SEND HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111

ABC should be fined for hiring this guy and he should be arrested and deported tomorrow.

gordonbloyershow said:
ABC should be fined for hiring this guy and he should be arrested and deported tomorrow.

I know. It’s these damn reporters reporting stories, we should fine them to make it stop. And if we can only keep these 12 year olds from coming here and stealing our resources!!!!!!!!!!!

why didn’t he apply for legal status(work visa, student visa, etc) when he found out he was illegal? I understand he had no choice as a child, but as an adult he does.

He is one of ‘Many Many People’…Yes he is, and we need to find every one of them.

We also need to fine companies, and imprison CEO’s and managers that hire them, and we need to Finally get control of our border.

Publius219 said:
I know. It’s these damn reporters reporting stories, we should fine them to make it stop. And if we can only keep these 12 year olds from coming here and stealing our resources!!!!!!!!!!!

You say that like it’s a joke. Have you ever wondered why our schools are failing? Why there isn’t enough money for new textbooks, desks, and chairs? Why they have to keep cutting extra curricular activities?

So yeah… 12 year-olds are taking our “resources.”

Someone breaks a law, is proud to break US laws, seems proud that US laws are broken, becomes a darling of liberals, discovers breaking law is useful giving him exposure by liberal media. He gets free publicity and will make a lots of money. ‘Outlaw’ would be just a preamble, it may lead to a best seller book. Vargas story may become a made for TV movie. Obama may welcome him to whitehouse, naming a new initiative, all to attract Hispanic votes. Who says breaking a law does not pay off?

oh okay. so now we’re going to hear about how illegals should not be picked on because they win pulitzer prizes. come on. let’s start the spin, folks.

Ramrants said:
why didn’t he apply for legal status(work visa, student visa, etc) when he found out he was illegal? I understand he had no choice as a child, but as an adult he does.

but why should he? the illegals get much more if they stay illegal. why pay for education, medicine, etc. if you don’t have to?

Waaaaahhh….How about going through the legal immigration process instead of whining about your current situation?

Is he paying taxes? Does he have a social security number? He obviously has committed fraud on his I-9 form.
I wouldn’t be bragging about any of this.

I’ve been a citizen now for 9 years after a long time of being a naturalized citizen. I followed the rules and became a citizen.

I have no sympathy or respect for him.

Arrgh, where’s that edit button?

lazzzlo said:
I’ve been a citizen now for 9 years after a long time of being a naturalized citizen. I followed the rules and became a citizen.

Should read I’ve been a citizen now for 9 years after a long time of being a permanent resident.

“In addition, Vargas hopes to put a recognizable, trusted face to a large and complex issue:”

Nothing complex about pal, you’re here illegally so go away and come back the right way. What part of “illegal alien” is hard to understand?

lazzzlo said:
Arrgh, where’s that edit button? Should read I’ve been a citizen now for 9 years after a long time of being a permanent resident.

you have my respect, i was born here, you have to take a tough test and other things to become a american citizen, welcome aboard

So here you have ABC and the NYT taking activist, pro-illegal immigration stances. Yet Jon “I’m not an activist” Stewart can’t see the leftist bias of ABC and the NYT.

OxyCon said:
So here you have ABC and the NYT taking activist, pro-illegal immigration stances. Yet Jon “I’m not an activist” Stewart can’t see the leftist bias of ABC and the NYT.

Oh he can see it, he just (like all liberals) won’t admit it.

Nice. Another jerk who has no respect for our laws trying to paint himself as the victim. I’ll go ahead and take a wild guess that hes a left wing journalist too.

Loser.

Pubic219 said:
SEND HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111

Agreed. First, abc gets the $hit fined out of them. Isn’t that the prog meme? Fine the employers?

Publius219 said:
SEND HIM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111

PUBLIUS,,

Well done. If only we could get you to be consistent in your Philosophy, you would understand the concepts of “neutral principle” and “equal Protection,” Respectfully.

The Socialist mindset, tends to immediately feel bad and wants to help, which is compassionate and noble. Conversely, the Conservative asks: what is the law and can we afford it. (as well as all the other sad stories)

Governance and survival, often requires pragmatism, no matter how cute the puppy is!

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Arrest, Beat, Deport.

Are his parents still here and illegal? They need to be picked up, with him and any others siblings and be sent home. Additional sanctions and fines should be impossed as well. If his reporting is so good to get a Pulitzer, he should have no problem finding a job at home.

JUAREZ,

The other night you and I talked and FOKKER was in the conversation. Soon GLACKIN and BFD showed up. The site was John McCain and the Arizona Fires, from a day or two ago. (Is still there.)

If your interested, take a look at the last two or three pages, as the entire conversation degenerated. Surprise!

GLACKIN, managed to Hack into my Posts and create false responses labeled as QUOTES, or Purveyor says: He even wrote, inserted and attributed quotes to me!

Glackin, apparently was upset that I took your word about something which made me guilty by association.

It was a mess!

I complained to Mediaite about Glackin’s “Hack”. I don’t know how he did it, but that is the only word I can use. Furthermore, if he did it to me he can do it to anyone.

Anyway, Thanks for the support

PURVEYOR

Purveyor, lackin does that crap all of the time. He’s a really sick dude.

Jaurez said:
Agreed. First, abc gets the $hit fined out of them. Isn’t that the prog meme? Fine the employers?

Yes. FINE the employers.

However, you imb0cile, where do you get the STUPID idea that he is employed by ABC.

Let me tell you where…

Ramrants said:
why didn’t he apply for legal status(work visa, student visa, etc) when he found out he was illegal? I understand he had no choice as a child, but as an adult he does.

I work with international students who come to the US legally and I am familiar with the law. Illegal people cannot become legal unless they marry a US citizen. Once the child was in the US, the only thing he or she could do to fix themselves, would be to leave the US once an adult and hope that immigration will allow them back in or marry a US citizen so that their spouse could get them a green card. Once a person is in the US illegally for more than one year they are subject to a 10 year bar, which is why most illegal people don’t leave to try to re-enter as a legal immigrant; they would be barred from coming in.

Chuck Steele said:
Are his parents still here and illegal? They need to be picked up, with him and any others siblings and be sent home. Additional sanctions and fines should be impossed as well. If his reporting is so good to get a Pulitzer, he should have no problem finding a job at home.

You didn’t read the story. It is so much easier to spew your bigotry, eh?

I started pushing the appropriate “thumbs” button and concluded why? Most everyone here, on this page, (1) is exercising simple common sense.

Wait until later folks, I am sure we will called racists and evil… Ouch!

“The full interview airs his Thursday on World News with Diane Sawyer and Nightline, and Friday on Good Morning America. For now, you can watch this preview courtesy of ABC News”
“Vargas has also launched Define American, a media campaign”
“Furthermore, Vargas is highlighting his own experience in a New York Times Magazine essay entitled “Outlaw.”

Those poor, illegal immigrants. America is so tough on them and they have no one to tell their story.

Skippy said:
You didn’t read the story. It is so much easier to spew your bigotry, eh?

Do you think it’s “bigoted” to want citizens to be here legally?

Patsy said:
You didn’t read the story. It is so much easier to spew your bigotry, eh?

illegal alien
 
–noun
1.
a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.
2.
a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson.

Patsy, did abc pay him for the interview? They employed him.

ImNotBlue said:
Do you think it’s “bigoted” to want citizens to be here legally?

Shut up. I am talking about the other idiot just spewing his ignorance. Go read the whole story, then come back and defend the other moron.

Jaurez said:
Patsy, did abc pay him for the interview? They employed him.

Do you know ABC paid him for the interview?

Until you show proof ABC paid for the interview STFU.

Jaurez said:
illegal alien

–noun
1.
a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.
2.
a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson.

WOW!

You really showed me there, Jeffy.

Mr. Vargas OUTED himself as an illegal immigrant.

Keep up the good work, Sherlock.

Law enforcement’s job is clear.  Vargas and everyone that aided and abetted his multiple crimes need to be brought to justice.

His situation is sad, but that doesn’t exuse his actions after learning about what his parents and grand parents had done to him.

Dem4Ever said:
Law enforcement’s job is clear.  Vargas and everyone that aided and abetted his multiple crimes need to be brought to justice.

His situation is sad, but that doesn’t exuse his actions after learning about what his parents and grand parents had done to him.

CRIMES, you moron?

Show the list of those CRIMES.

Go!

Patsy said:
Keep up the good work, Sherlock.

We’ll do, Robert. ;)

The Laws and/or legal interpretation that has allowed for the children of illegals, immediate citizenship is a Constitutional abomination!

Old English Common Law, which much of American Civil and criminal law is based, promulgates the concept that Nothing should be gained by an illegal act. Nothing!

Once we start with this premise, the debate is over.

Most illegals are not coming her because they admire us and appreciate the wisdom of the American way of life and culture. They are coming here to take advantage of us.

In many ways I don’t blame them for wanting to improve their lives. ‘However’ don’t you dare blame me for protecting my homeland.

STOP with the ‘revisionist’ history. The South West and Mexico had been in a state of flux since before the arrival of the Conquistadores. “El Norte” is an economic and social success because of America and American’s, not because of centuries of bitterness by Mexico.)

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Jaurez said:
We’ll do, Robert. ;)

Still with that hallucination?

Damn fine job I did to your poor little brains, if you don’t mind I say so myself.

Patsy said:
CRIMES, you moron?

Show the list of those CRIMES.

Go!

illegal alien
 
–noun
1.
a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.
2.
a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson.

I want to know if Vargas got a visit from the INS today.

I want to know what SSN Mr. Vargas has been using all these years.

I want to know if they picked him up today…and if not, why not.

Jaurez said:
illegal alien

–noun
1.
a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country’s authorization.
2.
a foreigner who enters the U.S. without an entry or immigrant visa, especially a person who crosses the border by avoiding inspection or who overstays the period of time allowed as a visitor, tourist, or businessperson.

CRIMES, you morons.

Go ahead. Show the list of CRIMES.

Skippy said:
Shut up. I am talking about the other idiot just spewing his ignorance. Go read the whole story, then come back and defend the other moron.

I was just asking you a question. Do you always get so angry when people ask you questions?

Jaurez said:
illegal alien

I think the confusion arises from the fact that leftists subscribe to the Debbie Wasserman-Schultz school of legal theory, which holds that illegal immigrants really aren’t illegal.

Another advocate journalist, just what we need. So basically, he was lying the whole time he didn’t reveal his status.

Jaurez said:
Patsy, did abc pay him for the interview? They employed him.

Did you find the payment for the interview yet, Jeffy?

Or were you just showing your ignorance as usual?

Skippy said:
CRIMES, you moron?

Show the list of those CRIMES.

Go!

Do you understand the meaning of the term “illegal”?
You display a lot of anger and like throwing insults at other posters. You really are mean-spirited. But keep it up; you’re the perfect poster boy for liberalism.

ImNotBlue said:
I was just asking you a question. Do you always get so angry when people ask you questions?

No.

It just FUN to rub the idiot’s noses in their own filth.

Just look at what those on your side are doing. Spewing ignorance and bigotry as a knee jerk reaction.

As for the legality of the issue, of course illegal immigrants ought to be in the USA legally. But, this is not the case and it is not going to be fixed by any “arrest. beat. deport” or “CRIMES!” hysteria.

slickerwick said:
Another advocate journalist, just what we need. So basically, he was lying the whole time he didn’t reveal his status.

And I suspect he is lying now about his motivations. He wants to get paid, and he will…the Left loves this stuff and buys it by the truck load.

Azarkhan said:
I think the confusion arises from the fact that leftists subscribe to the Debbie Wasserman-Schultz school of legal theory, which holds that illegal immigrants really aren’t illegal.

Yes, they’re simply deemed as “undocumented.” ROFLMBAO!!!!

slickerwick said:
Do you understand the meaning of the term “illegal”?
You display a lot of anger and like throwing insults at other posters. You really are mean-spirited. But keep it up; you’re the perfect poster boy for liberalism.

Do you understand the meaning of the word CRIME?

Obviously you don’t, you moron.

Go ahead and show the list of CRIMES.

Jaurez said:
Yes, they’re simply deemed as “undocumented.” ROFLMBAO!!!!

Did you find the payment for interview yet, Jeffy?

Until then, STFU.

If this illegal immigrant had a shred of decency he would turn himself in, immediately. He doesn’t so he won’t.

Skippy said:
No.

It just FUN to rub the idiot’s noses in their own filth.

Just look at what those on your side are doing. Spewing ignorance and bigotry as a knee jerk reaction.

As for the legality of the issue, of course illegal immigrants ought to be in the USA legally. But, this is not the case and it is not going to be fixed by any “arrest. beat. deport” or “CRIMES!” hysteria.

Stop drinking the kool-ade. Just how is it Bigotry to expect everyone to follow the law. We are a Nation of laws, but for you its OK if the law is ignored by people who’s politics you like…and who’s the bigot?

Robert/aap/countless others said:
Do you understand the meaning of the word CRIME?

Obviously you don’t, you moron.

Go ahead and show the list of CRIMES.

Crossing the border illegally is a crime. Gawd, you’re stupid!

SKIPPY’

You are engaged in a debate that is Un-winnable. Logic and reason carry the day.

However, in your favor is the peculiar American, Representative Republic, replete with a Supreme Court.

Ergo, one never knows what Washington will come up with. It is like you and I playing a game of Chess and I win. But, the Supreme Court says: “we feel bad for SKIPPY,” so we’ll give him/her the prize. Goes on all the time.

Someone once said: “hell is the absence of reason.” Apparently you and your likeminded compatriots will be quite comfortable.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Jaurez said:
If this illegal immigrant had a shred of decency he would turn himself in, immediately. He doesn’t so he won’t.

Jeffy, you are BEYOND stupid.

If he has any brains, he would have a lawyer, AN IMMIGRATION lawyer already.

This illegal immigrant was more than likely using a fake ss# or he was being paid under the table both of which are crimes.

purveyor said:
SKIPPY’

You are engaged in a debate that is Un-winnable.

He knows that, that’s why he immediately played the “bigot” card because he knows he has no argument, whatsoevah!

purveyor said:
SKIPPY’

You are engaged in a debate that is Un-winnable. Logic and reason carry the day.

However, in your favor is the peculiar American, Representative Republic, replete with a Supreme Court.

Ergo, one never knows what Washington will come up with. It is like you and I playing a game of Chess and I win. But, the Supreme Court says: “we feel bad for SKIPPY,” so we’ll give him/her the prize. Goes on all the time.

Someone once said: “hell is the absence of reason.” Apparently you and your likeminded compatriots will be quite comfortable.

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Your turn.

Show me the list of CRIMES, Mr. Vargas has committed. Or show US that ABC paid him for the interview.

Until then, STFU.

Jaurez said:
This illegal immigrant was more than likely using a fake ss# or he was being paid under the table both of which are crimes.

And when you pay your AMERICAN teenager baby sitter in cash without asking for a SS YOU ARE COMMITTING A CRIME.

Right, Jeffy?

See how easy it is to show how you have nothing but reams of ignorance growing outta your rear!

Well, I don’t have a babysitter. Dumb much?

Skippy said:
Did you find the payment for the interview yet, Jeffy? Or were you just showing your ignorance as usual?

he works for the huffington post

Jaurez said:
Well, I don’t have a babysitter. Dumb much?

No, imb0cile. The point again is YOU are claiming that working for CASH or WITHOUT a SS is a CRIME.

Which they are NOT. But once again, you made an arse outta yourself.

How is that ABC payment coming along, Jeffy. Found it yet?

Maybe if you dig deeper into your rear?

e83talus said:
I work with international students who come to the US legally and I am familiar with the law. Illegal people cannot become legal unless they marry a US citizen. Once the child was in the US, the only thing he or she could do to fix themselves, would be to leave the US once an adult and hope that immigration will allow them back in or marry a US citizen so that their spouse could get them a green card. Once a person is in the US illegally for more than one year they are subject to a 10 year bar, which is why most illegal people don’t leave to try to re-enter as a legal immigrant; they would be barred from coming in.

We need to stop the onslaught flow of illegals in this country, but I am for letting someone like this gentleman stay. I agree with what Newt Gingrich said the other night in the GOP debate. Immigration should not be all or nothing. We should not deport them all or give them all amnesty. Allowing those who have been here 10+ years to pay a fine and apply for legal status and deporting those here less than 10 years would be a fair compromise. Each side of this debate will have to give up something in order to get something they want.

The longer we allow immigration to go unchecked and the more the states keep losing money, the more people are going to look to scapegoats for our problems. I don’t think it is a fear of immigrants, nor is it born our of racism. Illegals have been with us since the country passed immigration laws, but as more and more people see their taxes going up and they receive less government services (and services going to people who aren’t supposed to be here) the resentment towards illegals will just get worse. The government is exasperating this problem by doing nothing – which I think is the intent of some.

I would be all for open borders, but you have to eliminate the welfare state. You can’t have both. What you see happening now is the reason you can’t have both.

Patsy said:
The point again is YOU are claiming that working for CASH or WITHOUT a SS is a CRIME.

Which they are NOT.

You went to which law school?

cjd ohio 1 said:
he works for the huffington post

Jeff Merrill (Jaurez) claimed ABC should be fined for the interview since Mr. Vargas received payment and therefore he works for ABC.

Which is total BS and I want to see if he retracts it (he won’t) or he will just continue diverting.

Jaurez said:
You went to which law school?

Found the ABC payment yet, imb0cile?

Skippy said:
Show me the list of CRIMES, Mr. Vargas has committed.

I guess that was my point SKIPPY. Being tight or wrong doesn’t matter in this country anymore. The Bill of Rights was penned in 1787, then in 1798 the Government came up the “Alien and Sedition acts” which negated the First Amendment!

The Supreme Court has determined that it’s OK to discriminate against white people as long as it improves the lives of some black people. Use discrimination to eradicate discrimination…WHAT, HUH?

Or, how about the firefighters who scored high on a test, only they didn’t get the job?

What does “Equal protection” mean? It is fairly easy to me.

So, thats my point SKIPPY, you may be as wrong as you can be and still win in this Country. Quit whining!

Skippy said:
Jeff Merrill (Jaurez) claimed ABC should be fined for the interview since Mr. Vargas received payment and therefore he works for ABC. Which is total BS and I want to see if he retracts it (he won’t) or he will just continue diverting.

just saying where he does work, nothing more

NO WAY SKIPPY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL!

Skippy said:
CRIMES, you moron?

Show the list of those CRIMES.

Go!

He has admitted to:

1. Conspiracy to commit a felony by inlisting the help of his high school teacher to create forged federal documents.

2. Forging a fake Social Security card.

3. Using said Social Security to commit fraud in Oregon by obtaining a false driver’s license.

4. Using fraudulently obtained driver’s license as proof of US citizenship on Washington Post’s employment I-9 form.

These are just what Vargas has admitted to.  Guess you’re the moron and a fool…lol

purveyor said:
NO WAY SKIPPY WENT TO LAW SCHOOL!

I went to Glenn Beck U.

He taught me that undocumented stay in the USA is not a CRIME!

Please please please, can I be the one that cuts the rope on the catapult that launches this crooks’ a$$ back over the border..?

Skippy said:
No, imb0cile. The point again is YOU are claiming that working for CASH or WITHOUT a SS is a CRIME.

It is illegal NOT to pay income tax, “you imbecile.”

Skippy said:
No.

It just FUN to rub the idiot’s noses in their own filth.

So you get pleasure out of being angry and insulting others?

Just look at what those on your side are doing. Spewing ignorance and bigotry as a knee jerk reaction.

What bigotry? (Man, I thought I had asked that already)

As for the legality of the issue, of course illegal immigrants ought to be in the USA legally. But, this is not the case and it is not going to be fixed by any “arrest. beat. deport” or “CRIMES!” hysteria.

So… you don’t think that being here illegally is a crime? Or do you just think that it’s “not that much of a crime?”

Would breaking into your home be a crime?

Just another ILLEGAL immigrant criminal hired by the lamestream socialist fake-news media “Corrupt B-tards” to do a job no self-respecting American citizen would do – namely, write the endless lies, distortions, misrepresentations, bs, half-truths, baseless slime attacks and leftist propaganda that constitute the entire content of their sham of a joke of a travesty of a parody of a farce of a newspaper, known as The Weasel Post and the “All The News That’s Fit to Fake: NYT (which has switched from being the Grey Lady to the lunatic-left Grey Who’re of unethical journalism.)

TeaPartyNation said:
Just another ILLEGAL immigrant criminal hired by the lamestream socialist fake-news media “Corrupt B-tards” to do a job no self-respecting American citizen would do – namely, write the endless lies, distortions, misrepresentations, bs, half-truths, baseless slime attacks and propaganda

Wait a second–he works for FOX?????

Dem4Ever said:
He has admitted to:

1. Conspiracy to commit a felony by inlisting the help of his high school teacher to create forged federal documents.

2. Forging a fake Social Security card.

3. Using said Social Security to commit fraud in Oregon by obtaining a false driver’s license.

4. Using fraudulently obtained driver’s license as proof of US citizenship on Washington Post’s employment I-9 form.

These are just what Vargas has admitted to.  Guess you’re the moron and a fool…lol

1) Where did you see that? In the suggestion that “we’d get the proper documents”?
That’s a stretch, since the teacher didn’t know the situation.

2) Not a CRIME

3)

(1) A person commits the offense of false swearing to receive a driver license if the person makes any false affidavit or knowingly swears or affirms falsely to any matter required to be sworn to or affirmed in the process of applying for, receiving and holding a license or driver permit under the vehicle code.

(2) The offense described in this section, false swearing to receive a driver license, is a Class A misdemeanor. [1983 c.338 §332]

Not a CRIME

4. A drivers license DOES NOT PROVE USA citizenship.
Mr. Vargas chose to mark “US Citizen” in the I-9 verification form.

Criminal Penalties
Engaging in a pattern or practice of knowingly hiring or continuing to employ unauthorized aliens
Persons or entities who are convicted of having engaged in a pattern or practice of knowingly hiring unauthorized aliens (or continuing to employ aliens knowing that they are or have become unauthorized to work in the United States) after November 6, 1986, may face fines of up to $3,000 per employee and/or 6 months imprisonment.

Engaging in fraud or false statements, or otherwise misusing visas, immigration permits and identity documents

Persons who use fraudulent identification or employment authorization documents or documents that were lawfully issued to another person, or who make a false statement or attestation to satisfy the employment eligibility verification requirements, may be fined, or imprisoned for up to 5 years, or both. Other federal criminal statutes may provide higher penalties in certain fraud cases.

That one is defined as a CRIME, but he already admitted to being and undocumented immigrant.

So what do you want? Do you want him deported immediately or do you want to serve time and then deport him?

purveyor said:
It is illegal NOT to pay income tax, “you imbecile.”

Is it a CRIME?

ImNotBlue said:
You say that like it’s a joke. Have you ever wondered why our schools are failing? Why there isn’t enough money for new textbooks, desks, and chairs? Why they have to keep cutting extra curricular activities?

I know why. It’s because we spend more on defense than the rest of the world combined and are still arming ourselves for the Cold War that’s been over for 20 years.

ImNotBlue said:
So you get pleasure out of being angry and insulting others?

What bigotry? (Man, I thought I had asked that already)

So… you don’t think that being here illegally is a crime? Or do you just think that it’s “not that much of a crime?”

Would breaking into your home be a crime?

Idiot!

The Baboon HIMSELF has admitted on the air, tried to explain to the foaming at the trap listeners,
ILLEGAL STAY in the USA is NOT a CRIME – It is a MISDEMEANOR.

purveyor said:
PUBLIUS,,

Well done. If only we could get you to be consistent in your Philosophy, you would understand the concepts of “neutral principle” and “equal Protection,” Respectfully.

The Socialist mindset, tends to immediately feel bad and wants to help, which is compassionate and noble. Conversely, the Conservative asks: what is the law and can we afford it. (as well as all the other sad stories)

Governance and survival, often requires pragmatism, no matter how cute the puppy is!

I can’t help but laugh at this, for a number of reasons. Your caricatures are, of course, flawed. You create a false dichotomy. And you assume conservatism in 2011 is beholden to any actual principles as opposed to just being what Rush Limbaugh and Fox News say it is.

What’s practical about sending someone back to their homeland after we’ve paid to educate them for their entire lives?

The last time the bill he’s promoting came up for a vote, the teaparty “patriots” barely said a word against it, and rightwing bloggers were even worse: the only r/w blogger (aside from perhaps Malkin) who mentioned it was GregGutfeld, and that was *after* the bill had failed.

And, when Reid hyped it in the last election, it took Angle *three weeks* to point out that it would take college away from some Americans, and she didn’t exactly harp on that.

The bill he’s promoting is an incredible vulnerability for Dems leaders and could turn many non-far-left Dems against them, but True Conservatives have higher priorities than preventing illegal aliens from depriving some citizens of college.

P.S. For the facts about the bill and an illustration of how it would harm Americans, see:

http://24ahead.com/s/dream-act

Skippy said:
Idiot! The Baboon HIMSELF has admitted on the air, tried to explain to the foaming at the trap listeners,ILLEGAL STAY in the USA is NOT a CRIME – It is a MISDEMEANOR.

a misdemeanor is a crime, just lesser than a felony lol

Skippy said:
Idiot!

The Baboon HIMSELF has admitted on the air, tried to explain to the foaming at the trap listeners,
ILLEGAL STAY in the USA is NOT a CRIME – It is a MISDEMEANOR.

A Misdemeanor is a crime too, and people are jailed every day for misdemeanor convictions…not all crimes are class A felonies.

Being in this country without consent is a crime.
Using a SSN not your own is a crime.
Filing a false document with any city, state or federal agency is a crime.
and so on, and so one…

The average Illegal Alien breaks the law every day…just because you do not understand or accept that does not mean it does not happen. Reality does not care how you feel.

Where’s ICE when you need them?

Publius219 said:
I know why. It’s because we spend more on defense than the rest of the world combined and are still arming ourselves for the Cold War that’s been over for 20 years.

Oh… so if we just threw some more money at the school (nevermind how many students are actually there, and how many belong there), we could solve everything!

Why is this the far-left answer for everything… “more money?” You guys hate rich people with such a passion… but just want more and more money. Don’t “fix” the problem, just pay more for it!

No.

Skippy said:
Idiot!

The Baboon HIMSELF has admitted on the air, tried to explain to the foaming at the trap listeners,
ILLEGAL STAY in the USA is NOT a CRIME – It is a MISDEMEANOR.

Who?

And you do realize that a “misdemeanor” is still a crime, right?

In the United States, the federal government generally considers a crime punishable with incarceration for one year or less to be a misdemeanor.[1] All other crimes are considered felonies. Many states also employ this distinction.

ImNotBlue said:
Oh… so if we just threw some more money at the school (nevermind how many students are actually there, and how many belong there), we could solve everything! Why is this the far-left answer for everything… “more money?” You guys hate rich people with such a passion… but just want more and more money. Don’t “fix” the problem, just pay more for it! No. Who? And you do realize that a “misdemeanor” is still a crime, right?

skippy also believes anything filed at a courthouse is a court transcript, so dont try to reason with him

Publius219
I can’t help but laugh at this, for a number of reasons. Your caricatures are, of course, flawed. You create a false dichotomy. And you assume conservatism in 2011 is beholden to any actual principles as opposed to just being what Rush Limbaugh and Fox News say it is.

What’s practical about sending someone back to their homeland after we’ve paid to educate them for their entire lives?

I regret that I have but one upward pointing thumb to give you for this comment, well said.

Publius219 said:
What’s practical about sending someone back to their homeland after we’ve paid to educate them for their entire lives?

Poor PUBLIUS,

There is so much knowledge available to you, yet you tend to formulate a retort, rather, than consider the information before you. Or is it that you’d rather not hear or read what is being postulated?

I think your assertion about sending an illegal back because they have acquired an education, is like returning an escaped convict when apprehended. After all, they might have a job and a family, so we should just forget about the crime and “don’t worry, be happy.”

Except, of course, the family whose daughter was killed by the illegal Alien. (happens all to often) Why increase the probability as we have have enough already…

Tell me, what is so bloody important about illegals that Liberals just can’t seem to live without them?

PURVEYOR OF RHETORIC

Moreover PUBLIUS,

I paid you a compliment and then expounded on the issue. You insufferable ingrate!

(note: “ingrate is someone who is ungrateful)….

Tedderman said:
as opposed to just being what Rush Limbaugh and Fox News say it is.

You know, I seldom quote contemporary news entities. Mostly everything I put down on Mediaite is based on years of writing and study.

Perhaps that is why you and Publius have such a difficult time with me. You’d be lucky to get a C in my class as you are the ones crticize without supporting any position you comment on.

Many children, such as this reporter once was, are not in fact aware that their parents entered as illegal. That in itself has huge social implications and one that manifests in the “us against them” ethnic communitities in which they choose to live in -instead of comfortably moving into the greater fabric of society. Everything is stealth and under the radar. Children raised in this environment eventually breakout and want to experience more “American” culture and experience- including education, job opportunities, military service etc..
It puts the children of illegals in a tough position with no viable legal recourse other than having to leave the country (this unrealistic as most have never been to the country of their parents and have no connection)-
For the record I do not believe the current DREAM act is the solution – way to many loop holes for illegals to take advantage of, from every country, not just Mexico, which unfortunately is the country that takes over all rational debate of the issue and makes it about human rights.

To say “deport” does not offer a realistic solution- that task would be virtually impossible. To offer solutions that offer these children, students will require further debate. The balance will come from harsh, deeply imposed consequences for being illegal in this country. There can be a solution that offers grace and accountability.

This problem has grown out of control over the past 20 years. After 9-11 the rhetoric changed for better because we had an undeniable wake up call- a few hijackers did come through our Mexican borders- and have continued to do so.
Immigration and security are absolutely linked and you can’t have a solution that forsakes one at the expense of the other.

Skippy said:
Idiot!

The Baboon HIMSELF has admitted on the air, tried to explain to the foaming at the trap listeners,
ILLEGAL STAY in the USA is NOT a CRIME – It is a MISDEMEANOR.

A misdemeanor is a CRIME you fool. Let me repeat it again: MISDEMEANORS ARE CRIMES, ASSCLOWN

Publius219 said:
What’s practical about sending someone back to their homeland after we’ve paid to educate them for their entire lives?

What’s practical about paying to educate someone for their entire life and then collecting no taxes from them once they begin to earn from that free education?

mlb said:
es it about human rights.

To say “deport” does not offer a realistic solution- that task would be virtually impossible.

Sir, Respectfully, you are attempting to tip toe between compassion and reason. I have read enough of your Posts to know that you are both intelligent and wise.

However, considering how America got in this mess, ask yourself, do you trust those whom you are trying to help?

What are the real sentiments hidden behind those brown eyes, meaning, are you being used?

I suggest we can’t talk about Illegal border crossings without talking about overcrowded schools, overcrowded prisons, illegal drugs. We just can’t compartmentalize the problems as they are all the same problem.

I suggest that liberal social flexibility created much of this, while Conservatives were shamed into looking the other way.

I wonder how many times he has voted illegally? I wonder how many ballots he cast for the one in 08? This is an outrage….his company knowingly gave him false identification and to cover the white house with his illegal papers, at the behest of a so-called “news” organ?

Nothing but an activist; fire the liar.

BROWNSOUND,

Seriously, I think SKIPPY was drunk. Really.

It looks like Mr. Vargas may be facing a problem, but kudos to him for coming out on his own and attempting to use his situation to lobby on behalf of something he believes.

It seems to me that the “problem” is that he has knowingly participated in the fraud and while his chosen profession wouldn’t require US citizenship or even a US residency, a judge may have no choice, but to restrict his ability to visit this country.

Hopefully, he’ll be able to drag things out and use his platform to draw attention to the things he’d like changed — and again, kudos for for coming out on his own because living with the deception had to be hard — but if I were him, I’d probably start pricing flats in London, sending feelers to the Guardian and starting a book on the subject because it’d probably sell very well.

‘I know. It’s these damn reporters reporting stories, we should fine them to make it stop. And if we can only keep these 12 year olds from coming here and stealing our resources!!!!!!!!!!’

You’re painfully ignorant. Let me attempt to educate you-in state’s like mine, Az, tens of millions are spent every year providing free health care to illegals, many of which come across the border specifically to receive-namely pregnant women. Years ago, our hospital, YRMC had to build a huge new large maternity wing? Not because there was some huge population surge in Yuma, but because the old maternity ward couldn’t accommodate the huge number of Mexican women that came across the border in their 9th mo.

Now, our public schools. When I was in H. School-in the late 80′s, my HS was over 50% Mexican national. Let me repeat-over 50% of my High School’s kids were Mexican citizens. Back then, they didn’t mainstream so the Mexican kids, who spoke no English, were educated entirely in Spanish. My HS, Kofa High, was literally two schools-one taught in English for Americans and the other in Spanish for Mexicans. Every day buses drove the 20min. to the border to pick up the Mexican kids and then drove them home at night. By my senior year, half my classes were in temporary trailers because the school couldn’t keep up with the flood. In US schools, like in US hospitals, cannot, by law, ask citizen status. All it takes for non-citizens is PO box address, which is cheaply bought. Meanwhile, AZ test scores are dismal. Why? Because precious resources are being wasted educating another country’s children.

purveyor said:
BROWNSOUND,

Seriously, I think SKIPPY was drunk. Really.

Big time…

I heard that being in this country illegally is a misdemeanor offense…a deportable misdemeanor offense.

Ramrants said:
We need to stop the onslaught flow of illegals in this country, but I am for letting someone like this gentleman stay. I agree with what Newt Gingrich said the other night in the GOP debate. Immigration should not be all or nothing. We should not deport them all or give them all amnesty. Allowing those who have been here 10+ years to pay a fine and apply for legal status and deporting those here less than 10 years would be a fair compromise. Each side of this debate will have to give up something in order to get something they want.

The longer we allow immigration to go unchecked and the more the states keep losing money, the more people are going to look to scapegoats for our problems. I don’t think it is a fear of immigrants, nor is it born our of racism. Illegals have been with us since the country passed immigration laws, but as more and more people see their taxes going up and they receive less government services (and services going to people who aren’t supposed to be here) the resentment towards illegals will just get worse. The government is exasperating this problem by doing nothing – which I think is the intent of some.

I would be all for open borders, but you have to eliminate the welfare state. You can’t have both. What you see happening now is the reason you can’t have both.

I think I agree with you. The problem is its not so black and white so that we can say, “get rid of all 20+million illegal immigrants” because we do not have the manpower to do this. Nor is it feasible to say “all 20+ million of you get to stay just by virtue of it being so many of you”. neither of these extremes are fair but somewhere in the middle lies the solution. That being said, shoring up the border’s, enforcing laws with regards to businesses who hire illegals and having a reasonable immigration policy has to be included. This issue really does call for “comprehensive” immigration reform.

Oh don’t worry, he is only taking the job that Americans won’t do.

The media has, for some time now, been hostile to the Federal government’s immigration policies.  Their inexplicable behaviour combined with today’s stunning revolation, one must wonder if there are more Vargas’ out there in the powerful media pretending to be US citizens and using their trusted positions as journalists to generate opposition to our immigration laws.

From coast to coast this shocking story has raised a tsunami of questions about who, if any, is manipulating the news we consume.  What had always been a given can no longer be taken for granted.  Certainly, the signs had been there.  We just never thought it could happen to us, not here in America, but that has all changed in one ginormous seismic shift.

Throw him out, set a good example! Ever notice most illegals are from some Spanish type country, where corruption and lawlessness are the norm?

To, MlB,

I re-read what I wrote to you on the previous page and it didn’t come out right, perhaps even pompous?

If I offended you I apologize. You wrote a thoughtful letter about a sad subject–the plight of human beings.

My apologies.

PURVEYOR

jakester said:
Throw him out, set a good example! Ever notice most illegals are from some Spanish type country, where corruption and lawlessness are the norm?

lol, bigot

Dem4Ever said:

I heard that being in this country illegally is a misdemeanor offense…a deportable misdemeanor offense.

Subsequent offenses are felonies.

Back in “the good ole days,” Immigration Control reasoned that anything more than a misdemeanor was overkill. However, the explosision of ancillary crime and the quantity of illegal border crossings…

kit9 said:
You’re painfully ignorant. Let me attempt to educate you-in state’s like mine, Az, tens of millions are spent every year providing free health care to illegals, many of which come across the border specifically to receive-namely pregnant women. Years ago, our hospital, YRMC had to build a huge new large maternity wing? Not because there was some huge population surge in Yuma, but because the old maternity ward couldn’t accommodate the huge number of Mexican women that came across the border in their 9th mo.

Your problem is OUR problem. I am trying to help…

In SanDiego, Buses cross the Border each morning and night to bus kids who were born in the US (surreptitiously) and educate them, etc. Are they thankful or are they simply taking advantage of us? Are we compassionate or Fooles?

I know it is completely lacking in common sense

Good post, KIT9 thanks

purveyor said:
Subsequent offenses are felonies.

Back in “the good ole days,” Immigration Control reasoned that anything more than a misdemeanor was overkill. However, the explosision of ancillary crime and the quantity of illegal border crossings…

Point well taken…misdemeanor is to deterrence as Howdy Doody is to Die Hard.

The bottom line is illegal immigrants cost every state in the union, some much more than others, billions and billions of dollars every year. That is a fact that is indisputable.

Jaurez said:

The bottom line is illegal immigrants cost every state in the union, some much more than others, billions and billions of dollars every year. That is a fact that is indisputable.

JUAREZ,

Nooo, thats a lie! Every State (The Union) is much better off as they pay taxes, etc., and more than compensate for all the American Citizen’s support in goods and services, education… Really! Its true. You are a racist!

Oh well! LOL

e83talus said:
I think I agree with you. The problem is its not so black and white so that we can say, “get rid of all 20+million illegal immigrants” because we do not have the manpower to do this

Yes we do!

The illegals will eventually, mostly, all have some contact with authorities, hence, by way of passive policing we will catch many of them. Pro-active policing will do the rest. Then, just maybe, we can begin to teach our kids classic American values and the illegals will go home on their own.

Dem4Ever said:
I heard that being in this country illegally is a misdemeanor offense…a deportable misdemeanor offense.

I knew you’d see things my way eventually.

The penalty for illegal stay in the USA is deportation. There is no fine or jail time unless other CRIMES have been committed.

But the lynch mob around here keep wetting their panties yelling CRIME! CRIME! CRIME! as if Mr. Vargas had robbed or murdered someone.

Jaurez said:
The bottom line is illegal immigrants cost every state in the union, some much more than others, billions and billions of dollars every year. That is a fact that is indisputable.

Did you find the ABC payment yet, Jeffy?

That is another one of your “indisputable” facts.

SKIPPY

Blacks Law Dictionary: “Crime” and “misdemeanor”, properly speaking are synonymous terms”

Blacks Law Dictionary, 1990 edition

Now go away

SKIPPY,

I have lots of books

Skippy said:
Idiot! The Baboon HIMSELF has admitted on the air, tried to explain to the foaming at the trap listeners,ILLEGAL STAY in the USA is NOT a CRIME – It is a MISDEMEANOR.

quote of the day………..

purveyor said:
SKIPPY

Blacks Law Dictionary: “Crime” and “misdemeanor”, properly speaking are synonymous terms”

Blacks Law Dictionary, 1990 edition

Now go away

Soooo, a speeding ticket is also a CRIME?

OK, if you say so.

Skippy said:
Soooo, a speeding ticket is also a CRIME? OK, if you say so.

lol, no you got that ticket because you were obeying the law

cjd ohio 1 said:
lol, no you got that ticket because you were obeying the law

Some how now I fear for my life as all of those CRIMINALS out there on the freeways are free to break the law.

Skippy said:
Some how now I fear for my life as all of those CRIMINALS out there on the freeways are free to break the law.

well now you know what breaking the law is, but nah, dont be that scared

cjd ohio 1 said:
well now you know what breaking the law is, but nah, dont be that scared

Why shouldn’t I be scared? They are CRIMINALS! CRIMINALS! I tell you! Ready and free to continue their daily CRIME SPREE!

Those ladies hiring the teenager baby sitter for the evening – MORE CRIME!
THEY PAY WITH CASH! THEY DON’T BOTHER TO CHECK WITH THE SS! – MORE CRIME!

Skippy said:
Why shouldn’t I be scared? They are CRIMINALS! CRIMINALS! I tell you! Ready and free to continue their daily CRIME SPREE! Those ladies hiring the teenager baby sitter for the evening – MORE CRIME!THEY PAY WITH CASH! THEY DON’T BOTHER TO CHECK WITH THE SS! – MORE CRIME!

we know you are a liberal, so i know its hard for you not to overreact but try

It’s like I said yesterday… Skippy is a true believer. It doesn’t matter what he says, or what facts are presented… he will always believe that he’s right. Even when it’s obvious he’s wrong, he’s still right.

So yes, he said a misdemeanor wasn’t a crime, and yes he was proven wrong. But just because he was wrong, it doesn’t mean he was “wrong.” At least not to him.

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You are intoxicated. You are going to have a hangover.

There are three types of hangovers:

1.)noteworthy

2.) significant

3.) monumental

Be careful old chum.

purveyor said:
SKIPPY,

You are intoxicated. You are going to have a hangover.

There are three types of hangovers:

1.)noteworthy

2.) significant

3.) monumental

Be careful old chum.

Another wingnut clown playing with his crystal ball.

Tell me, how many fingers I am holding up?

With 2012 around the corner, it’s time to woo Latino voters once again. I wonder where this stupid dude came out from all of a sudden and why now. Apparently he is being used to promote the Democrat’s usual “lip service” which is basically sufficient for ignorant Latinos to vote for Democrats. The few enlightened ones do not fall for this trick.

The “mere talk” of amnesty by liberals and progressives is the tactic they have been using to get majority of the ignorant Latino votes for Democrats; and that is what they are counting on now with political moves like this one being carried out by the so called Pulitzer Prize Winning Journalist.

If one looks beyond the smoke and mirrors and lip service, and does an assessment of the issue logically, the question to ask is why will a so called Pulitzer Prize Journalist come to promote passage of the DREAM Act in 2011? After the 2006 elections, the Democrats had TOTAL CONTROL of the Senate and House of Representatives, with an overwhelming majority for 4 full years: from January 3, 2007 to January 3, 2011. And for 2 years within those 4 years, they also had control of the White house after Obama was elected in 2008.

With TOTAL CONTROL of both houses of Congress, and control of the White House, they could have done ANYTHING they wanted to do; which means they could have passed a Dream Act or even granted amnesty to the 12 million illegal aliens if they truly had the intention.

What logical explanation could Democrats give for not passing the DREAM Act, when they had TOTAL CONTROL without any significant opposition from Republicans?? Why would anyone in their sound mind including the Pulitzer Prize winner who calls himself a journalist, believe that the DREAM Act should be passed now, when it is 100 times more difficult to do it with the Republicans in control of the House of Rep.

If majority of Latino voters are not so ignorant and look beyond the lip service, they should easily see that Democrats prefer to push the Dream Act forward now that they can be opposed by the House, in order to tell the Latino people that Republicans are the obstacle to what Hispanics desire, therefore they should vote for democrats ONCE AGAIN as they usually do.

It is easy to understand that Democrats will definitely do what they want to do if it is truly their intention, and an example of this was the passage of Obamacare with no single Republican in favor of it, and instead 34 Democrats joining Republicans in the opposition. Democrats do not truly want to pass a Dream Act or amnesty for illegals, knowing that they might never win elections for the next 50 years, due to the fact that more than 70% of Americans are opposed to it. Instead they want to continue demagoguery with the “lip service” which has been working for them in past elections, and they always come up with new tactics in courting the Latino vote as with Obama’s recent trip to Puerto Rico, and this silly move by the Pulitzer Prize journalist.

Jose Antonio Vargas had been sleeping for the past 4 years when there was NO OPPOSITION to “his Dream Act”, and all of a sudden he wakes up to pursue the Dream act now that there is very significant opposition, which can actually render the Bill dead on arrival. There is absolutely no logic behind ignoring a task when it is MOST EASY to accomplish, and then deciding to take up the task when it is MOST DIFFICULT to accomplish. Jose Antonio Vargas has a different agenda than he expresses, and I can tell it is to woo the Latino voters with demagoguery. The saddest thing is that the tactics actually works eventually as it always has, and ignorant Latinos fall for it.

Let liberals and progressives quit with the consistent demagoguery, and let amnesty or the so called Dream Act be put forward to the American people in a referendum. It will be rejected by no less than 70% of US citizens, and that is how democracy works in a Republic, with a Congress that has a job approval rating of only 18%

purveyor said:
Sir, Respectfully, you are attempting to tip toe between compassion and reason. I have read enough of your Posts to know that you are both intelligent and wise.

However, considering how America got in this mess, ask yourself, do you trust those whom you are trying to help?

What are the real sentiments hidden behind those brown eyes, meaning, are you being used?

I suggest we can’t talk about Illegal border crossings without talking about overcrowded schools, overcrowded prisons, illegal drugs. We just can’t compartmentalize the problems as they are all the same problem.

I suggest that liberal social flexibility created much of this, while Conservatives were shamed into looking the other way.

Thanks Purveyor –
I agree with your comments however, to clarify I wasn’t “tiptoeing” per se, but trying inject a bit of rational thought to all the posts that so quickly call for the deportation of all illegals, with no offer of realistic solution. I grew up and continue to live with Mexico as my backyard so have had first hand experience with illegals on almost every level of the social spectrum. Also, I myself, was once the holder of a ‘greencard’ when I worked abroad.

I was merely conceding that this issue is not black and white. Truth be told I have run the gamut on thoughts that run from compassion to resentment. I hate watching part of my tax dollars go to support my local school district – a district that saw over 400 children NOT show up for school immediately following the close of the border in the days that followed 9-11. These dollars should be going towards hiring new teachers and expanding or keeping science/art programs and any number of costly improvements.

I believe first and foremost our national security should be top priority- with regard to green cards this administration has issued more visas to more muslim nations, hostile to the US than any other. That to me is a backdoor – come as a student- stay as long you want…. I only say Muslim, not as an indictment but to point out that they are the only countries that are openly hostile to our way of life, principals and democracy.

I agree with you 100% that the issue cannot be compartmentalized – using something as the DREAM act under the banner of education and “think of the children” naturally lends itself to appeal to the emotions of the issue, not the hard cold reality.
I would support any solution that allows our border patrol, INS, ICE and local police to do their job and deport any and all illegals regardless of country, age, or excuse. They have had this control manipulated by politics for to long. I would also support a more controlled system on the number of student visas for foreign students.
This is an enormous issue that covers all aspects of preserving our nation’s- social, economic, political, security way of life. If the politicians and activists would get out of the way, maybe America could find a reasonable solution.

purveyor said:
To, MlB,

I re-read what I wrote to you on the previous page and it didn’t come out right, perhaps even pompous?

If I offended you I apologize. You wrote a thoughtful letter about a sad subject–the plight of human beings.

My apologies.

PURVEYOR

No worries! I think most intelligent posters on this site understand this issue has many shades of gray. The sad truth is that those who really matter, get used with those with a higher agenda- their plight is secondary and are so often used to promote a political motive, usually orchestrated by a liberal agenda. Making conservatives appear to be insensitive and lacking compassion is their favorite tactic (used on Obamacare, social security, global warming etc…) – look at how AZ was treated by our own President.

It is time to let facts speak with more clarity than activist rhetoric.

“I am one of many, many people. And we are not who you think we are. We don’t just mow your lawns, and babysit your kids, and, you know, serve you tacos. We do that — we do a really good job doing that — but we do other things, and we are a part of this society.” JA Vargas
This fully applies to all illegal immigrants, if in US, Canada, European Union or Israel …

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This illegal alien scumbag should be arrested and deported immediately! Everyone is sick and tired of hearing the bleeding heart crap this, and all of the other criminal supporters regurgitate, as justification for the unjustifiable!
You do not enter ANYONE’S HOUSE, uninvited and unwelcome!! If you do, you are a CRIMINAL, plain and simple! Just when the hell did the legal citizens of this country take a back seat to the wants of ILLEGAL ALIEN PARASITES, and their supporters?! When did these criminal illegal alien trespassers think OUR CHILDREN, should “bend-over” to accommodate their ILLEGAL ALIEN CHILDREN! Corrupt politicians and the illegal alien supporters have spun this issue into a scenario that suggests WE are the criminals if WE protest in any way?!!
Look at your Representatives immigration record. If they are not fully committed to securing our borders and strictly enforcing our immigration laws, they must go! We are NOT the worlds Welfare Department.
Take a lesson from California…we are broke!!

LOGICandREASON said:
Let liberals and progressives quit with the consistent demagoguery, and let amnesty or the so called Dream Act be put forward to the American people in a referendum. It will be rejected by no less than 70% of US citizens, and that is how democracy works in a Republic, with a Congress that has a job approval rating of only 18%

Well done. Well written.

The accusation of Conservative paranoia, that Hispanic control over the South West is actually a conspiracy, a tactic for a Socialist/Hispanic strategic goal, is NOT paranoid fear. Rather, is simple birth rate mathematics! I saw this coming 20 years ago. Once the Socialist-Democrats have electoral control they can vote themselves YOUR paycheck!

Look at the Leftists in Washington, particularly the Charlie Rangells, Cynthia Mckinnons and Barbara Boxers. The Constitution is an impediment, NOT a philosophy. Once the Socialist Dems can control the election process, which means the ability to appoint Supreme Court Justices. The balance of power will be meaningless.

“What would Lenin do?” Exactly this, before he resorted to violent revolution. (Stalin just killed everyone, Lenin, at least, gave you a chance to sell your soul)

What is curious is the plurality of Americans that support their own (and ours) demise. Why would they do that? Guilt, ideology?

Purveyor