The echo chamber in full effect.  This is only the beginning folks … it’s going to be almost eleven months of everything racist.  It is disgusting.  Liberals cannot win on their ideas, but only on shutting down dissent.  They are pathetic.

Newt’s message is not reality, but what southerns want to hear. They have a black president. The valedictorian of their kids school is middle eastern. The middle class black kid beat their son for 1st string quarterbac­k. The Harvard black guy got the promotion. The Asian kid scored higher on the SAT.

So they cling to the stereotypi­cal image that they see on cops, knowing that the clock is ticking. Their way of life of privilege is no longer valid.

Watching liberal dribble such as this does not make me want to curse so much as it makes me want to vomit…  to listen to the wholesale discounting of the entire state of South Carolina by these self-righteous liberals is truly unsettling.  It is amazing how liberals sit around and glorify each other while making inane comments which belittle the 60% of Americas who do not buy into their progressive BS.  

Man , oh man , can they get their faux rage on though .

If it wasn’t about race then why did Newt not talk about the food stamp in the terms of white folks, who after all are the majority of the population and it follows would be the majority of food stamp receipients. If people on the dole is the issue then why not comment on the largest group where you do the most good? Better why not be all inclusive?

Why…….­…because the right does not care about how many white people are on food stamps, but the right’s myth that all of AA folks are.

if that little rant wasn’t flat out racist!

Man , oh man , can they get their faux rage on though .

Yeah, why don’t black people rush to the GOP when Newt sez the President has a “Kenyan” mindset — or when Limbaugh calls the First Lady “uppity”….Poor GOP!

Hard to know what to think about this. Don’t see color.
Gloves is a simple jamoch from the wrong side of the tracks, just trying to chase his dreams in this crazy old mixed up world.

Maybe if we all moved out to the suburbs.

Why not follow the advice of Motorist Rodney King who asks, ” Can’t we all get a lawn?”

Get Mika B. and Meghan McCain in to ‘splain it to us.

Poor Juan. Not even the people he sold out for like him.

Straight from the Gingrich Playbook

If only, that made sense?

Like Ezra Klein and Chris Haynes are not the most Biased Liberal Guest commentators on MSNBC?
Every accusation out of theirs mouths is about Raaacism and/ are being Bullied by the Right. These Girlie Men belong in a freak show on the old Times Square.

Of course not to a republican.

So, actually seeing a breakdown of just who’s on foodstamps means nothing to you because it doesn’t serve your racist attack? Is that what your saying?

The entire state of South Carolina are not all Conservatives who support Newt. As phrased, you are dead wrong. So is Newt. The fact that in his pompous egotistical arrogence he failed to see his singling out of the black community when talking about a work ethic is insulting is the problem. His campaigning is revealing that what almost everybody, including republicans, have said about his, is true, and his insisting that he’s older and wiser and changed, is not.

Don’t worry Juan .  MSNBC’S Chris Hayes , The Daily Beasts Michelle Goldberg, The Washinton Posts and Newsweeks’ Ezra Klein  and MSNBC’sfuture Up lead-out Melissa Harris Perry (lol) , TOTALLY had your back when Vivian Schiller intimated that you might be insane . TOTALLY

Oh brother.

I guess all white people (conservative ones anyway) will just have to shut up and not say anything, lest they be called racist.  That is what is going on here, try to intimidate anyone from speaking at all by threatening to call them racists and more.
The card has been overplayed, the word is nearly meaningless now.

Give it up TC, Newt is not a racist, no matter how you and your buddies at MSNBC want to spin it.

And, facts are facts and that includes the number of people on food stamps, so stop making it a racist thing and just accept that fact.

I’ll end where I started – oh brother.  This article makes me want to curse out loud.

Apparently nobody noticed he was specifically referring to “young people”.  Are the liberals … um … the media (Tommy included) wringing their hands at this comment suggesting that Juan Williams was included in Newt’s “young people”?

Hey Gloves. If you’re still looking for a hobby, why not start a food stamp collection?
The early ones may be valuable.

Newt and the other conservative candidates gave voice voluntarily to thier own ideas. {Or at least the ones they were told would work} That’s why they’re not doing well.

This election cycle is going to be proved one of the most bile in recent history. Liberals must pull out every dirty trick possible because of their lack of anything even resembling a credible record. They are stuck with candidate who’s own record cannot be touted because, it doesn’t exist on any level worth mentioning. Obimbo’s own narcissistic egomania will prevent him from admitting he has failed. In his narcissistic world, he is a winner in his own mind, and the Democratic Party is too afraid of him to ask him to remove himself. They failed to see this coming, and in so doing, they may have doomed their own Party to a defeat that will take years, if not decades to overcome.

This election cycle is going to be proved one of the most bile in recent history. Liberals must pull out every dirty trick possible because of their lack of anything even resembling a credible record. They are stuck with candidate who’s own record cannot be touted because, it doesn’t exist on any level worth mentioning. Obimbo’s own narcissistic egomania will prevent him from admitting he has failed. In his narcissistic world, he is a winner in his own mind, and the Democratic Party is too afraid of him to ask him to remove himself. They failed to see this coming, and in so doing, they may have doomed their own Party to a defeat that will take years, if not decades to overcome.

Not to anyone. And by the way, I’m not a Republican.

I would be embarrassed to call myself a republican if I were one also

It bears repeating, so I will: Libs  and their media cuddle-toys only have a ‘Thassssssss Racisssssss’ hammer, so everything to them is a racist nail.

Everyone knows this to be true.

I didn’t say I was embarrassed, did I? Are you trying to put Liberal words in my mouth? How embarrassing is it to be caught doing that?!

What kind of delicate flower do you think Juan is that he can’t handle something? All those who cry racism everytime a conservative says something are the racists. You are treating Obama, Juan etc like they are some precious wussies or like they are handicapped or something. Just because they are black doesn’t mean anytime youook at them or talk to them it is racist. Good god, quit being so insulting to black people, “liberals”.

Not as Pathetic as your Repulican candidates!

Groucho Marx……”I wouldn’t belong to any political party that would have me as a member”

These fools see race in everything. It was not about Juan Williams but about instilling the work ethic in “youth”. Am I missing something? But “youth” includes all young people no matter the color or ethnic heritage.

Four liberal fools and a silent libertarian. (I believe that’s Gary Johnson on the end.)

No matter who is the Republican nominee, they will find “racist” in every statement and action.

Well seeing more whites are collecting benifits from the food stamp program then anyone else .You should feel right at home.

Personally Newt will not get my vote in a primary election, my comment is to the whole structure of this segment on MSNBC and it’s sanctimonious nature. The segment starts off with Hayes’ repetitive chant of South Carolina, South Carolina, South Carolina, followed by the Chucky Gingrich doll, only to be topped by their interpretation of Newt’s overt racial bias…  which is a matter of interpretation..  Like I said, self-righteous liberals stroking each other’s egos by celebrating each other’s slander of republican candidates.  

Liberal Media and progressives in general tend to associate so closely with each other that they do not really understand the pulse of everyday Americans…  they then to over estimate their popularity, over estimate America’s buy in to their self-righteous indignation and their political strength in this country. 

Hell, I’d love to see that sweaty pig keep playing the race game and I’m a liberal.  All he’s doing is digging his own grave and rolling out the red carpet to Obama’s re-inauguration.  Keep up the good work, Newtles, and Obama won’t even have to break a sweat.   

Newt is taking the lead because of his debate performances, but if he won the campaign, (which he can not do because of a too poorly organized campaign organizati­on not even being on the ballot in Virginia, for example), Newt would not fair the same in debates against Obama. Newt scored many points by being condescend­ing to Juan Williams when saying “Well, Juan” and then launching into a tirade about blacks wanting food stamps. I bet an audience in the general election instead of cheering such remarks would heartily boo them because we would be talking of a much fairer minded audience than the GOP base, which often seems like they belong in the old Roma Colosseum watching the gladiators­.

That’s “jamoke” and there isn’t a better word to describe ya! Thanks for the laugh of  the WEEK! 

LOL

OU812, soon.

Playing the race card once again- old, tired, overused.

OMG !!!! LMAO !!!! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!111

So a misspelling does it for you ?  Huh .

Another day, another race baiting article from Mr. Christopher.

“That” Juan Williams

A racially charged misreporting (the woman said “Mister” Juan Williams) which takes a comment neutral in its character to a colorblind person and wedges racial overtones into it.

Tommy Christopher has become so practices at blowing dog whistles into his own ears at every occasion so to better be able to hear their call that he’s lost his hearing, evidently.

I see. I’m no fan of most of the TV media and in that regard I have some agreement with you. although I’d add that we get just as much self righteous arrogance from conservative media.. Since Newt’s racial bias is a matter of interpretation , I suppose they have a right to theirs.
I can’t stand Newt, but I was willing to give him the benifit of the doubt here because I know how the media likes to exaggerate and inflame. Watching the clip it sure looks like he took a rather sleazy cheap shot at JW who had the audacity to disagree with him and ask a question.

Disgusting.

Yep, Fanboy Tommy will be sure to rush right over and report on every morsel of crap that flows from MSNBC. He is singlehandedly destroying Mediaite’s credibility.

Look, I’m no conservative, but one thing I HATE about the “mainstream” Left in this country, esp. in the media, is this holier-than-thou attitude on race, as if, “We know what’s racist better than everyone else, so we have to point it out and be super-sensitive douchebags.”  I’m SICK OF IT!  Newt’s racist, Perry’s racist, Ron Paul’s racist, Obama’s racist.

GET OVER THIS FASCINATION WITH CALLING EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING RACIST.  If EVERYONE is racist, then nothing is racist.  You’re causing the word to lose ALL MEANING with this PC crap (and sometimes ‘reverse racism’ nonsense on the Right).  What Gingrich said post-debate was not NECESSARILY racist, although it may have bordered on it.  But to call it ‘racist’ ASSUMES that Gingrich did in fact say that stuff simply b/c Juan was black, as if Gingrich would have said nothing if Juan was white.  Come on…

Chris Hayes, Chris Matthews and Lawrence O’Donnell is nothing but super-partisan jackoffs who think they’re SOO much smarter than everyone else and focus on superficial bullcrap too often.  Or rip into ANYTHING remotely conservatvie as potentially ‘racist’, nutty, etc., as if NOTHING the Left ever says is stupid.

Tommy is like one of those 12-year-old girls who used to squeal and faint at Jonas Boys concerts — except that MSNBC and all its hosts are his idols of worship. You’re an embarrassment, Tomasina.

of course not ;-)

“Give it up TC, Newt is not a racist, no matter how you and your buddies at MSNBC want to spin it.”

Racism does have to express itself in overt hatefulnessI can’t tell whether Newt is displaying subtle racism or simply pandering to it. Either way that makes him oretty unpresidential in my book. Politicians who feel they have to cater to the lower aspects of our simetimes unattractive human nature are not good leaders IMO.
If Newt wanted to make a point about work ethic and the pursuit of happiness requiring effort, {something most people would agree with} he didn’t have to single out the African American community or the NAACP. The implications , purposeful or an unintentional slip, are undeniable. Juan’s question was a reasonable one and Newt of his own accord responded with snark and arrogence rather than humility and clarification.
Now, in the clip above, he takes a cheap shot at Juan. He’s an idiot if he didn’t realize pentential racial connotations of going there.

Well, honestly I did pick up on the manner in which Newt mentioned his conversation with Juan Williams and honestly that was more bothersome to me than there initial exchange during the debate… but having said that I wish that the so called News outlets would stick more to reporting the events and light analysis rather than their current formats which turn the news into entertainment shows by exploiting the political bias of their viewers, something that generates much criticism of both Fox and MSNBC… I guess the reason that I don’t find Fox as distasteful as MSNBC is that they are one against many and I think that they actually do a better job of having panelists on their shows to represent an opposing point of view.. I don’t listen to the Limbaugh types as his is not a serious program and is 100% opinion based.

At any rate IMO Newt won’t be the eventual nominee unless this Romney thing about his taxes which really is more about his professional career spins out of control. Personally I will vote for Paul in the primaries as he is the only candidate on whom I can rely on to not have political masters or a perverse bias. In the end I will probably vote against the President as I can not fathom how his policies can possibly save this country from the train wreck that lies ahead.

They cannot possibly be serious.
That includes Tommy too.
Newt was talking to TO Juan and was not talking ABOUT Juan.
Are they really trying to twist this into Newt said Juan Williams doesn’t work…..?
That was incredibly dishonest and sort of insulting.
He said no such thing.

“Cursing”

There’s another word I’d love to see die out already.  This is 2012! It’s called “swearing” or “cussing”! Calling it “cursing” makes you sound like some old fogey who’s not with the times.  ”Cursing” as a synonym for swearing is just goofy.

“Later in the week, Gingrich thanked a woman who congratulated him for “putting that Juan Williams in his place.”
WOW, someone doing a little creative editing to further play the race card? She called him Mr. Juan Williams, not THAT Juan Williams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq3UU-FyJEc&feature=related

Again, you (race card playing liberals) are demanding African Americans be treated differently, demanding that Conservataives treat them differently, as in *special* than any other political opponent. Language that would be completely benign used against any white person is not racist just because the person it is said to is black. YOU are the ones who want them treated differently because of their race. You are acting like the racists.

Williams and Bill O’Reilly began their discussion with Gingrich’s claim that young people need to be taught to have a work ethic, which Williams attacked. “When you see that jobs are offered to young people in this country, you have lines around the block… he was suggesting that somehow these kids don’t want to work,” he argued.

O’Reilly perceived it differently, as Gingrich suggesting that jobs within schools be funded by the government to help teach work ethic. That Williams did not find objectionable, nor did he find it compatible with Gingrich’s actual words.

“He said the kids don’t have work ethic,” Williams contended, though O’Reilly replied that “he didn’t say it was the kids’ fault,” but that many grow up in a “welfare situation.”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/williams-to-oreilly-gingrich-wanted-debate-crowd-to-react-to-strange-character-juan/

Newt Gingrich was confronted by a black man outside Tommy’s Country Ham House, who questioned him on his comments on having poor children work as janitors.

The man said what Gingrich was asking for amounted to a “new form of slavery” and would force young African Americans to drop out of school.

http://tinyurl.com/77m9mqn

Look how giddy the racist tea baggers were.   They were so happy Newt put that uppity negro in his place.

If stuff made up by the media makes Chris want to curse his head will explode when Obama gets the boot and republicans take total control of the house and senate…
Newt/Palin 2012

How many blacks are employed by NBC in their News Division? How many hold daily shows? Sharpton…all of their panels are always filled with white limo liberals filled with white guilt. It is going to be hysterical to see them take the race card out every night until election night when you will see a panel of white men and women say that this was a racist election and America still isn’t ready for a black president..lmao.

MSNBC is just piss poor.

Chris Hayes is a messy looking twerp who looks like he is 17 years old and fell out of bed. A web blogger at best. A wannabe Keith Olbermann…he did make Chris who he is after all.

You can only get fined if people are actually watching, so go right ahead, Chrissy. 

Asia for the Asians
Africa for the Africans
Mexico for the Mexicans
White Countries for EVERYBODY?
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white

I wish Tommy was on the panel to throw a fit with the rest of the M-BS-NBC panel.
The closer a Republican gets to looking like he can beat Obama, the more desperate and unhinged these far-left media loons get.

The mental picture of Tommy, Chris Hayes and Ezra Klein biting down hard on their rolled up towels is hysterical.

Curse out loud … but don’t ‘shut up’.  That is their objective.

Blacks sure are lucky they have Tommy Christopher looking out for them.

You’re such a moron. They have a high unemployment rate. They’re looking for jobs and hope for the future. That’s why past personal indiscretions will mean very little to this election.
The message Newt is using will resonate with many Americans. If he wins the nomination we’ll see how well the Harvard guy does in debating. Maybe the media will press him up for his school grades like they’re pressing candidates for tax returns. 

I believe I enjoyed your ongoing rants of delusion better when you were still taking your anti-psychotic medication and drinking heavily.Now your way too predictable.YAWN-ZZzzzz.

Anyone,Quick!!!!! Get the straitjacket,I believe he may perform harm to himself!!!!!!!!

Still waiting on that request???????

Just like the time the monkeys flew out of my rectal orifice.Vote for the “ROTUND BLIMP”and the “MENTAL SHRIMP” in 2012.YEA THAT”LL DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe we can get you 1st in line for the electroshock therapy that may help your condition.While your waiting we’ll get you a glass of Faux Noise Whine.Slurp it up deluded,the pain will all be over in 9 months.

Gee…you don’t think these liberals are using Blacks as a political weapon, do you?
I’m sure they are just looking out for Blacks because for some reason they feel like Blacks need extra help.

Whenever things start looking grim for Obama, you can always count on Tommy throwing a fit and writing something stupid.

That’s why they named the show “(Throw) Up, It’s Chris Hayes”.

I know, how racist is that?!

Nice personal attack! You’re a blue chip talent!

South Carolina black population 28%  Black voters in GOP primary today 1%

Case closed.

Want to know what snooty liberals really think about Juan Williams?

“The thing nobody will say. . . is that Juan was here because he was black,” one NPR veteran told me, adding that Williams was the beneficiary of the very liberalism he came to denounce. “We were carrying Juan. I can only imagine what that feels like. It must breed all kinds of ambivalent attitudes toward the place.”
…
Michel Martin called Williams “the most skillful manipulator of white people’s anxieties that I have ever met.”
…
one NPR editor created a kind of “Juan Williams Watch,” tuning in Fox regularly to hear, as she put it, whatever “stupid cockamamie” thing he might say, and which, therefore, she would have to defend.

http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2012/01/National-Public-Rodeo

Well, I’m sure these liberals REALLY don’t think of Blacks as being inferior…it just sure as hell looks like it.

Gingrich just won in a landslide and now he is giving a campaign address.

I bet all these leftist loons like Hayes, Klown and Tommy are having fits of rage at the moment.

Hayes might even shout out loud “GOSH DARNIT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

Like none of you post weren’t “personal”……re-read them dimwit.

I don’t understand. Newt wasn’t saying Juan Williams isn’t a hard worker, was he? wasn’t he saying that Juan doesn’t seem to think people should work rather than get welfare? that might not be true, but how is it racist, unless you assume everyone on welfare is black, which IS racist, but that isn’t what he said, is it?

and I am not a Newt supporter. I just want to know why it’s racist to say that we’ve kind of lost the idea of the work ethic. is it because he said it to a black reporter? would it have been ok if he’d said it to George Snuffleupagus instead?

The South Carolina primary was for the most part was an all white primary.

It was an all white primary.

I see you’ve jumped out to a fast start. Good luck with your predictability.

you pathetic liberal. You see racists around every corner. Since when is a “Kenyan mindset” a racist remark. It has everything to do with Obama’a thinking, nothing to do with skin color. Where is your mind at, back in the 1800s?
Look, some people don’t like the way our president thinks and acts, get it?
I couldn’t stand most of what C

Wow, that comment didn’t sound racist to me in the least.  WTF is wrong w/ those people? It seems the left is growing MORE annoying than ever.  Is it just me?  

Well said.

Maybe Newt singled out the black community because of the fact that African-Americans receive food stamps at a higher rate than other races, and he views this as problematic.

The sole basis for the existence of the NAACP is TO single out African-Americans. You know, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People? Newt’s comments regarding less welfare dependence and more jobs for Black people is not racist in the least bit – it’s actually empowering and an idea for ‘advancing’ the economic interests of African-Americans. (The whole reason for the existence of the NAACP!!!)
Any time a white person discusses something pertaining / association with  African-Americans, they are automatically called racist. This crap has got to go. 

Tommy links to his “Why Won’t Black People Let Newt Gingrich Help Them?” post about 6 times in this article and, to me, that is very telling.

If proving one’s racism requires a full page article dissecting every little thing they say and highlighting the potential racial connotations – you are trying to hard. Proving racism shouldn’t require a literary analysis because when there is real racism, it is obvious on its’ face.
Liberals love using backwards logic. It’s always: 1) I am a smart liberal, so I know that the GOP is inherently racist. 2) Everything they say MUST have some type of racial connotation. 3) How can I cherry pick what he said to make it seem racist? 4) Even if it’s not racist in the least bit, it still is racist because all Republicans are racist. 5) I feel good about myself.
The 5 steps in any playing of the race card.

The official rule, enforced ruthlessly, is that no white person can speak critically of blacks in general. And enforcing this rule gives white liberals self-righteous erections. If Chris Rock says it, he’s a genius but if some white guy says the exact same thing, he’s a racist. Of course, the impertinent question is not whether something is “racist” or not but rather Is it true?

:Unfortunately black people rushed to the party which has given them handouts from other people’s work and made them completely dependent on their new “massah,” the Dems.

Obama has charisma and is hip. Newt has experience and knowledge. If you are talking about the substance of a debate, Obama has no chance of beating Newt. That is why the media and members of the Obama administration are desperately trying to paint Newt as a racist.

Do you think Obama would win if he ran on his record? I don’t. That is why all of Obama’s ads will be attacks. 

50 years from now everyone is going to look back at this daily playing of the race card nonsense and shake their head in stunned disbelief.  Its either going to be because this country split apart at the seams over race and they cant believe the role the establishment media played by intentionally stoking the flames -or- we will have reached a place of light-years-better understanding of racial issues and no will believe how absurd it was in 2012.  At the rate we are going, there is no middle ground.

The problem with the contemptuous “Kenyan mindset” characterization is the painfully obvious dog-whistle nature of it. You can’t say it’s not being used as a smear. Educated people know the President did not grow up in Kenya, saw his father only twice, etc. The point of manufacturing this sort of characterization is to exploit latent xenophobia and racism among less educated white voters, to re-paint those placards of Obama as an African witch doctor without going so far. I’m a southern white guy and I can tell you: some people here are still not comfortable with the concept of an African-American president.

Hey, it was OK to throw Juan under the bus. He’s a racist too!

“The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful than the conservative. The liberal is more hypocritical than the conservative.
Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the
art of posing as the Negro’s friend and benefactor; and by winning the
friendship, allegiance, and support of the Negro, the white liberal is
able to use the Negro as a pawn or tool in this political “football
game” that is constantly raging between the white liberals and white
conservatives.” – Malcom X

This isn’t new.

You must be a dog. Only dogs can hear dog whistles.

Educated people, and not so educated people, understand why Obama wrote Dreams From My Father.

Newt’s message is not reality, but what southerns want to hear. They have a black president. The valedictorian of their kids school is middle eastern. The middle class black kid beat their son for 1st string quarterbac­k. The Harvard black guy got the promotion. The Asian kid scored higher on the SAT.

These would be the southerners that elected an Indian governor, right?

More whites are paying taxes than anyone else too, right?

The sole basis for the existence of the NAACP is TO single out African-Americans.

IT’S OK WHEN THEY DO IT, YOU RACIST CRACKER!!!!

Yes, those undeniable implications. Like that racist bastard Michael Nutter.

That was Newt calling Juan “boy”. It was just very, very subtle. You have to be a dog progressive to hear these dog whistles.

He’s just filling a need he perceives.

No Dan the entire state of S. Carolina does not all support Newt. However, Newt got a standing ovation from everybody in that room (and many more at home) including Romney, Paul, Santorum and every conservative/sentient human being (includes non conservatives) who think brain dead morons like Tommy and Chrish and Ezra can’t take provocative BUT FACTUAL  statements at their PLAIN MEANING.  Barack Obama presides over more food stamp recipients than ANY OTHER PRESIDENT EVER. Fact, indisputable. Maybe, these jerk offs can actually assess whether what he said is true before calling everything “racist”

Ahhh Tommy Christopher the hackiest hack and get this “White House Corrrespondent” for mediate.com also seguing into his real expertise Why are non racist statements by republicans actually racist”

Perhaps Tommy should go back to justifying why Helen “throw da joos back to poland and Germany” Thomas was an unfortunate victim.who was merely “biased” and “provocative”  not bigoted.

Not a single non hard core progressive takes you seriosely Tommy, not one. :)

Tommy, condescenig to the media and ripping them “new ones” is Newt 101, he like many in this country feel contempt towrads you and yours (well deserved may i add)

Is it just my imagination or didn’t Newt get a standing ovation just a few days later for tearing John King a new hole as well (middle aged white John King)

Get a life Tommy, you are convincing NOBODY. Is that your goal anymore? to enlighten and convince, or merely to vent your spleen?

they sure treat them like they do.

liberal talking heads call anything a conservative says “racist”.   It’s taught to them by liberal school, I suppose.    I heard nothing, NOTHING, that was said in that video clip that was racist.   Do they content that what Newt said is “racist” because he had said it to Juan Williams?    I’d like to know if Newt told that story and replaced Juan Williams with an unknown person, would they still say it was “racist”?   Encouraging a work ethic in children is not racist, it is common sense because you want children to grow up to be responsible adults.     

The Washington Post’s Ezra Klein was incredulous. “I
hadn’t seen that before. That is unbelievable. That’s worse than
anything NPR ever said about Juan Williams. Way worse.

No it isn’t… what NPR said was just as bad. And that is the problem with Tommy and all liberals. They don’t see it as bad (or equally bad) when liberals do offensive things. Sad.

quit pretending to be Hispanic, Pablo

There are a few problems with Newt’s facts. At one point he says President Obama has put more people on food stamps. Not factual since food stamps is voluntary. It subtly implied that Obama , and perhaps black Americas, are satisfied with food stamps rather than jobs. It ignores the fact that the economic recession that threw so many people out of work  He ignores the fact that a very large % of people on food stamps already have jobs. The problem is Newt went the extra mile to single out the black community, and talk about going to the NAACP. If you’re talking to a predominantly black audience it makes sense to appraoch issues that concern the black community , but why single out the NAACP to a predominantly white audience? It wasn’t overtly and hatefully racist. It was more smug and condescending.
I’m pretty tired of racism being thrown around so casually myself but it’s not hard to understand why some people saw it that way.

“I wish that the so called News outlets would stick more to reporting the
events and light analysis rather than their current formats which turn
the news into entertainment shows by exploiting the political bias of
their viewers, something that generates much criticism of both Fox and
MSNBC…”

Amen!
“I will probably vote against the President as I can not fathom how his
policies can possibly save this country from the train wreck that lies
ahead. ”
IMO, the issue is corruption rampant in both parties and our current poltical system. I don’t expect any president to change it or seriously challange it without the support and understanding of the public, and some honest polticians.

Just don’t make me have to watch Gingrich deplane for four years.  Did you see him do it the other day? He’s too fat to deplane.  Took him minutes.  I had no idea he was so very fat.

BTW, he is a total raciest.  To the core.

Anyone that fat can’t have the discipline to be out President.

PLEASE NO!

It would make complete sense for a poltician to address the concerns of black Americans while speaking to black Americans. When you single them out while speaking to a predominantly white audience it’s another matter. Why would a smart politician do that?
Don’t a lot of white people , hispanic people, and other races also recieve food stamps. For that matter , don’t a large % of people who recieve food stamps already have jobs? {That’s rhethorical , the answer is yes}

I don’t like the way racism is thrown about myself , but the idea that Newt was just telling the uncomfortable truth is not accurate.

I totally agree that the “racist” accusation gets overplayed, but that doesn’t mean it never applies.  Gingrich (and lots of other conservative politicians and TV types) are articulating a worldview that is grounded in the worst stereotypes about black people.  The fact that Gingrich doesn’t explicitly use epithets doesn’t excuse the fact that he’s trying to connect with voters who think black people are generally lazy, dependent, and looking to get something for nothing.  Those voters are the people who, like you, heard “nothing, nothing” that was racist in that clip; he’s connecting with you at the level of a worldview that feels entirely natural, and objective, to you. It can’t be racist, right?  It’s just a fact.  He says that all the time.  So why does Gingrich himself offer to go lecture the NAACP about the evils of food stamps?  Why doesn’t he bring that message to the while food-stamp recipients, who are, after all, more numerous that the black ones?

Seeing that the whites are still a majority.
Would that surprise you?

I’d rather see Callista deplane from AF1 than Mooch.

All white primary?

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45000.html

All white primary in a state where the black population is twice the national average?

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45000.html

I agree with you in what you are saying, The more you study our history the more you see the corruption by the powerful of both parties at the expense of the everyday citizens who have placed their trust in our government.

For that reason alone I tend to support Ron Paul as he is the only candidate from either party who seems to think that our constitution matters. Even if Paul can’t win it is important that he garner a significant amount of the votes so that the parties can take note of his message and the fact that there exists in our country a large group that paying attention to him.

What is racism, anyways?

Answer:

NAACP.
Congressional Black Caucus.
United Negro College.
Miss Black America.
Viva La Raza.
Cinco De Mayo.

And most of all: Affirmative Action.

you don’t dare want to say a bad word on air.  you sissy efen liberal.

What?? I find it curious that you left out White Supremacists and the KKK!!

Newt can’t help himself when talking to an African-American, he feels the need to put them in their place!!

You and your like-minded, blind and racist liberals beat me to the punch.

Many times. Every day. Several times a day.

That is the mentality that most cons have of blacks, Newt especially. Then the cons get all indignant when almost all blacks desert them and then they get accused of being racist.

Are you trying to make us laugh by hinting MLK was some mouthbreather like the average con these days?

How exactly are they shutting down dissent? That is such a lie. That is inbred kneejerk right wing thinking at its worst. Newt went out of his way to make those remarks to pander to the worst of the right. You are in an echo chamber, and Newt is smart enough to exploit such simpletons.

Sorry but thank god a backwards racist state like South Carolina DOESN’T represent the nation. But it does represent the worst of the conservative movement, which you identify with. No other state still flies the Confederate traitor flag yet according to a great thinker like you, they are America.

“These Girlie Men” wow you are the real deal

Who are the NAACP supposed to support, Iranians?

What exactly is Newt’s record but to tie himself to Reagan?

You broke the TC rule, now you’re banned. Make sure you include this response with your angry email.

Baited, Hooked, and landed!

Sell that crap to people who are ignorant fools.  Blacks, supported by Republicans since the Civil War against crimes committed against them by Dems allowed themselves to be purchased.  They sold themselves for 30 pieces of silver and as a group, all for a handout from the govt. Repubs owe them NOTHING.  They have made themselves irrelevant because they prefer to be subjegated to their new “massah.”   It is a pathetic outcome:  end slavery, provide civil rights, become slaves once again.

Jonas, you know nothing about me or apparently my political thought. Just because I don’t support the liberal progressive movement does not mean that I am enamored with the confederate flag.

Your comment 
“No other state still flies the Confederate traitor flag yet according to a great thinker like you, they are America.”

Is open to interpretation.  Common understanding of states rights leading up to the civil war was that states had the right to secede. 

“Liberty was supposed to depend more on the rights of states than on the powers of the general government. Even the leading textbook on the Constitution maintained the right of a state to secede peacefully from the Union”  - Historian, Merrill D.Peterson speaking of the accepted thought leading up to the civil war in his book  ”The Great Triumvirate”.

In 1832 in an extra governmental convention (the same type convention used to draft the Declaration of Independence) the South Carolina legislature considered nullification of the tariffs in accordance with rationales set forth in the South Carolina Exposition of 1828 that was secretly written by John Calhoun while he was still Vice President of the United States, there was a strong secessionist movement even back then based on unfair taxation, the same principle that led to the American revolution.  President Jackson intervened with measures to assuage the south and keep them from session 30 years before the civil war.  America tends to forget this, the movement was based on state’s rights and unfair taxation.

Personally I dislike the stars and bars probably as much as you do, mostly because of what other’s see in it…  It deeply offends enough people that I think that it should go away, but the right for a state to secede from the Union was not questioned until Lincoln forced his will. Your calling session treason is a modern interpretation of history, not the common and accepted view of the country just prior to the civil war. Lincoln himself was a racist given his view of what should happen to the slaves after the civil war, he wanted the Afro-American population to be resettled into the Caribbean and Central America as he did not believe that the two races could co-exist in America..  Don’t take my word for it as his point of view has been documented but as it does not fit the contemporary view of American History you will have to dig a little to satisfy yourself that this indeed is not revision, but true history.  LIncoln fought the war for tariffs, not for emancipation the south for both reasons as emancipation was going to be in their future without succession, but the common southern farmer who did not own slaves, fought for his economic freedom and state rights against an ever increasingly progressive government. 

So whats the problem with RACISM? I think it makes perfect sense. WAR and OCCUPATION are the real scams.

Using the false cry of racism is an “effort” to shut someone up.  That is the intention, and it is getting tiresome.  Institutional racism is over.  It has been over for a long time.  The liberal mindset cannot let it go. It is a pathology that must be buried … at the ballot box!

Just 98% white.

Are you surprised that the African-American population didn’t turn out in droves to vote for Newt Gingrich?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012/south-carolina-primary-jan-21/exit-polls

98% white.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2012/south-carolina-primary-jan-21/exit-polls

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

Stop pretending to be human, Barry.  Does Juan pretend to be Hispanic?

Even most of the dumbest animals will drink when they are led to the trough.

If only two percent of the voters were non-whites, they had better not complain if the eventual winner of this primary (and then the President) doesn’t meet their approval. 

But less so than what is in the WH now.

If they thought they were too high and mighty, not to mention flaming racists, to vote for Newt Gingrich, they were also too stupid to see that there were three other candidates.

Every Republican is Racist or voter for by racists, Blah, Blah, Blah. No Democrat can run on ideas or improving the nation. Obama sure can’t run on his record! $1.85 gas when he came into office and he still won”t approve the pipeline from Canada. And yet, the Obama administration is the one who seems to not like white people. Oh, that kind of racism is OK, isn’t it!

What does Kenyan mindset even mean? Sometimes I can’t tell if you Neo cons are really stupid or just think everyone else is. Or just too evil to care. Probably a combination of them all.

Agreed.  Preferably when the plane is over Mt. St. Helen’s.

Whats tiresome is people who are racist trying to convince everyone racism doesn’t exist. The thing is they know in their mind they are racist but don’t want to admit to themselves they are a horrible person.

What did NPR say about Juan Williams?  That he couldn’t keep his job in light of the things he said on Fox?  Is that offensive?  NPR saved his career.  He’s a fake black guy* with a barely mediocre intellect, and thanks to NPR firing him he got a great gig at Fox, who would never hire an actual American black person:  they only have brothers like Cornel West on as examples of how crazy and scary black people are.  Every white host on Fox treats Juan Williams like a retarded child. 

*By which I mean he’s like central American or something and is not an African American.  He has zero connect with the black American perspective the way, say, Condoleeza Rice does.

You do realize that Juan said “black people”, Newt replied saying “all people”, and you turned that into racial code for “black people”?  What you’re really saying between the lines here is that anytning Newt says is racist.  Is it the Georgia accent, or are you just bigoted about all Republicans?

Do you actually think about these things, or are you just trying to make a deadline?

Republicans like to make up facts as they see fit it seems. Bush holds the record for highest food stamp recipients ever, and the rate has been falling since. But probably only because people are starving to death.

Umm thats the opposite of what he was saying.Republicans aren’t very bright so I guess you would see it the way you explained

OOh, a witty liberal!

He received his 
‘Negro wake Up Call” lol

And I guess what he did to John King was he bullied him? No race card but now a bully card? The Left has thrown the race card sooo many times its like Muzak in an elevator.

what a brilliant mind you have. excellent point! / sarcasm mode deactivated

I for one am glad Newt has shown the true skin of republicans. He is now ensuring the republicans don’t have a chance in November.

As a former GOP member, I say well put Sam. It is amusing that neocons scream when race is brought up but it is they themselves that obsessibly look at everything wrong with our country through racial tinted glasses. BTW, Pablo here is as hispanic as Santorum.

But humans can tell if you are pissing on their head or if it’s raining.

He will debate like some one who went to?..Harvard. The media pressed him for his birth certificate. Are you new to America quenia. They called him a foreign born terrorist . An american racist radical who may or may not have killed his white grandmother because he hates white people! And you think school grades will will work this time ha….

Not to mention that also didn’t work last time…..

How about the republican candidate not sucking this time around and be able to debate about real issues instead of empty rhetoric, maybe republicans will have a chance….nah that will never happened

Umm, have you read the breakdown of just who is on food-stamps? Seems Whites top the list. Which calls into question how you stretch the truth into making it appear that all Blacks are on welfare?  
Now if you want a statistic that should make every American sick, is the fact the 71% of all illegal alien parasites are on some form of social welfare!!

is it NICE in your bigot bubble?  You guys think you’re too clever by half with your ‘dog whistles’ and then throw your hands up when called on it.  “WHO ME”?  Kind of like the economy.  You screwed the country and then blame Obama for everything.  When it’s pointed out you accuse/blame everything on the libruls.  WHO ME???

That makes absolutely no sense. Most minorities don’t vote Republican because of the denigrating comments, the old boy network that is the GOP and just the “feeling” that non-whites are not welcome.

She stated he needed psychological help.

For some reason I keep thinking of the white South Carolinians I’ve seen in the newsclips from the debates and especially from the celebrations around Newt’s victory. I can’t help but wonder as I look at these seemingly normal looking white people, how on earth they can fall for the worst political propaganda currently making the rounds. I’m sure most of them don’t think of themselves as  racists, nor would they think they’re still resentful of the North defeating them in the Civil War freeing the slaves and holding the country together. However, these people are certainly the victims of incredibly corrupt politicians like Gingrich, second rate educations, immoral, hypocritical churches and tons of bad myths and propaganda. My apologies to the many liberal and progressive South Carolinians – may you become the majority asap! Fortunately, the demographics are rapidly changing and the numbers are going against the Republicans. If Gingrich does actually become the Republican candidate, it will definitely be a wipe out for the rightwing.

The greatest danger to America is that liberals believe the things they say …

Hyperbole and misrepresentation are poor efforts to gain proponents for your ideas. 

Why is the media surprised tat Gingrich and the rest of the GOP is racist? Where the heck have they been all my life? Where have they been during the Obama Administration?

I AM WONDERING WHY REPUBLICANS WHO ARE AGAINST BIG GOVERNMENT AND REGULATIONS AND THEY TALK ABOUT PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTIES WHEN IT COMES TO ABORTION THEY WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN.
WHY THEY DON’T PREACH MOTHERS AND DOCTORS NOT TO COMMIT ABORTION BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT DOESN’T WORK. HOW THEY EXPECT THE BIG CORPORATION GO WITH NO REGULATION AND LISTEN TO PREACHES.
I AM PRO LIFE BUT I THINK KILLING WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN IRAQ AND GAZAH IS AS BAD AS KILLING UNBORN BABIES.
HUMAN BEING NEEDS REGULATIONS AND THE JURIDICIARY SYSTEM TO BACK IT UP. NO MATTER IF THE LAW IS BRAKE BY A THIFE OR BY A BIG CORPORATION AND BANK.

Save some of that half-gallon bottle of vodka for later…Badralsadat Madani

Newt NEVER said “black people”…It was the liberals who wrote that in thereby making them racists.
GOTCHA!!

I believe you have that backwards. It’s conservatives who can’t win on their ideas, well, because they have none. Their plan is to take us back pre-Civil War and to continue the same conservative economic policies that have destroyed the economy and have us mired in debt.

Well, actually, I hear people preaching against abortion practically every day.  There are federal laws to prevent people from preaching against abortion too close to an abortion clinic.

By the way, you might want to google “caps lock.”

Jack you are so full of shit your eyes are brown, why do you neocons keep trying to re-write American history? It won’t work you know and BTW did you know that calling for succession is treason? Probably not just as you will never support the parts of the constitution that do not support your fucked up ideology. Then when you claim that 60% of the American people think the way you do?? Really? I mean really??? I guess we will find out come November. Will you move to Canada if Obama wins re-election??…. please!

I’m sure you were a frequent guest at those freak shows, you seem to be an expert…

OMG!!!
Don’t curse on the air…Chris.
MSNBC will suspend you for a couple of days….make you apologize and then give you a raise.

you cant even say a bad word on the interweb. What an idiot.

To CosmosDan

“At one point he says President Obama has put more people on food stamps.” 
Immediately post a link to the clip where Newt says THAT. 

Since you seem to like attributing vile motives to statements you’ve stupidly misinterpreted, we must attribute your failure to provide video evidence to corroborate your above statement to YOU stupidly thinking no one will call you on your vile LIE.

Provide evidence that Gingrich phrased his point like this. Immediately.

Newt CLEARLY meant that Obama has been such an enormous failure as President & the economy has been so dismally bad under his “leadership” that more Americans (of all races) are now on foodstamps than under any President in history.

Facts that make liberals uncomfortable are SOOOO RACIST!

Bush is the Food Stamp President. Newt
Gingrich claims that “more people have been put on food stamps by Barack
Obama than any president in American history.” He’s wrong. More were added
under Bush than under Obama, according to the most recent figures.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/story/2012-01-18/fact-check-gingrich-obama-food-stamps/52645882/1

why don’t you go and figure out how much your ancestors owe them for that poor work ethic when they did all of their work for them for nothing

Thanks Dan. To lumps group of people together and insult them is a disgrace to humanity,  Sorry, no more Newt for me. Next time he goes to his adulterers anonymous meeting, maybe someone will have a little talk with him on respecting other people. You know, the golden rule Jesus talked about,

You missed the point.

go tell that to the american indians, or the hawaiians.

Gingrich, like his god reagan, reaches out to the latent racist in southerners who have experienced the erosion of white privilege. Reagan opened his 1980 campaign in neshoba county Mississippi, which has 1 claim to fame-The site of the lynching of civil rights workers schwerner goodman and chaney 20 years before. He railed against fictional welfare queens and affirmative action. Newt was an eyewitness and is not afraid to follow the blueprint set by his lord and master Ronnie by attacking poor black people as lazy. Black people who were brought here to perform the hard work that whites wouldn’t do and without pay. Blacks who pick up the garbage and sweep the halls and unclog toilets and lay the bricks and also work in the fields in far higher numbers than whites. But this fat sack of excrement who hasn’t broken a sweat outside of some exclusive gym in years has the nerve to call poor people lazy because they don’t violate child labor laws?.

Is this the party black people should be flocking to? Why? So they can be insulted in person? People like Newt and Romney and Santorum are the reason that even upper middle class blacks in higher tax brackets cannot  support most republicans. Because the Republican party does not exist as a national power without making politics into a racial call to arms. Every four years. Without fail and this year it will be the same even without Niggerhead Perry or Michelle blackpeoplewerebetteroffduringslavery Bachmann.

Don’t you people get tired of crying about racism when your race is 70% of the electorate?

Wow Lucas, maybe you should do a little research before you post to avoid lobbing one right over the plate.
Here , on Mediaiite , when Newt is responding to Juan Williams at the debate, he says

” The fact is {which is funny because he’s about to be factually incorrect in his next statement} more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama, than any president in American history”

What was that you were saying about facts? Let’s see if you’re enough of an adult to admit you were wrong and apoplogize for calling me a liar. I won’t even ask you to do it IMMEDIALTELY.

Newt CLEARLY meant that Obama has been such an enormous failure as
President & the economy has been so dismally bad under his
“leadership” that more Americans (of all races) are now on foodstamps
than under any President in history.

I wanted to deal with this seperately.
 
I understand his point, which is still politcal and
disingenious. He ignores that a large % of people on food stamps already
have a pay check. His original comment made in New Hampshire, “more people are on food stamps today because of Obama’s policies than ever in history.”Speaking of uncomfortable facts.  He ignores the fact that the recession that threw so
many people out of work happened before Obama took office, or that wages
for the working class have been on the decline in relation to
inflation, for over a decade. After 8 years of GOP policy under Bush his parting gift was the worst recession since the grerat deression. The GOP has managed to convince it’s base to blame the burning of our economy on the firemen who entered the blazing building left by the previous admin. They’ve spent the last three years screaming, “What it isn’t out yet? the building isn’t rebuilt yet? Obviously that measn all the damage is your fault”
Some of us know better. The polities of an 8 year GOP president share a lot of the blame for the number of people on food stamps.

Here’s the bizarre conflict of Newt’s comments. When he explains his comments he says janitors in NYC make an obscene amount of money {because of the disgusting unions} that should be distributed to 30 kids.
Newt Gingrich, who earned his millions how exactly,with a what, 1/2 million dollar credit line at Tiffiney’s saying janitors make an obscene amount of money. It’s a bad joke right?And the audience cheered him. Not because he’s right, but because he’s blaming the people they also want to blame. That’s a very old manipulative game  It’s bizarre because somewhere in there he makes a valid point. It is good for young people to have jobs, learn a work ethic, and certainly poor families should welcome additional income. The problem is he doesn’t have enough humility to even entertain  his words were poorly chosen and might have offended some people. Instead his poltical strategy is to attack the media. It’s poltical theater for his own sake.
Newt said his love of America was so great , he worked so hard, that he did things that were inappropriate. {cheating on his wives, serving divorce papers in the hospital} I’m concerned that he loves America soooo very much, that if he gets to be president he’ll F#@* us all.

Could you provide some evidence for that?

I greatly appreciate you taking the time to clarify with facts. Details and accuracy matter and people whould learn to value them and seek them out.

I couldn’t help but notice that you provided NOTHING, in the  way of documented relevant evidence to back up your claim.  Dispelling popular misconceptions with factual details is a positive activity regardless of your politics Rants and personal insults, not so much.

I think his reference did include everyone on food stamps , but is is strange that he then singled out the AA community. He went from jobs instead of food stamps, {even though a lot of people on food stamps already have jobs} to Soical Security and mentioned that AA males get the least benefit from SS because their life spans are shorter.
IMO, it wasn’t overtly racist. It was just poorly phrased. It’s too bad his ego is so much greater than his humility or he might have just apologized and explained more clearly.
For a rich white politician to be talking about the AA comminity’s lack of work ethic and being satisfied with food stamps , to a white audience , is a bad choice.

You’re wrong. Wanting it to be so doesn’t make it so. Obviously one can’t blame Obama for how he took office, but ONE SHOULD BLAME HIM for what he’s done, nor not done in office.

Cosmos, thanks for the level headed reply, and I agree with your concluding paragraph.

The difference between you and I is that I rarely make claims that are not supported by facts.  You call me a revisionist, but you can only say this because you have not studied history beyond your HS textbook.  History is what it is, if true history bothers you then maybe you should remain ignorant but please do not try and impune my integrity with your own laziness or lack of knowledge.

I give you two links that if you care to learn more about our countries past then these should help to open your eyes just a little bit, but there are serious books written on our history that have never made it into class rooms, and they are easily found from a variety of sources.
and many can be downloaded as pdf files for free.  They are well worth the time it takes to read them.

Lincoln’s plan…   

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/9/book-lincoln-sought-to-deport-freed-slaves/?page=all

The South Carolina Exposition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Exposition_and_Protest 

Thanks Dan, I know that yours and my politics are different, but I appreciate that we can have discussions that actually cause each other to take a moment and think..  You and I have conversed before when my Avatar was Fed-up and you have made points that have helped me to understand differences in our politics in a positive manner.  
At any I supplied Shannon with some links that if he really is interested in learning they would be a good start to open him to further reading on the subjects. 

I wish I lived in the world you lived in.  It sounds so pleasant there.

“The whole reason for the existence of the NAACP!!!”
Yup, anyone who fights against racism is automatically racist for daring to say that racism exists.  Got it.  

No, blacks switched party affiliations after the democrats  passed the civil rights legislation.  And then the republicans implemented the policy of stoking white fear of blacks knows as the “Southern Strategy”.  

There I fixed it for you. 

I am guessing you are either too young or too stupid to know that Southern DEMS had instituted a filibuster of the Civil Rights Act and that Repubs voted in a much higher percentage in support of the Act than did Dems.  I will chalk it up to youth, not stupidity.

Thanks Dan, I know that yours and my politics are different, but I
appreciate that we can have discussions that actually cause each other
to take a moment and think.

You are sincerely welcome. I’m convinced that conservatives and liberals need each other for balance and to aid each other in exploring real world solutions to problems. Instead time seems to be spent looking for personal or political victory.
It’s important to acknowledge the limits of our knowledge and that we all have plenty to learn. Facts and details are important and relevant  in finding those solutions.  We may diifer on our interpretation of what the facts mean , but we certainly shouldn’t reject the facts themsleves.
I too appreciate a repsectful discussion and find I always learn a little more, and grow a little more, from exchanges with informed people who happen to disagree with me. For that I thank you.

This is what passes for “intellect” in today’s young people?

God help us.

Chris, you are certainly entitled to think of comments about work to be “racist” if you like. BUT, if accusations of RACISM are used to cut off debate about some very key challenges facing our society (specifically, the idea that single-family homes – father missing, mother on welfare — risk the possibility of children not developing the work ethic which is absolutely essential to success in school and employment, we may as well pack it in as a nation and turn the keys over to the Chinese, who expect nothing but starvation if they fail to work.)

The larger question is the extent to which large-scale social programs have, as an unintended consequence, the development of an entitlement mentality among 2nd generation recipients. That question is not racist at its core, although a disproportionate (but not a majority!) number of those recipients are minorities.

Worse was this Melissa bimbo, who somehow got the idea that Newt was attacking Juan personally, when in fact Juan was simply a proxy for the lefitst status-quo idea that society should be about equality of outcome rather than opportunity. 

Pitiful.

I will gladly compare his record to that of the President when he was running for office.

Yoooooo HOooooo Lucas. Still waiting for you to acknowledge you were wrong and aplogize for calling me a liar.  I know you want to because I can sense you’re an honorable adult type person.

Chris Hayes’ twin works at MSNBC also. He’s on at 9PM

Don’t expect the South to EVER become comfortable with a black President  for at least another 50-years!  They owned MY People, Beat My People, Killed My People, and owed their Prosperity to the hard work and  perseverance of My People.  My ancestors did not come through Ellis Island.  They came shackled in chains in the belly of Ships, and were bought and sold like Cattle!  It will take most of this century for this stain on America to be forgotten.  Isn’t it amazing that the Republican Party constantly shows its RACIST feelings through the CODE that all of us African-Americans recognize instantly, although most Whites swear they don’t see the racial aspect. My Grandmother always said ‘time heals all wounds’.  That may apply to Blacks but not necessarily to Southern Whites. However, I am not an angry Black man. I have enjoyed all the good things that began to be offered by the Government from  the 1950′s thru 1990′s. The G.I. Bill for my Education and complete Integration in our Society along with excellent employment and retirement. Racism is not about the G.O.P. & DEMs because the Racists move from one party to another when it suits their purpose.  Which brings me to my final point;  it pains me to see Black People purporting to be Republicans on T.V. espousing the Republican talking points and PRETENDING not to see or recognize the RACIST Policies of the G.O.P!

You’re a pimple on Chris’ ass when it comes to intellect…and I can see you’re like many right wingers in that you ignore causes and simply focus on effects. 

Mac691 seems to think that what happened a half-century ago is more relevant than what has happened in the intervening time. How typical.

Paulo M seems to think that the perpetrators of racism should get a pass.   I would guess that you also give Charlie Manson a pass since that happened nearly 50 years ago.  While you are at it, why don’t you give the Nazis a pass, since that was more than 50 years ago.  And not to leave your heroes out, give Mao and Stalin a pass, since their murder of 150million people was 50 years ago.   Oh, make sure that you ignore real actual racism, as perpetrated by  your side, and concentrate on that imagined racism.   You know, the kind that is told in “code words” that only enlightened lefitists can understand (perhaps because real racists know and understand all of the “code words.”)  Yeah, give  yourselves a pass, and condemn the party founded for the purpose of ending slavery.