Hey Victoria, I hope you have a lot of money saved because you will never work in Hollywood again. But, for what it’s worth you said what everybody agrees with, but is too afraid to say.

“Two men kissing on the mouth! EWWWW!”, yes TAHT’S what’s wrong with the world.

Who is she?

And forced it down your throat? I’m sorry progressives stormed your house and Clockwork Orange’d you in front of FOX Tuesday nights at 8/7c……

The “has been comedienne” teabagger showing us just how hateful Christians really are. BTW, Victoria, how about reading your own “holy” book as well…the Bible. Sure has some of the same vitriolic passages that can be found in the Quran. I have always wondered about the conservative fascination with the “shoved down your throat” trope till i realized it was just psychological projecting from vacuous drones. Looks like she can not find any work. An attention whore. Go herd your cats Grandma.

It’s OK if they’re just mocking those worthless ‘ol Christians. Just don’t speak a word of truth about Muslims, homosexuals, or any group the anti-American Left has chosen for special rights.

Gasket said:
The “has been comedienne” teabagger showing us just how hateful Christians really are. BTW, Victoria, how about reading your own “holy” book as well…the Bible. Sure has some of the same vitriolic passages that can be found in the Quran. I have always wondered about the conservative fascination with the “shoved down your throat” trope till i realized it was just psychological projecting from vacuous drones. Looks like she can not find any work. An attention whore. Go herd your cats Grandma.

go watch kathy griffith lol

she’s right gays promote terrorism. Look out for interior decorators or that girl who doesn’t wear dresses, they’re not trying to live a peaceful lifestyle, they’re actually violent terrorists working for the enemy.

cjd ohio 1 said:
go watch kathy griffith lol

Kathy Griffin gets work…..

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Kathy Griffin gets work…..

you are right, cnn lol

cjd ohio 1 said:
you are right, cnn lol

she has her own show actually….

Nationman said:
she has her own show actually….

sorry had her own show. which is more than I can say for ms jackson.

Nationman said:
she has her own show actually….

Nationman said:
sorry had her own show. which is more than I can say for ms jackson.

and? lol

cjd ohio 1 said:
you are right, cnn lol

Her own television show, guest spots on various network shows, and sold out national standup tours.

Victoria Jackson has crazy webcam ramblings….

Oh wait I know who she is now. The only not funny one of that awesome early 90′s SNL cast. How do you come off as such a shitty comedienne when you’re surrounded by Phil Hartman, Mike Meyers and Chris Farley?

cjd ohio 1 said:
and? lol

that’s more work than jackson ever had. lol that’s the point.

I hate One-Way tolerance. Unless it’s One-Way the other direction.

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IS VJ running for office?!?
I’D SURE THE HELL VOTE FOR HER!

It appears she’s got a handle on things,, grounded!

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Her own television show, guest spots on various network shows, and sold out national standup tours. Victoria Jackson has crazy webcam ramblings…. Oh wait I know who she is now. The only not funny one of that awesome early 90’s SNL cast. How do you come off as such a shitty comedienne when you’re surrounded by Phil Hartman, Mike Meyers and Chris Farley?

and you think kathy is funny lol, she is just as mean as jackson just on the left lol

Glee is the most liberal series on TV, that is why it sucks.

Progressives, communists, liberals, globalists and Muslims want to destroy America. When that goal is reached, they will fight for top billing. It will be bloody. ~ Victoria Jackson

Hmmmm…..I feel like I’ve heard this music before. I think a celebrity is in our midst. Sounds like Victoria has been doing some posting at Mediaite! Hi Victoria! Hopefully the gays don’t come and get you!

TangledThorns said:
Glee is the most liberal series on TV, that is why it sucks.

lol wut? is that why it gets such high viewer ratings?

Since Muslims are very anti-gay, Glee must have been mocking them too.

So this is where Glenn Beck gets his material.

Does he ever give her writing credit?

cjd ohio 1 said:
and you think kathy is funny lol, she is just as mean as jackson just on the left lol

Five bucks says in her next webcast she quotes the poem the hangman without actually knowing where the quote is from.

writer said:
Since Muslims are very anti-gay, Glee must have been mocking them too.

nah dude, gays are terrorists to didn’t you listen? they’re all in league together.

Nationman said:
Five bucks says in her next webcast she quotes the poem the hangman without actually knowing where the quote is from.

just making the point that hate comes from both sides

cjd ohio 1 said:
just making the point that hate comes from both sides

ah yes a hate for homophobia makes me a monster.

As long as we pretend that Christianity is the only religion against gays, all is well.

Nationman said:
ah yes a hate for homophobia makes me a monster.

no, but if you dont think kathy griffith is a hater too, that is where you lose

writer said:
As long as we pretend that Christianity is the only religion against gays, all is well.

lol,, indeed!

Huh, I thought she was dead.

Some people just don’t seem to get what makes comedy work.

Political humor works when you make fun of the mistakes, eccentricities, and self-importance of political figures. This is why Jon Stewart has been so successful.

It does not work when you mock the political views themselves.

People like Victoria Jackson need to keep their mouths shut. I’m a Republican, and she hurts us all with her bigotry and idiocy.

cjd ohio 1 said:
just making the point that hate comes from both sides

Yes, it does. And in Victoria Jackson’s case, it also comes from the baffled.

cjd ohio 1 said:
no, but if you dont think kathy griffith is a hater too, that is where you lose

Kathy Griffin can be mean spirited at times, absolutely.

But I would just point out that when she makes political jokes, it’s part of her larger schtick of making fun of celebrities. Some politicians in this country (not naming any names, of course) are really closer to being celebrities than they are to being political leaders.

writer said:
As long as we pretend that Christianity is the only religion against gays, all is well.

All religions have anti-gay portions in their “bibles.” All of them. Some have moved past that, but most have not.

Also, almost all “bibles” of all religions contain myriad death sentences. Christians and Jews have no place to point at the Quran (I guess this is today’s spelling) as a violent book unless they are willing to point at their own as well.

mibwilso said:
Kathy Griffin can be mean spirited at times, absolutely. But I would just point out that when she makes political jokes, it’s part of her larger schtick of making fun of celebrities. Some politicians in this country (not naming any names, of course) are really closer to being celebrities than they are to being political leaders.

she makes more than political jokes, she attacks people of faith, but i agree with the rest

Keeva said:
Quran

you know they’ll blow you up for misspelling it?

Actually Victoria Jackson makes a mockery of Christians, no scratch that Victoria Jackson makes a mockery of humanity.

Atticus Draco said:
you know they’ll blow you up for misspelling it?

So I heard. I guess I need to take that life size Mohammed photo off my front door, too.

cjd ohio 1 said:
she makes more than political jokes, she attacks people of faith, but i agree with the rest

I mean she did in glee but it’s in the context of making fun of palin.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
The only not funny one of that awesome early 90’s SNL cast. How do you come off as such a shitty comedienne when you’re surrounded by Phil Hartman, Mike Meyers and Chris Farley?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-islam-keith-ellison/

Gasket said:
The “has been comedienne” teabagger showing us just how hateful Christians really are.

Yeah, damn hateful Christian Teabaggers. LOL

cjd ohio 1 said:
she makes more than political jokes, she attacks people of faith, but i agree with the rest

People of faith are not immune to jokes, nor are politicians, presidents, pundits or anyone else. Please note that one of the most distasteful elements of radical Islam is their propensity for death threats against writers,comedians and cartoonists who make jokes about what they deem “people of faith.”

As a Jew, I am used the the jokes and such. Some of them are actually pretty funny, to tell you the truth.

Keeva said:
Also, almost all “bibles” of all religions contain myriad death sentences. Christians and Jews have no place to point at the Quran (I guess this is today’s spelling) as a violent book unless they are willing to point at their own as well.

There’s no shame in being ignorant. There’s no shame in posting an opinion. There’s GREAT shame in posting an opinion based in ignorance, as you so aptly display. Have you read “almost all bibles of all religions?” Obviously not, but that didn’t stop you from showing your ignorance in such proud fashion.

Tell us, oh wise one, just where in the New Testament God instructs “myriad death sentences.” The false god, allah certainly instructs ambush and murder by “believers” of non-believers, but nowhere in the New Testament are the faithful instructed to perform “myriad death sentences.”

For your own good, try reading he Bible yourself rather than reading uninformed, knee-jerk anti-American blogsites.

Main difference is, it’s politically incorrect to make fun of Islam. All the rest, let ‘er rip.

Keeva said:
People of faith are not immune to jokes, nor are politicians, presidents, pundits or anyone else. Please note that one of the most distasteful elements of radical Islam is their propensity for death threats against writers,comedians and cartoonists who make jokes about what they deem “people of faith.” As a Jew, I am used the the jokes and such. Some of them are actually pretty funny, to tell you the truth.

true, but if you are labeled a hater because you make jokes about certain groups, but then you cant make jokes about anyone, either everyone is off limits or not

Davo said:
There’s no shame in being ignorant. There’s no shame in posting an opinion. There’s GREAT shame in posting an opinion based in ignorance, as you so aptly display. Have you read “almost all bibles of all religions?” Obviously not, but that didn’t stop you from showing your ignorance in such proud fashion. Tell us, oh wise one, just where in the New Testament God instructs “myriad death sentences.” The false god, allah certainly instructs ambush and murder by “believers” of non-believers, but nowhere in the New Testament are the faithful instructed to perform “myriad death sentences.” For your own good, try reading he Bible yourself rather than reading uninformed, knee-jerk anti-American blogsites.

that’s right we get to ignore that crummy old testament, it was just a bunch of rubbish.

We’re getting dangerously close to mentioning the Crusades again.

writer said:
We’re getting dangerously close to mentioning the Crusades again.

i was going more for the myriad of examples of God asking the israelites to commit genocide, murder as well as his acceptance of incest, slavery etc. but his detest for homosexuality.

Penguin60 said:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-islam-keith-ellison/

Um….your point?

Nationman said:
that’s right we get to ignore that crummy old testament, it was just a bunch of rubbish.

You tell that to God. No, it isn’t “rubbish.” Do you know what the word “Testament” means in reference to the Bible? It means ‘contract,’ ‘deal,’ or ‘agreement.’ The New Testament is the “new contract” God gives us that completes and supersedes the old “contract.” Jesus’ atonement for our sins and victory over death is the difference.

You anti-Americans amaze me with your willingness to shamelessly display stupidity (opinions based in ignorance). Try getting informed.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
Gasket said:
The “has been comedienne” teabagger showing us just how hateful Christians really are.

Umm, As inconvienent as it is for the libs, “Christians Teabaggers” don’t have the corner on the hate market.

Davo said:
You tell that to God. No, it isn’t “rubbish.” Do you know what the word “Testament” means in reference to the Bible? It means ‘contract,’ ‘deal,’ or ‘agreement.’ The New Testament is the “new contract” God gives us that completes and supersedes the old “contract.” Jesus’ atonement for our sins and victory over death is the difference. You anti-Americans amaze me with your willingness to shamelessly display stupidity (opinions based in ignorance). Try getting informed.

Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. matthew 5:17

Davo said:
You tell that to God. No, it isn’t “rubbish.” Do you know what the word “Testament” means in reference to the Bible? It means ‘contract,’ ‘deal,’ or ‘agreement.’ The New Testament is the “new contract” God gives us that completes and supersedes the old “contract.” Jesus’ atonement for our sins and victory over death is the difference. You anti-Americans amaze me with your willingness to shamelessly display stupidity (opinions based in ignorance). Try getting informed.

also you do know the whole testament thing was formulated by kings and monarch right? it’s not actually mentioned anywhere in the bible.

Nacho said:
So this is where Glenn Beck gets his material.

Does he ever give her writing credit?

She does say The only one who understands her is Glen Beck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWi182CMJY8

Davo said:
There’s no shame in being ignorant. There’s no shame in posting an opinion. There’s GREAT shame in posting an opinion based in ignorance, as you so aptly display. Have you read “almost all bibles of all religions?” Obviously not, but that didn’t stop you from showing your ignorance in such proud fashion.

Tell us, oh wise one, just where in the New Testament God instructs “myriad death sentences.” The false god, allah certainly instructs ambush and murder by “believers” of non-believers, but nowhere in the New Testament are the faithful instructed to perform “myriad death sentences.”

For your own good, try reading he Bible yourself rather than reading uninformed, knee-jerk anti-American blogsites.

Davo said:
You tell that to God. No, it isn’t “rubbish.” Do you know what the word “Testament” means in reference to the Bible? It means ‘contract,’ ‘deal,’ or ‘agreement.’ The New Testament is the “new contract” God gives us that completes and supersedes the old “contract.” Jesus’ atonement for our sins and victory over death is the difference.

You anti-Americans amaze me with your willingness to shamelessly display stupidity (opinions based in ignorance). Try getting informed.

You ignored it.

“Make no mistake, We are facing an emerging Christian right leadership that intends to ‘Christianize’ all aspects of American life.”

–national director of the U.S. Anti-Defamation League, Abraham Foxman

Nationman said:
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. matthew 5:17

I always appreciate it when an atheist instructs me on what a Christian is supposed to believe. Thank you so much for the scripture, but I know it quite well. Jesus FULFILLED the Law by atoning for our sins.

Davo said:
I always appreciate it when an atheist instructs me on what a Christian is supposed to believe. Thank you so much for the scripture, but I know it quite well. Jesus FULFILLED the Law by atoning for our sins.

and then he got rid of that old contract and replaced it with a new one. Abolishing the work of the prophets in their entirety.

same2u said:
“Make no mistake, We are facing an emerging Christian right leadership that intends to ‘Christianize’ all aspects of American life.”

–national director of the U.S. Anti-Defamation League, Abraham Foxman

http://www.jewsonfirst.org/06b/cufi.html

Davo said:
You tell that to God. No, it isn’t “rubbish.” Do you know what the word “Testament” means in reference to the Bible? It means ‘contract,’ ‘deal,’ or ‘agreement.’ The New Testament is the “new contract” God gives us that completes and supersedes the old “contract.” Jesus’ atonement for our sins and victory over death is the difference. You anti-Americans amaze me with your willingness to shamelessly display stupidity (opinions based in ignorance). Try getting informed.

what about the jews though? they still got that nasty old contract that instructs them to kill their kids if they talk back.

Nationman said:
what about the jews though? they still got that nasty old contract that instructs them to kill their kids if they talk back.

You seem angry at God. Do you think He’s impressed? Do you think you can somehow “shame” Him into obeying YOU? May God have mercy on your soul, unless you’ve already sold it to the other guy.

Davo said:
You seem angry at God. Do you think He’s impressed? Do you think you can somehow “shame” Him into obeying YOU? May God have mercy on your soul, unless you’ve already sold it to the other guy.

I don’t feel the need to shame anyone, he just doesn’t exist.

Nationman said:
I don’t feel the need to shame anyone, he just doesn’t exist.

Then you really ARE a sad psychotic. Why spend so much time and effort arguing against something you don’t think exists. Sounds kinda demented, huh?

You go ahead and have the last word here……………I don’t need it.

Victoria Jackson: Glee Episode Featuring Gay Kiss ‘Made A Mockery Of Christians’

“Did you see “Glee” this week? Sickening! And, besides shoving the gay thing down our throats, they made a mockery of Christians – again! I wonder what their agenda is? Hey, producers of “Glee” – what’s your agenda? One-way tolerance?”

While I disagree with her anti-gay comments, I believe she referring to the Kathy Griffin character as the one “making a mockery of Christians”. And she was right about her “one-way tolerance” comments. Glee wants everyone to be tolerant of gays, but show no tolerance towards Christians.

That said, Jackson would have better legs to stand on if she wasn’t actually acting like the intolerant Christian they portrayed on the show.

same2u said:
“Make no mistake, We are facing an emerging Christian right leadership that intends to ‘Christianize’ all aspects of American life.”

Is that why supporting or ignoring sharia is so important to you?

ndanielson said:
Is that why supporting or ignoring sharia is so important to you?

actually a secular government and system of laws is important to me.

Satire or serious?
Made me laugh.
Not doubt the folks at WorldNutDaily had their beliefs reinforced unless she is mocking them…………………………..

Davo said:
I always appreciate it when an atheist instructs me on what a Christian is supposed to believe. Thank you so much for the scripture, but I know it quite well. Jesus FULFILLED the Law by atoning for our sins.

Davo said:
The only thing missing was covering the Muslims in pig guts and beheading them as they did innocent Americans, thereby playing to the archaic Muslim superstition that they wouldn’t be seeing the virgins and the wealth with pig on ‘em.

Davo said:
May God have mercy on your soul, unless you’ve already sold it to the other guy.

I’m sorry, Victoria who? Oh, that’s right. No one cares anymore.

my dogs gone said:
Satire or serious?
Made me laugh.
Not doubt the folks at WorldNutDaily had their beliefs reinforced unless she is mocking them…………………………..

No, she’s actually this stupid. Hard to believe, right?

Yes, I know when I think of victimized groups, wealthy white Christians are always the first that pop into my mind. Give me a break.

sarainitaly said:
Victoria Jackson: Glee Episode Featuring Gay Kiss ‘Made A Mockery Of Christians’ “Did you see “Glee” this week? Sickening! And, besides shoving the gay thing down our throats, they made a mockery of Christians – again! I wonder what their agenda is? Hey, producers of “Glee” – what’s your agenda? One-way tolerance?” While I disagree with her anti-gay comments, I believe she referring to the Kathy Griffin character as the one “making a mockery of Christians”. And she was right about her “one-way tolerance” comments. Glee wants everyone to be tolerant of gays, but show no tolerance towards Christians. That said, Jackson would have better legs to stand on if she wasn’t actually acting like the intolerant Christian they portrayed on the show.

A voice of reason!

Look, as a Christian, I don’t appreciate being mocked, either. I agree that tolerance should go both ways. I think there are many Christians that are tolerant of gays, but they just don’t like the idea of gay marriage. I don’t think it’s homophobic to feel this way, but what I’m against is the huge push by many on the far right Christians to pool so many resources together to stop something that will not affect them in the least. I’m not speaking for every liberal, but I believe there are many on the left who are Christians who strongly disagree with the push against gay marriage.

That said, Victoria, you know, if you don’t like to see two men kissing on television, there is a device that was invented many years ago that enables you to change the channel. I believe it’s called a remote control. This ensures there will be no “shoving the gay thing down your throat”. I think people on the left and right would do well to utilize this device when they hear things they dont’ want to hear.

Also, let me get this straight. Sean Penn says something outrageous and people scream, “SHUT UP, you Hollywood elitist! Why do you feel like your opinion is more important than mine! Hollywood should just shut up!” Shouldn’t that same standard be applied to Ms. Jackson? Look, I don’t care for Penn to call Bush a war criminal any more than I care to hear Ms. Jackson whine about how the gays are shoving their agenda down everyone’s throats.

Yes, you see Libs are for Sharia Law and they love Gays because those things are completely contradictory…you guys are amazing.

Victoria Jackson has become famous again, thanks to the Tea Party. And she pretty much epitomizes the intellect of the movement in general. Take a lesson folks: this is what you get when you demonize intellectualism.

Sorry Victoria Jackson (whoever you are) But Kurt and Blaine are awesome;
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Blaine: “Kurt, there’s a moment when you say to yourself, ‘Oh, there you are… I’ve been looking for you forever,’”
*Up there at the top with the best glee moments ever…
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There is a reason that, between 11 and 39 million people watch the Glee every week and that reason is its awesome, If you don’t like it, don’t hate… just watch something else. =)

Victoria….once a ditz, always a ditz. She is a perfect spokeswoman for the Wingnutz……

Thanks to Ms. Jackson, I would never have known about this incident. You see, I don’t watch Glee. But, thank goodness Ms. Jackson never misses a moment, of Glee. Who else would we have to inform us, of such atrocities.

stoogedudes said:
Look, I don’t care for Penn to call Bush a war criminal any more than I care to hear Ms. Jackson whine about how the gays are shoving their agenda down everyone’s throats.

Agree. I remember Eddie Vedder going off on something and Howard Stern saying, just shut up and sing Eddie. One of Howard’s few lucid moments

Alric_IV said:
Take a lesson folks: this is what you get when you demonize intellectualism.

And a weak mind is what you get when you make broad generalizations.

Penguin60 said:
Agree. I remember Eddie Vedder going off on something and Howard Stern saying, just shut up and sing Eddie. One of Howard’s few lucid moments

And a weak mind is what you get when you make broad generalizations.

That doesn’t’ even make sense. But what I said does make sense. She’s regained popularity now. And why? Because people among the Tea Partiers believe that this dim bulb has something to say. Tea Partiers are anti-intellectual, period. That’s how a nitwit can rise to such prominence among them. The Tea Partiers have among them people who believe the earth is only 6,000 years old. They’ve demonized intellectualism, and thus people like Jackson and Ted Nugent ascend as spokespersons.

Alric_IV said:
Tea Partiers are anti-intellectual, period.

No, that doesn’t make sense. Again, broad generalizations are a common symptom of a weak mind. The libs have those who believe GWB was behind 9/11, am I to believe all of you are psychos?

Also, Sharpton and Jackson speak for the left all the time, am I to believe all of you are race baiting charlatans? Take people one at a time, you’ll find out you may have more in common than painting with a broad brush.

Glee should be called Gay. they are only on to spread their gay agenda!

The idea that Victoria opens her mouth and says something contrary to the homosexual agenda; and oh yes they have an agenda. It’s to demonize anyone with the term “Hater”, or that wonderfully created word “Homophobe” as to anyone person or organization that does not believe their lifestyle is not immoral or wrong.
Read the above statement before you start thumbing me. It’s true.

You say something negative about homosexuals or their lifestyle and you are going against one of the greatest Politically Incorrect tides known in the Western World.

Look, you live in America, you have the right (Period)
BUT That doesn’t make it right (Period)

People have a right to disagree with you. They have a right to look at history and see where “homosexual behavior” has led many a civilization. (And it wasn’t a positive thing)

People for years were doing all types of sexually unacceptable; or in many eyes, immoral things. It didn’t stop them they did it in secret but they were few and far between. Now that it has become almost a hate crime, not to accept these “Alternative Lifestyles” it has become more acceptable, but most for the most part a major majority abstain from these lifestyles. Many people for moral choices in their religion, organization, or upbringing and some instead of saying it’s disgusting and we were not meant to follow that, just say, it’s not for me. (I have to ask you this… Why is it not for you if it is so normal?)

Getting back to Glee, You are correct when you say you have the right to turn the channel, but do you also not have the right to boycott the show, the station and the advertisers if it really bothers you that your favorite show has gone over the line?
Or is that hateful too?

I get annoyed at people that say don’t push a religion or a particular upbringing on me, but they have no problem defending someone saying “I’m gay and proud and you have to accept me and my lifestyle as normal”.
If I deem it as improper and disgusting (You do have your right) but I nor anyone else has to accept your lifestyle as normal or right. A person has one obligation, to accept you as a human in compassion with your faults, and that is the only obligation one has.

I got no problem with gays, but why must Glee ridicule Christians and conservatives all the time? It’s not funny! “All in the Family” and Married with Children were funny because EVERYONE was fair game. A show where the liberals area always the good guys and the conservatives the bad guys is BORING!

It’s the reason I no longer watch John Stewart, if you’re only going to bitch about Republicans, people I agree with always except for a few social issues, you won’t have my attention.
http://libertarians4freedom.blogspot.com/

@CLTstraightguy
Stop hating on people who have done you no wrong and wish you no ill and stop dictating to those people, how they should live their lives! Nobody is trying to make you gay, stop trying to make us straight!
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As for glee, Kurt and Blaine are awesome and there is a reason why, between 11 and 39 million people watch the Glee every week and that reason is its pure level of awesomeness. If you don’t like it, don’t hate… just watch something else. =)
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Blaine: “Kurt, there’s a moment when you say to yourself, ‘Oh, there you are… I’ve been looking for you forever,’”
*Up there at the top, best glee moment ever…

Dem4Ever said:
Hey Victoria, I hope you have a lot of money saved because you will never work in Hollywood again.

According to her website, Ms Jackson lives in Florida, is married to a police helicopter pilot, is a grandmother, and has no intention of working in Hollywood — unless it’s in Hollywood, Florida.

CLTstraightguy said:
The idea that Victoria opens her mouth and says something contrary to the homosexual agenda; and oh yes they have an agenda. It’s to demonize anyone with the term “Hater”, or that wonderfully created word “Homophobe” as to anyone person or organization that does not believe their lifestyle is not immoral or wrong.Read the above statement before you start thumbing me. It’s true. You say something negative about homosexuals or their lifestyle and you are going against one of the greatest Politically Incorrect tides known in the Western World. Look, you live in America, you have the right (Period)BUT That doesn’t make it right (Period) People have a right to disagree with you. They have a right to look at history and see where “homosexual behavior” has led many a civilization. (And it wasn’t a positive thing) People for years were doing all types of sexually unacceptable; or in many eyes, immoral things. It didn’t stop them they did it in secret but they were few and far between. Now that it has become almost a hate crime, not to accept these “Alternative Lifestyles” it has become more acceptable, but most for the most part a major majority abstain from these lifestyles. Many people for moral choices in their religion, organization, or upbringing and some instead of saying it’s disgusting and we were not meant to follow that, just say, it’s not for me. (I have to ask you this… Why is it not for you if it is so normal?) Getting back to Glee, You are correct when you say you have the right to turn the channel, but do you also not have the right to boycott the show, the station and the advertisers if it really bothers you that your favorite show has gone over the line?Or is that hateful too? I get annoyed at people that say don’t push a religion or a particular upbringing on me, but they have no problem defending someone saying “I’m gay and proud and you have to accept me and my lifestyle as normal”.If I deem it as improper and disgusting (You do have your right) but I nor anyone else has to accept your lifestyle as normal or right. A person has one obligation, to accept you as a human in compassion with your faults, and that is the only obligation one has.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with people saying homosexuality is immoral and disgusting. Like you said, that’s your opinion. What I and many others have a problem with is people with this belief pushing to keep from gay people marrying. If gay marriage being legal were to affect you negatively, that’s one thing, but I’ve not seen one single statistic that says that anyone elses marraige would be negatively affected by gay marriage. Just because you find it disgusting and immoral doesn’t mean you should make the government tell you who you can and can’t marry. Same goes for polygamy, not that I agree with it, but if they want to marry, by all means, let them! It wouldn’t affect me in the least!

She’s probably just jealous she wasn’t still on Saturday Night Live when they spoofed Sarah Palin. For Victoria that would be type-casting.

I think it’s understood that one person’s rights end where another person’s begin. She may be offended by a gay kiss; others may be offended by intolerant hate speech. It seems that Victoria has a one-size-fits-all label for anyone who does not share her beliefs. Based on her list of so-called America-haters, it seems that in VictoriaLand, Christians have the market cornered on goodness and patriotism. Last time I checked, Timothy McVeigh was a Christian and we all know how that turned out. l

I didn’t particulary like the farcical performance by the Sue-lead glee club at the Regional Glee Club finals on the episode in question because I thought it crossed a line between humor and ridicule, but others probably found it quite humorous. I just opted to hit the mute button.

In her rant about two gay men kissing on the mouth, I’m reminded of haters in the 50′s and 60′s who thought Ed Sullivan was disgusting because he kissed Diana Ross when she appeared on his show. My guess is Victoria would have been right at home during those intolerant years.

Very good, Victoria. And, by the way, how’s that post-SNL career going?

stoogedudes said:
If gay marriage being legal were to affect you negatively, that’s one thing, but I’ve not seen one single statistic that says that anyone elses marraige would be negatively affected by gay marriage. Just because you find it disgusting and immoral doesn’t mean you should make the government tell you who you can and can’t marry. Same goes for polygamy, not that I agree with it, but if they want to marry, by all means, let them! It wouldn’t affect me in the least!

You forgot to add beastiality and child molestation. And with the promotion of Sharia, why not just legalize rape and sexual torture. I mean, why stop the sexual deviant and immoral stampede at just homosexuality? Let’s just “let them! It wouldn’t affect me in the least,” Right?

Marriage is a multi-thousands of years tradition owned by heterosexuals. With equal rights guaranteed by personal contracts, there would only be one reason to destroy the definition of “marriage>” That would be to destroy the concept of marriage altogether, in order to further “legitimize” the illegitimate. Next would be a law forcing us to chant “homosexuality is normal” daily. But guess what……………..homosexuality is still a perversion of nature.

I don’t waste much time with sitcoms, so I have never seen Glee. I’m surprised so many people on this site, who seem to be focused on important stuff, have so much insight into the show.
I suppose I’m really out of touch with Victoria Jackson, who I vaguely remember from SNL. That must have been, what, 200 pounds ago. Looks like her agenda is food.

Jackie_Treehorn said:
And forced it down your throat?

ok

stoogedudes said:
If gay marriage being legal were to affect you negatively, that’s one thing, but I’ve not seen one single statistic that says that anyone elses marraige would be negatively affected by gay marriage.

There are the gay banditos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-id4GKsaQk
A threat to the american family

Davo said:
Then you really ARE a sad psychotic. Why spend so much time and effort arguing against something you don’t think exists. Sounds kinda demented, huh? You go ahead and have the last word here……………I don’t need it.

why come to this site in the first place if you’re not willing to talk about something interesting?

Davo said:
You go ahead and have the last word here……………I don’t need it.

“I’ve been debated into a corner but I still wanna seem cool”

Davo said:
You forgot to add beastiality and child molestation. And with the promotion of Sharia, why not just legalize rape and sexual torture. I mean, why stop the sexual deviant and immoral stampede at just homosexuality? Let’s just “let them! It wouldn’t affect me in the least,” Right? Marriage is a multi-thousands of years tradition owned by heterosexuals. With equal rights guaranteed by personal contracts, there would only be one reason to destroy the definition of “marriage>” That would be to destroy the concept of marriage altogether, in order to further “legitimize” the illegitimate. Next would be a law forcing us to chant “homosexuality is normal” daily. But guess what……………..homosexuality is still a perversion of nature.

In a lot of ancient cultures marriage was used by a dominant male who had like 200 spouses. That is illegal in the United states . As was marrying a young girl to a much older man, that practice is illegal in the united states but at one time it was not.
Beastility and child molestation are inherently predative relationships, the human in the animal relationship has the cognitive thinking to understand what is taking place between himself and the animal, the animal is relying on instinct. A child doesn’t have the developed brain capacity to understand their relationship to the older person. Are you saying two consenting adult’s don’t know what they’re doing? Jesus, it’s a progressive! he’s trying to use the government to tell people how to live their lives.

Davo said:
That would be to destroy the concept of marriage altogether, in order to further “legitimize” the illegitimate. Next would be a law forcing us to chant “homosexuality is normal” daily. But guess what……………..homosexuality is still a perversion of nature.

Without getting too disgusting, you should know that many animals actually practice homosexual behaviors in the wild. They must worship satan or something i guess.

CLTstraightguy said:
The idea that Victoria opens her mouth and says something contrary to the homosexual agenda; and oh yes they have an agenda. It’s to demonize anyone with the term “Hater”, or that wonderfully created word “Homophobe” as to anyone person or organization that does not believe their lifestyle is not immoral or wrong.
Read the above statement before you start thumbing me. It’s true.

You say something negative about homosexuals or their lifestyle and you are going against one of the greatest Politically Incorrect tides known in the Western World.

Look, you live in America, you have the right (Period)
BUT That doesn’t make it right (Period)

People have a right to disagree with you. They have a right to look at history and see where “homosexual behavior” has led many a civilization. (And it wasn’t a positive thing)

People for years were doing all types of sexually unacceptable; or in many eyes, immoral things. It didn’t stop them they did it in secret but they were few and far between. Now that it has become almost a hate crime, not to accept these “Alternative Lifestyles” it has become more acceptable, but most for the most part a major majority abstain from these lifestyles. Many people for moral choices in their religion, organization, or upbringing and some instead of saying it’s disgusting and we were not meant to follow that, just say, it’s not for me. (I have to ask you this… Why is it not for you if it is so normal?)

Getting back to Glee, You are correct when you say you have the right to turn the channel, but do you also not have the right to boycott the show, the station and the advertisers if it really bothers you that your favorite show has gone over the line?
Or is that hateful too?

I get annoyed at people that say don’t push a religion or a particular upbringing on me, but they have no problem defending someone saying “I’m gay and proud and you have to accept me and my lifestyle as normal”.
If I deem it as improper and disgusting (You do have your right) but I nor anyone else has to accept your lifestyle as normal or right. A person has one obligation, to accept you as a human in compassion with your faults, and that is the only obligation one has.

na·ïf

Where to start? While Victoria is a vile sleazebag, she’s entitled to her opinion. However, along with the right to express an opinion (regardless of how vile) is the responsibility to not whine when your hateful opinions earn you the opprobrium of the community. If you manifestly identify yourself as a hater or a homophobe you will be despised as such. Get over it or keep your opinions to yourself.

You correctly identify the growing achnowledgement of gay respectability as a tide — as in “a force of nature against which only fools rage.” If you want to be King Canute shouting at the ocean to obey your will, please feel free — you’ll still be a fool.

Please do share your “look at history” and show me where homosexual behavior has led, oh so many civilizations. Like what? You’re just making stuff up here.

If you genuinely think that “sexually unacceptable things” are done solely in secret and are few and far between, you are a hopeless naïf. And your “not for you” argument is totally incoherent. Here’s an uncomplicated fact: many non-gay people totally accept the fact that other people are gay and this constitutes no threat to anyone. The concept is really not much more subtle than that.

You want to boycott Glee and its advertisers? Knock yourself out. Don’t be surprised when people regard you as a jackass for doing so, however.

Gay people and their adherents really don’t care whether you approve of them so long as you don’t interfere with the same “pursuit of happiness” that you yourself enjoy. Again, believe what you will, but if you try to impose your narrow-minded bigotry on others, you’re going to be scorned. S’ing TFU is often the best course (in so many aspects of life).

I’ll give you this: in one instance, perhaps by accident, you hit on a truth: “to accept you as a human in compassion with your faults . . .” that’s certainly one of the obligations of civiized behavior. However, that “acceptance” has to go beyond simply letting the other person draw breath. It also has to include respect and — above all else — no interference with another’s rightful expression of self.

Basically, it’s like your mother no doubt told you: if you can’t say anything nice, say nothing at all.

Davo said:
You forgot to add beastiality and child molestation. And with the promotion of Sharia, why not just legalize rape and sexual torture. I mean, why stop the sexual deviant and immoral stampede at just homosexuality? Let’s just “let them! It wouldn’t affect me in the least,” Right?

Marriage is a multi-thousands of years tradition owned by heterosexuals. With equal rights guaranteed by personal contracts, there would only be one reason to destroy the definition of “marriage>” That would be to destroy the concept of marriage altogether, in order to further “legitimize” the illegitimate. Next would be a law forcing us to chant “homosexuality is normal” daily. But guess what……………..homosexuality is still a perversion of nature.

Fact-free spew. Homosexuality has been around as long as heterosexuality — as long as sexuality itself, in fact. You consider it deviant but many — in fact most Americans — don’t.

Your mention of Sharia brands you as a doofus, and your mention of rape and sexual torture brands you an idiot. Homosexual unions are voluntary pairings of two adults. They have nothing whatsoever to to with nonconsensual crimes.

Marriage has been redefined by every culture that has practiced it, and the outer reaches of its expression (from near-incest among Pharaonic Egypt to child-engagement still practiced in India and Pakistan) have many aspects to despise.

But marriage rights as they’re being fought over in advanced societies today (in which I, optimistically, include the United States) are simply a matter of extending genuinely equal rights to a population up to now denied them. Rights the extension of which threaten what you consider marriage not one whit. You think marriage is restricted to a man and a woman? Fine. Just don’t ram your heterosexual agenda down everybody else’s throat.

Your hate is the perversion of nature. And like other true perversions, it will curdle your soul and blight your life. Best get that jones off your back.

Ah Victoria, Victoria, Victoria. tsk tsk. Like most Christians, you’ve forgotten your scriptures. Here’s a little refresh.

“Do not judge and criticize and condemn others, so that you may not be judged and criticized and condemned yourselves. For just as you judge and criticize and condemn others, you will be judged and criticized and condemned, and in accordance with the measure you deal out to others, it will be dealt out again to you. “–Matthew 7:1-2

mediadoubt said:
na·ïf

Where to start? While Victoria is a vile sleazebag, she’s entitled to her opinion. However, along with the right to express an opinion (regardless of how vile) is the responsibility to not whine when your hateful opinions earn you the opprobrium of the community. If you manifestly identify yourself as a hater or a homophobe you will be despised as such. Get over it or keep your opinions to yourself.

You correctly identify the growing achnowledgement of gay respectability as a tide — as in “a force of nature against which only fools rage.” If you want to be King Canute shouting at the ocean to obey your will, please feel free — you’ll still be a fool.

Please do share your “look at history” and show me where homosexual behavior has led, oh so many civilizations. Like what? You’re just making stuff up here.

If you genuinely think that “sexually unacceptable things” are done solely in secret and are few and far between, you are a hopeless naïf. And your “not for you” argument is totally incoherent. Here’s an uncomplicated fact: many non-gay people totally accept the fact that other people are gay and this constitutes no threat to anyone. The concept is really not much more subtle than that.

You want to boycott Glee and its advertisers? Knock yourself out. Don’t be surprised when people regard you as a jackass for doing so, however.

Gay people and their adherents really don’t care whether you approve of them so long as you don’t interfere with the same “pursuit of happiness” that you yourself enjoy. Again, believe what you will, but if you try to impose your narrow-minded bigotry on others, you’re going to be scorned. S’ing TFU is often the best course (in so many aspects of life).

I’ll give you this: in one instance, perhaps by accident, you hit on a truth: “to accept you as a human in compassion with your faults . . .” that’s certainly one of the obligations of civiized behavior. However, that “acceptance” has to go beyond simply letting the other person draw breath. It also has to include respect and — above all else — no interference with another’s rightful expression of self.

Basically, it’s like your mother no doubt told you: if you can’t say anything nice, say nothing at all.

Glad to see I hit a nerve I must be exclaiming some sort of new concept to you.

You are something else… You are basically calling me a “Hater” when I have already stated I have a difference of opinion and as do many others. You have some nerve.

And now I am supposed to shut up according to you, because I disagree with you?? What right do you have to define every other persons modus operandi as being wrong? You have an opinion and that’s fine, but you are trying to debunk many natural laws, rules and personal convictions that have been around long before you or I were and yes they were put there to protect us.

Look you don’t have to agree with me, and I don’t have to agree with you. That’s called freedom of speech. (Something you “Liberal thinkers” should adhere too a little more)
I have an obligation to treat any human with compassion, but you don’t have the right to label anyone a “Hater” or Phobic, just because they don’t accept your choices as being “Normal”

Fact:
I’m not a hater, I’m not going to go beat the crap out of you or burn your house down or throw tainted AIDS blood balloons, just because I disagree with you, and neither would most sane humans. However when you march down the street doing lewd sexual, provocative things with the same sex, I am not nor will many sane people bring their kids and wave a rainbow flag, and make it a “Family Event”. It’s disgusting, keep your own sexual behavior to your bloody self, don’t make a public spectacle of yourself.

Fact:
I am not a phobic, If a phone solicitor keeps calling your number and you already know what their spiel if you don’t answer the phone or you hang up on them does that make you phobic??

Your quote:

“”Gay people and their adherents really don’t care whether you approve of them so long as you don’t interfere with the same “pursuit of happiness” that you yourself enjoy. Again, believe what you will, but if you try to impose your narrow-minded bigotry on others, you’re going to be scorned. S’ing TFU is often the best course (in so many aspects of life).”"

Then why are you bitching about me disagreeing with you and making a sermon about it?
Go on be homosexual, wave your flag, just don’t try and replicate your perversion as a family and don’t expect us who are married (Man and Woman) to call it normal.

It’s not bigotry, if anyone is being bigoted, it’s people like yourself who try to tell others to think and act.
I am not telling you that, I am just telling you how I and millions of other think.

You have your right, to do what you want. But, that doesn’t make it right, nor acceptable.

Get over it and live your life and accept the consequences, I’ll do the same.

You want historical examples?
How about Sodom, not into the Bible? (Which is a big part of history and yes there is plenty of historical evidence to back it up)
How about Rome?
Two Civilizations that were destroyed from the inside by being so caught up with pleasure and selfish gratification going beyond the homosexual realm into all sort of depravity, including blood sport.

CLTstraightguy said:
Glad to see I hit a nerve I must be exclaiming some sort of new concept to you.

You are something else… You are basically calling me a “Hater” when I have already stated I have a difference of opinion and as do many others. You have some nerve.

…

Fact:
I’m not a hater, I’m not going to go beat the crap out of you or burn your house down or throw tainted AIDS blood balloons, just because I disagree with you, and neither would most sane humans. However when you march down the street doing lewd sexual, provocative things with the same sex, I am not nor will many sane people bring their kids and wave a rainbow flag, and make it a “Family Event”. It’s disgusting, keep your own sexual behavior to your bloody self, don’t make a public spectacle of yourself.

…

Then why are you bitching about me disagreeing with you and making a sermon about it?
Go on be homosexual, wave your flag, just don’t try and replicate your perversion as a family and don’t expect us who are married (Man and Woman) to call it normal.

…

You want historical examples?
How about Sodom, not into the Bible? (Which is a big part of history and yes there is plenty of historical evidence to back it up)
How about Rome?
Two Civilizations that were destroyed from the inside by being so caught up with pleasure and selfish gratification going beyond the homosexual realm into all sort of depravity, including blood sport.

True, your brand of antisocial behavior does hit a nerve with me. Sadly, the concept is far from new. It’s the same-old, same-old bigotry that the world struggles to move beyond every day, only to be dragged back into the muck by the likes of you.

Yes, you do have a different opinion. Your opinion is that it’s OK to hate people, to despise them, to call them vile names, and — most evil of all — prevent them from living their life with the person they love solely because it offends your entirely idiosyncratic sensibilities. Yep, that makes you a hater, and hence well deserving of any contempt that gets thrown your way.

No one is asking you to call anything “normal.” Whether you consider being gay normal or not is entirely your lookout, as long as you don’t attempt to impose your narrow view on anyone else. But you can’t help yourself, can you? The notion of two committed adults wanting the boon of marriage sends you into paroxysms of rage. The idea that gay people might be proud of themselves, and enjoy celebrating victories over the oppression visited on them by grundyites like you is “disgusting” and you won’t put up with it, right?

(Incidentally, while I’ve only seen a couple of Gay Pride parades in my time, I’m pretty sure that people don’t actually have sex with each other *during* the parade — while they’re marching — so I think your tender eyes are safe.)

As far as “keeping my behavior to myself,” mine is well within social norms. Have you ever held your (presumably female) partner’s hand in public? Given her a quick goodbye kiss? Hugged her? Here’s a newsflash: no gay person I know objects if you do that! Sensible adults recognise that people often express affection in public in modest and rather heartwarming ways — and it’s OK to do so. However, if your lady starts going down on you in the middle of downtown at noontime, I expect you’d cause quite a stir. The same rather sensible rules apply to same-sex couples.

I’ve got a simple proposition: if no one tells you how to think, how about you don’t tell anyone how to act? The only way anyone outside your own circle is going to know you’re a bigot is if you open your mouth and prove it. I can’t compell you to shut up about your irrational prejudices, but I can certainly advise you to do so from the point of view of a heterosexual person who sees how vile you appear to the rest of the world when you spew such hate. And as I find such expressions of bigotry as offensive as the objects of your bigotry do, don’t be surprised when I (or any other evolved human) call you on it.

And as a closing note, your whole Sodom thing is just risible. Yes, apparently there was a city called (approximately) Sodom and it exists no longer. Anything more precise about its fate is arguable in the extreme, but there’s no credible evidence that the prevailing sexuality of its inhabitants had anything at all to do with its passing. And the failure of the Roman Empire had a lot more to do with the debilitating effects of Christianity than its citizens’ sexual practices. If I were you, I’d stay way from the historical examples until you develop a little more patience googling up half a handful of facts.

And no, Bob Guccione movies *don’t* count as research.

mediadoubt said:
Fact-free spew. Homosexuality has been around as long as heterosexuality — as long as sexuality itself, in fact. You consider it deviant but many — in fact most Americans — don’t.

Where are you getting your facts? Here are the poles, in one, neck in neck in the other a pretty large gap in opposition.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/108115/Americans-Evenly-Divided-Morality-Homosexuality.aspx
http://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/Majority-Americans-Continue-Oppose-Gay-Marriage.aspx

I work in the media and we have a saying “All viewers are sheep” as we are the Shepherds… The homosexual writers and producers on Glee know this, and give it time, more sheep like the ones thumbing me down will soon be lambasted with your subtle agenda and you will brainwash them into not having an opinion of their own unless they want their own kids to grow up thinking for themselves that this is an alternative lifestyle that they can choose and their parents will have no problem with.
It comes down to choices. You make them, and you live with them.
Just don’t let the status-quo make the choice for you, don’t let anyone tell you, you are a hater or a phobic because you don’t agree with them. Pretty soon you won’t have a choice, it’ll be a hate crime to stand up for something you believe in…
You just watch… it’s already happened in places like Europe and Canada, and soon it will happen here if people don’t stand up and say enough is enough, you have your freedom and your opinion, but I also have mine and I can disagree with you but still accept you as a human. You don’t decide what is Moral in my eyes.

mediadoubt said:
Yes, you do have a different opinion. Your opinion is that it’s OK to hate people, to despise them, to call them vile names, and — most evil of all — prevent them from living their life with the person they love solely because it offends your entirely idiosyncratic sensibilities. Yep, that makes you a hater, and hence well deserving of any contempt that gets thrown your way.

I’m not despising anyone. You on the other hand or riling off words such as fools and jackass, who is despising who or whom here?
I must admit I have called you an idiot, and that would be my synopsis since you keep insisting that Hate is having a difference of opinion. If anyone is the “Hater” here it would be you with all the slag and name calling spewed.

I am not nor am I going to ever plan on excepting homosexuality as a normal lifestyle and so are many others cause they have a belief structure that is built in to protect them. To you that maybe “Aristocratic” (God, you sound like a communist *No McCarthism intended – I don’t want you jailed for a difference of opinion)

mediadoubt said:
No one is asking you to call anything “normal.” Whether you consider being gay normal or not is entirely your lookout, as long as you don’t attempt to impose your narrow view on anyone else.

Yes, you certainly are, in fact you are calling my view narrow, just because I disagree with you and your opinion.

mediadoubt said:
(Incidentally, while I’ve only seen a couple of Gay Pride parades in my time, I’m pretty sure that people don’t actually have sex with each other *during* the parade — while they’re marching — so I think your tender eyes are safe.)

Well then head up to Toronto Ontario Canada sometime you’ll get an eyeful of disgusting behavior. Incidentally I didn’t mention having sex, I stated lewd behavior, am I to understand you have seen different? I am talking about guys in leather bending over and acting it out… Dry humping in layman’s terms.
Making out on floats and making it look like fellacio.

Look homosexuals can have PDA, just don’t expect most people not to get grossed out by it and if they are having some type of intercourse than hell yes, that is wrong even for straight couples in the public eye.

mediadoubt said:
I’ve got a simple proposition: if no one tells you how to think, how about you don’t tell anyone how to act? The only way anyone outside your own circle is going to know you’re a bigot is if you open your mouth and prove it. I can’t compell you to shut up about your irrational prejudices, but I can certainly advise you to do so from the point of view of a heterosexual person who sees how vile you appear to the rest of the world when you spew such hate. And as I find such expressions of bigotry as offensive as the objects of your bigotry do, don’t be surprised when I (or any other evolved human) call you on it.

It’s not hate, I and millions of others just tend to not agree with you.

Here is a quest for you, stop believing everyone evolved from a mammal, start attending church regularly and stop calling people who disagree or oppose your thinking bigots, rather believe what they say is true…

What? You oppose that? You don’t need too? You would not do that? You don’t choose too?

Then I guess you are the hater, and a bigot.

Live your life, and if any ounce of truth you grasp no matter where. The consequences will sort themselves out and you will learn the truth from the whims of life.
Don’t try to tell others how to live or think, that’s not freedom, it’s control.

CLTstraightguy said:
Where are you getting your facts? Here are the poles, in one, neck in neck in the other a pretty large gap in opposition. http://www.gallup.com/poll/108115/Americans-Evenly-Divided-Morality-Homosexuality.aspxhttp://www.gallup.com/poll/118378/Majority-Americans-Continue-Oppose-Gay-Marriage.aspx I work in the media and we have a saying “All viewers are sheep” as we are the Shepherds… The homosexual writers and producers on Glee know this, and give it time, more sheep like the ones thumbing me down will soon be lambasted with your subtle agenda and you will brainwash them into not having an opinion of their own unless they want their own kids to grow up thinking for themselves that this is an alternative lifestyle that they can choose and their parents will have no problem with.It comes down to choices. You make them, and you live with them.Just don’t let the status-quo make the choice for you, don’t let anyone tell you, you are a hater or a phobic because you don’t agree with them. Pretty soon you won’t have a choice, it’ll be a hate crime to stand up for something you believe in…You just watch… it’s already happened in places like Europe and Canada, and soon it will happen here if people don’t stand up and say enough is enough, you have your freedom and your opinion, but I also have mine and I can disagree with you but still accept you as a human. You don’t decide what is Moral in my eyes.

Interesting poll here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_poll5a.htm#fox (I realize that since it has “tolerance” in the URL you might not have run across it, but there you go.)

You work in the media? And all people are sheep while you are the shepherd?

You are quite the piece of work.

Interesting to note that you admit that you don’t just dismiss gay people as beneath contempt, but everybody else as well. That attitude will take you far, my boy.

You work in media, ehh? In what capacity, cleaning out the break room?

mediadoubt said:
You work in media, ehh? In what capacity, cleaning out the break room?

LOL, you are a piece of work.
I wouldn’t want to strain your mind talking about my line of work, it wouldn’t matter anyway.

You sound familiar with custodial engineering is that your line?

mediadoubt said:
Interesting to note that you admit that you don’t just dismiss gay people as beneath contempt, but everybody else as well. That attitude will take you far, my boy.

So you believe everything you see on the set? Is that your idea of Everybody?

I don’t dismiss homosexuals as beneath me, I and millions of others just disagree with their lifestyle you however dismiss everyone who has a different discerning opinion about homosexuals as haters, bigots or phobic… Who is breeding contempt for who here?

mediadoubt said:
Interesting poll here: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_poll5a.htm#fox (I realize that since it has “tolerance” in the URL you might not have run across it, but there you go.)

Interesting poll indeed, thanks for sharing it.

( )Nice quip too, do you ever stop and think before spewing out such nonsense?

CLTstraightguy said:
Interesting poll indeed, thanks for sharing it. ( )Nice quip too, do you ever stop and think before spewing out such nonsense?

Reading your responses, the quips just roll off my (metaphorical) lips. You offer what we call in quip circles a “target-rich environment.”

mediadoubt said:
Reading your responses, the quips just roll off my (metaphorical) lips. You offer what we call in quip circles a “target-rich environment.”

Quipping Back
And you sure are good at shooting your mouth off and missing the target.

CLTstraightguy said:
Quipping BackAnd you sure are good at shooting your mouth off and missing the target.

I missed the target? Do you mean that you *don’t* clean the break room? You let those greasy paper plates molder and the cigarette butts steep in a bath of styro-encased instant coffee until they give rise to new life? How unhygienic. Perhaps you polish the floor outside the executive washroom.

Does your boss give you a hard time about how many coats of wax you apply?

You seem to be the Custodial Expert, I would say you have the expertise in that area.

Keep cleaning those toilets, it may humble you a little more and get you stop spewing so much crap.

It has been interesting media, but it’s hard to have a good debate with someone who just wants to have a pissing contest. Your attitude sucks… I think you better start understanding what a true hater is.

You hate me don’t you?
Or wait, I’m ignorant cause I disagree with you … no! no! I am a phobic, and a bigot because I don’t think the same sheep way you do!

Crumb, if you had come back with some more interesting statistics, and some decent arguments, and thoughts it may have been worth it to continue to debate, still all you seem to do is witless put-downs. Learn to agree to disagree but don’t put others down just cause they don’t agree with you. That’s just childish.

Grow up.

CLTstraightguy said:
It has been interesting media, but it’s hard to have a good debate with someone who just wants to have a pissing contest. Your attitude sucks… I think you better start understanding what a true hater is.

You hate me don’t you?
Or wait, I’m ignorant cause I disagree with you … no! no! I am a phobic, and a bigot because I don’t think the same sheep way you do!

Crumb, if you had come back with some more interesting statistics, and some decent arguments, and thoughts it may have been worth it to continue to debate, still all you seem to do is witless put-downs. Learn to agree to disagree but don’t put others down just cause they don’t agree with you. That’s just childish.

Grow up.

Well, based on the totality of your comments, this exchange never made it to the level of “debate.”

In fact, there can be no meaningful debate when you begin with the premise that your fellow citizens are despicable and must be restrained from behaving in a way that disgusts you — even though their behavior doesn’t injure you one bit. And then follow that up by saying if I criticize you for such hateful beliefs we merely “disagree.”

No, your attitude violates some of the most important compacts by which people sustain a civil society: “Live and let live.” “Mind your own business.” “Your freedom to swing your fists ends at my nose.” And perhaps most important: “the family is the single most effective way to care for one another.”

I have no idea who you are, and so am incapable of hating you personally. But I hate what you represent. And I think — more accurately, I *know* — that you will continue to attract scorn from civilized people if you express such vile opinions. That fact I find very encouraging. You are on the wrong side of history, and your antediluvian beliefs will fade into irrelevance, probably in your lifetime.

I suggest you find something more comforting to cling to before then. Perhaps a loved one? Of whatever gender seems right to you?

the thing with kathy is that a. what she says is true, and b. it’s those idiots that are giving her her material… such as bachmann…. btw keeva, not all religions are anti-gay. mine certainly isn’t.

Besides being a moron, Victoria Jackson is a bigot! Why doesn’t she just mind her own business and seek therapy? She obviously has issues! No grown up woman talks like a baby, without having some molestation issues! She needs to heal herself, and stop taking it out on innocent people! 

Keep Living this world is going to face some scary truths and it will be too late for some people!  sad but true!