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Keith Olbermann Predicts Glenn Beck’s Descent Into Oblivion (In Homemade Video Clip)

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In a videotaped “First Guess” segment for his Fok News Channel, future Current TV tentpole Keith Olbermann taunted departing Fox News tentpole Glenn Beck with a dramatic reading from A Face in the Crowd, from which Beck’s “Lonesome Rhodes” nickname derives. Along the way, though, Olbermann offered his own insight into Beck’s coming departure from FOX, revealed some information about his upcoming show, and displayed the kind of hubris that is the hallmark of either the truly gifted, or the truly narcissistic (or both!)

Olbermann opens the video with the most interesting assessment that I’ve seen, outside of this website. While many have tried to claim Beck’s scalp, based on the available information, it appears that Beck may not have exactly been pushed, nor that he jumped, but more likely a combination of the two. Or as Roger Ailes claimed to the AP “Half of the headlines say he’s been canceled, the other half say he quit,” adding “we’re pretty happy with both of them.”

Olbermann’s insight is that, in acknowledging it, he must relinquish his own credit for Beck’s undoing, and that of Media Matters and Stop Beck (also of Media Matters). That’s some uncharacteristic humility right there.

He does take credit, if only jokingly, for the recent trend of high-profile TV departures, both real and rumored, but draws the distinction that “I will be back!”

Then, Olbermann goes into tempting fate mode by reading a long passage from A Face in the Crowd in which Walter Matthau‘s character predicts Lonesome Rhodes’ gradual descent into oblivion, and calling it a prediction of Beck’s future. The problem is, the soliloquy could as easily apply to Olbermann. He and Beck are on remarkably similar paths, and Beck arguably has a head start, at least in audience size.

When Olbermann talks about Beck possibly overestimating the size and loyalty of his following, he could as easily have been quoting his former colleague, David Shuster, who theorized that Olbermann’s departure was aided by a strong following that “mesmerized” him. When he wonders if Beck’s fans will know where to find him, Olbermann seems unaware of the fact that his show is going to be on Current TV. I literally watch C-Span 3 more than I watch Current.*

If Olbermann’s Current TV show ends up a failure, Beck, wherever he is, will surely replay this clip:


On the other hand, maybe Olbermann really is just that good. One advantage he enjoys over Beck is a much emptier niche. Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.

As you can see, Olbermann also revealed some more details about his show, and with them, perhaps some more insight into his own departure from MSNBC. He says of his impending Current TV program that it will be the “same show, same time.” I don’t know if that means it will actually be called Countdown with Keith Olbermann, but it does confirm something I’ve suspected since Olbermann left MSNBC.

Several weeks ago, I asked MSNBC for some details on Olbermann’s departure, specifically why the network had chosen not to continue Countdown, a very successful brand, with a different host. I also wondered if Olbermann had negotiated rights to the intellectual property from the show. They refused to comment, but visitors to FOK News know that, shortly thereafter, Olbermann resurrected his signature “Special Comment” and “Worst Persons” segment for web-only video.

That tells me that, whoever initiated the split, Olbermann must have had significant leverage over MSNBC in order to waltz away with a big chunk of change, the rights to his show’s intellectual property, and the ability to be on TV in a scant few months. Either they really wanted him out of that contract, or he made them really want him out of that contract.

For what it’s worth, I think both Olbermann and Beck will succeed, but Beck’s will be the harder success to judge. Just like MC Hammer was considered a failure when his 2nd album only sold 2 kajillion copies, instead of 12, Beck will be judged against the enormity of his former success.

Olbermann isn’t as sure a bet as Beck, but promises a bigger payoff if he wins. Worst case scenario is he’ll be the biggest star on Current, and wind up feuding with Rachael Ray to get attention. The best case, however, is that he turns Current TV into a huge success, and they build a liberal answer to Fox News around him. By this time in 2013, President Palin could be telling reporters that Current TV is not a legitimate news organization.

*To be fair, I only found out tonight which channel I get Current TV on. Here’s a handy list for you, in case you’re not sure. And before you even ask, no, I have no gorram idea what AT&T U-Verse is. Sounds like a big orange-and-white Bible you can rent for twenty bucks.

DIRECTV channel 358

Comcast channel 107

Time Warner Cable 103 NY and 142 LA

DISH Network channel 196

VERIZON FiOS channel 192

AT&T U-Verse channel 189

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  • screwauger

    even then, Beck would be more popular than this partisan hack!

  • Cancon2

    I am surprised he didn’t film it from his bathtub. How much did he pay for the write up?

  • Liberal Tormentor

    You’re projecng Keith. Just because everyone has forgotton about you (except your loyal sidekick Tommy), doesn’t mean that will happen to Beck. He’s WAY more popular than you ever were and will be just fine.

    ps, How much does Keith pay you for PR, Tommy? You seem to highlight his every move.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    The irony, the delicious irony…

  • Big Eddie

    “One advantage he enjoys over Beck is a much emptier niche. Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.

    You nailed it Tommy . There are so few liberals in the media one would be hard pressed to name any at all .

  • Judge Mental

    Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.

    Now, THAT’S funny. There’s exactly one channel that features conservatives, and how many that feature liberals? I guess if you’re referring only to those who openly acknowledge their political leanings, there’s not such a large gap, but it’s downright absurd to think that conservative “media figures” outnumber liberals by a significant margin.

  • Judge Mental

    Big Eddie said:
    “One advantage he enjoys over Beck is a much emptier niche. Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.

    You nailed it Tommy . There are so few liberals in the media one would be hard pressed to name any at all .

    Beat me to it….

  • Barack Must Go

    That was just sad. Olbermann giving an autobiagrphical recounting of his own miserable life projected onto his hero Glenn Beck sums up the life and times of a liberal loser. Even the empty suit look, wearing clothes that are obviosly much bigger than the crumpled, broken man within.

    He’ll be back alright, too bad it will just be in what’s left of HIS simple mind.

  • BadGenome

    Keith Olberwho?

  • Republitarian

    Who’s Keith Olbermann?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    ““One advantage he enjoys over Beck is a much emptier niche. Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.”

    A small pond? How is a dozen networks, most print media and Hollywood a “small pond of liberal figures”? The right has ONE network for fuck sake! Just to name a few liberals in the media:

    -Dylan Ratigan
    -O’Donnell
    -Matthews
    -Schultz
    -Maddow
    -Brezinski
    -That Turkish nut job

    I’m sure there is some I’m missing, but that’s just MSNBC.

    -Wolf blizter
    -Jon king
    -Anderson Cooper
    -Elliot Spizter
    -Christiane Amanpour
    -Howard Kurtz

    In fact just about everyone at CNN is pretty obviously an active Democrat. How about the other networks?

    -Matt Lauer
    -Terry Gross
    -E. J. Dionne
    -Robert Rich
    -Joe Klein
    -Alex Witt
    -Norah O’Donnell
    -Contessa Brewer

    I could go on and on, but you get the point. This “story” is another Timothy Christopher propaganda piece for the left.
    -

  • Yukon Jack

    Now, there’s a hoot!!!

    The nobody who was obscure wherever he polluted the airwaves, predicting obscurity for someone else??

  • cjd ohio 1

    beck has further to fall? well of course, he was a sucess, olbermann doesn’t have far to fall, he has always been a failure

  • got a grip

    Judge Mental said:
    Beat me to it….

    Isn’t lib bias a fascinating thing? Tommy literally believes this.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    My favorite part of the clip is Olbermann informing us he is in NYC…
    Compared to his Rockefeller Center studio… the penthouse video production value is slightly better than an AFV pinata clip and almost as amusing…

  • Yukon Jack

    “On the other hand, maybe Olbermann really is just that good. One advantage he enjoys over Beck is a much emptier niche. Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.”

    This idiocy might just prompt any normal person to boycott the author.

  • Obeezy

    “Worst case scenario is he’ll be the biggest star on Current, and wind up feuding with Rachael Ray to get attention.”

    Thats like saying he the deadest guy in a cemetary.. And hell compete with the skeletons to see who is deader
    funnt stuff Tommy funny stuff

  • Scott_in_MI

    I’d listen to Olbermann o this one.. If anyone knows about quickly descending in oblivion, it’s him.

  • notsofast

    KO has already made his trip to oblivion.

  • jerrybobphil

    Doesn’t Beck still has a radio show? And wasn’t part of the deal was to continue to do “specials” from time to time on the Fox News Channel?

  • TfT

    LOL at Tommy; what an Olberloon suck up; even giving out the channels where you can find his upcoming show?

    LOL

    Free advertising for Olbermann found here at mediatie by Olberman’s number one fan and suck-up,. one Tommy Christopher.

    Oh so funny.

  • Barack Must Go

    TfT said:
    LOL at Tommy; what an Olberloon suck up; even giving out the channels where you can find his upcoming show?

    LOL

    Free advertising for Olbermann found here at mediatie by Olberman’s number one fan and suck-up,. one Tommy Christopher.

    Oh so funny.

    At least he didn’t name drop this time by starting out with ” my friend ” Keith Olbermann.

  • Davo

    Olbermann knows all about oblivion. He lives in it full-time. Beck was put on FOX News Channel BECAUSE he was already popular. Anti-Americans are fantasizing that previous popularity will somehow disappear, while people like Olbermann actually do disappear.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    What in the hell would these guys obsess about if it wasn’t for
    FOX News and Glenn Beck?
    Oh, wait a minute, I forgot about “Tingles’ and his obsession!

  • got a grip

    I think he should continue to do all of his “analysis” in the third person like last week…. would give it some extra gravitas and credibility not that it needs it.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    The MC Hammer analogy was brilliant/////////////////////////////////////////////////////

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hollis-Green/100002251721366 Hollis Green

    Do you actually proofread your copy before posting? Among the numerous errors, here is one hint, ‘coontract’ is spelled “contract”.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Drontek, I had the same trouble yesterday when I was trying to post a comment. I had to post it 4 times before it showed up. Peculiar indeed.

  • slickerwick

    Why do you choose to write about this has-been? Is there nothing else of importance happening in the world of media? Why your fixation with this misogynistic hatemonger?

  • writer

    Like a guy who always rode the bench laughing at Roger Staubach for no longer playing football.

  • ChrisNH

    Olbermann; what a limp-wrist. “Heh-heh…I’m wearing librarian glasses, so you can’t hit me..heh-heh.”

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    You’re projecng Keith. Just because everyone has forgotton about you (except your loyal sidekick Tommy), doesn’t mean that will happen to Beck. He’s WAY more popular than you ever were and will be just fine. ps, How much does Keith pay you for PR, Tommy? You seem to highlight his every move.

    How wonderously petty you are, as always, Michelle-in-Utah. Your ODS is acute, as always, Michelle-in-Utah. I guess where Mr. Olbermann has it over O’Beckerhead is that his canning was the result of a network acting responsibly whilst O’Beckerhead’s was the reult of a amazingly successful advertiser boycott, Michelle-in-Utah.

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Drontek, I had the same trouble yesterday when I was trying to post a comment. I had to post it 4 times before it showed up. Peculiar indeed.

    Paranoid, as usual, Michelle-in-Utah.

  • Tommy Christopher

    slickerwick said:
    Why do you choose to write about this has-been? Is there nothing else of importance happening in the world of media? Why your fixation with this misogynistic hatemonger?

    It’s a big media world out there. And just as Olbermann wishing Beck into oblivion won’t make it so, neither will your wish for Olbermann. Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Drontek, I had the same trouble yesterday when I was trying to post a comment. I had to post it 4 times before it showed up. Peculiar indeed.

    Dontek, yesterday I was at a traffic control signal, sometimes referred to as a red light. For an entire cycle, I didn’t get a green light, indicating that I might proceed. Peculiar, indeed.

  • Bobomatic

    He kinda looks like Uncle Olby, the pervert next door who hands out candy to little girls… but thats another story… as far as still being a major media figure… by who’s standard? Geesh.

  • notsofast

    Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.”

    LMAO

    Oh my, what a completely untrue comment! Only in TC’s world and in the world of dementia is KO such a thing.

    But I do like KO’s new “serial killer” glasses.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Just like the liberal media would have nothing to talk about without FOX, Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh, the Royal Dimwit would be equally lost without me and Sara.

  • Pablo

    In other news, Rosie O’Donnell predicts Ann Coulter becoming fat and ugly.

  • jo hoochie

    His NO news show should be called ” As I make your stomach churn” What a Jerk!!

  • Tommy Christopher

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Drontek, I had the same trouble yesterday when I was trying to post a comment. I had to post it 4 times before it showed up. Peculiar indeed.

    There are a number of factors that can cause a comment to go into moderation. Too many links, certain words, etc.

  • jo hoochie

    Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.
    I don’t think so! Who will be watching? Not many if any after the first few shows.

  • THE REAL ROYAL KING

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Just like the liberal media would have nothing to talk about without FOX, Beck, Palin, and Limbaugh, the Royal Dimwit would be equally lost without me and Sara.

    The liberal media seem to have been talking about a number of engaging and important issues last night, and I am not at all sure I heard a single mention of FOX “News”, O’Beckerhead, the Drop Out Governor or Lard Limbaugh. Similarly, over the weekend I spoke much of tomato varieties, blackberry cultivation, deep drip irrigation and other matters. I’m not sure that either you, Michelle-in-Utah, or Tumbleweed were at all mentioned, unless you were to count the compost discussion.

    PBS has had the most fascinating and enjoyable programming the last several evenings:

    On Sunday, “Cuba: The Accidental Eden”. A wondrous look at Cuban sea and shore life and how whilst the rest of the Gulf has been ravished by unplanned and unregulated growth and development, cuasing great harm to wildlife, Cuba escaped the initial development due to economic stagnation, but that now that Cuba is in a development boom, environmental lessons were learned and species are being protected.

    Also on Sunday, “Upstairs, Donwstairs” new series, the sequel, began. The title says it all.

    Last night, a most informative piece on Herbert Hoover’s Russian Famine relief efforts in the 1920′s, in great detail, including interviewers with survivors and the children of survivors throughout the Volga Valley, including Muslim areas, and the wondrous residual good will it created. Stories are actually passed from generation-to-generation about America’s good will.

    So, yes, as you can see, I thought only of you and Tumbleweed.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.

    ?!

  • writer

    I always make up cute nicknames for people I never think about.

  • Tommy Christopher

    jo hoochie said:
    Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.
    I don’t think so! Who will be watching? Not many if any after the first few shows.

    That’s entirely possible. Also possible that Olbermann is right about Beck. We won’t really know until we know.

    But the idea that a media website shouldn’t cover one or the other of them is ludicrous. It’s also self-contradictory, claiming that there’s no interest in a subject that you are in the act of typing commentary about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    TC: Can you explain what you meant by “small pool of liberals in the media”? They very clearly dominate the media by a large margin. Are you being intentionally deceitful, or do you actually believe that liberals or left wingers are a minority in the media?

  • Jaurez

    “This is Keith Olbermann reporting from oblivian. Great thanks.”

  • jerrybobphil

    “he’s still a major media figure.” Where is this? He’s not on radio or TV the only place I ever see any of his comments is on this site. He has dropped to a channel that months later your still looking up where it is. Beck may fall but its going to be tough to fall that far.

  • Pablo

    Tommy Christopher said:
    That’s entirely possible. Also possible that Olbermann is right about Beck. We won’t really know until we know.

    That’s highly unlikely. Beck owns enough of his own successful platforms to do whatever he wants, and it isn’t going to be the least bit difficult for his audience to find him. Current TV, not so much. There are enormous areas of the country in which you can’t get it without a dish.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    Tommy Christopher said:
    But the idea that a media website shouldn’t cover one or the other of them is ludicrous. It’s also self-contradictory, claiming that there’s no interest in a subject that you are in the act of typing commentary about.

    I think many of the comments are about you, TC…

  • writer

    Keith’s plan was to stay at the bottom, so he wouldn’t have so far to fall.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    It’s a big media world out there. And just as Olbermann wishing Beck into oblivion won’t make it so, neither will your wish for Olbermann. Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.

    this i disagree with you on tommy, he was a major media figure, not now, he was demoted to the minors, he has to work his way back up to the major leagues

  • BatBoy

    Headline: “Keith Olbermann Predicts Glenn Beck’s Descent Into Oblivion …”

    If there is anyone who knows about “Descending into Oblivion” it would be KO. He knows personally what he is talking about.

  • Pablo

    Big Eddie said:
    “One advantage he enjoys over Beck is a much emptier niche. Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.”

    You nailed it Tommy . There are so few liberals in the media one would be hard pressed to name any at all .

    That’s why Air America is such a success. A very empty niche.

  • slickerwick

    Tommy Christopher said:
    It’s a big media world out there. And just as Olbermann wishing Beck into oblivion won’t make it so, neither will your wish for Olbermann. Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.

    In you head “he’s still a major media figure.” But then, I guess that’s where you reside rather than in the world of reality where bloviators are as replaceable as light bulbs.

  • lonestar77

    “Beck will be competing with a teeming ocean of conservative media figures, while Olbermann will swim a very small pond of liberal figures on TV.”

    Are you saying there are more conservatives on TV than liberals? Surely you’re not cuz that’d be a wee bit crazy.

    Olbermann has to know how absurd it is to attack someone else as irrelevant from the confines of an abandoned office building in NYC. Honestly, how many people would even know about this if mediaite hadn’t covered it? How many people would still think anything about Olby if Mediaite didn’t hang on his every word? Olby is a hate-filled, verbal assassin. Like most liberals, he really has nothing else.

  • ChiliPeppersFan

    great story tommy as we can always count on you to research all aspects of a story (like the one you did on those t-shirts at the arizona rally).
    ya know if i was delivered the wrong way in birth and i happened to have be a conservative or a fake libertarian, i would probably be a fan of beck’s, both he and ko do a good job with witty comparisons of politics and popular culture (although i think ko is a little more biting in his humor)
    beck seems to have a nack of creating his cult like following by presenting his skewed views in a kind of secret between him and his fans that only they understand…i guess that’s no secret though.
    but yeah, i bet there is a bizarro cpf somewhere who enjoys watching beck.

  • Patrick

    Tommy Christopher said:
    and they build a liberal answer to Fox News around him. By this time in 2013, President Palin could be telling reporters that Current TV is not a legitimate news organization.

    Yeah, something tells me that ain’t gonna happen.

  • Jerps

    Mediate is really the only place I ever hear about KO anymore. I’m sure he appreciates your promotions of him, trying to keep him relevant, but Beck still has his hit radio show, I’d wager he’ll still make O’Reilly appearances, his books, The Blaze… But then, KO’s MO has always been to personally attack people more successful than him.

  • felixw

    Beck will continue to have a huge following. And here is why. Glenn Beck has a following due to his principles and ideals — which are identical to the principles and values on which this nation was founded. Whereas the only principles that Olbermann consistently has backed are mud-slinging, insulting people who disagree with him, and running away from debate and dialogue at every point in his career. So it’s easy to see which one of these two will continue to inspire and gain followers even without a nightly platform on cable TV.

    The very fact that Olbermann is taking pot shots at Beck, and not the other way around, tells you everything you need to know about these two people. Half of Olbermann’s punditry is driven by envy against those who had higher ratings than him, hence his endless obsession with Bill O’Reilly, who spanked Keith in the ratings every night for years and years.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    I can stand on my front porch and garner more viewers than Current TV…

  • got a grip

    Serious question for Tommy Christopher (or anyone at Mediaite): What is the policy and process for selecting article subjects and editorial support? Several here have jokingly asked ‘how much is Olbermann paying you for the publicity?” Acknowledging it is unlikely, I am nevertheless not sure multi-millionaire Olbermann is not slipping you something for this…. Publishing the obscure channels where he can be reached? Are you kidding me?

  • notsofast

    MSNBC KOed KO!

  • Barack Must Go
  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    It’s a big media world out there. And just as Olbermann wishing Beck into oblivion won’t make it so, neither will your wish for Olbermann. Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    this i disagree with you on tommy, he was a major media figure, not now, he was demoted to the minors, he has to work his way back up to the major leagues

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    got a grip said:
    Serious question for Tommy Christopher (or anyone at Mediaite): What is the policy and process for selecting article subjects and editorial support? Several here have jokingly asked ‘how much is Olbermann paying you for the publicity?” Acknowledging it is unlikely, I am nevertheless not sure multi-millionaire Olbermann is not slipping you something for this…. Publishing the obscure channels where he can be reached? Are you kidding me?

    a pile of sh*t is a tough sell…

  • Tommy Christopher

    got a grip said:
    Serious question for Tommy Christopher (or anyone at Mediaite): What is the policy and process for selecting article subjects and editorial support? Several here have jokingly asked ‘how much is Olbermann paying you for the publicity?” Acknowledging it is unlikely, I am nevertheless not sure multi-millionaire Olbermann is not slipping you something for this…. Publishing the obscure channels where he can be reached? Are you kidding me?

    That’s a seriously insulting premise, and a stupid one, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Olbermann hates this site, and me in particular. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s part of our beat, nor does it affect the type of coverage we give him. Fox News hates me too, but I’m still fair to them.

    The people on this thread who made such comments either didn’t read the article very carefully, or are extremely humor-challenged. The inclusion of the channel chart, for example, underscores the relative obscurity of his new gig, doesn’t it?

    As for the selection of subject matter for stories, about 99% of my stories are self-assigned, but I’m probably an anomaly in that regard. This site is extremely efficient at getting out the very latest media stories, so I often have to look pretty hard for something we’ve missed.

  • Tommy Christopher

    Dronetek said:
    TC: Can you explain what you meant by “small pool of liberals in the media”? They very clearly dominate the media by a large margin. Are you being intentionally deceitful, or do you actually believe that liberals or left wingers are a minority in the media?

    I’m referring to self-identified liberals, of which there are precious few that have any influence. Apart from MSNBC’s primetime lineup, who else is there? And from the way conservative commenters around here tell it, they don’t even count. You can’t have it both ways. They’re either irrelevant, or they’re running everything. It can’t be both.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    That’s a seriously insulting premise, and a stupid one, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Olbermann hates this site, and me in particular. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s part of our beat, nor does it affect the type of coverage we give him. Fox News hates me too, but I’m still fair to them. The people on this thread who made such comments either didn’t read the article very carefully, or are extremely humor-challenged. The inclusion of the channel chart, for example, underscores the relative obscurity of his new gig, doesn’t it? As for the selection of subject matter for stories, about 99% of my stories are self-assigned, but I’m probably an anomaly in that regard. This site is extremely efficient at getting out the very latest media stories, so I often have to look pretty hard for something we’ve missed.

    a major media figure with a relative obscure gig, doesn’t make much sense really.

  • Tommy Christopher

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    Tommy Christopher said:
    It’s a big media world out there. And just as Olbermann wishing Beck into oblivion won’t make it so, neither will your wish for Olbermann. Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.
    cjd ohio 1 said:
    this i disagree with you on tommy, he was a major media figure, not now, he was demoted to the minors, he has to work his way back up to the major leagues

    Wishing doesn’t make it so. The traffic from this post belies the repeated suggestions in this thread that nobody cares.

  • writer

    So since Cronkite, Rather, Couric, Jennings, Brokaw, etc. didn’t identify themselves as liberals, it was anyone’s guess where they stood.

  • got a grip

    Tommy, I apologize for raising the question… knew he hated this site, did not know it included you. I am left wondering why you cover him so thoroughly when he is largely now ignored elsewhere. Also would appreciate your response about conservatives in the media. Do you really believe they outnumber liberals?

  • Tommy Christopher

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    a major media figure with a relative obscure gig, doesn’t make much sense really.

    Well, we’ll see very soon if Olbermann elevates the gig, or if the gig sinks Olbermann. That’s kind of the whole point of this article.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Wishing doesn’t make it so. The traffic from this post belies the repeated suggestions in this thread that nobody cares.

    not wishing anything, but if you are playing in the minors, he is a B player now

  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, we’ll see very soon if Olbermann elevates the gig, or if the gig sinks Olbermann. That’s kind of the whole point of this article.

    exactly, he has to work his way back up to be a major media figure

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    Tommy Christopher said:
    I’m referring to self-identified liberals, of which there are precious few that have any influence.

    ?!

    Excluding paid consultants… (like your BFF Erikson)
    Name one Conservative on CNN…
    or
    Name someone on CNN you believe did not vote for Obama…

  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, we’ll see very soon if Olbermann elevates the gig, or if the gig sinks Olbermann. That’s kind of the whole point of this article.

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    exactly, he has to work his way back up to be a major media figure

    dan rather was a major media figure, but not so much now with his HDnet gig now

  • Tommy Christopher

    got a grip said:
    I am left wondering why you cover him so thoroughly when he is largely now ignored elsewhere.

    Well, we cover many aspects of the media that others do not. It’s a big part of why we’re successful. People can go anywhere to read what everybody is writing about. I try especially hard to write things you won’t see elsewhere. It’s why I pass on a lot of “big” stories, because if I don’t have anything new to say about it, I generally won’t bother.

    Also, to be fair, there is a great amount of interest in Olbermann from key blocs of our readership, particularly other media figures, and from liberals. It can be tough to tell from the comments sometimes, but we have a very diverse readership.

  • Tommy Christopher

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    exactly, he has to work his way back up to be a major media figure

    Well, then I don’t know what your argument is. Olbermann left Countdown as a top ratings draw in his field, and his next gig hasn’t started yet. There will be tremendous interest in it. His status as a media figure is, at worst, an unknown.

    If you’re just arguing the accuracy of the subjective phrase “major media figure,” I guess we just disagree. If your argument is that we shouldn’t be covering him, you’re just wrong.

  • writer

    At least Olbermann is consistent. He’s still complaining about Beck.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Olbermann left Countdown as a top ratings draw in his field,

    ?!

  • Barack Must Go

    Tommy Christopher said:
    That’s a seriously insulting premise, and a stupid one, for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that Olbermann hates this site, and me in particular. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s part of our beat, nor does it affect the type of coverage we give him. Fox News hates me too, but I’m still fair to them.

    The people on this thread who made such comments either didn’t read the article very carefully, or are extremely humor-challenged. The inclusion of the channel chart, for example, underscores the relative obscurity of his new gig, doesn’t it?

    As for the selection of subject matter for stories, about 99% of my stories are self-assigned, but I’m probably an anomaly in that regard. This site is extremely efficient at getting out the very latest media stories, so I often have to look pretty hard for something we’ve missed.

    So that’s how it works. If somthing or someone sends a tingle up your leg, we’ll be the first ( well after youself of course ) to know about it.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, then I don’t know what your argument is. Olbermann left Countdown as a top ratings draw in his field, and his next gig hasn’t started yet. There will be tremendous interest in it. His status as a media figure is, at worst, an unknown. If you’re just arguing the accuracy of the subjective phrase “major media figure,” I guess we just disagree. If your argument is that we shouldn’t be covering him, you’re just wrong.

    it was just the phrase major media figure, but its cool, that is just your opinion

  • cjd ohio 1

    well and he was fired

  • http://www.mediaite.com/tv/glenn-beck-explains-how-the-unions-are-using-teachers-firefighters-and-co ImNotBlue

    I think the folks saying KO doesn’t have a place on this site are wrong. He is a (former) pundit, talking about a current (for now) pundit, framed in cable news. It does make sense.

    Furthermore, TC is a Liberal, so he sees things from the Liberal side. As he says above, his comment about “no Liberals outside of MSNBC” isn’t about hosts who agree with him, but personalities who openly agree and advocate the audience do the same. There is a difference! While Big Ed will say, “The Republicans are ruining the world!” a more mainstream host may say, “Democrats are now working to prevent further damage, but not everyone agrees with their methods. We spoke with…” and so on. One hints at the problem, and frames it in a less “beat you over the head kind of way,” while the other doesn’t sugar coat anything. That’s the difference TC (IMO) is talking about.

    But back to Mediaite and this story… the real complaint (again, IMO) is that this isn’t a “TV” story, as KO isn’t on television anymore. It’s an “Online” story. However, the TV section gets more hits, so stories like this get placed there. That wouldn’t be a problem, however it does bolster arguements I’ve had previously suggesting that Mediaite buries stories that don’t support or favor certain causes and groups in the “Online” and “Print” sections. This isn’t a “TV” story, and shouldn’t really be featured as such.

  • tatboy

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, then I don’t know what your argument is. Olbermann left Countdown as a top ratings draw in his field, and his next gig hasn’t started yet. There will be tremendous interest in it. His status as a media figure is, at worst, an unknown.

    If you’re just arguing the accuracy of the subjective phrase “major media figure,” I guess we just disagree. If your argument is that we shouldn’t be covering him, you’re just wrong.

    Yep, you nailed it. You SHOULD be covering this crap of Olbermann’s. Is he a “major” media figure? No, and we’ll just have to disagree on that.

  • tatboy

    PS Tommy… U-Verse is awesome!!!

  • OxyCon

    Well, at least Olbermann had a reason to get out of bed and shower and shave today.

  • lane

    First, if Beck wants some advice, I think he’s want it from someone who’s been a cross-media success or media mogul. Oprah, Letterman, etc .

    Second, Olby sounds s bit like Charlie Sheen there, so that just made a little bit sad to watch.

    Third, MSNBC did a fantastic job ‘firing Olby. Yes, he was fired, just as Juan Williams was ‘fired’ by NPR. If he’s still being paid his contract terms, then yes, he won big-time. Since he’s been quiet about the terms, he certainly got some payment to go away peacefully… Seems like they paid him off some money “severance”, negotiated a time to transition in a new host, and avoided both a legal an d PR mess.

    Bottom is that Glenn Beck is a cross-media guy, so its an unfair comparison. Btw, I used Letterman because he owns his own show, plus his company owned part of Everyone loves Raymond. That’s a media mogul….

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    I still blame Olbermann for what happened to Letterman…

  • lonestar77

    “I’m referring to self-identified liberals, of which there are precious few that have any influence. Apart from MSNBC’s primetime lineup, who else is there?”

    You mentioned TV, so I assume that’s what you’re talking about. Outside of Hannity, there are no other self-identified conservative hosts on TV. When it comes to guests, CNN, MSNBC and the Sunday shows routinely feature “conservatives” like Kathleen Parker or David Brooks.

    If you’re speaking about radio, you can’t make someone listen to you. The problem with left-wing radio is, like MSNBC, it’s a hate-fest. There is little entertainment value outside of poopy jokes.

    Anyway, to pretend that there are more self-identified conservatives than there are liberals on TV, is just factually incorrect.

  • Pablo

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Wishing doesn’t make it so. The traffic from this post belies the repeated suggestions in this thread that nobody cares.

    Beck , not KO, is the draw. You know, the guy with an audience.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Oh, the irony of Olbermann, now relegated to Current TV, which is one notch below The Street Light Channel in total viewership, talking about Becks fade into oblivion, on a homemade video, no less! Frikkin awesome!

  • CAconservative

    Is Olbermann grasping at straws, or just showing how emotionally retarded he really is? What kind of person rejoices in another persons misery?
    Of course, when Obimbo is wallowing in self-pity when kicked out of office, I too will be rejoicing in his well deserved, intense grief…is that wrong?!

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Well, we cover many aspects of the media that others do not.

    Well said. You cover the nobody leftists that you want to prop up because outside of ellie and a couple of other fringe kooks no one cares. He got fired from his sportscasting job because he’s a douche, he got fired from his msnbc gig because he’s a douche, and somehow, you find what he has to say about Beck in a home made video important enough to write a column about. Wow.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Jones/1384303476 Chris Jones

    I guess the irony is totally lost on Olbermann that he’s heralding Beck’s downfall from a webcam in his apartment. What’s worse, he’s wearing a suit. You can’t fall much lower than Olbermann is right now yet he’s still pointing fingers at other people. Amazing.

  • OxyCon

    Tommy Christopher said:
    I’m referring to self-identified liberals, of which there are precious few that have any influence.

    The media overwhelmingly supports Democrat causes, of which Liberalism is the numero uno:

    Senior executives, on-air personalities, producers, reporters, editors, writers and other self-identifying employees of ABC, CBS and NBC contributed more than $1 million to Democratic candidates and campaign committees in 2008, according to an analysis by The Examiner of data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

    The Democratic total of $1,020,816 was given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks, with an average contribution of $880.

    By contrast, only 193 of the employees contributed to Republican candidates and campaign committees, for a total of $142,863. The average Republican contribution was $744.

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-democrats-got-88-percent-2008-contributions-tv-network-execs-writers#ixzz1JKuQLhe3

    Here is a handy chart.

  • MrTPar_taY

    Olberturds smile looks like he just swallowed a used condom.

  • Obeezy

    “Olbermann left Countdown as a top ratings draw in his field,”

    Sure thats if you take out every show on FOX and some CNN once in awhile.. He was tops on a 2nd rated and sometimes 3rd and 4th rated network.. he;s tops for liberals maybe, but no where near the industry, no matter how much you want to believe it

  • CAconservative

    Olbermnn has never reached the viewership, and popularity of Beck, and never will. Olbermann lived in the cellar because that’s where he belonged. Walloing around in the Fox attacking, cottage-industry known as MSNBC. Directing his emotional-envey at those who were able to go to the “big-show”.

  • Nachi

    I’ve always thought he was already in oblivion. Except for the intellectual reclusives who watch him. Hmmm.

  • news_junkie

    I’m no fan of Beck, but he still has his national radio show and the Blaze site.

    And I love this line:

    “I still have a show”…ON CURRENT TV! LOL. You’re a legend in your own mind, Keith.

  • crclarkNY

    I’d forgotten all about KO! Glad to hear he’s still up to nothing. We’ll see if Beck ends up the same way…

  • superyankees

    TOMMY, On a related Matter it would seem Glenn Beck has had a great influence on Bill O’reilly. You should see yesterdays Factor. Bill now agrees with beck theory’s regarding Mr Soros and his hidden agenda to destroy American Capitalism and replace it. Bill even started calling Soros spooky dude. So if the lefts belief is that Beck was fired due to his theories now they are being championed by the #1 guy on Fox Mr BIll O. I doubt roger will fire his #1 guy ;)

    Personally i believe beck will do specials for fox in the future but he is slowly loosing his vision rememeber Becks announcement about 10 months ago???? I bet he soon cant do an everyday TV broadcast. When you are fired you are treated like Keith O and have at best one show to say good bye. If you are really fired then why do you complete your contract?

  • notsofast

    Tommy Christopher said:
    I’m referring to self-identified liberals, of which there are precious few that have any influence. ”

    And for damn good reason, son.

  • Sean68

    Is Olbermann unaware how humorous this is? And not in a good way for him,

  • X-3

    Tommy Christopher said:
    It’s a big media world out there. And just as Olbermann wishing Beck into oblivion won’t make it so, neither will your wish for Olbermann. Like him or not, he’s still a major media figure.

    In your mind and his.

  • Snidely

    ermann should know. He has disappeared entirely, as far as I can tell.

  • WildMan

    OH I see, Keith Oversizemouth, sort of like you disappearing into the nether regions between two different dimensions. OK, I get it…tia

  • SWWT

    Lol, Keith would know.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Treacher/542957672 Jim Treacher

    “a very small pond of liberal figures on TV”

    LOL! Great stuff, Tommy.

  • Tedderman

    Keith will clean Rachel Ray’s clock(or her oven).

  • Paleoconservatarian

    Glenn Beck is so irrelevant… that there’s five pages of commentary on the 4th Mediaite Glenn Beck based article of the day!

  • tatboy

    Jim Treacher said:
    “a very small pond of liberal figures on TV” LOL! Great stuff, Tommy.

    I got a chuckle myself on that one.

  • Jelperman

    Beckerhead was fired for being a Jew-hating loser who could only attract bottom-feeder advertisers. Olbermann was fired for dragging MSNBC out of the gutter.

    Advantage: Fox

  • White Ninja

    So, to be clear, Becks ocean of Fox and KO’s little pond of NBC MSNBC ABC CNN and CBS?

    Love the headline by the way.

  • pansycritter

    And Keith should know, he lives in Oblivion.

  • Pablo

    Jelperman said:
    Beckerhead was fired for being a Jew-hating loser who could only attract bottom-feeder advertisers.

    Ah, one of those Jew hating Zionists. That’s like a Kosher hog, right? But what’s this about a firing? I don’t see any firing. I see Glenn Beck on Fox at 5:00.

  • Scrapette Jones

    I wish KO would predict his own demise. Just sayin….

  • Dem4Ever

    “Keith Olbermann Predicts Glenn Beck’s Descent Into Oblivion”

    He’s not you, buddy!

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Jelperman said:
    Beckerhead was fired for being a Jew-hating loser

    What a dork. It’s like libs / progs on racism, they’re overwhelmingly racist, and accusing others of racism makes their own racism more palatable to them.

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