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Rob Reiner Compares Tea Party To Hitler On Bill Maher’s Real Time

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After a week of good behavior brought on by the presence of “Tea Party Person” Dana Loesch, Real Time with Bill Maher returned to “Teabagger”-baiting with a renewed gusto. Besides returning to the free and frequent use of the Liptonian metaphor, Real Time panelist Rob Reiner deployed a guest bogeyman that’s also popular with the Tea Party: Hitler.

While much has (rightly) been made of Tea Partiers fearmongering President Obama as Hitler, that didn’t stop Reiner from speculating that the Tea Party could easily spawn the next Hitler.

(via HBO)

Of course, everyone always thinks their Hitler metaphor is okay because the other guy is really bad, but I think White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs offered as succinct a judgment on this as I’ve heard:

You hear — in this debate you hear analogies, you hear references to, you see pictures about and depictions of individuals that are truly stunning. And you hear it all the time. People — imagine five years ago somebody comparing health care reform to 9/11. Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler. Hopefully we can get back to a discussion about the issues that are important in this country, that we can do without being personally disagreeable and set up comparisons to things that were so insidious in our history that anybody in any professional walk of life would be well advised to compare nothing to those atrocities.

Gibbs is right, of course, but he overlooks an important fact. Neither side owns the copyright to Hitler comparisons, and in these polarized times, the notion that the other guy is as bad as Hitler may just be one of the last remaining parcels of common ground.

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  • gar

    There was a reason he was called “Meathead”

  • fizeit

    no more mention of Nazis, Hitler and his cohorts, the SS, and other such labels. This should just be out of bounds, a product of ignorance, stupidity, and gross misunderstanding and misuse of history.

  • espo222

    Idiot!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Josh-Feldman/1158574704 Josh Feldman

    “I disagree with you, but I’m pretty sure you’re not Hitler.”

    Words to live by.

  • NORBIT

    Maybe we should hear from Real Jews who is best depicted as Hitler! – and not Hollywood-Pampered Secular “Jews of Convenience” like Reiner & Maher!!

  • writer

    It is odd that Jews in Hollywood never make the connection that Obama’s former pastor is best buds with the virulently anti-semitic Louis Farrakhan.

  • http://none pyrope

    gar said:
    There was a reason he was called “Meathead”

    THIEF!!! You stole my comment. (Congratulations.)

    Seriously, if it weren’t for getting on camera and making idiotic statements, people like Reiner would have no life at all. He’s a has been.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    “Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler.”

    Ummm . . . that’s not hard to imagine at all:

    http://www.google.com/images?num=10&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=bush+hitler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1483&bih=984

  • disenlightened

    Another rich, soft, pasty white liberal who would spit on anyone common enough to step foot in an Applebees. Don’t watch the shows they’re on and they’ll go away.

  • Bill Mahwer

    Archie was right all along.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    If anyone does not believe that liberals are the scum of the Earth, just watch Reiner and Maher.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    NORBIT said:
    Maybe we should hear from Real Jews who is best depicted as Hitler! – and not Hollywood-Pampered Secular “Jews of Convenience” like Reiner & Maher!!

    “Real Jews”, huh?

    I’ll give one thing to you, Norbit…you’re consistant.

    –Cobra

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Ar/100000903987836 Chris Ar

    When was the last time anyone gave a crap what Rob Reiner thought about anything?

  • writer

    Reiner is a Jew and an Obama supporter. Farrakhan hates Jews and is an Obama supporter. The Democrats tent is very big.

  • tatboy

    Godwin’s Law show it’s ugly head again. Tommy… this is one of your best, more balanced, articles I’ve read. Every time I think your liberal leanings are getting the best of you, you put out a gem like this that again show me you are one of the best left leaning writers in the biz. Thank you for your effort and be well.

  • Azarkhan

    Sarah Palin and the Tea Party are Kryptonite to the Left.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuYTrMTFhm8

  • Kitsune

    So, let’s see if i can get this straight.

    The Right = Hitler.
    The Left = Hitler.

    EVERYONE is Hitler now. No wonder everybody hates each other. Each and every last person in the USA is Hitler!

  • murf

    Video : Jesse Jackson teaches us how to spot racism !

    http://twitvid.com/B18WB

  • ganymede

    Ah, that word Hitler…My theory is that the spirit of Hitler never died. It was certainly eradicated in Germany and much of Europe, but there was some transference of fascism to America. We’ve never had a real fascist fling. Some rightwingers think that Obama is Hitler-like, but he’s more of a left liberal than fascist. Interestingly enough, the first people Hitler got rid of were the liberals, socialists and communists and then he went after the Jews. Left type people can’t take seriously the thought that the left is fascistic because it’s a contradiction in terms. However, the RW-ers get very upset when accused of being fascistically inclined because if the shoe fits, etc. When you have corporations trying to take complete control and have a bunch of angry, frustrated, politically naive people trying to get through economically bad times, you have a combustible situation akin to what you had in Weimar Germany in the late 1920′s and early 1930′s. All we’re doing is waiting for the charismatic leader. The industrialists who put Hitler in power aren’t really that much different than the Koch Brothers, Richard MellonScaife, Karl (Jos Goebbels)Rove and Rupert (Lucifer)Murdoch. Unfortunately, they weren’t able to co-opt Hitler, but, rather, it was vice versa. Can this happen here? I doubt it, but we’re in for a rough ride over the next few weeks. The people who were duped into supporting Hitler are similar to the many angry and disturbed people who think Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin to be the true patriots who will guide us to the Promised Land. I don’t think so. The coming election will say a lot about the character of the American people. I’m optimistic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Tyson/1158532714 ButterflyDragon

    Actually, I haven’t seen or heard of any tea party folks comparing to Obama to Hitler. The only thing I’ve seen are the Obama Hitler poster that the Lyndon LaRouche organization has been carrying around the tea party rallies. And the LaRouche followers are definitely not tea party members. They’re Children of the Left.

  • writer

    ganymede, when making Hitler comparisons, most of the anti-semitism comes from the left. Rev. Wright, the Nation of Islam, Al Sharpton, Jesse (hymietown) Jackson. The Democrats are rife with it. Hollywood Jews such as Reiner and Maher are just too stupid to realize it.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    ganymede said:
    The coming election will say a lot about the character of the American people. I’m optimistic.

    I have saved your prediction so we can watch you cry on Nov. 2nd. Would you like some salt and pepper when you have to eat the following words.

    ganymede says:
    September 29, 2010 at 3:59 pm (Quote)
    7 13
    A message to all my rightwing Mediaite ‘comrades’. It’s time to get real. The polls are turning to the Democrats and it’s clear that there’s not going to be a bloodbath on November 2. The Dems may lose some House seats but that’s it. You’re not going to take over anything. The whole subect of extremism is besides the point. I certainly don’t regard myself as an extremist nor would I call the Teapublican people extremists. However, I do notice that much of your catechism is based on myths and misinformation. The country’s in a hole and while the Dems don’t have much in the way of answers, the right has absolutely no program at all except to obstruct and vent anger. This is why the polls are shifting as more uninformed people get more information about what’s really happening. The right hasn’t learned anything from history and it’s not enough to rant on about the deficits and to ignore the plight of the majority of Americans. What do you propose to do? Also, who on earth can support the Teabag candidates outside of their immediate constituancies. And all the bigotry directed at Obama is crazy. Going on about his being a Muslim, socialist, anti-American isn’t getting any more traction because it’s all BS. The reality facing us is that many of the Democrat politicians in DC have been trying to help the country get out of this mess and they’ve made a bit of progress while being constantly blocked by all Republicans and a minority of timid Democrats. We’ve had enough of your negativity, cynicism and ignorance. It’s time for a change and it’s going to happen after Nov 2nd. I hope you rightwing people can handle it.

  • beamangrow

    what is with this idiotic comments,he never called anyone hitler,he just said the teabaggers are always calling people they disagree with hitler.That is true.

  • beamangrow

    i suspect most of you here are teabaggers

  • Jeroboam

    Rob Reiner reminds me of Hitler. See? Any moron can play that game.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Sigh, people have taken all the Hitler out of Hitler. I don’t think people understand how hard Hitler worked to be Hitler. It was no easy task.

    New Rule: You have to kill at least 5 million people to to be called Hitler. Anything less than that and you’re only a Mel Gibson.

  • Kird

    beamangrow said:
    i suspect most of you here are teabaggers

    You got a problem with people who like to put testicles in their mouths? Huh? Do you? Fucking Fascist!

  • Kird

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Sigh, people have taken all the Hitler out of Hitler. I don’t think people understand how hard Hitler worked to be Hitler. It was no easy task.

    New Rule: You have to kill at least 5 million people to to be called Hitler. Anything less than that and you’re only a Mel Gibson.

    Awesome post. Really.

    The only thing I can add is a little Mussolini to serve as an appetizer between the Mel and the Adolf.

  • tigerprez

    Your move, Jon Stewart. I look forward to your stinging repudiation of Reiner and Maher. Anything less than that, and I’ll have to assume that you’re not entirely committed to your “taking it down a notch” rhetoric.

  • the real john t

    tigerprez said:
    Your move, Jon Stewart. I look forward to your stinging repudiation of Reiner and Maher. Anything less than that, and I’ll have to assume that you’re not entirely committed to your “taking it down a notch” rhetoric.

    I’m sure Jon Stewart really gives a shit what you think. Making a comment like that just makes you look like the asshole you are.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    tigerprez said:
    Your move, Jon Stewart.

    WTF is Jon Stewart the policeman of the World now?
    Jon already called out BOTH sides for their use of Hitler in a very funny video segment and now he is having a rally to lead by example.
    That is a lot more than anyone else is doing.

    I don’t think it is Stewart’s job to scold everyone who uses the H word. I was channel surfing yesterday and in the 2 seconds I was on Becks show I heard him use the FACIST word. I laughed and moved on but I am not crazy enough to think Stewart needs to call him out on it.

    You do know he is a comedian, right?

  • Alz

    AnonymousFinch said:
    “Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler.”

    Ummm . . . that’s not hard to imagine at all:

    http://www.google.com/images?num=10&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=bush+hitler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1483&bih=984

    That’s hilarious. This is funny too: “What’s The Difference Game?”
    http://thepeoplescube.com/kg3/what-s-the-difference-game-bush-v-obama-t2016.html

  • Alz

    Liberalism is an odd mental disorder. It’s not that the Right is like Hitler, it’s that the Left is like Hitler and the Left has to say the Right is like Hitler.

    All of the big mass murders of the past 100 years have been from the Left. You don’t see limited government, individual freedom and God fearing right wingers killing millions.

    It’s the people who demand (by force) central control with a hatred for individual liberty and who do not follow God.

    The best explanation I have seen of Modern Liberalism is Evan Sayet’s “How Modern Liberals Think” at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

    Evan used to be a writer for Maher and, as far as I’m concerned, he’s a genius. Find some quiet time and absorb!

  • BDMcG

    Seems to me that Rob Reiner is saying that we should be afraid of Tea Party Candidates and Hate what they stand for.. Well umm ok I’m just going to say it Meathead is Hitler alright then Hitler has been introduced now this is a real political discussion.

    Projection and guilt don’t try to debate the Right without it.

  • Alz

    writer said:
    ganymede, when making Hitler comparisons, most of the anti-semitism comes from the left. Rev. Wright, the Nation of Islam, Al Sharpton, Jesse (hymietown) Jackson. The Democrats are rife with it. Hollywood Jews such as Reiner and Maher are just too stupid to realize it.

    They’re not stupid, they’re anti-semitic too. Actually, they’re Modern Liberals/Progressives. There is a hierarchy in Leftism and the imperative to force everything to be ‘equal” by tearing down success and elevating failure is at the top.

    Israel is successful so they need to tear it down. The Palestinians are failures so they need to be elevated.

    You can see the hierarchy in action by thinking about womens issues and gay issues. You would think that the NOW group would be going berserk over Muslims and how they treat women. No, they are silent.

    Likewise, you would think that the gay groups would be going berserk over how Muslims treat gays. Again, they are silent.

    They are silent because the groups are really controlled by Leftists who use the groups as cover.

    Watch that video I linked to in the previous post, “How Modern Liberals Think”. If you want to crack the code of how lefty’s think, find the time to watch it. (The link is still in the clipboard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Rob Reiner: “All they are selling is fear and anger”.

    I couldn’t agree more.

    “I don’t believe in God because I don’t believe in Mother Goose.”
    –LARENCE DARROW (1857-1938),trial lawyer

  • arnonerik

    What I am enjoying the most this election cycle is the daily bashing of the Tea Party some leftard telling everybody how insignificant, crazy, or dangerous it is. They are so frustrated about this patriotic grassroots movement because they never saw this coming, they don’t know how to fight it and they don’t understand it. They only know it is destroying their dream of a socialist utopia in Amerika.

  • ConLoonPatrol

    Reiner simply correctly compared the present situation to the circumstances that created a Hitler 80 yrs ago.

    I just watched the show an hour ago. Reiner was completely correct in comparing the circumstances between then and now.

    Right wingers are dumb and ignorant., and a nation of dumb and ignorant is dangerous…

  • ConLoonPatrol

    “”that didn’t stop Reiner from speculating that the Tea Party could easily spawn the next Hitler.”"

    This is typical yellow journalism that we see these days. Please learn the difference between “speculating” and “comparing” emmm k?

  • Latin2

    Rob Reiner is full of goo…South Park creators destroy Rob Reiner;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61Ol1ICvqKY

    lol

  • Big Eddie

    Well , wt least Carl Reiner was talented .

  • robertrobert

    It didn’t hold a lot of interest for me. He worked for her brother, so they knew each other. That was
    about it.
    http://mojoblastreview.com/

  • Michele

    Using Hitler raises the stakes when debating an issue.

    While I have thoughts on this article I wonder if my fellow poster’s might engage in a discussion/comment of whethe “All In The Family” would be picked up on network TV? The show dealt with issues that weren’t openly talked about but Carrol O Conner provided humor for viewers that PC police would go after sponsors if aired today. I just do not think with Political Correctness that the show would even garner a meeting with network execs.

    A few thoughts from Ft Leavenworth KS (go Utes and Hokies)

  • ChrisNH

    Happily, nothing that ‘Meathead’ nor any other so-called Lib Media Hack says or does will make a difference on November 2. And THAT is why they’re enraged.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Tommy: “Rob Reiner deployed a guest bogeyman that’s also popular with the Tea Party: Hitler.”

    This is such a bunch of BS. There are two possibilities here:

    1) Tommy just assumes that Tea Party people compare others to Hitler, which makes him a bigoted asshole, or,

    2) Tommy knows this is BS, but throws it out there anyway, which makes him just a regular asshole.

  • Latin2

    AnonymousFinch said:
    “Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler.”

    Ummm . . . that’s not hard to imagine at all:

    http://www.google.com/images?num=10&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=bush+hitler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1483&bih=984

    uhm…I remember this? I guess those on the far Left seem to have selected memory…including Tommy;

    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

  • TonyClifton

    Stifle yourself, Rob.

  • VRWC Destruction Machine

    Reiner is the Hitler. He is responsible for making California a police state when it comes to smoking.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    I made a mistake. I’m sorry Tommy, I should have said Rob Reiner.

  • Latin2

    AnonymousFinch said:
    “Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler.”

    Ummm . . . that’s not hard to imagine at all:

    http://www.google.com/images?num=10&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=bush+hitler&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1483&bih=984

    Here is a list of MANY famous people, singers, writers, politicians, writers, university professors, actors and others who called Bush Hitler…so Tommy, what do you think of that?

    http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html

    It appears that there were FAR more Leftist who were calling our former president Hitler than the other way around…I guess you if had a brain, which obviously Tommy doesn’t, he would have noticed what was going on during those years…unless he had his head up his ass.

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Hey Latin2,
    I noticed Mediaite disabled the bold tag in response to your abuse of it the comment sections. Thanks for ruining it for the rest of us, who liked to use the bold tag occasionally and appropriately, you disgusting troll.

    Now go back to TVNewser and take the filthy maggots who split time between here and there with you.

  • Pablo

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Tommy: “Rob Reiner deployed a guest bogeyman that’s also popular with the Tea Party: Hitler.”

    This is such a bunch of BS. There are two possibilities here:

    1) Tommy just assumes that Tea Party people compare others to Hitler, which makes him a bigoted asshole, or,

    2) Tommy knows this is BS, but throws it out there anyway, which makes him just a regular asshole.

    Exactly right. The fact that Larouchenicks have shown up at Tea Party events with their ObamaHitler signs does not make these extreme left wingers Tea Partiers. Tommy knows this and pretends that he doesn’t.

    JOURNALISM!

  • Dave Richards

    ConLoonPatrol said:
    Reiner simply correctly compared the present situation to the circumstances that created a Hitler 80 yrs ago. I just watched the show an hour ago. Reiner was completely correct in comparing the circumstances between then and now. Right wingers are dumb and ignorant., and a nation of dumb and ignorant is dangerous…

    You cannot be serious!!! Where in the hell did you come up with such garbage?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Dave Richards said:
    You cannot be serious!!! Where in the hell did you come up with such garbage?

    Dave, it’s okay. Have you ever noticed that there’s about a 1:1 ratio of libs / cons in this comment section? But… Look deeper and you’ll see that there’s about a 3:1 ratio of thumbs up / thumbs down favoring conservative comments. And these are only the people who bother to click the clicky thing on a website catering to liberals. Think about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dronetek-Bulk-Vanderhuge/100000918732763 Dronetek

    “While much has (rightly) been made of Tea Partiers fearmongering President Obama as Hitler”

    You left wingers continue to spread this lie. The Obama Hitler posters who brought by La’rouchee DEMOCRATS. Not tea party members. It appears you’re using Joseph Goebbels old tactic of repeating a lie enough that it becomes reality.

    http://www.larouchepac.com/

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Pablo said:
    Tommy knows this and pretends that he doesn’t.

    I’ll agree that Tommy threw the Hitler thing out there with zero critique of Reiner’s credibility.

  • disenlightened

    God has a funny way of dealing with pompous, judgmental, effete liberals like Reiner. Just ask Warren Beatty. Reap what you sow, fools.

  • TfT

    During the Bush years, the media were all aboard denigrating the Office of the Presidency. Erin Burnett called Bush “the monkey in the middle” in reference to a picture of Bush with two other individuals. She particpated in this trash talk. At one rally, there was a poster of Bush=Hitler and a news individual (name escapes me now) said it was a good likeness and Moveon.org streamed a video of Bush=Hitler. And no one in the media had any problems with it. Keith Olbermann called Bush a terrorist on air, and told him to shut the hell up.

    After 8 years of media participation in this viciousness, it became acceptable to the media and quite common place. The media can’t raise up now and claim these types of signs, symbols, or conversation is unacceptable when they participated in it during the Bush years.

    The double standard is quite alarming, for sure. But the media played the game then, and now they are condemning the very game they played.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Hp-Loveshaft/100001634700834 HP Loveshaft

    Something like this would make me stop watching Rob Reiner movies. Except…he hasn’t done anything worth a crap since A Few Good Men, back in 1992. In fact, he’s really only directed 3 really good movies and two decent ones in his entire career.

    And really, were Princess Bride, Spinal Tap, or Stand by Me great because of the directing skills of Reiner, or were they great because of the writing and acting? He’s not Scorcese.

  • Big Eddie

    See any fuhrers here , Meatball ? Look what the crowd does .
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9_bP219ehQ

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Pablo said:
    The fact that Larouchenicks have shown up at Tea Party events with their ObamaHitler signs does not make these extreme left wingers Tea Partiers.

    Also, I’m glad that people are awake to the various forms of right / left. There is a _very_ good video explaining this, it’s about ten minutes, and anyone who’d like to know more, or doesn’t know a lot about who we are might think about viewing it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRQ76FYvw7M

  • Plastik

    the real john t said:
    I’m sure Jon Stewart really gives a shit what you think. Making a comment like that just makes you look like the asshole you are.

    It’s clear that Jon Stewart doesn’t care what anyone thinks. He is just another liberal shill mouthpiece. His cynical banter is about as entertaining as an old cat turd. I find your use of vulgar words telling. It shows how small your vocabulary actually is. Reminds me of another liberal mouthpiece comedian that couldn’t just make people laugh, he had to actually do a routine about all the vulgar words he could muster. Maybe you could make a living spouting your vulgarity to the lemming masses.

  • American Infidel

    Oh yeah, nothing like small government and less spending to make someone think of Hitler. The left is stunningly ignorant of history!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Plastik said:
    I find your use of vulgar words telling. It shows how small your vocabulary actually is.

    “Did you tell her I don’t like motherfuckers who gas their own people?’
    “Did you tell her I don’t like assholes who lie to the world?”
    “Did you tell her I’m going to kick his sorry motherfucking ass all over the Mideast?

    —-George W. Bush

  • Mr.Papshmer

    TfT said:
    During the Bush years, the media were all aboard denigrating the Office of the Presidency.

    Here’s a page you might find interesting. Whenever some progressive douche whines about Obama being attacked, I like to pull this out.

    http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Tarpon/100000127880000 Bill Tarpon

    Yeah funny ehh, and the Democrats were the KKK, segregation, Jim Crow and all the rest of the race atrocity and horrors of the USA were Democrat issues.

    LOL … how funny is that?

    What you mean you thought Abe Lincoln formed the KKK. Now that really is funny.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    American Infidel said:
    Oh yeah, nothing like small government and less spending to make someone think of Hitler.

    Nah, I think Reiner was talking about the fear, hate and intolerance the extreme right is spreading to achieve those goals.

    Very Hitlery.
    Hitleresque?
    It has a certain Hitlerness.

  • Cecelia

    Being called Hitler has become a rite of passage in this country.

    Actually, it’s more than a rite of passage, it’s as inevitable as puberty, getting your first wrinkle, and death.

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Nah, I think Reiner was talking about the fear, hate and intolerance the extreme right is spreading to achieve those goals.

    Very Hitlery.
    Hitleresque?
    It has a certain Hitlerness.

    You mean the FEAR that Obama has been going around telling different groups? The fear mongering Obama and his admin. has been saying about a cable news station or a private citizen named Limbaugh?

    You mean the FEAR of the Tea Party about how ‘extreme’ it is to control spending and over taxing? Since when has financial responsibility ever been extreme, unlike Obama’s own past links.

  • JR

    Reiner is just spouting hyperbolic, ignorant bullshit.

    Spouting Hitler references makes him look like a tool, and yes look at zombie time. Were any of you naysayers on the west coast during the Bush years? I saw tons of Hitler signs, hell even floats at parades. It was all over the media and the net and people called it ‘dissent’. LOL

    However, that’s not what you see at tea party rallies, and he would know that if he ever got out of the basement and went to one. One stray idiot in the corner does not a group attitude make.

    The whole anti-semetic accusation is fun, too. My Jewish husband loves it when he’s called an anti-semite and so do I. Ironic how that doesn’t ever come up at tea party rallies, only in the media by bone headed leftist pundits and fools like Reiner.

    The problem that the far left is experiencing is that their old canards aren’t working to stifle thought and they can’t deal with it. Tea partiers have been called every name in the book and yet they still stand. You can bark perjoratives at us all day and that won’t make them true, that just makes you loud and look foolish.

    And you will still lose in November. We will have enough victories to swing the balance of power and your agenda is toast. Have a nice day.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Cecelia said:
    Being called Hitler has become a rite of passage in this country.

    Actually, it’s more than a rite of passage, it’s as inevitable as puberty, getting your first wrinkle, and death.

    Hmmm…not sure whether to give you thumbs up or down.

    I forget….do I like you?

  • Cecelia

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    forget….do I like you?

    Yes, you do.

    Despite my best efforts.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Latin2, Big_F-ing_Deal is either a young teenager who doesn’t know much, or a puppet.

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    “You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”
    –DICK Cheney

    They do when the man in charge is black and a Dem……..DICK

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Hmmm…not sure whether to give you thumbs up or down.

    No matter by the end of the day those you give thumbs down will always receive large amounts of thumbs up…lol

    X^P

  • Latin2

    Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
    “You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don’t matter”
    –DICK Cheney

    They do when the man in charge is black and a Dem……..DICK

    Not when they are THIS BIG;

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/obama-deficit-20101.jpg

    Look at Obama’s numbers

  • Latin2

    …also what do this out of control deficit have to do with Obama being HALF black? Apparently you only see a black man when you look at Obama, which means you are racist…I see an incompetent socialist who never knew the real world outside of a class room and community organizing meeting. Socialist and Marxist theory might work in theory in a class room, but not in the real world…and what is happening in Europe today is a prime example.

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/obama-deficit-20101.jpg

  • Thelonious Funk

    Stop the presses:

    Crazy liberal calls even crazier political movement something crazy: All craziness ensues.

  • Latin2

    …and that is why governments in Europe are DROPPING or changing their liberal socialist laws and policies.

    From Germany to France to England…meaning Obama and the Left are “progressing” us to the same failures, but in a much faster pace of destruction with out of control spending.

    Merkel contradicted Obama during the Toronto summit, just this year and said governments should cut taxes.

    Merkel also said socialist multiculturalism doesn’t work.

    Sarkosy’s government today just passed to raise their retirement age for government pensions to over 62…and the Liberals have been rioting.

    Cameron’s government has to lay off over 500,000 civil and government workers or cut them back because England’s government is to bloated and top heavy.

    …and because CITIZENS of the U.S. formed a group, called the Tea Party, to control reckless spending they are Nazis?

    lol….typical FEAR MONGERING from the Left…again. It was also the LaRouche people who carried most of those “Obama=Hitler” signs, but Journalists are either lazy or LAIRS.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    The fear mongering Obama and his admin. has been saying about a cable news station or a private citizen named Limbaugh?

    lol…Obama isn’t the one running around calling everyone a communist/socialist/fascist/hitler/nazi/marxist. He’s the one telling everybody that kind of discourse hurts this country and should be rejected.

    Sounds more like Nelson Mandela than Adolph Hitler.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    It was also the LaRouche people who carried most of those “Obama=Hitler” signs

    Hahaha…now it’s “most”. Before it was “all”.

    Get yer facts (lies) straight.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    Sarkosy’s government today just passed to raise their retirement age for government pensions to over 62…and the Liberals have been rioting.

    I hope if this country raises the retirement age we will have the balls to riot.

    Nothing wrong with a little rioting now and then.

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    lol…Obama isn’t the one running around calling everyone a communist/socialist/fascist/hitler/nazi/marxist. He’s the one telling everybody that kind of discourse hurts this country and should be rejected.

    Sounds more like Nelson Mandela than Adolph Hitler.

    I guess you don’t read the posts that I and others posted SHOWING and proving that the Left was far worst.

    Go back and look at the links I posted showing and PROVING that the Left were calling our last president Facist/Nazi/War Monger/monkey/chimp…you people on the Left have very short term memory problems.

    When did Bush call people those names? hmmm since you said that about Obama…and I didn’t even vote for Bush when he was 1st elected.

    Also, I guess you forgot this…the Left MSM was even calling Obama’s win;

    http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSRo4ghTZDrvApKbVg9opRkXztA_Vz9L3LSNQKG2yO6xWeht1c&t=1&usg=__y6K2Z07Xk9kJv3-y5wFMn5NAeQs=

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Hahaha…now it’s “most”. Before it was “all”.

    Get yer facts (lies) straight.

    Show me were I said “all”

    show me….

  • NORBIT

    It is understood that most of the Tea Party members are Christian.

    Note the undercurrent of ANTI-CHRISTIAN Bigotry by those routinely condemning the Tea Party!

    Note that the most vicious attacks on these CHRISTIANS come from Media & Political Personalities who are non-Christians!!!

    Can you feel the Bigotted HATE?

    11-02-10 —– Spread the word! – Know which party more represents your worldview & values (GOP), and which doesn’t (DEMOCRATS)!! Make sure your entire CONGREGATION gets out to vote!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    BTW, Beck has used over 600 Nazi references this year.

    That’s right, somebody counted.

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    And these are your people Latin2. Distinguish the source of the anger in this case versus your example. Which group singles out other groups based on their skin color, religion or sexual identity?

    “Serbian riot police today fought running battles with hundreds of far-right supporters who tried to disrupt a gay pride march in downtown Belgrade, resulting in several casualties.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319310/Riot-Serbia-far-right-thugs-protest-Belgrade-gay-pride-march.html#ixzz13Bj7F8kP

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    BTW, Beck has used over 600 Nazi references this year.

    That’s right, somebody counted.

    That’s an average of 2 a day. lolol

  • http://www.armwood.com armwood

    The comments were on target even though the Hitler analogy is over the top. Despots come to power in bad economic times. The Tea Party candidates and leaders celebrate fear and anger and look for enemies. This is dangerous and a threat to our democracy.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    Show me were I said “all”

    show me….

    I meant you teaturds need to get yer stories straight.

    {{{{Bill Tyson wrote:

    Actually, I haven’t seen or heard of any tea party folks comparing to Obama to Hitler. The only thing I’ve seen are the Obama Hitler poster that the Lyndon LaRouche organization has been carrying around the tea party rallies. And the LaRouche followers are definitely not tea party members. They’re Children of the Left.}}}}

    I want you to bring this up at your next meeting (rally?).

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.
  • Latin2

    Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
    And these are your people Latin2. Distinguish the source of the anger in this case versus your example. Which group singles out other groups based on their skin color, religion or sexual identity?

    lol…you are aware that under Communism, governments of Cuba, China, the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe ALL put gays in prison and Homosexualty was a crime and considered CAPITALISTIC.

    Also you forgot to add that many of the attacks on gays around the world IS DONE BY MUSLIMS, even in Europe;

    http://myblog-angeln.blogspot.com/2010/08/muslims-protest-to-kuffas-of-gay-pride.html

    http://theislamicstandard.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/derby-gay-pride-hit-by-muslim-protest/

  • NORBIT

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    lol…Obama isn’t the one running around calling everyone a communist/socialist/fascist/hitler/nazi/marxist. He’s the one telling everybody that kind of discourse hurts this country and should be rejected. Sounds more like Nelson Mandela than Adolph Hitler.

    You mean like the (white) people clinging to their guns & bibles in Pa.? – or is it the little latino boy being stopped for his papers on the way to the Az. ice cream shop – or (white) cops acting “stupidly” in Ma.?

    Ah, Obama – One America! – as long as it’s HIS Marxist Government that CONTROLS it!

    This guy is nothing more than a race-baiting, community agitating Carnival Barker – who made a failed attempt at a Chavez-like coup over our government (remember the Czars, and Government takeover efforts through legislation, regulation, and selective law-enforcement?) – but FAILED!

    11-02-10 —– Get (5) of your neighbors to the polls with you!!!

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    I meant you teaturds need to get yer stories straight.

    {{{{Bill Tyson wrote:

    Actually, I haven’t seen or heard of any tea party folks comparing to Obama to Hitler. The only thing I’ve seen are the Obama Hitler poster that the Lyndon LaRouche organization has been carrying around the tea party rallies. And the LaRouche followers are definitely not tea party members. They’re Children of the Left.}}}}

    I want you to bring this up at your next meeting (rally?).

    lol…that just shows you ignorance. I am not in the Tea Party, AND your post had a quote by ME…so prove it.

  • Gracchus

    Hate to ruin the left-wing “narrative” but a) the Nazis ran in multiple elections prior to consolidating power, b) the highest Nazi election return was actually 38% in 1932, and while it may not have been a majority, it WAS a plurality in a parlimentary system! But hey, what’s a few mistaken ‘facts’ when your narrative speaks to the greater underlying truth of the similarities between a basically well-off (by any historic measure) modern American constituency focused on Constitutional principles and restraining government, and who polls show is overwhelmingly friendly toward Israel, with a depression battered German nation with no democratic tradition and steeped in historic anti-Semitism. Are the lefties the smart ones, or what?

  • Patrick Henry

    ganymede said:
    The coming election will say a lot about the character of the American people. I’m optimistic.

    Very true. I am optimistic as well, but perhaps for different reasons.

  • Latin2
  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Gracchus said:
    a depression battered German nation with no democratic tradition and steeped in historic anti-Semitism

    And a predominantly Christian population who never demonstrated that Christianity was a religion of peace.

  • Patrick Henry

    the real john t said:
    I’m sure Jon Stewart really gives a shit what you think. Making a comment like that just makes you look like the asshole you are.

    Taking everything so literally makes you look like a ….,

  • American Infidel

    Norbit

    don’t forget Obama’s “Mandela” like comment: ” I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.“

  • NORBIT

    I worked with a refugee who experienced, as a child, the horror of Cossack raids – He can’t stomach these sniveling, mommy-boy, self-aggrandizing, Hollywood JINOs!!!!

  • Latin2

    Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
    And a predominantly Christian population who never demonstrated that Christianity was a religion of peace.

    …and that is why many European Muslims joined the Nazis in droves…now that was a type of faux Christianity a large segment of the Muslim population of Europe, and the Middle East could get along with.

    During that time Bosnian and Albanian Muslims joined the Nazi ranks in droves…and the Mufti of Palestine became an ally of Hitler, plus many Middle Eastern countries.

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Funny isn’t how liberals associate Hitler with war mongering and torture, while conservatives associate it with entitlement programs (I was going to say deficits but that is only a recent development).

  • Patrick Henry

    ConLoonPatrol said:
    Right wingers are dumb and ignorant., and a nation of dumb and ignorant is dangerous…

    Honestly. I see you as one of the most brainwashed, ignorant posters on this site. Again, what is hilarious is that you think you are such an intellectual. Keep us laughing, keep posting.

  • Latin2

    Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
    Funny isn’t how liberals associate Hitler with war mongering and torture, while conservatives associate it with entitlement programs (I was going to say deficits but that is only a recent development).

    I also associate Hitler with brownshirts who try to control all the media, and if one media outlet is not under their control they try to shut it down. Nazis who brain wash children into singing songs about their leader in schools, who align themselves with Muslim terrorist factions who want to destroy Israel and kill Jews….oh wait that is just like Liberals today.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
    Funny isn’t how liberals associate Hitler with war mongering and torture, while conservatives associate it with entitlement programs (I was going to say deficits but that is only a recent development).

    Excellent point.

    We associate it with “Shock and Awe” (Blitzkreig)

    They associate it with prostate exams.

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    They associate it with prostate exams.

    Worse than that. Prostate exams for the poor.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    I also associate Hitler with brownshirts who try to control all the media, and if one media outlet is not under their control they try to shut it down. Nazis who brain wash children into singing songs about their leader in schools, who align themselves with Muslim terrorist factions who want to destroy Israel and kill Jews….oh wait that is just like Liberals today.

    You are the one who makes Karl’s satirical posts completely relevant.

    You and Norbit.

  • holygoat

    “Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler.”

    We don’t have to imagine it, Bob, because it happened. Liberals of all stripes spent the better part of George W. Bush’s eight year term comparing him to Hitler. For those who forgot: http://semiskimmed.net/bushhitler.html

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You are the one who makes Karl’s satirical posts completely relevant.

    You and Norbit.

    Actually my point shows that Progressives and Hitler had many things in common…including ‘war mongering’ and anti-Jewish feelings.

  • Latin2

    Also Liberals lied about the amount of persons killed in Iraq…and that was from WikiLeaks themselves;

    http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/10/wikileaks-documents-show-anti-american-left-lied-about-iraq-war-deaths/

  • Latin2

    “These documents also suggest that more Iraqis died during the Clinton years than during the Bush years. In 1996 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright told reporters at 60 Minutes that Bill Clinton’s policy that resulted in 500,000 dead Iraqi children was worth it.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    The reality is the tea party is one giant temper tantrum thrown by insolent children. Their guy didn’t win the 2008 election so now they are going to show everyone and vote for crazy people. See that will show you, they are not unlike little kids being sent to their room and they child saying “see I am going to show them I am not going to eat my dinner, then they will feel really bad for me”. I don’t really think Hitler can rise from a bunch of crying children.

  • NORBIT

    American Infidel said:
    Norbit don’t forget Obama’s “Mandela” like comment: ” I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.“

    10 Days AF! – Get your whole hood to the polls!

    The political warriors against freedom (i.e. DEMOCRATS) will be pulling out all the race-baiting stops trying to Smear Tea-Partyer’s, Republicans, Whites and Christians!

  • NORBIT

    Jonathan Scott said:
    The reality is the tea party is one giant temper tantrum thrown by insolent children. Their guy didn’t win the 2008 election so now they are going to show everyone and vote for crazy people. See that will show you, they are not unlike little kids being sent to their room and they child saying “see I am going to show them I am not going to eat my dinner, then they will feel really bad for me”. I don’t really think Hitler can rise from a bunch of crying children.

    I’m confident that’s YOUR reality!

    If you think that’s bad, be sure to let us know how YOUR reality looks on 11-03-10!!!!
    lol!

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Anyone know why the Christine O’Donnell thread is closed? I wanted to talk about the AP article were she admits using campaign money for rent.

  • NORBIT

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    You are the one who makes Karl’s satirical posts completely relevant. You and Norbit.

    Sure about that “satire”, Deal; Many-A-Truth is said in ‘jest!!!!

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    I remember when we used to have these Nazi threads about Glenn Beck but it has become so commonplace for him that it doesn’t even register anymore. No one pays attention.

    He has literally become The Boy Who Cries Nazi.

  • Patrick Henry

    Jonathan Scott said:
    The reality is the tea party is one giant temper tantrum thrown by insolent children.

    Grow up and learn what is really going on in the world around you, little boy.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    NORBIT said:
    Get your whole hood to the polls!

    OMG you guys are going to wear hoods to the polls? That brings back memories.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Wow…Juan really showed his true stripes last night. A truly disgusting display. He kept shouting “They!”, “They!”, “They!” talking about the Left instead of NPR, which actually fired him. Soooo revealing.
    And his anti-Muslim tirade was dispicable.{{MUSLIMS DONT WANT TO HAVE A DIALOGUE. IS THAT IN THEIR RELIGION? I THINK THATS IN THEIR RELIGION!!}} LOLOL

    We always knew Juan was a Foxbagger at heart and last night he proved it.

    By the way Juan, you misquoted the Muslim bomber. It wasn’t “the first drop of blood” that he said, it was “Consider me only a first droplet of the flood that will follow me.”. A small difference to be sure, unless you’re a journalist or something. Then you might want to get it right. It’s right there in the court transcripts. All in English too, so nothing was lost in translation. That is why you don’t belong at NPR. You will fit in well at Fox news though!! You always have. They love to scream “BLOOD!” too. Scary!

    It just goes to show…”When you sleep with the fishes, you’re gonna get fleas”.

    wait wat?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    Patrick Henry said:
    Grow up and learn what is really going on in the world around you, little boy.

    Little boy huh, I am a veteran and defended my country so idiots like yourself can spew nonsense, You’re Welcome.

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    OMG you guys are going to wear hoods to the polls? That brings back memories.

    uh…”bring back memories”?

    You are aware at the height of the KKK they were a DEMOCRATIC association with direct links to Democrats, and a terrorist wing of the early Democratic Party.

  • Tommy Christopher

    Latin2 said:
    uhm…I remember this? I guess those on the far Left seem to have selected memory…including Tommy;

    http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=612

    Wrong. If you had clicked the article I wrote about Gibbs (and linked to TWICE), here’s what you would have found:

    http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/white-house-declares-war-on-hitler-references/

    My first reaction to the line that’s getting all the attention, “People — imagine five years ago somebody comparing health care reform to 9/11. Imagine just a few years ago had somebody walked around with images of Hitler,” was to suppress a chuckle. As Hot Air’s Allahpundit and The Weekly Standard’s Mary Katherine Ham point out, people walking around with images of Hitler during the Bush years isn’t like conjuring a jet-propelled, laser-wielding unicorn. Furthermore, you only have to go back a few weeks to find a Democratic member of Congress invoking both 9/11 and the Holocaust.

    Furthermore, I make the point more generally in several spots, including my summation.

    Try putting in at least a little bit of effort before making assumptions, like actually reading the thing you’re criticizing.

  • Latin2

    Here a little something you make your day Big_F-ing_Deal and other Leftists;

    Washington Post’s Liberal writer Dana Milbank’s book; “Tears of a Clown: Glenn Beck and the Tea Bagging of America” has sold a measly 1,600 copies since it was released Oct. 5…LOL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/22/writer-dana-milbank%E2%80%99s-critical-book-on-glenn-beck-sees-slow-sales/#ixzz13C4PXOOE

    Better go get your copy…I’m sure you will find PLENTY…LOL

  • American Infidel

    Jonathan Scott said:
    The reality is the tea party is one giant temper tantrum thrown by insolent children. Their guy didn’t win the 2008 election so now they are going to show everyone and vote for crazy people. See that will show you, they are not unlike little kids being sent to their room and they child saying “see I am going to show them I am not going to eat my dinner, then they will feel really bad for me”. I don’t really think Hitler can rise from a bunch of crying children.

    It’s odd that when democrats formed Moveon because “their guy didn’t win” in 2000 or 2004 far left wing fanatical kooks didn’t call them “insolent children.” The intellectual vacancy and hypocrisy on the left knows no bounds.

  • Latin2

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Wrong. If you had clicked the article I wrote about Gibbs (and linked to TWICE), here’s what you would have found:

    http://www.mediaite.com/columnists/white-house-declares-war-on-hitler-references/

    Furthermore, I make the point more generally in several spots, including my summation.

    Try putting in at least a little bit of effort before making assumptions, like actually reading the thing you’re criticizing.

    lol…get to too riled Tommy…remember what happens.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    Here a little something you make your day Big_F-ing_Deal and other Leftists;

    Washington Post’s Liberal writer Dana Milbank’s book; “Tears of a Clown: Glenn Beck and the Tea Bagging of America” has sold a measly 1,600 copies since it was released Oct. 5…LOL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/10/22/writer-dana-milbank%E2%80%99s-critical-book-on-glenn-beck-sees-slow-sales/#ixzz13C4PXOOE

    Better go get your copy…I’m sure you will find PLENTY…LOL

    Yeah, we really don’t need a book to tell us Beck is a clown.

    That goes without saying.

    I guess we just don’t invest as much of our pocket money on hate as you Righty’s do.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    lol…get to too riled Tommy…remember what happens.

    THAT”S AN INAPPROPRIATE HEART ATTACK JOKE!!!

  • NORBIT

    Latin2 said:
    uh…”bring back memories”? You are aware at the height of the KKK they were a DEMOCRATIC association with direct links to Democrats, and a terrorist wing of the early Democratic Party.

    From a Loooooong list of Democrat Hypocrisy, allow me to remind you of:

    The late Senator Robert Byrd (D)

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Tommy Christopher said:
    Try putting in at least a little bit of effort before making assumptions, like actually reading the thing you’re criticizing.

    You would be doing the board a big favor if you were to ban her. Then you could bring back the bold tags.

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Yeah, we really don’t need a book to tell us Beck is a clown.

    That goes without saying.

    I guess we just don’t invest as much of our pocket money on hate as you Righty’s do.

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Yeah, we really don’t need a book to tell us Beck is a clown.

    That goes without saying.

    I guess we just don’t invest as much of our pocket money on hate as you Righty’s do.

    …or maybe we Conservatives, who make up the majority of the population, read more than just Media Matter’s email press releases….lol

  • Latin2

    NORBIT said:
    From a Loooooong list of Democrat Hypocrisy, allow me to remind you of:

    The late Senator Robert Byrd (D)

    …and AL GORE SR. who fought tooth and nail against the Civil Rights Act.

  • Cancon2

    Nothing draws comments like a Hitler post. Wow, this is news! This is shaping the discussion! This, my friends, is Bullshit of the highest order. I should know as I am a Terrafucundian. Wait, I think Rob just just pulled up, I can usually sniff him out a mile away.

  • Latin2

    Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings. said:
    You would be doing the board a big favor if you were to ban her. Then you could bring back the bold tags.

    oh I see…Liberals hate it when Latinas and African-Americans stray off the hacienda and plantation. They love their minorities compliant and towing the Leftist line or they are banned or fired.

  • Fox News: We gladly gin up anger and fear for ratings.

    Latin2 said:
    oh I see…Liberals hate it when Latinas and African-Americans stray off the hacienda and plantation. They love their minorities compliant and towing the Leftist line or they are banned or fired.

    No, we hate trolls who hijack threads and abuse the bold tag.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    oh I see…Liberals hate it when Latinas and African-Americans stray off the hacienda and plantation. They love their minorities compliant and towing the Leftist line or they are banned or fired.

    Nah, it ain’t that. You shouldn’t be using someone’s recent brush with death as fodder for a stupid internet argument on Nazi’s.

    Now apologize…

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    “Man up”

  • notsofast

    LOL!

    Yeah, Rob–, they are so much like Hitler: have they murdered 6 million Jews? Have they hung up people with piano wire? How many people have they executed so far? How many people have been gassed? How many countries have they invaded? How many store-fronts have been destroyed? How many people have been arrested?

    “While much has (rightly) been made of Tea Partiers fearmongering President Obama as Hitler”

    Really ? The Tea party has compared Barry to Hitler?

    Any thing like this?

    http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025964.php

    Typical libspeak: “we are smarter than you and we know what is best for you.” Spoken like a true dictator!

    LMAO!

  • Latin2

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    Nah, it ain’t that. You shouldn’t be using someone’s recent brush with death as fodder for a stupid internet argument on Nazi’s.

    Now apologize…

    huh? what are you talking about? “assumptions”? When you assume something you make an ass out of you and me…why should I apologize for that? Who had a heart attack?

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Latin2 said:
    huh? what are you talking about? “assumptions”? When you assume something you make an ass out of you and me…why should I apologize for that? Who had a heart attack?

    tsk tsk tsk

  • Latin2

    So which one of you two had a heart attack?

  • Patrick Henry

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Little boy huh, I am a veteran and defended my country so idiots like yourself can spew nonsense, You’re Welcome.

    Thanks for your service, truly. That makes it even sadder that you see the Tea Party in the way you do.

  • NORBIT

    Latin2 said:
    oh I see…Liberals hate it when Latinas and African-Americans stray off the hacienda and plantation. They love their minorities compliant and towing the Leftist line or they are banned or fired.

    Latin2,
    Well said, poignant and succinct!
    I’ve always said, the most viscious racism is that against conservative blacks and hispanics by the progressive left!

    btw, I saved those billboard references for future use!!!

  • Latin2

    NORBIT said:
    Latin2,
    Well said, poignant and succinct!
    I’ve always said, the most viscious racism is that against conservative blacks and hispanics by the progressive left!

    btw, I saved those billboard references for future use!!!

    There are quite a few of us, many of us are not open about it, but the majority of Hispanics are social and financial Conservatives. While early Liberal policies were good, now many Liberal policies have destroyed the minority communities.

  • Latin2

    c ya later norbit gotta go.

  • Patrick Henry

    Jonathan Scott said:
    The reality is the tea party is one giant temper tantrum thrown by insolent children. Their guy didn’t win the 2008 election so now they are going to show everyone and vote for crazy people. See that will show you, they are not unlike little kids being sent to their room and they child saying “see I am going to show them I am not going to eat my dinner, then they will feel really bad for me”. I don’t really think Hitler can rise from a bunch of crying children.

    Jonathan, the fact that you are a veteran really gets to me. What has the Tea Party done that was unlawful, unpatriotic, or childish? Tea Partiers can barely wait for election day to vote and voice their opinion. Then we will see where the chips fall and start work toward 2012. Is that childish to you? I thought we had the freedom to disagree with our leaders, a right you fought for. Are you saying we should should follow along and act as if we think everything is OK, even if we don’t believe it is? That is scary and I am surprised a veteran of our military thinks that way.

  • Alz

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Also, I’m glad that people are awake to the various forms of right / left. There is a _very_ good video explaining this, it’s about ten minutes, and anyone who’d like to know more, or doesn’t know a lot about who we are might think about viewing it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRQ76FYvw7M

    Thank you. That is a very good video.

    One thing that stands out for me is Fascism. I’m tired of the Liberals saying that Fascism is on the Right. Fascism is on the Left. The Left (Progressives) were ENAMORED with Fascism in the 1930′s.

    It wasn’t until Hitler’s atrocities came out did the left pawned off Fascism to the Right. The media and the school systems just started repeating the lie.

    That is just one thing for me, but the video should be widely distributed.

  • Alz

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Little boy huh, I am a veteran and defended my country so idiots like yourself can spew nonsense, You’re Welcome.

    Thank you for your service. Many millions are grateful. But it doesn’t give you a pass in the reason category. The Tea Party is not a “temper tantrum.”

  • Powerslave

    I remember the good old days when we called Bush a Nazi. We went around telling everyone he was the worst president ever. Bush was the disease and death was the cure.

    I cry foul now that the same tactics are used on Obama.

  • notsofast

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Little boy huh, I am a veteran and defended my country so idiots like yourself can spew nonsense, You’re Welcome.

    Great! I’m sure the real soldiers appreciated your cleaning the toilets with your tongue, you dbag.

    MG, another FKing lib “internet soldier” . I love it!

    Listen, dullard, serving your country doesn’t make you any smarter or provide you with any greater insight into things than any other person, so just STFU about your alleged service. Real service people do not talk about such matters.

  • The Real Royal King

    Thank you for your serrvice, Jonathan.

    Your post in redundant, Nutso. Everyone is already aware of the contempt with which the rightists view the men and women who actually serve our nation. My goodness, the Republicans constantly enshrine it in legislation which shortchanges our troops and our veterans, and each day you insult our troops and our veterans by your unabashed cowardice in dealing with terrorism in the world. I find it so odd how you all think you are so much better than those who have put on uniforms.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    gordonbloyershow said:
    I have saved your prediction

    Wow this is a sad statement.You need a life.I hope that after the election who ever gets in does a good job for all not just a few.We are all Americans.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    The Real Royal King says:
    October 23, 2010 at 11:46 am The Real Royal King(Quote)

    God, you are so so irrelevant.

    Take a couple of “drop dead” pills, child!

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    I find it so odd how you all think you are so much better than those who have put on uniforms.

    The only uniforms you libs put on is the one worn at McDonald’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    each day you insult our troops and our veterans by your unabashed cowardice in dealing with terrorism in the world

    LMAO!

    keep the comedy and jokes flowing King!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    notsofast said:
    Great! I’m sure the real soldiers appreciated your cleaning the toilets with your tongue, you dbag.

    MG, another FKing lib “internet soldier” . I love it!

    Listen, dullard, serving your country doesn’t make you any smarter or provide you with any greater insight into things than any other person, so just STFU about your alleged service. Real service people do not talk about such matters.

    Hey what a surprise here is another chickenhawk Republican who probably never had the guts to serve denigrating a soldier that had the guts to do so. One of the things I have found after I left the army and some of the other guys I served with have found that Republians are really great at saying they “support the troops” but proceed to trash us when we don’t agree with your gutter politics.

    I never said I am smarter or better than anyone for serving my country, but I had the guts to enlist after 9/11 did you?

  • notsofast

    Jonathan Scott said:
    I never said I am smarter or better than anyone for serving my country, but I had the guts to enlist after 9/11 did you?

    Which side did you enlist one, you fking dbag?

  • writer

    Notice how our far lefties never mention a word about the anit-semitism of Rev. Wright, or Farrakhan, or Sharpton, or Jesse? Not one word. Not a peep. Never heard of ‘em.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    LOL! Yeah, Rob–, they are so much like Hitler: have they murdered 6 million Jews? Have they hung up people with piano wire? How many people have they executed so far? How many people have been gassed? How many countries have they invaded? How many store-fronts have been destroyed? How many people have been arrested? “While much has (rightly) been made of Tea Partiers fearmongering President Obama as Hitler” Really ? The Tea party has compared Barry to Hitler? Any thing like this? http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816 http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025964.php Typical libspeak: “we are smarter than you and we know what is best for you.” Spoken like a true dictator! LMAO!

    You have to remember that the most extreme abuses of the Nazis came after they solidified power. If people see parallels between the rise of the Nazis and the emergence of the Tea Parties, well they are just better students of history than you.

    Frankly, I don’t think the parallels are that great. The intolerance, the enshrinement of ignorance, to be sure, but the Tea Parties have no leader, and they have no group ethic. At present, they are merelyincoherent, individually self-absorbed fringists.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    The Real Royal King said:
    Thank you for your serrvice, Jonathan.

    Your post in redundant, Nutso. Everyone is already aware of the contempt with which the rightists view the men and women who actually serve our nation. My goodness, the Republicans constantly enshrine it in legislation which shortchanges our troops and our veterans, and each day you insult our troops and our veterans by your unabashed cowardice in dealing with terrorism in the world. I find it so odd how you all think you are so much better than those who have put on uniforms.

    Thank you King, yes the one thing I have learned since leaving the Army is that most Republicans don’t support the troops at all, they shit all over us if we dare not tow the party line. Think about what they did to Pat Tillman, they shot him dead.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    notsofast said:
    Which side did you enlist one, you fking dbag?

    Your non-answer to my question is duly noted.

  • notsofast

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Think about what they did to Pat Tillman, they shot him dead.

    Yes, Republicans killed him.

    man you are a walking and breathing POS.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    The only uniforms you libs put on is the one worn at McDonald’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    All the Marys in Heaven, get a wheelchair. Nutso’s lameness is much advanced. Please, give us one, just one original, creative, humorous retort. Just one.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    The Real Royal King says:
    October 23, 2010 at 11:53 am The Real Royal King(Quote)

    You still have zero, nada, zilch! That’s my boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Scott/654124552 Jonathan Scott

    notsofast said:
    Which side did you enlist one, you fking dbag?

    Normally I would be offended by this remark but it is coming from someone who is obviously a coward and never had the guts to put on the uniform, I can say safely that my fellow soldiers hate people like you.

  • notsofast

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Normally I would be offended by this remark

    I find YOU offensive.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    Yes, Republicans killed him. man you are a walking and breathing POS.

    Right, they merely dishonored his name and his service by creating a lie and exploiting him. His family thinks very highly of the Republicans for how they treated him, as you can imagine. But, it is the typical Republican treatment of our troops. Do something for us, you’re a hero. Merely do your duty, you’re a loser. A real disgrace. It ought to shame every Republican not infected with Cheneyitis.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    I find YOU offensive.

    Snappy. Like an opened bag of potato chips left on the beach overnight.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    The Real Royal King says:
    October 23, 2010 at 11:55 am The Real Royal King(Quote)

    See my prior comment!

  • writer

    King, you’re an idiot. Tea partiers want smaller government. Hitler wanted the government to have all the power. And BTW, King. You were railing against the Japanese internment during WWII as being racist, yet you named your cat after the man who put the Japanese in the camps. You are obviously a racist.

  • notsofast

    notsofast said:
    Snappy. Like an opened bag of potato chips left on the beach overnight.

    You still have zero, nada, zilch! That’s my boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • notsofast

    King, are you going to charge our soldier boy with torturing people and killing children like you said the troops did?

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Patrick Henry said:
    Grow up and learn what is really going on in the world around you, little boy.

    Anyone can say that about you.You come on here like you’ve lived more than the rest.Have a clue that people who do comment on here do know whats going on or they wouldn’t feel the need to say anything. You are another bitter old man who likes to call names.Your just a little man.

  • Alz

    The Real Royal King said:
    You have to remember that the most extreme abuses of the Nazis came after they solidified power. If people see parallels between the rise of the Nazis and the emergence of the Tea Parties, well they are just better students of history than you.

    Frankly, I don’t think the parallels are that great. The intolerance, the enshrinement of ignorance, to be sure, but the Tea Parties have no leader, and they have no group ethic. At present, they are merelyincoherent, individually self-absorbed fringists.

    You goof, the Nazi’s were LEFTISTS! The Right is about limited government and individual freedom. The Tea Party is Right, Nazi’s were Fascists – which are left. Duh!

  • Seeing November From My Window

    This is the part of the show that TC decided to omit, not surprisingly:

    George Clooney Exposes Bill Maher’s Ignorant Hatred For Conservatives

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/10/23/george-clooney-exposes-bill-maher%E2%80%99s-ignorant-hatred-conservatives#ixzz13CL96GQW

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    King, are you going to charge our soldier boy with torturing people and killing children like you said the troops did?

    See, your blanket condemnation of and contempt for our troops continues. From you and Kumquat, two people who have run as far and as fast from recruiting offices as possible, I just don’t understand this. For your information: Yes, we have had some troops involved in atrocities, throughout our history, even in the Civil War. But the numbers are so few, and, we deal with the problem. Virtually all our troops are good and decent people who simply wanted to do their duty to their country and return to their homes and families. I’m not going to stand for you continuing to belittle them and their service, Nusto. You either, Kumquat.

  • writer

    I was in the Air Force, King. So no, I no longer feel the need to go to a recruiting office. But I notice you’re still not addressing the fact that you named your cat after the man who committed the racist act of locking up Japanese Americans during WWII.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    notsofast said:
    so just STFU about your alleged service. Real service people do not talk about such matters.

    Your truely UNAMERICAN.Bitter old man.

  • Patrick Henry

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    Anyone can say that about you.You come on here like you’ve lived more than the rest.Have a clue that people who do comment on here do know whats going on or they wouldn’t feel the need to say anything. You are another bitter old man who likes to call names.Your just a little man.

    You come on here like an idiot. Bite me, Rock, Rox, Iris, or whoever you are today. Get back on your corner and do your service for the world.

  • notsofast

    Seeing November From My Window said:
    This is the part of the show that TC decided to omit, not surprisingly:

    George Clooney Exposes Bill Maher’s Ignorant Hatred For Conservatives

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/10/23/george-clooney-exposes-bill-maher%E2%80%99s-ignorant-hatred-conservatives#ixzz13CL96GQW

    Thanks! I was going to post that! Thanks for sharing!

  • notsofast

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    Your truely UNAMERICAN.Bitter old man.

    LMAO!

    You have zero, nada, zilch; the King must be mentoring you!

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    ’m not going to stand for you continuing to belittle them and their service, Nusto. You either, Kumquat.

    LMAO

    Tsk, tsk, tsk!

    Another “internet soldier.” I do love it so!

  • The Real Royal King

    Off to one of the local Fall festivals, the Hogeye Festival in one of Texas’ great sausage making towns, Elgin (with a hard “g”). Great fun and a great opportunity to avoid Amerika’s foremost bleaters, kvetchers, moaners and whiners, Nutso and Kumquat. Hope everyone has as great a Saturday afternoon as I am about to!

  • writer

    The King’s usual method of addressing questions. Leave the site.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    The Real Royal King says:
    October 23, 2010 at 12:23 pm The Real Royal King(Quote)

    Try not to end up in the sausage making machine. Your brain to not survive the last time.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Normally I would be offended by this remark but it is coming from someone who is obviously a coward and never had the guts to put on the uniform, I can say safely that my fellow soldiers hate people like you.

    Jonathan.This bitter old man is not worth your time.

  • Patrick Henry

    Jonathan Scott said:
    Normally I would be offended by this remark but it is coming from someone who is obviously a coward and never had the guts to put on the uniform, I can say safely that my fellow soldiers hate people like you.

    So, Jonathan, on your FB page you say you wish that Obama had been closer to Bill Ayers. If true, I find it sad that our military accepted someone like you, if they did. Oh and good luck on that record, I’m sure it will win album of the year.

  • writer

    rox, you should be aware that the King claims he was in Navy JAG during Vietnam, which means he has to be pushing seventy. So when you’re calling someone old, he’s probably the oldest poster on the site.

  • notsofast

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    Jonathan.This bitter old man is not worth your time.

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, rox, you are a bitter old hag who is also a blooter!

  • notsofast

    Patrick Henry said:
    So, Jonathan, on your FB page you say you wish that Obama had been closer to Bill Ayers.

    Ahhhhhhhhhh, so our soldierboy is a Socialist defending which country?

    I knew he was a coward.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    All of the big mass murders of the past 100 years have been from the Left. You don’t see limited government, individual freedom and God fearing right wingers killing m

    well there was that god fearing president that started the two wars we are in now, years later. You know the wars I mean right. The one that the NY times square bomber mentioned as occupation.

    It’s not so much political ideology as it is the black soul of those who are corrupt enough to start wars for money and power.

  • Patrick Henry

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    Your just a little man.

    I suppose you meant ‘You’re” not “Your” since I don’t have any little men. No wonder you’re on the corner. An education would have been worth your while.

  • notsofast

    CosmosDan said:
    You know the wars I mean right.

    You mean the one in which more Americans have died in the 20 months that BHO has been president than died in 7 years under Bush? That one?

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Patrick Henry said:
    You come on here like an idiot. Bite me, Rock, Rox, Iris, or whoever you are today. Get back on your corner and do your service for the world.

    Your so funny bitter old man.You have many names you come here under and we all know it.Your little name calling does’t bother me at all.I’ve been around bitter people before.HAHHA and OMG your bite me was sooo funny.

  • notsofast

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    bitter old man.

    The oldest coots in Congress are Dems!

    hahahahaha

  • Patrick Henry

    ROCKSTEADY said:
    Your so funny bitter old man.You have many names you come here under and we all know it.Your little name calling does’t bother me at all.I’ve been around bitter people before.HAHHA and OMG your bite me was sooo funny.

    Not that you are worth the time, but what other names do I come here under? I named yours, let’s see what you’ve got.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Patrick Henry said:
    I suppose you meant ‘You’re” not “Your” since I don’t have any little men. No wonder you’re on the corner. An education would have been worth your while.

    God your sooo funny Old Man ,All this corner talk from you hmm you must be an expert.

  • CosmosDan

    JR said:
    Reiner is just spouting hyperbolic, ignorant bullshit.

    I’m so glad to hear it called what it is. How refreshing. Please be sure to post this again the next time Beck makes a Nazi reference or holds up a swastika and hammer and sickle. I’m just as sick of that hyperbolic ignorant bullshit as you are. I only wish all you patriots had been posting this same truth about Glenn in the past 2 years. Better late than never huh?

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Patrick Henry said:
    Not that you are worth the time, but what other names do I come here under? I named yours, let’s see what you’ve got.

    You have no clue who i am.You call me by some other persons name all the time.As i stated to your other poster name,gordon,I don’t need many to make my opinion known.But hey i could be wronge to me your all bitter old men ,who have nothing better to do but get off on how many thumbs they have showing.

  • shellys_ghost

    oooOOOOOooooooOOOOoooooOOoooHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAoooooOOoooOooo

  • writer

    Since Reiner is Jewish, I think it’s particularly ironic that he never addresses all the anti-semitism on the left.

  • writer

    Help!! Ghostbusters!!

  • CosmosDan

    Big_F-ing_Deal said:
    BTW, Beck has used over 600 Nazi references this year.

    That’s right, somebody counted.

    How about that. Somehow all the folks dumping on Reiner in this thread seemed to miss that. I’ll be very glad to tell any liberal using a Hitler or Nazi reference that it’s ridiculous hyperbolic unhelpful bullshit. I ask all you conservatives ranting away here to do the same to your fellow conservatives, starting with the leader in Nazi references by a fucking mile, GB.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Since Reiner is Jewish, I think it’s particularly ironic that he never addresses all the anti-semitism on the left.

    was the subject of the discussion antisemitism?

    I think sometimes we need to be able to separate topics and issues. I didn’t see the show, but I often see a false conflation of issues. If the topic of discussion was never antisemitism , why would you expect him to address it at all?

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    How about that. Somehow all the folks dumping on Reiner in this thread seemed to miss that. I’ll be very glad to tell any liberal using a Hitler or Nazi reference that it’s ridiculous hyperbolic unhelpful bullshit. I ask all you conservatives ranting away here to do the same to your fellow conservatives, starting with the leader in Nazi references by a fucking mile, GB.

    There is a reason why Beck references the Nazi’s. One of the places Hitler got his ideas about eugenics was from the American left (the Progressives.) Read up on Amercian Progressives. Read up on Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood. She was a Eugenicist and a liberal. For those that don’t know our liberals were very keen on filtering the DNA of undesirables.

    Planned Parenthood was founded to help rid the US of undesirable people. Yes, this is the history of our liberals. So the Nazi references are valid here.

  • FoxSpells666

    The left seem to be nothing by parasites. They had no plan last year other than to diss Sarah Palin and not much more. They made her into the star she became as much as anyone. Hollywood types ought to know bad press is much better than no press. Now it’s the Tea Party getting dissed everywhere. Don’t they see that without Palin and the Tea Party to diss, they have no show at all. Nothing. Nada. Just parasitical negativity.

  • CAconservative

    It sounds like he’s describing” his-majesty-Obimbo”. There are four people sitting there, telling us, that we are stupid, blithering idiots for not going along with the current crop of corrupt politicians?! They just can’t digest why we are railing against their Liberal moronic agenda. And of course, they being the Hollywood elite, know far better than we do about what we need? The next time I need to find a new brand of toilet paper, I’ll be sure to ask those pompous-ass’s.

  • CosmosDan

    notsofast said:
    You mean the one in which more Americans have died in the 20 months that BHO has been president than died in 7 years under Bush? That one?

    Wow got me there. That must mean that our former Christian president didn’t actually start the two wars we are still fighting, and maybe he wasn’t president when 3000 Americans were killed in NYC either, and had nothing to do with the thousands of troops that have died there, and the tens of thousands that have been horribly wounded and the hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths.

    One of my biggest disappointments in Obama is the fact that we still have troops in the ME and Guantanamo is still open and undecided. I don’t know what point you imagine you’re making but any suggestion that Obama’s failure somehow excuses Bush, Cheney and the rest who got us into the mess we’re in is just to stupid bother with.

  • writer

    Cosmos, a Jewish guy brought up Hitler. I don’t know why anti-semitism came to mind.

  • BobHahn

    In the future, everyone will be Hitler for fifteen minutes.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    There is a reason why Beck references the Nazi’s. One of the places Hitler got his ideas about eugenics was from the American left (the Progressives.) Read up on Amercian Progressives. Read up on Margaret Sanger, who founded Planned Parenthood. She was a Eugenicist and a liberal. For those that don’t know our liberals were very keen on filtering the DNA of undesirables.

    Planned Parenthood was founded to help rid the US of undesirable people. Yes, this is the history of our liberals. So the Nazi references are valid here.

    I humbly suggest you’ve missed the point and are to blinded by partisanship. The Nazi’s and Hitler weren’t left or right , they were NAZI”S and HITLER. Honest, it’s much more complex and requires far more effort than listening to Beck spout his nonsense. Political philosophies and ideologies overlap and , as we see in our own example, go from one extreme to the other. Finding one or two points of something somewhat similar doesn’t make either side, Nazi or a communist. That’s just hyperbolic bullshit that doesn’t help. {well, it helps Beck’s bank account} Neither the left or right are immune from the corruption that power and money can sometimes bring. It’s that corruption that is the most imminent threat to you and me and this country.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    I humbly suggest you’ve missed the point and are to blinded by partisanship. The Nazi’s and Hitler weren’t left or right , they were NAZI”S and HITLER. Honest, it’s much more complex and requires far more effort than listening to Beck spout his nonsense. Political philosophies and ideologies overlap and , as we see in our own example, go from one extreme to the other. Finding one or two points of something somewhat similar doesn’t make either side, Nazi or a communist. That’s just hyperbolic bullshit that doesn’t help. {well, it helps Beck’s bank account} Neither the left or right are immune from the corruption that power and money can sometimes bring. It’s that corruption that is the most imminent threat to you and me and this country.

    Hitler and the Nazi’s didn’t happen in a vacuum. Read up on Margaret Sanger and the Progressives. Nasty, nasty people.

    Here, let me help you. Some quotes:

    “The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.”
    - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    “Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race.”
    - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…”
    - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    “Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need … We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock.”
    - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    “Among our more than 100,000,000 population, are Negroes, Indians, Chinese and other colored people to the number of 11,000,000…Do these elements give promise of a better race? [and] are we doing anything genuinely constructive to overcome this situation?”
    - Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood

    Gee, do you see any similarities to Hitler’s efforts?

    Finally, what did Ruth Bader Ginsberg say TWO YEARS AGO about Roe v Wade: Answer: “Frankly, I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”?

    The racism on the Left runs deep. In this case, the Nazi comparisons are valid.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Cosmos, a Jewish guy brought up Hitler. I don’t know why anti-semitism came to mind.

    I get your point, but the specific subject , and the point of the reference in the clip, was the use of fear in politics , not antisemitism, right?

    We need to be able to separate issues in order to discuss them rationally. You and I might agree on some issues while disagreeing on others. It’s not all left or all right. I think it’s a problem when it’s presented that way.

  • writer

    It can be argued whether the Nazis were right or left when compared to American politics, but there’s no argument they were anti-semitic. So anytime someone on the left makes a Hitler reference, I’m always amazed that rabid jew haters such as Wright and Farrakhan, and Jews such as Reiner, Stephen Speilberg, Sarah Silverman and others, can all back the same candidate. And neither side seems to notice the other. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    Here, let me help you. Some quotes:

    Don’t bother. I see this strange game in comments to try and decide which side is the best, and who did and said the worst things. It’s a little to 5th grade for me. When you say the left or the right you’re talking about large groups of people and it seems like common sense to me that there are very good people and very bad people in both groups and life has taught me that humans in general are not all one way or the other.

    As I said, we have a common enemy and it’s not either political ideology. A corrupt Democrat is not superior or worse than a corrupt Republican. An honest Democrat who sincerely tries to be a public servant is not better or worse than an honest Republican who feels the same. Both of those honest people are honoring the process that this country was founded on.

  • J Baustian

    I’m trying to think of some reason why I should care what Rob Reiner thinks.

    Nope, can’t do it.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    An honest Democrat who sincerely tries to be a public servant is not better or worse than an honest Republican who feels the same. Both of those honest people are honoring the process that this country was founded on.

    I used to think that. I’ll modify it to be Modern Liberals/Progressives and Conservatives. Each party has elements of both, but the Democrats ran out the old time liberals and most of the Conservatives starting in the 60′s.

    There are honest Modern Liberals/Progressives but honest to what? They’re belief system is abnormal. Honesty isn’t the issue because both sides are being true to their beliefs when they are diametrically opposed to issues.

    The issue is Modern Liberals/Progressives don’t believe in normal success. Normal people measure success as when things are better or can get better. Modern Liberals/Progressives don’t work like this. They measure success as when things are “equal”.

    It’s a HUGE difference.

    What I have discovered is this difference is key to understand the two sides. What I have also learned is that it is clear that the goal of making things better does lead to better outcomes for the most people over time. I have also learned that Modern Liberalism/Progressivism leads to be people being hurt.

    Therefore, I oppose just about everything the Left comes up with.

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    It can be argued whether the Nazis were right or left when compared to American politics, but there’s no argument they were anti-semitic. So anytime someone on the left makes a Hitler reference, I’m always amazed that rabid jew haters such as Wright and Farrakhan, and Jews such as Reiner, Stephen Speilberg, Sarah Silverman and others, can all back the same candidate. And neither side seems to notice the other. Politics does indeed make strange bedfellows.

    I can imagine that sometimes in politics you have to work with people you strongly disagree with our even don’t like. I was surprised to discover Alan Grayson of “Taliban Dan” infamy co sponsored a bill together concerning the Fed. I know I have good friends and a sister I love that I strongly disagree with on certain issues. What I appreciate is that we never let those issues drive a wedge between us.

  • Scuttlebutt

    So this was taken completely out of context, out of the spirit with which it was delivered and blown way, way, way out of proportion. Congratulations MSNBC’s new chat site. You’re as ridiculous and biased as Fox “News” ever was. I hope people will go watch Real Time and see how the comments were delivered.

    As for comparing George Wrongwar Bush to Hitler: He’s a far rightwing fundamentalist — look up the definition of Fascist in your dictionary if you have one. He bombed innocent people. He set up torture camps. Yeah, I think if anyone gets to be compared to the Furor it would be Dubya. But putting a Hitler moustache on a black liberal is just ignorant.

  • Scuttlebutt

    I wonder if there are ever any serious discussions to be found on these Internet chat things. Someplace where little boys (or bitter old men) and their testosterone don’t run amuck and pollute everything.

  • Alz

    Scuttlebutt said:
    So this was taken completely out of context, out of the spirit with which it was delivered and blown way, way, way out of proportion. Congratulations MSNBC’s new chat site. You’re as ridiculous and biased as Fox “News” ever was. I hope people will go watch Real Time and see how the comments were delivered.

    As for comparing George Wrongwar Bush to Hitler: He’s a far rightwing fundamentalist — look up the definition of Fascist in your dictionary if you have one. He bombed innocent people. He set up torture camps. Yeah, I think if anyone gets to be compared to the Furor it would be Dubya. But putting a Hitler moustache on a black liberal is just ignorant.

    Fascism is on the Left, not the Right. The Right is about Limited Government and Individual Freedom – opposite of the Left.

    What most people don’t realize is that Socialism, Modern Liberalism, Communism, Progressivism, Fascism, etc, are all cousins.

  • DEFENDER-90

    Fascism—-Agovenmmenta system marked by CENTRALLIZED DICTAORSSIHP stringent SOCIOECONOMIC controls,and often belligent nationalism.

    Fascim is not race based.

  • writer

    Cosmos, if anti-semites like Wright and Farrakhan want to hold hands with Reiner and Silverman on the way to the voting booth, it’s indeed a kumbahyah moment. Just saying that Reiner and Silverman should take a glance at who they’re holding hands with, before throwing Hitler references at tea partiers.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    There are honest Modern Liberals/Progressives but honest to what? They’re belief system is abnormal. Honesty isn’t the issue because both sides are being true to their beliefs when they are diametrically opposed to issues.

    The point is that not all Republicans or all Democrats share a single belief system, and your generalization is wrong. Not all liberals believe everything should be equal, and the free enterprise ideal may sound good in principle but it doesn’t exist in reality, because of the corruption between government and business.

    The process is supposed to work as honest elected officials of good intentions work to make things better and find effective compromises that may be imperfect, but still help. That can’t happen when there are so few honest elected officials and the process is corrupted by money influences on both sides. Neither side is completely right or completely wrong, or has all the answers, and when we start believing otherwise we lost sight of the system that was put in place.

  • Nachi

    You got that perfectly correct, Rob. Tea Partiers: der absccaum der menschheit. Ja, Brunnhilde! Wiederbtaetigung!!!

  • CosmosDan

    writer said:
    Cosmos, if anti-semites like Wright and Farrakhan want to hold hands with Reiner and Silverman on the way to the voting booth, it’s indeed a kumbahyah moment. Just saying that Reiner and Silverman should take a glance at who they’re holding hands with, before throwing Hitler references at tea partiers.

    Neither Wright or Farrakhan are running for office. I cast my vote based on what I think not by looking who else might vote for the same person. If I didn’t vote for someone because someone I objected to was also voting for them I would never vote at all.

    I understand Reiner’s description of fear mongering because both parties use that. The Hitler reference didn’t help the make the point and wasn’t necessary, but I have to say, it cracks me up to see so many posters be pissed at him for it when it’s been done repeatedly and more often by one of their favorite pundits. even now ALZ is busy justifying Beck’s Nazi references as totally justified. That’s fucked up. Maybe we can have a reasonable discussion about issues without any Nazi reference. Wouldn’t that be novel?

    I’m just glad the rally to restore sanity has caught on and has spawned rallies all over the country and even in other countries. I hope the momentum continues.

  • writer

    That’s right, Rob. Ignore all those anti-semitic remarks from Wright and Farrakhan. They love ya, baby!

  • DrinkURtea

    I think that the comparisons to Hitler are pretty much pointless. The fascist elements of the Right Wing more closely approximate the practices of pre-WWII Italy and Franco’s Spain than Hitler’s Germany. Alz is wrong, though, when saying that the Fascism is coming from the Left. Alz really should go read the definition of Fascism before making such a statement. Fascism is oriented toward corporations, intense nationalism and so on …all qualities currently being championed by the right wing.
    The Tea Party says that they want lower taxes. Fact: The stimulus bill that they rail against was 1/3 tax cuts.
    Fact: The Party says that they want to lower the deficit. Obama’s 2010 budget closed the deficit gap by 13% over Bush’s 2009 budget. Fact. The Tea Party/Right Wing are saying that the economy is worse than when Obama took it over. Yet the Dow is currently above 11K. On November 20, 2008, the Dow closed at 7552.29. The economy was tanked and now we’re all sure enough that it will survive to complain that it isn’t improving fast enough. The GDP growth rate was -6.80 in December ’08. By Jan ’10 it was back up to 5%. The facts suggest that Obama has been a better steward of the economy than the Bush gang (who had the benefit of those tax cuts to the wealthy that are supposed to keep our economy so robust) So at some point we have to conclude that something else is driving the anger, cause it sure aint the facts.

  • shootfromthehip

    Well I just watched the video.

    Rob R is 100% correct.

    These facts have sent the teabaggers on this site into a thumbs down frenzy.

    Truth hurts.

  • Patrick Henry

    Nachi said:
    You got that perfectly correct, Rob. Tea Partiers: der absccaum der menschheit. Ja, Brunnhilde! Wiederbtaetigung!!!

    Damn, that talking chimp speaks German, too!

  • writer

    I can just picture Rob, Rev. Wright, and Louie, all sitting around the campfire, having S’Mores, and talking about all those anti-semitic ‘tea baggers’.

  • Patrick Henry

    DrinkURtea said:
    So at some point we have to conclude that something else is driving the anger, cause it sure aint the facts.

    No, just a**holes like you.

  • notsofast

    CosmosDan said:
    That must mean that our former Christian president didn’t actually start the two wars we are still fighting,

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry to break it to you lib, but Barry is a Christian!

    LOL

    Man are you so dumb!

    And Barry HAS cost more American lives in Afghanistan than Bush did.

    And Kennedy, Johnson, Truman and Wilson and FDR lost more American lives than Bush- so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Treacher/542957672 Jim Treacher

    Don’t worry, Rob, the Democrats aren’t imploding. Their appeal is just becoming more selective.

  • Alz

    DrinkURtea said:
    I think that the comparisons to Hitler are pretty much pointless. The fascist elements of the Right Wing more closely approximate the practices of pre-WWII Italy and Franco’s Spain than Hitler’s Germany. Alz is wrong, though, when saying that the Fascism is coming from the Left. Alz really should go read the definition of Fascism before making such a statement. Fascism is oriented toward corporations, intense nationalism and so on …all qualities currently being championed by the right wing.
    The Tea Party says that they want lower taxes. Fact: The stimulus bill that they rail against was 1/3 tax cuts.
    Fact: The Party says that they want to lower the deficit. Obama’s 2010 budget closed the deficit gap by 13% over Bush’s 2009 budget. Fact. The Tea Party/Right Wing are saying that the economy is worse than when Obama took it over. Yet the Dow is currently above 11K. On November 20, 2008, the Dow closed at 7552.29. The economy was tanked and now we’re all sure enough that it will survive to complain that it isn’t improving fast enough. The GDP growth rate was -6.80 in December ‘08. By Jan ‘10 it was back up to 5%. The facts suggest that Obama has been a better steward of the economy than the Bush gang (who had the benefit of those tax cuts to the wealthy that are supposed to keep our economy so robust) So at some point we have to conclude that something else is driving the anger, cause it sure aint the facts.

    The common definitions of Fascism are wrong. Just think about it. The Right is about Limited Government and Individual Freedom. That can’t be Fascism.

    The corporate angle is wrong, too. Look who is doing all of the bailouts? Obama! As for Bush, Bush spent and he wasn’t much of a Conservative on many issues!

    Plus, look at outfits like GE. GE is in bed with Obama. Energy (windmills, nuclear) and healthcare. GE
    Look at GM. What happened there is Fascism! Conservatives wanted no such bailout and for the normal bankruptcy proceedings to occur.

    Your issues with too much corporate-government collusion are correct, but it’s not from the Right.

    You bring up the DOW. That’s good, because there is a MASSIVE amount of collusion going on. High Frequency Trading is now 70% of the market. The SEC has been SILENCED on it.

    The HFT operations are regularly testing the markets without making trades – which is ILLEGAL.

    All of this is why the Tea Party has risen. It started under Ross Perot years ago, but now it is much bigger as Obama steps on the gas of destruction.

    The issue is Liberalism in BOTH parties. We need to go back to following the Constitution.

  • CosmosDan

    notsofast said:

    notsofast said:
    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, sorry to break it to you lib, but Barry is a Christian!

    LOL

    Man are you so dumb!

    And Barry HAS cost more American lives in Afghanistan than Bush did.

    And Kennedy, Johnson, Truman and Wilson and FDR lost more American lives than Bush- so put that in your pipe and smoke it!

    Well that’s just great. Treat war and the loss of American lives as if it’s just some childish measure of who’s the more moral.
    I honestly don’t give a crap what religion Bush and Obama claim to be. I was responding to another poster who mentioned it as if it mattered.

  • DEFENDER-90

    Der schimpanse ist worng.

    Die guten leute von der tee party kampfen sozialismus,die idee dass abschaum sind oder nazi’s ein wit zist.

  • Sunnyr

    This IGNORANT BLOATED WHALE is truly a Meathead!! Who gives a *hit what he thinks about ANYTHING? He is totally irrelevant.

    Media Whores, all of them.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    The point is that not all Republicans or all Democrats share a single belief system, and your generalization is wrong. Not all liberals believe everything should be equal, and the free enterprise ideal may sound good in principle but it doesn’t exist in reality, because of the corruption between government and business.

    Yes, people have slightly different belief systems, but the country has been comprised of people with almost the same belief system for 140+ years. The polarization that we have now is due to a chasm in the belief systems.

    It started in the 1900′s to 1920′s – somewhere in there, maybe a bit sooner.

    The system does very well with people who have slightly different belief systems, but there is war where the belief systems are so diametrically opposed.

    The differences between the two sides are not minor. On just about every major issue, the two sides cannot agree on a course of action. But It’s actually worse.

    It’s worse because the different belief systems drive the two sides to not being able to agree on the problems themselves!!!!

    Do you see what I mean?

    What is happening now is the Right is waking up. For scores of years, the differences were masked or not very apparent. More traditional people never contemplated that the Left was that different. Plus, the media covered for the Leftists. The internet is changing this.

    I think people used to think that we were in different boats all rowing to the same place. Starting in the 60′s when the Modern Liberals/Progressives really starting taking over the Democratic Party, it started becoming more apparent. At this time, the Modern Liberals/Progressives started purging the Democrats of more conservative people. We used to hear about Conservative Democrats. No more.

    The hump that everyone needs to get over is to realize that Modern Liberals/Progressives a) really are different and b) that their interest in forcing everything to be “equal” through their Socialism is wrong.

    Everyone who has an interest in this should find the time and watch the video “How Modern Liberals Think” by Evan Sayet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

    Evan used to write for Bill Maher and his theory is genius. Find the time!

  • MOPrincess

    So, you (Mr. Reiner) are scared of someone charismatic coming along in a time of bad economics, and you fear a guy coming along rallies the troops…and Mr. Meathead, your fear is that the Tea Party will come along with a charismatic leader…and all they are selling is fear and anger.

    Gosh, doesn’t this sound like what Obama did?

    It is actually quite scary that you would use Hitler to represent the American people who are sick and tired of the abuse of the Gov’t and their outright theft of the American People’s money…and you call this Hitlerish? Yet, Obama come into the picture as some god like charismatic character that will save the world, he takes over the car industry, he takes over the banks, our healthcare and you call us Hitlerish?

    Meathead, your name is so appropriate and you so do not deserve to be an American, you need to move to China.

  • magicbeans

    Oh brother. *rolls eyes* Didn’t we just get scolded by some comedien I never heard of about comparing anyone to Hitler because they killed “his people” and that sort of thing just bothers him? Could someone call him up for comment, please?

    Okay for me but not for thee. More hypocracy from the left.

    Its kind of sad that Reiner is ruined for me. I loved When Harry Met Sally and The Princess Bride. But I’m not feeling the love right now and I don’t particulary feel like supporting his career. I’ve started reading lables when it comes to TV and Movies. If they’ve been stupid and pissed me off I don’t buy tickets for it or rent it or tune in. Its time to give Rob the F off.

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  • eingriff

    One problem with being utterly devoid of any sense of history is that you view the world through your navel.

  • jo hoochie

    writer said:
    Since Reiner is Jewish, I think it’s particularly ironic that he never addresses all the anti-semitism on the left.

    Isn’t Sor-ass and Reiner kin???? Two peas in a pod. Sor-ass has got to be his Father, maybe mentor, maybe grand dad??

  • jo hoochie

    Sunnyr said:
    This IGNORANT BLOATED WHALE is truly a Meathead!! Who gives a *hit what he thinks about ANYTHING? He is totally irrelevant. Media Whores, all of them.

    Meathead……no ,Dickhead is more like it!!

  • Sharonrj53

    Who cares what this dried up old man thinks. Tea Party is exposing the truth and that is something that the left wing nut jobs have been so afraid of for years. Now they have someone in the White House that is following or trying to follow the agenda that these whack jobs want and because Obama is so incompetent he cannot even do that with a majority. Hitler Well back at you those who are against freedom of speech. So back at you Reiner.

  • The_Reasonable_Lib

    Hitler references are funny and valid until they’re directed at your side. Godwin’s law strikes again.

  • timcajun

    fizeit says:

    no more mention of Nazis, Hitler and his cohorts, the SS, and other such labels. This should just be out of bounds, a product of ignorance, stupidity, and gross misunderstanding and misuse of history.

    UNLESS a tea party sheep says that about a liberal! Spoken like a loyal party member!

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    Yes, people have slightly different belief systems, but the country has been comprised of people with almost the same belief system for 140+ years.

    This is stunningly incorrect. You may remember the civil war

    Alz said:
    What is happening now is the Right is waking up. For scores of years, the differences were masked or not very apparent. More traditional people never contemplated that the Left was that different. Plus, the media covered for the Leftists. The internet is changing this.

    I think people used to think that we were in different boats all rowing to the same place. Starting in the 60’s when the Modern Liberals/Progressives really starting taking over the Democratic Party, it started becoming more apparent. At this time, the Modern Liberals/Progressives started purging the Democrats of more conservative people. We used to hear about Conservative Democrats. No more.

    The hump that everyone needs to get over is to realize that Modern Liberals/Progressives a) really are different and b) that their interest in forcing everything to be “equal” through their Socialism is wrong.

    Everyone who has an interest in this should find the time and watch the video “How Modern Liberals Think” by Evan Sayet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

    I’ve seen that posted before. The guy isn’t genius. Just an articulate extremest. Sorry you buy into this You should spend some time away from blogs and looking at a m,ore balanced history of politics in the last 40 years or more.
    IMO the media, now more focused on ratings than informing us,pundits looking for ratings and bloggers have given the extremists louder voices than the reasonable independents and moderates. We need to stop buying into the extremes of either side and focus on problem solving through informed discussions and compromise, but first we have to deal with the massive corruption in both parties. Buying into the extremes and partisan bickering stands in the way.

  • Jelperman

    The Teabaggers are like Nazis -only not as cosmopolitan.

  • shootfromthehip

    There are simply too many similarities between the tea party at the Nazi party to be ignored. Ask any historian.

  • writer

    Jew bashing is more of a Rev. Wright and Nation of Islam practice. But since it’s politically incorrect to ever mention this, let’s ascribe those traits to the tea party.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    This is stunningly incorrect. You may remember the civil war

    I’ve seen that posted before. The guy isn’t genius. Just an articulate extremest. Sorry you buy into this You should spend some time away from blogs and looking at a m,ore balanced history of politics in the last 40 years or more.
    IMO the media, now more focused on ratings than informing us,pundits looking for ratings and bloggers have given the extremists louder voices than the reasonable independents and moderates. We need to stop buying into the extremes of either side and focus on problem solving through informed discussions and compromise, but first we have to deal with the massive corruption in both parties. Buying into the extremes and partisan bickering stands in the way.

    Being for the Constitution and working at making things better is not an extremist viewpoint.

    On the other hand, pushing for what amounts to Socialism, spitting on the Constitution and working to force everything to be “equal” IS extremist.

    Your path (Leftism) leads to hopelessness, despair and death. Just look at the places under the most liberal control for the longest, the inner cities.

  • timcajun

    shootfromthehip says:

    There are simply too many similarities between the tea party at the Nazi party to be ignored. Ask any historian.

    You are correct on this point! The teas can’t wait to call Obama a Nazi, as a ramble, but no point of reference by his actions! The tea party rules off of their proven failed policy, fear, anger, hey we need to hate that guy (jews), get mad,get mad now, they are going to get you ,tell grandma so we can scare her! (Beck) The silly ramblings of Beck,Palin and Angle with the tired catch pharses( Hitler speech). Go get your guns before they get us! I don’t like you as a reporter so I will take you out, cuff you,avoid and threaten you. I will only talk to state owned media (Fox). All of these points are facts and do link back to that time! This is so clear, that if not for the Senate to block the caziness, we would all need to worry (about them)

  • writer

    Farrakhan has called Hitler a great man, and his best friend is Obama’s pastor of twenty years, Rev. Wright. But again, it’s much too politically incorrect to ever talk of such things. Let’s keep talking about the tea party.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    Being for the Constitution and working at making things better is not an extremist viewpoint.

    that’s right it isn’t. It’s also general statement that it doesn’t mean anything. Either a liberal or a conservative could make the that exact statement and be sincere.

    Alz said:
    On the other hand, pushing for what amounts to Socialism, spitting on the Constitution and working to force everything to be “equal” IS extremist.

    Your path (Leftism) leads to hopelessness, despair and death. Just look at the places under the most liberal control for the longest, the inner cities.

    This on the other hand is an extreme statement, in being so judgmental, and wrong at the same time. I’m not interested in making everything equal and there are a load of Democrats that feel the same way. Spitting on the Constitution is ridiculous hyperbole that denies historic realities. Your partisan blinders are on big time so you characterize moderates like myself as leading to hopelessness, despair and death? Reducing a country shared by millions of people with varying ideas to a game of cops and robbers is denying reality. Sorry you feel that way.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    that’s right it isn’t. It’s also general statement that it doesn’t mean anything. Either a liberal or a conservative could make the that exact statement and be sincere.

    This on the other hand is an extreme statement, in being so judgmental, and wrong at the same time. I’m not interested in making everything equal and there are a load of Democrats that feel the same way. Spitting on the Constitution is ridiculous hyperbole that denies historic realities. Your partisan blinders are on big time so you characterize moderates like myself as leading to hopelessness, despair and death? Reducing a country shared by millions of people with varying ideas to a game of cops and robbers is denying reality. Sorry you feel that way.

    You are right, I am judging. I see that Liberalism has been an utter failure and that Conservatism does a better job of helping more people over time.

    I grew up on the South Side of Chicago and went to public schools. I’ve seen first hand what liberalism does to an area and to people.

    What i see are today’s liberals pushing the same ideas. It is correct and necessary to judge those ideas and the conclusion is they are failures. It doesn’t matter which party tries liberalism, it doesn’t work.

    Wake up and quit blocking out so much information. Seeking the truth is a much better way to live than denying it.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    You are right, I am judging. I see that Liberalism has been an utter failure and that Conservatism does a better job of helping more people over time.

    I grew up on the South Side of Chicago and went to public schools. I’ve seen first hand what liberalism does to an area and to people.

    What i see are today’s liberals pushing the same ideas. It is correct and necessary to judge those ideas and the conclusion is they are failures. It doesn’t matter which party tries liberalism, it doesn’t work.

    Wake up and quit blocking out so much information. Seeking the truth is a much better way to live than denying it.

    I am a very big advocate of the truth and believe in it’s freeing qualities. Seeking the truth is an ongoing commitment and it’s clear you and I are not going to agree on what is true.

    Describing all leftists including myself in such extreme terms IMO is obviously untrue with just basic observation and an understanding of human nature.
    Let’s take welfare as one example. If we see it as a sliding scale, with “no welfare programs at all” on one end the equality you mentioned at the other,
    no welfare forced fiscal equality

    there are a lot of points along that scale that are neither extreme. Moderate conservatives and/or liberals might agree on some point as a compromise. That’s how our government works. I know that welfare handled badly has created generations of people dependent on it, and some that game the system. I support workfare rather than welfare, where people in need offer some service in return for the help they get.
    Decent people can find compromises that will work, even though no solution will be a perfect one. To get there we need honest, fact based reasonable discussions. Blind partisanship, doesn’t help.

  • axel360

    I don’t know who is worse. Him or the audience applauding him. And how can he chastise someone for not reading the constitution when he obviously hasn’t?

  • justanotherconservative

    another hollywoodhasbeen (really never was?) heard from.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    I am a very big advocate of the truth and believe in it’s freeing qualities. Seeking the truth is an ongoing commitment and it’s clear you and I are not going to agree on what is true.

    Describing all leftists including myself in such extreme terms IMO is obviously untrue with just basic observation and an understanding of human nature.
    Let’s take welfare as one example. If we see it as a sliding scale, with “no welfare programs at all” on one end the equality you mentioned at the other,
    no welfare forced fiscal equality

    there are a lot of points along that scale that are neither extreme. Moderate conservatives and/or liberals might agree on some point as a compromise. That’s how our government works. I know that welfare handled badly has created generations of people dependent on it, and some that game the system. I support workfare rather than welfare, where people in need offer some service in return for the help they get.
    Decent people can find compromises that will work, even though no solution will be a perfect one. To get there we need honest, fact based reasonable discussions. Blind partisanship, doesn’t help.

    I didn’t say all Leftists and I don’t mean to imply it, but I do mean the deep-down Modern Liberals/Progressives.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    I didn’t say all Leftists and I don’t mean to imply it, but I do mean the deep-down Modern Liberals/Progressives.

    I appreciate you clarifying that. I think it’s important think about our language and be precise. Lumping the left or the right into one big group is inaccurate. I believe there are extreme liberals who want things equal and just don’t see the negative effect that too many social programs can create. They don’t really worry me though because I believe there are too many moderates that will prevent that from happening.
    As I said earlier. I think the more important threat to American citizens right now is wide spread corruption in DC on both sides of the aisle and the buying and selling of our government at the expense of working class Americans, both liberal and conservative.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    I appreciate you clarifying that. I think it’s important think about our language and be precise. Lumping the left or the right into one big group is inaccurate. I believe there are extreme liberals who want things equal and just don’t see the negative effect that too many social programs can create. They don’t really worry me though because I believe there are too many moderates that will prevent that from happening.
    As I said earlier. I think the more important threat to American citizens right now is wide spread corruption in DC on both sides of the aisle and the buying and selling of our government at the expense of working class Americans, both liberal and conservative.

    I agree but I will add that Conservatism (not REPUBLICANS) is the proven way to the path to the best system that benefits the most people over time.

    Moder Liberals/Progressives in BOTH parties are the enemy and they must be voted out.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    I agree but I will add that Conservatism (not REPUBLICANS) is the proven way to the path to the best system that benefits the most people over time.

    Moder Liberals/Progressives in BOTH parties are the enemy and they must be voted out.

    I may be mistaken but I don’t think the extreme liberals have that much influence. There are quite a few Blue Dog Democrats including a good one from here in TN that are moderate to conservative. I think if we can greatly reduce the amount of special interest money influencing our elected officials we can begin to have honest discussions about problem solving.

  • Sue

    Hey, this decades old fool is still around? His time needs to come to an end.

    CosmosDan…I agree, but will never happen. Progressives want what they’ve wanted for nearly 100 years and they are not about to give up…we need to stay on top of stuff and fight it out.

  • CosmosDan

    Sue said:
    Hey, this decades old fool is still around? His time needs to come to an end.

    CosmosDan…I agree, but will never happen. Progressives want what they’ve wanted for nearly 100 years and they are not about to give up…we need to stay on top of stuff and fight it out.

    Well yeah, that’s the point. That’s how government works. The fact that we don’t stay on top of it is reflected in how corrupt the system has become. We’ll always have people with various ideas and we’ll have a changing society to address. There’s no need to panic and be so hateful. If we can get decent people in office things will balance out and be okay.

  • Alz

    CosmosDan said:
    I may be mistaken but I don’t think the extreme liberals have that much influence. There are quite a few Blue Dog Democrats including a good one from here in TN that are moderate to conservative. I think if we can greatly reduce the amount of special interest money influencing our elected officials we can begin to have honest discussions about problem solving.

    Pelosi, Obama, Reid, Franken, Barney Frank, etc. are pretty extreme. The Blue Dogs aren’t conservative,

  • wardmd

    Actually, Obama’s rise from Community Agitator to President based solely on his ability to read a Teleprompter is a FAR closer comparison to Hitler than any Tea Partier.

    Wait, that’s NOT FAIR – Hitler didn’t NEED a Teleprompter!

  • texaskool

    Sounds as if the Jewish media fears a day of reckoning.

  • CosmosDan

    Alz said:
    Pelosi, Obama, Reid, Franken, Barney Frank, etc. are pretty extreme. The Blue Dogs aren’t conservative,

    Of course they’re not. Just examples of Democrats who are not far left. Just as there are Republicans who support gay marriage , and are more moderate than the libertarians.

  • Dem4Ever

    I am now offiicially frightened of the progressives.  They are really starting to act crazy and they are making death threats.  I had hoped that they would heed Obama’s warning when he chastised them, during his pep rally/memorial service, for their hate speech.  But, alas it was not to be.

    They have really turned up the heat so much that law enforcement is getting involved. Now it is likely that a progressive will take up arms and murder one or more Republican(s).  Even more disturbing and utterly frightening is the equal likelyhood that the progressives will murder one of their own in such a way as to make it appear that someone they hate did the killing so that they can go on even more disturbing rampages.

    We ask that all progressives stop the hate and the killing.  Please, just stop.  It’s not too late.  Just stop!

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