Recruitment tool – baloney .

If the prisoners were moved to Thompson , Illinois , it would immediately be called Guantanamo Bay North .

Obama is too preoccupied now to worry about his campaign promises . He’s now got the prospect of Jimmy McMillan running against him in 2012 .

Fact: Guantanamo will be used for many years to come. All people who didn’t elect this phony knew he was over his head! By the way who is the lame duck Czar in charge now? Truly the same is true with this tax and spend democrat that Rove sees with the facts that this guy was shellacked but he is a idiot that doesn’t believe it happened to him and his chances in 2012 are a big zero! No more spending for entitlements, Cut some more un-needed taxes on all and retire Ozerocare will turn all the problems around so revenue will pay us out of debt! Leave politics to republicans and leave the pot smoking to the democrats!

Hey Karl, I hear Simplistic And Frankly Ignorant statement coming out of Fox every single bloody day. Sometimes, most of the times worst.

Gitmo doesn’t recruit more terrorists, it makes the ones released even more committed

CNN: “A declassified document made public Tuesday showed that up to 25% of all former detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, subsequently engaged in terrorism or insurgency, but the percentage is much lower for those transferred under the Obama administration.”

But I sure Castro is fine with the United States sending him American tax-payer money to rent out Gitmo

Just4thefax said: Leave politics to republicans and leave the pot smoking to the democrats!

You republicans like Pat Robertson, Rush Limbaugh, George W Bush, Glenn Beck, and Gary Johnson? Oh wait, those aren’t republicans they’re marijuana advocates and drug addicts

Guantanamo doesn’t turn people into terrorists, it mainly just provides wonderful ocean side housing to people who aren’t terrorists in the first place. The HOA laws are a bitch though.

Not a surprise at all; BHO is a cretin.

SUPER Chundy said:
Gitmo doesn’t recruit more terrorists, it makes the ones released even more committed CNN: “A declassified document made public Tuesday showed that up to 25% of all former detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, subsequently engaged in terrorism or insurgency, but the percentage is much lower for those transferred under the Obama administration.” But I sure Castro is fine with the United States sending him American tax-payer money to rent out Gitmo

Yeah, thats why they should be kept there…or perhaps let them go swimming with the sharks.

If it were up to the liberals, they would all be released (thus killing our soldiers)

why shouldn’t Rove say it? it’s true–that is, it’s false to say what Obama said. why were they killing us before Gitmo opened? what was the excuse then?

the whole navel-gazing game of “why don’t they like us?” has gotten very old and tired. they DON’T like us. let’s start recognizing that and not committing suicide in the name of political correctness.

Rove is correct. I am shocked that anyone even the dumb libs here would try to refute it. Just shows how dumb the libs really are. That lib gene is devastating.

Scott_in_MI said:
If it were up to the liberals, they would all be released (thus killing our soldiers)

So was George W Bush a liberal for releasing 532 Gitmo detainees?

If it were up to liberals, they’d be prosecuted and jailed; not held indefinitely in Cuba acting as if we were Castro.

gordonbloyershow said:
Rove is correct. I am shocked that anyone even the dumb libs here would try to refute it. Just shows how dumb the libs really are. That lib gene is devastating.

Lliberal are dumb; Obama is dumb; Gitmo is dumb; the Gordon Blowhard Show is dumb; Gordon is dumb; [fill-in-the-blank] is dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb!

I should just start posting more comments like Gordon’s because they’re so insightful.

*sigh* i just hate people like Karl Rove coming into the whole political scene after spending soo much time wrecking the country. Its time we do away with these power hungry politicians, who come back for more power.

And as for Gitmo, Big Eddie, you are correct, Obama will just move everything up north. This shows that there is no difference between a dem and a repub these days… Both of them do the same things, just in different places..

Big Eddie said:
Recruitment tool – baloney .

If the prisoners were moved to Thompson , Illinois , it would immediately be called Guantanamo Bay North .

You are completely missing the point. Holding prisoners indefinitely without anything like due process is the recruitment tool , not the location.

Yeah, Obama exaggerated and Rove deals with it by blowing things out of proportion. Thanks for nothing Karl. Now go away.

cosmos just a question, are they criminals or prisoners of war? i dont lnow

SUPER Chundy said:
Lliberal are dumb; Obama is dumb; Gitmo is dumb; the Gordon Blowhard Show is dumb; Gordon is dumb; [fill-in-the-blank] is dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb! I should just start posting more comments like Gordon’s because they’re so insightful.

You would not understand any insights. Why try to give you any?

Everyone can view my latest video about the Obama Values, just like yours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x7WLL9vsP8

gordonbloyershow said:
Rove is correct. I am shocked that anyone even the dumb libs here would try to refute it. Just shows how dumb the libs really are. That lib gene is devastating.

It’s bizarre to read this sort of thing; as if the writer can’t imagine that people who vote democrat might not all be exactly the same person with the same intellectual capacity and the same reasons for everything they do.

The people who vote ‘democrat’ are actually a far, far more varied group than those who vote ‘republican’. This is because there’s a good chunk of democrat votes that are really ‘anything except the GOP votes’.

If the USA had a slightly different political system that encouraged more parties and broke the age-old 2-party duopoly that has ruined the country, then the democrats would get far fewer votes and a plethora of smaller parties would mop up. Of course the same is true of the GOP but to a much smaller extent.

Anyway, back to this article: Obama is only about 2 years behind the times. We can ignore the drivel Rove is spouting, even though he is correct that Gitmo’s influence as a recruitment tool has dropped significantly.

But the reason for this isn’t related to anything Rove drones on about. IN reality, it’s the heavily increased use of drones and the huge number of civilians that they kill that are now the primary recruiting tools for the terrorist groups.

This includes drones in Afghanistan that accidentally kill women and children by the dozen for every one insurgent who is killed. It also includes the CIA drones in Pakistan which the USA officially denies even using, which also kill far more civilians than terrorists.

I’m not 100% sure if the US is also using drones in Yemen, or if it’s only cruise missiles that are being sent in by the US. But drones or cruise, the amount of civilians deaths is still huge and surprisingly the locals really don’t like it very much.

In the case of Pakistan and Yemen, the issue of unnecessary civilian deaths is made even worse by the fact that the US won’t even admit they are doing it.

So, it’s these attacks right across the middle east that are now generating huge queues at the local Al-Queda recruitment office, while the continued incarceration of people at Gitmo isn’t as important as it used to be.

CosmosDan said:
Yeah, Obama exaggerated and Rove deals with it by blowing things out of proportion. Thanks for nothing Karl. Now go away

I don’t agree that this is a simple exaggeration. It has been a repeating theme from BHO et al for years now which begs the question of why no dearth of volunteer human bombs for decades now.

To use this “recruitment” meme as the driving force to close GITMO is simplistic and if it is a genuinely held belief childishly naive.

Blower…

You remind me of those cretins back when I was a kid…

Back then we called them “Birchers” as in the John Birch Society. Everyone, to them, was a commie, every President from FDR on had some hidden or open agenda about undermining the country.

I got really tired of shitheads like that back in those days. And here you are, a new gereration of the same old paranoid idiots. It must suck being you and it sucks reading your bullshit here.

By the way, there is no such thing as a “lib gene.”

You’re an ignorant blower, Blower

Taniwha said:
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cjd ohio 1 said:
cosmos just a question, are they criminals or prisoners of war? i dont lnow

I think neither. The war against terrorism does create some new problems that we have to deal with since it’s not against a national uniformed enemy. I believe the term used is enemy combatants

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_combatant

My problem with it is holding people indefinitely without any process, legal or military , to determine whether they are guilty of anything. It isn’t just men taken in actual combat but people accused of supporting terrorist, or, resistance forces. Does a country that talks of justice and liberty throw men in jail for ten years without some effort to see if they are guilty of anything.

I do believe Obama exaggerated with the number one remark, but Gitmo, and the clear injustice of how it operates, does feed the ongoing resentment and distrust among ME Muslims and Muslims in general. IMO to try and keep from feeding that hatred and resentment to future generations of Muslims we must defend ourselves without violating our own principles and concepts of justice.

Grammie said:
To use this “recruitment” meme as the driving force to close GITMO is simplistic and if it is a genuinely held belief childishly naive.

I think it was more of a political statement although Obama would likely not admit that our continued military actions in Afghanistan are close to the top. I think it’s up to us, the public, to drive that point home.

Ignorant? Rove should talk. Wasn’t he the Architect of pretty much the destruction of the Republican Party?
I have to admit I laugh my balls off everytime I hear Pawn Vannity call him the Architect.

I wouldn’t let that guy be an Architect in the building of a Dog House.

Taniwha said:
In the case of Pakistan and Yemen, the issue of unnecessary civilian deaths is made even worse by the fact that the US won’t even admit they are doing it.

Let me see if I have this brilliant thinking correct, when civilians are accidently killed by our military, Muslums are upset. However when civilians are killed ON PURPOSE by the terrorists, Muslums don’t get upset?
Hmmmmmmmm? Well that is the thinking of the “Hate America First” crowd. Anyone with a brain might just find that thinking total NONSENSE.

puck30 said:
Ignorant? Rove should talk. Wasn’t he the Architect of pretty much the destruction of the Republican Party?I have to admit I laugh my balls off everytime I hear Pawn Vannity call him the Architect. I wouldn’t let that guy be an Architect in the building of a Dog House.

Nobody should let you have a dog.

Michael Charles said:
By the way, there is no such thing as a “lib gene.”

That lib gene is getting too you isn’t it. You do have it. It is a mental condition.

Scientists Find ‘Liberal Gene’
Study conducted by researchers at UCSD, Harvard
By ERIC S. PAGE
Updated 5:16 PM PDT, Wed, Oct 27, 2010
Researchers have determined that genetics could matter when it comes to some adults’ political leanings.
According to scientists at UC San Diego and Harvard University, “ideology is affected not just by social factors, but also by a dopamine receptor gene called DRD4.”
The study was led by UCSD’s James Fowler and focused on 2,000 subjects from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. Scientists matched the subjects’ genetic information with “maps” of their social networks. According to researchers, they determined that people “with a specific variant of the DRD4 gene were more likely to be liberal as adults.” However, the, subjects were only more likely to have leanings to the left if they were also socially active during adolescence.

Taniwha said:
In the case of Pakistan and Yemen, the issue of unnecessary civilian deaths is made even worse by the fact that the US won’t even admit they are doing it.

Let me see if the following story will make Muslims mad at the terrorists?

KHAR, Pakistan – A female suicide bomber detonated her explosives-laden vest killing at least 41 people at an aid distribution center in northwestern Pakistan on Saturday while army helicopter gunships and artillery killed a similar number of Islamic militants in neighboring tribal regions near the Afghan border, officials said.

The bombing appeared to be the first suicide attack staged by a woman in Pakistan, and it underscored the resilience of militant groups in the country’s tribal belt despite ongoing military operations against them.

The President is right. Whatever goes on at Gitmo is irrelevant. In the minds of those who wish to exploit its existence, Gitmo produces martyrs to the cause. If you were/are incarcerated at Gitmo, you are a walking hero, the focal point of interest for the Great Satan. Who else can lay claim to such heroism, such selfless devotion to the cause than those who are being tortured by Satan and his imps right now!

Why the hell would this ignorant president give a rats-ass whether or not Muslim terrorists would use Git-mo? The Muslim thugs will use any manufactured excuse they can and exploit it to their advantage. The only thing these Muslim terrorist understand is strength of purpose, and we demonstrate that by upping the radical Muslim body-count. They want martyrs, let’s give them what they want.