Oh that last remark by Laura about his villa in the Dominican Republican…ZING.

Oh that last remark by Laura about his villa in the Dominican Republican…ZING.

50 Years of Democrats playing the Race Card to keep black voters in the Democratic fold, and they’ve been duped by their Tawana Sharpton-NAACP-Black Caucus-type “Overseer’s”!!

Hey black Obama voters — Did that Million-Dollar Bus pass through YOUR NEIGHBORHOODS???
- are any of you at Martha’s Vineyard???

Yeah, that was pretty awesome.  Hey Charlie, why not lend Barry the pad in the DR?

As usual, Charlie really made an arse of himself.  It’s always fun to watch though.  Laura was great tonight.  In one segment, she took on two Dem strategists without breaking a sweat. Love her!

Rangel’s statement that “he doesn’t come from the political party that can talk about plantations and that type of thing”is pretty hilarious considering it was a Republican, Lincoln, who put an end to slavery.

Hell, it was even the southern Dixiecrats who filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964.  Robert Byrd even stayed in the Democrat party until his recent death.

She did a great job, and she didn’t get angry, Chuckles really counts on making people angry.

Even Al Gore’s daddy fought the Civil Rights Act all the way in the courts and took his son, AL, out of school because he feared it would become integrated.

I would be happy if Rangel would just clear his damn throat!
Good Lord, Charlie, suck on a damn box of Sucrets before coming on TV!

Tax cheat writing the tax code for how many years…?

Another fine gem propped up by the progressives.

Own him, losers.

Laura Ingraham was magnificent . Rangel stumbled and bumbled and could not answer a single question .

Lyndon Johnson destroyed the black family and Rangel knows it .

I was just watching this live, and even before the pretty girl line, I was saying to my dog and my TV screen, this HAS to be on Mediate.  Then the “Bill O’Reilly told me he had a special surprise….” or whatever, and I knew Mediate would hang its head in shame if it didn’t promote this one.  

I was surprised that Rangel would even go on the show.  I guess he booked when he assumed the worst would be dumbo O’Reilly merely talking over him, with sound and fury and all. Obviously, he was pretty in the dark (no racism implied) about what he was about to encounter.  Laura is so incisive, so much better than O’Reilly I wish Fox would give her a prime time slot (preferably, O’Reilly’s).

About taking on the two dems at once….I was thinking the same thing.  O’Reilly needs the balance of a conservative, since he operates in a  principle-free zone, but Laura, a former Supreme Court clerk, can take on all liberal comers in a single bound. Loved it!

Another example of outdated and inflammatory language, which is really distasteful, especially when people know better. People refusing to restrain the themselves, but I guess it helps the ratings. 

This was supposed to be a discussion, but it descended into a pointless list of talking points on both sides. I’m not sure what Laura Ingraham got out of it in the long run. Clearly feeling she was being patronized returned the sentiment in kind, but she’s supposed to be objective.

As a black man; I despise white liberals for what they’ve done to my community.

Laura Ingraham, like Meghan Kelly, is brilliant, articulate, and gorgeous! Did she get her jewelry back or did she have to buy a new cross?

I wish I had been able to see the exchange between the two.  I am on my phone with no flash so I can’t even watch the video.  I’m wondering if maybe the Democrats, after half a century (+) might be losing the hearts and minds of the black community.  Does anyone have any thoughts along that line?

As a life long Dem, all I can say is every circus has its clowns, and Rangel’s one of our biggest. But please, don’t even imagine Lincoln would be welcome in today’s Republican Party.

You’re probably right, that the Democrats are losing the singular ‘Black Community,’ as you call them to the Republicans and the Tea Party. 

I’m sure that would make sense, because they more readily have their best interests at heart given the more appealing language coming from their loud-hailers. Almost certainly after this discussion will turn about face.

I appreciate your honesty. Now prepare for the backlash. 

Let’s just hope this national malaise lasts through next November…we can expunge the Socialist-Democratic Party for the next generation!!You were right Barry…HOPE & CHANGE!LMAO!!!

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/18/obama-administration-to-review-all-deportation-cases/#ixzz1VR6K3II1

No offense, BeggerBoy, but that’s the oldest talking point in the book.  I could say the same thing about JFK and the Democrats of today.

Yeah, you might be right, hard to believe any leading members of either party from 40 or 50 years ago having the same standing in their respective parties today. 

GREAT WORK, LAURA!

She’s a cunt.

You must be thrilled when white liberals insinuate that you suffer from stockholm syndrome, osajulian.

That’s all you need to know.  That a number of white liberals believe that black people are incapable of independent thought.

It tells you quite a bit about their ideology.

Psst…..Charlie she’s not pretty. 

If there was ever a definition of trolling statement, that is it right there. Oh well, let the fun, and hits begin.

and you’re a troll.

Congressman Rangel Sir…You just got destroyed by that “pretty little girl”

I will add my trolling comment… errr  two cents right here…

You know Laura Ingraham had sex with Keith Olbermann right?  Probably more than once too.

Also Bill Maher and Ann Coulter did too.  Well with each other, not Keith and Laura.  Well, that we know of.

Flame away…

Yo, Chawlie, I think your bow-tie is too tight.

How about some blood flow to the your gray-matter?

As if…

Ingraham disassembled his ass and handed it back to him on a platter, good for her.

is ingraham arguing that the democrats should have used their power btw 2008-2010
to spend more money on anti-poverty programs?

ingraham appears to be arguing that president hasn’t done enough for black people.

does she actually want the president to do more for black people (and other minorities)?

The Kingfish always says foolish things…it’s preferable, to him, than actually answering the question asked.

As a white man, I despise what ignorance, bankrupt ethics, greed and out of check plutocracy, no mater their political or social leanings…has done to my nation. (especially my state!)

If she was trying to make a point, that was a terrible interview.  They brought him on for an interview, but maybe I don’t know the definition of an interview.  She talking over him before he got 5 words out.  I wonder what percentage of this segment each of them had to speak. Skilled interviews can get the answers they are looking for without talking over people.

Imagine if that was your wife…. geez

Rangel refused to even address her point that for 2 years Democrats controlled the house, had a filibuster proof majority in the senate and had the oval office. 

Why didn’t they pass a massive tax increase then?  We know why.  Because then they’d own it.  There wasn’t a peep out of them about tax increases when they had the power to do it.  They need a partner in blame to save their political hides.

Evidence that you had a preconceived notion, known as prejudice, which clouded your mind to what she was actually getting at. I’m not surprised, lefty nutjobs let their handlers tell them what to think, and it becomes their crutch.

and there was the follow up.  A perfect storm of trolling activity is headed this way.

Dims (D) turn on black conservatives worse than Muslims turn on their apostates

She didn’t allow him to spew lefty bullshit unchallenged. There’s a difference.

Is that you Ed?

I’m not impressed. Rangel = low hanging fruit.

And thats an understatement.

She’s asking the question why they didn’t when they had the power to do so.  And why they didn’t vote in their beloved tax increases as well.  You know, since they’re so compassionate and benevolent and all.

no darla, she was wondering why rangel is whining about it when he had the chance to do something about it    the reason…..its a good talking point for democrats

and just a question for the ladies here……was rangel trying to be demeaning her by calling her just a pretty girl?

‘Rangel refused to even address her point…’

Not a single point was exchanged in discussion, it was continuation of shouted talking points from both sides, which some here regard as a victory. Congratulations. I much prefer to hear an intelligent discussion and then make my own informed opinion.

I suppose this is what qualifies as satisfying discourse to some now. 

If the argument is good enough, it should stand up to a respectful scrutiny rather than screaming over each other. As someone already suggested she did get to ‘Zing him about his Villa.’ 

If Zinging is what it’s all about…

…Congratulations!

He was plainly asked what Democrats had done for the black community and he went straight to “we were obstructed by Republicans”.  She corrected him about their full filibuster proof control of both houses and the WH.  He would not address it.  You must have missed it.  Or you’re acting like it didn’t happen, just like Charlie.

I see Christian conservatives are commenting on the article:

“That    C.  U.  N.  T.  is dammed ugly!!!
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/18/obama-administration-to-review-all-deportation-cases/#ixzz1VRJ2y1uB”

Leftists have nothing constructive or positive to say, so they deserve to get trampled on. I approve of Laura bludgeoning Rangel. This is a miserable time to be a Leftist, and happily things for them will only get worse.

if I was charlie, I would apologise for calling her a pretty girl too
the woman is butt ugly

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of course.  Perhaps he remembered back when the “pretty girl” would flutter the eyelashes and say “thank you” and that would be that.  

“Imagine if that was your wife…. geez.”  
Who as potential “wife” are you referring to?  Charlie Rangel?  I’d refer to him as Laura’s bitch, rather than her wife.  

You’re good at trolling the bait, so I’ll bite if you really don’t get it.  The point was not what Laura thought should be done, it was that given the views of the House Ways and Means chairman and other lib/dem black leaders, weren’t they being inconsistent/compliant when they had their big chance to enact their dream agenda and Obama didn’t do squat.  And now, aren’t most being a bit too quiet about this lack of accomplishment given who occupies the WH.  

You seem to smart for this to escape you.  The bottom line is that Obama is not just a failure for conservatives, he is a failure to his base as well.  He’s a failure.  Period.

Campaigning much? 

By the way, he is a Representative for a district in Florida, which last I checked, wasn’t voted on in a national election.  So look for votes and donations elsewhere.

‘Or you’re acting like it didn’t happen, just like Charlie…’

No, but I do believe President Obama wanted to get the most pressing issues, which the Democratic Administration strived and longed to see pass into law, while they had that window of opportunity. On the other hand, I can’t say with certainty because I don’t have the ear of The White House and neither does Ingraham. Although if shouting at Rangel makes her feel as if she has, then so be it. There’s your answer. Again that’s why I wanted to hear the discussion rather than shouted talking points.

President Obama genuinely or naively believed he could later get bipartisan approval on some issues. It’s an old fashioned idea now, I know. Considering now how soured Washington has become and that’s reflected so well on these threads.

If Ingraham screams a triumphant ‘what have the democrats done for the black community,’ that may raise a shrug of disappointment, but I don’t expect they’ll cry eureka and start to join in large numbers the warm and welcoming ranks of the subtly seductive Tea Party or Republicans. Although with today’s, charming and compelling radio and TV hosts…who knows…

And when it comes to what passes for the cream of the Republican Party today….God Lord!…..I think I’m starting to miss Nixon!!

But not as ugly as the thoughts that run through your head about her when you are…you know.
Here’s a question for ya’ – Laura or Rachel?

As the father-in-law of a successful black man, I agree and so does he.

laura beats maddow, but honestly that’s not saying much is it?
dana loesch on the other hand…hot as hell

i thought so, i wanted to see the opinions of both sides of the aisle

If Rangel was in jail where he belongs, he would be someone else’s pretty girl.

Lets be honest, there is nothing sweeter to the right than finding away to “stick it” to the black president.It is such a fallacious argument to say while a white guy out of work and a black guy out of work that some how the president a black guy should have done something differently for the black community. Ingraham is so intellectually dishonest to suggest some solution to black unemployment while at the same parallel time white folks are unemployed.Face it, all Fox is up to  is mischief.Fox had no problem running their scary black guy segments ever since Obama took office, to now pretend as if they care, because Fox doesn’t care about black issues.Let me put it another way,Fox doesn’t care about “Hip Hop issues” 

Fox should just stick to the regular meme  about Obama(black) being a racist,healthcare bill is reparations for black folks,the Black Panther is terrorising poor ole white folks at ever corner etc etc.

Fox need not pity the black community, their not stupid enough to think Fox supposedly cares.

This is Obama’s book-reading-to-kids-while-disaster-strikes moment, however, instead of ten minutes, he has decided to take ten days.

My point was – we could compare the looks of Conservatives against Liberals all day and you would lose very contest.

Charles Rangel seemed confused the discussion wasn’t confined to his definition of identity politics – as if he were a doddering and incompetent – albeit genially and thoroughly corrupt – older gentleman.  Or, far more likely, merely unwilling to debate his core philosophy and turning instead to talking points – while being genially and thoroughly corrupt.  Good of him to retract the condescending remark, however.  Else I wouldn’t feel good about calling him genial.  Thoroughly corrupt is a given, so no prob there.

Butt ugly? Get thee to an optometrist, my friend. Partisan? Yes… Ugly? In NOBODY’S mind. You are a fool or a blind fool… either way, just a fool nonetheless.

You make some good points.  But 0bama and the Democrats didn’t do themselves any favors for later bipartisan support with comments like “We won” “Elections have consequences” and “We’re driving the bus and Republicans can sit in the back”  Or by passing 0bamacare on Christmas eve, locking Republicans out of the bill’s discussions and without a single Republican amendment. 

And to be fair to Ingraham, I wouldn’t say that this was a triumphant cry or gotcha moment.  This issue has been in the news cycle the last two days with Maxine Waters’ comments at her town hall and Allen West’s comments today.  Perfectly acceptable to ask for reaction from a fellow member of the CBC.

Ingraham called it condescending when it happened, so she thought so too.

No worries, Dem4Ever2, that video will definitely be available online when you are ready!  THAT was good television.  Ingraham handled Rangel like a skilled toreador; Rangel, as usual, was full of bull.  

I think you may be onto something with the black community’s allegiances, given Maxine Waters’ recent interaction with constituents in Detroit on 8/16/11.  They are at least starting to wonder about Obama. As the leader goes, so goes the party?  Fingers crossed… 

Wow

They needed to wait to try to get the Repubs on board so they could share the blame when it failed.

top of my head, I can only think of 4-5 good looking conservative women
on the liberal side, you have pretty much the whole of Hollywood so liberals have prettier women

The segment where she handled 2 Dem operatives all by her little self was better. 

What is Laura’s problem she wont let Rangel speak?

just my opinion baby
if you think she is drop dead gorgeous…I suggest you get some higher standards

Well said!! You may have to draw her a picture though. loll.

What are you jealous you didnt get any from Keith and Bill?

and your an idiot.

The main thing I got out of the whole discussion was ” You think Ingraham is attractive?”  She is a horse face looking woman, far from attractive, and full of hate…..I can’t stand to watch the show when she is substituting, she tries to get publicity for her stupid new book….Smoke & Mirrors with Miss Laura….

Who are you taking about…Obamas wife?

It reminded me of Bill O’Reillys interview with Brainless Frank. Laura did a great Job!!!!

Take your meds and call it a night. However if they’re not working, ask the doctor to up your mg. Just saying!

As a Hispanic, I couldn’t agree with you more. 

I find it very sad that these so call black activist are using their very own people just to stay in power. Rangle should be ashamed of himself because he knows that Obama is not doing anything to elevate the lifestyles of the African Americans. And shame on Obama, he is also using them to get elected but will again forsake them in the end. The reason that he doesn’t bother to go to the inner black communities is because he knows that he has their vote because he is black and he knows the loyalty that they have for their own race. However I’m sure that most of them don’t know that the democrat party were the segregates in the early days. They were the racist and in fact promoted it by segregating the schools. So it is their own people that they elect, hoping that they in fact will help them. Rangle admitted that Obama hadn’t done anything for the black community. However he blamed it on the Republicans even thou they were in charge of the house, senate and White House. How pathetic!

“Playing the race card,” is the white person’s knee-jerk statement that they think allows them the room to say something offensive about Black people, while rolling their eyes and acting as if racism never happens. Every Black person in America – conservative or liberal knows what’s really up. The reason Black America is so far behind is because white people keep discriminating against them in jobs, housing and education. I got an idea for you smug white folks — tell some Black people how you’re doing financially, then tell them they live on a plantation, then when they “play the race card,” tell them to get a life.

 Ok silly question time. Ive always been curious why does a guy like Rangel go on a show like the Factor? I mean what does he actually get out of something like this? The same I would ask why a right winger would go on and be ripped apart by a lefty interviewer. It seems to me with the polarizing media they have nothing to gain by going on these shows, either right or left.

 lol

racist
 

“Just” a pretty girl..  as if her only value is her looks and she couldn’t possibly know what she is talking about. Can you say 1950′s? I was horrified when I saw it tonight on the Factor. Where are the outraged liberal women? Didn’t they fight for equality in the workplace and to be judged on their abilities, not their looks? This guy is a democrat? Shame on you Charlie Rangel.

Yeah that was impressive. You never see an MSNBC take on two conservatives guests at once. 

He was just giving the standard democratic talking points. “Bushes fault, the republicans fault, yada yada yada…

I know as the “host” she was supposed to maybe be like Bill but crap… I hated her and her cheap shots at the end were pathetic…

As the son of an Irishman I couldn’t disagree with you more

it is a possibility.

Two conservatives? They rarely have one. This is a good illustration why they don’t.

“Fox need not pity the black community, their not stupid enough to think Fox supposedly cares”

If you plan on belittling the intelligence of others, you may want to consider using spell check so you aren’t butchering the English language. Just a thought. :)

I’m assuming you are an MSNBC viewer. LOL.

Not surprising words coming from a despicable, crooked as the day is long, racist. 

In otherwords one of the democrat party’s leading and most tarnished stars.

Ingraham is great, I’ve never seen Rangel come unglued so fast. Reminds me of the time Allan Gottlieb nailed Chuck Schumer on Crossfire back in the day.  Never saw Ol’ Chucky crater like he did in that segment.

That word is taken . It’s BFD’s pet name for Robert Stephenson ( Real Royal Emperor , among many other names).

Seen your nasty picture, Michael .

You look like Bigfoot”s much fatter Uncle Fester .

“Right winger(s)” seldom if ever get “ripped apart” by Lefty interviewers…  LOL   In fact, usually quite the opposite happens.  (unless you include the Katie Couric/Palin interview about the “Bush doctrine?”)

Is virtual axiom, that when a Right wing interviewer, interviews, they ask substantive and relevant questions, expecting, (seldom receiving) such in return.

Granted, “Perception is reality.”  The cognitive dissonance suffered by the Left, recently, has affected their “perception.”  However, and for example, when Oreilly interviewed Obama, the event accomplished a transfer of knowledge, not servile fawning.

Anyway, Mediate, ain’t the old Mediaite, is it?  Has changed and not all for the better.

Purveyor

Laura would be excellent IF she’d let the guy answer the question.  Yes, Rengel does ‘go on’ but she’s got to give him time to answer.

I came away with a very different impression than other conservatives.

I think Laura was, as Rangel tried to point out, lacking a cohesive point to her questions.  As Rangel repeatedly tried to point this out, Laura just kept doubling down, modifying her point and just asking any question she could think of and not letting Rangel answer calmly ANY question.

Frankly, by doing this, I think she gave Rangel the high ground.  Those of you who thought Laura had a central point to her questions need to watch the whole thing again.  She didn’t.  Rangel was right.

If this was Rangel’s first interview with Laura, I can totally understand why Rangel may have gotten the impression Laura was just a impolite ditz with a pretty face.

I came away with a very different impression than other conservatives.

I think Laura was, as Rangel tried to point out, lacking a cohesive point to her questions.  As Rangel repeatedly tried to point this out, Laura just kept doubling down, modifying her point and just asking any question she could think of and not letting Rangel answer calmly ANY question.

Frankly, by doing this, I think she gave Rangel the high ground.  Those of you who thought Laura had a central point to her questions need to watch the whole thing again.  She didn’t.  Rangel was right.

If this was Rangel’s first interview with Laura, I can totally understand why Rangel may have gotten the impression Laura was just a impolite ditz with a pretty face.

Thank God Charlie was wearing his teeth this time.

And you are a d!ck!

No, Pelosi and Clinton are more your idea of pretty men.

Yeah, that “war on poverty” really got blacks out of poverty.

WHY DID FOX AND FRIENDS SAY ZIP ON LAURA AND CHARLIES INTERVIEW?????????????? VERY DISSAPOINTED THIS MORNING.

Seems that only Dems ever feel the need to apologize – for anything. Laura Schlessinger still hasn’t apologized for multiple use of the “N” word to a caller; deadbeat dad hasn’t apologized for calling our President a “Liar,” when all it was a different interpretation of a set of facts (his interpretation being flat out wrong, I might add), or what about Cong. Doug Lamborn (CO) calling our President a “tar baby.”  Then of course, you have the fat tub of lard drug addict Rush Limbaugh, suggesting that the new Oreo cookie be called o-bam-eo.  Still waiting for those apologies. 

All Gop seems to do is whine – you don’t like being called Terrorists? If the shoe fits – look up the word. Even McConnell admitted GOP held the country “hostage.” That is what terrorists do, right? But of course, still not a word of them over the ongoing disrespect for the President.  

NOTE: You CAN disgree w/our Pres without being disrespectful. Try it.

 Good answer purveyor but not to my question lol.  My point being what does and old coot like rangel have on going on a show like this? Your not going to win and even if you do there is no one you are going to convert.

Charlie, like a lot of liberals like to “run the clock out”.  If they talk long enough you might forget your original question is their hope.  Or you’ll just move on to another.  That’s why every time Charlie started evasive maneuvers, Laura had to call him out.

Like you libs did to Bush??

Try again!

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025964.php
 

Laura Ingraham butt ugly?  I’m guessing you are either gay or into fat chicks.  Which one is it?

“Just my opinion baby”?

Who are you, Austin Powers?

Yes, very logical.

Yeah,

And after the last three years, I miss Jimmy Carter!

She is not supposed ot be objective.  She”s a pundit, not a broad caster.    Should Kieth Olberman or Rachel Maddow be expected to be objective?

Yeah…I liked her comment on “where was the budget for the last 700 days while the dems controlled congress as well?” as well.  It’s amazing when you lay it all out, how little spine these weasels have when it comes to congressional responsibility versus their personal career.

Let me give you a little scenario to help you understand why things went the way they did.
 
If you asked me a question such as “is the sky blue?”  and I respond to that question by talking about the pros and cons of throwing a fastball versus a curve ball against a left handed hitter, would you get mildly frustrated and possibly more persistent in asking me your original question?
 
What your basically seeing is Laura, after Charlie clearly avoids the question, pounding him with it over and over until its so obvious that he’s avoiding it that he eventually has no choice but to answer.  Unfortunately, this is how conversations go with spineless bureaucrats.
 
Its unavoidable.

Ingraham is a typical right wing hateful, well, bitch. Much like Coulter.

Charlie Rangel should have a “Best before 1939″ burnt on his forehead.

Oh yes, I’ll be clicking on a foxnews link – when hell freezes over.  

Oh, ok, like Ingraham can speak on behalf of black people?   She shld stick to what she knows – right wing tea party buffonery. 

Of course they’re not going to leave the party in droves….do drug addicts stop seeing their dealers when they realize they’re addicted to crack?  The neat thing about the LBJ’s great society is it has now blessed three generations with an apathetic, miserable existence that intrinsically punishes those who want to leave the whole tar pit mess for a better and more productive life.
 
Gov entitlements=crack.

 I know and who and why do people buy these books? Or for that matter any book from right and left wing pundits, with the exception of stewards books which are freaking hilarious!

Thats because in their mind you are an apostate

Move to Massachusetts or Vermont then.  You’ll feel much better about Florida afterwards.

 Translation: I refuse to acknowledge an attractive women whom I ideologically disagree with.

Look at this list.

With the honorable exception of Republican members, who are just barely tolerated, this is a list of prehistoric fossils whose very presence and total inability and unwillingness to live up to their promises of speaking and ACTING for the black community, WILL lead reasonable and smart blacks to an awakening, and dump plantation owner Democrats who have the temerity of taking their votes for granted.  

http://www.cbcfinc.org/cbc/cbc-members.html

I agree with you.  Problem is the idiots in his district will still elect him again and again in hopes of collecting just a few more scraps from the entitlement table.

BINGO

Hehe…when you said that I just pictured a teary eyed Charlie with smudged mascara and a black eye calling the cops on his abusive spouse Laura.

Hey, I scored a perfect 49/49 the other day and yesterday shot a 46. Actually my shooting was better yesterday as the rate of fire has quickened and the grouping is tighter. At the Gun Club, what I/we do, is set paper plates up, 7 across, so, with a 1911 and 7 round magazines, a perfect score is 7 rounds per plate. Grouping is nice, but doesn’t increase the score. Pistol shooting is damn difficult to do well, as you must know. Also, punching paper is way different than a human being? Anyway, I haven’t seen you lately so I took this opportunity to be irritating! LOL

Yes, the black people are all becoming republicans, and most of them watch FOX

I’m not black, but I can speak on their behalf.  Since the great society, 75% of kids live in single parent homes, their unemployment is twice that of the rest of the country, violent crime in inner city neighborhoods in through the roof, and the dropout rate is up in the 70% range.
 
I cant make this observation of policy failure unless I’m black?

When did Charlie Rangel go blind?
Calling Laura Ingraham pretty is like calling Mary Matalin a human being.

If Ingraham wants to be more of journalist than her bimbo friends, she needs to learn how to conduct a reasonable interview.

Shame is not something Democrats experience.  They dont have the gene that allows it,

Really,
 
Tell that to the out of state union goons at the Wis. STATE recall elections. 

Really,
 
Tell that to the out of state union goons at the Wis. STATE recall elections. 

Here we go again with the tired and unsubstantiated implications of racism or racial indifference.
 
I think your confusion lies in the fact that since you see everything through the lens of racial color, you assume that everyone else does as well. 
 
Wouldn’t be cool if political speech and commenting on national policy could be done without fear of being accused of being racist?

I guess we should be as respectful to Obama as you Dems were to Bush.

Too bad Laura didn’t bring up Rangels condos. It would have been fun.

 She isn’t a journalist and apparently somehow someway she’s pretty successful. Beats me why because she is the worst of the worst in my opinion, but hey i guess thats what makes the world go round.

Yeah…I feel the same way too.  I think anybody who buys and reads books about a political ideology that I disagree with are stupid as well

Kinda like all of us beating our heads against the wall trying to pursude each other that we’re right and you’re wrong. The only thing that this does point out is how divided we’ve become as a nation. Obama and the media has managed to wake up a group of people that never thought or displayed such passion either way. More so conservative mindsets. The media also stokes the fire with articles that more so offend the conservatives because they have an agenda and that’s to promote their ideology, and that’s left wing idiology. Because it’s been so blatant, ( ie their protection and promotion of Obama ) like never been seen before, it helped again, wake up a giant. 2010 showed what they woke up. So bottom line, arguing with each other doesn’t really solidify anything just makes us hate each other more. And then again, maybe that is their objective.

Hey look!  Tom just played the race card.

 I dont shoot in a competative manner I shoot to get the “hits” as they say. We have to qualify every three months with the pistol and rifle. Three day shoots and one night shoot a year. Ive never been a great shot with the pistol, we go out to 25 yards which is a pain in the butt. Pistol shooting at that distance requires strict fundamentals which need to be practiced a lot. In reality shooting a man size moving target and striking him in a stressful situation at 25 yards is not practical, but its our state mandated quall. Its 50 rounds 10 of which are 15 yards or greater.  Most police shootings occur from 3 yards and in believe it or not. I haven’t been on to much as I get tired of the repetitive uniformed talking points from both sides. More so from your side though:) lol

Ithink you might be wrong as most black people don’t watch FOX News.

Question by Laura, ” what has Obama done for the Black community”. Rangel answer, the Republicans did it. This will be the answer to everything from this moment forward. So what part of Lauras’s question was not cohesive?

I don’t think he was trying to convert anyone.  I think his intent was to go on and dilute or negate what congressman west was saying in order to lessen the his credibility as a congressman and as a spokesperson on issues effecting the black community.

 Do you hate the cheapshots thrown by MSNBC as well or is your hatred reserved for Fox?

She could be a journalist if she maintained her integrity.

 Ehhh Wake up I think its a reaction from both sides who constantly misinform their viewers about the other sides motivations by taking the extreme views of each other respective parties and insisting that those are the mainstream views of those parties. I abhor  listening to far right or left wingers using terms like “Liberals” think this way, or “Conservatives” think this way in order to paint the other side into a picture that they want to present. Making simplistic opinions about complex ideas and view points cause  the conflict. Our politicians and pundits know that this sells the same way the national enquirer sells more magazines than more serious magazines. 

 Ya but then she wouldn’t be able to sell as many books:)

What IleneK really is trying to convey to the group is that she does not agree with Laura’s political views, but cannot refute them with her own views in any coherent manner.  Because of this, IleneK is forced to expose her mental shortcomings by throwing unsubstantiated accusations of hate laced with personal insults.

 Ya probably but he’s being interviewed by someone who is not interested in hearing his opinion on these matters and is more interested on how she will come across in the interview. Going on to Fox and getting into a “debate” with the likes of Ingraham is a waste of time. Her viewers expect her to interrupt him throw snide remarks his way and try and discredit him. 

…or be a FOX commentator.

lol true dat:)

lol true dat:)

Actually I wish we would see more of our politicians on shows that reach opposing audiances  as it gets opposing view points out to viewers who often only see one set of talking points. It would only be beneficial if the hosts would conduct discplined interviews and try to avoid the ever so common gotcha moments. It certainly would not work with hosts like Matthews, or big Ed unless they took a renewed interest in journalism and less interest in their own ego.  

I did not particularly care for this interview as it was to much of an ambush on the part of Ingraham..  The conversation she wanted to have is one that should be had, but a 5 min segment is not the right forum, if she were serious she would have better prepared Wrangle regarding the substance of the conversation. She and Charlie were not on the same level until the very end of the interview and at that point time had expired. Wrangle had been talking about the current economy and Ingraham was trying to talk about the failure of social programs. 

O’Reilly is not as much as a right-wind stalwart as many people believe, that may be why Rangle does his show, unless O’Reilly loses his cool he is generally respectful and allows his guest to fairly present their side, there are those moments when he does talk over everybody to the exclusion of allowing debate, those moments are when his show is at it’s worst.

 I agree when Bill is having a good day he can give a good interview with someone who has an opposing viewpoint. But in all honesty I have never seen Laura give a good interview with anyone. She has had some decent interviews in the past with Christopher Hitchens but this is because she agrees with him on some of his international political views,plus bows to his intellect in other matters and cant compete with his brain. Its to bad he is so sick I wish him well.

 With all due respect Yukon Jack im assuming you are not black, and I get tired of white people trying to tell blacks what is in their best interest. If the majority of blacks vote for democrats then for whatever reason they feel that democrats have their interest in mind. This idea that blacks are the only ones who vote as a group and are therefore brainwashed by the left is silly. I could throw that right back at you and say well evangelical christians vote as a group for republicans,and specifically religious right wing republicans. Are they brainwashed?

The proverbial question is: What has the president done for blacks lately?  A long the way, embedded in a piece, I picked up a list of accomplishments the President has achieved for the American population in general, and African-American community in particular.  To be sure, the Obama presidency is not about black people.  His presidency is about governing for the common-good of all Americans.

Take a look:
http://www.democratsforprogress.com/2011/08/18/dear-rep-barbara-lee-chair-of-the-congressional-black-caucus-can-we-talk/

Very good point! Munipulated sums it up! And Americans are only eating it up like never seem before. And again, is it the objective of the media to drum up more business?

Ingraham saw an opportunity to exploit a black on black fight with her interview of Rep. Rangle. The newest political strategy is to turn the black community against the first black president.  But black people know the blame for the lack of employment lay at the feet of the world business world which are hoarding  a couple of trillions, as well as the  governors who  are cutting their public sector workforce that comprised a large number of black Americans per capital, and the Republican-dominated House, which has not introduced and intend to block  job-creating programs. Ingraham doesn’t give a hoot about black unemployment, she is simply looking for a narrative that might hint at Obama’s strongest supporters turning against him.  That story just isn’t happening. 

 I think so:)

Black people switch to the Democratic Party in 1932.  Prior to that time most blacks were affiliated with the Republican Party. They saw it as the party of Lincoln.  But over time, the Republican Party watched over the disenfranchisement of black people.  The party never embraced an equal rights platform.  After Hoover’s Great Depression, the GOP never did anything to address the needs of black and white poor people.  Then, following WWII the Truman Administration with the GI Bill that moved to improve the quality of life of people and created the white middle class.  In the mid-sixties, the Johnson’s War on Poverty targeted the poor in urban and rural areas, particularly the poor in the Appalachian region.  The end result was the creation of a middle class.  “The Meanness Mania” by Gerald R. Gill explains that within the parameters and funding of Johnson’s War of Poverty it was successful.  Pres. Obama has only been in office 2.7 years.  And many issues dragging down the
African American community are systematic issues that have lingered since the War on Poverty programs ended forty years ago.  Much is needed to maintain the black and white middle class as well as to help black and white poor people.

On this listening tour, the President did not visit the inner cities where most of the black and brown people live, but who is to say this is his last listening tour?  Hopefully, there will be many more listening tours throughout the country. 

Who would have figured that whites would be so concerned about Pres. Obama ignoring the black community when there were many whites who voiced suspicion that Pres. Obama might favor the black community, seek repatriations, or enslave white people?  This conversation has come a long way, baby!

“The Meanness Mania” by Gerald R. Gill explains that within the parameters and funding of  Johnson’s War of Poverty  it was successful.  Pres. Obama has only been in office 2.7 years.  Many issues dragging down the African American community are systematic issues that have lingered since the War on Poverty programs ended forty years ago.

When I heard the term “War on Poverty”  I said that is one for the history books   To be  sure, I think we need another war on poverty for the 21st Century.  “The Meanness Mania” by Gerald R. Gill explained that within the parameters and funding of  Johnson’s, War of Poverty  it was successful.  Pres. Obama has only been in office 2.7 years.  Many issues dragging down the African American community are systematic issues that have lingered since the War on Poverty programs ended forty years ago.

But Ingraham’s intent was to seize on an opportunity to exploit a black on black fight with her interview of Rep. Rangle. The newest political strategy is to turn the black community against the first black president.  But black people know the blame for the lack of employment lay at the feet of the world business world which are hoarding  a couple of trillions, as well as the  governors who  are cutting their public sector workforce that comprised a large number of black Americans per capital, and the Republican-dominated House, which has not introduced and intend to block  job-creating programs. Ingraham doesn’t give a hoot about black unemployment, she is simply looking for a narrative that might hint at Obama’s strongest supporters turning against him.  That story just isn’t happening. 

What is truly endearing is that white people are concerned about Pres. Obama ignoring the black community when at the beginning of his term  many whites voiced suspicion over the thought that Pres. Obama might favor the black community, seek repatriations, or enslave white people? 
This conversation has come a long way, baby!

A long the way, embedded in a piece, I picked up a list of accomplishments the President has achieved for the American population in general, and African-American community in particular.  To be sure, the Obama presidency is not about black people.  His presidency is about governing for the common-good of all Americans:
“President Obama has reformed the health care
system, which will provide subsidies for lower-income individuals who may not
currently be covered (many who are AA), and also provides funding for badly
needed community clinics, while  doing
away with pre-existing condition restrictions such as diabetes, high blood
pressure, and coronary heart disease, all ailments suffered in alarming rates by members of the black community.”

“In addition, women will soon get birth control free
of charge if insured, which means that women who were previously going to
Planned Parenthood – because, even with insurance, they couldn’t afford the
price of contraceptives – won’t need to anymore. This leaves women who are
uninsured more resources to get birth control via Planned Parenthood. Plus, the
stimulus saved the biggest health care provider to the black community, the
various state Medicaid programs. As well, the President closed the Medicare
donut hole in prescription drugs, reduced seniors’ prescription prices by 50%
through the use of generic drugs, and sent $250 payments to seniors to make up
to the lack of a COLA increase for two years now.”

The fact that self-satisfied disgraceful f–k Charlie Rangel still gets heard at all is lousy enough.

The fact that self-satisfied disgraceful f–k Charlie Rangel still gets heard at all is lousy enough.

Since slave analogies are a part of the news cycle: “The
time when a black man worked without rest and vacation are long gone.”

Projecting your thoughts on your wife???

How does your copied and pasted DNC talking points tie into the topic of congress not passing a budget for two years to avoid political backlash in elections?

Would you mind moving to Hell please?

In a post-racist society – as proclaimed by the President – my skin color makes a difference only to those who piss on the legacy of Martin Luther King Jr  and also on the words of Barack Obama.

Whenever black/African-American/Negro/colored people start using their God-given brains and stop voting for the poverty pimps whose main ambition is to retain the status quo – i.e. highest black poverty, highest black illegitimacy,  highest black high-school drop-out rate, highest black number of abortion, etc…. – I will stop pointing these things out.

Who in the black community. in their right mind could ever support phony reverends like Sharpton and Jackson? Or Jackson Lee? Or Clayburn? Or Jackson Jr.?? Or virtually any and all members of the Black Congressional Caucus, with the honorable exception of the barely tolerated Republican members?

Hey, dwarf brain, if you denigrate Mary Matalin, you also denigrate her husband, and the father of their children (who, hopefully will listen to their MOTHER), you know, the mad lizard, known as the Ragin’ Cajun.    

Wow, that was a valiant attempt to re-write history. Though I must attest, it was the Rebuplican party that fought against and filibustered the Civil Rights Amendment, right? Oh, wait, it wasn’t the party of Lincoln, it was the party of the KKK – the Democrats! And who carried it out? Why its the much-loved Democratic Senator Robert Bird himself – an Exalted Cyclops of the KKK.  What percentage of the Rebuplicans in the house and senate voted for it vs. Democrats? I’ll let you look that one up.
 
The fact that blacks feel disenfranchised by Republicans is in fact the very point that West was making. Democrats have been lying to blacks for a long time, accusing Rebuplicans and conservatives of being the racists when it has been the liberals all along. Conservatives want everyone to win or fail and be judged by their merits, not their skin color, and for that we are called racists. 
 
Quiz for you:

Who fought for abortion rights and founded Planned Parenthood as a means to wipe the black race off the face of the earth? Is she a hero of conservatives or liberals today?
 
Which president screened KKK movies in the white house: Republican or Democrat? Is he a hero of conservatives or liberals today?
 
Which party requires blacks to think and vote a certain way, and calls them racist names if they don’t fall into line? You can look that one up too… or if you insist I’ll get you a slew of links.

Which party has controlled the inner cities for decades, promising salvation from poverty via benefits, but only made the problem worse? Or do you really think the problem is better? Hand outs actually hurt more than they help when they are long term and provided without requirements attached, and apparently that also makes us racists, even though the results speak for themselves.

When you have to cite an obscure book by an obscure author and have to qualify your assertion that the war on poverty was successful (“within the parameters and funding of Johnson’s War on Poverty”) then you have already lost the argument.

Your public schooling is showing…

 Again Yukon and ill just take your last paragraph. There are people who support jackson and and sharpton and I will agree that these are not the best representatives for them. But I would argue that Perry, Bachman are not the best representatives for your side either. Yet they have many many supporters. You would tell me that they do represent them in their best interests. Alas its up to them to decide who represents them best.

Did they post on here too? I take it with that comment, you must be from Wisconsin. Do you think the pack will repeat this year?

The two political parties in the mid-1930s. The Republican Party at the turn of the 20th Century was a reformist and progressive party, then it changed.  Neither Party  introduced any executive orders or legislation to lessen racial discrimination until after World War II.  Neither Party has this perfect track record when it comes to the black community, but in recent history, the Democratic Party has a far better record.

Many of the problems of inner urban areas has to do with the lost of the industrial tax base, zoning laws, and statutes for annexation written in various state constitutions.  The endemic problems are more structural, than issues of leadership.

Johnson’s War on Poverty established specific programs.  Each program had designated objectives.  These objectives were reached.   The War on Property was never designed to eliminated poverty throughout the nation.  That would have been great, so within the parameters and funding the endeavor was successful.

Rep Rangel is a tired old man who has nothing useful to say except it was all Bush’s fault. Like Obama he supports destructive economic policies. I like the bow tie though.

Does she ever stop talking?

So what? GW Bush owns a 500 acre ranch in Paraguay that he’ll escape to if he’s ever brought up on war crimes.

they replaced her a$$ tonight, she is terrible, she tried to hard to be o’reilly and she lost

Sure, discount history before the mid-1930′s since it doesn’t help your argument. Awesome tactic.

Let’s play, what do these things have in common? (hint: Democrats)

- Fought to keep slavery legal.
- Founded the KKK. Imposed Jim Crow laws.
- Created the Jim Crow Minstrel to boot (Thomas D. Rice – D)  
- Imposed the Dred Scott Decision.
- Revoked special field order 15, or “40 Acres and a Mule.
- Revoked federal positions for blacks.
- Pro segregation in schools and military.
[thanks Rachel]

Recent History? Please do tell about the good the Democratic Party has done in recent history for the black community? You can probably site me all sorts of INTENDED good… sure the Democrats have promised all sorts of soul-crushing free benefits that were sure to lift them out of their whiteman-inflicted poverty. But just because a community buys into those lies doesn’t mean that the RESULTS were any good. Cite me some results please? Which inner-city is better off today than it was when Democrats took over, telling lies about how free benefits were deserved and which party was the racist one?

Also, seriously, you narrowed the window to between 1930 and the end of WWII? and use that as evidence that the Republican party wasn’t better than the Democrats for blacks? Seriously? A bit of cherry-picking your exposure, yes?

By the way, the fact that you think that only Government action could lessen racial discrimination and benefit a community is a dead giveaway. That’s the whole conservative point: the government ISNT the freaking answer! Get out of the way and let people succeed or fail on their own. When poverty is adequately uncomfortable, people tend to do something about it themselves. And don’t cry to me about how nobody is comfortable in poverty. I grew up in a single-parent household with 5 siblings, below the so-called poverty level. I was immensely comfortable: I never went hungry (unless it was a punishment), always had a roof over my head, working electricity and running water (and usually a TV, a car and a computer.) Wait… I remember now, I was actually uncomfortable: I complained all the time about not having nice clothes and the same cable channels that my friends had… wah, wah!! The point is, the so-called poverty level isn’t poverty. The poor in America have it far better than the poor anywhere else. 

Also, seriously, you narrowed the window to between 1930 and the end of WWII? and use that as evidence that the Republican party wasn’t better than the Democrats for blacks? Seriously? A bit of cherry-picking your exposure, yes?

By the way, the fact that you think that only Government action could lessen racial discrimination and benefit a community is a dead giveaway. That’s the whole conservative point: the government ISNT the freaking answer! Get out of the way and let people succeed or fail on their own. When poverty is adequately uncomfortable, people tend to do something about it themselves. And don’t cry to me about how nobody is comfortable in poverty. I grew up in a single-parent household with 5 siblings, below the so-called poverty level. I was immensely comfortable: I never went hungry (unless it was a punishment), always had a roof over my head, working electricity and running water (and usually a TV, a car and a computer.) Wait… I remember now, I was actually uncomfortable: I complained all the time about not having nice clothes and the same cable channels that my friends had… wah, wah!! The point is, the so-called poverty level isn’t poverty. The poor in America have it far better than the poor anywhere else. 

the old guard are too bonded to servitude…the guard say what you mean and mean what you say and move on the good fellow from New York days are numbered not because he called a pretty girl a pretty girl …he made a a statement saying he is sorry…now that is sorry ,…sorry for speaking the truth done with this one moving to finding the next factor

Turns out Ed Schultz was right about her.