Frances, I like your work here. I don’t even know which way you lean politically. Sometimes you seem libertarian-ish, sometimes liberal. That’s good. I agree with what you said but….

“paints a picture of America’s brightest youth as naive, sheltered, and dangerously liberal.”

That pretty much sums it up. Not dangerously liberal, just typically liberal.

Look at stats on how young kids vote. There’s very little diversity of thought on college campuses.

Why doesn’t any person interviewed by this smarmy asskissing little shit ball licking O’Reilly sycophant Watters answer him with this: “Andrea Mackris. How did she afford her upper west side condo. Andrea Mackris…?”

This little unctuous bastard’s career would be over. And, his boss wouldn’t be too very far behind.

Listen to all the Union Princesses biatching about their Golden Packages!

They’re right that the GOP should go after the Wall Street scum, but their thug unions are not much better.

They’re complaining now about the GOP ramming through the law in Wi. – not a word from these hypocrites when Obama did it with that disaster of ObamaCare!

Bust the Public Unions – and you deal a death blow to the Democratic Party!

NORBIT Jr. said:
Bust the Public Unions – and you deal a death blow to the Democratic Party!

HooRah!

Fox News and Bill O’Reilly are going to be in a whole world of trouble when these young people get older. The changing demographics does not bode well for the outcome of far right politics.

“Unsurprisingly, the montage paints a picture of America’s brightest youth as naive, sheltered, and dangerously liberal.”

And it looked like a couple of those critters desperately needed a bath!

dirty liberals!

WillP said:
Fox News and Bill O’Reilly are going to be in a whole world of trouble when these young people get older. The changing demographics does not bode well for the outcome of far right politics.

One would hope that as they get older they will gradually extract their heads from their anuses.

NORBIT Jr. said:

Bust the Public Unions – and you deal a death blow to the Democratic Party!

They represent what, roughly 7 % of all employees? If anything the Wisconsin thing has made them stronger. I bet donations are pouring in.

To get back on topic (which you struggle with mightily) think a story about O’Reilly being out of touch with anyone under 65 is a bit redundant.

Frances, I don’t know which is worse: your writing or your condescension toward O’Reilly and this “youth” segment.

“The impression an out-of-touch older person would get from this report is that young people have not changed one bit in neither style nor substance since the Watergate years.”

my dear girl! are there no editors who can help you?

as for the substance: I am the mom of a 20-year-old college student, and I also work with lots of students at my university job. I don’t know what youngsters you hang around with, but in my experience, the disaffected and somewhat clueless student is, sadly, typical.

and, um, “…if the segment’s intent was to scare older folk into thinking the ’60s are about to happen all over again…”

??? Frances, you do realize that the “older folk” you speak of WERE the ’60s, don’t you? that senior citizen you imagine being shocked probably heard Janis at Monterey in ’67.

but this article does make a nice change from Beck-bashing, so thanks.

WillP said:
Fox News and Bill O’Reilly are going to be in a whole world of trouble when these young people get older. The changing demographics does not bode well for the outcome of far right politics.

Actually, you’re wrong. Just read Mediaite and see that Fox wins in that coveted demographic too.

“If you’re young and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you’re old and not a conservative, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill(I think)

Ah the pride of Trinity! Spewing that all terrorist are muslim, he just forgot about Timothy McVeigh & The Oklahoma City Bombing or how about Theodore Kaczynski has been designated a “domestic terrorist” by the FBI. Oh I know that Trinity, that good Catholic school never taught him about the Aryan Nations, Alpha 66 and Omega 7, the Army of God, the Black Liberation Army, The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord, the Ku Klux Klan, the May 19th Communist Organization, The Order, the Phineas Priesthood, the IRA (many American supporters including Rep. Peter King (R_NY)), FOX News and on and on and on.

But O’Reilly and his schmuck on the street will continue to preach hate themselves, all the while blaming only muslims are terrorists. Let’s face it, they are just the last of a long line of people who believe that the end justifies the means.

Andrea Mackris. Andrea Mackris. Does anyone else notice the lack of vehement GOP/O’Reilly pushback? Do you know why?

They can’t respond. Ever. It’s a stain that will never go away. Imagine Jesse Watters having to talk about his boss’ fixation on loofahs.

Please, potential ambushees….get educated. Realize that once you throw the Andrea Mackris card out there, O’Reilly, Fox, and the pedantic Watters evaporate. They know it. They’re banking on your ignorance. Don’t let them cash in.

Be-leave me, the whole generation coming up are a bunch of liberal robots. I’m glad I am a retired business owner and don’t have to put up with them like you 30-50 year olds LOL. Good luck hiring this bunch! O thats right. They will all have government Jobs…

Orally sends his butt-boy out to interview TYPICAL members of the younger generation, and the DUFUS goes to COLUMBIA? An Ivy League school? One of seven in the nation? With tuition around $50K a year?
How much more out of touch can you be?

Most student members of the Political club I belong to are either Liberals or Libertarians. Very few are conservatives. Both ideologies allow flexibility in political thinking as changes in time occur. Conservatism is just too stagnant for most college students who are required to use their minds to find new solutions to everyday problems. It is what it is.

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yungchii said:
Most student members of the Political club I belong to are either Liberals or Libertarians. Very few are conservatives. Both ideologies allow flexibility in political thinking as changes in time occur. Conservatism is just too stagnant for most college students who are required to use their minds to find new solutions to everyday problems. It is what it is.

As a libertarian I find that if one deviates one iota from the lefts stringent check list, one is called a conservative. Ironically liberals are the most closed minded people I’ve ever encountered in my life.

Conservatives welcome me as an atheist, pro gay marriage, pro de-criminalizing of drugs person.

All I have to do is say that I want a smaller federal government and liberals look at me like the Koch brothers just possessed my soul and forced me to watch Fox 24-7 – Clockwork Orange style(Koch’s are libertarians, btw).

turk281 said:
Actually, you’re wrong. Just read Mediaite and see that Fox wins in that coveted demographic too.

“If you’re young and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you’re old and not a conservative, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill(I think)

Fox News wins the demo in cable news but that’s because conservatives mostly watch news and sports. Most people don’t watch these cable news opinion shows, they just spend a few minutes of the day getting their news online or from local/network nightly news . At 8pm there’s 3 million people watching O’Reilly and probably somewhere around 12 million watching shows like Glee on any given network.

WillP says:
Fox News and Bill O’Reilly are going to be in a whole world of trouble when these young people get older. The changing demographics does not bode well for the outcome of far right politics.

Only 20% of American’s consider themselves loony libs. I don’t see that changing.

Liberal Tormentor said:

Only 20% of American’s consider themselves loony libs. I don’t see that changing.

And yet, Democrats have gotten more votes in 4 of the last 5 Presidential elections, and if you believe all polls, as opposed to just the ones you agree with, are fairly likely to make it 5 of 6. Fancy that. Maybe the demonization of the word “liberal” and the glorification of the word “conservative” might contribute some to those identification numbers.

I, for one, would be willing to bet that ~80% of Americans of all political persuasions don’t know much of anything about complex public policy, so the opinions as to who thinks they’re what are mostly irrelevant anyway, except in shepherding them to the polls on election day.

Watters segment was over-produced probably had as much quick-cut filler as actual content.

Clearly the young lady fighting terrorism with “love” was being cute and one assumes that it was after a longish interview, so she probably felt some kind of repoire. As to Watters’ idea that there are no terrorists except Muslims — we’ll forget that he leaves out some elements of environmental extremism, the IRA, those child soldiers in Sri Lanka and most local or regional conflicts — but a lot of people would consider some aspects of the anti-abortion movement and some of their sympathizers “Christian” terrorists.

All together, I guess O’Reilly had a couple of minutes to fill and maybe Watters’ birthday is coming up or his rent is coming due, so he wanted to throw him a bone.

If only old people are conservative, doesn’t everyone who doesn’t meet an early death eventually get old?

Pubey says:

And yet, Democrats have gotten more votes in 4 of the last 5 Presidential elections,

Because you had I’s. Obama’s approval among I’s has plummeted from 47% to 37% in the last month, according to a poll out today. . That’s gotta sting a bit.

This sort of segment has been done before, it’s called “Jaywalking”. Where you selectively edit out of a huge pool of responses to make the whole group look amusingly stupid.

Liberal Tormentor said:
Because you had I’s. Obama’s approval among I’s has plummeted from 47% to 37% in the last month, according to a poll out today. . That’s gotta sting a bit.

It didn’t… It dropped to 46 in a Gallup weekly poll and those fluctuate every week without any really consistent pattern.

turk281 said:
As a libertarian I find that if one deviates one iota from the lefts stringent check list, one is called a conservative. Ironically liberals are the most closed minded people I’ve ever encountered in my life.Conservatives welcome me as an atheist, pro gay marriage, pro de-criminalizing of drugs person.All I have to do is say that I want a smaller federal government and liberals look at me like the Koch brothers just possessed my soul and forced me to watch Fox 24-7 – Clockwork Orange style(Koch’s are libertarians, btw).

This is the FIRST time I have seen a libertarian claim he/she is totally accepted by the conservative envagelical right. I feel that for a long time conservative politicians have exploited the libertarian base for their votes because they know that only a minority of people hold that ideology. In my opinion, liberals(and I don’t mean the progressives) and libertarians have a lot more in common except the issue of economics. They just have not realized it. Everybody in one way or the other is close-minded.

Three cheers for my old Alma Mater. I’m surprised that O’Reilly ran what is a serious put down of everything that FOX stands for. These kids are really on the ball. I graduated from Columbia in the early 1960′s when things were just starting to get interesting, but it was still a conservative time. I have no idea what today’s Conservatives stand for. They just seem to be a wrecking party trying to hold back the tide of history. It’s a cliche to say that conservatism is simply a large group of manipulated white people resentful that they’re losing their hold on the direction this country is going in, but there is a lot of truth in this. They don’t get that a small number of kleptomanical zillionaires are using them to keep their hold on power and profit. Fortunately, demographics is not on their side and Obama appears to be representative of a new America being born out of the debris left by their last and, hopefully, final great white hope, George Bush.

Allow me to correct you, Raygun. This was in Politico today:

Independents’ approval of President Barack Obama has dropped sharply in the past month, a new poll suggests.

Obama’s approval rating among independents fell to 37 percent in a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Wednesday, down from 47 percent a month ago.

Happy to help! Boom, winning!!

60k a year…wow. Those kids are an embarrassment to Americans.

turk281 said:
As a libertarian I find that if one deviates one iota from the lefts stringent check list, one is called a conservative. Ironically liberals are the most closed minded people I’ve ever encountered in my life.

Conservatives welcome me as an atheist, pro gay marriage, pro de-criminalizing of drugs person.

As a fellow Libertarian. I have to agree. The Conservatives I converse with have no problem with my long hair and pro-de-criminalizing of drugs. They are even pro gay marriage. We all like to sit and drink beer and smoke Cigars. God forbid a Liberal comes around. Fist thing that come out of their mouth is You alkyes need to put them things out. We just say “In your dreams Commie!” LOL

yungchii said:
This is the FIRST time I have seen a libertarian claim he/she is totally accepted by the conservative envagelical right. I feel that for a long time conservative politicians have exploited the libertarian base for their votes because they know that only a minority of people hold that ideology. In my opinion, liberals(and I don’t mean the progressives) and libertarians have a lot more in common except the issue of economics. They just have not realized it. Everybody in one way or the other is close-minded.

Haha, you must not have met many libertarians in your life.

Ask the Koch’s, anybody from the CATO institute, Penn and Teller, John Stossell, Ron or Rand Paul, the owner of Whole Foods John Mackey, or even Drew Carey.

They’ve all been accused as right wing corporate shills spewing venom and hate for advocating free markets and denouncing government.

And please…. suggesting that conservatives exploit libertarians suggests that libertarians aren’t smart enough and are easily manipulated…..a very liberal thing to say.

Apparently the author doesn’t see the irony in this story about one of the most radical leftist universities in the country.

turk281 said:
Haha, you must not have met many libertarians in your life.Ask the Koch’s, anybody from the CATO institute, Penn and Teller, John Stossell, Ron or Rand Paul, the owner of Whole Foods John Mackey, or even Drew Carey.They’ve all been accused as right wing corporate shills spewing venom and hate for advocating free markets and denouncing government.And please…. suggesting that conservatives exploit libertarians suggests that libertarians aren’t smart enough and are easily manipulated…..a very liberal thing to say.

Oh yes I have. The average day to day ones that are my teachers and my classmates, not the millionaires you mentioned. I didn’t suggest libertarians aren’t smart enough; that was your suggestion. And yes I do lean towards the Liberal ideology because it addresses most of the issues I’m concerned with. No single Ideology can solve America’s problems so don’t adress the “liberal” word like its something dirty.

ganymede said:
Three cheers for my old Alma Mater. I’m surprised that O’Reilly ran what is a serious put down of everything that FOX stands for. These kids are really on the ball. I graduated from Columbia in the early 1960’s when things were just starting to get interesting, but it was still a conservative time. I have no idea what today’s Conservatives stand for. They just seem to be a wrecking party trying to hold back the tide of history. It’s a cliche to say that conservatism is simply a large group of manipulated white people resentful that they’re losing their hold on the direction this country is going in, but there is a lot of truth in this. They don’t get that a small number of kleptomanical zillionaires are using them to keep their hold on power and profit. Fortunately, demographics is not on their side and Obama appears to be representative of a new America being born out of the debris left by their last and, hopefully, final great white hope, George Bush.

You graduated from Columbia, yea right, just like Olbermann graduated from Cornell. LOL You could prove it by using your real name. Oh no, I forgot people that graduate from Columbia are cowards.

gany, I forgot Columbia does have an affirmative action program to let misfits in. They even pass them along with phony grades.

‘Completely Misses Mark’ put through the liberal-to-reality translation machine…..Completely misses mark=Completely hits mark. Out of the park.

yungchii said:
Oh yes I have. The average day to day ones that are my teachers and my classmates, not the millionaires you mentioned. I didn’t suggest libertarians aren’t smart enough; that was your suggestion. And yes I do lean towards the Liberal ideology because it addresses most of the issues I’m concerned with. No single Ideology can solve America’s problems so don’t adress the “liberal” word like its something dirty.

Sorry about referencing some famous libertarians I listed. I should have brought up Steve the libertarian from South West Philly. Ever hear of him? Rocky is his favorite movie and he agrees with me too.

“Define Muslim!” sez the green haired pot head. Hopefully his dad or parents saw that and told him what an idiot he is. 60k a year and he doesn’t know what a Muslim is?

turk281 said:
Sorry about referencing some famous libertarians I listed. I should have brought up Steve the libertarian from South West Philly. Ever hear of him? Rocky is his favorite movie and he agrees with me too.

maybe Will Cain and Dr Walter Williams would have been preferable. :)

The martel doth protest too much, methinks.

This must be what Fox is talking about when they claim that they’re “fair and balanced”. Give me a break.

gordonbloyershow said:
You graduated from Columbia, yea right, just like Olbermann graduated from Cornell. LOL You could prove it by using your real name. Oh no, I forgot people that graduate from Columbia are cowards.

Just because you can’t measure up doesn’t mean you need to be so bitter, Gordita.

“yes, me and my many graduate degrees cannot comprehend Fox News.”
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HAHAHA this was great when I saw this last night. I recently posted how true libs are basicaly brain dead prozac chompin retards and the fools in this clip were perfect examples. The timing for some more proof to prove me right couldn’t have been better.

Fox, you often piss me off but this was nice of you. Thanks.

WillP said:
Fox News and Bill O’Reilly are going to be in a whole world of trouble when these young people get older. The changing demographics does not bode well for the outcome of far right politics.

It wasn’t boding well starting Nov 4th 2008 either but as predicted, after watching liberalism at work the country would eventually wake up and set things straight again.

angryhoodle said:
Andrea Mackris. Andrea Mackris. Does anyone else notice the lack of vehement GOP/O’Reilly pushback? Do you know why? They can’t respond. Ever. It’s a stain that will never go away. Imagine Jesse Watters having to talk about his boss’ fixation on loofahs. Please, potential ambushees….get educated. Realize that once you throw the Andrea Mackris card out there, O’Reilly, Fox, and the pedantic Watters evaporate. They know it. They’re banking on your ignorance. Don’t let them cash in.

I actually had to waste my time googling who the f— Andrea Mackris was just to confirm what an absolute jackass you are? Holy crap you dumb bastard stay on point or throw yourself off a tall building!

angryhoodle said:
Andrea Mackris. Andrea Mackris. Does anyone else notice the lack of vehement GOP/O’Reilly pushback? Do you know why? They can’t respond. Ever. It’s a stain that will never go away. Imagine Jesse Watters having to talk about his boss’ fixation on loofahs. Please, potential ambushees….get educated. Realize that once you throw the Andrea Mackris card out there, O’Reilly, Fox, and the pedantic Watters evaporate. They know it. They’re banking on your ignorance. Don’t let them cash in.

One big problem with your idiotic comments (and ironically, too) is that these so “in touch” youth wouldn’t even know the name Andrea Mackris, dumbass. FAIL. Come again?

ganymede said:
Three cheers for my old Alma Mater. I’m surprised that O’Reilly ran what is a serious put down of everything that FOX stands for. These kids are really on the ball. I graduated from Columbia in the early 1960’s when things were just starting to get interesting, but it was still a conservative time. I have no idea what today’s Conservatives stand for. They just seem to be a wrecking party trying to hold back the tide of history. It’s a cliche to say that conservatism is simply a large group of manipulated white people resentful that they’re losing their hold on the direction this country is going in, but there is a lot of truth in this. They don’t get that a small number of kleptomanical zillionaires are using them to keep their hold on power and profit. Fortunately, demographics is not on their side and Obama appears to be representative of a new America being born out of the debris left by their last and, hopefully, final great white hope, George Bush.

I’m always intrigued by comments such as this. What, pray tell, became of the idealistic 60′s students? They are the people you are lumping in with your obnoxious and probably self-loathing comments. They are the “large group of manipulated white people” you so condescendingly disparage.

What happens, by and large, is that once youth actually GROW UP and get jobs and or start businesses IN THE REAL WORLD, raise a family and PAY TAXES, their politics usually morph into something more realistic, which is conservatism. Then, there are the “takers” of the world, such as yourself, who bitch and whine about how unfair it is that people who worked their asses off to bring beneficial products and services to the world actually reap the rewards from it. Lame.

those were real future rocket scientists he talked to. i liked the lunch eating moron the best. if i were his parents, he would out of columbia, going to some jr. college somewhere. or, working.

yungchii said:
liberal” word like its something dirty.

not dirty. just stupid.

justanotherconservative said:
not dirty. just stupid.

Like those stupid rules that prevent child labor, unsafe work conditions, pollution, etc. Just stupid liberal folly.

The main theme here has become that the segment nit picked the individuals interviewed in order to make the whole campus seem like far left wing loons. Like the one guy pointed out, there were many more people applauding the wounded vet then there were mocking him. I believe him. But the fact that these retards exist, no matter what the percentage, needs highlighting because there is way too much at risk and there are way too many people that seem oblivious.

Just like the differnece in the percentage of islam that may be terrorist or law abiding dont matter, (all that matters is that they exist and people want to carry on as if they dont) the difference in how many hard core bath needing leftist exist dont matter either. What matters is that they do exist and that they’re freaking dangerous.

We are, as a whole, so dangerously behind the 8 ball in realizing the threats we face that in my opinion, a little “exaggeration” in how many collage kids are morons like these or how many muslims are terrorist is totally justified. Basicaly, If we cant wake you up to what the truth is, then “F—” you and enjoy the “disingenuous” ride!

You leftys shouldn’t really mind cause 1, as we save American lives along the way, you yourselves will enjoy that protection and 2, this attitude come’s off a bit elitist and disingenuous, and that should be rite up your alley being though you approve of BO and today’s liberal agenda.

Steve_27 said:
We are, as a whole, so dangerously behind the 8 ball in realizing the threats we face that in my opinion, a little “exaggeration” in how many collage kids are morons like these or how many muslims are terrorist is totally justified.

In other words, because you are afraid it is OK to make stuff up or skew the data to support your thesis. The danger level today does not compare with during the sixties and seventies when school children were practicing getting under their desks to kiss their ass goodbye.

“If Watters and company were going for accuracy on what actual people on college campuses look and sound like, and what they believe, they’ve completely missed the mark.”

huh? how did they miss the mark, if these are actual people from a college campus, saying what they believe?

I have to give @jjay7381 and a commenter on another thread credit for making me think about it, but it is kind of interesting that after the clip making fun of college students and the jab at the fellow with multiple degrees, they segue into a bit referencing Mr. Schiller’s comments and NPR.

sarainitaly said:
“If Watters and company were going for accuracy on what actual people on college campuses look and sound like, and what they believe, they’ve completely missed the mark.” huh? how did they miss the mark, if these are actual people from a college campus, saying what they believe?

STUDENT1: I wouldn’t call it a Muslim problem. I think there are terrorists of all religions.

WATTERS: Are there Christian terrorists?

STUDENT1: Oh, yes. [...]

STUDENT2: It’s not really about Islam. It’s a human occurrence. It’s a human — human aspect that has been going on throughout time

Sounds reasonable to me.

stay out o’ trouble.

‘These kids are really on the ball’

You’re kidding. They were morons. I especially like the guy that couldn’t name a single example of Fox’s ‘nuttiness’ but, instead, referred to his many graduate degrees-which would have been impressive if one of those degrees could have managed to come up with a response. Or the guy who claimed that more people were yelling for the disabled vet than were attacking him. Yes, but their yelling was the special silent kind that couldn’t be picked up by modern microphones! Jesus, dude, the whole thing was on effing video tape. That vet was jeered loudly and had absolutely NO support.

O’Reilly’s piece was hilarious in showing(yet again)that Columbia is the epicenter of liberal idiocy.

Most people under 35 have a Liberal slant. It’s not until they have lived and experienced a certain amount of life’s truisms that they see the fallacy in their thought, and become conservative. All of us would love to live in the Liberal- Never Never Land but, that’s just a fairy tale, unrelated to reality.

CAconservative said:
Most people under 35 have a Liberal slant. It’s not until they have lived and experienced a certain amount of life’s truisms that they see the fallacy in their thought, and become conservative. All of us would love to live in the Liberal- Never Never Land but, that’s just a fairy tale, unrelated to reality.

Conservativism is a rudder for progressive thought. But without progressive thought, there is no progress.

It’s obvious that the demographic attracted to Fox News really needs to feel relevant and superior;
typical of the confused, the frightened and the many people from the fringes of society.
Fox knows this and offers regular reassurance that the “wisdom of their audience” outweighs all evidence to the contrary.

Bill O must be feeling better about himself as well. Experience has not been the best teacher in his case.

The fact that Waters finds any – or so many – at all on campus is itself deplorable. College- aged people are not the only uninformed dunderheads out there. There are far too many in this age of terrorism.

Pay freeze without price freeze is attack on the poor and needy. Look what it did to Egypt and Libya. After attacking wages of main street these same Wisconsin Political figures could gain clout and respect if they are honest enough to attack the earnings and benefits of Political Management and then the earnings of; or should I say the Loot of Wall Street gamblers that are truly bringing down our country, otherwise they will look like a bunch of gangsters themselves doing their greedy deeds. We must remember when Osama bin Laden went to college in American, he immediately went back home and planed an attack on Wall Street not just
American as some think, it was directed at WALL STREET when he did the basement before he went for the top of those towers. Wall Street is like some bad kids in our family and they need butt kicked big time, otherwise picking on the working class amounts to additional gangster-ism.

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valkyrie101 said:
In other words, because you are afraid it is OK to make stuff up or skew the data to support your thesis. The danger level today does not compare with during the sixties and seventies when school children were practicing getting under their desks to kiss their ass goodbye.

And what happened back then when they were practicing getting under their school desk? Thats right, nothing.

What happened recently on the history scale that you claim does not compare in danger levels? Thats right,
9/11.

So today doesn’t match yesterday’s threat levels how?
What info was skewed?
What was made up?
You embarrass yourself how often?