Tucker Carlson Stuns Sam Altman In Wild Interview, Suggests He Ordered a Murder

Tucker Carlson interviewed Sam Altman, the OpenAI CEO, on his internet program this week and, in typical fashion, floated a conspiracy theory about one of Altman’s programmers being murdered – suggesting Altman may have had a hand in it.

During the interview, Carlson pressed Altman on whether or not his AI models use copyrighted content. After Altman says his company does not do that, Carlson noted, “So you’ve had complaints from one programmer who said you guys are basically stealing people’s stuff and not paying them, and then he wound up murdered.”

“What was that?” Carlson asked.

Altman replied, “Also a great tragedy. He committed suicide.”

“Do you think he committed suicide?” Carlson pushed as Altman replied, “I really do.”

“This was like a friend of mine. This was a guy that—and not a close friend, but this was someone that worked at OpenAI for a very long time. I was really shaken by this tragedy. I spent a lot of time trying to read everything I could, as I’m sure, you, and others did too, about what happened. It looks like a suicide to me,” Altman concluded.

“Why does it look like a suicide?” Carlson pushed.

“It was a gun he had purchased. This is like gruesome to talk about, but I read the whole like—” Altman continued, pivoted to ask Carlson, “Does it not look like one to you?”

“No, he was definitely murdered, I think. There were signs of a struggle, of course. The surveillance camera—the wires had been cut. He had just ordered takeout food, come back from a vacation with his friends on Catalina Island. No indication at all that he was suicidal. No note and no behavior. He had spoken to a family member on the phone. And then he’s found dead with blood in multiple rooms. So that’s impossible. It seems really obvious he was murdered. Have you talked to the authorities about it?” Carlson pushed.

“I have not talked to them about it,” Altman replied.

“And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders,” Carlson said.

“Do you believe that?”Altman pushed back.

“I’m—well, I’m asking,” Carlson replied.

“I mean, you just said it, so. Do you believe that?” Altman hit back.

“I think that it is worth looking into,” Carlson replied, adding:

And I don’t—I mean, if a guy comes out and accuses your company of committing crimes—I have no idea if that’s true or not, of course—and then is found killed, and there are signs of a struggle, I don’t think it’s worth dismissing it. I don’t think we should say, “Well, he killed himself,” when there’s no evidence that the guy was depressed at all. I think—and if he was your friend, I would think you would want to speak to his mom or her.

“I did offer; she didn’t want to,” Altman noted.

“So, do you feel that, you know, when people look at that, and they’re like, “You know, it’s possible that happened,” do you feel like that reflects the worries they have about what’s happening here? Like people are afraid that this is like—” Carlson pushed.

Altman hit back, “I haven’t done too many interviews where I’ve been accused of—”

“I’m not accusing you at all. I’m just saying his mother says that. I don’t think a fair read of the evidence suggests suicide at all. I just don’t see that at all, and I also don’t understand why the authorities, when there are signs of a struggle and blood in two rooms on a suicide—like how does that actually happen? I don’t understand how the authorities could just kind of dismiss that as a suicide. I think it’s weird,” Carlson concluded.

“You understand how this sounds like an accusation?” Altman asked.

“Of course, and I—I mean, I certainly—let me just be clear once again, not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but I think it’s worth finding out what happened. And I don’t understand why the city of San Francisco has refused to investigate it beyond just calling it a suicide,” Carlson insisted.

Watch the full clip above.