Good for them. Let’s end xenophobia now!

More Thin Skinned leftism.

They are taking their cues from the President.

Why is this show even still on?

“walked off the set in protest”

Thats nice spin. In reality, they took their ball and went home. This is exactly the same sort of reaction we saw from Bill Maher, when his panel disagreed with him and religion and he told them “fuck you”. Its all about many Liberals who have no tolerance or rational responses to people they disagree with.

The Real Royal King said:
Good for them. Let’s end xenophobia now!

Good point. We should never question anything.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Why is this show even still on?

For the pleasure of turning it off.

Dronetek said:
Thats nice spin. In reality, they took their ball and went home. This is exactly the same sort of reaction we saw from Bill Maher, when his panel disagreed with him and religion and he told them “fuck you”. Its all about many Liberals who have no tolerance or rational responses to people they disagree with.

Excellent point. Many liberals are VERY intolerant of other views.

Walking away because someone didn’t back up when they demanded it. Very professional. And mature.

It’s a well known tactic. The King frequently walks off when asked to provide facts.

This makes me long for Star Jones and Meredith Viera. The show was never “good”, but at least it was tolerable when Jones and Viera were on – especially with Viera as the moderator. Why? Because Viera at least played the role as moderator straight, and not for laughs, as Whoopi does, with almost every story.

The show has never been politically balanced, but it’s nothing short of a in-kind contribution to the DNC every day, with 4 devout liberals vs. one intellectually challenged conservative. If ABC had any intention of producing an earnest and engaging show, they’d replace Whoopi with someone who can actually read a teleprompter and facilitate discussion, and they’d replace Hasselback with one of the many capable and articulate conservative women who are available.

Woopie is a complete hypocrite anyway. She was on Morning Joe the other day, decrying the “decline of civility”, when the fact is she’s a big part of that lack of civility. The woman spews hatred on a regular basis, but its left wing hatred so it gets a pass.

and that’s the response that you will get from most liberals who don’t want to hear a view contrary to their own. Whoopi and Behar are two of the most ignorant women that have ever walked the face of the earth and yet they are the face of the liberal left. those two alone are the exact reason why liberalism is such a dirty word and why most politicians run away from being associated with it.

This was a complete tail-tuck and run on the part of Whoopi and Joy.

“Oh, well how DARE you use the American people against us! We’re right no matter what they say goddammit!”

The McVeigh argument is such a red-herring. McVeigh was a Christian (presumably, I’ve never seen any evidence of his religious beliefs) who killed a lot of people. He didn’t kill people IN THE NAME OF his (presumed) religion. The 9/11 hijackers did what they did in the name of Allah, literally yelling Allahu Akbar as they drove the planes into the buildings.

And if Whoopi really believes that everything you have the right to do under the First Amendment is beyond reproach, then how would she feel if the KKK opened a recruitment center across the street from the Lorraine Motel? The KKK has the right to do so, if they choose, but everyone would agree that it is in bad taste and ought to be condemned, even if it can’t be legally prohibited.

stormin1961 said:
and that’s the response that you will get from most liberals who don’t want to hear a view contrary to their own. Whoopi and Behar are two of the most ignorant women that have ever walked the face of the earth and yet they are the face of the liberal left. those two alone are the exact reason why liberalism is such a dirty word and why most politicians run away from being associated with it.

When you don’t have anything to debate and after all the racist and class warfare arguments don’t work that is what progressives do.

Dronetek said:
“walked off the set in protest”

Thats nice spin. In reality, they took their ball and went home. This is exactly the same sort of reaction we saw from Bill Maher, when his panel disagreed with him and religion and he told them “fuck you”. Its all about many Liberals who have no tolerance or rational responses to people they disagree with.

That’s a misrepresentation of what happened, Did you actually see the show or just watch a clip on some blog?

AnonymousFinch said:
The McVeigh argument is such a red-herring. McVeigh was a Christian (presumably, I’ve never seen any evidence of his religious beliefs).

He was Agnostic actually. He was raised Catholic, but renounced the religion as an adult.

CosmosDan said:
That’s a misrepresentation of what happened, Did you actually see the show or just watch a clip on some blog?

I watched it. I have my own site and record clips from all the left wing networks.

I think that Behar and Goldberg walked off because it’s impossible to explain to people that just because a majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group doesn’t mean it should be done. If every decision in America was based on popular opinion a lot of us would have no rights.

Which biblical teachings or Christian doctrine did McVeigh (or Nichols) cite to justify his actions?

None that I’m aware of.

What church or religious leader justified what he did?

None that I know of.

The only public person that I know of who has praised McVeigh for his actions is Gore Vidal. Vidal calls McVeigh a “patriot” for his act.

It’s a bankrupt analogy.

There is a huge problem with some followers of Islam using the Koran and other Islamic teachings to justify the murder of non-believers. No, most Muslims are not in that group. But there’s a sizeable sub-group that is.

I wish it weren’t so. But wishing is for children.

AnonymousFinch said:
McVeigh was a Christian (presumably, I’ve never seen any evidence of his religious beliefs) who killed a lot of people

McVeigh was not a Christian. In the Book “American Terrorist”, the authors describe McVeigh as an agnostic, and they offer several pieces of evidence to support such a conclusion, not the least of which is a letter that McVeigh wrote to his parents (he was raised a Catholic) where he says that science was his religion, and other items that support the claim that McVeigh didn’t believe in Hell – hardly the beliefs of any Christian.

I wonder if they pro-rate their pay for taking a break. The stacked audience was against them too. I guess they just needed some quiet time.
They need to bring Alvin Greene on as a guest, now that would be entertainment.

Republitarian said:
and they’d replace Hasselback

Are you kidding? She’s the only good looking woman on the show.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Nrbfmb2CFWY/SCQ65zCA4mI/AAAAAAAAA4k/HiAcaYjtQRk/s1600/71-

I loved watching those two fat-assed race-baiting libs walk off only to have Barbara blast them for doing so! So funny that Colby was to afraid to leave what Barbara said in the clip.

Great job, Bill! Congrats!

Azarkhan said:
Are you kidding? She’s the only good looking woman on the show.

She is easy on the eyes, but she’s equally hard on the ears. It’s painful. They’d do so much better with someone like Monica Crowley on that set.

Azarkhan said:
Are you kidding? She’s the only good looking woman on the show.

She is the only WOMAN on the show!

I guess we can add misogynist to Oreilly’s long racial history.

Let’s end xenophobia now!

Yes, stop these White House attacks on unnamed foreigners who are allegedly buying our democracy!!

It’s nativist scaremongering.

That what you mean?

I say good for Whoopi & Joy standing up to bloviator O’Reilly, but you wonder if it was not just a set up for publicity. I wouldn’t put it past O’Reilly or The View, they both love their publicity. I hate to have grown so cynical, but I question most things I see on TV anymore as stunts to get ratings. I think Joy & Whoopi honestly feel that way, but a little ink on the internet & tabloid shows never hurts, O’Reilly seems to have lost some of his power on Fox, even though he boasts about being #1!!

To bad they just got mad instead of having the ammo to point out where ORielly is wrong. Whoopie started to by pointing out Muslim American’s also died in that attack. His condescending remark to Behar was kinda a dick thing to do even as a joke. Think he’s a bit of a chauvinist?

What a joke! Are they ever offended on behalf of all the women abused by Islam? No. They just ignore honor killings, stonings, and denial of rights of women around the world. Yet just because Bill didn’t say “radical” before “Muslim” they walk off.

Shame on them.

SteveMG said:
Which biblical teachings or Christian doctrine did McVeigh (or Nichols) cite to justify his actions?

None that I’m aware of.

What church or religious leader justified what he did?

None that I know of.

The only public person that I know of who has praised McVeigh for his actions is Gore Vidal. Vidal calls McVeigh a “patriot” for his act.

It’s a bankrupt analogy.

There is a huge problem with some followers of Islam using the Koran and other Islamic teachings to justify the murder of non-believers. No, most Muslims are not in that group. But there’s a sizeable sub-group that is.

I wish it weren’t so. But wishing is for children.

They only get away with it, because nobody is going to call them on it. They know the MSM is in their corner and will help perpetuate the lie.

LMAO!!

Was that a trash bag Boarwhore was wearing ?!

Dronetek said:
I watched it. I have my own site and record clips from all the left wing networks.

Maybe I’m thinking of a different clip. Do you remember the guest’s name. The one I’m thinking of was a few years ago.

Republitarian said:
McVeigh was not a Christian. In the Book “American Terrorist”, the authors describe McVeigh as an agnostic, and they offer several pieces of evidence to support such a conclusion, not the least of which is a letter that McVeigh wrote to his parents (he was raised a Catholic) where he says that science was his religion, and other items that support the claim that McVeigh didn’t believe in Hell – hardly the beliefs of any Christian.

Excellent! That’s for that info. Very useful.

After they left, Whoopie and Joy threw themselves on the backstage floor, kicking their legs and pounding their dainty fists, while sobbing uncontrollably.

When a stagehand offered them kleenex, they sat up, dried their tears, and then reapplied each others’ lipstick.

J Danielle said:
I think that Behar and Goldberg walked off because it’s impossible to explain to people that just because a majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group doesn’t mean it should be done. If every decision in America was based on popular opinion a lot of us would have no rights.

nobody is advocating discrimination against Muslims. they can build their Mosque anywhere else that they chose and I will happily support it, but to place a Mosque under the shadow of Ground Zero is nothing but a poke-in-the-eye or victory lap to the victims of 9/11 and we all know it.

Saying that a “majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group” is untrue and unfair. Asking someone to respect the feelings of 9-11 families and most Americans is not discrimination and it’s shameful to say that. It diminishes true discrimination.

murf said:
Was that a trash bag Boarwhore was wearing ?!

Yes, that’s because she is trash!

I’ve only seen the above clip, but I’m going to guess that he was on at Barbara’s behest and though none of this has anything to do with the substance and should not reflect upon the man, I’d like to file the following critique;

O’Reilly seemed over-caffeinated. He was much too bombastic for morning television and more hyper than I’ve seen him on any other show.

He was also rude to Joy. She’s not Jon Stewart and he was a guest on her show.

And finally, I’m sure the seat was short and he mostly works at a desk or a table, but he really needs to work on his wide stance. The yellow couch made it far too distracting.

Otherwise, if you missed the full segment as I did, full episodes are uploaded to Hulu, I believe late in the day and sometimes, they’ll go ahead and pre-release a full clip.

Reminiscent of Shirley Temple, clenching her little fists and sticking out her lower lip. Adorable.

Magister said:
He was also rude to Joy.

Joy is rude to every conservative that appears on that show and is a hate-monger so go cry me a river.

CosmosDan said:
Maybe I’m thinking of a different clip. Do you remember the guest’s name. The one I’m thinking of was a few years ago.

No, the one I’m talking about was like 2 days ago.

More Liberty said:
Excellent point. Many liberals are VERY intolerant of other views.

I quite agree. How could they be so intolerant of O’Reilly’s claim that we should not tolerate a religious community center near Ground Zero?

CosmosDan said:
To bad they just got mad instead of having the ammo to point out where ORielly is wrong. Whoopie started to by pointing out Muslim American’s also died in that attack. His condescending remark to Behar was kinda a dick thing to do even as a joke. Think he’s a bit of a chauvinist?

The fact that Muslims died in the attack doesn’t mean anything, as Muslim extremist terrorists regularly kill and violently suppress Muslims in their own countries. And it would have been just a joke if he had directed it at anyone other than Behar. But because it’s actually true in her case, it’s kind of like picking on the retarded kid, which is a dick move. But does this show him to be a chauvinist? No. He’s that condescending on his show to almost everyone nightly.

CosmosDan said:
Maybe I’m thinking of a different clip. Do you remember the guest’s name. The one I’m thinking of was a few years ago.

I wish we could edit these posts.

Here is the interview I’m talking about:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/12/whoopi-decries-decline-civility-told-mosque-protesters-kiss-my-but

Marla Louise said:
How could they be so intolerant of O’Reilly’s claim that we should not tolerate a religious community center near Ground Zero?

Because they already have over 100 mosques in NYC already and one is not needed near GZ.

The Real Royal King said:
Good for them. Let’s end xenophobia now!

Can we end oikophobia from the left?

I am so amused that the only religion that libs will support is the one that is currently killing people in the name of their religion.

Ahhhhhhh, libs!

At least they aren’t perpetuating the stereotype that women are thin-skinned and too emotional. What a bunch of morons, O’Reilly is right and EVERYONE has seen the polls where 65-70% of the country doesn’t want the mosque there. I love how Islam is considered such a peaceful religion, but nobody can come up with any evidence of this. Give us a year without terrorist attacks in the name of Allah and maybe then people will take Islam seriously.

The two clowns ran bag on the set when they heard the boss chew em out. They don’t want to lose those easy paychecks. Barbara says JUMP those two are moving all 250lbs up as far as they can

Good Lord. Who can hear anything that’s being said? They all yell over each other like a bunch of little kids. Totally unwatchable. And while I don’t share most of Bill O’s opinions, walking off the set is amateur and unprofessional.

stormin1961 said:
nobody is advocating discrimination against Muslims. they can build their Mosque anywhere else that they chose and I will happily support it, but to place a Mosque under the shadow of Ground Zero is nothing but a poke-in-the-eye or victory lap to the victims of 9/11 and we all know it.

No, we all don’t. These are American citizens who have nothing to do with 9/11 wanting to build a community center. Muslim Americans died on 9/11 and have died serving in our military. The only poke in the eye or victory lap is in the imagination of people who have been whipped into it.

In a nations whose founding principle is religious freedom, it’s sad to make an association out of bigotry and call it anything like patriotism.

CosmosDan said:
His condescending remark to Behar was kinda a dick thing to do even as a joke.

Probably the only one she’s seen in a while.

CosmosDan said:
No, we all don’t. These are American citizens who have nothing to do with 9/11 wanting to build a community center. Muslim Americans died on 9/11 and have died serving in our military. The only poke in the eye or victory lap is in the imagination of people who have been whipped into it.

In a nations whose founding principle is religious freedom, it’s sad to make an association out of bigotry and call it anything like patriotism.

When the founding fathers, founded this country, they didn’t ever think that religions like Islam would brainwash people into thinking that if you martyr yourself you will go to heaven. Anyone who is not a muslim is considered an infidel and we all know what the koran says about infidels, however some of us choose to ignore those facts.

notsofast said:
I am so amused that the only religion that libs will support is the one that is currently killing people in the name of their religion.

Ahhhhhhh, libs!

Its simply popular to be pro-Muslim now.

notsofast said:
Because they already have over 100 mosques in NYC already and one is not needed near GZ.

That’s not something you get to decide. The local community had already approved it before the fear mongers decided to make it a a national issue.

Joy Behar – pinhead

Magister said:

O’Reilly seemed over-caffeinated. He was much too bombastic for morning television and more hyper than I’ve seen him on any other show.

Its called playing to the audience.

Instead of trying to “build bridges” with a 100 million dollar mosque, how about you take that money and pay “peaceful and mainstream” muslims to travel around the world to teach the “radicals” to act like humans. This includes treating women like equals and not stoning your family members to death for being seen touching a non-muslim in public.

Phil Bourekas said:
Can we end oikophobia from the left?

Yes-get rid of the oiks! Thanks for bringing that up. Think about leftists like Maureen Dowd, Paul Krugman, or the entire Mediaite staff. Here are some excerpts from a WSJ article–

…The British philosopher Roger Scruton has coined a term to describe this attitude: oikophobia. Xenophobia is fear of the alien; oikophobia is fear of the familiar: “the disposition, in any conflict, to side with ‘them’ against ‘us’, and the felt need to denigrate the customs, culture and institutions that are identifiably ‘ours.’ ” What a perfect description of the pro-mosque left.

The oik repudiates national loyalties and defines his goals and ideals against the nation, promoting transnational institutions over national governments, accepting and endorsing laws that are imposed on us from on high by the EU or the UN…and defining his political vision in terms of universal values that have been purified of all reference to the particular attachments of a real historical community.

The oik is, in his own eyes, a defender of enlightened universalism against local chauvinism…

There is one important difference between the American oik and his European counterpart. American patriotism is not a blood-and-soil nationalism but an allegiance to a country based in an idea of enlightened universalism. Thus our oiks masquerade as–and may even believe themselves to be–superpatriots, more loyal to American principles than the vast majority of Americans, whom they denounce as “un-American” for feeling an attachment to their actual country as opposed to a collection of abstractions.

Yet the oiks’ vision of themselves as an intellectual aristocracy violates the first American principle ever articulated: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal . . .”

This cannot be reconciled with the elitist notion that most men are economically insecure bitter clinging intolerant bigots who need to be governed by an educated elite. Marxism Lite is not only false; it is, according to the American creed, self-evidently false. That is why the liberal elite finds Americans revolting….

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704147804575455523068802824.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion

notsofast said:
I am so amused that the only religion that libs will support is the one that is currently killing people in the name of their religion.

Ahhhhhhh, libs!

That’s the irony of the modern Left. When you have a little old grandmother from the suburbs drives into town on April 15th to attend a tea Party rally, the liberlas fear her as a violent racist who is ready to explode as any moment. But when you have a religion of more than a billion people, and approximately 1/3 of them subscribe to the most violent version of it, the libs see no problems.

espo222 said:
Instead of trying to “build bridges” with a 100 million dollar mosque, how about you take that money and pay “peaceful and mainstream” muslims to travel around the world to teach the “radicals” to act like humans. This includes treating women like equals and not stoning your family members to death for being seen touching a non-muslim in public.

Simple: “peaceful and mainstream” Muslims don’t want to be slowly be-headed.

CosmosDan said:
That’s not something you get to decide. The local community had already approved it before the fear mongers decided to make it a a national issue.

That is something YOU don’t decide; it’s called the 1st. amendment until libs like YOU don’t like what the people are saying.

Rogue-Comic said:
Its simply popular to be pro-Muslim now.

No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

AnonymousFinch said:
That’s the irony of the modern Left. When you have a little old grandmother from the suburbs drives into town on April 15th to attend a tea Party rally, the liberlas fear her as a violent racist who is ready to explode as any moment. But when you have a religion of more than a billion people, and approximately 1/3 of them subscribe to the most violent version of it, the libs see no problems.

There is no real morality and logic in modern political ideology. Its all just “talking points.”

notsofast said:
No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

Only at the edge’s of the wing.

Kathleen McKinley said:
Saying that a “majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group” is untrue and unfair. Asking someone to respect the feelings of 9-11 families and most Americans is not discrimination and it’s shameful to say that. It diminishes true discrimination.

It really wasn’t about 9/11 families. Not all the families felt that way, especially the families of Muslims. Making a connection between American citizens who happen to be Muslim, and Muslim extremists , can only be defined as bigotry, no matter how many times anyone tries to paint it as “sensitivity”

think of any example where an entire group is associated and blamed for the actions of a few and what else can you call it?

notsofast said:
No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

Untrue. One of the beneficial aspects of the Tea Partiers’ intolerance is a renewed thirst for tolerance among normal Americans.

Oh, and Colby, this is the part you left out:

“The View” co-host Barbara Walters immediately apologized to the audience and O’Reilly, saying “I want to say something. I want to say something to all of you. You have just seen what should not happen. We should be able to have discussions without washing our hands and screaming and walking offstage. I love my colleagues. It should not have happened.”

The Real Royal King said:
Untrue. One of the beneficial aspects of the Tea Partiers’ intolerance is a renewed thirst for tolerance among normal Americans.

Because there no moderate tea party members, right?

No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

I’m not sure if it’s more popular. But it’s certainly more politically correct.

Dronetek said:
“walked off the set in protest” Thats nice spin. In reality, they took their ball and went home. This is exactly the same sort of reaction we saw from Bill Maher, when his panel disagreed with him and religion and he told them “fuck you”. Its all about many Liberals who have no tolerance or rational responses to people they disagree with.

Modern Liberalism/Progressivism is not rooted in seeking the truth so they literally can’t handle the truth. Their only response is to ridicule or run away.

notsofast said:
That is something YOU don’t decide; it’s called the 1st. amendment until libs like YOU don’t like what the people are saying.

You’re right. You get to say as many obviously incorrect things your hands can type. I wasn’t tying to suppress free speech. I was only saying that the people that live there get a say in what’s needed, or allowed and what you or I think about the number of mosque’s there are in NYC is irrelevant.

notsofast said:
No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

actually a lot of Christians are liberals.

CosmosDan said:
what you or I think about the number of mosque’s there are in NYC is irrelevant.

You are half right; you are irrelevant!

Bill Mahwer said:
More Thin Skinned leftism.

They are taking their cues from the President.

1) Community Center and 2) Burlington Coat Factory. Why didn’t someone hit Bill over the head with the truth and call him out for doing what Fox does – lie and distort in a political effort to smear their enemies in hate and fear campaigns. Simple and Truth to Ignorance. I live in NY – I’d rather “have a real Mosque there” than the News Corp. Ministry of lies on 6th Avenue and 47th!!

CosmosDan said:
actually a lot of Christians are liberals.

Wrong! A lot of libs are Christians.

Thanks ever so much for that clarification, Nutso. I’m not at all sure it goes to motivation, but at least it wasn’t a long post.

For my part, I don’t like the cheap theatrics. By the same token, I am tired of Bill-o’s xenophobic rantings. If all of these people walked out permanently, left the studio and headed straight for the old folks’ home, I shouldn’t required a tissue.

writer said:
No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

I’m not sure if it’s more popular. But it’s certainly more politically correct.

Republican have “hi-jacked” Christianity as some divine provenance to America. All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.

Rogue-Comic said:
Because there no moderate tea party members, right?

Right.

There is not a backlash against Islam because people simply don’t like freedom of religion, there are a lot of reasons that people really fear Islam. I like how Whoopi brought up Timothy McVeigh when talking about Christians. He didn’t kill anyone in the name of Jesus, he was a nut. Every few years a Christian nutjob kills an abortion doctor in the name of Jesus. Since 9/11, there have been over 20,000 documented attacks on American interests in the name of Islam and none in the name of Christianity.

The Real Royal King said:
I am tired of Bill-o’s xenophobic rantings.

But it was the libs and you who didn’t like the Saudi’s owning stock in Newscorp.

Talk about Xenophobia!

AnonymousFinch said:
That’s the irony of the modern Left. When you have a little old grandmother from the suburbs drives into town on April 15th to attend a tea Party rally, the liberlas fear her as a violent racist who is ready to explode as any moment. But when you have a religion of more than a billion people, and approximately 1/3 of them subscribe to the most violent version of it, the libs see no problems.

That’s quite an overstatement. Maybe some people just want American citizens to be treated equally, even if they happen to be Muslims. Maybe it’s an attempt to live up to the principles that are so often talked about.

I wonder how Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg would feel if the Westboro Bapist Church wrer to bild a community center in there neighborhood?

You think they might protest a little.

The Real Royal King said:
Untrue. One of the beneficial aspects of the Tea Partiers’ intolerance is a renewed thirst for tolerance among normal Americans.

There are no benefits to the Tea Party – wait, I misspoke – there is one benefit – they make it simply easier to tell how extremely right-wing and unqualified one is.

James Gregory Backus said:
All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.</blockquote

notsofast said:
No, it’s more popular to be anti-Christian.

case closed.

notsofast said:
But it was the libs and you who didn’t like the Saudi’s owning stock in Newscorp.

Talk about Xenophobia!

False. The objection was to hypocrisy , not stock holdings.

The Real Royal King said:
Right.

That belief makes you a hypocrite.

notsofast said:
But it was the libs and you who didn’t like the Saudi’s owning stock in Newscorp.

Talk about Xenophobia!

It’s about the same time Fox stopped pushing that agenda as well. Hmmmmm.

James Gregory Backus said:
Republican have “hi-jacked” Christianity as some divine provenance to America. All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.

I absolutely agree that the Republicans attempted to hijack Christianity. For the most part, that failed. Christianity is remarkably resiliant. It has withstood the rightist attack upon it, and it has withstood the attempt to turn it into a Twelve Step Program. I wonder what the next attack will be?

CosmosDan said:
False. The objection was to hypocrisy , not stock holdings.

False! Anyone can buy stock, even a dullard like you! I love how you know want to discriminate against .

Reminds Big Eddie of The Great Buffalo Stampede of ’86 .

notsofast said:
Wrong! A lot of libs are Christians.

the difference being what exactly?

are you admitting that most liberals are not anti-Christian?

J Danielle said:
because a majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group doesn’t mean it should be done. If every decision in America was based on popular opinion a lot of us would have no rights.

You made the best point I’ve read. We are a country of principles, not of polls.

I’ll also add from my point of view, this is a good example of why Fox “insulates” it’s bloviators.
They just don’t know how to conduct a conversation outside their bubble of reality.

Libs stop your Xenophobia and racism!

It doesn’t help your cause!

CosmosDan said:
are you admitting that most liberals are not anti-Christian?

Nope!

notsofast said:
That is something YOU don’t decide; it’s called the 1st. amendment until libs like YOU don’t like what the people are saying.

Republicans are cowards. We were attacked by 19 dead Saudi Islamic Extremists. Saudi. You know, the guys that the Bush family have over to their ranch in Crawford are seen holding hands and kissing. The Bush administration allowed the “entire Bin Laden family” (also Saudi’s) depart the US – when all air traffic was banned for US Citizens. Fox is supported by the Royal Saudi Family. Bill’s whole sch-peel is to work for the ignoramuses of the GOP – distort, lie and scare little old ladies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/stewart-fox-prince-alwaleed_n_692234.html?ir=Media

Liberals are always talking about how the Tea Party and Republicans are racist. What is more racist: Giving handouts to people because you feel that they are too incompetent and too lazy to do for themselves…or encouraging people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and make an honest living without relying on anyone else, especially the government???

notsofast said:
Libs stop your Xenophobia and racism!

It doesn’t help your cause!

Glennbeckistan awaits you.

The Real Royal King said:
I absolutely agree that the Republicans attempted to hijack Christianity. For the most part, that failed. Christianity is remarkably resiliant. It has withstood the rightist attack upon it, and it has withstood the attempt to turn it into a Twelve Step Program. I wonder what the next attack will be?

You claiming to be one after being intolerant and bigoted towards a bunch of grandmas just because they aren’t going to vote the same way you are. I’d bet you’d want death panels if they killed off tea party people.

More Liberty said:
Excellent point. Many liberals are VERY intolerant of other views.

That’s a laugh coming from a modern day right-winger

espo222 said:
Liberals are always talking about how the Tea Party and Republicans are racist. What is more racist: Giving handouts to people because you feel that they are too incompetent and too lazy to do for themselves…or encouraging people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and make an honest living without relying on anyone else, especially the government???

Unsubstantiated opinion!

James Gregory Backus said:
Republican have “hi-jacked” Christianity as some divine provenance to America. All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.

Mr. Backus, congratulations for using your real name. I hope that is your real name.
However your comment is pure drivel and nonsense. Judas worked for Nancy Pelosi.

Rogue-Comic said in response to my “caffeinated” remark:
Its called playing to the audience.

I haven’t been a daily watcher of The View in a couple of years, but the couch segments seem to be more quiet and reserved. In the clip, he just seems to be too wired, like maybe he had been running late (or possibly attacked backstage) and the adrenaline was still pumping through his veins.

The Real Royal King said:
I absolutely agree that the Republicans attempted to hijack Christianity. For the most part, that failed. Christianity is remarkably resiliant. It has withstood the rightist attack upon it, and it has withstood the attempt to turn it into a Twelve Step Program. I wonder what the next attack will be?

I think the Christians tried to hijack the Republican Party and failing that, created the Tea Party, whose membership supports prayer, pro-life and “values.”

I shouldn’t required a tissue.

I think you meant ‘require’, King.

James Gregory Backus said:
We were attacked by 19 dead Saudi Islamic Extremists. Saudi.

Really? How do dead people attack?

The Bush administration allowed the “entire Bin Laden family” (also Saudi’s) depart the US – when all air traffic was banned for US Citizens. Fox is supported by the Royal Saudi Family. ”

LOL

A lib whose knowledge of 9/11 is based on a Micheal Moore movie!

LMFAO!

You are priceless, and clueless.

Here are the facts:

Flights of Saudi Nationals Leaving the United States

Three questions have arisen with respect to the departure of Saudi nationals from the United States in the immediate aftermath of 9/11:

(1) Did any flights of Saudi nationals take place before national airspace reopened on September 13, 2001? (2) Was there any political intervention to facilitate the departure of Saudi nationals? (3) Did the FBI screen Saudi nationals thoroughly before their departure?

First, we found no evidence that any flights of Saudi nationals, domestic or international, took place before the reopening of national airspace on the morning of September 13, 2001.24 To the contrary, every flight we have identified occurred after national airspace reopened.

Second, we found no evidence of political intervention. We found no evidence that anyone at theWhite House above the level of Richard Clarke participated in a decision on the departure of Saudi nationals. The issue came up in one of the many video teleconferences of the interagency group Clarke chaired, and Clarke said he approved of how the FBI was dealing with the matter when it came up for interagency discussion at his level. Clarke told us,“I asked the FBI, Dale Watson . . . to handle that, to check to see if that was all right with them, to see if they wanted access to any of these people, and to get back to me. And if they had no objections, it would be fine with me.” Clarke added,“I have no recollection of clearing it with anybody at the White House.”

Although White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card remembered someone telling him about the Saudi request shortly after 9/11, he said he had not talked to the Saudis and did not ask anyone to do anything about it. The President andVice President told us they were not aware of the issue at all until it surfaced much later in the media. None of the officials we interviewed recalled any intervention or direction on this matter from any political appointee.

Third, we believe that the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals who left the United States on charter flights. The Saudi government was advised of and agreed to the FBI’s requirements that passengers be identified and checked against various databases before the flights departed. The Federal Aviation Administration representative working in the FBI operations center made sure that the FBI was aware of the flights of Saudi nationals and was able to screen the passengers before they were allowed to depart.
The FBI interviewed all persons of interest on these flights prior to their departures.They concluded that none of the passengers was connected to the 9/11 attacks and have since found no evidence to change that conclusion. Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights.”

9/11 Commission Report

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The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Unsubstantiated opinion!

Well, Democrats are the ones who are always in favor of more welfare and entitlements, so what I wrote was a fact!

The Real Royal King said:
For my part, I don’t like the cheap theatrics.

No, you prefer cheap name calling.

Magister said:
I haven’t been a daily watcher of The View in a couple of years, but the couch segments seem to be more quiet and reserved. In the clip, he just seems to be too wired, like maybe he had been running late (or possibly attacked backstage) and the adrenaline was still pumping through his veins.

He’s playing the character the View’s audience expects him to be. It was more reserved with Stewart but you could tell he was performing.

Dronetek said:
I wish we could edit these posts.

Here is the interview I’m talking about:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/12/whoopi-decries-decline-civility-told-mosque-protesters-kiss-my-but

Dronetek said:
I wish we could edit these posts.

Here is the interview I’m talking about:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/10/12/whoopi-decries-decline-civility-told-mosque-protesters-kiss-my-but

Um…you originally said Bill Maher. Was that a mistake?

James Gregory Backus said:
Republicans are cowards. We were attacked by 19 dead Saudi Islamic Extremists. Saudi. You know, the guys that the Bush family have over to their ranch in Crawford are seen holding hands and kissing. The Bush administration allowed the “entire Bin Laden family” (also Saudi’s) depart the US – when all air traffic was banned for US Citizens. Fox is supported by the Royal Saudi Family. Bill’s whole sch-peel is to work for the ignoramuses of the GOP – distort, lie and scare little old ladies.

You need to get new talking points and quit repeating conspiracy nonsense.
That NEVER happened.

Alz said:
Modern Liberalism/Progressivism is not rooted in seeking the truth so they literally can’t handle the truth. Their only response is to ridicule or run away.

Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

It just aired in my market. An off-topic question, but is Sherri Shepherd capable of asking a question of a guest without reading that question from a blue card? Who watches this crap?

gordonbloyershow said:
You need to get new talking points and quit repeating conspiracy nonsense.
That NEVER happened.

HAHAHAHAHA. What because you didn’t see it on Glenn Becks blackboard?!! LOL. Too funny.

Whoooooopi and Jooooooy, two classless people. Legends in their own minds or what left of them.

espo222 said:
Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Outing a CIA Agent = Bush/Cheny/Rove
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

notsofast said:
Nope!

How about my other question. What’s the difference between lots of Christians being liberals or a lot of liberals being Christian?

Do you think liberal Christians are also anti Christian, or are inaccurate generalities just more convenient?

James Gregory Backus said:
James Gregory Backus says:
October 14, 2010 at 1:41 pm James Gregory Backus(Quote)
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Poor child. It’s barry who is in office and the Dems.

I’m thinking about the future, you and your lib pals can live in the past but you left this out:

WW1: Dem
WWII: Dem
Korean War: Dem
Vietnam War: Dems.

gordonbloyershow said:
Mr. Backus, congratulations for using your real name. I hope that is your real name.
However your comment is pure drivel and nonsense. Judas worked for Nancy Pelosi.

Do you ever have an intelligent thought or is it all just useless bullsh*t?

CosmosDan said:
Do you think liberal Christians are also anti Christian

Yes, I see Joy Bewhore show her anti-Christian beliefs every week.

These lib chicks see the writing on the wall (November) and it pisses them off. So funny… The leftists here in America make a career out of mocking and insulting conservatives and conservative beliefs and values, but are such thin skinned little punks and hypocrites that they refuse to tolerate people who don’t think like them. What a bunch of snivling, tiny little people.

James Gregory Backus said:

That’s clever how you made it look like I wrote that by editing a quote. Idiot

espo222 said:
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Well, Democrats are the ones who are always in favor of more welfare and entitlements, so what I wrote was a fact!

No, what is unsubstantiated opinion is that those programs are racist and that they are trying to tell people that they are lazy and incompetent. THAT IS OPINION! You have no proof, only your point of view.

espo222 said:
Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Outing a CIA Agent = Bush/Cheny/Rove
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

Yeah – blame the poor and out of work that the Republican Party has created as they take the tax breaks and ship their work to third world countries, child labor and no legal concerns as far as to the slave wages and labor being done.

If we took the Trillions spent on Bush’s Wars and put that towards America – how much better off would we be? Much. Republicans – willing to spend Trillions of our US Tax Dollars on illegal wars and nothing on America. A vote for a Republican is a vote for America to Fail.

Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Outing a CIA Agent = Bush/Cheny/Rove
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

notsofast said:
You are half right; you are irrelevant!

There ya go. insults are so much easier than a rational discussion.

CosmosDan said:
How about my other question. What’s the difference between lots of Christians being liberals or a lot of liberals being Christian?

Do you think liberal Christians are also anti Christian, or are inaccurate generalities just more convenient?

I implore you not to waste your time, notsosmart doesn’t engage in serious debate. It’s all drivel. Once you back him into a corner he’ll go to a new topic.

notsofast said:
Poor child. It’s barry who is in office and the Dems.

I’m thinking about the future, you and your lib pals can live in the past but you left this out:

WW1: Dem
WWII: Dem
Korean War: Dem
Vietnam War: Dems.

What is your point?

Rogue-Comic said:
He’s playing the character the View’s audience expects him to be. It was more reserved with Stewart but you could tell he was performing.

Perhaps, but I think maybe it may have more to do with the Stewart interviews being filmed later in the day. Whenever I’ve seems O’Reilly on GMA or someplace, he’s a lot more “awake” than on his own show or things like Letterman, which tapes in the late afternoon.

When you are a failed comedian and cannot get work anymore all you have to do is become a right-wing basher. Look what it did for: Maher, Stewart, Colbert, Behar, Whoopi, Rosie O’Donnell, Roseanne Barr, Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, etc., etc.

Republitarian said:
McVeigh was not a Christian. In the Book “American Terrorist”, the authors describe McVeigh as an agnostic, and they offer several pieces of evidence to support such a conclusion, not the least of which is a letter that McVeigh wrote to his parents (he was raised a Catholic) where he says that science was his religion, and other items that support the claim that McVeigh didn’t believe in Hell – hardly the beliefs of any Christian.

And Priests are good role models for boys.

James Gregory Backus said:
James Gregory Backus says:
October 14, 2010 at 1:47 pm James Gregory Backus(Quote)

Child, you can piss and moan all ya want, it is over for you, barry and the libs in less than 3 weeks. Bush was terrible the last 2 years of his term, and America wanted a change. Shit, they saw what you had to offer in 19 months and are now saying no mas! No mas!

LOL

bye bye libs said:
The two clowns ran bag on the set when they heard the boss chew em out. They don’t want to lose those easy paychecks. Barbara says JUMP those two are moving all 250lbs up as far as they can

While the above makes no sense but to the author (Teabager I assume) more:

Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Outing a CIA Agent = Bush/Cheny/Rove
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

James Gregory Backus said:
Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

Hate to tell you, son, but you’re insane.

notsofast said:
I am so amused that the only religion that libs will support is the one that is currently killing people in the name of their religion.

Ahhhhhhh, libs!

You mean the 1 million Iraqi citizens killed in collateral damage by Bush’s war?!

James Gregory Backus said:
What is your point?

LOL

You are clueless!

James Gregory Backus said:
You mean the 1 million Iraqi citizens killed in collateral damage by Bush’s war?!

How many lies do you plan to tell today?

You are batting a 100% so far1

Mr.Papshmer said:
Hate to tell you, son, but you’re insane.

And you live in denial. It’s the problem with the Republican Party. The nightmare the created and they can’t remember. Classic Reagan – I don’t remember syndrome. It’s why the Republicans will continue to whine and cry after 11/2 – the rest of us – haven’t forgotten.

As I’ve said here many times, the Left refuses to debate the Right. The only want to ridicule the Right. And if they could they would silence the Right. So I’m not surprised that Behar and Goldberg walk off the set rather than engage in dialogue.

By the way, a lot of other prominent Democrats will be taking walking papers in a few weeks time.

Hasselbeck: IF OBAMA WOULD LET US CALL THEM TERRORISTS THEN MAYBE WE WOULDN’T HAVE TO CALL THEM MUSLIMS!!!!!!

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!

James Gregory Backus said:
You mean the 1 million Iraqi citizens killed in collateral damage by Bush’s war?!

That never happened. You are ONE brainwashed fool.

You need to go to Arizona.
Don’t post your photo here. You lib friends will make fun of you because you are bald.

notsofast said:
Child, you can piss and moan all ya want, it is over for you, barry and the libs in less than 3 weeks. Bush was terrible the last 2 years of his term, and America wanted a change. Shit, they saw what you had to offer in 19 months and are now saying no mas! No mas!

LOL

You can dream chowder head – isn’t happening.

Go watch your reruns of Glenn Beck so he can “enlighten” you from his “Terror Chamber” or whatever the h*ll he calls his studio.

Burn the Koran, the Bible and the Torah and see which group tries to behead you? If Islam is so peaceful then why would the mere mention of Mohammed spark muslims to burn the American flag and threaten to kill Americans???? The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn’t exist…The greatest trick that Islam ever played was to convince people that it was peaceful.

felixw said:
As I’ve said here many times, the Left refuses to debate the Right. The only want to ridicule the Right. And if they could they would silence the Right. So I’m not surprised that Behar and Goldberg walk off the set rather than engage in dialogue.

By the way, a lot of other prominent Democrats will be taking walking papers in a few weeks time.

You can’t debate stupid – for example: O’Donnell vs. Coons, I’m sure you’ve seen the embarrassment that your party represents. Why do you celebrate being stupid. It just boggles the mind. Stupid has no shame, so prove my point.

espo222 said:
That’s clever how you made it look like I wrote that by editing a quote. Idiot

My apologies, I was not attributing that to you, but it copied that way. Nonetheless, the truth.

espo222 said:
When the founding fathers, founded this country, they didn’t ever think that religions like Islam would brainwash people into thinking that if you martyr yourself you will go to heaven. Anyone who is not a muslim is considered an infidel and we all know what the koran says about infidels, however some of us choose to ignore those facts.

Are you sure, because some people came here to escape religious persecution?

All 1.5 billion Muslims don’t believe the same things or interpret the Koran the same way, anymore than Christians do. Surely there must be a better approach than sacrificing our founding principles to persecute our fellow citizens based on their religion.
Seems to me that kind of persecution only makes it worse.

James Gregory Backus said:
Republican have “hi-jacked” Christianity as some divine provenance to America. All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.

You have it on good account? OK I’ll bite, how?

James Gregory Backus said:
Yeah – blame the poor and out of work that the Republican Party has created as they take the tax breaks and ship their work to third world countries, child labor and no legal concerns as far as to the slave wages and labor being done.

Really only Republicans? Can you back that up? No Dems that owned companies sent their jobs overseas? Who signed NAFTA?

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
Do you ever have an intelligent thought or is it all just useless bullsh*t?

Wow, you beat me to it. I was about to ask you the same thing.

gordonbloyershow said:
Mr. Backus, congratulations for using your real name. I hope that is your real name.
However your comment is pure drivel and nonsense. Judas worked for Nancy Pelosi.

Ah, the good ole Pelosi/Reid conspiracy theorists!!

What are liberals/progressives at this hour? Marxists, Communists, Fascists, Idealists, “Muslins”….Noise – no context is all the Republicans have been shouting.

Illegal war in Iraq = Where are the charges?

Arms for Hostages =Who caused Americans to become hostages?

Arming the axis of evil = We armed Iran and NKorea? Sorry, it was Clinton who allowed the NKs to get the bomb and Barry is now doing the same for Iran.

Watergate = Actually, that was a John Dean caper.

Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = BHO= let BP ruin the Gulf as he played GOLF

Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Totally false. NYT’s says Bush won.

Worst economy in 100 years = BHO Record job losses, record # on welfare, record # living at or below poverty level, record level of foreclosures, etc.

Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Committed by terrorist not the president!

Most Vacation Time by an acting President in 19 months = BHO

Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Prove it was illegal and BHO continuing said wars.

Torture = Prove it! BHO continues rendition and Gitmo!

Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Sorry, child, but it’s “legal” wire -tapping and BHO continues to do it also!

Propaganda on American Airwaves – Air America, HP, MM,, DailyKos

Coming soon if they get into office – Enforcement of current federal immigration laws.

Wow- that was easy!

espo222 said:
Burn the Koran, the Bible and the Torah and see which group tries to behead you? If Islam is so peaceful then why would the mere mention of Mohammed spark muslims to burn the American flag and threaten to kill Americans???? The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world he didn’t exist…The greatest trick that Islam ever played was to convince people that it was peaceful.

The outrage of some Muslims doesn’t justify persecuting our fellow Americans.

Muslims that decide to live here have to accept that certain things are not optional, and free speech is one of them. Religious tradition does not over ride our laws.

Penguin60 said:
You have it on good account? OK I’ll bite, how?

Really only Republicans? Can you back that up? No Dems that owned companies sent their jobs overseas? Who signed NAFTA?

Own something will you. Own up to the disaster that has been 30 years of failed Republican Policies, voodoo economics/Reaganomics et. al. Stop answering questions with questions and answer the GD question!

James Gregory Backus said:
HAHAHAHAHA. What because you didn’t see it on Glenn Becks blackboard?!! LOL. Too funny.

LOL, no because it is true and no SANE people believe it.
I guess you missed the statement from the 911 Commission Report that was already posted once.
Of course, the INSANE people don’t believe that report.
Funny, when I Google your name the only things that come up are your ignorant comments on other sites.
You are so unknown that you have accomplished nothing that makes it to google.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
I implore you not to waste your time, notsosmart doesn’t engage in serious debate. It’s all drivel. Once you back him into a corner he’ll go to a new topic.

or just resort to insults. got it. Thanks for the reminder.

felixw said:
As I’ve said here many times, the Left refuses to debate the Right. The only want to ridicule the Right. And if they could they would silence the Right. So I’m not surprised that Behar and Goldberg walk off the set rather than engage in dialogue.

By the way, a lot of other prominent Democrats will be taking walking papers in a few weeks time.

I figured you would say that. perhaps you should watch the O’Donnell-Coons debate and see who was avoiding the questions in the manner of Sarah Palin.

70% of Americans disapprove of O’Reilly also.

CosmosDan said:
or just resort to insults. got it. Thanks for the reminder.

LOL

I have torn TRL so many assholes, he hired hi own proctologist!

Bring it on, RL!

felixw said:
As I’ve said here many times, the Left refuses to debate the Right.

When the right can debate w/o saying something as demeaning as “Listen to me! Maybe you’ll learn something!” (O’Reilly) or repeating everything the guest says like a child would do (Beck) then maybe we will have a calm and frank discussion with them.

This was Bill’s mistake. He shouldn’t have said simply “Muslims” and I don’t blame the two ladies for not sitting still for it.
Even he knew he fucked up, that’s why he apologized and I’m sure he’ll “clarify” his remarks on tonight’s Factor.

James Gregory Backus said:
Own something will you. Own up to the disaster that has been 30 years of failed Republican Policies, voodoo economics/Reaganomics et. al. Stop answering questions with questions and answer the GD question!

You can’t blame Reagan without blaming Clinton as well for your 30 years thing, and both presidents were in charge during prosperous times.

Eric said:
70% of Americans disapprove of O’Reilly also.

Nice lie!

His show has been #1 in cable news for years.

Any other lie you libs which to proffer?

CosmosDan said:
Are you sure, because some people came here to escape religious persecution?

All 1.5 billion Muslims don’t believe the same things or interpret the Koran the same way, anymore than Christians do. Surely there must be a better approach than sacrificing our founding principles to persecute our fellow citizens based on their religion.
Seems to me that kind of persecution only makes it worse.

Seems to me that it is better to be safe than sorry. Until Muslims can exhibit that they are not living in the 17th century America should not let any more of them in and the ones who are here should be watched very closely. The so-called moderate muslims still make their women wear burquas, they still pray to the same god and believe in the same book that tells them that any non-muslim should be killed. Don’t give me the line about muslims interpreting the koran differently. How do you interpret these passages in the wrong way:
-Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah’s religion reigns supreme. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39
-O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54

There are thousand more. Most Christians go to church once a year, say grace during the holidays and pray every now and then. There are few christians who follow every word of the bible and the ones who do, only try to convert you, not kill you. Isn’t is odd that there is even a term “moderate muslims???”

James Gregory Backus said:
Own something will you. Own up to the disaster that has been 30 years of failed Republican Policies, voodoo economics/Reaganomics et. al. Stop answering questions with questions and answer the GD question!

Yeah, that’s what I thought. Did God tell you to write that? Spout off all you wwant without any back-up, what page is that on in the lib playbook?
Geez, Did Bellevue have a recess?

Eric said:
70% of Americans disapprove of O’Reilly also.

You meant Palin, right?

CosmosDan said:
The outrage of some Muslims doesn’t justify persecuting our fellow Americans.

Muslims that decide to live here have to accept that certain things are not optional, and free speech is one of them. Religious tradition does not over ride our laws.

You are right. Please tell that to the moderate muslims who treat their wives like 4th class citizens. The focus should be on training the muslims to assimilate to a civilized society, not to teach Americans to be sensitive to muslim beliefs.

notsofast said:
LOL

I have torn TRL so many assholes, he hired hi own proctologist!

Bring it on, RL!

Like when I provided evidence for everything that you requested and each time that I did you requested new evidence for something different? You’re pathetic at best.

notsofast said:
Illegal war in Iraq = Where are the charges? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2rqww-eOIs&feature=related

Arms for Hostages =Who caused Americans to become hostages? = Iranians

Arming the axis of evil = We armed Iran and NKorea? Sorry, it was Clinton who allowed the NKs to get the bomb and Barry is now doing the same for Iran (Republican puppet goverment fails – Shaw of Iran)

Watergate = Actually, that was a John Dean caper. = LOLOL

Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = BHO= let BP ruin the Gulf as he played GOLF – WHILE YOU’RE ANSWERING WITH UNFOUNDED ACCUSATION I’LL TAKE IT YOU ARE ADMITTING BUSH’S COMPLICITY.

Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Totally false. NYT’s says Bush won. USSC annointed Bush.

Worst economy in 100 years = BHO Record job losses, record # on welfare, record # living at or below poverty level, record level of foreclosures, etc. – Again, you’re agreeing – this was created by the GOP.

Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Committed by terrorist not the president! While Bush disregarded the intel up to the attacks including ignoring his PDB alerting him to the fact – in addition – he took the month of August 2001 OFF TO VACATION + the GOP of course wasted 8 months trying to discredit Clinton over a BJ (actually the Republicans sat on the hands for 8 years – but the last 8 months of his administration – wasting Americas time and money chasing doing “nothing”).

Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 years – King George Bush

Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = BUSH BROKE IT – WE’RE THERE FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, JUST LIKE THE FRENCH AND BRITISH BEFORE US.

Torture = Proven and Republican Admitted.! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKV4MM-ynkY

Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Why do you want to give away liberty and freedom? Why do you hate America?

Propaganda on American Airwaves – Fox is the only propaganda station in America. Proven.

Coming soon if they get into office – Then why try and legalize Profiling?

Wow- that was easy! If you spent have the time to really look, you’ll find it’s easier with truth on my part to prove you’ve yet to evolve past monkey. – That WAS EASY!! thanks!

Folks, I thought RRK, Ted, BFD, Box of Rox and Jackie were the most insane people posting here.
The new guy, James Gregory Backus is giving them a run for their money. He may be the dumbest new poster here in months.

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You lost!

Go back to your coma!

They are ridiculous. They don’t even know *why* they are so defensive except that Conservatives are against it. Why is it that libs, who are mostly (generalizing here) against religion, pro-gay rights, and pro-(liberal) women’s rights but defend Muslims so desperately?

Liberals attack Conservatives and accuse them of being against gays and women, and of being religious fanatics, but then they turn around and defend Muslims. That makes no sense to me.

And people keep calling the ground zero mosque a cultural center – not a mosque – but then say it is about religious freedom. So, which is it? A mosque or a cultural center? Because last time I checked, a cultural center isn’t protected under freedom of religion.

Whoopi and Joy couldn’t back up their opinions, which is why they freaked out and walked out. I love that Walters called them out for being ridiculous and walking out.

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notsofast said:
Illegal war in Iraq = Where are the charges? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2

He cites Bill Moyers!!!!!!!!

LOL

LMFAO!

James, for your own safety, stow all sharp objects in a safe location on 11/2.

gordonbloyershow said:
Folks, I thought RRK, Ted, BFD, Box of Rox and Jackie were the most insane people posting here.
The new guy, James Gregory Backus is giving them a run for their money. He may be the dumbest new poster here in months.

We could say the same for you before notsosmart came along. The only intelligent conservatives here seem to be liberty and andy lamb

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
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Hey, child, please tell the people again how Jews are a race!!!

LOL

I have to agree that Whoopi and JOy shouldnt have stomped off like that. Does nothing for value of their viewpoint nor does it help the group of Americans, no matter how small or large a poll says that group is, in the eyes of the opposition. Just gives them ammunition to show to their choir.

We should all be able to have a discussion on the issues without it turning into a screaming match or a series of backhanded comments in an effort to one-up each other.

McVeigh isn’t a great example: Eric Robert Rudolph is a better example.

Rogue-Comic said:
You can’t blame Reagan without blaming Clinton as well for your 30 years thing, and both presidents were in charge during prosperous times.

The 8 years of prosperity during the Clinton years eats at the little minds of the Reich-Wing – true.

sarainitaly said:

And people keep calling the ground zero mosque a cultural center – not a mosque – but then say it is about religious freedom. So, which is it? A mosque or a cultural center? Because last time I checked, a cultural center isn’t protected under freedom of religion.

The mosque part of the cultural center is already up and running actually. 60 Minutes did a piece on this about a month ago.

the fact is tht he actuated the entire Muslim fate with the terriost that attacked us. that is the reason for them getting upset and walking off they should not have done it as Barbara said but lets not move away from the substance of the issue. the issue is that he was wrong for doing that and thankfully he apologized for his offensive comment.

Mr.Papshmer said:
James, for your own safety, stow all sharp objects in a safe location on 11/2.

Makes your head hurt doesn’t it – and you thought you were just voting against “pro-choice”. LOL.

sarainitaly said:
They are ridiculous. They don’t even know *why* they are so defensive except that Conservatives are against it. Why is it that libs, who are mostly (generalizing here) against religion, pro-gay rights, and pro-(liberal) women’s rights but defend Muslims so desperately?

Liberals attack Conservatives and accuse them of being against gays and women, and of being religious fanatics, but then they turn around and defend Muslims. That makes no sense to me.

And people keep calling the ground zero mosque a cultural center – not a mosque – but then say it is about religious freedom. So, which is it? A mosque or a cultural center? Because last time I checked, a cultural center isn’t protected under freedom of religion.

Whoopi and Joy couldn’t back up their opinions, which is why they freaked out and walked out. I love that Walters called them out for being ridiculous and walking out.

Your generalization is quite off, there are more christian liberals than atheists. We defend the freedom of religion guaranteed in the constitution (you know that thing conservatives claim is so important to them), we defend the right of people to practice that free of discrimination, we defend those who are too scared of a backlash to speak up for themselves; those peaceful muslims who’ve been living here for many years, we defend people from being discriminated against as a terrorists for the actions of some people across thousand of miles of water. It IS under freedom of religion because it is a MUSLIM cultural center just like a JEWISH community center or a CHRISTIAN community center. Use some logic here.

James Gregory Backus said:
The 8 years of prosperity during the Clinton years eats at the little minds of the Reich-Wing – true.

LOL

Every year Bush was in office, the unemployment rate was less than what BHO has done.

James Gregory Backus said:
The 8 years of prosperity during the Clinton years eats at the little minds of the Reich-Wing – true.

Okay never mind, I try to engage you politely, and you skew my words into a Godwin’s Law Republican slur.

notsofast said:
He cites Bill Moyers!!!!!!!!

LOL

LMFAO!

Truth is funny. You should watch the Daily Show. We laugh at the idiocy of your ilk non-stop!! ROFLMAO (look it up sparky!)

notsofast said:
Hey, child, please tell the people again how Jews are a race!!!

LOL

Cultural/Ethnic Jews? Would you like me to provide genetic evidence or court rulings which is what you (JohnSimpson) requested before. Do I honestly have to go back to grammar school and take you all the way up to anthropology again?

James Gregory Backus said:
And you live in denial.

Well, you did get Watergate right, so you’re batting .07%

James Gregory Backus said:
the Reich-Wing –

The nazi reference, frikkin awesome!

James Gregory Backus said:
Truth is funny.

Bill Moyers????

LOL

I’ll ask again, since you had no answer the first time.

Where are the charges and why is Gitmo still open and why does BHO still use rendition?

Come on, child- answer!

notsofast said:
LOL

Every year Bush was in office, the unemployment rate was less than what BHO has done.

The unemployment rates were projected at that level long before the president took office, as was the deficit. Look into it.

notsofast said:
He cites Bill Moyers!!!!!!!!

LOL

LMFAO!

Truth is funny. You should watch the Daily Show. We laugh at the idiocy of your ilk non-stop!! ROFLMAO (look it up sparky!)

sarainitaly said:
They are ridiculous. They don’t even know *why* they are so defensive except that Conservatives are against it. Why is it that libs, who are mostly (generalizing here) against religion, pro-gay rights, and pro-(liberal) women’s rights but defend Muslims so desperately?

Liberals attack Conservatives and accuse them of being against gays and women, and of being religious fanatics, but then they turn around and defend Muslims. That makes no sense to me.

And people keep calling the ground zero mosque a cultural center – not a mosque – but then say it is about religious freedom. So, which is it? A mosque or a cultural center? Because last time I checked, a cultural center isn’t protected under freedom of religion.

Whoopi and Joy couldn’t back up their opinions, which is why they freaked out and walked out. I love that Walters called them out for being ridiculous and walking out.

Given your rationale above – why does it bother you at all?

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notsofast said:
Hey, child, please tell the people again how Jews are a race!!!

LOL

Cultural/Ethnic Jews? Would you like me to provide genetic evidence or court rulings which is what you (JohnSimpson) requested before. Do I honestly have to go back to grammar school and take you all the way up to anthropology again?

Folks, the only non-Jew in the world who thinks Jews are a race.

notsofast said:
Poor child. It’s barry who is in office and the Dems.

I’m thinking about the future, you and your lib pals can live in the past but you left this out:

WW1: Dem – You’re Welcome
WWII: Dem – You’re Welcome
Korean War: Republicans/Dem
Vietnam War: Republicans/Dems.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
The unemployment rates were projected at that level long before the president took office, as was the deficit. Look into it.

TOTALLY FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The unemployment rates are actual and are provided by the BLS!

Look it up!

Sep 5 2010
The Bureau of Labor Statistics issues the “U.S. Employment Report” monthly. However, it focuses on the gain or decline from the previous month. This does not take into account seasonal variations, such as teachers who go on vacation in the summer. For this reason, a better way to look at employment statistics is year-over-year. ”

You libs just can’t stop lying!

MG!

Dane Jackson said:
the fact is tht he actuated the entire Muslim fate with the terriost that attacked us. that is the reason for them getting upset and walking off they should not have done it as Barbara said but lets not move away from the substance of the issue. the issue is that he was wrong for doing that and thankfully he apologized for his offensive comment.

By this logic, why is it OK for liberals to cast aspersions upon millions of Tea Partiers as being racists because of a very, very few offensive signs?

This is the problem. Liberals have an intellectually dishonest theory of group responsibility for the acts of members of that group. The Tea Party is held to the strictest standard. ANY individual who misbehaves becomes representative of the entire group. Muslims, however, get the benefit of the doubt. There are international polls that say as much as 1/3 of the Muslim population of the world support al Qaeda. That’s 300,000,000+ people. Yet that does not–in the liberal world view–reflect poorly on Islam in any way, shape, or form.

notsofast said:
He cites Bill Moyers!!!!!!!!

LOL

LMFAO!

Actually – you didn’t watch the clip did you – for if you did, you would have seen that the Republican attorney that was trying to prosecute Clinton on the BJ was talking about how much worse the BUSH crimes were….Dope.

notsofast said:
Folks, the only non-Jew in the world who thinks Jews are a race.

See? This is why we don’t take you seriously.

James Gregory Backus said:
WW1: Dem – You’re Welcome
WWII: Dem – You’re Welcome
Korean War: Republicans/Dem
Vietnam War: Republicans/Dems.

Thanks for killing so many Americans . You must be so proud!

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
The unemployment rates were projected at that level long before the president took office, as was the deficit. Look into it.

Completely false. Obama increased the national debt more in his first MONTH in office (i.e., the “stimulus”), then Bush did in his first TERM in office. Look into it.

notsofast said:
TOTALLY FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The unemployment rates are actual and are provided by the BLS!

Look it up!

Sep 5 2010
The Bureau of Labor Statistics issues the “U.S. Employment Report” monthly. However, it focuses on the gain or decline from the previous month. This does not take into account seasonal variations, such as teachers who go on vacation in the summer. For this reason, a better way to look at employment statistics is year-over-year. ”

You libs just can’t stop lying!

MG!

This says absolutely nothing, notsosmart.

notsofast said:
Folks, the only non-Jew in the world who thinks Jews are a race.

This dude makes Ted look smart. A new meaning to the word “dumb”

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
See? This is why we don’t take you seriously.

Folks, this man thinks Jews are a race.

That is how FKing dumb he is.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
This says absolutely nothing, notsosmart.

Proves you lied. AGAIN!

Whoopie and Behar, if ever there were two people that represent the pinheads of the world, these two take first prize. Their kinda, the “Beevis & Butthead” of daytime TV. You could fill a book with the ignorant, and stupid comments just these two make weekly on the View. I stopped watching this nonsense years ago. The only reason I’ll watch it is if O’Rielly, or Laura Ingram are on.

I have many jewish friends, mostly russian and polish jews. Their ancestors are not from Jewland, they are either from Russia or Poland. Jewish is a religion. End of story.

AnonymousFinch said:
By this logic, why is it OK for liberals to cast aspersions upon millions of Tea Partiers as being racists because of a very, very few offensive signs?

This is the problem. Liberals have an intellectually dishonest theory of group responsibility for the acts of members of that group. The Tea Party is held to the strictest standard. ANY individual who misbehaves becomes representative of the entire group. Muslims, however, get the benefit of the doubt. There are international polls that say as much as 1/3 of the Muslim population of the world support al Qaeda. That’s 300,000,000+ people. Yet that does not–in the liberal world view–reflect poorly on Islam in any way, shape, or form.

I agree totally, but it is still “morally” wrong to stereotype all Muslims as well as all tea-party people.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
notsofast said:
Folks, the only non-Jew in the world who thinks Jews are a race.

See? This is why we don’t take you seriously.

If you can become a Jew, (which you can) then a race it’s not. I remember a court ruling that O.J. was not guilty, too.

notsofast said:
TOTALLY FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The unemployment rates are actual and are provided by the BLS!

Look it up!

Sep 5 2010
The Bureau of Labor Statistics issues the “U.S. Employment Report” monthly. However, it focuses on the gain or decline from the previous month. This does not take into account seasonal variations, such as teachers who go on vacation in the summer. For this reason, a better way to look at employment statistics is year-over-year. ”

You libs just can’t stop lying!

MG!

Bush was embarrassing – but my God – Republicans are just horrible ignorant people incapable of reason and understanding. Didn’t think Quayle could be topped you give us W. Didn’t think it could get any worse and you give us Palin – thought you hit rock bottom and you give us Angle, O’Donnell and Miller to prove stupid has no bottom! And of course the coup d’etat are the Teabaging bloggers and “workathome.com” marketers echoing the BS from the Ministry of Lies that is Ailes/Luntz and the RNC at Faux Newz. Sheep. You can’t be educated because you’re brainwashed. Ignorance is America’s problem and to quote the Daily Mail when Bush stole the election in 2004 – “How can 54 million people be so dumb!” To that I say, we as educated Americans don’t know, but it seems to start with the dumbing down at Jesus Camp, through TV Evangelicals, through Republican indoctrination Camp to Christian Universities where science and fact are inconvenient actions to their idiocy. Incredible how the GOP has traded intelligence in for blind, ignorant faith. God is not amused. Play with yourself RNC trolls – you say nothing of truth fact or interest. Probably how you became Republicans in the first place.

Mr.Papshmer said:
f you can become a Jew, (which you can) then a race it’s not. I remember a court ruling that O.J. was not guilty, too.

Yeah, I was thinking about changing my race this year to Jewish. I had a Jewish friend who converted his race last year.

This is why America will turn out and vote Republicans out of office:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chase-whiteside/new-left-media-interviews_b_699897.html

James Gregory Backus said:
Bush was embarrassing – but my God – Republicans are just horrible ignorant people incapable of reason and understanding. Didn’t think Quayle could be topped you give us W. Didn’t think it could get any worse and you give us Palin – thought you hit rock bottom and you give us Angle, O’Donnell and Miller to prove stupid has no bottom! And of course the coup d’etat are the Teabaging bloggers and “workathome.com” marketers echoing the BS from the Ministry of Lies that is Ailes/Luntz and the RNC at Faux Newz. Sheep. You can’t be educated because you’re brainwashed. Ignorance is America’s problem and to quote the Daily Mail when Bush stole the election in 2004 – “How can 54 million people be so dumb!” To that I say, we as educated Americans don’t know, but it seems to start with the dumbing down at Jesus Camp, through TV Evangelicals, through Republican indoctrination Camp to Christian Universities where science and fact are inconvenient actions to their idiocy. Incredible how the GOP has traded intelligence in for blind, ignorant faith. God is not amused. Play with yourself RNC trolls – you say nothing of truth fact or interest. Probably how you became Republicans in the first place.

Thanks for that utterly unresponsive post to anything that has been said on here.

You are starting to sound like Barry!

BTW, shitforbrains- from that lib bastion, The NYTs:

Now stop lying!

Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER
George W. Bush would have won even if the Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount that the Florida court had ordered to go forward.

***Ethnoreligious group***

CAconservative said:
Whoopie and Behar, if ever there were two people that represent the pinheads of the world, these two take first prize. Their kinda, the “Beevis & Butthead” of daytime TV. You could fill a book with the ignorant, and stupid comments just these two make weekly on the View. I stopped watching this nonsense years ago. The only reason I’ll watch it is if O’Rielly, or Laura Ingram are on.

I feel for you. It’s sad if those are the people you follow.

AnonymousFinch said:
By this logic, why is it OK for liberals to cast aspersions upon millions of Tea Partiers as being racists because of a very, very few offensive signs?

This is the problem. Liberals have an intellectually dishonest theory of group responsibility for the acts of members of that group. The Tea Party is held to the strictest standard. ANY individual who misbehaves becomes representative of the entire group. Muslims, however, get the benefit of the doubt. There are international polls that say as much as 1/3 of the Muslim population of the world support al Qaeda. That’s 300,000,000+ people. Yet that does not–in the liberal world view–reflect poorly on Islam in any way, shape, or form.

WTF? LOL

notsofast said:
I loved watching those two fat-assed race-baiting libs walk off only to have Barbara blast them for doing so! So funny that Colby was to afraid to leave what Barbara said in the clip.

Great job, Bill! Congrats!

No-So-Fast proves every statement that he is an unmitigated idiot.

AnonymousFinch said:
That’s the irony of the modern Left. When you have a little old grandmother from the suburbs drives into town on April 15th to attend a tea Party rally, the liberlas fear her as a violent racist who is ready to explode as any moment. But when you have a religion of more than a billion people, and approximately 1/3 of them subscribe to the most violent version of it, the libs see no problems.

“The inquisition, what a show! The inquisition, here we go! We know you’re wishing…that we’d go away….but the inquisition’s here and it’s here to stay!!” – Mel Brooks

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
we defend the right of people to practice that free of discrimination

Liberals defend the right of Christians to practice, free of discrimination?
you are kidding, aren’t you?

James Gregory Backus said:
Yeah – blame the poor and out of work that the Republican Party has created as they take the tax breaks and ship their work to third world countries, child labor and no legal concerns as far as to the slave wages and labor being done.

If we took the Trillions spent on Bush’s Wars and put that towards America – how much better off would we be? Much. Republicans – willing to spend Trillions of our US Tax Dollars on illegal wars and nothing on America. A vote for a Republican is a vote for America to Fail.

Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Outing a CIA Agent = Bush/Cheny/Rove
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

Talk about a wingnut.

James Gregory Backus said:
Given your rationale above – why does it bother you at all?

Why does what bother me?

James Gregory Backus said:
Republicans are just horrible ignorant people

Kinda like that incredibly bright Democrat Hank Johnson who thought that too many marines on Guam might make it tip over? Nice one that, eh?

Just because people follow a religion, doens’t mean that it deserves respect. If Hitler won, Naziism would have been a religion that could have garnered hundreds of millions of followers. Does that mean that nazi curches should be built everywhere? The founding fathers had no idea what the future held when they spoke of religious freedom.

espo222 said:
There is not a backlash against Islam because people simply don’t like freedom of religion, there are a lot of reasons that people really fear Islam. I like how Whoopi brought up Timothy McVeigh when talking about Christians. He didn’t kill anyone in the name of Jesus, he was a nut. Every few years a Christian nutjob kills an abortion doctor in the name of Jesus. Since 9/11, there have been over 20,000 documented attacks on American interests in the name of Islam and none in the name of Christianity.

God and/or Jesus doesn’t need your help in killing people (if you believe the good book you pro-port to support) – So killing in the name of Jesus – or religious crusading is moronic. You’re statement about 20,000 documented attacks on “American Interests” (be honest – OIL) are because we are in their country taking it. Stop the false morality and false patriotic rhetoric. We’re in Iraq because Haliburton and the Republicans saw an opportunity, lied to the American people and didn’t give a rats arse about Bin Laden. You can propagandize your rationalization all you want – educated people around the world know – the Republican false morality play and the false patriotism play are fronts to dance around the law – as King George W. Bush proved so ably as he brought our country to its knees. Congrats Republicans – you’re doing what Bin Laden could only dream of doing – destroying America, democracy and liberty from the inside. The Fourth Reich is the new Republican Party/Teabager Puppets for the Corporate Citizen.

J Danielle said:
I think that Behar and Goldberg walked off because it’s impossible to explain to people that just because a majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group doesn’t mean it should be done. If every decision in America was based on popular opinion a lot of us would have no rights.

Exactly. The point is, they are constitutionally within their rights to build it, so it really doesn’t matter what the 70% against it or the 30% for it feel on the matter. The only people who’s opinions on whether or not it should be built are valid are the building owners.. case closed, it makes you mad or emotional, tuff don’t look at it. arent the republicans the ones going around saying the countries becoming too politically correct?? now they wanna stop this from being built because they view it as an insult or too emotional for some. The whole story is a non story, it took place in the summer time where not alot was happening, really the only reason it got so much play

sarainitaly said:
Why does what bother me?

I thought so.

Patrick Henry said:
Talk about a wingnut.

Ah, the inconvenient truth. Here, have some more Tea…I mean, kool-aide.

notsofast said:
Hey, child, please tell the people again how Jews are a race!!!

\

Yeah, I’m a little baffled by this one, myself.

Rogue-Comic said:
I agree totally, but it is still “morally” wrong to stereotype all Muslims as well as all tea-party people.

..or liberals or conservatives or Christians, etc.

AnonymousFinch said:
By this logic, why is it OK for liberals to cast aspersions upon millions of Tea Partiers as being racists because of a very, very few offensive signs?

This is the problem. Liberals have an intellectually dishonest theory of group responsibility for the acts of members of that group. The Tea Party is held to the strictest standard. ANY individual who misbehaves becomes representative of the entire group. Muslims, however, get the benefit of the doubt. There are international polls that say as much as 1/3 of the Muslim population of the world support al Qaeda. That’s 300,000,000+ people. Yet that does not–in the liberal world view–reflect poorly on Islam in any way, shape, or form.

Every time anything happens the Left goes full on postal accusing the “repubathugs” or “teabaggers” for it. Amy Bishop, the plane crasher, the shooters, the FED census guy… Now Olby and Tingles are blaming the fire burning and the Chile miner accident on tea partiers (or their ideology). And of course, we all know the entire party of “teabaggers” as they so loving like to call them, are racists. But GOD FORBID O’Reilly state that Muslims attacked us on 9/11.

James Gregory Backus said:
This is why America will turn out and vote Republicans out of office:l

America voted Republicans out of office in 2006.

notsofast said:
Thanks for that utterly unresponsive post to anything that has been said on here.

You are starting to sound like Barry!

BTW, shitforbrains- from that lib bastion, The NYTs:

Now stop lying!

Study of Disputed Florida Ballots Finds Justices Did Not Cast the Deciding Vote
By FORD FESSENDEN and JOHN M. BRODER
George W. Bush would have won even if the Supreme Court had allowed the statewide manual recount that the Florida court had ordered to go forward.

How is that Home Schooling working out for you? You gonna “gradiate” soon?

James Gregory Backus said:
I thought so.

thought so what?

are you asking me why i commented in a comment section?

Rogue-Comic said:
America voted Republicans out of office in 2006.

We’re not finished.

Rogue-Comic said:
I agree totally, but it is still “morally” wrong to stereotype all Muslims as well as all tea-party people.

bealzebubba said:

..or liberals or conservatives or Christians, etc.

Someone gets it. =)

James Gregory Backus said:
Republicans are just horrible ignorant people incapable of reason and understanding.

Ironic in a thread about two ignorant liberals who stomped their feet and stormed out because they were incapable of reason and understanding.

James Gregory Backus said:
God and/or Jesus doesn’t need your help in killing people (if you believe the good book you pro-port to support) – So killing in the name of Jesus – or religious crusading is moronic. You’re statement about 20,000 documented attacks on “American Interests” (be honest – OIL) are because we are in their country taking it. Stop the false morality and false patriotic rhetoric. We’re in Iraq because Haliburton and the Republicans saw an opportunity, lied to the American people and didn’t give a rats arse about Bin Laden. You can propagandize your rationalization all you want – educated people around the world know – the Republican false morality play and the false patriotism play are fronts to dance around the law – as King George W. Bush proved so ably as he brought our country to its knees. Congrats Republicans – you’re doing what Bin Laden could only dream of doing – destroying America, democracy and liberty from the inside. The Fourth Reich is the new Republican Party/Teabager Puppets for the Corporate Citizen.

I am not a religious person, however I would like to know how Bush brought the country to its knees when there was a democratic house and senate for the majority of the time. Also, where exactly is all this oil we are stealing, shouldn’t gas prices be 5 cents a gallon by now. I guess Bush is stealing the oil and pumping it into his ranch in Crawford. My point was that there have been 10′s of thousands of attacks on the US by Muslims in the name of Allah. That is a fact. Stop defending a religion that views you as an infidel and someone who should be killed if you do not follow their barbaric way of life.

AnonymousFinch said:
Completely false. Obama increased the national debt more in his first MONTH in office (i.e., the “stimulus”), then Bush did in his first TERM in office. Look into it.

Yeah, he bought a new house. But since you want to repeat Hannity’s insanity – what Bush didn’t tell anyone was that he had not “turned in his receipts for the war – until he was leaving office”. Go check it out. It’s available; how naive are you people? Do you really just watch Fox and repeat, watch and repeat like you’re washing your hair? It’s incredible from a Goebbels perspective that you do, but daymn – Those that gave their lives in WWII would probably not be amused that propaganda and brainwashing has entered into our Democracy masquerading as a Political Newz Organization.

James Gregory Backus said:
We’re not finished.

Dude, the Democratic Party is going to take a massive hit in a couple weeks; it might even be as bad of a blow the Republicans took in ’06.

James Gregory Backus said:
This is why America will turn out and vote Republicans out of office:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chase-whiteside/new-left-media-interviews_b_699897.html

HuffPost! God, this guy is the gift that keeps giving!

James Gregory Backus said:
Yeah, he bought a new house. But since you want to repeat Hannity’s insanity – what Bush didn’t tell anyone was that he had not “turned in his receipts for the war – until he was leaving office”. Go check it out. It’s available; how naive are you people? Do you really just watch Fox and repeat, watch and repeat like you’re washing your hair? It’s incredible from a Goebbels perspective that you do, but daymn – Those that gave their lives in WWII would probably not be amused that propaganda and brainwashing has entered into our Democracy masquerading as a Political Newz Organization.

You are kidding, right? I think we know what name Jesse Ventura posts under on this site.

espo222 said:
I am not a religious person, however I would like to know how Bush brought the country to its knees when there was a democratic house and senate for the majority of the time. Also, where exactly is all this oil we are stealing, shouldn’t gas prices be 5 cents a gallon by now. I guess Bush is stealing the oil and pumping it into his ranch in Crawford. My point was that there have been 10’s of thousands of attacks on the US by Muslims in the name of Allah. That is a fact. Stop defending a religion that views you as an infidel and someone who should be killed if you do not follow their barbaric way of life.

I’m not researching for trolls. Religious discrimination is wrong. Period. Ask Bush and the Republicans why they invaded an oil rich country and gas has gone up (by the way, you may have heard it was due to “oil speculation” not a shortage of…) How many religious crusades have the other religions been on (to balance out your 10s of thousands comment). Stop perpetuating stupidity.

espo222 said:
You are kidding, right? I think we know what name Jesse Ventura posts under on this site.

Beck is that you? You KKKrazy basterd!! LOL.

espo222 said:
Seems to me that it is better to be safe than sorry.

Sounds a little like, McCarthyism, the Japanese Internment camps, or the Salem Witch trials to me. It also doesn’t consider the multi billion dollar business ties we have with Muslim nations. It’s taken decades to get to this point and apart of the problem has been our consistent interference in the Middle East, not for justice or freedom, but for economic reasons. We’re not blameless and we won’t make things better by alienating 1.5 billion people.

espo222 said:
Don’t give me the line about muslims interpreting the koran differently. How do you interpret these passages in the wrong way:

You must kill those who worship another god. Exodus 22:20
Kill any friends or family that worship a god that is different than your own. Deuteronomy 13:6-10
Kill all the inhabitants of any city where you find people that worship differently than you. Deuteronomy 13:12-16
Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7
Kill anyone who refuses to listen to a priest. Deuteronomy 17:12-13
Kill any false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:20
Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11
Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5

espo222 said:
Most Christians go to church once a year, say grace during the holidays and pray every now and then. There are few christians who follow every word of the bible and the ones who do, only try to convert you, not kill you. Isn’t is odd that there is even a term “moderate muslims???”

There are fundamentalists in all religions and moderates in all religions. granted that right now, Islam has been used by some to fuel the fires of hatred against the west, but that doesn’t justify painting all Muslims with the same brush. That’s unjust, and not grounded in the reality of how diverse Islam is.

Nothing more funny than those cowardly liberals who need to run.

Rogue-Comic said:
Dude, the Democratic Party is going to take a massive hit in a couple weeks; it might even be as bad of a blow the Republicans took in ‘06.

Wishful thinking and what Fox and Deibold predict only. Most of us are tired of the lies of the GOP. Fixing Bush’s mess wasn’t a 2 year project – it’s a generation project – that’s how bad the GOP has been.

AnonymousFinch said:
Dane

I never said it was Ok for liberals to generalize the entire tea party as racist because it’s not, just as it’s not OK for you to generalize that all Liberals think that the tea party is racist. instead of trying to do an ad homein why not talk about the substance of the issue, oreilly was wrong to generalize that Muslims attacked america .Where is the poll that shows 1/3 of Muslims support al qaeda? And if u want to take into account international poll numbers, America popularity aboard is not that appealing.

Mr.Papshmer said:
HuffPost! God, this guy is the gift that keeps giving!

You obviously didn’t watch the clip – it’s your Teabaging Party in their own words. What’s your problem with that? Oh, it’s not from the Reich Wing Ministry of Lies at Faux Newz. Right – you don’t want to learn anything you must repeat your masters orders!

As noble as the liberal right thinks their cause for the total acceptance of Islam may sound, there’s no escaping the fact that the violent, bloodthirsty Muslim faction endangers the rest of the world. Unless Islam purges that group from itself, of if we can develop technology to effectively identify the homicidal fanatics, everyone else will have to regard Islam with some degree of suspicion. What other religion has 9/11, embassy bombings in Africa, the attac in Mumbai, the London subway bombing, the Madrid train station bombing, etc., in its recent history?

AnonymousFinch said: By this logic, why is it OK for liberals to cast aspersions upon millions of Tea Partiers as being racists because of a very, very few offensive signs?

This is the problem. Liberals have an intellectually dishonest theory of group responsibility for the acts of members of that group. The Tea Party is held to the strictest standard. ANY individual who misbehaves becomes representative of the entire group. Muslims, however, get the benefit of the doubt. There are international polls that say as much as 1/3 of the Muslim population of the world support al Qaeda. That’s 300,000,000+ people. Yet that does not–in the liberal world view–reflect poorly on Islam in any way, shape, or form.

I never said it was Ok for liberals to generalize the entire tea party as racist because it’s not, just as it’s not OK for you to generalize that all Liberals think that the tea party is racist. instead of trying to do an ad homein why not talk about the substance of the issue, oreilly was wrong to generalize that Muslims attacked america .Where is the poll that shows 1/3 of Muslims support al qaeda? And if u want to take into account international poll numbers, America popularity aboard is not that appealing.

Rogue-Comic said:
Someone gets it. =)

Oh I do. Generalizing can be a dangerous game

James Gregory Backus said:
Wishful thinking and what Fox and Deibold predict only..

Wishful thinking indeed.

I don’t agree with all the liberal bashing on here, and I think there is alot of bad behavior on TV on both sides of the political spectrum.

But I have to agree that this was immature and unprofessional of Goldberg and Behar. Barbara Walters was right and was right to call them out on their walk-off. They are hosts of the show, after all, and he was the guest. The only time I might agree with this is if the roles were reversed, they were guests on his show, and he was attacking them personally. But their response here also undermines their credibility because some may perceive or conclude that their own arguments are based more on emotion than logic, when actually they had a point and O’Reilly issued at least a half apology or retraction about his over-generalization of Muslims. They’re professionals and they should be prepared for the antics of well-known blowhards like O’Reilly who get off on pushing each other’s buttons.

Personally I don’t think they should have folks of his ilk from either the right or left on their show. But The View purposelys bring on controversial and offensive guests in order to increase ratings; the producers will probably be laughing all the way to the bank. I don’t watch the show enough to know if this scenario is a pattern, but if so, they should get rid of Goldberg and Behar and replace them with leveler heads. I wish I was a fly on the wall when Walters dressed down Behar and Goldberg later on. ;-)

James Gregory Backus said:
And Priests are good role models for boys.

And WTF does that have to do with Timothy McVeigh being an agnostic? When you resort to ridiculous ad hominem and gratuitous insults, you’re clearly losing the argument.

Whoopi is factually wrong. McVeigh was neither a Christian, nor was he acting on behalf of Christianity. His actions were not celebrated by Christian clergy, of any denomination in any church. The same can NOT be said for the actions of the September 11th Islamicists. They were lauded by a fair number of Muslim Imams, and throngs of Muslims in Islamic theocracies cheered in the streets.

espo222 said:
I am not a religious person, however I would like to know how Bush brought the country to its knees when there was a democratic house and senate for the majority of the time. Also, where exactly is all this oil we are stealing, shouldn’t gas prices be 5 cents a gallon by now. I guess Bush is stealing the oil and pumping it into his ranch in Crawford. My point was that there have been 10’s of thousands of attacks on the US by Muslims in the name of Allah. That is a fact. Stop defending a religion that views you as an infidel and someone who should be killed if you do not follow their barbaric way of life.

In the last two years of his Presidency – but if you want me to list his attacks on America:
If we took the Trillions spent on Bush’s Wars and put that towards America – how much better off would we be? Much. Republicans – willing to spend Trillions of our US Tax Dollars on illegal wars and nothing on America. A vote for a Republican is a vote for America to Fail.

Illegal war in Iraq = Bush
Arms for Hostages = Reagan
Arming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2
Watergate = Nixon
Abandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = Bush
Stealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000
Worst economy in 90 years = Bush
Worst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = Bush
Most Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = Bush
Spent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = Bush
Torture = Bush 2
Wire-Tapping American Citizens = Bush
Outing a CIA Agent = Bush/Cheny/Rove
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Republicans
Coming soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

sarainitaly said:
Every time anything happens the Left goes full on postal accusing the “repubathugs” or “teabaggers” for it. Amy Bishop, the plane crasher, the shooters, the FED census guy… Now Olby and Tingles are blaming the fire burning and the Chile miner accident on tea partiers (or their ideology). And of course, we all know the entire party of “teabaggers” as they so loving like to call them, are racists. But GOD FORBID O’Reilly state that Muslims attacked us on 9/11.

Paranoid much? Boo! Beck!!!

The crusades were a long time ago. When was the last time someone of the Catholic faith walked into a church full of people and blew up a bomb in the name of Jesus??? Hey, we put Japan in it’s place and now the make tv’s for us, so the camps didn’t turn out so bad, did they? Islam is a disgusting, brain-washing” cult and the world would be much better off without it. That is a fact. People can bash Christianity all they want, but Catholics are not the ones who behead their family members or stone them for going on a date with someone of another faith. There are a lot of videos of thousands and thousands of muslims cheering on 9/11. I guess they were ALL radicals.

notsofast said:
Bill Moyers????

LOL

I’ll ask again, since you had no answer the first time.

Where are the charges and why is Gitmo still open and why does BHO still use rendition?

Come on, child- answer!

I try not to engage with morons as much as I have with you – but I’ll say it again, then you should have someone explain it to you:

Bush Broke It – We Bought It.

Run along little one and have a grown up explain it to you.

notsofast said:
LOL

Every year Bush was in office, the unemployment rate was less than what BHO has done.

Why don’t you tell me how much better the employment was in 1496 idiot.

Something similar to this once happened on a Gordon Bloyer braodcast once. Gordon was having a debate with his comb over once and the faux wood paneling walked out. It was so disturbing that he was barely able to upload it to YouTube…..

AND WHERE WERE YOU LIBERULS THEN???

AnonymousFinch said:
By this logic, why is it OK for liberals to cast aspersions upon millions of Tea Partiers as being racists because of a very, very few offensive signs?

This is the problem. Liberals have an intellectually dishonest theory of group responsibility for the acts of members of that group. The Tea Party is held to the strictest standard. ANY individual who misbehaves becomes representative of the entire group. Muslims, however, get the benefit of the doubt. There are international polls that say as much as 1/3 of the Muslim population of the world support al Qaeda. That’s 300,000,000+ people. Yet that does not–in the liberal world view–reflect poorly on Islam in any way, shape, or form.

I agree with you and continue to remind liberals that blanket insults against groups is unacceptable. I won’t argue % with on Muslims because I really don’t know, but I know we are partly responsible for the conflict we are in at this point in history and there is no simple solution. We’ve had thousands of troops in the ME for years and we’ve killed 100 times more Muslims than they’ve killed Americans, including plenty of civilians women and children. How do you expect people to react to that? How would we if the situation was reversed?

Republitarian said:
And WTF does that have to do with Timothy McVeigh being an agnostic? When you resort to ridiculous ad hominem and gratuitous insults, you’re clearly losing the argument.

Whoopi is factually wrong. McVeigh was neither a Christian, nor was he acting on behalf of Christianity. His actions were not celebrated by Christian clergy, of any denomination in any church. The same can NOT be said for the actions of the September 11th Islamicists. They were lauded by a fair number of Muslim Imams, and throngs of Muslims in Islamic theocracies cheered in the streets.

Islamic Extremists meet Christian Extremists both celebrate ignorance and blind faith indoctrinations into “blame” aka – “it’s always someone else s fault that their lives are miserable. The Saudi Terrorists (aka Muslim Extremists in this case) are not representative of all Muslims (unlike the GOP in their goose-stepping) – if they are, I guess you should go hunting Muhammad Ali and others living in America. By the way, you can thank King George Bush for creating the next wave of orphaned extremists – Bush was a recruiting genius for them.

James Gregory Backus said:
You can’t debate stupid – for example: O’Donnell vs. Coons, I’m sure you’ve seen the embarrassment that your party represents. Why do you celebrate being stupid. It just boggles the mind. Stupid has no shame, so prove my point.

You’ve just proven mine.

gordonbloyershow said:
That never happened. You are ONE brainwashed fool.

You need to go to Arizona.
Don’t post your photo here. You lib friends will make fun of you because you are bald.

Yeah, I’m one of the 308 Million Americans who isn’t brainwashed – as Fox does not write my talking points; I’m acting on truth, fact and science – you guys call that being Liberal. Jan Brewer is killing Arizona and you’ll be happy to know, unlike you – I have a full head of hair.

I guess I should make one final comment – If you think I’M BRAINWASHED – you must have been in a Terri Shiavo coma from 2000-2008.

felixw said:
You’ve just proven mine.

You did it!!! Yah you!!!

James Gregory Backus said:
sarainitaly said:
Every time anything happens the Left goes full on postal accusing the “repubathugs” or “teabaggers” for it. Amy Bishop, the plane crasher, the shooters, the FED census guy… Now Olby and Tingles are blaming the fire burning and the Chile miner accident on tea partiers (or their ideology). And of course, we all know the entire party of “teabaggers” as they so loving like to call them, are racists. But GOD FORBID O’Reilly state that Muslims attacked us on 9/11.

Paranoid much? Boo! Beck!!!

Uninformed much?

Something in my paragraph that you find to be false?

James Gregory Backus said:
Islamic Extremists meet Christian Extremists both celebrate ignorance and blind faith indoctrinations into “blame” aka – “it’s always someone else s fault that their lives are miserable. The Saudi Terrorists (aka Muslim Extremists in this case) are not representative of all Muslims (unlike the GOP in their goose-stepping) – if they are, I guess you should go hunting Muhammad Ali and others living in America. By the way, you can thank King George Bush for creating the next wave of orphaned extremists – Bush was a recruiting genius for them.

Again, I’m not sure what that has to do with Timothy McVeigh being an agnostic. But, I’m sure in your oddly-functioning brain, it makes some kind of sense. Good for you.

espo222 said:
Islam is a disgusting, brain-washing” cult and the world would be much better off without it. That is a fact. People can bash Christianity all they want, but Catholics are not the ones who behead their family members or stone them for going on a date with someone of another faith. There are a lot of videos of thousands and thousands of muslims cheering on 9/11. I guess they were ALL radicals.

Maybe we can just outlaw all religion and that way we won’t have to worry about anymore evil cults ever.

Do have any idea of how many people we’ve killed in the name of country and liberty etc. in the last 8 years.

espo222 said:
The crusades were a long time ago.

Yes they were. And it would be unfair to demonize all Christians for what was done back then. So, maybe we have to wait 400 years before getting to a point where we can say “oh, not all muslims are like that.”

Austin Reagan said:
As noble as the liberal right thinks their cause for the total acceptance of Islam may sound, there’s no escaping the fact that the violent, bloodthirsty Muslim faction endangers the rest of the world. Unless Islam purges that group from itself, of if we can develop technology to effectively identify the homicidal fanatics, everyone else will have to regard Islam with some degree of suspicion. What other religion has 9/11, embassy bombings in Africa, the attac in Mumbai, the London subway bombing, the Madrid train station bombing, etc., in its recent history?

do you suppose when Muslims get gunned down in the streets by Americans or blown apart by drones, they thank us for sharing our vision of liberty. Yes, there are parts of Islam that is barbaric, but why do we ignore and justify years our troops killing Muslims, all the while pointing out how bad they are compared to how civilized we are.

James Gregory Backus said:
you’ll be happy to know, unlike you – I have a full head of hair.

Um, dude. People can link to your facebook profile here. Just trying to help out.

bealzebubba said:
Yes they were. And it would be unfair to demonize all Christians for what was done back then. So, maybe we have to wait 400 years before getting to a point where we can say “oh, not all muslims are like that.”

I think you miss the point. It’s unfair to “demonize all Christians” today for the actions of Christians some 400 years ago PRECISELY because Christianity reformed itself. It changed. This is something that Islam, thus far, has been willing to do. However, it would have been more than fine, in fact it would have been factually accurate to describe Christianity – as practiced by the majority – in the 14th and 15th centuries as “barbaric”. Of course, the same could be said about contemporary Islam. Every country where we see Islam as the prevaling, controlling religion, we see religious-sanctioned persecution of homosexuals, adulterers, non-believers, women and children. To ignore that is whistling past the graveyard.

In this country, we’re having a public debate about the bullying of gay teens, and the rights of gays to serve openly in the military and to rights of gays to marry. In EVERY Muslim country, “coming out” very well may mean a death sentence – a death sentence championed by Muslim Imams. Despite the criticism of gays by traditional and conservative Christian theologians NOT ONE calls for, condones, supports or tolerates violence against homosexuals. THAT is the difference between modern Christianity, and contemporary Islam.

Bill Mahwer said:
More Thin Skinned leftism.

They are taking their cues from the President.

Moronic Fleabagger……..Go back and live in the sewer from where you came from Pinhead!!! If you cannot live by the Constitution then you can go live somewhere else that supports you Reichwing agenda commrade!!!!

espo222 said:
You are right. Please tell that to the moderate muslims who treat their wives like 4th class citizens. The focus should be on training the muslims to assimilate to a civilized society, not to teach Americans to be sensitive to muslim beliefs.

It’s unfortunate we have to remind Americans to follow the principles this nation was founded on. It doesn’t matter if it’s Muslim , Buddhist, Hindu or whatever. We treat people with basic human respect, regardless of religion , until they do something that breaks the law.
I have a hard time understanding why it’s so hard for supposedly civilized people to understand a basic principle we’ve dealt with before.
If Black Americans blame all white people for the prejudice and injustice of a few we call that racism. Yet somehow people seem to justify making blanket statements about 1.5 billion Muslims and condemning an entire religion. I honestly don’t get it.

James Gregory Backus said:
Yeah – blame the poor and out of work that the Republican Party has created as they take the tax breaks and ship their work to third world countries

Both parties are fully responsible for this. To say otherwise in asinine.

James Gregory Backus said:
child labor and no legal concerns as far as to the slave wages and labor being done.

Are you talking about the help the Pelosi family uses at their winery?

James Gregory Backus said:
If we took the Trillions spent on Bush’s Wars and put that towards America – how much better off would we be?

Trillions? LOL

James Gregory Backus said:
Propaganda on American Airwaves – Fox is the only propaganda station in America. Proven.

Okey dokey Sparky, whatever you say.

James Gregory Backus said:
The 8 years of prosperity during the Clinton years eats at the little minds of the Reich-Wing – true.

WJ Clinton added 1.7 trillion dollars to the debt during his “8 years of prosperity.” With 1.7 trillion dollars added during the unprecidented economic explosion that was the internet, he has NOTHING to be proud of.

James Gregory Backus said:
the Republican attorney that was trying to prosecute Clinton on the BJ was talking about how much worse the BUSH crimes were….Dope.

And in June 2000 a panel of 16 judges from 11 countries at a people’s tribunal meeting in New York found WJ Clinton and NATO political and military leaders guilty of war crimes against Yugoslavia in the March 24-June 10, 1999 assault on that country. Guess daily bombing raids killing innocents were OK when it was Clinton, huh?

James Gregory Backus said:
Didn’t think Quayle could be topped you give us W. Didn’t think it could get any worse and you give us Palin – thought you hit rock bottom and you give us Angle, O’Donnell and Miller to prove stupid has no bottom!

Stupid is definitely limitless. Just look….Alan Grayson, Nancy Pelosi, Dennis Kucinich, Maxine Waters, Chuck Schumer, Al Franken, Alvin Greene, Roland Burris, Bernie Sanders, Barney Frank………

I do hope that the unprecidented level of stupid (19 year old dip shits prodded to the polls by Jamie Foxx and Leo DiCaprio) that elected Obama was rock bottom. We couldn’t go any lower.

James Gregory Backus said:
We’re in Iraq because Haliburton and the Republicans saw an opportunity

Simpleton shit like this just makes you sound like a dummy. Iraq was handled poorly, no doubt (and supported by both Repubs and Dems) but the conspiracy theory stuff is pathetic.

James Gregory Backus said:
King George W. Bush proved so ably as he brought our country to its knees.

Take away Iraq and GW Bush was a friggin liberal! Of course liberals hammer him on Iraq….on social spending, he was ONE OF THEM! No Child Left Behind with Kennedy, an 18% annual increase in education spending, record amounts of money to inner city schools, Medicare prescription drug benefit, record multibillion-dollar fund to fight AIDS globally, tripled financial aid to Africa, American Dream Downpayment Act (zero downpayment loans for poor people) and I could go on and on and on.

Still, nothing compares to the spending of the current President, who in 20 short, disastrous months has added over 3 trillion dollars to the national debt. Why are now in deep shit? Three free spending liberals in the White House in a row, led by far by BH Obama who is blowing borrowed and printed money so fast he reminds one of Monty Brewster in Brewsters’ Millions.

Too bad they didn’t just keep walking… away…. far, far away.

Islam is just as much a political movement as it is a religion. It’s that simple. Can you name for me a single Muslim country that celebrates freedom of speech, to include the practice of non-Muslim religions? Can you name a single Muslim country that offers the basic protection for human rights as is seen in Europe and the US?

Of course you can’t. Why? Because Islam – when it’s fully realized as a governing principle, does NOT allow. Islam is not “peace” it’s submission. When popular, well-respected Muslim Imams say that there will not be peace until the Islamic flag flies over the White House, we should take them at their word.

The minority cadre of hypocritical Lefties that fall all over themselves defending the “VICTORY MOSQUE”, are the very same ones who routinely condemn the flying of the CONFEDERATE FLAG!!

Seems it’s OK to DISCIMINATE against symbols of groups the Left villifies, but not the ones they Laud!

Republitarian said:
Islam is just as much a political movement as it is a religion. It’s that simple. Can you name for me a single Muslim country that celebrates freedom of speech, to include the practice of non-Muslim religions? Can you name a single Muslim country that offers the basic protection for human rights as is seen in Europe and the US?

Of course you can’t. Why? Because Islam – when it’s fully realized as a governing principle, does NOT allow. Islam is not “peace” it’s submission. When popular, well-respected Muslim Imams say that there will not be peace until the Islamic flag flies over the White House, we should take them at their word.

Why don’t you go do some research you Moron…..Yeah, we all know where you get your talking points from…..Mr. Vicks Vapor Rub Glenn Beck. Try reading sometime….

The only country that is not of Religious Freedom is the country that WE get Our Oil from, Saudi Arabia…….Amazing, the country that you despise is were we get our energy from………Otherwise if you do your research you’ll find that Egyt, Iraq, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, most of the middle eastern countries practice all three faiths…..I guess Bill O was right 70% of the Americans need to go back to school and learn something…..HUH!

James Gregory Backus said:
Bush was embarrassing – but my God – Republicans are just horrible ignorant people incapable of reason and understanding. Didn’t think Quayle could be topped you give us W. Didn’t think it could get any worse and you give us Palin – thought you hit rock bottom and you give us Angle, O’Donnell and Miller to prove stupid has no bottom! And of course the coup d’etat are the Teabaging bloggers and “workathome.com” marketers echoing the BS from the Ministry of Lies that is Ailes/Luntz and the RNC at Faux Newz. Sheep. You can’t be educated because you’re brainwashed. Ignorance is America’s problem and to quote the Daily Mail when Bush stole the election in 2004 – “How can 54 million people be so dumb!” To that I say, we as educated Americans don’t know, but it seems to start with the dumbing down at Jesus Camp, through TV Evangelicals, through Republican indoctrination Camp to Christian Universities where science and fact are inconvenient actions to their idiocy. Incredible how the GOP has traded intelligence in for blind, ignorant faith. God is not amused. Play with yourself RNC trolls – you say nothing of truth fact or interest. Probably how you became Republicans in the first place.

I have yet to see you type one thing that isn’t incendiary bomb-throwing, so how can you honestly believe that you’re going to inspire any sort of positive debate?

The answer : You don’t. You, like far too many others (such as Ted or GBR), are just trying to participate in some warped political sort of ‘ethnic-cleansing’ (for lack of a better term).

How can liberals discuss anything with ignorant, stubbornly stupid people that do not believe in science and think evolution is an UNPROVEN theory.

You can’t. These people or under-educated and panderd to by the rich elite whom want to keep them ignorant and dumb.

Read a book you right wing-nuts.

O’Reilly is a shill for big money.

That is

On the other hand, what makes Bill O a expert on terrorism…….He seems to think because he is a lowlife journalist he is an expert! The man started his career out on Inside Edition…..That’s how much of an expert he is!

He is the biggest pinhead of them all…..No, I’m not wasting my money on that piece of rag he calls a book! He only writes them so he can make more money off of the suckers who follow him……..

Whyputaname said:
Why don’t you go do some research you Moron

Wow, that’s intellectual.

Mr.Papshmer said:
This dude makes Ted look smart. A new meaning to the word “dumb”

My ant farm makes Ted look smart.

Founders_were_Liberal said:
How can liberals discuss anything with ignorant, stubbornly stupid people that do not believe in science and think evolution is an UNPROVEN theory. That is

Now that is no way to talk about Muslims!

Kitsune said:
I have yet to see you type one thing that isn’t incendiary bomb-throwing, so how can you honestly believe that you’re going to inspire any sort of positive debate?

The answer : You don’t. You, like far too many others (such as Ted or GBR), are just trying to participate in some warped political sort of ‘ethnic-cleansing’ (for lack of a better term).

I agree. Insults flying as fast as people can type. It’s a sad example set by both sides.

I think it all comes down to how much we value universal freedom and the 1st amendment. If we believe those principles have only limited value, we can easily suspend those values because doing can always be justified by the sins of others.

If we hold freedom, including freedom of religion, in high value, we will always fight to protect those values, for everyone, irrespective of the sins of others.

I hold universal freedom, including the freedom of religion, to be of enormous value. It cannot and should NEVER be mitigated!

That’s my libertarian opinion.

“The constitutional freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights.” –Thomas Jefferson
Marla

Founders_were_Liberal said:
Alz

The Founders were Conservative. The country was founded on Individual Freedom and Limited Government – both of which are the oppoiste goals of today’s Modern Liberals/Progressives.

Marla Louise said:
I think it all comes down to how much we value universal freedom and the 1st amendment. If we believe those principles have only limited value, we can easily suspend those values because doing can always be justified by the sins of others. If we hold freedom, including freedom of religion, in high value, we will always fight to protect those values, for everyone, irrespective of the sins of others. I hold universal freedom, including the freedom of religion, to be of enormous value. It cannot and should NEVER be mitigated! That’s my libertarian opinion. “The constitutional freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights.” –Thomas JeffersonMarla

But to Modern Liberals/Progressives, just about any kind of freedom is consdiered bad. The only freedoms that are good (to them) are freedoms that are opposed to our Judeo-Christian foundations.

It would have been wonderful if those two big mouth, fat asses, had just kept walking…..off the face of the planet. Well at least to have kept going till they reached some socialist country of their choosing. And especially nice if they’d take some other big mouth, fat asses, like Edie Schultz and her girlfriend, Alan Grayson. Then those four could get the 96% of Hollywood that are raging liberal loons, along with all the code pink’O's, tree huggers, and all the other wackie extremists on the left side of reality with them and ride off into the sunset as us sane Americans wave them good riddance!.

James Gregory Backus said:
Republican have “hi-jacked” Christianity as some divine provenance to America. All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.

So Christianity in America isn’t good because it has been hijacked by extremists, but Islam in America is good even though it has been hijacked by extremists?

Wow, the rules are confusing.

America voted Republicans out of office in 2006….thank you for acknowledging that. Now if the media would simply understand that when the public gave the keys to the democrats in 06, the economy started to tank.

It always makes me laugh how the idiotic media never reminds viewers it was when Queen Nancy and King Harry took over that the country started falling apart.

But thanks to intelligence posters such as yourself, you bring the facts to the table. Good job.

James Gregory Backus said:
Illegal war in Iraq = BushArms for Hostages = ReaganArming the axis of evil = Reagan, Bush 1 & Bush 2Watergate = NixonAbandoning US Citizens during a natural disaster for over a week/Katrina = BushStealing and election and obstructing counting votes = Republican’s 2000Worst economy in 90 years = BushWorst Terrorist Attack on American soil in our history = BushMost Vacation Time by an acting President 3 1/2 of 8 years = BushSpent Trillions of US Tax Dollars on Illegal war = BushTorture = Bush 2Wire-Tapping American Citizens = BushPropaganda on American Airwaves – RepublicansComing soon if they get into office – Profiling (AZ)

Internment of Japanese Americans = FDR
USS Cole = Clinton
Somalia/BlackHawk Down = Clinton
Iran Hostage Crisis = Carter
Largest oil spill in Gulf history = Obama
Only impeachment of a US president in our lifetime = Clinton
Escape of Bin Laden to Afghanistan = Clinton
$719000 FEC fine for selling access to the president = Clinton
21% interest, 13.5% inflation = Carter

This election is the first step to taking over the Republican Party, and purging the “Ruling Class” (Democrats & RINO’s) from power!!

$144 Billiob in Wall Street Bonuses! —– 9.6% Unemployment!!

That’s the RESULTS of Obama’s “Hope & Change”!

He SNOOKERED all you idiots who buy into his Egalitarian Demagoguery!!! – But his pals at Goldman Sachs LOVE HIM!

Republitarian said:
I think you miss the point.

No, I get that….there’s an obvious difference between contemporary christianity and contemporary islam , no question there. But I think christianity’s ability to……umm…PROGRESS..was facilitated by the culture it was prominent in. Western culture has been the leading edge on many fronts so it makes sense. Now, there are exceptions: look at the Amish and Mennonites.

My point, however was that maybe in 400 years (give or take 100) Islam will have progressed too. Maybe it wont, but eradicating it isn’t the answer…and just so we’re clear, I’m not claiming that I’ve heard anyone say that it is in this thread. I do, however, hear and see people elude to it all the time…but I do live in Georgia.

Something, I was wondering, though…when was the first documented Muslim terrorist attack? Did anything happen before WWII

One might say fox tools like o’reilly have gotten rich insulting the intelligence of their viewers, but that would insinuate their viewers have intelligence. However, this smug asshole does not play well when exposed to people who can make all the lights to work.

290 Comments?!?!?!

O’Reilly sometimes even gets under my skin, but I have to admit that I just love the way he chews progressives up and spits them out like worn-out chewing gum.

Behar & Goldberg are a couple of cheap trollops. They couldn’t match O’Reilly’s cerebral level so they
had to run away and hide.

God decided to create the perfect brainless invertebrate. First he created jellyfish. That was practice. Then he created progressives and perfection was achieved.

James Gregory Backus said:
Teabaging Party .. Reich Wing .. Faux Newz

You have covered several of the cliches that retards use on us “normies” when they can’t win a debate point. However, you’ve missed.

- Beckerhead
- wingnut
- Rethuglican

Oh, and Ted can teach you “asshole”, Paul can teach you “fuck you” and “douchebag”. Of course, that’s kind of like saying “tit”, they’re just kind of cute words.

Stratdude said:
However, this smug asshole does not play well when exposed to people who can make all the lights to work.

Spoken like a true (uneducated) dipshit.

HostileLogic said:
O’Reilly sometimes even gets under my skin, but I have to admit that I just love the way he chews progressives up and spits them out like worn-out chewing gum. Behar & Goldberg are a couple of cheap trollops. They couldn’t match O’Reilly’s cerebral level so theyhad to run away and hide. God decided to create the perfect brainless invertebrate. First he created jellyfish. That was practice. Then he created progressives and perfection was achieved.

LOL! Yeah, Behar and Goldberg should have treated Bill O with the same respect he would have shown them: Shut up! Shut up! :cuts mike:

Alz said:
But to Modern Liberals/Progressives, just about any kind of freedom is consdiered bad. The only freedoms that are good (to them) are freedoms that are opposed to our Judeo-Christian foundations.

I really don’t think that is true, but even if it is true, is that justification to restrict religious freedom?

Understand the basic argument of O’Reily’s here. He is saying that the sins of Arab Muslims justifies restricting the religious freedoms of American Muslims.

If one puts a low value on religious freedom, then perhaps O’Reily is right. The sins of the others can justify the restrictions of religious freedom on Americans. BUT if Jefferson is right, if “freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights”, then O’Reily must be utterly wrong.

Marla

James Gregory Backus said:
Yeah, I’m one of the 308 Million Americans who isn’t brainwashed – as Fox does not write my talking points; I’m acting on truth, fact and science – you guys call that being Liberal. Jan Brewer is killing Arizona and you’ll be happy to know, unlike you – I have a full head of hair.

Brewer will win reelection by a large margin. Are you telling me that photo on Facebook isn’t YOU? You are not the bald guy? Sooooooooo you are just another lib liar hiding behind a phony name and photo?

James Gregory Backus said:
I try not to engage with morons as much as I have with you – but I’ll say it again, then you should have someone explain it to you:
Bush Broke It – We Bought It.
Run along little one and have a grown up explain it to you.

Wow, do you know how many stupid comments you have made on just this page? You are INSANE. Almost nothing you have posted is remotely true. Where do you get that phony info? Oh, I know, The Huffington Post. You need a doctor pal. You are delusional.

bealzebubba said:
Something, I was wondering, though…when was the first documented Muslim terrorist attack? Did anything happen before WWII

Muslim pirates – known as Barbary Corsairs – were largely responsible for the formation of the US Navy in the late 18th century. The irony is America has been at war with Islamic “radicals” almost since the birth of the nation. This isn’t a knew problem. What is knew is the lethality of asymmetrical warfare. Technology allows underfunded and over-matched adversaries to level the playing field – figuratively and literally.

With respect to your examples about the Amish, it’s actually a good one that illustrates the STARK difference between fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam. As you point out, America does have its share of Christian fundamentalist that wish to live life the way it was lived centuries ago. It’s certainly not for me or probably for you, but it’s the way they wish to live. That’s fine. Here’s the difference though – they wish to live that way in peace, absent conflict with everyone and anyone else. Why? Because that’s what their faith teaches them – to live peacefully. Islam, OTOH, teaches (for a significant percentage of Muslims) that people should submit to its will, or be forced to. Christianity ask that people accept Christ as Savior, of their own free will. Even the most fundamental of Christians believes in Free Will, quite unlike the most fundamental of Muslims.

gordonbloyershow said:
Brewer will win reelection by a large margin. Are you telling me that photo on Facebook isn’t YOU? You are not the bald guy? Sooooooooo you are just another lib liar hiding behind a phony name and photo?

Heh, indeed! Mr. Gordon B. Show does not need to hide behind any phony names or photos! He has nothing to lose that he hasn’t already lost, except for a cable-access show in a thriving metropolis of Indiana.

gordonbloyershow said:
Wow, do you know how many stupid comments you have made on just this page? You are INSANE. Almost nothing you have posted is remotely true. Where do you get that phony info? Oh, I know, The Huffington Post. You need a doctor pal. You are delusional.

Yeah! That lieberal is gonna get it now that he is in Mr. Gordon B. Show’s crosshairs! You don’t mess with a man who once had his call to Rush Limbaugh on the air!

Is Whoopi still worried about being a slave…..again?

A multimillionaire living the surreal life. Worried about being a slave…….again.

Blair Maury said:
Something similar to this once happened on a Gordon Bloyer braodcast once. Gordon was having a debate with his comb over once and the faux wood paneling walked out. It was so disturbing that he was barely able to upload it to YouTube…..

LOL, Why do you keep making a fool out of yourself? Anybody that views my current video knows I don’t have a comb over. Do you really think people are blind? I don’t care about people lying about things like that it only makes you look stupid. Do you think I am someone that cares about comments about my appearance? If I was would I post photos and videos? I am just trying to understand why fools like you would want to make yourself look stupid?

Marla Louise said:
I really don’t think that is true, but even if it is true, is that justification to restrict religious freedom? Understand the basic argument of O’Reily’s here. He is saying that the sins of Arab Muslims justifies restricting the religious freedoms of American Muslims. If one puts a low value on religious freedom, then perhaps O’Reily is right. The sins of the others can justify the restrictions of religious freedom on Americans. BUT if Jefferson is right, if “freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights”, then O’Reily must be utterly wrong. Marla

O’Reilly said no such thing. You seem to be as dense as Behar.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
We could say the same for you before notsosmart came along. The only intelligent conservatives here seem to be liberty and andy lamb

Are you mad because I left you off the list? Poor baby, OK you are also one of dumbest people on this site.
Does that make you feel better?

The Real Royal King said:
Good for them. Let’s end xenophobia now!

Hey King, how come it’s xenophobia when people question the symbolism of a Muslim “Victory Mosque” (as many see it); but it’s not RACIST BIGOTRY when they question the symbolism of the Confederate Flag?

gordonbloyershow said:
LOL, Why do you keep making a fool out of yourself? Anybody that views my current video knows I don’t have a comb over.

Yeah! Mr. Gordon B. Show was having a compelling interview with the Assistant Deputy to the Undersecretary of Sewers for Okomo, Indiana when the wood paneling walked out!

TruthLovinFreedomLover said:
LOL! Yeah, Behar and Goldberg should have treated Bill O with the same respect he would have shown them: Shut up! Shut up! :cuts mike:

Just to straighten you out, since you are truth lovin’ and all, Bill O’Reilly has never told a guest on his show to shut up, and he has never cut a guest’s mike. You may be mixing Bill up with your likely hero Keith “Al Bundy” Olbermann, when he basically told his co-worker Joe Scarborough he was full of shit on the air.

Dave Richards said:
O’Reilly said no such thing. You seem to be as dense as Behar.

Then what is Reilly’s justification for restricting the religious freedom of Americans?

I couldn’t tell with his continual shouting of “Muslims killed us on 9/11″

Dave Richards said:
O’Reilly said no such thing. You seem to be as dense as Behar.

Sigh, my apologies for the last post, I was too flippant. If I am wrong on assessing O’Reilly’s arguments, please tell me what they are. I am willing to listen. But what I would like to hear are the core arguments.

But was he not using the terrorist attack, i.e. the sins of Arab Muslims, to justify restricting where Americans could build a religious community center? It really sounded like that to me.

Marla

gordonbloyershow said:
Are you mad because I left you off the list? Poor baby, OK you are also one of dumbest people on this site.
Does that make you feel better?

Basil – stop your insipid whining. Rumor has it that BillO was offered a falafel and a free bowl of soup for his trouble and he graciously accepted. Which is more than I can say for you mini-me.

The Real Royal King said:
290 Comments?!?!?!

Everybody loves the view.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
See? This is why we don’t take you seriously.

LOL

YOU are the one who says Jews are a race, you fool!

murphy0071 said:
No-So-Fast proves every statement that he is an unmitigated idiot.

No, but you judt did.

Refute what I said, libby.

Oh, you can’t? Well, STFU!

Marla Louise said:
Then what is Reilly’s justification for restricting the religious freedom of Americans?

This is the problem when you get trapped in the paradigm that your puppetmasters have led you in to. This is not about religious freedom, and never has been.

So I’ll ask you, when people protest Neo-Nazi’s when they get their marching permits, are they protesting the Nazi’s right to march? (maybe some, I suppose) No, for the most part, they’re protesting the message and the messenger. It’s called American discourse. Yes, it can get ugly sometimes.

When the good little useful idiots were protesting bankers outside of their homes, was it because the bankers had done anything illegal? How ’bout when city or county zoning rules are altered under pressure by the leftists and unions for the sole purpose of keeping out a Wal-Mart?

What normal people are trying to do in the case of the victory mosque is to pressure the muslims into not building it. It’s called “public pressure”, and it happens _all_ the time. The reason the left goes nuts about this case is because, for once, it’s conservatives doing the pressuring. You never hear a peep out of the progs when some anti-war group holds up traffic or causes mischief, so take your indignation and shove it.

Hey, libs, did “radical” Japanese attack us on Dec. 7, 1941?

Did “extremist” Nazis declare war on the USA?

LOL

notsofast said:
Hey, libs, did “radical” Japanese attack us on Dec. 7, 1941?

Did “extremist” Nazis declare war on the USA?

LOL

Hey dip shit. Does your mullet ever stop sniffing glue?

And remind me, why the hell is this important?. 2 useless Hollywood programed twits walk off because they get challenged? So what!. It is like watching a Hitchens debate with Galloway and your sitting watching Galloway melt. At least he stays in it though.

These clowns , and that is what they are, 2 washed up comedians, take their ball and walk away. 2 minutes spewing the garbage that made them famous for 15 minutes, decades ago, would probably get them killed anywhere in the M.E.

And here’s some news, Liberals play the Muslim victim sympathy card on TV, forget they are hated in Muslim world and their ” support for all things “victim” doesn’t buy them a single shred of sympathy or acclaim anywhere other than at the cocktail parties that follow the television award season circle jerks.

I wonder what producer backstage had to point at the two and say “you get your asses back on that set, NOW!”

Tee Hee.

Oh, also if McViegh were a Catholic they’d blame it on the church, if he were a Mormon, they’d blame it on Glenn Beck, if he were an Athiest, they’d blame it on being “just like Stalin!” It was his ideology that was the problem, just like it’s the political aspects of Islam that are the problem here. Islam isn’t just a religion, it’s also political ideology and the two should not be confused.

Cancone and gordonblows are sooooooo much more accomplished than anyone else in the whole wide world ……OW8, here’s gordonblows resume right from his fat little age spotted hands!

Gordon Bloyer has been called an assman by Ronn Owens of KGO radio in San Francisco. Rush Limbaugh read from a letter by Gordon on his national radio show while beating off to it. President Ronald Reagan invited Gordon to the White House to thank him for his hairpiece. When Gordon speaks people vomit. He has appeared on numerous radio and television shows and was never asked back. His letters and articles have been banned in many publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, San Francisco Examiner, Washington Times, USA Today, Monterey Herald, San Mateo Times, San Jose Mercury, Gary Post-Tribune, Hammond Times and the San Francisco Progress.

Wow is Mr Magoo for real or should i say James Backus? What an idiot,.

Illegal war? The congress of the untied states voted to authorize Pres Bush to send US troops to the middle east.

Left US citizens in New Orleans a week before taking action? Learn federal law. The federal government cannot send a stick of gum into a state in an emergency until the governor request federal disaster aid. After Governor Chocolate city finally sent in a request federal aid was on the ground with in 24 hours. Also dozens of aid trucks were NOT ALLOWED to enter the city by the local officials because they did not want the superdome to be a permanent shelter.

Illegally wire tapped US citizens?. Again wrong as usual no domestic conversations were wire tapped without court order. All warrant less wire taps had at least one of the partners located outside the US and ON a watch list. BTW the did you ever hear of operation echelon? The Clinton administration used it to listen in on DOMESTIC telephone conversations, text messages and emails WITHOUT a court order. Lets not forget the 500 FBI files that illegally found their way to the White house during the early days of the Clinton administration.

But all in all i would be willing to meet Islamic fundamentalist half way. How about we allow Sharia law to be enforced in one state in the US first and see how it plays out. How about we try it in California first and go from there.

Mr.Papshmer said:
This is the problem when you get trapped in the paradigm that your puppetmasters have led you in to. This is not about religious freedom, and never has been.

So I’ll ask you, when people protest Neo-Nazi’s when they get their marching permits, are they protesting the Nazi’s right to march? (maybe some, I suppose) No, for the most part, they’re protesting the message and the messenger. It’s called American discourse. Yes, it can get ugly sometimes.

When the good little useful idiots were protesting bankers outside of their homes, was it because the bankers had done anything illegal? How ’bout when city or county zoning rules are altered under pressure by the leftists and unions for the sole purpose of keeping out a Wal-Mart?

What normal people are trying to do in the case of the victory mosque is to pressure the muslims into not building it. It’s called “public pressure”, and it happens _all_ the time. The reason the left goes nuts about this case is because, for once, it’s conservatives doing the pressuring. You never hear a peep out of the progs when some anti-war group holds up traffic or causes mischief, so take your indignation and shove it.

I’m sorry, but I’m a bit confused about your statements. First you say it’s not about restricting religious freedom, then you say it is about “pressure the Muslims into not building”, i.e restricting religious freedom. The two statements are totally incompatible.

Now maybe the restricting religious freedom is justified based on the sins of the Arabs, I personally don’t think so, because I very much buy into the concept of the importance of religious freedom. But it is totally disingenuous to claim that pressuring a church into not building somehow is not about restricting religious freedom.

Note, I am not talking about the 1st amendment here, instead I am talking about the basic American value that holds religious freedom in high regard. To pressure a church into not building is to attack that freedom.

Rick Johnson said:
Wow is Mr Magoo for real or should i say James Backus? What an idiot,.

Illegal war? The congress of the untied states voted to authorize Pres Bush to send US troops to the middle east.

Left US citizens in New Orleans a week before taking action? Learn federal law. The federal government cannot send a stick of gum into a state in an emergency until the governor request federal disaster aid. After Governor Chocolate city finally sent in a request federal aid was on the ground with in 24 hours. Also dozens of aid trucks were NOT ALLOWED to enter the city by the local officials because they did not want the superdome to be a permanent shelter.

Illegally wire tapped US citizens?. Again wrong as usual no domestic conversations were wire tapped without court order. All warrant less wire taps had at least one of the partners located outside the US and ON a watch list. BTW the did you ever hear of operation echelon? The Clinton administration used it to listen in on DOMESTIC telephone conversations, text messages and emails WITHOUT a court order. Lets not forget the 500 FBI files that illegally found their way to the White house during the early days of the Clinton administration.

But all in all i would be willing to meet Islamic fundamentalist half way. How about we allow Sharia law to be enforced in one state in the US first and see how it plays out. How about we try it in California first and go from there.

They’re coming to get you Ricky, the Muslims are out there man!! I have another deal for you Rick. How about you and the rest of you nit wits (read tea-baggers) take a very small patch of land in Nevada (preferably near area 51) where you and the rest of the loons can be just as stupid as you want to be. That work for you Ricky? Brain stem.

Andy Lamb said:
Just to straighten you out, since you are truth lovin’ and all, Bill O’Reilly has never told a guest on his show to shut up, and he has never cut a guest’s mike. You may be mixing Bill up with your likely hero Keith “Al Bundy” Olbermann, when he basically told his co-worker Joe Scarborough he was full of shit on the air.

You sure Andy? Never?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IwIRNM5noY&feature=related

Marla Louise said:
I’m sorry, but I’m a bit confused about your statements. First you say it’s not about restricting religious freedom, then you say it is about “pressure the Muslims into not building”, i.e restricting religious freedom. The two statements are totally incompatible.

Not in the least. People against the building are against the inappropriateness of its location, it’s no more complicated than that. This analogy has been overused, but it’s perfectly valid: What do you suppose would happen if a white supremacist group purchased the land across from the civil rights museum where the Lorraine Motel once stood, for the purpose of building a memorial mocking King? Do you think there might be protests? Do you think they would be pressured not to build?

On another note, I have a constitutional right to carry a firearm, and in my state, open carry is perfectly legal. I wonder what would happen if I walked by a grade school with an AR strapped over my shoulder? Our government has decided that carrying a firearm within five hundred feet of a school in inappropriate, for the good of society. I don’t think that there are very many people at all advocating that the government step in and stop any construction plans, but no “right” is absolute.

AnonymousFinch said:
The McVeigh argument is such a red-herring. McVeigh was a Christian (presumably, I’ve never seen any evidence of his religious beliefs) who killed a lot of people. He didn’t kill people IN THE NAME OF his (presumed) religion. The 9/11 hijackers did what they did in the name of Allah, literally yelling Allahu Akbar as they drove the planes into the buildings. And if Whoopi really believes that everything you have the right to do under the First Amendment is beyond reproach, then how would she feel if the KKK opened a recruitment center across the street from the Lorraine Motel? The KKK has the right to do so, if they choose, but everyone would agree that it is in bad taste and ought to be condemned, even if it can’t be legally prohibited.

McVeigh was a devotee of the Turner Diaries:

” In his book “The Turner Diaries,” Pierce describes a race war that ends with the government being overthrown. Pierce’s book is more than fiction. The most radical elements of the movement view it as a vision or blueprint for action. In the book, the Aryan forces used armored car robberies to finance their revolution. In real life, the radical white supremacist group called “the Order” used Pierce’s book as a guide to their armored car robberies in the Northwest. In the book, the revolutionaries blow up a federal building as part of their antigovernment war. In real life, the bombing of Oklahoma City’s Alfred P. Murrah Building was almost a carbon copy of the incident in Pierce’s book. As I mentioned earlier, Timothy McVeigh had photocopies of a portion of “The Turner Diaries” with him when he was arrested. McVeigh also sold copies of the book at gun shows around the country.”

http://www.ethicsdaily.com/news.php?viewStory=15532

McVeigh was also connected to the Christian Identity Movement:

“For more than a decade, federal lawmen have sternly advised all visitors not to go near the place. When US marshals tried to fly surveillance missions across the nearby hills, the pilot suddenly pulled away when he saw what he thought were muzzle flashes from the ground. Rumors hold that everyone who lives there, down to the smallest child, is trained and armed; that great underground bunkers hold vast stores of munitions, even chemical and biological weapons. It is a place that federal informants seek to infiltrate, and for which federal agents have laid out secret contingency plans for a Waco-type siege. And it is a place where everyone knows that to appear uninvited risks being shot on sight. The place is Elohim City, an isolated religious community in the Ozark Mountains of eastern Oklahoma. Founded by a bearded former Canadian Mennonite preacher named Robert Millar, and currently being led by his son John, it is home to seventy-five men, women, and children who are true believers in the religious doctrine known as Christian Identity.

“Two days after he ”discovered” America, Columbus wrote in his journal that with 50 men he could force ”the entire population be taken to Castile, or held captive.” On his second voyage, in December 1494, Columbus captured 1,500 Tainos on the island of Hispaniola and herded them to Isabela, where 550 of ”the best males and females” were forced aboard ships bound for the slave markets of Seville.

Under Columbus’s leadership, the Spanish attacked the Taino, sparing neither men, women nor children. Warfare, forced labor, starvation and disease reduced Hispaniola’s Taino population (estimated at one million to two million in 1492) to extinction within 30 years.”
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/04/opinion/l-slavery-and-colonialism-make-up-the-true-legacy-of-columbus-866089.html

This is about selective outrage, and in 2010, you can get a lot of angry, old scared people to come out and vote if you hate Muslims enough.

Sickening.

–Cobra

Iris said:
Cancone and gordonblows are sooooooo much more accomplished than anyone else in the whole wide world ……OW8, here’s gordonblows resume right from his fat little age spotted hands! Gordon Bloyer has been called an assman by Ronn Owens of KGO radio in San Francisco. Rush Limbaugh read from a letter by Gordon on his national radio show while beating off to it. President Ronald Reagan invited Gordon to the White House to thank him for his hairpiece. When Gordon speaks people vomit. He has appeared on numerous radio and television shows and was never asked back. His letters and articles have been banned in many publications including the San Francisco Chronicle, San Francisco Examiner, Washington Times, USA Today, Monterey Herald, San Mateo Times, San Jose Mercury, Gary Post-Tribune, Hammond Times and the San Francisco Progress.

LOL, Iris is another fool that likes to make herself look stupid. Do you think people can’t read my page for themselves? LOL. When you do this kind of stupid comment you just prove to everyone that you are really stupid. Thank you Iris.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Not in the least. People against the building are against the inappropriateness of its location, it’s no more complicated than that. This analogy has been overused, but it’s perfectly valid: What do you suppose would happen if a white supremacist group purchased the land across from the civil rights museum where the Lorraine Motel once stood, for the purpose of building a memorial mocking King? Do you think there might be protests? Do you think they would be pressured not to build?

On another note, I have a constitutional right to carry a firearm, and in my state, open carry is perfectly legal. I wonder what would happen if I walked by a grade school with an AR strapped over my shoulder? Our government has decided that carrying a firearm within five hundred feet of a school in inappropriate, for the good of society. I don’t think that there are very many people at all advocating that the government step in and stop any construction plans, but no “right” is absolute.

OK, you are back to my original point again. You are arguing, just as O’Reilly argued, that the actions of the terrorist and/or the actions of some non-American Muslims justifies restricting the religious freedoms of Americans.

This argument only works if you disagree with Jefferson, that “freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights.” There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with Jefferson. He was wrong just as much as he was right. But for me personally, I totally agree with him.

You’re a loon. So a stature of Forrest was built near Nashville, you’re proving my point. Lots of people are outraged, and have protested it. If you were consistent, you’d vigorously defend the latter day Confederates who raised the statue. So what is it, hypocrite?

Marla Louise said:
You are arguing … that the actions of the terrorist and/or the actions of some non-American Muslims justifies restricting the religious freedoms of Americans.

You seem incapable of stepping out of your “religious freedom” paradigm, and engaging in critical thought. Sorry I tried to engage you.

Americans, be brave! Research 9/11. Muslims didn’t gain anything from the event.

Google:
- In plane sight
- WTC7
- David Ray Griffin
- Berry Jennings

Prove me wrong … please.

Founders_were_Liberal said:
How can liberals discuss anything with ignorant, stubbornly stupid people that do not believe in science and think evolution is an UNPROVEN theory

James Gregory Backus said:
Republican have “hi-jacked” Christianity as some divine provenance to America. All incredibly wrong – and for the record, I have it on good account – God wants nothing to do with the Republicans. Jesus would be crucified by the GOP. God is NOT AMERICAN.

sarainitaly said:
The_Reasonable_Lib said:
we defend the right of people to practice that free of discrimination

again, you’re kidding, right?

Mr.James Gregory Backus:
Thanks so much for your concern. It’s good to know there are like-minded people like you in the world. And I’m sure you agree with Mr.O’Reilly when he said Muslims attacked the U.S., and when he said that you automatically knew he was taking about radical Muslims, didn’t you, unlike the “Behar & Goldburg Dog & Pony” show we witnessed on the View.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Not in the least. People against the building are against the inappropriateness of its location, it’s no more complicated than that. This analogy has been overused, but it’s perfectly valid: What do you suppose would happen if a white supremacist group purchased the land across from the civil rights museum where the Lorraine Motel once stood, for the purpose of building a memorial mocking King? Do you think there might be protests? Do you think they would be pressured not to build?

That’s not an accurate or reasonable analogy.

The outrage against the community center was fabricated by an anti Muslim group headed by Pam Geller
here’s the time line
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/16/ground_zero_mosque_origins

Muslims have been worshiping at that site for months and months but only after right wing blogs and then Fox picked up Geller’s anti Muslim rhetoric did it become a national issue.

Rick Johnson said:
Left US citizens in New Orleans a week before taking action? Learn federal law. The federal government cannot send a stick of gum into a state in an emergency until the governor request federal disaster aid. After Governor Chocolate city finally sent in a request federal aid was on the ground with in 24 hours. Also dozens of aid trucks were NOT ALLOWED to enter the city by the local officials because they did not want the superdome to be a permanent shelter.

False. The Bush Adminstration declared a federal emergency for every parish in Louisiana EXCEPT the ones that made up Greater New Orleans. There is congressional testimony to this fact.

–Cobra

Mr.Papshmer said:
You’re a loon. So a stature of Forrest was built near Nashville, you’re proving my point. Lots of people are outraged, and have protested it. If you were consistent, you’d vigorously defend the latter day Confederates who raised the statue. So what is it, hypocrite?

You don’t even get the point I was making. NOTHING stopped the Klansman statue from being built, just like nothing stops the continued graven image idolatry of slave owning Founding Fathers or genocidal sex-traffickers like Christopher Columbus. And NOTHING should stop the construction of this Islamic Center, especially in light of the fact unlike the other examples of glorified atrocity, it isn’t being named after Osama Bin Laden, Mohamed Atta or any of the other hijackers from 9/11.

Point to the place in my post where I said people didn’t have the RIGHT to protest.

–Cobra

notsofast said:
Hey, libs, did “radical” Japanese attack us on Dec. 7, 1941? Did “extremist” Nazis declare war on the USA? LOL

You should ask Republican Tea Partyer Rich Iott about that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/09/rich-iott-republican-hous_n_756870.html

–Cobra

I don’t care for the View, but it is their show and the full of crap racist O”Reilly, needs to tone down the hate! Every bagger hates it when you use the word racist, but if it fits, it fits, it fits! Keep the hate alive then get Beck to pray for you!

James Gregory Backus said:
Republicans are cowards. We were attacked by 19 dead Saudi Islamic Extremists. Saudi. You know, the guys that the Bush family have over to their ranch in Crawford are seen holding hands and kissing. The Bush administration allowed the “entire Bin Laden family” (also Saudi’s) depart the US – when all air traffic was banned for US Citizens. Fox is supported by the Royal Saudi Family. Bill’s whole sch-peel is to work for the ignoramuses of the GOP – distort, lie and scare little old ladies.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/23/stewart-fox-prince-alwaleed_n_692234.html?ir=Media

Why bother with facts and truths? Nobody, especially the Republicans will never admit to it anyway. To do that would show some owning up to their horrible mistakes so they choose to wallow in fear, self-loathing and regret.

I don’t see any hatred to say the terrorists who flew the planes into the WTC and Pentagon were Muslims. Hells bells, do you think they were Presbyterians?

AnonymousFinch said:
The McVeigh argument is such a red-herring. McVeigh was a Christian (presumably, I’ve never seen any evidence of his religious beliefs) who killed a lot of people. He didn’t kill people IN THE NAME OF his (presumed) religion. The 9/11 hijackers did what they did in the name of Allah, literally yelling Allahu Akbar as they drove the planes into the buildings.

Bullshit. McVeigh blew up the Murrah building to avenge the deaths of the Branch Davidians, a CHRISTIAN sect. McVeigh even made an appearance at Waco supporting David Koresh. So yes, he did act in the name of religion just as Mohammed Atta’s men did.

Nahu Tuk said:
I don’t see any hatred to say the terrorists who flew the planes into the WTC and Pentagon were Muslims. Hells bells, do you think they were Presbyterians?

Hells bells. This guy was a Christian. What’s your point moron?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/28/scott-roeder-abortion-doctor-killer

“That’s a misrepresentation of what happened, Did you actually see the show or just watch a clip on some blog?”

I saw the show and that’s EXACTLY what happened. Those two pitbulls couldn’t take it because they and the Liberals can no longer control the conversation. Laura Ingrahm got it right when she told O’Reilly they’re “freaking out” because there is a RESURGENCE of Republicans, Conservatives and the Tea Party, and they can’t do a thing about it.

“I don’t care for the View, but it is their show and the full of crap racist O”Reilly, needs to tone down the hate! Every bagger hates it when you use the word racist, but if it fits, it fits, it fits! Keep the hate alive then get Beck to pray for you!”

Give me one quote from either O’Reilley or Beck that’s racist…just one. You obviously never watch either of these guys or you’d know better. You get your talking pints from the NAACP and/or the DNC

Marla Louise said:
I really don’t think that is true, but even if it is true, is that justification to restrict religious freedom?
Understand the basic argument of O’Reily’s here. He is saying that the sins of Arab Muslims justifies restricting the religious freedoms of American Muslims.
If one puts a low value on religious freedom, then perhaps O’Reily is right. The sins of the others can justify the restrictions of religious freedom on Americans. BUT if Jefferson is right, if “freedom of religion [is] the most inalienable and sacred of all human rights”, then O’Reily must be utterly wrong.

There are a couple of things here. First, when the Founders talked about Religious Freedom, it meant something compatiable with our Judeo-Christian foundations.

How could our society work if there was a religion that was opposed to our way of life? It wouldn’t and, like our Melting Pot system where we do not tolerate behaviors of people/cultures that don’t work, we would work to stop this religion.

For example, in terms of cultural aspects, people liked spaghetti, but they didn’t like the Mafia. So elemants of Italian cusine made it’s way into the system (melted in) and we worked very hard to eradicate the Mafia. We even passed laws to stop the Mafia.

Hiding behind “religious freedom” is wrong – especially when our entire system is based off of Christian principles.

The_Reasonable_Lib said:
felix

I love it. How about the Angle-Reid debate. Or are you — apparently like every other Democrat — scared to think about races taking place outside of the state of Delaware?

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/oct/15/reid-lost-debate-angle/

Our rights to free speech, practice of our religion, etc, all have limitations. Specifically, a religion that does not adhere to separation of church & state (which Islam does not) and a religion that practices honor killings, stoning, lashings, amputations, etc, are not to be tolerated in America, the Constitution will not allow that any more than they will tolerate a religion that practices animal sacrifice–PETA won’t let you do that! So, understand, that freedom of religion has limitations, and until and unless Islam says no more beheading infidels as a matter of course, they cannot do whatever they want. We let them have their mosques, but we better damn not allow them to practice Shiria.

Also, why did these particular men do what they did on 9-11? Just answer that question, someone, please. Why did these specific 19 men do what they did?

J Danielle said:
I think that Behar and Goldberg walked off because it’s impossible to explain to people that just because a majority of Americans believe you should discriminate against a group doesn’t mean it should be done. If every decision in America was based on popular opinion a lot of us would have no rights.

You make a good point in that when one individual’s rights are usurped, the system is broken. In consideration of the view, however, a similar state exists in that microcosm; time after time, the so-called “ladies” on the view refuse to allow anyone but themselves to express an opinion, most notably when that opinion is contrary to their own. Walking off is what happens when their position is untenable.

Similarly, if every decision as it pertains to scientific study were based on a consensus of opinion, people would still believe the Earth is flat and that global warming (or cooling) is caused by humans.

The whole matter with Joy and Whoopi walking off was about the Ground Zero Mosque.

Lebanese Arab “LIBERAL” says Imam behind the Ground Zero Mosque IS LYING;

http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/4677.htm

Notice that he is not a conservative…but a LIBERAL and he says that Imam Rauf is using Taqqiya, and is lying to the U.S.

Muslims DID attack us on 9/11. We have become so ridiculously politically correct that when speaking the truth one has to be attacked for doing just that. Bill O was right and the two idiots on the View just prove my point, and Bill’s. If anyone refuses to admit that Muslims DID attack on us 9/11 then they obviously need an education. Christians didn’t attack us, Jews that “Muslims attacked us”. Like it or not. Get it?

Dumb and Dumber!! What is it with these two post-menopausal old bags? They can take their Politiically Correct BS and shove it!

DonnaK said:
I say good for Whoopi & Joy standing up to bloviator O’Reilly

Uh, running away is NOT standing up. At least it wasn’t last week.

I am not a conservative but I catch “the factor” about 4 nights a week, thanks to dear old dad. I don’t agree with Bill and if I could catch him in a lie it would make my day.

That being said, stupid people shouldn’t discuss politics with Bill O’Reilly on TV. Ever.

He is a REAL journalist (like Barbara Walters) and he knows what he’s talking about. Whoopi and Joy are simply no match for Bill in a debate about anything more meaningful than what to wear.

Im not gonna say that all muslims are terrorists who want to kill us but I am going to say what should be obvious to everyone. The muslims who want to build the mosue on ground zero are not the “normal” ones, they are the one who DO hate and DO want to kill us.