1. Mediaite
  2. Gossip Cop
  3. Geekosystem
  4. Styleite
  5. SportsGrid
  6. The Mary Sue
  7. The Jane Dough

NBC Did Breach Conan’s Contract – Here’s Why

» 9 comments

I haven’t practiced law for about six years. I left the profession because I hated working in a big law firm and anyway, I wanted to write. But I loved law school, and one of my favorite subjects was Contracts, with the inestimable Professor Trebilcock. (Yes, we did make jokes. But we loved him.) What I remember from class is the why of contracts — yes the law should keep people from murdering each other, but why should the law care about your business deal? Or your bait and switch? Or your Carbolic Smoke Ball? Well, society can’t function on the basis of broken promises and reneged-on deals, otherwise no one would ever do anything before they were paid, and no one else would ever pay before anyone had done anything, so nothing would get done. In order for life to move briskly along, distributors needed to know they would be paid for bringing you food and contractors needed to know they would get paid for building you buildings, etc. etc. etc. Making deals means not making other deals — making a deal over here means giving something up over there. You can’t be on NBC if you’ve accepted an offer from, say, Fox — so in order to turn down Fox, you need to be able to rely on NBC. Which brings us to Conan.

1. 11:35 p.m.

I found Bill Carter‘s Sept. 27, 2004 article about the Conan-Leno Tonight Show enormously fascinating. It perfectly encapsulated the situation as it was back then — and the media universe in which that deal was struck. Here’s one sentence that stuck out for me immediately:

Mr. O’Brien, with his own contract set to expire in January of 2006, had made it plain in interviews that his goal was to be the host of an 11:35 p.m. late-night show soon.

This is a key sentence, because it addresses NBC’s main point: That they did not breach their contract, because they offered to keep Conan O’Brien as host of the Tonight Show — whenever it aired. O’Brien’s camp has maintained that the Tonight Show is indivisible from that 11:35 p.m. start time.

Ay, there’s the rub: Because apparently Conan’s contract never specified that timeslot. (I have not seen the contract, I am going off the reports cited.) Per TMZ:

We’re told Conan’s reps never even asked for a guaranteed time period when they negotiated his contract — shocking, but true… As for Conan’s legal position, his claim is a lot more tenuous than first reported to us. We’re told Conan is arguing — given the history of “The Tonight Show” — there is an “implied” guarantee the show would begin at 11:35.

While it’s certainly always preferable to get it in writing, contracts can’t include everything. Indeed, the reason that contract law exists is in large part to interpret the unwritten elements of a contract when it runs up against unexpected circumstances. Fancy, expensive lawyers can try, but they’ll never think of everything — like, say, the implosion of the media world as we know it, and the cost-cutting decisions that would be made as a result. Not imagined in 2004. So our task is now to apply 2004 intentions to this crazy new world in 2010.

I disagree with TMZ — I don’t think Conan’s claim is tenuous. At all. On the contrary, not only is there a sound argument for 11:35 being indivisible from the historic Tonight Show brand, there is explicit evidence that makes it clear that the 11:35 p.m. start time was explicitly demanded by O’Brien’s camp — and that NBC explicitly knew that. Carter’s 2004 comment about O’Brien making it plain in interviews that he wanted that 11:35 timeslot is a good start — but better is to actually have a quote. So, here’s an earlier piece by Bill Carter, from April 4, 2004:

Gavin Polone, Mr. O’Brien’s manager and long-time friend, puts it in the plainest terms. ”There’s just no question that he’s going to be on earlier than 12:30,” he says. ”He’s going to 11:30. It’s going to happen.”

There it is: the late-night star at 12:30 is pondering a move to 11:30 (it’s really 12:35 and 11:35, rounded off for convenience).

Carter’s piece is called “Conan’s Late Start.” “11:30″ is mentioned 3 times before that clarification, followed by 7 mentions of “11:35.” Oh, there’s more: Carter refers to it as “the coveted 11:30 period, made famous by Jack Paar and Johnny Carson”; lest we miss the point of just how important that 11:35 slot is, Carter also calls it “the prize” and “that hour-earlier dream.”

Ahem. Who said that the start time didn’t matter?

It matters — and it mattered, too, in drawing a distinction between Conan and David Letterman, whose exit from NBC and that 12:35 a.m. timeslot had been so bitter. Said Conan to Carter, then:

Mr. O’Brien takes pains to point out the distinctions. ”The difference with Dave, which even NBC will admit, is that there was no way Dave could continue to do the job at 12:30 with Jay as the ‘Tonight’ show host, because they were peers. I’m 15 years younger. With me at 12:30, you can still feel there’s order in the heavens somewhat.”

That may have been true in 2004, but in 2010, Conan had officially ascended. And the 11:35 timeslot was clearly part of that.

>>>NEXT: The Looming Threat of Leno

Follow us on Twitter.

Sign up for Mediaite's daily newsletter.

Pages: 1 2

Email Twitter Facebook Digg Reddit Stumble Upon Yahoo Buzz LinkedIn Tumblr Delicious
  • Rachel Sklar

    Richard Goldberg (@richardgoldberg) raised a good point on Twitter: Whether the Parol Evidence Rule applies. The parol evidence rule prevents people from coming back to a contract and saying “Wait wait wait I forgot about this!” and changing the agreed-upon terms of the contract, or adding to it. However, the 11:35 question does not “add” to the contract, nor does it “change” it — the contract is simply silent on it, leaving it open to interpretation. Evidence that is extrinsic to the contract can be used to resolve ambiguities and aid with interpretation of terms. Based on my above analysis, I think it’s admissable here. Wikipedia is helpful here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parol_evidence_rule

    NB I should have made it clear that I have NOT read the contract. I will add that above.

  • er

    Ms. Sklar,

    I’m loving your series of articles on this subject. I can’t get enough. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • Cactus

    Oof. I now feel foolish for my offhand little comment on the case I made on your prior column.

    Incredibly well-put, and a definitive retort to the various bloggers and reporters who have written “it wasn’t written down, NBC can do whatever they want!”

    I’d still like to see someone make NBC’s case; it would probably have to be based on changing viewer customs, how networks now change timeslots for shows with impunity, and so forth. But even then, you’ve already destroyed that argument.

    This whole saga illustrates Restatement (2nd) §20(2) better than anything currently in casebooks.

  • http://www.sailrabbits.com Magister

    You would think that the first step in analyzing a contract would be to have actually read it, but obviously you bring up some good points and along with trying to stem the tide of bad publicity, it probably explains why NBC is so willing to settle.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Guo/100000649950349 James Guo
  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-J-Lederer/575073382 Andrew J. Lederer

    Actually, a half-hour Leno show at 11:35 would not be The Tonight Show in any sense, while a 12:05 hour from Conan, format intact, could be construed a such.

  • Andy1619

    To Rachel Sklar:

    In response to this column and your comments on CNN with Howard Kurtz, it is clear that you are on defense for Conan.

    NBC did make a couple of mistakes: they thought Conan would bring in a big audience at 11:35pm (he didn’t); and they didn’t realize how big an impact Leno’s show at 10pm would have on the 11pm local news. NBC execs are not villains for making such mistakes; not too many of us can predict human behavior, nor can we predict the future.

    CONAN, on the other hand, MADE ENORMOUS PREDICTABLE BLUNDERS, which were due in my view to his arrogance, obstinacy, egomania, and blindness to his own faults. I personally had PREDICTED DISASTER FOR CONAN if he didn’t change his ways, and I gave him DETAILED ADVICE and analysis beginning over 8 months ago and spanning over 3O WEB PAGES OF COMMENTS as to how to avoid failure. My comments are here:
    http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/video/clips/an-important-message-from-conan-obrien/1094769/
    (I was hoping that Conan would succeed, and I thought he had a shot at being better than Carson.)

    I also showed that even in spite of his disaster, Conan has refused to learn from the situation. Those comments are here:
    http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/insider/2010/01/22/somewhere-over-the-rainbow/#comment

    Bottom line: Conan failed due to his arrogance and comedic incompetence; he was badly beaten by Letterman, even in his so-called demographic. And the reports are that his audience in his so-called demographic was even smaller than Leno’s. Seven months are enough to prove failure. It is utterly SHAMELESS TO BLAME LENO FOR CONAN’S FAILURE. Aren’t Conan’s fans (called Conan-bots by me, and Cult Conan by others) smart enough to change the channel if they happen to be on another network at 11:30? And Conan got paid enough for the alleged breach by NBC. I have no sympathy for Conan, because he has no respect for the intelligence of the American public.

    Some of Leno’s material may be dull-witted, but it is quite an accomplishment to stay on top for over 15 years. When he returns he will do as well as ever before.

    If you have some specific factual answers to my analysis, I would like to see them. Just to declare that Conan is cool and hip is not an answer — it is an opinion not shared by people with intelligence.

  • corvin81

    Hey, Good evening as i absolutely love your nice article, I woudl be glad if you would like to me post a review on your awesome website in my little Blog Site would you say yes?

    XoX, John Peds
    Author of how to cook salmon

  • jennielynsan

    This is remarkable of the best blogs in the field of educational activity. If I don’t came in for a couple of days, there are so many stakes that it’ll make me a couple of hrs just to go over whatsoever I missed!! Praises.

    Thanks. great wonderful info(information) here keep up Culinary Skills Egg Salad Recipe French Onion Soup Recipe the great worked. I cannot actually lead a more creative comment as i’m abit out of my deph but i will be checking back here for further updates.

© 2012 Mediaite, LLC | About Us | Advertise | Self-Serve Advertising | Newsletter | Jobs | Privacy | User Agreement | Disclaimer | Power Grid FAQ | Contact | Archives | RSS RSS
Dan Abrams, Founder | Power Grid by Sound Strategies | Hosting by Datagram