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The View Responds To Last Week’s Bill O’Reilly Kerfuffle

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Because of their talk show’s taping schedule, the ladies of The View couldn’t discuss last week’s dramatic, Bill O’Reilly-inspired walkout on their own program until today. (Joy Behar, though, has already given one response to the incident on her HLN show.)

In case anyone needs a recap: During a heated discussion about the “Ground Zero Mosque,” O’Reilly stated that “70 percent of Americans” don’t want the proposed Park51 complex to be built in lower Manhattan because “Muslims killed us on 9/11.”

Then, as Barbara Walters put it on today’s broadcast, “all heck broke loose.” O’Reilly’s remark prompted shouting and provoked Whoopi Goldberg to say “That is such bullsh**!” before she and co-host Joy Behar stalked off the set.

After the clip of the walkout played, the show’s audience laughed nervously. Behar opened the discussion by defending her actions: “On this show, we always talk about standing up to bigotry. So I stood up.” Her declaration drew applause.

Goldberg, like Behar, stands behind how she reacted to O’Reilly. “I hit my saturation point,” she said—not only because of the Fox News host’s remarks about Muslims, but also because “when Mr. O’Reilly came out, he started with me as soon as he sat down.”

The show’s other two hosts—Sherri Shepherd and Elisabeth Hasselbeck, who both sat frozen on the couch last week when their show erupted around them—also spoke up. Shepherd thinks O’Reilly was knowingly trying to drive up ratings by letting his sparring View hosts get out of control; Hasselbeck noted that she, too, thinks conflating terrorists with ordinary Muslims is a dangerous line of thought.

Then it was Walters’s turn to speak—and the veteran journalist didn’t disappoint. Her response was so well-reasoned and powerful that it deserves to be presented nearly verbatim:

“This is a country that’s full of rage. You just used the word ‘volatile’ yourself. We must be able to have conversations, that means all of us, without fury, without rage, without screaming, without obscenities, without walking off. It’s very dramatic. People love train wrecks—people want us to do more of it because it’s good for the ratings.

“…We are used to Bill O’Reilly. He loves this! He loves to pull your chain. This is just what he wanted. And I do agree that train wrecks make headlines, and I don’t have to tell you the regard that I have for you [to Behar and Goldberg]… Having said that, I think it was the wrong thing to do.”

Listening to Walters makes us feel a little ashamed for spilling so much ink on the walkout. Sure, it’s fun to watch people on TV yell at one another every now and then—but what happens when the media devolves to a point where it’s showing nothing but people yelling?

Video of The View responding to the incident is below.

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  • Big Eddie

    Hope Hillary is paid extra to watch this stuff .

  • Atticus Draco

    Yeah,, i’m so over this,, yesterday’s news!
    you know,, the battle lines were drawn before this incident,,
    and they pretty much remain the same afterwards

  • writer

    For better or worse, differing viewpoints make things more interesting. Olby should keep that in mind the next time he’s considering inviting Markos Moulitsas.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    If women were like this before they got the right to vote, they would have never been granted the right to vote.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    My recollection is that the ladies lost their cool and started in with the interruptions and raised voices, and now Walters blames O’Reilly because he pulled some chains. What O’Reilly said was not in the least over the top, but rather than engage in debate, they chose to let their Fox hatred get the best of them.

    By the way, stuff like this is a cliche example of why people make fun of chicks and their once a month problem.

  • roxsteady

    I still have no idea what that moron Hasselbeck was talking about. Perhaps Mediaite should post the clip of Lawrence O’Donnell schooling this dimwitted bimbo on the fact that no one, including President Obama has declared that we can’t use the word terrorists. Media Matters even posted clips of the President using that word many, many times. It’s clearly more of the bullshit she’s picked up watching fux noise. It was also good of Barbara to explain to O’Reilly that Muslim isn’t a country.

  • Moderate

    “Her declaration drew applause.”

    Wow! That is about as meaningful as a survey conducted with the MSNBC audience.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andy-Lamb/1085325013 Andy Lamb

    Jello Behar said:
    On this show, we always talk about standing up to bigotry. So I stood up.

    Yes, like she did when Bill Maher was on the show mocking Christianity. If laughing and joining in on the mockery counts as standing up.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    gordonbloyershow said:
    If women were like this before they got the right to vote, they would have never been granted the right to vote.

    You sir are an idiot. You prove it everytime you post.

  • roxsteady

    O’Reilly, like some on this site need to understand that the 19 terrorists who attacked us on September 11th are dead and have nothing to do with the people who are building the Community Center in lower Manhattan. Stupid sexist remarks about women who have already reached Menopause have no place in this argument. That means they no longer have a “once a month problem.”

  • Azarkhan

    “the ladies of The View”

    Joy Behar is a lady? The correct word for her starts with “c” and ends with “t”.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    roxsteady said:
    Perhaps Mediaite should post the clip of Lawrence O’Donnell schooling this dimwitted bimbo on the fact that no one, including President Obama has declared that we can’t use the word terrorists

    Totally agree with this.

  • ROCKSTEADY

    Azarkhan said:
    starts with “c” and ends with “t”.

    Takes one to know one eh Azarkhan.

  • bealzebubba

    Walters called it. I get why they walked out, but they shouldn’t have…I think I even said this the other day. Actions like that does nothing for your cause other than creating fodder for the opposition….”see? what I have been telling you all along?” is what the opposition says to it’s audience. Same shit happens in these comment sections of every news website i visit. Backhanded comments..people trying to one-up each other….no dialogue..no actual conversation…just rabbit punches.

    The anonymity of the web emboldens us to mold a persona which we want the world to see.

  • CosmosDan

    roxsteady said:
    I still have no idea what that moron Hasselbeck was talking about.

    I’m not sure what the Obama reference meant but I think the point she made early on is a good one. It we talk of the terrorists , then we’re not constantly attaching the word radical, or extremest to a religion, especially the 9/11 attacks.

    O Rielly was wrong to generalize in the way he did in our present atmosphere, and his WWII analogies that he tried to defend himself with as just added stupidity.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    roxsteady said:
    That means they no longer have a “once a month problem.”

    Doesn’t really matter one way or the other, they’re a bunch of cackling hens that got a little sore, “down there” :)

  • CosmosDan

    bealzebubba said:
    Walters called it. I get why they walked out, but they shouldn’t have…I think I even said this the other day.

    Yep. I think they should have a little more self control but you see Bill bellowing away, and they didn’t show the clip of his smart ass comment to Joy. Barbara was trying to say something and they should have bit their tongues and let her correct ORielly.

  • Oregon Conservative

    gordonbloyershow said:
    If women were like this before they got the right to vote, they would have never been granted the right to vote.

    Gordon you entered King’s territory on this one.

  • http://touchofpolitics.wordpress.com Marla Louise

    What I want to know is how does changing a war against a few hundred nut-job terrorist into a war against all of Islam reduce the size of government and get rid of the deficit? Enquiring minds want to know.

  • Azarkhan

    The perfect country for Joy!

    A man can beat his wife and kids as long as he leaves no physical marks, the United Arab Emirates’ highest court has found.

    The judgment came after a man slapped his wife and kicked and slapped his daughter, according to Abu Dhabi’s The National newspaper.

    In the case debated by the Federal Supreme court, the daughter was bruised on the hand and knee, while the wife’s lip and teeth were injured.

    According to the court, the injuries showed that the man had over-stepped his rights under Shariah, or Islamic law, the newspaper reported. He had originally been fined 500 United Arab Emirates dirhams ($136), but appealed the case twice.

    At 23, the daughter was deemed too old to have been disciplined, the newspaper said.

    According to Shariah law, a man can beat his wife and children as long as he has first tries unsuccessfully to discipline them by admonishing and then abstaining from sexual relations with his wife….

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39718046/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

  • lazzzlo

    Marla Louise said:
    What I want to know is how does changing a war against a few hundred nut-job terrorist into a war against all of Islam reduce the size of government and get rid of the deficit?

    To answer your question…The deficit still exists

  • sarainitaly

    I bet a million bucks had they stayed, and corrected Bill, and said, “you mean Muslim extremists attacked us” he would have said, yes – and they could have moved on.

    “On this show, we always talk about standing up to bigotry. So I stood up.” Stand up my hiney. Joy Behar is a mean and nasty bigot.

  • bealzebubba

    Another question: how does this issue solve the most important problem on the minds of Americans: unemployment.

  • lazzzlo

    The bottom line is “everybody yells @ everybody”, but that is not an answer.

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    Stand up my hiney. Joy Behar is a mean and nasty bigot.

    Yes, principles are offensive to many people, Tumbleweed. As for me, I am most thankful to the Good Ladies on the “View”. I think it is one of the more offensive shows on television, just slightly ahead of Olbermann, which is slighty ahead of Dancing With the Starts, which is slightly ahead of American Idol, which is slightly ahead of that Infomercial with the Old Bag Selling the Food Preserver Bags, which is slightly ahead of Bill-o, which is slightly ahead of Gretchen O’Van Karlsen, Il Douchey and Jetpack Kilmeade, which is slightly ahead of O’Hannity, which is slightly ahead of the Beckerhead, which is slightly ahead of Greta O’Van Susteren. However, the Good Ladies did remind us all of the pervasive stench of intolerance, xenophobia and racism at FOX “News”. And, in the process, they made Jetpack look really stoopyd again.

  • The Real Royal King

    Azarkhan said:
    The perfect country for Joy!–A man can beat his wife and kids as long as he leaves no physical marks, the United Arab Emirates’ highest court has found. The judgment came after a man slapped his wife and kicked and slapped his daughter, according to Abu Dhabi’s The National newspaper. In the case debated by the Federal Supreme court, the daughter was bruised on the hand and knee, while the wife’s lip and teeth were injured. According to the court, the injuries showed that the man had over-stepped his rights under Shariah, or Islamic law, the newspaper reported. He had originally been fined 500 United Arab Emirates dirhams ($136), but appealed the case twice. At 23, the daughter was deemed too old to have been disciplined, the newspaper said. According to Shariah law, a man can beat his wife and children as long as he has first tries unsuccessfully to discipline them by admonishing and then abstaining from sexual relations with his wife…. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39718046/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

    On another thread, I pointed out just how much this is like Bill-o with the abduction and detention of Sean Hornbeck and the rape and murder of Jennifer Moore.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Joy, contending that Catholic saints were all mentally ill. I wonder how she’d feel about dumping on the Mo Man like this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OhlIC1M818

  • Dave Richards

    The Real Royal King said:
    On another thread, I pointed out just how much this is like Bill-o with the abduction and detention of Sean Hornbeck and the rape and murder of Jennifer Moore.

    You are just another liberal with serious comprehension problems. You miss the class in critical thinking?

  • TeaPartyPatriot

    WRONG title for this article: “The View Responds To Last Week’s Bill O’Reilly Kerfuffle”
    CORRECT title for this article: “The lunatic-left of the view continue to bash oreilly behind his back, since they can’t win ANY argument with him face-to-face”.

  • Azarkhan

    The Real Royal King said:
    On another thread, I pointed out just how much this is like Bill-o with the abduction and detention of Sean Hornbeck and the rape and murder of Jennifer Moore.

    Sorry King. I don’t read all your comments. If I did, I might become as stupid as you are.

  • NORBIT

    The Blood of Chandra Levy is on the hands of LaRaza, and all the Democrats – starting with the people in this Administration – supporting Open Borders Anarchy!

  • sarainitaly

    Behar Ridicules Christians, Insists She Doesn’t Ridicule Christians
    http://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/articles/2010/20100716153116.aspx

    Hypocrite Joy Behar Defends Islam But Has a Long History of Bashing Christians
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-j4iT-6N4&feature=player_embedded

    Brent Bozell Blasts ‘Anti-Catholic Bigot’ Joy Behar
    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2009/05/08/mrc-tv-brent-bozell-blasts-anti-catholic-bigot-joy-behar

  • NORBIT

    BayWhore (monicker approved by Jerry Brown & N.O.W.) is a Christian-Hating Bigot of the First Order, like most of her Democratic colleagues.

    Real Christians D’ONT Vote for Democrats!

  • Hugo Daun

    One can only imagine what O’Reilly thinks “kerfuffle” means…

  • The Real Royal King

    sarainitaly said:
    Behar Ridicules Christians, Insists She Doesn’t Ridicule Christianshttp://www.cultureandmediainstitute.org/articles/2010/20100716153116.aspx Hypocrite Joy Behar Defends Islam But Has a Long History of Bashing Christianshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG-j4iT-6N4&feature=player_embedded Brent Bozell Blasts ‘Anti-Catholic Bigot’ Joy Beharhttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2009/05/08/mrc-tv-brent-bozell-blasts-anti-catholic-bigot-joy-behar

    Congratulations on your hard work in loading that Kart of Krap!

    We have a Bozell arm quoting Stephen Baldwin about his opinion of Ms. Behar.

    We have the sexual deviant, misogynist and xenophobe Bill-o speaking with the shrill and insufferable Eggsandham about their opinion of Ms. Behar.

    Then we have the rightist shill and charlatan Bozell giving his opinion of Ms. Behar.

    Not a fact anywhere.

    You and your corrupt and compromised sources to support your extreme right positions.

    Tumbleweed, I might have expected more from you.

  • The Real Royal King

    Hugo Daun said:
    One can only imagine what O’Reilly thinks “kerfuffle” means…

    Presumably, it is abrasive and used with water?

  • Hugo Daun

    The Real Royal King said:
    Presumably, it is abrasive and used with water?

    Or, perhaps a delicious Middle Eastern snack.

  • dummy123

    That “Stand up” and waddle off was fun to watch.

  • rocky road

    Behar is a vile, hypocrite. She stands up to bigotry as long as it’s not her bigotry of christians, convervative women and republicans. She is a hater and barbara walters has lost all credibility by allowing this on her show. Once the View is off the air, Behar can get a job on MSNBC. HLN should fire her ass for being a hateful moron.

  • CosmosDan

    sarainitaly said:
    I bet a million bucks had they stayed, and corrected Bill, and said, “you mean Muslim extremists attacked us” he would have said, yes – and they could have moved on.

    “On this show, we always talk about standing up to bigotry. So I stood up.” Stand up my hiney. Joy Behar is a mean and nasty bigot.

    You just saved a million because I believe Barbara did correct him and he agreed with her. Then he tried to get more mileage out it by using a ridiculous WWII analogy. I agree with Barbara that they shouldn’t got so pissed they walked out. Better for them to not let Orielly be the blowhard and push their buttons.

  • michiganruth

    sarainitaly said:
    I bet a million bucks had they stayed, and corrected Bill, and said, “you mean Muslim extremists attacked us” he would have said, yes – and they could have moved on.

    “On this show, we always talk about standing up to bigotry. So I stood up.” Stand up my hiney. Joy Behar is a mean and nasty bigot.

    you are precisely right. the whole thing happened because O’Reilly forgot to say “terrorist” along with “Muslim.” it’s a kind of shorthand that, as O’Reilly himself pointed out, he thought he could use because EVERYBODY KNOWS IT WAS TERRORISTS, and he felt he didn’t have to keep saying it.

    the inappropriately named Joy and Whoopi–I’ve never seen such vitriolic bitches in my life–wanted to cause a fuss, and they did. again, it amazes me how much the left loves Islam. it seems to be the only religion they has any regard for at all.

  • Dem4Ever

    When those two walked off the stage why did they have to return?  Why couldn’t they just keep walking?

  • TfT

    Gosh, last time O’Reilly was on the view, his ratings sky rocketed. I wonder what the ladies on the view talking about O’Reilly will do for his ratings tonight? I guess we’ll see tomorrow.

  • Big_F-ing_Deal

    Dayam, Walters is the one who came out the big winner on this. I never gave her much thought but now I have a new-found respect for her.

  • JamesA1102

    sarainitaly said:
    Joy Behar is a mean and nasty bigot.

    That’s the pot calling the kettle black, Sara (who loves America so much she lives in a foreign country where she benefits from government healthcare).

  • BlackWidow

    This site is full of :mean and nasty bigots. Both male and female mean and nasty bigots. I love coming here and getting my daily does of laughs!

  • BlackWidow

    The Real Royal King said:
    Congratulations on your hard work in loading that Kart of Krap! We have a Bozell arm quoting Stephen Baldwin about his opinion of Ms. Behar. We have the sexual deviant, misogynist and xenophobe Bill-o speaking with the shrill and insufferable Eggsandham about their opinion of Ms. Behar. Then we have the rightist shill and charlatan Bozell giving his opinion of Ms. Behar. Not a fact anywhere. You and your corrupt and compromised sources to support your extreme right positions. Tumbleweed, I might have expected more from you.

    I love your sense of humor especially the names you come up with for the whack-jobs on here. Keep up the good work!

  • NORBIT

    LOL!

    Hey American Public, hear the latest message from your President?

    He says you’re too scared & stupid to understand science & facts!!

    On 11-02-10, make sure you send a message of your own to this Arrogant Egomaniac!!!

  • notsofast

    Thanks BW for scolding these two lib truants. It so funny to hear Joy talk about bigots when she is one herself who does nothing but spew her hate and then needs to apologize the next day saying “it was just a joke.”

    And both Whoopi anf Bewhore always have their “I just bit into a lemon” face own when a conservative is on the show, so tell ‘em to knock it off or get off the stage when a conservative is on.

  • notsofast

    BlackWidow said:
    I love your sense of humor especially the names you come up with for the whack-jobs on here. Keep up the good work!

    You and he ARE whack-jobs on here!!!!

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    Tumbleweed, I might have expected more from you.

    But we can always expect less from you.

  • CosmosDan

    michiganruth said:
    the inappropriately named Joy and Whoopi–I’ve never seen such vitriolic bitches in my life–wanted to cause a fuss, and they did. again, it amazes me how much the left loves Islam. it seems to be the only religion they has any regard for at all.

    So the guy who carelessly associates 1.5 billion people with a hand full of terrorists is correct, while Joy and Whoopi are vitriolic bitches? Stop with the silly generalizations. There are lots of liberal Christians and believers of all types. Defending decency is not favoring one religion.

  • notsofast

    Andy Lamb said:
    Jello Behar said:
    On this show, we always talk about standing up to bigotry. So I stood up.

    Yeah, Joy and if Barbara,Sherri and Elizabeth followed your advise, they would be walking off everyday after you opened your mouth.

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    Yeah, Joy and if Barbara,Sherri and Elizabeth followed your advise, they would be walking off everyday after you opened your mouth.

    I’ve seen greater wit scratched onto condom machines.

  • http://touchofpolitics.wordpress.com Marla Louise

    bealzebubba said:
    Another question: how does this issue solve the most important problem on the minds of Americans: unemployment.

    I guess the logic is if enough hate and fear can be generated, a major war will be started between the United States and all of Islam (approx 1.5 billion people), thus stripping the US of military age workers and reducing unemployment. And incidentally putting a nice profit in the coffers of the military-industrial complex.

    What it will do to the size of the US government, the US budget, our economy, taxes and our constitutional freedoms apparently is not relevant. It certainly was not relevant last time.

    I think Eisenhower was right.

  • bealzebubba

    And then we’ll really be like China.

    That and the same can be said about homeland security…..post 9-11, the economy started going into the tank…he said they’d create new jobs…they did, in the form of government jobs…government jobs occupied by people who aren’t worth the sweat off of my back if I had to run from them.

    My point is that I’ve been hearing lots of bickering going on back and forth over the past few months…the right blaming the left for further unemployment and deficits – the left blaming the right for obstructionism and…back and forth.

    It’s just like watching two teen-aged girls arguing after school….but not nearly a productive.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    I’ve seen greater wit scratched onto condom machines.

    Yes, I’m sure you are often in the Mens Room. On your knees!

  • CAconservative

    The simple truth is, they asked the question and when O’Reilly tried to answer, they looked for, and found a politically-incorrect statement to attack and feign indignation at because neither of them, or as a team can intellectually argue with him. Their little girly-hissy fit was nothing more than juvenile. If ever there was justification for not watching the twit-sister act on the View, this is it.

  • liquidassets

    Mediaite, I hope your remorse and shame at the end was genuine. If not, you’re just as bad as the media that you claim to monitor, and I’ll be tuning you out soon like I did them…..

  • http://none pyrope

    roxsteady said:
    O’Reilly, like some on this site need to understand that the 19 terrorists who attacked us on September 11th are dead and have nothing to do with the people who are building the Community Center in lower Manhattan. Stupid sexist remarks about women who have already reached Menopause have no place in this argument. That means they no longer have a “once a month problem.”

    What about the several million who are still alive? What about the families of the survivors; don’t their feelings count?

    As for the so-called “ladies” on the view, they know they were bested, they know their remarks and behavior will never stand a chance in the light of objective scrutiny, yet they’re trying to rewrite the history of the event. Both Medialite and the hogs on the view should lay down their clubs…the horse is dead.

  • http://none pyrope

    Marla Louise said:
    I think Eisenhower was right.

    I think you make some fair points.

    Early on, I supported our military actions in the Middle East; having had access to some information about the Hussein regime that was not made public, I am one who shall forever remain convinced that taking out Hussein was the right thing to do. That said, the US mission of what is tantamount to “nation building” is quite another matter.

    While it is good to have a platform in the northern part of the Middle East from where the US might conduct a strategic initiative might be launched (if ever necessary), and having a friendly nation from which the US can purchase oil (a commodity that is crucially essential to our economy, whether or not ANYONE else want to admit it), we must admit that some people just do not want a nation such as ours. It is painful to think that once the people of Iraq have tasted individual liberties that they would ever go back to what will likely be the same kind of rule as they’ve had for millenea.

    And the same is true of the people of Afghanistan! (Pakistan is not significantly better!) The tribal feuds in that country have been going on for almost as long as have those in Iraq. (See A. Leo Oppenheim’s “Ancient Mesoptamia–Portrait of a Dead Civilization,” or some of Noah Kramer’s works, e.g. “History Begins at Sumer”.)

    I don’t know how to explain why some people crave liberty and some do not unless it’s a “genetic thing,” but I do know that the lives and limbs of the best and brightest from the United States, as well as our fortune, is misspent on those who are locked into their backward thinking. (We could have taken a lesson from Vietnam, but we Americans never seem to learn.)

    Those in the Middle East who have been blessed enough to crave freedom will leave (or have already left) of their own volition–others will die trying to do so, but a lot of people died trying to secure freedom in the United States–the best country that has ever existed on the face of the Earth.

    Had the leadership of the United States (both George W Bush and Barack -0bama) had the proper focus on the real mission–to destroy al Qaeda, and the numerous other terrorist groups operating from the Middle East–I would have been happy to support an expedient dispatch of these enemies (see “The Art of War” Sun Tzu), but instead, their actions have served to sacrifice the blood of our patriots, and a good deal of our fortune. Yet Bush and -0bama are not entirely to blame–previous occupants of the White House ignored the obvious and postponed the inevitable. There is PLENTY of blame to go around, and I would be extremely remiss if I failed to mention the gross and serial failures of the United Nations!

    There is more to this story–this dilemma–and that is the question of a nuclear armed Iran, Pakistan, and quite possibly Syria. (Yeah, I know, no one is talking about Syria, but they will be soon enough.) But, back to your point about the Military Industrial Complex: It’s a “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” situation. Given the mindset of people like Kim Jong Il and Mahmoud Amadinejad, it remains impearative to always be able to negotiate from a position of strength.

    So, this begs the question, can we not see a necessity for a strong defense? I believe we would be fooling ourselves if we did not. Yet, how much is enough? That answer is more obvious than one might think: just enough to keep every newly arising threats at bay and always be able to intimidate any bully or tin-horn dictator.

  • Nahu Tuk

    pyrope said:
    That answer is more obvious than one might think: just enough to keep every newly arising threats at bay and always be able to intimidate any bully or tin-horn dictator.

    You might be right there. It looks as though there will always be some individual or group who wants to kill another individual or group until the human race either anihilates itself or evolves to its next higher form.

  • CosmosDan

    pyrope said:
    What about the several million who are still alive? What about the families of the survivors; don’t their feelings count?

    Just to be clear, there were several families who did indeed support the Mosque as a matter of healing and on the basic principles of freedom in the US.

    People keep repeating that the families of 9/11 victims didn’t want it there and that is a very incomplete and misleading statement.

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