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MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow On Anticipated End Of Mubarak’s Rule: “This Is A Berlin Wall Moment”

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The news came without warning Thursday: reports that Egypt’s president Hosni Mubarak would step down, giving in to the demands of protesters who have called for change after decades of Mubarak’s rule. On MSNBC, Rachel Maddow watched the flag-waving crowds gathered in Tahrir Square–crowds anticipating a speech by Mubarak announcing the end of his rule–and commented on the history unfolding live: “To see this kind of exuberance and joy…when you look at it sort of glass half full, it’s a Berlin Wall kind of moment,” she said. These are images we never thought we’d see in our lifetime.”

Maddow, like other observers, noted the undercurrent of concern in the jubilant crowds–that uncertaintly over what happens next brings a degree of “danger” to the potential change in leadership. “It is a dangerous moment, it is a beautiful moment, but the world will never be the same,” Maddow said.

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  • The Real Royal King

    On first reading, that seem a bit hyperbolic to me, but if this spreads throughout the Middle East, who knows? Can you imagine a democratic Saudi Arabia? Not likely, I suppose, but a nice thought.

  • screwauger

    “It is a dangerous moment, it is a beautiful moment, but the world will never be the same,” Maddow said.

    Wow, this equates to journalism? A never end fountain or enjoyment. I have never been more proud to be a Conservative, Fox News watching, Patriotic American!!

  • joe7

    I don’t find it comparable to the “Berlin Wall moment”. It more like another dictatorship losing its unpopular leader. There is no bi polar system where Egypt is an authoritarian super power. This is just people in the media trying to make the story more appealing by drawing obscure comparison to monumental events. I am not sure if its her poor comparative skills, or trying to make the most intriguing story.

  • screwauger

    “ending fountain of” sheesh

  • The Real Royal King

    screwauger said:
    I have never been more proud to be a Conservative, Fox News watching, Patriotic American!!

    So, you take pride in ignorance? Most FOX “News” viewers do.

    joe7 said:
    There is no bi polar system where Egypt is an authoritarian super power.

    What is that suppose to mean? A bi-polar system?

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    Mubarak to retire – NOT A SURPRISE, he’s the ONLY person on Earth with a retirement plan that’s better than that of America’s “public-service” union members – he’s got 20 – 40+ BILLION dollars of US taxpayer money stashed away.

  • Harry Flashman

    A “Berlin Wall Moment”.

    Its a thought worth some consideration, but it begs some other questions that really should be answered first….

    Where was all this media coverage during the short lived Iranian protests? Oh, there was coverage, but it was short lived, nothing like this.

    Where is that coverage now that Iran is executing one person every eight hours since the uprising if you average it out?

    Where was the outrage when Iran cut off the internet, the social networking, and cell phone service?

    Where was the Obama Administration with it’s puffed up set of values while Iran was brutalizing it’s own citizens with torture, murder, and rape every single day.

    (Briefly – some blog coverage was better than almost anything the netwirks did. One blogger over at the Huffington Post did an outstanding job, and I don’t give HuffPo credit for much but that was excellent.)

    I’m not minimizing what’s happening in Egypt. I’m just wondering why one popular revolution got this dramatic coverage while another was allowed to wither and die on the vine at the cost of the citizens there.

    Can anyone answer that for me? Then maybe we can discuss what a “Berlin Wall” moment this was in Egypt.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Whoooooops, another lib jumps to conclusions. Poor Maddow, a fool again.

    By the way, human climate change is a hoax.

    BACK TO SOME REAL NEWS

    CONTIGUOUS UNITED STATES
    Climate Summary
    January 2011

    The average temperature in January 2011 was 30.0 F. This was -0.8 F cooler than the 1901-2000 (20th century) average, the 37th coolest January in 117 years. The temperature trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is 0.1 degrees Fahrenheit per decade.

    1.48 inches of precipitation fell in January. This was -0.74 inches less than the 1901-2000 average, the 9th driest such month on record. The precipitation trend for the period of record (1895 to present) is -0.01 inches per decade.

    Georgia eyes coldest winter ever
    Tue, 2011-02-08 07:44
    Byline: By Pam Knox, University of Georgia
    Despite heavier-than-normal snowfall, precipitation amounts were below normal, increasing drought conditions across Georgia.
    Cold temperatures and heavy snow crippled north Georgia in January. Despite heavier-than-normal snowfall, precipitation amounts were below normal, increasing drought conditions across the state.
    Georgia’s temperature was significantly below normal last month. In Atlanta, the monthly average temperature was 40.2 degrees F (2.5 degrees below normal), in Athens 39.7 degrees (2.5 degrees below normal), Columbus 43.6 degrees (3.2 degrees below normal), Macon 42 degrees (3.5 degrees below normal), Savannah 45.1 degrees (4.1 degrees below normal), Brunswick 49.1 degrees (2.6 degrees below normal), Alma 44.9 degrees (6.8 degrees below normal), Valdosta 47.3 degrees (2.6 degrees below normal) and Augusta 41.7 degrees (3.1 degrees below normal).
    If colder-than-normal temperatures continue into February, this winter could possibly set records for the coldest winter ever in some parts of Georgia. Record low temperatures were set at Macon, Savannah and Alma Jan. 14. Macon reported 16 degrees, breaking the old record of 19 degrees set that date in 1970. Savannah and Alma reported 18 degrees, surpassing the old records of 20 degrees set at both locations in 1964.

    Bartlesville ties Oklahoma state record for low temperature, Tulsa ties city record

    BARTLESVILLE, Okla. – Records amount of snow have fallen across the state, and now records for low temperatures are starting to fall too.
    In fact, some temperatures across the state Thursday morning were lower than North Pole, Alaska, which was a balmy 16 degrees.
    In Bartlesville, the temperature reached 28 degrees below 0, an all-time record for Oklahoma. It also sets an all-time record for the city.
    The previous state record was -27 in Watts in 1930 and -27 in Vinita in 1909.
    Tulsa has been as cold as 9 below which a daily record for the city, the coldest temperature in Tulsa in 15 years.
    The record for the Tulsa is -16 set an all-time record on January 22, 1930.

  • Harry Flashman

    Um, hey Gordon….

    I thought this thread was about Egypt, not the weather in Oklahoma. People usually wait until at least the second or third pages of a comment thread before spinning off into a personal bitch-slap fight or another subject all together.

    Just…thought I’d mention that.

  • Alz

    Maddow is an idiot. This is no Berlin Wall moment. It’s a victory for Socialists and Islamists, not people who want and love freedom! All you hear about is “change”, but never any depth of what it will change to.

  • juan

    MADDDOW IS PROBABLY PART OF THIS! A-MESS-NBC Is in DENIAL -

     Social Networking and Far Left Radicals
    More Disturbing Associations Coming from Movements.org

    The unrest in Egypt has brought out many troubling associations in the past few weeks, followed by many unanswered questions. As outlined earlier this week in a piece by Judi McLeod, the State Dept. along with Google, Twitter and many corporate sponsors, have been backing Movements.org, where overseas radicals have been trained in using social networking to organize revolution. Following the continued activities of Movements.org, I have been disturbed to find further associations with anarchists, socialist groups and others whose main goal is the destruction of capitalism.

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/33178

  • Harry Flashman

    Alz said:

    “Maddow is an idiot”

    See? That’s better.

  • Alz

    Harry Flashman said:
    A “Berlin Wall Moment”.

    Its a thought worth some consideration, but it begs some other questions that really should be answered first….

    Where was all this media coverage during the short lived Iranian protests? Oh, there was coverage, but it was short lived, nothing like this.

    Where is that coverage now that Iran is executing one person every eight hours since the uprising if you average it out?

    Where was the outrage when Iran cut off the internet, the social networking, and cell phone service?

    Where was the Obama Administration with it’s puffed up set of values while Iran was brutalizing it’s own citizens with torture, murder, and rape every single day.

    (Briefly – some blog coverage was better than almost anything the netwirks did. One blogger over at the Huffington Post did an outstanding job, and I don’t give HuffPo credit for much but that was excellent.)

    I’m not minimizing what’s happening in Egypt. I’m just wondering why one popular revolution got this dramatic coverage while another was allowed to wither and die on the vine at the cost of the citizens there.

    Can anyone answer that for me? Then maybe we can discuss what a “Berlin Wall” moment this was in Egypt.

    Exact;y.

    It won’t be too long before people miss Mubarak.

  • Pablo

    Big Historical Thing With Cheering = Berlin Wall. Stick to snarking at Republicans, Rachel. It’s where you shine.

  • Harry Flashman

    Alz:

    I strongly suspect you’re right.

    Unless the military takes over, at least long enough for a transition to take place, Egypt wil probably fall into chaos, which is nirvana for the islamists.

    The reason I went into that Iran rant was because Iran represented the one real chance that the entire region had for real democracy. Had the people won the mullahs would have fallen. Other countries would have followed suit. It would have been the end of the muslim theocracies in the region.

    Our government sat with it’s collective thunb wedged firmly up it’s ass and did nothing to aid or encourage the one best shot at freeing the region from the iron grip of the Islamists. And now Obama wants to give the world moral lessons on Egypt.

    Spare me.

  • timzank

    How’s she going to shape the narrative when the cheering is over and the dust settles and those poor bastards are no more “free” than the Iranian people?

    It won’t even be on her radar screen when the next “regime” settles in and the people are right back where they were or worse.

  • NORBIT

    Oh Yea Rach!

    I don’t recall you, or any of your MSNBC co-hosts, railing against the tyrannical Regime of Mubarak all these years…and now it’s a Berlin Wall Moment!

    You progressives are so caught up in your bitterness and hate, that on actual issues you’re always a day late and a dollar short!

    Hey Rach, how long before you get that call from Current TV?

  • Harry Flashman

    NORBIT’S point……

    “I don’t recall you, or any of your MSNBC co-hosts, railing against the tyrannical Regime of Mubarak all these years…and now it’s a Berlin Wall Moment!”

    ….illustrates that Maddow and most of the rest of the MSNBC pack are opportunists, not journalists.

  • blurgh.

    Alz said:
    Maddow is an idiot. This is no Berlin Wall moment. It’s a victory for Socialists and Islamists, not people who want and love freedom! All you hear about is “change”, but never any depth of what it will change to.

    Presidential power for almost 30 years is freedom? Obama 2036.

  • Dave Richards

    The Real Royal King said:
    So, you take pride in ignorance? Most FOX “News” viewers do. What is that suppose to mean? A bi-polar system?

    The idiot speaks.

  • valkyrie101

    Harry Flashman said:
    A “Berlin Wall Moment”. Its a thought worth some consideration, but it begs some other questions that really should be answered first…. Where was all this media coverage during the short lived Iranian protests? Oh, there was coverage, but it was short lived, nothing like this. Where is that coverage now that Iran is executing one person every eight hours since the uprising if you average it out? Where was the outrage when Iran cut off the internet, the social networking, and cell phone service? Where was the Obama Administration with it’s puffed up set of values while Iran was brutalizing it’s own citizens with torture, murder, and rape every single day. (Briefly – some blog coverage was better than almost anything the netwirks did. One blogger over at the Huffington Post did an outstanding job, and I don’t give HuffPo credit for much but that was excellent.) I’m not minimizing what’s happening in Egypt. I’m just wondering why one popular revolution got this dramatic coverage while another was allowed to wither and die on the vine at the cost of the citizens there. Can anyone answer that for me? Then maybe we can discuss what a “Berlin Wall” moment this was in Egypt.

    In fact the whole world followed the Iran protests too.

  • Olby Sucks

    I’m sending out a twitter that I demand obama to step down, immediately.

    We’ll see if he’s as accommodating and sympathetic as he is with the demands made in egypt by the “protesters.”. ;)

  • OxyCon

    Gee, it’s really hard to see where Madcow is going with this. She’s just waiting to make sure things go well in Egypt, then she’s going to start proclaiming that this is “Obama’s Berlin Wall” moment. You watch.

  • im_lovin_it

    “It is a dangerous moment, it is a beautiful moment, but the world will never be the same,” Maddow said.

    Nothing she said here is false. I don’t understand why this woman generates so much scorn. Has she ever just yelled and screamed like Olberman did? Sometimes she gets a little snarky, but so what? A little humor is better than acting like some bellicose freak on TV. MSNBC is largely pathetic these days and I cringe every time I see Maddow do some expose on Fox. I cringe because I really think she’s better than that.

  • http://www.perceptionasreality.blogspot.com/ skoorbekim

    I wonder if there will be gay marriage in Egypt anytime soon…
    There is in Berlin…

  • Olby Sucks

    skoorbekim said:
    I wonder if there will be gay marriage in Egypt anytime soon…
    There is in Berlin…

    Excellent point.

  • Ninja

    This lady needs to really re-visit the history of the Berlin Wall. To compare the events surrounding the fall of the Berlin Wall to a dictator being overthrown is just not a very intelligent thing to say.

  • Olby Sucks

    Ninja said:
    This lady needs to really re-visit the history of the Berlin Wall. To compare the events surrounding the fall of the Berlin Wall to a dictator being overthrown is just not a very intelligent thing to say.

    Isn’t that ugly hack a “rhodes scholar?”

  • OxyCon

    skoorbekim said:
    I wonder if there will be gay marriage in Egypt anytime soon…
    There is in Berlin…

    The only connection between Berlin and Egypt is the collaboration of the Muslim Brotherhood and the Nazis during WWII.

  • Harry Flashman

    valkyrie said:

    “In fact the whole world followed the Iran protests too.”

    Yeah, they did to a limited extent. But when Iran cracked down, and cracked down hard the coverage dribbled away to little or nothing where it lingers to this day.

    I realize that you and I stand on opposite sides of the bridge on many issues, but can you honestly compare this to the coverage – and the empathy – that the Iranian uprising got?

    No snark. Honest question.

  • BatBoy

    MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow On Anticipated End Of Mubarak’s Rule: “This Is A Berlin Wall Moment”

    Somebody at MessNBC and the White House too. Here this was in the grasp of OBAMA..his speech “r Mubarak tear down this wall!” was written, the MSNBC cheerleading section was geared up and this….
    Mubarak is staying.

    Those dictators, you just can’t trust them to do what you want them to do.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    Harry Flashman said:
    Um, hey Gordon…. I thought this thread was about Egypt, not the weather in Oklahoma. People usually wait until at least the second or third pages of a comment thread before spinning off into a personal bitch-slap fight or another subject all together. Just…thought I’d mention that.

    Since this story was not true, I thought I would get to real news. Mubarak is NOT stepping down tonight.
    Since Maddow talks nonsense, why not talk weather?

  • Alz

    Harry Flashman said:
    Alz:

    I strongly suspect you’re right.

    Unless the military takes over, at least long enough for a transition to take place, Egypt wil probably fall into chaos, which is nirvana for the islamists.

    The reason I went into that Iran rant was because Iran represented the one real chance that the entire region had for real democracy. Had the people won the mullahs would have fallen. Other countries would have followed suit. It would have been the end of the muslim theocracies in the region.

    Our government sat with it’s collective thunb wedged firmly up it’s ass and did nothing to aid or encourage the one best shot at freeing the region from the iron grip of the Islamists. And now Obama wants to give the world moral lessons on Egypt.

    Spare me.

    Yes. Obama didn’t support real democratic change in Iran, but a) he is supporting the Socialists and Islamists and b) he is not supporting any real Democratic change.

    The reason Obama just uses the word “change” is because he really means to Socialism and he doesn’t want to say it because people don’t like it.

  • Alz

    blurgh. said:
    Presidential power for almost 30 years is freedom? Obama 2036.

    No one said Mubarak represents freedom, but he has represented some stability. When the Left talks about changing Egypt so it has freedom, they should say what they mean. Exactly how does the Muslim brotherhood represent freedom? And what about the Socialists?

    As I said “It won’t be too long before people miss Mubarak.” Let’s see what happens, but we seem t be assured that Obama is doing the wrong thing.

  • valkyrie101

    Harry Flashman said:
    valkyrie said: “In fact the whole world followed the Iran protests too.” Yeah, they did to a limited extent. But when Iran cracked down, and cracked down hard the coverage dribbled away to little or nothing where it lingers to this day. I realize that you and I stand on opposite sides of the bridge on many issues, but can you honestly compare this to the coverage – and the empathy – that the Iranian uprising got? No snark. Honest question.

    Yes.

  • CAconservative

    No, it’s not a Berlin type moment, it’s an American Revolution type moment.

  • http://ja-js.blogtownhall.com RME KRNL

    What an idiot! No, it’s not a “Berlin Wall moment,” Ms. Madcow.

    Egypt has never had the reach, power or influence that the former USSR had. Egypt’s influence has been regional, in the Middle East. The USSR’s influence was worldwide.

    Another attempt to stretch logic — and facts — to make a liberal point.

  • X-3

    MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow On Anticipated End Of Mubarak’s Rule: “This Is A Berlin Wall Moment”

    Mr. Mubarak, tear down this pyramid.

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