‘You Have to Answer!’ Fox News Debate Corners DSA Member in Knock-Down, Drag-Out Clash

Fox News’ Martha MacCallum sided with guest Daniel Di Martino, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, during his Tuesday on-air debate, telling Frances Gill, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America’s (DSA) National Political Committee, “You have to answer the Venezuela question!”

Criticizing the DSA platform, Di Martino explained that socialist systems “are not accountable to the consumer” because “they can just get a bailout from the government.”

“That’s what they did to my country of Venezuela,” he continued of ousted Venezuelan dictator Nicolás Maduro. “They destroyed the richest country in Latin America, and the DSA is an organization that supported the destruction of Venezuela. Your team, Frances, traveled to Venezuela to support the dictator of my country that eight million of us fled, and then now you come to America and say, ‘Let’s do it all over again.'”

“Yes, I mean, the capitalists are destroying my country of America,” Gill responded.

“But Frances, you have to answer the Venezuela question,” MacCallum interrupted. “He lived it, okay? His family had to flee it because turning it over to socialism destroyed the country, and people had less healthcare, less housing — all the things that you seem to think socialism will bring — we watched it all, south of our border in Venezuela, and we saw what happened. Tell me why you don’t take anything away from that lesson?”

“If socialism is innately so dangerous and so bad, why does the U.S. expend so much energy sanctioning these countries and overthrowing governments and attempting to overturn the democratic rule of the people?” asked Gill.

Di Martino clapped back, “Frances, I would think you support it because you say we should arrest [Israeli Prime Minister] Benjamin Netanyahu, so I imagine you support the arrest of Nicolás Maduro, who is in a Brooklyn jail after being lawfully indicted.

“I do not support the overthrow of democratically elected leaders anywhere in the country,” Gill responded.

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