  Ask your Grandfather about pulling the Gold teeth out of dead “Japs.” on Pelilieu…

I want every last one you to support those young men, or, enlist, and then YOU can show us how to do it right?  That will be the day!

Purveyor of Rhetoric

This is your standard,… “try to stir a problem” vomit! Nobody is saying soldiers are  the enemy,… you know it, but still want to spin the hate!

Does this meet the guidelines for removal?

A Rabble Realist wrote, in response to Colorado_Conservative: You’re an idiot who deserves to be waterboarded. I’d love to see
punks like you tell me it isn’t torture after you wail, cry and beg for
help. Go clean your room before mommy yells at you.

I used to give her credit for being a bit smarter and more reasonable than most of her teabag pals.

I never said Marines were any better than soldiers.  I only said they’re not the same thing and the terms aren’t interchangeable.  It’s like calling a policeman a “fireman”.  Both serve the public, both take courage, but they aren’t the same thing.

True, but what they did certainly alienated our allies, including some Islamic ones. Can’t you accept that this kind of stuff, while not an atrocity,  is a public relations and diplomatic disaster

I lost my temper about this issue.  I actually used profanity!  See my post at the top of the page…

Purveyor

Absolutely.  Of course, I did have one poster tell me that he did not take me seriously due to my Avatar. That would have been enough but then he spent three paragraphs trying to disprove my point. However, I took his comment to heart but then had a few issues trying to change it and actually reached out to the staff at Mediaite to do so.  
As for my career, I do love it.  I do not deliver babies- I am a NICU Nurse ( Neo Natal Intensive Care) and it is rewarding and frustrating.  The avatar is my creation- my little boy born Dec 21, 2011.  He’s pretty cute and not nearly as pointy headed as the picture makes out. 
Thank you and Alex for your calm and thoughtful requests.  

Al Qaida took down the twin towers.  The Taliban ran Afghanistan and provided Al Qaida with a safe haven with which to train.  That’s the link.  I would have thought you’d know that.

So does that mean you’ll zip it all other times?

Patriotism, as well as some of them had some major sadistic issues and sought a field that gave some release to those Then later they moved on to other professions where being brutal and cruel are still acceptable, like police work

Yeah, only lying crack pots serve their country!

You’re suggesting they need an excuse?

Try the rest of the world, including our Islamic allies! You give new meaning to the term pigheaded,.

They are the allies of Al Qaeda and Harbored Al Qaeda. The nationality of the members who attacked us means much less than the country that supported them and embraced them.

I don’t see that in his post.  Perhaps I am looking at the wrong one?

 Indeed it does.

microencephalus salmoides
Don’t remember Wright ever urinating on anyone, live or dead, so what is your point?

Yeah, poor soldiers, victims of the evil liberals.

Different Guy behind the sock today?

Many friends and elected President of Dorm.

Did you beat up a lot of people?

They were Marines, not soldiers. There is a world of difference.

Clowns like you, take the power and honor out of the words “American and patriots”! You and your crack pot wackos make this wonderful country look,… simple!

It’s hard out there for a neolibteacommie.

“So you see these soldiers as the enemy? ”
That is a total mindless strawman argument, but common for fanatics like Michael Small Weiner I mean Savage. For a fanatic can only live on the poles of utter acceptance or utter hatred with no middle ground.

Can you comprehend what you read? Thats not what TG said, ijit.

lol…. I’ve always thought Alex to be about as fair as they come .

That is just as idiotic as some of the righty comments.

Notice “it” didnt mention itself..little tat too scared to do anything but mouth off online, or get tats, lololol. Working t the VA dont make you a veteran, j-a.

the USMC brass thinks otherwise,

Its acting like an animal. Youd think a nurse would know better-shame on you.

Obama is the worse thing that has happened to us and the worse president ever but I don’t see how he set the tone for this.

If Dan Loesch dropped trou in front of me, id kick her innards up to her brains where they could do no worse than the matter already there. What an idiot. Pretty close to tatjack defending this animalistic behavior.

A lot of people like you feel the same way when they realize how dirty they really were before visiting ;)

In the general sense of the word, they are soldiers. Marines are a type of soldier that serve on ships under the navy’s command

They are both forms of soldiers and use mostly the same weapons to fight the enemy. Marines tend to favor smaller unit quick infantry advances while the army tends to favor more digging in then more deliberate advances covered by their artillery and armor

Is Afghanistan even a country in any modern sense of the word?

Really, I thought it was all about fuzzy kittens, cute puppies and adorable little ponies

Typical talk radio.  When there are no callers on telephone lines 1 through 10 radio talk hosts need to say something dramatic to get listeners enraged enough to dial in to comment. 

Standard procedure for a radio show that no one listens to.  Really does anybody listen to Dana whatever her name is?  And the fact that she believes all was good for the pissing servicemen the act itself will never match what she said.  If there will be retaliation it won’t be because of Dana what’shername’s comment

I like where this is going!!! 

lets imagine that some commenters want to test your patience and rules……and so they come up with “tard” names in defiance…..

contard
republitard
conservatard
rigthwingtard
goptard……..and so many more……do you think you have the manpower/justification to delete such numerous usernames…

My username is Rudeboy and yes, most assume that I am trying to say that I am a boy that is rude.Rudeboy is a music thing…..a dancehall/jamaican/reggae thing

You are setting up a precedent for people to say that “rudeboy” is an offensive username….too rude!!!! Let’s ban it!!!!

You mean like when the murdered the European aid workers when the pastor in Florida threatened to burn his copy of the koran?

Speak for yourself, bro.

If Dana dropped trou in front if me, I’ll…. errr… take it like a man ;)

Precisely.

Retaliation- if it occurs- will be due to the action of the Marines, not Danas comment.

A-Type personality, very competitive, now I beat up people like you, metaphorically of course.

Purveyor.  I am assuming by your statement above that you have served or do serve in the armed forces.  Thank you for your service.  I hope you have made many good decisions during your career.
On another note.  My husbands family is all military.  My Father in Law is a ret. JAG atty.  my brother in law is a Green Beret and my husband is Air Force.  My father in law is indeed very conservative but both my brother in law and husband are quite liberal. 
Another liberal who put her life on the line on the field of battle is Tammy Duckworth.  Who most recently served on the VA and is running for congress here in Illinois. 
Just pointing out that it takes all kinds in the millitary and that both Conservatives and progressives serve our country.  So no need to try to claim one party is more patriotic than the other as they both serve one country.

It’s about supporting our values.

when they do sh*t like that… YES

I don’t care what branch of military they are in.  A soldier is a soldier Jay.  The bullet when fired shoots whoever is in front of them.

Interesting point. Rather than raping and scarring the defeated enemy after battles, American soldiers merely pee on their corpses and save the live ones for waterboarding.

Great argument for human progress in civility! I still believe we’re not quite there, yet, though.

It’s hard out there for a neolibteacommie

Newsletter ?

If the GI’s who fought in World War II had had a picture depicting similarly memorializing German or Japanese soldiers (who, btw WERE soldiers, rather than these terrorists) They would have been hailed as heroes.

Oh, how the world has changed for the more sensitive and more compassionate!

Oh, how the world has changed for the insanely worse!

First of all, both your accusations of Rev. Wright and the First Lady is quite wrong and have been unfairly treated as so.  Both accusations are based on statements taken out of context which have been repeated over and over on Fox News and right wing radio as to implant a talking point into your brain causing irrational reactionary behavior purely for political reasons. 

To set the truth, let me bring some sanity to these accusations.  Rev. Wright, who served our country as a Marine in Vietnam, was speaking about the injustice of white America towards black people.  Now whether Rev. Wright is justified in those thoughts is for another discussion.  He was a product of a black man growing up in the 60′s who came back home from a war serving his country only to see injustice going on with his own people.  He doesn’t hate America.  He just hates the crackers.  As for the First Lady, she was commenting on how proud she was of her country that it could finally elect a black man to the presidency.  Now if you have a problem with that… a black man being our president… that is another issue dealing with racism.  It is absolutely shameful the way the right wing media has vilified the president for political reasons but even more so the the First Lady who has acted above of this manufactured character assassination attempt with nothing but class.  For you to unwillingly not see the obvious probably has to do with the manufactured hate in your heart towards the President and his First Lady.

My suggestion to you, NorCalSister, let that hate go.  It doesn’t do the heart any good.  

It’s hard out there for a neolibteacommie

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Exactamente! But the Marines have cultivated this image that they are some super Terminator warrior caste far above mere Army men or anyone else.

I’m sure there are many who would want that. War is good for the economy. Lots of government spending on putting people to work. The problem Republicans had with Obama’s last jobs plan was that the jobs weren’t permanent. For military jobs, contracting jobs, weapons manufacturing jobs, and all the other parts of the war economy to be permanent jobs, we just have to be permanently at war.

Next stop: Iran.

If I were the head of CNN I’d fire her in a second.  Piss on her.

If you think it’s so awful, then join up, go to Afghanistan and set a better example.

CHICAGONURSE,

I didn’t make the claim, Leon Panetta, Hillary Clinton, and the usual clown parade here at mediaite, et.al., did.  I am only responding to this absurd compunction America carries around like a mythological burden.

America must stop apologizing for vanquishing (killing) our enemies.

Humankind has always sent it young men to war because “boys will be boys.”  I mean that with the greatest love and respect, and sadly, the most awful of truths.

Thank you for your comment.

Purveyor

You are full of a word we are not allowed to use here.

ditto

To all of you wailing and gnashing your teeth about this latest faux outrage, do you know how many US personnel were killed in action in the last month?  Do you know their names?  Before you heard about the pissing incident, had you given the military more than a few seconds of thought within the last month?  

Didn’t think so.

VERY well said.
And thanks to your relatives from both parties.

Apparently you are one of those who will be enlisting and showing the rest us how to fight a “civilized war”?  Ouch!  LOL

Ever read Lord of the Flies? 

 I’d give you a week, and you be doing things your dear Mother wouldn’t approve of.  Yet you lack the capacity or imagination to see that war is a nasty business, and if pissing on my dead enemy after a firefight relieves tension, so be it.  Muslim or not!

Furthermore, using war and combat as a measure for civility is an absurdity. As long as there is war, men will bleed and aberrant behavior present.

Purveyor

Well……

I said poop yesterday.

“I am free to express what a lot of Americans feel about the controversy,
even if it makes some pony-tailed academics feel uncomfortable”.

Amen, sister.

You’re also free to be an irrational, infantile, miserable, low-life piece of human excrement … all thanks to the work and sacrifice of many men and women who love this country for far higher values than you harbor in your disgraceful soul.

Hope you don’t believe in a higher moral authority — especially not in God — because if you do, you’re in for an eternity of damnation and disappointment.

You think life on earth is hell?  Just wait.

For “Americans” like tatboy?

Yup. Different country, different language, same scum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3mYgzY5UAI

He’s really not. It’s called pragmatic wisdom. If I had to guess who was stewing in his own soiled diapers it would be you baby.

This was a completely dishonorable action and all the men should be ashamed.

However, this kinda stuff happens all the time and it’s probably party of the secret scary military culture that none of us really experience. The harsh bitter, dark humor-laced reality of being a soldier.. probably includes a lot of very dark things we don’t know.

FYI: Draftees were paid as well.

I’m guessing you’re not really a doctor.

You’re a real pussy.

lol is “teabag” still legal? look at you walking the digital tightrope! you go girl!

You Conservative morons don’t actually get it do you? These Taliban are DEAD, Comprende? It doesn’t mean a hill of beans to them, they are DEAD. Where it does have meaning is with the living. They are the ones who go batshit over it. Now all this will do is stir up the enemy, and give them more propaganda to use against American troops. It’s like in sports when you say something derogatory about your opponent, it’s call “bulletin board material”. It fires up your opponent and makes them more determined to defeat you. I personally could care less about Marines urinating on dead Taliban corpses, but to record that act and post it all over “You Tube” is only inciting the enemy and possibly recruiting more individuals to join their cause.I personally hope little Dana gets her chance to “drop trou” as she so eloquently put it. But then again she says she’s not politically correct so I’m sure she believes she bears no responsibility to join the war effort and go to Afghanistan. And let’s make one thing perfectly clear, to coin an old Nixon saying, no one is “hating” on our troops. What we are saying is that we would like to see all our troops  come home safely and in one piece. The fact that Marines urinate on dead Taliban corpses is a non story. The fact that someone records the incident and then posts it all over
‘You Tube” and increases the dangers to American lives makes it a story.

Well, it’s good to hear you are happy always ensuring that war will always exist.

Let me get this straight: We’re fighting a “culture” of muzzie shit bags who couldn’t care less about the Geneva accords and sure as f**k don’t play by the Marquis of Queensberry rules. They use children for human shields, use planes as human-filled missiles, commit atrocities in the name of shit published in a 7th century screed, and blow up people for “allah’.  And we’re supposed to worry because a group of jarheads pissed on a Taliban corpse.  The troops in question ought to be jack-slapped for videotaping it, but other than that, I couldn’t give a shit less. I’d have joined in by pissing on the son of a bitch myself. I’d have to squat because I’m female but what the hell…

Djoy.

Hint: look at your typewriter and shift one letter to the left :)

We’ll never get there with that sentence structure. :)

Another brilliant, patriotic Murcuhn.  Yup.  Hop in yer PU/SUV  -  it’s weekend time agin!

That was a comment from a disingenuous political charlatan as I assume you could easily be inclined to take up arms against your homeland.  Your political philosophy, from it very inception in 1906 was/is one of the ends justifies the means.  

I no longer trust, or respect the political Left, period!

I’m not sure how that justifies their actions, but okay, whatever you say. 

If you were the head of CNN it’d be just like MSNBC.  

You don’t like “yet, though?” I’m all about the repeated redundancy used to drive home the point home, too.

First of all they are not soldiers they are MARINES, second it may be best if you YOURSELF join the military and help it to change. 

I served for 16 years and I certainly understand the action of these Marines, but as a SOLDIER I wouldn’t have done the same thing. 

And now as a Veteran, I say those running their mouths should join to help the behavior change or STFU!!!! 

Are you out of your effing mind? Pissing on dead scumbags who would throw acid in a woman’s face and stone her or a gay man to death death is like…nazis? Seriously, stop. Just stop. 

Don’t forget Chris Matthews who bragged about he and his sons pissing on Hitler’s grave. True story. Oh, one more thing…they are DEAD, effing dead. Who give’s a rat’s butt about the corpse of truly vile scumbags like the Taliban that did far worse to women in the 10 seconds it took those Marines to relieve their bladders. 

So we’re at war with the people who provided space to the people who killed 3000 Americans, meanwhile the actual people and funding comes from an allied country 800 miles to the southwest of Afghanistan.  I guess since we provided them arms and funding during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, we should be invading the USA shortly, right?  What’s the goal?  We already smashed all of Al Qaida’s bases in Afghanistan.  We’ve captured or killed all of their high ranking officers.  Why are we still there?

nice try monkey. try again.

And as soon as you were conceited and egotistical enough to tell that to Colonel West, he would tell you that if you are too weak and too cowardly to have a baby, don’t get pregnant and if you don’t want to get pregnant, use a contraceptive, or don’t indulge in recreational sex.

If you read a mini biography by doing using a search engine, you find out Dana Loesch never finished her journalism degree from a third-rate university. Maybe CNN is part of the liberal media conspiracy to make the Tea Party look like idiots, which they are. Maybe she will go the way of fellow dummy Sarah Palin, whose multi-million dollar contract with the Fox News Propaganda Channel expires early next year. No one seems to take anything she says seriously since her unfortunate “blood libel” comment on the tragic shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords a year ago.

Gracias.
Haven’t seen you in a couple days.

Is there a meaning to your name?

I don’t know why my last comment to you was removed by the MEDIAITE MODERATORS but I just say this.  You don’t have a clue about what I realize or not.  Your comment is asinine.  My original comment to you was about your generalization of the people that serve in our armed forces.

… is that ok Mediate?  Are you guys going to become as bad as HuffingtonPost?

The Geneva Convention and the conduct it dictates apply to those who wear the uniform of their country.

In a War against Terror(ists) the enemy is all civilians.

I wasn’t marxist before going in there, and I definitely wasn’t after coming out of that filthy sewer they call the Kos.

I do not remember discussing my political philosophy.

By your last line, we can assume you trust and respect the political right?

I no longer trust, or respect the political Parties, period!

As for taking up arms against MY homeland, I see people from the “right” defile and spit on the President of all American people, and have no doubt they would do so.
Me, not so much.

The name has gone through many variations, huffnn—-n (insert current trend). I pop in and out at all random hours of the day …

Well said! (applause)

Those who complain about this are undoubtedly the the sons and daughters of the 1960′s Jane Fonda wannabe’s who took perverse pleasure of spitting on military returning from Viet Nam.

These modern day anti-American, phony boloney, Muslim-loving peacenicks would just as happily spit on the military personnel returning from Afganistan and Iraq. And, of course, call them baby killers, while on their way to the abortion clinic, funded, of course, by tax-payers’ money.

And someone here had the nerve to call the marines POS or worse. No surprise, though! They are, indubitably, liberals.

Like I said: 

“Now I beat you up, metaphorically of course”.

If I could, I would urinate on you, metaphorically of course.

Purveyor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xe1rgFNzHI&list=UUczrL-2b-gYK3l4yDld4XlQ&feature=player_detailpage

You are a pathetic hack.

Do you realize that they have MILITARY PRISONS!?!?!?!?!?!?

Do you know what that means? That means that while you might put on a uniform you are not a saint.

WAKE UP YOU FiNG LOSER!

the commentary is typical of the left right debate…… and she is spot on the left relishes in any screw up by soldiers who they see as “a waste of resources” and want the money to enslave more people in government programs so they will vote for the pied piper of wealth distribution.   and lets face it the only time the left likes soldiers is when they protest something then they embrace them and try to make the the “poster “  of their movement

The worst part about it is that they let it get recorded and didn’t understand the impact of it getting out. As far as stuff soldiers do in war, this is really mild. 

As we did in 1979 – 1980.

I don’t think it’s professional. That having been said, I equate what they did to those corpses with a more offensive version of getting flipped off, and don’t think it’s worth as much discussion as it’s getting.

I’m ok with it, man. :) I just like to be a jackwagon now and again.

Do you want to go with American law? International law? Or Marine code? You know – the one that is very strict about photographing and desecrating the deceased? Enemy or not, we’re all still human beings – not to mention that the Taliban had been in talks with the Afghan government about a unity to end the strife in the country so you can’t really call them the enemy anymore.

*shoos away flying monkey with a mop

I just came across this article, which mirrors comments I made here:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/dana-loesch-endorses-taliban-desecration-by-marines-id-drop-trou-and-do-it-too/#comment-409982909

Marines Piss on Taliban Dead: Understanding War Crimes

Such incidents happen in war. They always have and always will. The difference, of course, is that they now get videotaped and can go viral on the Internet in a matter of hours.Militaries take decent young men and women–mostly men–and train them to kill other human beings on command. Remarkably, they’re supposed to kill members of the opposing force without hesitation while at the same time taking a high degree of personal risk to safeguard noncombatants–including enemy fighters who have surrendered and/or are injured and out of the fight. More remarkably, achieving this seemingly absurd standard is the norm.In order to kill people you’ve never met and who have done nothing to you other than being born in another country, one has to dehumanize and vilify the enemy. They’re given derisive nicknames, made the butt of dark jokes, and every cultural difference exaggerated.In the cases of the recent wars Americans have fought, that often takes on uncomfortable racial, ethnic, and religious undertones. But it happened in World War II, when the enemy (in the European theater, at least) could well have been a not-too-distant relative, too.So, it’s regrettable but hardly shocking that occasionally this coping tool spills over into horrific actions that even most other warriors in theater will condemn.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/marines-piss-on-taliban-dead-understanding-war-crimes/ 

This ain’t Abu Grahib, people.  Jeez.  Let the boys have some fun (and these soldiers are badass enough that it doesn’t seem gay, like a bunch of guys standing around with their dicks out easily could under different circumstances).  Those guys on the ground don’t know what’s happening.  But it’s probably best to keep the footage to yourselves, people. 

Can you imagine what kind of stuff  is on videos we’ll never see?

And another:

The U.S. military should be held to a higher standard, certainly, but it is important to understand the context of the behavior in the video. Clearly, the impulse to desecrate the enemy comes from a very dark and primal place in the human psyche. Once in a while, those impulses are going to break through.There is another context for that behavior, though — a more contemporary one. As a society, we may be disgusted by seeing U.S. Marines urinating on dead Taliban fighters, but we remain oddly unfazed by the fact that, presumably, those same Marines just put .30 caliber rounds through the fighters’ chests. American troops are not blind to this irony. They are very clear about the fact that society trains them to kill, orders them to kill and then balks at anything that suggests they have dehumanized the enemy they have killed.But of course they have dehumanized the enemy — otherwise they would have to face the enormous guilt and anguish of killing other human beings. Rather than demonstrate a callous disregard for the enemy, this awful incident might reveal something else: a desperate attempt by confused young men to convince themselves that they haven’t just committed their first murder, that they have simply shot some coyotes on the back 40.It doesn’t work, of course, but it gets them through the moment; it gets them through the rest of the patrol.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/were-all-guilty-of-dehumanizing-the-enemy/2012/01/13/gIQAtRduwP_story.html 

Never become what you defend against.. or the evil already won.. the fears Americans allow with giving up liberties to Government have already shown that evil is winning..

There is no justifying what they filmed.. We are defenders of liberties to ALL.. even fair humane acts towards our enemy.. that is America.. this is not.
 

you mean bouncing from account to account, right?

Liberals are just upset because it was not Marines who were killed.

??? I would feel blessed if she dropped trou for me. War causes animalistic behaviour, it’s called “war” for a reason. In WWII they did much worse. I bet you felt like doing the same thing in the moments after 9-11.

Just when you think these teabaggers can’t sink any lower they blow away your expectations. Completely detestable, I can’t believe I share the same country with this human vermin.

Nope.

Why are Liberals and Liberal news outlets replaying this video on all their blogs and news?

Yet when Muslim terrorists blow up a church and kill Christians in Nigeria, you never see that reported. When Muslim terrorists set off bombs in Thailand. It is not reported. When Muslim terrorists kill children in Israel it is not reported. When a new Muslim convert is trying to bomb or kill people in the USA it is not even mentioned on here. When Muslims push for Sharia Law in Western countries it is never reported, but when a couple of our military do something IS ALL OVER THE NEWS…why is that?

So the Liberal Media is saying that we have tie our hands behind our back, but the Liberal media NEVER shows how Muslim terrorists operative.

Liberal media IS FEEDING THE TERRORISTS by showing it everwhere, but they never do the same with Islamic terrorist attacks or threats.

Why not report all those terrorist attempts in the USA by Muslims? Notice that is seldom mentioned on Mediaite. If they did it would be pages and pages of attempts by Muslim terrorists, but they go under reported by sites like Mediaite.

I think-Gavins Papa- that those who complain here feel differently about honor than you do. 
I stated earlier that every American has a  right to have an opinion including Dana and you. however, making the false blanket statement that all conservatives feel the same way as you and all liberals feel the opposite does not make that statement true.  You should read some of the comments on here from conservatives that express disgust and disappointment on this matter.  Just sayin’.

You mean the country to the west.

I aspire to be BETTER than the enemy at what they do.
It’s called having a WINNING attitude.
Conservatives am in it to win it
Liberals are there to be fair.
It’s WAR….son.

P.S- I am a Muslim ( although my mum would say not a very good one) and I am most definitely a peacenik.  However, my husband and brother in law serve this country as Air force and Army men respectively.  I have never spit on anyone who serves this country.  Bugger, I’ve never spit on anyone.  

Except those who are trying to kill us

uh…Islam is not a race. Arabs are also considered white.

If all of the enemy are Muslims….Muslims are the enemy.
Shed your tears for the fallen Americans on 9/11

I agree. Mediaite is just doing what the terrorists want.

Mediaite never posts videos of Muslim terrorists killing Christians in Nigeria, or Buddhists in Thailand, or Jews in Israel, or the Copts in Egypt.

Mediaite is a tool of Al Queda.

You mean like God and country?

Liberals always side with the enemy of our country.

They love Michael Moore….just like the mullahs in Iran do.

I don’t care if they were circumcisors….They were AMERICANS.

The killing of innocents in a war zone is collateral damage…son.

You’re a disgrace to our princlples and what we stand for.  We’ve prosecuted WW 2 soldiers for doing the same thing.  

How in the world does that make sense?  So are you of the school that all Muslims are evil and want to destroy America?  How sad.  But then again, by your logic, all KKK members are Christians so all Christians are KKK members.  Which, quite frankly is ridiculous.
As for those who died on 9/11/01? Six  Muslim women lost their lives on that day, one who was 7 months pregnant. But they do not count because they weren’t the right religion for you?
How sad your narrow little life must be.

Meanwhile ANOTHER Muslim living in America gets arrested for plotting terror….yet this goes under reported,, but attacking our soldiers is on the front page of every paper.

This is the 3rd Muslim American terrorist arrest just this week.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/13/1st-3-men-in-nc-terror-ring-sentenced-to-prison/

It could have been worse. What if they gouged their eyes out and pi**ed on their skulls?

oh and shall we not count the other 2 dozen muslims who perished that day?  What about the NYPD cadet Mohamed Salman Hamdani who gave his life serving on the NYPD?  But I guess, they don’t deserve your thoughts and prayers too?

We’re not in war with 1.2 billion Muslims.  Its a real shame you feel this way.  Your illogical thinking is what’s wrong with America.    

What if they ripped their heads off and pi**ed down their throats?

You’re just as bad as there are when you think like them.   

Stop playing coy with me. Both you and I and of course Allah, know you are Socialist, which is a political philosophy. I’ve been reading your comments for months now and you certainly are not a fan of Ronald Reagan.

If you and others would bother to open your eyes to new ideas, I have been espousing “neutral principle” as a philosophy, a focus on “procedural due process” as a consistent and fair methodology for making and enforcing Law.

BUT, my philosophy extends from the Constitution and Founding Fathers, even going back to the age of enlightenment and the great “philosophes” of that era: Locke, Rousseau, Hobbes, etc..

Sadly, such enlightenment is off limits to you as the orthodoxy of your Socialist handlers would be apoplectic to find you studying such!

Purveyor of Rhetoric

Piss on the liberal media. If you get your news from the “News” you’re getting spoon-fed liberal garbage anyway. Just look at the sheep that come here.

This dirtbag wants to be as vile as Pamela Geller her apparent hero in hate.

I say we should quit acting like we’re better than all of our enemies
and knock the f*cking sh!t out of them and anyone that harbors them. Then ask them if they want to play nice. It’s worked in every other war.

After all we do have a president and first lady who think we are not better than any other
country on the planet.

Damned right.  That is why we should be prudent about sending our boys and girls in harm’s way.

Is it just that liberals that are so pathetically stupid or does the phrase “war is hell” have no meaning to liberals?

I hope to “god” that we are better than our enemies..

But would rather just kick their ass and get the hell back home than “pretend” we can control the minds and ways of other countries.

How on earth you, or anyone, could make that ridiculous conclusion relative to my comment, tells me that at least half the people here are incapable of connecting the past to the present and draw a conclusion.  Moreover, they/you lack the ability of original thought!

That includes YOU,  HUFF something or other

Nice to make your acquaintance.

Purveyor

Why not just say that we are a country that will obliterate your cities and piss on your grave in times of war? Maybe our enemies will actually fear us instead of mock us?

Dana Loesch will always have a job waiting for her at Altas Shrugs if the CNN gig doesn’t work out for her.

Minor point, I’m sure, but the Taliban wasn’t involved with 9-11. It was busy returning a struggling culture and economy to the stone age, with our approval and funding.

Not that she cares, but it was Al Queda that helped engineer the 9-11 attacks.

Last time I checked a war was an action between two armies. This “action” does not pass the smell test on multiple counts. This is more like the elephant and the mosquito. As for the “us versus them” crap, why are conservatives like you so frigging scared? Perhaps you require an education. You are afraid of being mocked? Can’t wait till you get out of junior high. By that point your attitude will have you in an adult correctional facility in no time. Just hope the judge gives you the option to enlist so you can understand the real nature of the “war” you love on TV.

So, because hippies in the 60s and 70s talked smack about the Vietnam police action and the men & women who served during it, pissing on dead members of the Taliban is okay? 

I’m a progressive and the descendant of a long line of military personnel. I’ve never said the things you claim, nor have any of my friends. 

You, however, seem to like to talk shit about progressives without considering your words. 

And pissing on these “dead scumbags” helps improve the lives of women and gay men how?

No one appreciates being patronized with “son”, especially when they are a female. And certainly not by some obviously older, patriarchal-mindset person.

It’s obvious you don’t care. And thoughts like that, the way we treat others in the world, go into their nations, mess with their regimes, has cost us over time.

We’re paying for those costs right now. So the last thing America needs in this “conflict” is the “I don’t care crowd”.

Because you certainly care if the shoe was on the other foot and American bodies were being denigrated and desicrated.

How the heck do you draw that conclusion?  They are not the enemy, but their behavior is wrong. Isn’t you and your cronies who constantly whine about “imooral” America/ Well, I suggest you take a look at your own myopic view of the world. 

What do you not get? No one’s hating on the armed forces. People are questioning the actions of these specific Marines. Big difference. So you think this guy is a traitor too??? http://tinyurl.com/7zdwglp

Weren’t the majority of Liberals and Media praising and cheering the death of Gaddfi only a few months ago? Wasn’t he captured, tortured and killed? Weren’t people like Howard Kurtz and Bill Maher complaining that Obama wasn’t getting enough credit for his death?

As I recall, not too many were concerned about Gaddafi’s desecration….

http://t.co/4LENPqAB

http://t.co/BS8izwWO

Was that because they considered Obama responsible for the capture and kill of Gaddafi, therefor they couldn’t criticize the desecration?

Desecration of the dead is as old as war itselfBut he warned against judging them too harshly, saying: “When you ask young men to go kill people for a living, it takes a whole lot of effort to rein that in.” Marty Brenner, an anger management specialist in Beverly Hills, Calif., who treats combat veterans and civilians, said the acts depicted in the video — and the Marines’ recording of it — demonstrate rage.

“They have no other way of expressing their anger at these people,” Brenner said, “so what they’re doing is urinating on them to show, ‘I’m better. I want the world to see you guys are crap and that’s what you deserve.’”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57358997/desecration-of-the-dead-is-as-old-as-war-itself/ 

Both!

You and Lala3 are both full of shit.

I’d p!iss on them twice if it would keep someone as important as you are to me from mocking me, Jan. Three times on Sunday.

Hell, that is what liberals would defend as free speech if the Marines were pissing on our flag.

Your comment has great merit.  But as it is, the sort of behavior demonstrated by these three military folks put the lives of many others open to very disgusting behavior by the enemy.  You see, we are the people with some moral absolutes and our enemy over there are not.  Stuff like this tends to cost many many other of our military very dearly and only produces rage in our enemies.  No excuse for this behavior whatsoever.  However, these guys will pay dearly for their behavior and that is how it should be.  I am certain they will learn the hard way that this behavior is totally unsuited for our military members and that may be a gift to other troops as well as them.  They jeopardize the safety of their buddies. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ubYfue1so&feature=player_profilepage

I bet Lala3 knows as well as I that if those Marines were pissing on our flag they’d be a hero to you and your liberal clowns. Free speech is so important to you liberals, right?

Screw this sh*t. I’m a Democrat, a ‘progressive’ if youi will.  I have more guns than you do and I’d piss on a taliban and dress him in a pig skin suit to wear into eternity.  If you think Repulibcans are military geniuses you missed the Bush Administration’s clusterscrewups. 

What the hell does gay men have to do with this situation?

Your lack of comprehension is entertaining and not much else.

Theresa’s life will never improve.

Pure right-wing, fantasy-land, childish make-believe, phoney-baloney outrage BULLSHIT when you don’t have actual facts.

But don’t forget moderates, you don’t like them very much either.

 What a class act, the type of girl every guy dreams of.

Today’s American ignorance & complete lack of values & basic human decency.  The little “tough guys” vomiting their thoughts here.  Proof of our education system.  Thank you, RayGun & the 2 BushDrunks & gang.

http://www.zimbio.com/Occupy+Wall+Street/articles/v0kxdrC1_zM/Protester+Defends+Flag+Burning+Occupy+Charlotte

Go hug a tree!

Deal with it….Lambchop.
American bodies have been desecrated by  Muslim bastards.
Dragged through the streets….
Where the hell have you been?

Urinating on a dead Muslim radical is a waste of urine.

HELP!!!
I am surrounded by Mediaite butt-kissers!!!

This whole situation is very simple: Just a few minutes before this video was taken, the Marines were under attack by the taliban fighters who were then killed.  If these Marines had not killed the taliban fighters, the taliban fighters may have killed them.  War is hell and I thought we all knew that.  By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themslves in a manner that was justifiable?  No!. By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themselves in a manner that was understandable? Yes.  Things like this probably happen all the time and we cannot condemn these young men until we have actually walked in their footsteps!  What they did was not right, and the matter should be investigated to ascertain all of the circumstances. These men and the overwhelming majority of our outsanding servicemen and servicewomen who would never do such a thing, should not be thrown under the bus.

This whole situation is very simple: Just a few minutes before this video was taken, the Marines were under attack by the taliban fighters who were then killed.  If these Marines had not killed the taliban fighters, the taliban fighters may have killed them.  War is hell and I thought we all knew that.  By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themslves in a manner that was justifiable?  No!. By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themselves in a manner that was understandable? Yes.  Things like this probably happen all the time and we cannot condemn these young men until we have actually walked in their footsteps!  What they did was not right, and the matter should be investigated to ascertain all of the circumstances. These men and the overwhelming majority of our outsanding servicemen and servicewomen who would never do such a thing, should not be thrown under the bus.

This whole situation is very simple: Just a few minutes before this video was taken, the Marines were under attack by the taliban fighters who were then killed.  If these Marines had not killed the taliban fighters, the taliban fighters may have killed them.  War is hell and I thought we all knew that.  By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themslves in a manner that was justifiable?  No!. By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themselves in a manner that was understandable? Yes.  Things like this probably happen all the time and we cannot condemn these young men until we have actually walked in their footsteps!  What they did was not right, and the matter should be investigated to ascertain all of the circumstances. These men and the overwhelming majority of our outsanding servicemen and servicewomen who would never do such a thing, should not be thrown under the bus.

This whole situation is very simple: Just a few minutes before this video was taken, the Marines were under attack by the taliban fighters who were then killed.  If these Marines had not killed the taliban fighters, the taliban fighters may have killed them.  War is hell and I thought we all knew that.  By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themslves in a manner that was justifiable?  No!. By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themselves in a manner that was understandable? Yes.  Things like this probably happen all the time and we cannot condemn these young men until we have actually walked in their footsteps!  What they did was not right, and the matter should be investigated to ascertain all of the circumstances. These men and the overwhelming majority of our outsanding servicemen and servicewomen who would never do such a thing, should not be thrown under the bus.
 

This whole situation is very simple: Just a few minutes before this video was taken, the Marines were under attack by the taliban fighters who were then killed.  If these Marines had not killed the taliban fighters, the taliban fighters may have killed them.  War is hell and I thought we all knew that.  By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themslves in a manner that was justifiable?  No!. By urinating on the bodies of the men who were trying to kill them just a few minutes earlier, did the Marines conduct themselves in a manner that was understandable? Yes.  Things like this probably happen all the time and we cannot condemn these young men until we have actually walked in their footsteps!  What they did was not right, and the matter should be investigated to ascertain all of the circumstances. These men and the overwhelming majority of our outsanding servicemen and servicewomen who would never do such a thing, should not be thrown under the bus.
 

Late on the evening of May 1, 2011, and in to the morning hours of May 2, 2011, people all over America went into the streets in spontaneous celebrations of joy, because President Obama announced that the United States Military had just killed Osama Bin Laden!  We did not give a damn what any of our enemies thought about America or had to say about America.  After almost 10 years, a small measure of justice had been handed out to the man who had orchestrated the September 11, 2001, attacks on America which had killed almost 3000 American citizens. American citizens were overjoyed and relieved that the mission had been accomplished.  Remembering how we all reacted when we heard the news (and none of us were in a zone of possible immediate death), it is easy to understand why the four Marines in the video reacted the way that they did.  It was not right.  It was not justifiable.  It was, however, understandable.
Slap them on the wrists and tell them not to do it again. Then let us accomplish the mission and eliminate any and all threats to the security of the United States!

Good comment, but I am not the least bit concerned about what our enemy thinks.  They hated us before this video was made public and they would have continued to hate us if they had never seen it.

Your comment is right on target!

Please, read the Wiki article on the Taliban, then realize how dumb you are. Many of the Taliban officials were officers or recruiters for al-Qaeda the group which claimed responsibility for the 9/11 attack.  Recruited by Taliban for al-Qaeda specifically for the attacks.

Please, do an internet search and verify your facts before posting nonsense.

Here’s your link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban

You’re wasting your breath, most of these “patriots” can’t remember if we were or are currently at war with Oceania, Eurasia and/or Eastasia

Yeah, how’s that working so far.  Would you say we have more or less enemies since our occupation of two sovereign states for no apparent reason?  Let me ask, if the Soviets had invaded America, would you just say “Gosh, they’re so strong, they killed my wife and sons and brothers, I guess I’ll have to just give in and adopt their way of life.”

Your lack of relevant response is typical and you have failed to address the point.

I actually don’t live in Afghanistan and I believe it was Saudis who attacked us.

But yeah, I don’t really care for the Taliban and the way they treat women, gays, etc.  So NBD.  Just don’t think we should be there.

The Marines have expressed outrage at this behavior.
If it offends their standards, procedures and training, who am I to second guess them?

Only those folks who deify soldiers, no matter their behavior, will object to a military investigation.

Just don’t let someone film it next time, then there will be no problem.  A dead body is just an empty shell, the person is no longer in the body, they are either in Heaven, with our Lord Jesus, or they are in the Fires of Hell.  These Taliban were already  being roasted by Satan, their God, so no big deal.  Just remember, no filming or photo taking.  Carry On, Men!

The Urinberg trials

I would ask Teabagger Dana, that Angry White Witch if she would like to participate in a golden shower, R. Kelly style. I would like to honestly arrange for that to happen. I am quite sure some horny Teabagger fella would love that from her married ***. I would tweet this to her if I was on her Tweeter account and not give a **** I was blocked afterwards!  Is everyone who thinks right wing crazy have Breitbart ties like this Angry White Woman? **** HER

Maybe she likes to get peed on.

Now it’s official. EVERYONE who works with  Breitbart is a stupid bitch, including Andy himself.

Soldiers have responsibilities to behave intelligently and according to their orders. This behavior, which just makes their comrades’ jobs that more difficult and deadly, was neither.

They’ll get the book thrown at them, and I’ll cheer. The American military is not a collection of barbarians; it’s a collection of professionals. Except for these dickheads.

Where’s your vaunted “neutral principle” now? Yeah. I thought so.

Presuming you kicked her in the ass, it wouldn’t need to travel far to encounter her brains. What a phenomenal dumbfuck.

Dana,  I do understand your need, since you work in the media, to drum up controversy by often taking the ridiculous and utterly wrong side of arguments, but in this case you are not only politically incorrect, but incorrect in general. These soldiers should probably be charged for what they’ve done as an example for other US troops to not engage in such disgraceful behaviour, and here’s why.First of all, things like this only embolden opponents of the US. While the atrocities committed by the occupying US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have overall been few and far between, every instance and especially those caught on tape can be used by terrorists and insurgents to recruit more followers. Condoning this kind of behaviour only makes the military’s job more difficult.Secondly, it is utter stupidity to excuse any US atrocity as being justified because it supposedly only harmed ‘terrorists’. Of the hundreds of people locked up in Guantanomo Bay and thousands elsewhere as part of the ‘War on Terror’ many were later released without charge, sure some probably were terrorists and there simply wasn’t enough evidence to charge them with any crime, but many simply were not enemy combatants at all. They were innocent civilians who had been wrongly locked up by the US. Is it even known for certain that the people whose bodies were urinated on were Taliban fighters? Had they ever tried to kill US troops? Even if they were then why did they become Taliban? Were their parents or siblings killed in a bombing raid or a drone strike or wrongly dragged away to Bagram airbase or some other US prison? Do we know any of this for certain? This is why we need to try insurgents and ‘terrorists’ in civilian courts, because otherwise there’s nothing stopping the government from locking up hundreds of innocents to simply make it look like its achieving something, like the Guildford Four a hundred times over (and if you don’t know who the Guildford Four were, I strongly recommend googling them).Third, it is not ‘progressives’ that are the biggest danger to the military. Barack Obama is the one who ended the ‘stop-loss’ policy that dragooned tens of thousands of soldiers into fighting in Iraq for much longer than the military originally informed them because the Bush administration monumentally f*cked up the running of that war. Obama hasn’t yet made any disastrous foreign policy blunders that have led to the deaths of thousands of young Americans. Like he said he would, he has only fought non-dumb wars, unlike Bush, and thank God for that.Finally, if this video had been of Taliban fighters urinating on the bodies of US marines, would you still be defending them as doing something basically harmless???

Dana,  I do understand your need, since you work in the media, to drum up controversy by often taking the ridiculous and utterly wrong side of arguments, but in this case you are not only politically incorrect, but incorrect in general. These soldiers should probably be charged for what they’ve done as an example for other US troops to not engage in such disgraceful behaviour, and here’s why.
First of all, things like this only embolden opponents of the US. While the atrocities committed by the occupying US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have overall been few and far between, every instance and especially those caught on tape can be used by terrorists and insurgents to recruit more followers. Condoning this kind of behaviour only makes the military’s job more difficult.
Secondly, it is utter stupidity to excuse any US atrocity as being justified because it supposedly only harmed ‘terrorists’. Of the hundreds of people locked up in Guantanomo Bay and thousands elsewhere as part of the ‘War on Terror’ many were later released without charge, sure some probably were terrorists and there simply wasn’t enough evidence to charge them with any crime, but many simply were not enemy combatants at all. They were innocent civilians who had been wrongly locked up by the US. Is it even known for certain that the people whose bodies were urinated on were Taliban fighters? Had they ever tried to kill US troops? Even if they were then why did they become Taliban? Were their parents or siblings killed in a bombing raid or a drone strike or wrongly dragged away to Bagram airbase or some other US prison? Do we know any of this for certain? This is why we need to try insurgents and ‘terrorists’ in civilian courts, because otherwise there’s nothing stopping the government from locking up hundreds of innocents to simply make it look like its achieving something, like the Guildford Four a hundred times over (and if you don’t know who the Guildford Four were, I strongly recommend googling them).
Third, it is not ‘progressives’ that are the biggest danger to the military. Barack Obama is the one who ended the ‘stop-loss’ policy that dragooned tens of thousands of soldiers into fighting in Iraq for much longer than the military originally informed them because the Bush administration monumentally f*cked up the running of that war. Obama hasn’t yet made any disastrous foreign policy blunders that have led to the deaths of thousands of young Americans. Like he said he would, he has only fought non-dumb wars, unlike Bush, and thank God for that.
Finally, if this video had been of Taliban fighters urinating on the bodies of US marines, would you still be defending them as doing something basically harmless???

Dana,  I do understand your need, since you work in the media, to drum up controversy by often taking the ridiculous and utterly wrong side of arguments, but in this case you are not only politically incorrect, but incorrect in general. These soldiers should probably be charged for what they’ve done as an example for other US troops to not engage in such disgraceful behaviour, and here’s why.
First of all, things like this only embolden opponents of the US. While the atrocities committed by the occupying US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have overall been few and far between, every instance and especially those caught on tape can be used by terrorists and insurgents to recruit more followers. Condoning this kind of behaviour only makes the military’s job more difficult.
Secondly, it is utter stupidity to excuse any US atrocity as being justified because it supposedly only harmed ‘terrorists’. Of the hundreds of people locked up in Guantanomo Bay and thousands elsewhere as part of the ‘War on Terror’ many were later released without charge, sure some probably were terrorists and there simply wasn’t enough evidence to charge them with any crime, but many simply were not enemy combatants at all. They were innocent civilians who had been wrongly locked up by the US. Is it even known for certain that the people whose bodies were urinated on were Taliban fighters? Had they ever tried to kill US troops? Even if they were then why did they become Taliban? Were their parents or siblings killed in a bombing raid or a drone strike or wrongly dragged away to Bagram airbase or some other US prison? Do we know any of this for certain? This is why we need to try insurgents and ‘terrorists’ in civilian courts, because otherwise there’s nothing stopping the government from locking up hundreds of innocents to simply make it look like its achieving something, like the Guildford Four a hundred times over (and if you don’t know who the Guildford Four were, I strongly recommend googling them).
Third, it is not ‘progressives’ that are the biggest danger to the military. Barack Obama is the one who ended the ‘stop-loss’ policy that dragooned tens of thousands of soldiers into fighting in Iraq for much longer than the military originally informed them because the Bush administration monumentally f*cked up the running of that war. Obama hasn’t yet made any disastrous foreign policy blunders that have led to the deaths of thousands of young Americans. Like he said he would, he has only fought non-dumb wars, unlike Bush, and thank God for that.
Finally, if this video had been of Taliban fighters urinating on the bodies of US marines, would you still be defending them as doing something basically harmless???

I see her a lot on CNN. This girl is smarter and more intelligent than most tea party leaders. While I don’t always agree with her, I served in Vietnam, and unless you been in a firefight either in the jungle or the desert, you have no clue what’s in the minds of these guys. In war no one gives a shit about Geneva Convention rules. You fight to survive. It’s either you or him. Their adrenalin was still pumping, and they’re just human. You don’t see it but the muslim fanatics do a lot worse to our soldiers. What are they going to do to these guys, charge them with Conduct Unbecoming. That’s what’s called A Field Grade Article 15 infraction under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which does not call for jail time. But, the defense department will have no choice by to charge them under General Court Martial rules for all the world to see. If I was one of the commanders, I would like to know who the Frock took the video, take him behind a hill and beat the living shit out him and literally take that phone and shove it down his ass.

If we are going to play HERO to the Taliban’s VILLAIN, then we need to act like heroes.

Heroes don’t pee on corpses. 

Definition of “Degenerate”: 
“Having fallen to an inferior or undesirable state, especially in mental or moral qualities.”http://www.thefreedictionary.com/degenerates It’s not name calling. It’s my opinion of the public figure in question. What they have done to “journalism” is reprehensible and degenerate.(I am kind of curious what names I was called though…and yet I appreciate the removal and the defense from other commenters)

Aunt Jemima EDiva was hoping that the Marines were killed and not the Taliban, especially since they are white.

Definition of “Degenerate”: 

“Having fallen to an inferior or undesirable state, especially in mental or moral qualities.”

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/degenerates 

It’s my opinion of the public figures in question. What they have done to “journalism” is reprehensible and degenerate.

The definition of “leech”: 

“To drain the essence or exhaust the resources of. v.intr.”
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/leech

Again, this is what they are doing in the name of journalism. Giving the impression they are journalists when in fact they are political activists.

So, I actually had a point to make. I wasn’t name calling.

I don’t disagree with any of this.

I disagree with public figures publicly condoning this action, simply to get attention or score political points, or because they really haven’t thought the matter through.

So Maher and all the commenters justifying the actions of the soldiers are wrong.

But, personally, I wouldn’t punish any of these young soldiers for the stupid thing they did on camera. It’s not liked they killed or raped anyone.

EXPAT,

At what point in the life of modern man did the warrior become a “collection of professionals” as you say…  WWII?  The Napoloeonic Wars?  The Punic Wars?  Or, is the “professional” warrior a modern manifestation of the civilian mind?  (No offense to the warrior intended)                             William Tecumseh Sherman once said: (paraphrase)     ”Is a good thing war is such nasty business, otherwise we would come to enjoy it”Apparently you did not read, thoroughly, my original post, as you seem to believe that mortal combat is clean and devoid of violent eccentricities?  Anyway:As for curious remark about neutral principle…  Our Nation’s military has traditionally been the “guarantor” of the existence of our Republic, hence, has not and must not be constrained by civilian law.  Thus, a civilian Police Officer is restrained from “reconnaissance by fire,” whereas such is standard procedure for Soldiers in a combat zone.I might add that pissing on your dead enemy after a firefight might seem unsavory to a pussy in Berkley, however, might seem perfectly reasonable to a Marine who has survived that “firefight!”The Purveyor of Rhetoric

EXPAT,

At what point in the life of modern man did the warrior become a “collection of professionals” as you say…  WWII?  The Napoloeonic Wars?  The Punic Wars?  Or, is the “professional” warrior a modern manifestation of the civilian mind?  (No offense to the warrior intended)                             

William Tecumseh Sherman once said: (paraphrase)   

 ”Is a good thing war is such nasty business, otherwise we would come to enjoy it”

Apparently you did not read, thoroughly, my original post, as you seem to believe that mortal combat is clean and devoid of violent eccentricities?  Anyway:As for curious remark about neutral principle…  Our Nation’s military has traditionally been the “guarantor” of the existence of our Republic, hence, has not and must not be constrained by civilian law.  Thus, a civilian Police Officer is restrained from “reconnaissance by fire,” whereas such is standard procedure for Soldiers in a combat zone.I might add that pissing on your dead enemy after a firefight might seem unsavory to a pansy in Berkley, however, might seem perfectly reasonable to a Marine who has survived that “firefight!”

The Purveyor of Rhetoric

ExPAT,

At what point in the history of Man, did the warrior become a “collection of professionals”… WWII?  The Napoleonic Wars?  The Punic Wars?  Or, is the “professional” warrior a manifestation of the modern civilian mind?

                            William Tecumseh Sherman once said:

“Is a good thing war is such nasty business, for we would soon come to enjoy it”

Urinating on your dead enemy after surviving a fire fight with him, might seem reasonable to an adrenaline addled 20 year old from Green Bay Wisconsin?  However, such an act apparently offends the sensibilities of the very people’s freedoms that young man is protecting:  Namely you, so go swill some of your “reasonably tolerable Merlot,” as the Soldier will no doubt eat an MRE!

Oh yes: Please re-read my original post as such offers a list of unsavory behavior committed by “warriors” in recent military history.  (It goes with the territory, I am afraid.)

As for your curious comment about neutral principle:  The American Military has been a guarantor of the safe existence of our Nation, our Republic.  Thus, should not, cannot be encumbered with civilian law.  But you haven’t been honestly engaging in discourse with me, have you? You only seek to diminish my thesis and not see anything positive contained within?

Purveyor of Rhetoric 

ExPAT,

At what point in the history of Man, did the warrior become a “collection of professionals”… WWII?  The Napoleonic Wars?  The Punic Wars?  Or, is the “professional” warrior a manifestation of the modern civilian mind?

                            William Tecumseh Sherman once said:

“Is a good thing war is such nasty business, for we would soon come to enjoy it”

Urinating on your dead enemy after surviving a fire fight with him, might seem reasonable to an adrenaline addled 20 year old from Green Bay Wisconsin?  However, such an act apparently offends the sensibilities of the very people’s freedoms that young man is protecting:  Namely you, so go swill some of your “reasonably tolerable Merlot,” as the Soldier will no doubt eat an MRE!

Oh yes: Please re-read my original post as such offers a list of unsavory behavior committed by “warriors” in recent military history.  (It goes with the territory, I am afraid.)

As for your curious comment about neutral principle:  The American Military has been a guarantor of the safe existence of our Nation, our Republic.  Thus, should not, cannot be encumbered with civilian law.  But you haven’t been honestly engaging in discourse with me, have you? You only seek to diminish my thesis and not see anything positive contained within?

Purveyor of Rhetoric 

test

At least since the introduction of the all-volunteer army following Vietnam, the US military has presented itself as “professional.” I’d add that, throughout history, there have been professional soldiers, and most of them were privates (or the equivalent) at one time.

But no matter: the US military is supposed to be “professional.”

As for “protecting my freedoms,” I expect that’s what the young soldier thinks he’s doing. Unfortunately he’s been sold a bill of goods and his sacrifice is pointless, his suffering to no avail, and the body count he racks up adds to no one’s security. The war in Afghanistan is a fraud, and Obama’s failure to get out sooner is one of the biggest blots on his record.

Merlot or MRE? I’ve had both. I prefer real food and real wine and I’m sure the soldier does too. He needs to come home.

And your closing statement about the soldier’s immunity from civilian law is the most chilling (and the craziest) thing I’ve ever seen you post. Soldiers must, must, must be encumbered by civilian law or we are all doomed. The rules of engagement under which soldiers operate are authorititative only because they derive from civilian authority. If we ever lose sight of that there is nothing that can save us.

Frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself.

P.S: While I will admit that I reject your notions of “neutral principle” as both inconsequential and wrong, it’s unfair to accuse me of dishonest discourse. I have been up-front and unambiguous in responding to your posts because you are one of the few people here interested in discussing issues rather than engaging in drive-by shooting. Don’t diappoint me now.

DAN, 

We don’t want to do things that might “embolden” our enemies behavior?  Then lets surrender.  I think you miss the entire point of WAR.

When we learned how fearful of dogs Iraqi’s were, we took the dogs away.  What we should have done was brought in an Army of dogs!

                            William Tecumseh Sherman once said:

       ”Is a good thing war is such nasty business, or we would soon enjoy it”

The reason we dropped “Fat Man” and “Little Boy” on Japan was not because we were concerned about increasing the Japanese resolve!

The quickest way to end Islamic expansionism would be to systematically reduce the Islamic Shrines and Mosques, to dust, one by one, until they capitulate.

Purveyor of Rhetoric

SARAH,

Long time no see?

This particular issue angers me.  The Military is the protector and guarantor of our civil liberties.  They must not be constrained by civilian considerations or viewpoints, lest we weaken our defense from terrible enemies.

The vicious comments about our warriors by the left shows me the left are NOT concerned with the event in question, rather, they simply dislike anything perceived as Right Wing?

Purveyor

I guess I was mistaken when I thought you were above personal attacks??

The Taliban have done a lot worse to American soldiers.  I don’t recall any self righteous outrage when the corpses of the two American soldiers were dragged through Mogadishu, then desecrated well beyond what these soldiers did.  Nor did I hear and outcry of similar proportions when the Blackwater security contractors were killed, their bodies burned, and hung from a bridge in Fallujah.

As Congressman Allen West put it, “Shut your mouth.  War is hell.”

EXPAT,

You are out of your element, more than I realized, your writing ability not withstanding.

I’ll keep this simple: Your comment…Quote: “The war in Afghanistan is a fraud.”  Thus, we see what this is really about, to you.  I suspect, for instance, you are also opposed to Military recruiters in Berkley, or anywhere for that matter?  Quite simply, you dislike all things military.

Moreover, and this goes to your being “out of your element”:  You must not read or cogitate on what I write?  As a legal philosopher, I’ve been toying with these kinds of issues for years, yet you and others miss so much nuance and supporting evidence I provide in my comments.  (Or, do you avoid contrary ideas, out of course?)

Responding to many of your comments, often I have to say the same thing twice, or, clarify concepts that should be incumbent on you to do so…

Anyway, The Uniform Code of Military Justice, more than adequately deals with the alleged transgressions within the purview of the military.  Hence, your maudlin appeal for civilian authority is, dare I say, silly and again gives insight as to your real intentions.

As for “neutral principle” being “inconsequential,”  Judge Robert Bork has recently published a book about it.  I am sure its available AMAZON?  Ouch!

Purveyor of Rhetoric

Wow.  You know we’ve come far when someone like EDiva75 can engage in a prolonged racist rant, and no one bats an eye.

LEEDOG,

Unfortunately I was mistaken about you having an inquisitive mind.  With friends like yours, you certainly don’t need enemies.  You seem to gravitate to some of biggest and most irrational demagogues here.

As for personal attacks, that is your forte’.  If and when I use any form of ad hominem, I do such with aplomb, a certain how do you say… ‘je ne se quois’

Purveyor

There was a glitch that ate my posts, or so I thought. I had to write them three times.

Anyway, that is why there are three similar posts. Pissed me off! (pun intended) LOL

what?

so?

When the original video surfaced, now since removed,  one of the marines who was in the process of desecrating the dead bodies, asked in a laughing way, “did you get it on video?”  They were all at fault, not just the person taking the video.
When you start acting like the enemy, you become no better than them. Do you not think of the impact this will have on the rest of our military? How they’ll have to watch thier backs even more? Because of this disgusting display, any progress made to resolve this insane conflict, is now non-existant.

you should be ashamed of your self Dana Loesch, you do not represent America , you have no value at all

Come on, the part about the “broken skate board” was funny? LOL

Democrats will justify flag burning (done by privileged college kids) as patriotic, acceptable free speech but then they hate on Marines who get caught up in the moment of war and piss on the dead bodies of terrorists in wartime.  You know, the same Marines who are protecting their right to burn a flag? 

Leftists can crap on cop cars, burn the American flag but get outraged when US Marines pee on dead Taliban…fake indignant hypocritical liberal outrage is disgusting.

Seems that anyone with a backbone is unafraid of pissing on their ENEMY.

Most famously, General George S. Patton relieved himself in the
Rhine on March 24, 1945—and made sure he was photographed doing so.
Patton later recalled: “I drove to the Rhine River and went across on
the pontoon bridge. I stopped in the middle to take a piss and then
picked up some dirt on the far side in emulation of William the
Conqueror.” (At the time, actually, Patton was less concerned with
emulating William the Conqueror and more worried about finishing off the
enemy. Later that day he sent a communiqué to General Dwight D.
Eisenhower, in command of Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
Force: “Dear SHAEF, I have just pissed into the Rhine River. For God’s
sake, send some gasoline.”)
It wasn’t just American generals who seemed preoccupied with pissing
back in 1945. Three weeks earlier, Winston Churchill had visited the
front lines near Jülich. Churchill had long dreamed of urinating on
Hitler’s much-vaunted Siegfried Line to show his contempt for Hitler and
Nazism. Unlike Patton, Churchill forbade photographs of the occasion.
But General Alan Brooke, chief of the Imperial General Staff, who was
with Churchill that day, later wrote: “I shall never forget the childish
grin of intense satisfaction that spread all over his face as he looked
down at the critical moment.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/men-war_616727.html?nopager=1

Seems that anyone with a backbone is unafraid of pissing on their ENEMY.

Most famously, General George S. Patton relieved himself in the
Rhine on March 24, 1945—and made sure he was photographed doing so.
Patton later recalled: “I drove to the Rhine River and went across on
the pontoon bridge. I stopped in the middle to take a piss and then
picked up some dirt on the far side in emulation of William the
Conqueror.” (At the time, actually, Patton was less concerned with
emulating William the Conqueror and more worried about finishing off the
enemy. Later that day he sent a communiqué to General Dwight D.
Eisenhower, in command of Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
Force: “Dear SHAEF, I have just pissed into the Rhine River. For God’s
sake, send some gasoline.”)
It wasn’t just American generals who seemed preoccupied with pissing
back in 1945. Three weeks earlier, Winston Churchill had visited the
front lines near Jülich. Churchill had long dreamed of urinating on
Hitler’s much-vaunted Siegfried Line to show his contempt for Hitler and
Nazism. Unlike Patton, Churchill forbade photographs of the occasion.
But General Alan Brooke, chief of the Imperial General Staff, who was
with Churchill that day, later wrote: “I shall never forget the childish
grin of intense satisfaction that spread all over his face as he looked
down at the critical moment.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/men-war_616727.html?nopager=1

Seems that anyone with a backbone and that has a urethra is unafraid of pissing on their ENEMY.

Most famously, General George S. Patton relieved himself in the
Rhine on March 24, 1945—and made sure he was photographed doing so.
Patton later recalled: “I drove to the Rhine River and went across on
the pontoon bridge. I stopped in the middle to take a piss and then
picked up some dirt on the far side in emulation of William the
Conqueror.” (At the time, actually, Patton was less concerned with
emulating William the Conqueror and more worried about finishing off the
enemy. Later that day he sent a communiqué to General Dwight D.
Eisenhower, in command of Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
Force: “Dear SHAEF, I have just pissed into the Rhine River. For God’s
sake, send some gasoline.”)
It wasn’t just American generals who seemed preoccupied with pissing
back in 1945. Three weeks earlier, Winston Churchill had visited the
front lines near Jülich. Churchill had long dreamed of urinating on
Hitler’s much-vaunted Siegfried Line to show his contempt for Hitler and
Nazism. Unlike Patton, Churchill forbade photographs of the occasion.
But General Alan Brooke, chief of the Imperial General Staff, who was
with Churchill that day, later wrote: “I shall never forget the childish
grin of intense satisfaction that spread all over his face as he looked
down at the critical moment.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/men-war_616727.html?nopager=1

Seems that anyone with a backbone and that has a urethra is unafraid of pissing on their ENEMY.

Most famously, General George S. Patton relieved himself in the
Rhine on March 24, 1945—and made sure he was photographed doing so.
Patton later recalled: “I drove to the Rhine River and went across on
the pontoon bridge. I stopped in the middle to take a piss and then
picked up some dirt on the far side in emulation of William the
Conqueror.” (At the time, actually, Patton was less concerned with
emulating William the Conqueror and more worried about finishing off the
enemy. Later that day he sent a communiqué to General Dwight D.
Eisenhower, in command of Supreme Headquarters Allied Expeditionary
Force: “Dear SHAEF, I have just pissed into the Rhine River. For God’s
sake, send some gasoline.”)
It wasn’t just American generals who seemed preoccupied with pissing
back in 1945. Three weeks earlier, Winston Churchill had visited the
front lines near Jülich. Churchill had long dreamed of urinating on
Hitler’s much-vaunted Siegfried Line to show his contempt for Hitler and
Nazism. Unlike Patton, Churchill forbade photographs of the occasion.
But General Alan Brooke, chief of the Imperial General Staff, who was
with Churchill that day, later wrote: “I shall never forget the childish
grin of intense satisfaction that spread all over his face as he looked
down at the critical moment.”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/men-war_616727.html?nopager=1

Way to cave in and not stand up for the fact that it is inherently wrong. Coward.

Yes they are the enemy, nobody forced these psychos to sign up. This is not the draft. These fukkturds are paid with my money to piss on dead bodies. HELL NO!!!!!

If they peed on dead people, Taliban or not, then they are pathetic humans, even if they are great fighting Marines and and defended our country.  I can appreciate their defense of the country, even as I abhor their behavior here.  They behaved in a way that brings some level of shame on the Marine Corps and the US.  This is not some drinking at a bar and sharing a laugh-out-loud moment in an alley. It’s not JackAss, the movie. This is a war and a moment in which, given that they filmed it and shared it, they are on public display around the world. Is that really the image you want portrayed about the Marines and the US?  If so, you are the one whose values are un-American.  Shame on them for this act and shame on you for defending it.

Their behavior is the enemy of the values I believe America represents.  I can separate their role as defenders of America, which I appreciate and applaud, while criticizing their behavior in this case.  That’s one of the good parts of being a thoughtful American. I can be a thoughtful patriot. I don’t have to mindlessly accept bad behavior from otherwise noble people.  I can have opinions that are subtle, not follow a mindless patriotism.

What was the proper context that God should damn America?  As well, what was the proper context that we brought the death of 2,996 Americans on ourselves?

There are other black people who don’t act his way.  There’s Herman Cain, Chris Gardner, Clarence Thomas among others who grew up in that time who were black and seemed to have a vastly different view.

As for the First Lady, everyone knows what she meant.  She was proud of her country for the first time.  She wasn’t proud we inspired freedom in the hearts of young people before, she wasn’t proud that so many would do so much to protect their fellow countrymen, she was just an over privileged black woman who’s least common denominator for any politics was race and that’s sad.

My suggestion to you, quit making excuses for hate.

True they aren’t exactly the same. But you know what he meant they are both serving the military of this country.

And the actions by these little boys is a disgrace to both this country and the uniform that they wore.

ignore Pablo

He has a history of telling people they can’t comprehend his vast wisdom.

And yet he never says anything memorable or intelligent

Glad to see a true conservative woman stand up and be counted!  Was getting rather tired of the RINO-loving Coulter!

Next week President Obama should hold a press conference and threaten to invade Saudi Arabia unless they permit women to drive cars!  A h h h h, Revenge is so sweet!
 

Look at context,not sound bites,save the spin for the ignorant.

Well, it’s  like the old saying goes:

Better to be pissed off than to be pissed on.

Peter,  can you go to your link and find the words “Al Qaida” for me, please.  I didn’t see it once.  Had to do a search of the page and only found a reference at the bottom:  “Pakistan Military Kills Alleged Al Qaida Facilitator”.  And you’re railing on me to “do an internet search and verify your facts”???

From the NYT, quotes from the Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Leon Panetta and a mention of the Genva Convention:  The 1949 Geneva Conventions, which regulates armed conflict, prohibits degrading treatment of anyone who falls into enemy hands.American officials and military commanders moved quickly to condemn the behavior and contain the damage. On Thursday, the Pentagon said Defense Secretary Leon Panetta called Mr. Karzai and told him “the conduct depicted in the footage is utterly deplorable.” Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said: “Actions like those are not only illegal but are contrary to the values of a professional military.”

Then you weren’t paying attention.  There was lots of outrage.  And by what American value is behaving like a barbarian in response to barbarians a good thing.  If you’d like to behave like a Taliban member, move to Afganistan and do it there.

I have seen and heard outrage from people of every political persuasion over this. What American Value allows pissing on dead people?  This is not a political issue, but a moral one.  It is shameful behavior.  Unacceptable under any circumstance.  This is not an event that represents the best of America or the Marines.  ”The Few.  The Proud”?  Not these guys.

I agree with what you say, except for the part where you address conservatives.  I’m conservative, and there are plenty of others like me who do not support warmongering. :)

YEAH!! Cause pissing in a river, or on a demarcated line is EXACTLY like pissing on the dead bodies of our enemies!! WE’RE going to show those mooslums just how “CIVIL, and EXCAPTIONAL WE ARE!! Screw it if more kids get killed because of the propaganda generated by the video, and then by audio of fellow American’s condoning this wonderful ritual!! Why, they probably didn’t like that great video either, so THEY DESERVE TO DIE!! Grow some BALLS American’s!! We can be even nastier than the Taliban is!!
My brother who recently retired from 35 YEARS in service thinks that just cuz he saw a bunch of combat, got shot at, at none of HIS pantywaist “brother’s” REFUSED to act in this way that he’s somehow better than everyone else!! And he calls himself a devout Christian conservative, SHEESH!! Can you believe the gall??!!

/stop sickening sarcasm. You and others like Dana trying to make this a partisan issue are the ones who have NO RESPECT for our troops, and their lives. Putting their Brother’s in Arms in further danger could ONLY be condoned by people who completely disrespect our troops, or complete sociopaths who don’t hold a human life, of ANYONE, in more regard than a dead ant.
My PROUD VETERAN BROTHER, who has seen more than his share of fighting and death, feels as much disgust as I do for ANYONE who would condone this behavior-or try and justify it in ANY WAY!!
Our troops deserve MUCH more than this….

I’d counsel you (counselor?) not to get too full of yourself.

Much of what you call “nuance,” I’d call irrelevancy, or something less complimentary. I resist doing so (most of the time) because you are almost always civil to me. In my version of neutral principle, that compells me to be civil, too.

I call the war in Afghanistan a fraud not because I am antimilitary, but because I’m opposed to the inappropriate — let’s call it doomed — use of military force.

The Taliban did not attack us on 9/11. They are fellow travelers with Al Qaeda, but invading Afghanistan to topple them was a grossly fraudulent act (one of many by the Bush administration) that had nothing to do with either stopping terrorism or exacting justice. The ineptitude with which they pursued bin Laden at the time hardly argues that they were engaged in a serious antiterrorism mission.

Continuing the war with Karzai and his corrupt crew in Kabul is flatly stupid. But somehow, the Afghan flypaper, which has trapped every invading army since Alexander, has worked again. Even Obama, who certainly does not love the mission, has found it too hard to get out.

And so we continue to pay the price in blood, treasure, and our sacred honor, literally pissed away in the desert.

And I’d ask you: Where does the UCMJ derive its authority? From the civilian authority on which all US military operations are dependent. That is an absolutely essential point.

On another matter, you really don’t have to spoon-feed me your thoughts. I get them just fine. What you may not realize is that I reject much of what you say as just plain wrong. In picking out those “errors” that I choose to call you on, I have to leave a lot on the table.

And finally, Robert Bork is not regarded by most people as a very reliable judge of anything. I realize he has his champions, but most people who have heard of him and read some of his work dismiss him, rightly, as a rather nasty crank.

I’d counsel you (counselor?) not to get too full of yourself.

Much of what you call “nuance,” I’d call irrelevancy, or something less complimentary. I resist doing so (most of the time) because you are almost always civil to me. In my version of neutral principle, that compells me to be civil, too.

I call the war in Afghanistan a fraud not because I am antimilitary, but because I’m opposed to the inappropriate — let’s call it doomed — use of military force.

The Taliban did not attack us on 9/11. They are fellow travelers with Al Qaeda, but invading Afghanistan to topple them was a grossly fraudulent act (one of many by the Bush administration) that had nothing to do with either stopping terrorism or exacting justice. The ineptitude with which they pursued bin Laden at the time hardly argues that they were engaged in a serious antiterrorism mission.

Continuing the war with Karzai and his corrupt crew in Kabul is flatly stupid. But somehow, the Afghan flypaper, which has trapped every invading army since Alexander, has worked again. Even Obama, who certainly does not love the mission, has found it too hard to get out.

And so we continue to pay the price in blood, treasure, and our sacred honor, literally pissed away in the desert.

And I’d ask you: Where does the UCMJ derive its authority? From the civilian authority on which all US military operations are dependent. That is an absolutely essential point.

On another matter, you really don’t have to spoon-feed me your thoughts. I get them just fine. What you may not realize is that I reject much of what you say as just plain wrong. In picking out those “errors” that I choose to call you on, I have to leave a lot on the table.

And finally, Robert Bork is not regarded by most people as a very reliable judge of anything. I realize he has his champions, but most people who have heard of him and read some of his work dismiss him, rightly, as a rather nasty crank.

I may have once wrote to you that: “you have opinions, whereas I have conclusions.”

Your post above confirms this observation of mine as opinions tend to be based on emotion and caprice, while conclusions are made by ardent study and observation.  In fact, that is, perhaps the very essence of neutral principle, of which you reject.

As I recall, the issue of military justice wasn’t where it derived its authority, rather, that there is a more than adequate system place for military justice, extraneous from the civilian courts, as it should be.  We couldn’t very well have Berkley Liberals sitting in judgement over a combat Marine, accused of a battlefield crime, could we now?  LOL

As for Judge Bork, he finds “neutral principle” unworkable and disavows such?  Curious, isn’t it, that both the left and right are afraid of loosing their sacred cows, to be replaced with legitimate process?

Finally:  ”Literally pissed away.”  ”Flatly stupid” and “rather nasty crank”  Those are portions of opinions that a writer uses when he is weak on the subject matter.

Purveyor

Yep, now you’ve gotten full of yourself. It’s not pretty.

Self-congratulation of your “ardent study and observation,” without having a clue about anyone else’s “ardent study” is pathetic.

Yes, that is my opinion.

And like you (presumably) I form opinions by observation, conclusion, synthesis, and expression. What you seem to be missing here is that your “conclusions” are no more authoritative than anyone on this site. (In the main. Of course there are a lot of people who post on Mediatie who are dumb as posts. That’s another opinion.) What you call conclusions are, in fact, indistinguishable from opinions and frankly, just not that compelling.

My delicate liberal ego is impervious to your attempts to steamroller me based on your “more intellectually pure than thou” attitude because that attitude is silly, fusty, unsupported by the facts, and altogether precious.

I don’t know whose posts you have been reading, but I come down firmly on the side of the UCMJ — that’s the book they’re going to throw at these jerks, after all — and while I haven’t been inside the city limits of Berkeley for more than five years, I’m happy to accept the label of “Berkeley liberal” if that means something to you. And yes, as a civilian citizen of the United States, the military officials who try these people will be sitting in judgement over combat Marines, accused of a battlefield crime IN MY NAME.

And if you can’t see the aptness of “pissing away our sacred honor,” then you’re dead inside.

And that’s just sad.

My apologies as I did not notice your comment until now.  Well done and thank you as your point is sharp!

I accept, in fact, I demand more from an American Warrior than I could expect from any other Nation’s fighting men, meaning both ethically and pugilistic competence.  That being said, this incident does not rise to the point of demonstrating individual or systemic problems in the American military. (Although many are actively engaged in its diminution)

In fact, all this is, is another excuse for the Left to denigrate those who protect the same people, that criticize them.  Indeed, a curious paradox, if you will?

Purveyor

All of a sudden Jane Fonda came to mind?

Purveyor

I knew you weren’t name-calling.  I was just sounding off without being particularly responsive to anything you said.  “Pontificating” one might say.

You cannot seem to spell Muslim correctly or exceptional. What would you understand about symbolism? Infidel?

It is you leftist clowns who believe America is not so great, civil or “excaptional”, sweetpea. So why pretend anymore that war isn’t hell? And your mooslums think we are infidels anyway sweetpea. So why try to prove otherwise, again???

Even though we proffer rules of engagement that KILL our soldiers, we are always infidels. How do you change a brainwashed sheep??? With kindness, dumbass?

Under the Obama Administration, the rules of engagement in the Afghan War are extreme political correctness,
and this has brought well-earned criticism of the military’s
prosecution of the Afghan War from a very decorated source, Major
General Robert Scales. Imagine if you’re a Marine in Afghanistan,
charged with fighting terrorists, yet you can’t shoot at Taliban
terrorists unless you see them actually holding weapons in their hands!
If the Taliban terrorists only temporarily put their arms down, Marines
are forbidden from shooting at them! Imagine that you also can’t treat
the captured terrorists “roughly”-as in using “harsh” language against
them that may hurt their little, wittle, terrorist feelings-and that you
must release your terrorist foe after 96 hours if you don’t hand them
over to the Afghan police. Think this is a bad dream, a cruel joke or
simply a liberal’s wildest fantasy come true? Think again, for this is
actual war policy going on in Afghanistan right now under Obama…

…When even hardcore and committed, liberal outlets like the LA Times and
the AP start reporting on the US troops’ rightful gripes about the rules
of engagement under Obama, as well as their overall excessive
restrictiveness, then you know there’s a real problem that just
shouldn’t be.

Yes, because proving you are civil and “excaptional” to animals without a clue is sooooo important for the enlightened liberal.

http://voices.yahoo.com/under-obama-rules-engagement-afghan-war-are-5508545.html

And let’s just see how the liberals and their great government take care of American’s that are dead…With a bloated government bureaucracy and thieves at every level. Fro Barry’s own back yard that he “organized” so well. Even his millionaire, racist preacher ran off to a gated white community.

CHICAGO (STMW) – To the disgust of some staff,
bodies are piling up at the office of the Cook County Medical Examiner,
stacked atop each other in blue plastic tarps against a wall of the
storage cooler because of ongoing financial woes, the Sun-Times has
learned.

All the storage trays are full, and many have a second body on them,
according to sources in the office. Some 400 adults and about 100 babies
are currently being kept in the cooler designed for under 300, one
source said.

“There are so many bodies in there now, they can’t keep it cool
enough. The stench is like nothing I’ve ever seen,” another source in
the office said. “I think it’s sacrilegious.”

Medical Examiner Nancy Jones said “yes, we do” have a larger than normal number of bodies at the office.

“What we currently have in our cooler is somewhere around 300 bodies,” she said. “There is not twice that number.”

Jones said there is a backup in burials of babies because of a change
in a county ordinance. Last year, critics raised questions about the
remains of babies and fetuses — many who had died at birth or as a
result of miscarriage — being combined for burial. So county
commissioners changed the ordinance requiring the remains of babies and
fetuses be placed in separate compartments.

Can anyone point to any part of Illinois that Barry and his community organizing made better besides the lives of politicians, unions and thieves?

If you didn’t hear it, you were not listening!
You did hear it. You do remember it.
You are only trying to justify a lesser (much lesser) offense by our own troops.
There is no justification for any of those acts.

This is a totally screwed up war that we do not intend to win, ever. It is one very long campaign of retribution against the people who harbored Bin Laden.
We are caught in a cycle of revenge and counter-revenge, like the famous Hatfield and McCoy families.

I was drawn here by someone asking my opinion. I blame the attention this incident has gained on the fact that “untrained” people can take such videos now.

Imagine that this happened in WWIII. (You can be sure it did.) Movie cameras and still cameras were big, cumbersome things that only trained military personnel would lug around on the battlefield, and a big part of their training was about what NOT to photograph.

Then, there were censors who viewed every bit of film after it was developed and decided what should be shown to the public during the war and what should be stashed away in archives for after the war, and might never be shown to the public.

Do you think that WWII soldiers would dare to piss on the enemy’s bodies while a military photographer took pictures? Of course they would not. The reasons are obvious.

But, in these modern times, the Marines who did this smelly deed thought they would be in control of who saw the video, just like the teenagers who sent sex pictures from their cell phones trusted the people they sent pictures to. This means they weren’t thinking at all.

Is punishment appropriate, and if so, what punishment? A fine of one half of one month’s pay for all involved. A full month’s pay for the senior man present.

Done and done. No more need be said, EXCEPT that this thing became public and “viral.” That is a nightmare for the entire chain of command, and that is why I would not want to be a military spokesperson right now.

There is a difference between pissing on an object and pissing on a body.

All I know is, my great grandfather served in the military in WWI, my great uncle served in the Marines in the Pacific, my grandfather served more than 20 years in the Navy and was captain of a ship with a registered “kill” on a German sub, and my father served in the Air Force during Vietnam… and every single one of them would have been disgusted with the actions of these soldiers. 

It’s got nothing to do with whether they’re Taliban or anything else and it’s idiotic and dishonorable to say otherwise. We don’t aspire to act with nobility in war because of any honor we feel we owe our enemies. We aspire to act with nobility because of honor we’re supposed to feel for ourselves and the ideals we claim America stands for. 

You guys need a rest.  Seriously, a rest!

Is this woman as stupid as she sounds?    I suppose as a citizen of the united states she is thankful that we have laws that protect her right to speak her nonsense on the air.    Those same laws punish those that step outside the law, they also punish officials; whether they be politicians, policemen, even soldiers who get caught.   I wonder if this woman has ever been in a battle zone fighting for her life and wondering if she’ll ever make it back home alive?     I suppose she hasn’t, especially given the ease of her statements.    I wonder if she wouldn’t object to a sight showing Taliban urinating on american soldiers?     Most soldiers wouldn’t do this, their interest would be to get out of this thing with a whole skin.    This seems like a bunch of close buddies who probably had a leader who saw less warfare than his fellow marines and decided to perform this cowardly act on the dead.     They will be caught, and punished by the military code of conduct.    

EXPAT,

I showed our dialogue the other day to my trusted counselor and friend–my Mom. She is a retired Teacher and Librarian from Wisconsin and she now lives with me. She is 86. Having a Mom for Librarian tends to make one a reader, like it or not! LOL

She said, and I’ll paraphrase, that out of all the people you [meaning me] come up against in the Mediaite system, EXPAT is probably the most…expressive, capable, smart, etc. I can’t recall the exact the words but the point is she was/is favorably impressed with your writing. Furthermore, that the two of us discussing an issue brings the skill level up a bit for both of us.

Now I realize we are talking about commenting in Mediaite, but, when my Mom says somebody writes well, you can “bet the farm on it”! So, again, accept this compliment.

Also, she thinks you are a teacher of some sort. I hope all America’s teachers could be as articulate.

Sincerely

Purveyor

Perhaps OSux can join Teabgger Dana being peed on as well. Perhaps both OSux and ignorant angry white woman can enjoy it. I bet also if the Taliban peed on US soldiers both Teabagger Dana and OSux would have a hypocritical fit!

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/print.aspx?article=1190&locb&type=cbtp

I hope this address is correct?

Is an article written recently by Judge Bork, Who OPPOSES neutral principles. In fact, his repudiation of such is what got him “Borked” from consideration, all those years ago now.

Being a proponent of “applied philosophy,” I have taken the arcane legal theory and expounded upon it. Simply put, whether in a legal or societal context, “NP urges that one does not lie, cheat or steal, and doesn’t throw the bat when they strike out.”

In a Legal or Legislative setting, reason should always prevail over emotion, yet, coincidentally, satisfy the emotional/moral inclinations of a person or society. The process keeps us honest.

As a Liberal, you are quite reasonably concerned with maintaining a separation of church and state? SO AM I! Conversely, as a Conservative and Libertarian, I am concerned with MADD (mothers against drunk driving) slowly, but surely imposing THEIR will on my liberty…

NP, keeps both these hounds at bay by demanding reason carry the day when legislating and/or adjudicating law. Anyway, I deliberately sent you an article by a legal scholar who opposes NP (Bork) rather than by Judge Jaffe or Professor Wechsler who are proponents.

Respectfully, take your time with this, it may not be cluttered up with courtroom procedure, but, philosophy can be tedious? LOL

Purveyor

http://www.firstprinciplesjournal.com/print.aspx?article=1190&locb&type=cbtp

I hope this address is correct?

Is an article written recently by Judge Bork, Who OPPOSES neutral principles. In fact, his repudiation of such is what got him “Borked” from consideration, all those years ago now.

Being a proponent of “applied philosophy,” I have taken the arcane legal theory and expounded upon it. Simply put, whether in a legal or societal context, “NP urges that one does not lie, cheat or steal, and doesn’t throw the bat when they strike out.”

In a Legal or Legislative setting, reason should always prevail over emotion, yet, coincidentally, satisfy the emotional/moral inclinations of a person or society. The process keeps us honest.

As a Liberal, you are quite reasonably concerned with maintaining a separation of church and state? SO AM I! Conversely, as a Conservative and Libertarian, I am concerned with MADD (mothers against drunk driving) slowly, but surely imposing THEIR will on my liberty…

NP, keeps both these hounds at bay by demanding reason carry the day when legislating and/or adjudicating law. Anyway, I deliberately sent you an article by a legal scholar who opposes NP (Bork) rather than by Judge Jaffe or Professor Wechsler who are proponents.

Respectfully, take your time with this, it may not be cluttered up with courtroom procedure, but, philosophy can be tedious? LOL

Purveyor

Please thank your mother for her kind words. I do think of myself as a writer (although to put food on the family I work in media and community relations for a large engineering firm), and as someone famously said (although not famously enough, apparently) “writers only want three things: praise, praise, and praise.”

And I will gladly admit that sparring with you raises my game.

I’ve taken the path of least resistance in my recreational posting on this site (“tormenting wingnuts” is how I describe it to my wife), basically coming at people’s posts on the same road they were traveling on: if scurrilous nonsense, I slap ‘em down; if junkyard dog meanness, I out-mean them; and if thoughtful discourse, I try to outthink them.

I don’t get much of this last, and I appreciate that I get it from you.

And I don’t always win.

Nah they just did something not worth filming.

http://rt.com/usa/news/loesch-big-journalism-rt-919/

http://rt.com/usa/news/loesch-big-journalism-rt-919/

http://youtu.be/_KbQVtFU-4s

“HONOR” is a Primary Principle and prime virtue, is the feeling and
the expression of admiration, respect, or esteem accorded to another as a
right or as due. Honor refers to virtue, purity, a keen sense of
ethical conduct, and integrity. We honor God as Personality, but are
loyal to God as Principle. A Master learns Honor, and polishing ethics
and morals. “Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God” sets
the keynote of Honor to God above all things. Honour (or honor)
comprises the reputation, self-perception or moral identity of an
individual or of a group.

Be not ashamed of thy virtues; honor’s a good brooch to wear in a man’s hat at all times

Just to opine… pissing on dead people is wrong, especially the bodies of
those faced in battle & makes us and our military look bad. Puts
shame on the men and women who have died to preserve the American way,
and makes the American way look like the way of a bunch of immature
punks.

And
you’re putting our forces in harms way. You obviously have no respect
for yourselves or our troops that do their best to uphold the ideals of
the US constitution and America as a
whole. I mean seriously how can
you condone this, and then beg your masters for security, to assuage
your many many fears (get some backbone chicken little). And then have
the audacity to rely upon our troops to fight for you, when you are
clueless of how to support them. Not to
mention you’re probably the last person to sign up to fight for yourself, the poor victim.

If
you think it’s cool like Dana Loesch, well i must say you are a sad
case of hate, and i feel sorry if you have children cause i can only
imagine what they will grow into via
your stellar example….sheesh! Have you ever heard of being better than those
that you condemn? I mean, Otherwise you just condemn yourself by
default.

If you have ever been to war you would realize that
these are the things that degrade our troops security by losing the
hearts and minds of those we are trying to gain support from. Taking a
life is one of the hardest things you could ever imagine doing (at least
it was for me & hope it is for you), and it stays with you forever.
The only solace our troops have is that we did it for the right reason,
at least that is the only relief i have found, although the more you
realize the imperialistic motivation behind it you find yourself feeling
misguided and naive to the truth. And too often this type of thing
makes you feel as if, yes you are wrong, and yes you have killed people
for the wrong reasons. That really sucks for every troop out there who
is trying to reconcile their time at war with themselves, and the world
around them. We are better than this people!

And by better than this i mean just that. If you want security, if you want a volunteer
military, that will defend you, cause you are too afraid or unable to do
so yourself, then you better have some worthy ideals worth fighting
for. Or you will find yourself in a country where the majority of good
people (the ones that currently make up our armed forces) do not believe
enough in your cause to sign up and fight for you. And all i gotta say
is welcome to the draft… I know if this was the vision of the majority
of the military when i signed up, I never would have, and would not be
an inkling as proud to be an American as I currently am!

Just to opine… pissing on dead people is wrong, especially the bodies of
those faced in battle & makes us and our military look bad. Puts
shame on the men and women who have died to preserve the American way,
and makes the American way look like the way of a bunch of immature
punks.

And
you’re putting our forces in harms way. You obviously have no respect
for yourselves or our troops that do their best to uphold the ideals of
the US constitution and America as a
whole. I mean seriously how can
you condone this, and then beg your masters for security, to assuage
your many many fears (get some backbone chicken little). And then have
the audacity to rely upon our troops to fight for you, when you are
clueless of how to support them. Not to
mention you’re probably the last person to sign up to fight for yourself, the poor victim.

If
you think it’s cool like Dana Loesch, well i must say you are a sad
case of hate, and i feel sorry if you have children cause i can only
imagine what they will grow into via
your stellar example….sheesh! Have you ever heard of being better than those
that you condemn? I mean, Otherwise you just condemn yourself by
default.

If you have ever been to war you would realize that
these are the things that degrade our troops security by losing the
hearts and minds of those we are trying to gain support from. Taking a
life is one of the hardest things you could ever imagine doing (at least
it was for me & hope it is for you), and it stays with you forever.
The only solace our troops have is that we did it for the right reason,
at least that is the only relief i have found, although the more you
realize the imperialistic motivation behind it you find yourself feeling
misguided and naive to the truth. And too often this type of thing
makes you feel as if, yes you are wrong, and yes you have killed people
for the wrong reasons. That really sucks for every troop out there who
is trying to reconcile their time at war with themselves, and the world
around them. We are better than this people!

And by better than this i mean just that. If you want security, if you want a volunteer
military, that will defend you, cause you are too afraid or unable to do
so yourself, then you better have some worthy ideals worth fighting
for. Or you will find yourself in a country where the majority of good
people (the ones that currently make up our armed forces) do not believe
enough in your cause to sign up and fight for you. And all i gotta say
is welcome to the draft… I know if this was the vision of the majority
of the military when i signed up, I never would have, and would not be
an inkling as proud to be an American as I currently am!

Um, piss is sterile. I think they were just cleaning ‘em up a bit, out of respect, no doubt…

I just took a poll from the surrounding countryside, not repelled at all.

Several offered to do the same.