Who ya gonna blame this violent rhetoric on lefties?

I blame the lack of socialized healthcare.

Man, this is awful.

He’s obviously traumatized – rightly so – by what he went through. Maybe it’s best for him to just stay home with family and friends and “heal”. Physically and mentally. As best as he can.

We can’t hold him accountable for this, I think, given what he’s been through. But somebody needs to tell him to stay home for awhile.

And the Left’s self-induced destruction of their efforts to blame violence on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party is now complete.

Wasn’t he the guy who was shot and wounded at the event and recently blamed Palin, Beck, etc. for the shooting?

Shooting victim says Beck, Palin, Angle ‘got their first target’

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/01/14/shooting-victim-says-beck-palin-angle-got-their-first-target/#ixzz1B9DW773l

“It looks like Palin, Beck, Sharron Angle and the rest got their first target,” Eric Fuller, a former campaigner for Ariz. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, told Democracy Now. “Their wish for Second Amendment activism has been fulfilled.”

Eric told a woman ” You’re dead ” . Brave man .
Eric needs his teeth rearranged .

perceptorii said:
And the Left’s self-induced destruction of their efforts to blame violence on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party is now complete.

LMAO!!

Don’t worry timzack, if this is the abc town hall (that Christianne amanpour is hosting) she will blame Bush, or sarah, or Beck or anyone else, except this fuller guy. I’m sure abc will find a way to say he was just so distraught over the whole thing. Truth be known, it is clear that whenhe blamed sarah, Beck et al, much like sheriff nifong, they were projecting their own hatred and desires onto others. Typical lefties.

Not that I care but how can anyone vote down my comment?

The man is obviously – as all of us would be – still shaky. I give him a pass in light of that on his comments.

But he needs to stay home and get healthy.

Things are way too hot in Arizona.

It’s obviously Sarah Palin’s fault cuz, uhm, err, uh, she was born.

Who knows what this guy was going through? I would imagine being a victim of a rampage could make you do some crazy stuff. The fact that the entire MSM blamed the tea party, Beck, Palin etc. surely didn’t help.

Most likely PTSD? hope he gets some help before anybody else gets hurt, this is senseless.

SteveMG said:
Not that I care but how can anyone vote down my comment? The man is obviously – as all of us would be – still shaky. I give him a pass in light of that on his comments. But he needs to stay home and get healthy.

if he did something would you still give him a pass, if he does something in the future how would you look back on this, i understand what you meant steveMG but can you see this point to

Nacho said:
Most likely PTSD? hope he gets some help before anybody else gets hurt, this is senseless.

exactly

SteveMG said:
Not that I care but how can anyone vote down my comment? The man is obviously – as all of us would be – still shaky. I give him a pass in light of that on his comments. But he needs to stay home and get healthy.

You were voted down for being too reasonable and not picking sides. You either have to use this event as proof that your side is right or claim another commenter is inciting violence; those are your choices.

Reasonable and nuanced comments have no place here, especially on a topic like this.

This might be why Eric Fuller is upset at Trent Humphries.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/in-the-aggregate/2011/01/14/trent-humphries-blames-giffords-for-saturdays-shooting/

SuperChuñdy said:
You were voted down for being too reasonable and not picking sides. You either have to use this event as proof that your side is right or claim another commenter is inciting violence; those are your choices. Reasonable and nuanced comments have no place here, especially on a topic like this.

really, the man needs help to deal with what he went though, but you want to give him a pass

This is too easy.

It’ll be interesting to see how both the right and left try to spin this.

Big Eddie said:
Eric told a woman ” You’re dead ” . Brave man .
Eric needs his teeth rearranged .

I’d like to commend Big Eddie for having the courage and strength of character to use an online forum to threaten a wounded veteran.

cjd ohio 1 said:
if he did something would you still give him a pass, if he does something in the future how would you look back on this, i understand what you meant steveMG but can you see this point to

Sorry, I can’t see the point. I’m not excusing something he does 6 months from now. I’m not excusing him assaulting someone now.

I’m stating that given the condition he is in, what he went through seeing people blown apart and a 10 year old girl killed, that it’s understandable that he’d respond emotionally. That doesn’t excuse his behavior but it explains his behavior. We all understand mitigating circumstances when someone acts.

As I said, I think it would be better for him if he stayed home and recovered. Going what he went through was probably like PTSD (on some level – and I’m not comparing it to what our soldiers face) and in that type of situation people act emotionally and with shock.

lonestar77 said:
It’s obviously Sarah Palin’s fault cuz, uhm, err, uh, she was born.

Who knows what this guy was going through? I would imagine being a victim of a rampage could make you do some crazy stuff. The fact that the entire MSM blamed the tea party, Beck, Palin etc. surely didn’t help.

Sarah Palin? More like Sarah Falin! Lulz.

Signed,
Typical Mediaite commenter

Nacho said:
This might be why Eric Fuller is upset at Trent Humphries.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/in-the-aggregate/2011/01/14/trent-humphries-blames-giffords-for-saturdays-shooting/

I take that back. After watching the video, this headline is totally bogus. If anything it proves that some people are indeed misrepresenting this stuff and that is very unfortunate and wrong.

cjd ohio 1 said:
really, the man needs help to deal with what he went though, but you want to give him a pass

I believe he was giving you support through the use of sarcasim.

Big Eddie said:
Eric told a woman ” You’re dead ” . Brave man .
Eric needs his teeth rearranged .

I’ll bet out all your siblings, you’re the dumbest. Not really going out on a limb here.

SteveMG said:
Sorry, I can’t see the point. I’m not excusing something he does 6 months from now. I’m not excusing him assaulting someone now. I’m stating that given the condition he is in, what he went through seeing people blown apart and a 10 year old girl killed, that it’s understandable that he’d respond emotionally. That doesn’t excuse his behavior but it explains his behavior. We all understand mitigating circumstances when someone acts. As I said, I think it would be better for him if he stayed home and recovered. Going what he went through was probably like PTSD (on some level – and I’m not comparing it to what our soldiers face) and in that type of situation people act emotionally and with shock.

but he needs help dealing with it, that is my point, not just send him home

WHITE MAN SHOOTS UP A POLITICAL GATHERING, THEY SAY IT IS A MENTAL DISORDER BUT BLACK MAN STANDS IN FRONT OF A POLLING BOOTH WITH A STICK, THEY CALL HIM DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND ASK FOR CONGRESSIONAL / DOJ HEARING

Hopefully all the people that have been libeled fo the last week have security protection. They are going to need it by the time MSNBC and Kos are done. Hopefully they will all survive the death threats.

Nacho said:

http://tucsoncitizen.com/in-the-aggregate/2011/01/14/trent-humphries-blames-giffords-for-saturdays-shooting/

Some hyper-partisan rhetoric from both sides there.

So now it’s Republin/TeaParty types bring a statement Dems threated to bring a gun? Thanks for the civility libs.

adastra said:
I’d like to commend Big Eddie for having the courage and strength of character to use an online forum to threaten a wounded veteran.

You such a fool, He was suggesting that this poor guy take advantage of the enhanced Obama Dental Care. What do you think he was suggesting. Please stop your hate.

Nacho said:
I take that back. After watching the video, this headline is totally bogus. If anything it proves that some people are indeed misrepresenting this stuff and that is very unfortunate and wrong.

Thank you for your honesty.

minorityreport said:
WHITE MAN SHOOTS UP A POLITICAL GATHERING, THEY SAY IT IS A MENTAL DISORDER BUT BLACK MAN STANDS IN FRONT OF A POLLING BOOTH WITH A STICK, THEY CALL HIM DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND ASK FOR CONGRESSIONAL / DOJ HEARING

and gets off scot free

the Tea party and in extension the republican party are all guilty by association and inciting violence implicitly and in some cases explicitly. The war with the Taliban regime of Afghanistan was in a large part due to guilt by association with Al-Qaeda. I am not saying that the Tea Party members be targeted for attacks but i understanddddddddddddddddddddddddd

SarahP. said:
I’ll bet out all your siblings, you’re the dumbest. Not really going out on a limb here.

go away troll or at least make a comment on the subject, jesus you’re like a gnat.

KING on the verandah , keeping it REAL . Fiddle dee dee . All this violence talk is perpetrating the ROYAL vapors on my person . Where’s my hanky ?

ABC was all over this guy; they wanted him on their air because he blamed Palin, Beck, and the tea party rather than the shooter. As you know, that is also ABC’s position – blame sarahand not the shooter.

It turns out it simply backfired on them; they intended to make this gjuy the hero and instead ….. ooops.

cjd ohio 1 said:
and gets off scot free

As they should!!!!

minorityreport said:
WHITE MAN SHOOTS UP A POLITICAL GATHERING, THEY SAY IT IS A MENTAL DISORDER BUT BLACK MAN STANDS IN FRONT OF A POLLING BOOTH WITH A STICK, THEY CALL HIM DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND ASK FOR CONGRESSIONAL / DOJ HEARING

Who called them domestic terrorists? Link please?

minorityreport said:
the Tea party and in extension the republican party are all guilty by association and inciting violence implicitly and in some cases explicitly. The war with the Taliban regime of Afghanistan was in a large part due to guilt by association with Al-Qaeda. I am not saying that the Tea Party members be targeted for attacks but i understanddddddddddddddddddddddddd

glad we have our guns then

gjp said:
You such a fool, He was suggesting that this poor guy take advantage of the enhanced Obama Dental Care. What do you think he was suggesting. Please stop your hate.

You’re so right. That is clearly what he meant. I am a fool and apologize for existing. I will sew my mouth shut and destroy this computer, as soon as I hit submit. I want to thank you for bringing civility and knowledge to this discussion. I wish I could buy you dinner, but you are only words on a screen.

minorityreport said:
the Tea party and in extension the republican party are all guilty by association and inciting violence implicitly and in some cases explicitly. The war with the Taliban regime of Afghanistan was in a large part due to guilt by association with Al-Qaeda. I am not saying that the Tea Party members be targeted for attacks but i understanddddddddddddddddddddddddd

Dude . . . chill.

Don’t blame Fuller at all, this POS Trent Humphries a couple of days ago in an interview said that Gabrielle Giffords should have had more security if she thought she was being threatened and basically blamed her for getting shot.

If I had witnessed people murdered in front of me and someone shot at me and this POS said it was my fault I would have said the same thing to him or worse.

TfT said:
ABC was all over this guy; they wanted him on their air because he blamed Palin, Beck, and the tea party rather than the shooter. As you know, that is also ABC’s position – blame sarahand not the shooter. It turns out it simply backfired on them; they intended to make this gjuy the hero and instead ….. ooops.

Exactly!

timzank said:
Exactly!

You idiots on the far, far right fringe really are brain dead aren’t you?

Color Me Badd said:
Don’t blame Fuller at all, this POS Trent Humphries a couple of days ago in an interview said that Gabrielle Giffords should have had more security if she thought she was being threatened and basically blamed her for getting shot. If I had witnessed people murdered in front of me and someone shot at me and this POS said it was my fault I would have said the same thing to him or worse.

He NEVER said anything of the kind (Humphries). You guys are gonna have to quit lying someday. Seriously. You know your kids will be liars and sniveling whiners as well don’t you? It’s a damn shame, we’ll have a whole other generation of liars and losers like you to contend with. Great.

SarahP. said:
You idiots on the far, far right fringe really are brain dead aren’t you?

Troll.

TODAY’S FANTASY: left wing ABC reporting left wing violent death threats…real media/new media will have to report it

timzank said:
He NEVER said anything of the kind (Humphries). You guys are gonna have to quit lying someday. Seriously. You know your kids will be liars and sniveling whiners as well don’t you? It’s a damn shame, we’ll have a whole other generation of liars and losers like you to contend with. Great.

This coming from a sniveling liar….and whack job. LMAO!!

timzank said:
Troll.

Idiot.

timzank said:
Who called them domestic terrorists? Link please?

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-dallas/kill-their-babies-new-black-panthers-exposed-on-fox-news-transcript-video

I think this man has PSTD and just needs help.

cjd ohio 1 said:
glad we have our guns then

Yes… You got guns like the ones you provided Loughner to shoot up innocent people

minorityreport said:
http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-dallas/kill-their-babies-new-black-panthers-exposed-on-fox-news-transcript-video

I can’t find anything in that link that refers to them as domestic terrorists. Try again.

minorityreport said:
Yes… You got guns like the ones you provided Loughner to shoot up innocent people

Dude . . . you got issues.

SarahP. said:
Idiot.

troll.

timzank said:
troll.

Moron.

minorityreport said:
Yes… You got guns like the ones you provided Loughner to shoot up innocent people

Time for this one to be banned. It’s wrong to be that bold and call them an accomplice to murder.

SarahP. said:
Moron.

Damn, you’re good. I trust you were on the debate team at James Woods High?

Kird said:
Dude . . . you got issues.

I guess you are a selective reader to add to your acute case of selective memory. Maybe the good folks at Faux News can refresh your memory

minorityreport said:
Yes… You got guns like the ones you provided Loughner to shoot up innocent people

nice try lol

Facts are facts folks – this guy wanted his 15 minutes of fame and abc wanted a victim to blame sarah. It is what it is – there is no spinning it either way.

timzank said:
Damn, you’re good. I trust you were on the debate team at James Woods High?

We debated Glen Beck University. They lost. I’m sure you were on it.

WCinWI said:
Time for this one to be banned. It’s wrong to be that bold and call them an accomplice to murder.

what happened to freedom of speech Mr Teabagger?

SarahP. said:
We debated Glen Beck University. They lost. I’m sure you were on it.

GB has a university? Do I get gold after I complete the degree? Woohoo!

minorityreport said:
I guess you are a selective reader to add to your acute case of selective memory. Maybe the good folks at Faux News can refresh your memory

Enlighten me then.

WCinWI said:
GB has a university? Do I get gold after I complete the degree? Woohoo!

Rumor has it, yes. (And yes, GB does have a university – you’re not dreaming). Timzank graduated with honors.

minorityreport said:
what happened to freedom of speech Mr Teabagger?

free speech, rock on

SteveMG said:
Not that I care but how can anyone vote down my comment? The man is obviously – as all of us would be – still shaky. I give him a pass in light of that on his comments. But he needs to stay home and get healthy.

Your a Leftist asshole.

The man got shot, he has the right to his opinion, but threatening someone in the manner he did should get you arrested and psych evaluated. Obviously the man does not understand irony.

minorityreport said:
what happened to freedom of speech Mr Teabagger?

Freedom of speech is alive and well. You realize of course you have freedom of speech because of a bunch of “tea-baggers” toting guns, right?

timzank said:
He NEVER said anything of the kind (Humphries). You guys are gonna have to quit lying someday. Seriously. You know your kids will be liars and sniveling whiners as well don’t you? It’s a damn shame, we’ll have a whole other generation of liars and losers like you to contend with. Great.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/13/2011-01-13_tucson_tea_party_founder_trent_humphries_said_gabrielle_giffords_should_have_had.html

Duke said:
Your a Leftist asshole.

You are a simple dip shit.

SarahP. said:
You are a simple dip shit.

bitch

Duke said:
bitch

Far right wing dip shit.

SarahP. said:
Far right wing dip shit.

cont

don’t make us seperate you two lol

Duke said:
cont

Spell check please.LMAO!!

timzank said:
Freedom of speech is alive and well. You realize of course you have freedom of speech because of a bunch of “tea-baggers” toting guns, right?

Yes Sir. I know everything about guns and I thank you guys for toting the guns. I remember the guns that was used to kill the native indians, I also remember the guns that was used to kill slaves, I cant forget the guns that killed innocent iragis and pakistanis. Yes teabaggers thank you for perpetuating the gun culture…we hail thee!!!

SarahP. said:
Spell check please.LMAO!!

Oops, meant kunt.

I tell ya something, you tea party jokers are starting and inflating tensions. What is wrong with you people.

minorityreport said:
Yes Sir. I know everything about guns and I thank you guys for toting the guns. I remember the guns that was used to kill the native indians, I also remember the guns that was used to kill slaves, I cant forget the guns that killed innocent iragis and pakistanis. Yes teabaggers thank you for perpetuating the gun culture…we hail thee!!!

so guns are bad?

Duke said:
Oops, meant kunt.

Try again there sport. LOL!!

minorityreport said:
WHITE MAN SHOOTS UP A POLITICAL GATHERING, THEY SAY IT IS A MENTAL DISORDER BUT BLACK MAN STANDS IN FRONT OF A POLLING BOOTH WITH A STICK, THEY CALL HIM DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND ASK FOR CONGRESSIONAL / DOJ HEARING

You are mistaken:

“The five federal counts are not likely the final charges to be filed against Loughner. State charges are also likely to come from Arizona authorities. FBI Director Robert Mueller has also indicated that additional charges might be filed under a federal domestic terrorism statute.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110110/us_ac/7579066_jared_lee_loughner_charged_with_five_federal_counts_in_arizona_shooting

skyfet said:
I tell ya something, you tea party jokers are starting and inflating tensions. What is wrong with you people.

how?

SarahP. said:
Try again there sport. LOL!!

how about sweetheart?

SarahP. said:
Far right wing dip shit.

ooh when you talk dirty like that, and i see you picture, i would love to have your leg wrapped around…. oops! stop it.

Duke said:
how about sweetheart?

Only if you really mean it.

Duke said:
ooh when you talk dirty like that, and i see you picture, i would love to have your leg wrapped around…. oops! stop it.

Yes you would, I have no doubt about that.

ok , now get a room

SarahP. said:
Yes you would, I have no doubt about that.

i bet you would be great to have a drink with.

cjd ohio 1 said:
so guns are bad?

Nah guns in its stable state is harmless but in the possession of unstable right wing nuts, it can be a lethal combo…… On a second thought, what happened to the biblical “turn the other cheek or love thy neighbor or vengeance is for the lords?”

Weirdest comment thread I think have ever read especially given the topic.

cjd ohio 1 said:
ok , now get a room

LOL!

adastra said:
You’re so right. That is clearly what he meant. I am a fool and apologize for existing. I will sew my mouth shut and destroy this computer, as soon as I hit submit. I want to thank you for bringing civility and knowledge to this discussion. I wish I could buy you dinner, but you are only words on a screen.

Why don’t you take SarahP to dinner? She adds much more civility and knowledge to this discussion:

SarahP. said:
I’ll bet out all your siblings, you’re the dumbest. Not really going out on a limb here.

SarahP. said:
You idiots on the far, far right fringe really are brain dead aren’t you?

SarahP. said:
This coming from a sniveling liar….and whack job. LMAO!!

SarahP. said:
Far right wing dip shit.

Duke said:
i bet you would be great to have a drink with.

I’ll be you say that to all the posters.

minorityreport said:
Nah guns in its stable state is harmless but in the possession of unstable right wing nuts, it can be a lethal combo…… On a second thought, what happened to the biblical “turn the other cheek or love thy neighbor or vengeance is for the lords?”

how about left-wing nuts, and criminals are they still bad?

Powerslave said:
Why don’t you take SarahP to dinner? She adds much more civility and knowledge to this discussion:

Thanks for the thumbs up, uh Powerslave. Love the user name by the way.

I wouldn’t f*ck Sarah P with Bea Arthur’s d*ck.

Oh snap, I was supposed to destroy this computer!

Powerslave said:
Why don’t you take SarahP to dinner? She adds much more civility and knowledge to this discussion:

Is your name a reference to the Iron Maiden record? Awesome.

adastra said:
I wouldn’t f*ck Sarah P with Bea Arthur’s d*ck.

Oh snap, I was supposed to destroy this computer!

Me neither.

old joke, put the computer away lol

Powerslave said:
You are mistaken:

“The five federal counts are not likely the final charges to be filed against Loughner. State charges are also likely to come from Arizona authorities. FBI Director Robert Mueller has also indicated that additional charges might be filed under a federal domestic terrorism statute.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110110/us_ac/7579066_jared_lee_loughner_charged_with_five_federal_counts_in_arizona_shooting

I am referring to the court of the main stream media NOT the court of justice. Cos all they have done is try to link the killing with mental disorder. F**k that, Loughner is far from unstable. that fool is SANE. I am against the death penalty but if it was a black man, they would take the electric chair or gas chamber to his house to fry his black ass!!!!

Nacho said:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/01/13/2011-01-13_tucson_tea_party_founder_trent_humphries_said_gabrielle_giffords_should_have_had.html

Um, no. That’s blatantly twisting his words to make him say something they didn’t. Humphries was not blaming Giffords for the shooting. He was asserting that the supposed “violent and heated rhetoric” of the Tea Party obviously wasn’t all that scary if Giffords believed she could hold his event safely without much security. Unfortunately she didn’t account for one crazed individual, but she obviously can’t be held responsible for not anticipating that.

adastra said:
Is your name a reference to the Iron Maiden record? Awesome.

Awesome dude!!

SteveMG said:
We can’t hold him accountable for this, I think, given what he’s been through. But somebody needs to tell him to stay home for awhile.

I agree. It’s sad when people respond to hateful comments with even more hateful comments but the guy was recently shot. He needs to take a break from political confrontations.

minorityreport said:
I am referring to the court of the main stream media NOT the court of justice. Cos all they have done is try to link the killing with mental disorder. F**k that, Loughner is far from unstable. that fool is SANE. I am against the death penalty but if it was a black man, they would take the electric chair or gas chamber to his house to fry his black ass!!!!

a little bigoted i can see, talk it out

SarahP. said:
Thanks for the thumbs up, uh Powerslave. Love the user name by the way.

adastra said:
Is your name a reference to the Iron Maiden record? Awesome.

I’m a Maiden fan from way back. Powerslave is one of my favorite albums.

Finally, we have some common ground. Metal is way more powerful than politics.

Duke said:
Your a Leftist asshole.

As are all those who show compassion to the recently wounded by gunfire. Good call.

adastra said:
Finally, we have some common ground. Metal is way more powerful than politics.

Agreed. Well, enough about music. Back to the heated rhetoric.

I kid. ;)

perceptorii said:
Um, no. That’s blatantly twisting his words to make him say something they didn’t. Humphries was not blaming Giffords for the shooting. He was asserting that the supposed “violent and heated rhetoric” of the Tea Party obviously wasn’t all that scary if Giffords believed she could hold his event safely without much security. Unfortunately she didn’t account for one crazed individual, but she obviously can’t be held responsible for not anticipating that.

I am really just focusing on the part where he said if she felt threatened she should have had the appropriate security around. That pretty much is putting blame on her due to her own negligence. Wether that be true, it was bad timing and I could see how a victim would be upset about that insensitive comment.

Maybe Fuller wanted Humphries to feel the fear and uneasiness that Gifford has been going through since Palin put out her “hitlist.”

Nacho said:
That pretty much is putting blame on her

That’s where you are making shit up.It’s admittedly your own interpretation, and it’s bogus.

minorityreport said:
Yes… You got guns like the ones you provided Loughner to shoot up innocent people

No, we have firearms to protect us from Jared types…like you for example.

timzank said:
Who ya gonna blame this violent rhetoric on lefties?

The lame stream media and the lefty loons!!

Nacho said:
I am really just focusing on the part where he said if she felt threatened she should have had the appropriate security around.

Or to put it another way, you were taking part of the quote out of context.

You can thank Barack Obama for not telling his side to cool it. This is all on Obama now. Obama is responsible for all the heated rhetoric now and everyone should call him on it… he is the President of all Americans, not just his liberal wackos and the Democrat Party.

I consider myself to be a liberal and I absolutely hate the Tea Party. However, I have absolutely no tolerance for people who threaten others with violence or any other kind of abuse, no matter who it’s coming from or directed towards. I hope this guy gets the counseling he obviously needs.

“Eric Fuller, a former campaigner for Ariz. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, told Democracy Now. ”

Hey, isn’t Democracy now funded by George Soros? How ironic.

jamesphilip said:
You can thank Barack Obama for not telling his side to cool it. This is all on Obama now. Obama is responsible for all the heated rhetoric now and everyone should call him on it… he is the President of all Americans, not just his liberal wackos and the Democrat Party.

He did tell everyone to calm down. Anyone who actually watched his speech knows that.

Mr B said:
“Eric Fuller, a former campaigner for Ariz. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, told Democracy Now. ” Hey, isn’t Democracy now funded by George Soros? How ironic.

Go figure.

jjay7381 said:
I consider myself to be a liberal and I absolutely hate the Tea Party. However, I have absolutely no tolerance for people who threaten others with violence or any other kind of abuse, no matter who it’s coming from or directed towards. I hope this guy gets the counseling he obviously needs.

You hate people that are for fiscal sanity? Odd.

“He has been profiled by CBS and has publicly blamed Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Sharron Angle for inciting the violence that caused the events of last Saturday.”

Well, of course THAT got him on CBS…

The guy needs to be given a break, already. It’s obvious that he’s needs some help after the trauma he’s been through.

timzank said:
He NEVER said anything of the kind (Humphries). You guys are gonna have to quit lying someday. Seriously. You know your kids will be liars and sniveling whiners as well don’t you? It’s a damn shame, we’ll have a whole other generation of liars and losers like you to contend with. Great.

He didnt?

http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2011/01/trent-humphries-blames-giffords-for-saturdays-shooting.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BlogForArizona+%28Blog+For+Arizona%29

adastra said:
I wouldn’t f*ck Sarah P with Bea Arthur’s d*ck.

Oh snap, I was supposed to destroy this computer!

You sure do talk about her enough.

I’m sure her and Todd are just fine. I’m sure Palin wouldn’t want anyone as crude as you or the majority of the lefties on this blog. Thank goodness.

jjay7381 said:
I hope this guy gets the counseling he obviously needs.

Yes.

WCinWI said:
You sure do talk about her enough.

I’m sure her and Todd are just fine. I’m sure Palin wouldn’t want anyone as crude as you or the majority of the lefties on this blog. Thank goodness.

Its a lot of fun talking about her, she’s hilarious! I can’t remember the last media figure that was as entertaining. Mel comes close but he didn’t have much staying power. I’m all for her remaining in the public eye for the comedy gold she continually drops, but god help us all if she ever had power! She’d be bombing countries she’d never heard of within days!

Color Me Badd said:
He didnt? http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2011/01/trent-humphries-blames-giffords-for-saturdays-shooting.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BlogForArizona+%28Blog+For+Arizona%29

Listen up sh*t fer brains, if you can listen to that clip, the actual words he says, and somehow come up with him “blaming” giffords you are either retarded or just a rabid partisan hack. Why can’t you frick sticks just be honest? Seriously. You’re disgraceful.

Oh, geez. Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back took it personally. Shocking. Why, he even holds the Tea Party and its chickenhawks responsible. How dare he!! Gasp. The Tea Party’s too tight tinfoil hat giving cover to enough schizophrenic paranoids nationwide, drawing together Stormfront and FAIRUS and the CCC and too many relics of the past to name. Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back won’t take their shit much less their bullet in the back and the Tealiban (yeah, you earned that now) apologists line up to take another shot at him. Klassy.

Color Me Badd said:
He didnt?

If the “question” is being set up (with no proof, whatsoever) that you and Sara Palin are the reason that a schizophrenic man shot Rep. Giffords, and that Giffords feared that it was coming…then this is a legitimate response to that set-up.

“It’s political gamesmanship. The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” he said. “

Bill Adkins said:
Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back won’t take their shit much less their bullet in the back and the Tealiban (yeah, you earned that now) apologists line up to take another shot at him. Klassy.

Just as the natural response to this screed would be that if you so utterly positive that the shooter was being mind-controlled by rhetoric from Sara Palin and Teaparty Movement, and that political speech is a form of Chinese brainwashing, why aren’t you the last person on earth to engage in this sort tone, tenor, and ranting.

Bill Adkins said:
Oh, geez. Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back took it personally. Shocking. Why, he even holds the Tea Party and its chickenhawks responsible. How dare he!! Gasp. The Tea Party’s too tight tinfoil hat giving cover to enough schizophrenic paranoids nationwide, drawing together Stormfront and FAIRUS and the CCC and too many relics of the past to name. Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back won’t take their shit much less their bullet in the back and the Tealiban (yeah, you earned that now) apologists line up to take another shot at him. Klassy.

There will most certainly be a special place in the after life for people like you. I can only hope your offspring aren’t like you, it perpetuates the problem.

Seriously, I know you are a paid liar (being a lawyer) but how can you (with a straight face) even remotely tie this kid to anything having to do with political rhetoric on the part of conservatives? Even for a guy that lies for a living like you do, that’s beyond the pale.

Cecelia said:
Just as the natural response to this screed would be that if you so utterly positive that the shooter was being mind-controlled by rhetoric from Sara Palin and Teaparty Movement, and that political speech is a form of Chinese brainwashing, why aren’t you the last person on earth to engage in this sort tone, tenor, and ranting.

Did I bring up Palin? Why did you bring up Chinese brainwashing? Why aren’t you the last person to be coheret?

Not a surprise. Libs are a threat to America so his threat to a TP member is nothing new.

All they do is hate.

timzank said:
There will most certainly be a special place in the after life for people like you. I can only hope your offspring aren’t like you, it perpetuates the problem. Seriously, I know you are a paid liar (being a lawyer) but how can you (with a straight face) even remotely tie this kid to anything having to do with political rhetoric on the part of conservatives? Even for a guy that lies for a living like you do, that’s beyond the pale.

Yet you don’t understand why or expect Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back to take it personally. Instead you ask the amorphous left to take responsibility for his anger at someone who pissed him off. Even for a guy like you who has shit for brains that’s amazing.

adastra said:
Its a lot of fun talking about her, she’s hilarious! I can’t remember the last media figure that was as entertaining. Mel comes close but he didn’t have much staying power. I’m all for her remaining in the public eye for the comedy gold she continually drops, but god help us all if she ever had power! She’d be bombing countries she’d never heard of within days!

You’re comedy gold with all of your mistypes. I find it really funny when people call her dumb, yet can’t type themselves.

Will the MSM cover this? Let’s take bets.

timzank said:
Seriously. You’re disgraceful.

Well, sometimes it does make you wonder who is more given to flight of ideas, loose associations, ideas of reference, and fixed delusions.

Schizophrenics or political partisans.

adastra said:
Its a lot of fun talking about her, she’s hilarious! I can’t remember the last media figure that was as entertaining. Mel comes close but he didn’t have much staying power. I’m all for her remaining in the public eye for the comedy gold she continually drops, but god help us all if she ever had power! She’d be bombing countries she’d never heard of within days!

Plus, most of the time when someone remains fascinated with talking about someone, it’s because they have their own hidden issues to work through. You might want to examine why you’re a misogynist.

Cecelia said:
Schizophrenics or political partisans.

Which came first? Schizophrenia or liberalism? They both are the same.

Oh I wish I could lock all of you in a room and videotape the results. I wonder how much damage you could inflict with keyboards at close range. Its how we used to solve the problem with people mouthing off in the old neighborhood….except we didn’t use keyboards…..or guns. We had a pretty quiet neighborhood for the most part….

WCinWI said:
You’re comedy gold with all of your mistypes. I find it really funny when people call her dumb, yet can’t type themselves.

jesus, are you the apostrophe police? Keep that in mind when I run for vice president, and question my abilities, please!

Bill Adkins said:
Yet you don’t understand why or expect Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back to take it personally. Instead you ask the amorphous left to take responsibility for his anger at someone who pissed him off. Even for a guy like you who has shit for brains that’s amazing.

I would expect him to take it out on the guy that shot him.

WCinWI said:
Plus, most of the time when someone remains fascinated with talking about someone, it’s because they have their own hidden issues to work through. You might want to examine why you’re a misogynist.

Name calling isn’t nice. I thought you were taking the high road? Insulting one individual, who happens to be a woman, does not make me a misogynist.

Bill Adkins said:
Yet you don’t understand why or expect Eric Fuller a 63-year-old military veteran who was shot in the back to take it personally.

Bill, it should occur to you (and perhaps will at some point…) that in order for Eric Fuller to have taken it personally to the point of going to Tea Party meeting. He had to be convinced beyond any evidence that people (that he very likely hated in the first place) had metaphorically pulled the trigger, along with the killer actually having pulled the trigger.

Now, you obviously take this as an unassailable truth carved in Mt. Sinai, but there’s a fair amount of people in the U.S. population who don’t. And unless “most” the country is Republican, the majority of Americans do not for reasons that have nothing to do with ideology.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/137949-poll-most-americans-dont-think-violent-political-rhetoric-caused-shooting

timzank said:
Listen up sh*t fer brains, if you can listen to that clip, the actual words he says, and somehow come up with him “blaming” giffords you are either retarded or just a rabid partisan hack. Why can’t you frick sticks just be honest? Seriously. You’re disgraceful.

It is not in the video clip.

Read the article.

notsofast said:
Which came first? Schizophrenia or liberalism? They both are the same.

That’s silly.

adastra said:
jesus, are you the apostrophe police? Keep that in mind when I run for vice president, and question my abilities, please!

I’m with you there! I’d rather iron clothes than proof read!

Nacho said:
It is not in the video clip. Read the article.

Same goes for the article, he never implied it was Giffords on fault, you are inferring that, and it’s not accurate. You are a liar.

Why do Krugman, Olbermann, Maher, Matthews, et. al. insist on inciting violence among their fellow leftwing zealots? How many people have to die before they are willing to tone down their rhetoric?

I do not say he is blaming her for the shooting. He is blaming her for negligence of lack of security if she was really threatened by Palin’s “hitlist”

He may even be correct, she should not have trusted the public when she has received so many threats because of Palin’s “hitlist.” But I think it just was bad timing. Too soon, ya know?

“It’s political gamesmanship. The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” [Trent Humphries] said
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I meant Town Hall meeting, sorry.

^

timzank said:
Same goes for the article, he never implied it was Giffords on fault, you are inferring that, and it’s not accurate. You are a liar.

Nacho said:
I do not say he is blaming her for the shooting. He is blaming her for negligence of lack of security if she was really threatened by Palin’s “hitlist” He may even be correct, she should not have trusted the public when she has received so many threats because of Palin’s “hitlist.” But I think it just was bad timing. Too soon, ya know? “It’s political gamesmanship. The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” [Trent Humphries] said-

You’ll go to hell for spinning just like lying. You people are despicable and fortunately most Americans are aware of it. Your core base of lefty pooh flingers are believers, but the voters won’t be.

Nacho said:
I do not say he is blaming her for the shooting. He is blaming her for negligence of lack of security if she was really threatened by Palin’s “hitlist”

He’s rejecting the set-up from the interviewer. The notion that Giffords lived in immediate fear from a crosshairs symbol being placed on a map of her district. He’s saying to the interviewer, if your set-up is correct, then why didn’t her behavior reflect this.

perceptorii said:
Or to put it another way, you were taking part of the quote out of context.

How is this out of context? If I am, please explain and I will surely recant my opinion.

“It’s political gamesmanship. The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” [Trent Humphries] said

It’s like saying a girl that was raped shouldn’t have worn that short skirt and that low cut top. It is placing blame.

timzank said:
You’ll go to hell for spinning just like lying. You people are despicable and fortunately most Americans are aware of it. Your core base of lefty pooh flingers are believers, but the voters won’t be.

Nacho, seriously just give up. No mere mortal can compete with the supreme intelligence displayed in the classic “hellbound/pooh finger” argument. You might as well be up against a Greek philosopher here.

I recommend dignified surrender in the face of such wisdom.

adastra said:
Name calling isn’t nice. I thought you were taking the high road? Insulting one individual, who happens to be a woman, does not make me a misogynist.

I fear people no longer have any idea what misogyny is, so may I introduce Dave Chappelle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=surhMVvZQYg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEIOohS65eA&feature=related
Now THAT is misogynistic

Cecelia said:
He’s rejecting the set-up from the interviewer. The notion that Giffords lived in immediate fear from a crosshairs symbol being placed on a map of her district. He’s saying to the interviewer, if your set-up is correct, then why didn’t her behavior reflect this.

Don’t go throwing facts and common sense at them Cecelia, it just makes them madder and fling more poo.

The whole premise is so lacking in common sense it is stunning, but once these guys get their orders, they stick with the plan, no matter how ridiculous it sounds to sne Americans.

What’s interesting is that this Town Hall meeting was sponsored by ABC News.

Those meetings are screened. You don’t just waltz in.

CBS had done a profile on Fuller, so his sentiments toward the Tea Party people and Palin were well known.

Did ABC invite Fuller to the meeting in order for him to confront Humphries, and did they get more than they bargained for?

adastra said:
Nacho, seriously just give up. No mere mortal can compete with the supreme intelligence displayed in the classic “hellbound/pooh finger” argument. You might as well be up against a Greek philosopher here. I recommend dignified surrender in the face of such wisdom.

Wise choice oh ignorant one.

“though, oddly, ABC News has yet to report on this incident.”

Curiouser and curiouser.

Hey, Francis, why don’t you and any other enterprising journalist find out if ABC knowingly invited an extremely angry man to a meeting where he would encounter people he blamed for mass murder.

Now THAT would be instigating violence, indeed.

Cecelia said:
He’s rejecting the set-up from the interviewer. The notion that Giffords lived in immediate fear from a crosshairs symbol being placed on a map of her district. He’s saying to the interviewer, if your set-up is correct, then why didn’t her behavior reflect this.

That is possible. Do you think this British reporter was out to get him?
It seemed like a non hostile interview to me.

The family sure expressed that Gifford had been traumatized by The Tea Party and Palin’s rhetoric. I suppose Humphries attempt to deny that she was actually concerned could be seen as calling Giffords a liar.

Cecelia said:
“though, oddly, ABC News has yet to report on this incident.” Curiouser and curiouser. Hey, Francis, why don’t you and any other enterprising journalist find out if ABC knowingly invited an extremely angry man to a meeting where he would encounter people he blamed for mass murder. Now THAT would be instigating violence, indeed.

They’re still consulting with a battery of lawyers.

timzank said:
Freedom of speech is alive and well. You realize of course you have freedom of speech because of a bunch of “tea-baggers” toting guns, right?

Oh gosh, most of the original “tea baggers” (though I believe the tea bag device was not created until the 20th century) were trade unionists dressed up like Native Americans.

If God forbid he did something, I’d blame the media (and the shooter). The Tea Party was in NO way involved in the shooting and the reason it’s in his head is because of the media. They’d bettered hope someone doesn’t go off because of their violent rhetoric. We already know that Palin is getting a huge number of death threats. I wonder if they are happy now. This will go down as when the liberal hack media lost whatever credibility they had left, which granted wasn’t much. Shame on you!

timzank said:
The whole premise is so lacking in common sense it is stunning, but once these guys get their orders, they stick with the plan, no matter how ridiculous it sounds to sne Americans.

Well, it’s lacking in anything but assumptions.

Some assumptions are rather like favorite jeans. You’re going to hold on to them as long as there’s a thread to cling to.

adastra said:
Nacho, seriously just give up. No mere mortal can compete with the supreme intelligence displayed in the classic “hellbound/pooh finger” argument. You might as well be up against a Greek philosopher here.

I recommend dignified surrender in the face of such wisdom.

I’m going to take your advice.

This football game is looking to be a good one. I hope The Falcons of Atlanta “take out” The Packers of Green Bay.

Nacho said:
The family sure expressed that Gifford had been traumatized by The Tea Party and Palin’s rhetoric.

They’re going to say and even believe that now whether it’s true or not, they are under duress from having a loved one shot. They are not of the clearest mind, but the American public, which is much farther detached from the situation can see how ridiculous the implication of conservative rhetoric even getting within ear-shot of this 22 year old kid is preposterous.

In that case, go Green Bay!!

Nacho said:
That is possible. Do you think this British reporter was out to get him?
It seemed like a non hostile interview to me.

The family sure expressed that Gifford had been traumatized by The Tea Party and Palin’s rhetoric. I suppose Humphries attempt to deny that she was actually concerned could be seen as calling Giffords a liar.

Yeah, I think the interviewer was doing what they do, putting pressure on Humphries to account for the accusation that he and Palin had caused Giffords to fear for her life.

Humphries responded in a way that logically challenged the interviewer’s formulation: why is your portrayal of Giffords psyche contradictory to her actions.

timzank said:
They’re still consulting with a battery of lawyers.

I’d really like to know if Fuller was invited to that meeting by ABC News, and if his threat to Humphries was something he shouted out from his seat or something that he made as a chosen audience participant.

Big Eddie said:
Eric told a woman ” You’re dead ” . Brave man .Eric needs his teeth rearranged .

Just passing through… unrelated to the story. Listened to an old time radio show today…Edward G. Robinson played a man totally absorbed by becoming just like Edward G. Robinson. Eddie played both roles. Like the avatar.

Nacho said:
How is this out of context? If I am, please explain and I will surely recant my opinion.

“It’s political gamesmanship. The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?” [Trent Humphries] said

It’s like saying a girl that was raped shouldn’t have worn that short skirt and that low cut top. It is placing blame.

No, it is not. It’s not placing any blame on Giffords whatsoever. It is asserting that the “heated rhetoric” obviously wasn’t all that threatening if Giffords felt safe without any security. Her lack of security is proof that she wasn’t being seriously threatened by the local Tea Party groups.

perceptorii said:
No, it is not. It’s not placing any blame on Giffords whatsoever. It is asserting that the “heated rhetoric” obviously wasn’t all that threatening if Giffords felt safe without any security. Her lack of security is proof that she wasn’t being seriously threatened by the local Tea Party groups.

Or not.

timzank said:
The whole premise is so lacking in common sense it is stunning, but once these guys get their orders, they stick with the plan, no matter how ridiculous it sounds to sne Americans.

Isn’t it beginning to seem like all these acts of violence and death threats began just after the spoiled-brat party got routed in the last election? I wonder if all this is orchestrated by the DNC, and if even worse things are on their schedule of events. They now know their media will respond instantly with blaming Conservatives who WON THE ELECTION AND HAVE NO REASON TO ACT WITH SUCH INTENSE HATRED. Democrats, however……………………

perceptorii said:
No, it is not. It’s not placing any blame on Giffords whatsoever. It is asserting that the “heated rhetoric” obviously wasn’t all that threatening if Giffords felt safe without any security. Her lack of security is proof that she wasn’t being seriously threatened by the local Tea Party groups.

It’s like trying to explain something really simple to a kid. It takes 15 times, breaking down each sentence and explaining it word by word.

valkyrie101 said:
Or not.

You know you’re usually a pretty smart debater, are you really telling us you are buying the “sarah & tea party” rhetoric influenced this kid in any way shape or form? Honestly? I wasn’t completely ready to throw you in that pile.

Ha!

Here’s something interesting. It’s a map putting targets on a political district map that was put out by the Democratic Leadership Council in 2004!

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

Cecelia said:
I’d really like to know if Fuller was invited to that meeting by ABC News, and if his threat to Humphries was something he shouted out from his seat or something that he made as a chosen audience participant.

I suspect Amanpour will find her highest ratings yet tomorrow as we all try to find out.

It’s even got a caption saying “Behind enemy lines’ referring to districts that went for Bush!

Pablo said:
I suspect Amanpour will find her highest ratings yet tomorrow as we all try to find out.

Right….

I’m sure the rest of the media is just chomping at the bit to learn whether or not ABC News set up an angry Fuller- Humphries meeting…

This is priceless! The Democratic Leadership Council target map is captioned:

“BEHIND ENEMY LINES: Bush won nine states by single-digit margins. These states should be ripe targets for Democrats…”

That’s hilarious!

Cecelia said:
Ha! Here’s something interesting. It’s a map putting targets on a political district map that was put out by the Democratic Leadership Council in 2004! http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

Safe to say that map won’t come up on Amanpours show. Or anywhere else except Fox.

Well, the way I read it is that ABC is reporting on the incident,but they are NOTreporting the threat to the tea party, just that there was a threat!

Bwahahahaha

This is the same network that blamed the tea party and Sarah for the shooting incident last Saturday but when an on-air threaT TO THE TEA PARTY is made at THEIR TOWN HALL, they are spiking the therat to the tea party.

If this is true, then ABC is truly gone off the deep end from even thinking abuot being a “news” network to being a complete and total propaganda network for team Obama. We know that Christianne hates Sarah, and we know that Stephanopalous already refuses to apologize for the misreporting last week (blame Sarah), and now they are SPIKING THE TRUTH AND FACT???

ABC – All bull caca

Here’s the link to the DLC target map.

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253055&kaid=127&subid=171

timzank said:
Listen up sh*t fer brains, if you can listen to that clip, the actual words he says, and somehow come up with him “blaming” giffords you are either retarded or just a rabid partisan hack. Why can’t you frick sticks just be honest? Seriously. You’re disgraceful.

Awww Getting mad bro?

ABC News will report the story in full. It wouldn’t make any sense not to.

Nacho said:
He may even be correct, she should not have trusted the public when she has received so many threats because of Palin’s “hitlist.”

Could you tell us a bit more about those threats? This is the first I’ve heard of them.

Color Me Badd said:
Awww Getting mad bro?

Stupid is irritating. As is lying.

Cecelia said:
I’d really like to know if Fuller was invited to that meeting by ABC News, and if his threat to Humphries was something he shouted out from his seat or something that he made as a chosen audience participant.

Was this supposed to be ABC’s sick twisted version of a reality show? I really hope that Fuller was not set up for a confrontation by ABC without his knowledge, with the idea being a left/right shouting match where the TP guy gets the blame.

From the news report at azcentral it seemed Humpries never even heard the threat.

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
If God forbid he did something, I’d blame the media (and the shooter). The Tea Party was in NO way involved in the shooting and the reason it’s in his head is because of the media. They’d bettered hope someone doesn’t go off because of their violent rhetoric. We already know that Palin is getting a huge number of death threats. I wonder if they are happy now. This will go down as when the liberal hack media lost whatever credibility they had left, which granted wasn’t much. Shame on you!

Didn’t you know? In order to belong to the Tea Party, you must have a skull on your backyard. It’s protocol.

Helix said:
Was this supposed to be ABC’s sick twisted version of a reality show? I really hope that Fuller was not set up for a confrontation by ABC without his knowledge, with the idea being a left/right shouting match where the TP guy gets the blame.

From the news report at azcentral it seemed Humpries never even heard the threat.

Now they’re really gonna need Tapper.

Was this an example of Eric Fuller being ‘Tolerant’ or ‘Compassionate?’ Libs, please let us know.

timzank said:
perceptorii said:
No, it is not. It’s not placing any blame on Giffords whatsoever. It is asserting that the “heated rhetoric” obviously wasn’t all that threatening if Giffords felt safe without any security. Her lack of security is proof that she wasn’t being seriously threatened by the local Tea Party groups.

Here was the quote:
perceptorii said:
“No, it is not. It’s not placing any blame on Giffords whatsoever. It is asserting that the “heated rhetoric” obviously wasn’t all that threatening if Giffords felt safe without any security. Her lack of security is proof that she wasn’t being seriously threatened by the local Tea Party groups.”

Then I said: “Or not”. Because her lack of security does not prove anything, much less whether she was afraid of tea partiers.

Helix said:
Was this supposed to be ABC’s sick twisted version of a reality show? I really hope that Fuller was not set up for a confrontation by ABC without his knowledge, with the idea being a left/right shouting match where the TP guy gets the blame.

From the news report at azcentral it seemed Humpries never even heard the threat.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16fuller.html?_r=1

If you read this you will see that Fuller was already a powder keg before the shooting.

He was in a heated exchange with someone else (to the point where they had to be pulled apart) just BEFORE the shooter struck.

The person Fuller was arguing with so heatedly was shot and killed in the attack.

It’s incredibly ironic that amidst a narrative where Tea Party and Palin rhetoric is blamed for the actions of a mass murderer (without a shred of proof), Eric Fuller not only spouts this narrative-rhetoric, he takes it to heart so fully that he threatens to kill the head of the Tea Party Movement.

valkyrie101 said:
Because her lack of security does not prove anything, much less whether she was afraid of tea partiers.

Well, of course it does suggests that she wasn’t so afraid that she wouldn’t stand on parking lot and greet a crowd of potential strangers.

Helix said:
From the news report at azcentral it seemed Humpries never even heard the threat.

Yes, I just read that at the NYT link. Evidently he said it from the crowd.

Now, I’d like to know if Fuller was invited into the event by ABC News or any other media outlet.

A while back Anderson Cooper of CNN confronted someone for all the hatred in Pima County TOWARDS Sheriff Arpaio,and it wasn’t the Tea Party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwnW_YyR510&feature=player_embedded

…and watch what they do.

Thanks Cecelia for the NYT link. Judging by his previous and current behavior, this is probably not the guy the left really wants to make their star witness in the bogus case of conservative rhetoric & vitriol. This is going to get very interesting.

Latin2 said:
A while back Anderson Cooper of CNN confronted someone for all the hatred in Pima County TOWARDS Sheriff Arpaio,and it wasn’t the Tea Party. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwnW_YyR510&feature=player_embedded …and watch what they do.

That’s a great clip. Funny how Pima county has a crime rate is like double what Maricopa’ s is too.

timzank said:
Thanks Cecelia for the NYT link. Judging by his previous and current behavior, this is probably not the guy the left really wants to make their star witness in the bogus case of conservative rhetoric & vitriol. This is going to get very interesting.

What’s really interesting is there is no proof that the Arizona killer ever saw the crosshairs map or ever followed any Tea Party rhetoric, etc.

However, there is a DIRECT link between media rhetoric blaming the Tea Party and Sara Palin to a man who went to a Town Meeting and told a Tea Party honcho, “You’re dead”.

jamesphilip said:
You can thank Barack Obama for not telling his side to cool it. This is all on Obama now. Obama is responsible for all the heated rhetoric now and everyone should call him on it… he is the President of all Americans, not just his liberal wackos and the Democrat Party.

I love the ongoing personal responsibility theme of this post.

I just read that the Town Hall Meeting was to bring victims and eye-witnesses of the Arizona shooting together.

SteveMG said:
He’s obviously traumatized – rightly so – by what he went through.

Make excuses for him. He’s a liberal. But your excuses ring hollow.

X-3 said:
Make excuses for him. He’s a liberal. But your excuses ring hollow.

No, they don’t ring hollow. You don’t go through something like this man did without being severely traumatized.

Cecelia said:
What’s really interesting is there is no proof that the Arizona killer ever saw the crosshairs map or ever followed any Tea Party rhetoric, etc.

What will you bet that Loughner’s lawyer is building that very defense as we speak?

timzank said:
That’s a great clip. Funny how Pima county has a crime rate is like double what Maricopa’ s is too.

Quite a remarkable and telling observation.

X-3 said:
What will you bet that Loughner’s lawyer is building that very defense as we speak?

Loughner was never shot and he never watched the murder of people around him (including a nine year old)

Cecelia said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16fuller.html?_r=1

If you read this you will see that Fuller was already a powder keg before the shooting.

He was in a heated exchange with someone else (to the point where they had to be pulled apart) just BEFORE the shooter struck.

The person Fuller was arguing with so heatedly was shot and killed in the attack.

It’s incredibly ironic that amidst a narrative where Tea Party and Palin rhetoric is blamed for the actions of a mass murderer (without a shred of proof), Eric Fuller not only spouts this narrative-rhetoric, he takes it to heart so fully that he threatens to kill the head of the Tea Party Movement.

Thanks for the link. Oh my. I can just imagine when Fuller gets a cell right next to Jared’s. Of course, the ABC news producers will be on the phone to Sheriff Dupnik: “Hey, we told you to arrest the violent psycho guy, not the shooting victim! We can’t air this video noow, we are going to have to reshoot the whole Town Hall thing! You flatfoots were supposed to arrest the Tea Party guy! Stick to the script!”

Seeing 2012 From My Window said:
If God forbid he did something, I’d blame the media (and the shooter).

So why would you blame the media? Is it because you think inflammatory rhetoric can incite people to do bad things? Isn’t that strange?

Helix said:
“Hey, we told you to arrest the violent psycho guy, not the shooting victim! We can’t air this video noow, we are going to have to reshoot the whole Town Hall thing! You flatfoots were supposed to arrest the Tea Party guy! Stick to the script!”

hahahahaha!

Interesting posts and links. This man is looking unhinged himself. I hope he gets the help the shooter didn’t get. Interesting that the first high profile arrest in our new heightened security is a rabid tea party hater. The article Cecelia linked to said he stated he didn’t care about the shooter. He also said he joined her to “protect” her from the Tea party so when she was attacked and it wasn’t a tea party member he still can’t let go of his hatred.

I blame the opinion journalists at Mediaite for creating a climate of hatred towards Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Shoes on the other foot now. How’s it feel?

CosmosDan said:
So why would you blame the media? Is it because you think inflammatory rhetoric can incite people to do bad things? Isn’t that strange?

I don’t know of anyone who ever disputed that when there is direct causal link established.

Ajolily said:
The article Cecelia linked to said he stated he didn’t care about the shooter. He also said he joined her to “protect” her from the Tea party so when she was attacked and it wasn’t a tea party member he still can’t let go of his hatred.

Evidently, Fuller had gotten into such a heated argument with someone just BEFORE the Giffords meet and greet, It was so intense that they had to be pulled away from each other.

That other person was shot and killed by Loughner.

OxyCon said:
I blame the opinion journalists at Mediaite for creating a climate of hatred towards Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

Shoes on the other foot now. How’s it feel?

Well, the irony is that there’s a direct link between that, where there isn’t one between Loughner and Palin or the Tea Party.

You can talk about crosshairs on districts, and calling people socialists, but you can’t get more direct and inflammatory than — these people contributed to the reason that you were almost killed and eight other people were killed.

Cecelia said:
What’s really interesting is there is no proof that the Arizona killer ever saw the crosshairs map or ever followed any Tea Party rhetoric, etc.

However, there is a DIRECT link between media rhetoric blaming the Tea Party and Sara Palin to a man who went to a Town Meeting and told a Tea Party honcho, “You’re dead”.

Don’t worry, I am pretty sure that with a small twist of logic, the left can blame Sarah Palin somehow for Mr. Fuller’s actions and death threat. I mean, obviously Sarah Palin drove him to make this death threat along with FOX news biased reporting by taking unfair advantage of his weakened mental condition after being the unfortunate victim of Jared’s evil Glock.

Of course, those on the right will argue that Fuller has a full blown case of PDS, Palin Derangement Syndrome before the attack, but who knew it would lead to death threats.

Helix said:
Of course, those on the right will argue that Fuller has a full blown case of PDS, Palin Derangement Syndrome before the attack, but who knew it would lead to death threats.

And now he has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder to go with the PDS.

That’s too many disorders. Poor guy.

Sincerely.

Helix said:
Don’t worry, I am pretty sure that with a small twist of logic, the left can blame Sarah Palin somehow for Mr. Fuller’s actions and death threat.

BTW– the media meme won’t be that it was Palin’s fault. It willl be that it’s Trent Humphries’ just deserts.

Even now Tommy Christopher is writing the usual …tsk…tsk…however [insert name of conservative] did deserve it… column.

Cecelia said:
Evidently, Fuller had gotten into such a heated argument with someone just BEFORE the Giffords meet and greet, It was so intense that they had to be pulled away from each other. That other person was shot and killed by Loughner.

OK, I did not know but fill me in on how it applies if you can.

Ajolily said:
OK, I did not know but fill me in on how it applies if you can.

Applies to what?

Applies to his own behavior at this media town hall and his own mental illness.

Safe to say that map won’t come up on Amanpours show. Or anywhere else except Fox.

timzank said:
Safe to say that map won’t come up on Amanpours show. Or anywhere else except Fox

In addition to Tommy Christopher I have seen many explain it away.

They reason (or make up excuses) that cross hairs is indicative of a live target whereas Bulls Eyes only bring to mind target practice. It’s a false equivalency or so they seem to believe.

Those crazies out there are so nuanced that the Dem Bulls Eyes would be glossed over where SP’s Cross Hairs immediately fire up the blood lust for live prey.

I know, it sounds crazy but that’s there take on it.

Ajolily said:
Applies to his own behavior at this media town hall and his own mental illness.

He was a bit of a powder keg before, and now after a horrific nightmare he’s incredibly fragile.

I don’t think he’s mentally ill, but he is traumatized in a way most of us can’t imagine and I’m glad that he’s now getting help.

I blame this one on the liberal media for immediately jumping on the band wagon blaming the “heated rhetoric” of the right causing the shooting. They are the ones that gave that Sheriff credibility to start with and then milked it as far as it would go.

Grammie said:
Those crazies out there are so nuanced that the Dem Bulls Eyes would be glossed over where SP’s Cross Hairs immediately fire up the blood lust for live prey.

I know, it sounds crazy but that’s there take on it.

Translation: That crap doesn’t apply to us…

I love the map caption on the map too— “Behind Enemy Lines”…. “ripe targets for the Democrats”…

Thanks, I already got that and agree it is good he is getting help. But it sounds as if he was a bit off before as well. Don’t you all think that the media should leave some of these people alone after such horrific events? In this case it may have done some good as I am not sure he would have gotten the help he needs otherwise. But then again will the media please leave him alone now.

Ajolily said:
Thanks, I already got that and agree it is good he is getting help. But it sounds as if he was a bit off before as well. Don’t you all think that the media should leave some of these people alone after such horrific events? In this case it may have done some good as I am not sure he would have gotten the help he needs otherwise. But then again will the media please leave him alone now.

I just read something that might show you to be right about Fuller being mentally ill at some point.

Here’s an interview he did at a site about hypnosis (evidently an interest of his) where he says that his military related disability is a “non-physical” one.

http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller

Cecelia said:
Ha!

Cecelia said:
That’s hilarious!

timzank said:
Funny

Cecelia said:
hahahahaha!

At least you guys are having a good time…

Ajolily said:
n this case it may have done some good as I am not sure he would have gotten the help he needs otherwise. But then again will the media please leave him alone now.

I’d like to hear more about his connection to Giffords and what exactly he was doing and saying before the shooting.

He considered himself to be Giffords’ body guard, in a sense. He thought he was there to forstall any Tea Party folks, and that’s interesting.

He had gotten into at least one heated altercation at a public meeting.

It’ll be interesting to see what the Gifford people thought about him and how much of fixture he was with them..

Nacho said:
At least you guys are having a good time…</blockquote

We are.

Cecelia said:
I just read something that might show you to be right about Fuller being mentally ill at some point. Here’s an interview he did at a site about hypnosis (evidently an interest of his) where he says that his military related disability is a “non-physical” one. http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller

Well we may hear more later but for now he is locked up and getting an evaluation by the experts. Good enough for me.

Cecelia said:
I’d like to hear more about his connection to Giffords and what exactly he was doing and saying before the shooting. He considered himself to be Giffords’ body guard, in a sense. He thought he was there to forstall any Tea Party folks, and that’s interesting. He had gotten into at least one heated altercation at a public meeting. It’ll be interesting to see what the Gifford people thought about him and how much of fixture he was with them..

Oh! now I get what your first post to me was saying. Well I hope it is not necessary to hound the Giffords or him while they are still so traumatized. Suffice it to say that blaming the Tea Party, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck or any others from the right backfired and this new development is another nail in that coffin.

Cecelia said:
I just read something that might show you to be right about Fuller being mentally ill at some point.

Here’s an interview he did at a site about hypnosis (evidently an interest of his) where he says that his military related disability is a “non-physical” one.

http://www.hypnothoughts.com/profile/JamesEricFuller

Nice find Cecelia! Also noticed the “non-drinker for one year” part in the profile. Along with the bit about “hostile voters” (Tea party folks?) A lot of use of the word “non” in the descriptions. Perhaps the hypnosis was an attempt to treat the “non-physical” condition?

I wonder what her excuse was? And she actually ran for office?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/15/cheryl-allen-charged-with_n_809596.html

perceptorii said:
And the Left’s self-induced destruction of their efforts to blame violence on Sarah Palin and the Tea Party is now complete.

Yeah right, who do you think America will sympathize with, the teabloggers or the guy with a bullet in his back?

You Righty’s better pray this story doesn’t go viral.

Cecelia said:
We are.

Indeed, no need to let this tragedy go to waste.

BFD said:
Yeah right, who do you think America will sympathize with, the teabloggers or the guy with a bullet in his back?

You Righty’s better pray this story doesn’t go viral.

You forgot to mention that he’s a veteran, BFD. And you forgot the death threat he just got arrested for issuing in public. People want to know that stuff.

Speaking of the veteran thing, this is interesting:

Began life as a computer operator, military service leading to non-physical disability, unable to resume career, left main stream and lived in small towns for a decade studying library books and piano

I wonder what a non-physical disability might be. And I hope J. Eric doesn’t own a gun.

You Righty’s better pray this story doesn’t go viral.

I want this guy on Oprah. I want him on The View. I want him to have every opportunity to explain himself to the American people. Maybe Mediate could even give him a guest blogger login! That would be terrific.

Pablo said:
I want this guy on Oprah. I want him on The View. I want him to have every opportunity to explain himself to the American people. Maybe Mediate could even give him a guest blogger login! That would be terrific.

Take this poll….

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/poll-was-sarah-palin-crosshair-imagery-targeting-gabrielle-giff/

Results so far…

http://imgur.com/iJ3M3

I don’t care about this guy, I care about Palin, and this whole incident did NOT do her any good.

On the contrary….

January 14, 2011 01:05 PM EST

“A new McClatchy-Marist poll shows President Barack Obama with a commanding lead over three of the top contenders for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination. Sarah Palin fared the worst, trailing Obama 56-30 percent in the latest nationwide poll.”

BFD said:
Take this poll….

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/10/poll-was-sarah-palin-crosshair-imagery-targeting-gabrielle-giff/

Results so far…

http://imgur.com/iJ3M3

Please note the fine print that says the poll’s not scientific although it does mirror her approval ratings before Tuscan.

Kird said:
Please note the fine print that says the poll’s not scientific

Goes w/o saying. Online poll. :)

Still, quite overwhelming.

BFD said:
Goes w/o saying. Online poll. :)

Still, quite overwhelming.

It fits the narrative.

BFD said:
poll shows President Barack Obama with a commanding lead over three of the top contenders for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination

It’s stunning, isn’t it? That half of America is so stupid (or rooting for communism to a lesser degree) that they’d vote for a pussy little wanker like Obama, who’s already shown himself to be clueless in economics and international affairs.

This chump thinks he can milk fifteen minutes because he’s a victim. He also thinks, because of that, there will be no consequences for his stupidity. He’s wrong.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out on This weed with Christianne on Sunday morning. I’m taking bets that Christianne does NOT give us the truth/fact about this guy; she does NOT tell the udience about his threat to the tea party, and that ABC does NOT show the full video. They will spike the story in order to maintain their “Sarah did it” meme. Indeed, they will probably show this guy claiming it’s Sarah’s fault and then refuse to give the full stroy to the few idiots who might tune in to watch Christianne.

lol…it sucks for you Righty’s when a victim who was shot twice blames Palin and Co. and then gets so unhinged about it he wants righteous vengeance.

It looks like, for better or worse (worse lol), Sarah is going to be dragged through the mud for a couple more days.

AND YOU CAN’T EVEN REALLY BLAME THE GUY CUZ HE WAS JUST SHOT TWICE LAST WEEK BUT I’M SURE YOU’LL TRY TO CRUCIFY HIM ANYWAY!!!!

BTW, even Jeb Bush now says in an new interview when asked about Palin (and others) ” they may want to be careful about the language they use”. Common sense really, but there is so little of that going around this blog.

This won’t surprise anyone who actually follows ABC and their direct attempts to link the shootings to Sarah:

ABC.com doesn’t even have this story up (as of 7:50am on Sunday Morning).

ABC intends to ignore or downplay this threat because it doesn’t fit their “It’s Sarah’s fault” storyline.

Disgusting, but ever-so-typical for Stephy, Christianne, Dianne, et al.

I saw the interview too BFD. Interesting – Jeb also said that Sarah had every right to say what she said regarding the outrageous attacks on her and the media (ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNNNYTIMESETAL) tried to lay the blame on her and directly tried to tie her to the murders. Blood libel indeed.

Yes, the rhetoric should be modified to a degree – but modified on both sides. This total BS that the media is playing now and saying it’s just the right wing when you lefties have issues “targets” and “behind enemy lines” graphics and rhetoric as well. Just becuase ABCCBSNBCMSNBCCNNNYTIMESETAL ignore the leftwing rhetoric doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

It did and the public is a hell of a lot smarter than the stupid liberal media hack liars like katie, Dianne, Stephy, and Brian, as well as the loon and the spitter and cooper and Candy.

TfT said:
Jeb also said that Sarah had every right to say what she said regarding the outrageous attacks on her and the media

Yep, he did. Like most other people he is saying she is not responsible for the shooter but she is responsible for her rhetoric, which should have been more thoughtful. Even Pawlenty said “It wouldn’t have been my style to put the crosshairs on there” and “There is a line there as it relates to basic civility, decency and respect and not trying to invoke violence,”

I don’t think you realize how this message, repeated over and over and over all week, by both sides, has damaged her brand.

In other words, Sarah Palin has not so much become a scapegoat for the Tuscon massacre as she has for everything that is ugly about our recent political discourse.

Sucks for her..

BFD said:
In other words, Sarah Palin has not so much become a scapegoat for the Tuscon massacre as she has for everything that is ugly about our recent political discourse.

Sucks for her..

Nah. Sucks for Democrats. Palin’s hated by Liberals because she has the “balls” to stand up for America and encourage Americans to open our eyes to the devastation of our nation at the hands of the anti-American Left.. There’s no other reason for the rage whe fires-up in Leftists.

The Democrat rhetoric since the shootings last week have begun to stir the violence and homicidal tendencies in the Dims who don’t think for themselves but obey every directive given them by their “thinkers” who’ve instructed them to hate. This article serves as undeniable proof of it.

Davo said:
anti-American Left

A true Palin-ite. lolol

BFD said:
AND YOU CAN’T EVEN REALLY BLAME THE GUY CUZ HE WAS JUST SHOT TWICE LAST WEEK BUT I’M SURE YOU’LL TRY TO CRUCIFY HIM ANYWAY!!!!

I’m checking and checking, BFD, but it doesn’t look like we arrested him and ordered a psych eval. That appears to have been Sheriff Dipshit’s boys. I’m sure he’ll be happy to know that you’ve absolved him of all responsibility for his actions. If you could just let the Pima County Sheriff’s know, I’m sure Fuller will appreciate it.

And I’m waiting for Sheriff “Dumbass” to call a press conference to blame left-wing hate rhetoric for this guy’s act. I mean, afterall, there can be absoultely no other explaination for his behavior, right?

If I’m not mistaken, this guy is the same guy who went to Jared’s house to apologize to Jared’s parents for the “bad things” he said about Jared after the shootings.

Nacho said:
Cecelia said:
We are.

Indeed, no need to let this tragedy go to waste.

Absolutely, Irony and satire can be found in any tragedy. It’s how people cope.

We choose laughter, you choose cheap shots. To each his own.

It is Sarah Palin that is causing all the incivility coming from the Left. Eric Fuller should sue Palin for causing his PTSD and his PDS.

Davo said:
The Democrat rhetoric since the shootings last week have begun to stir the violence and homicidal tendencies in the Dims who don’t think for themselves but obey every directive given them by their “thinkers” who’ve instructed them to hate.

Bingo. All week, liberals have been told to hate conservatives. To conservatives, politics is something that needs to be done, a distraction that needs our attention so that weirdos don’t assume control. To liberals, it’s much more personal, it always has been. Those people are truly hateful beings, hatred of conservatives is normal to them, that’s why they don’t find it at all peculiar that their own rhetoric is just plain personal. Of course conservatives need to die, what’s the big deal?

Imagine for just a moment that, one week after this shooting, some local Republican had approached a prominent democrat, taken a photo, and proclaimed, “you’re dead”. I would have seen the video multiple times on multiple news channels by now.

Anyway, it’s pretty clear that the liberals are now intent on taking this to the next level, I wondered when this would happen. When the Soviet Union broke up, I thought that it was just a matter of time, and it appears I was correct. Large nations just can’t exist. If the federal government stayed out of things and allowed the states to exist as per The Constitution, it would be different.

BFD said:
Yeah right, who do you think America will sympathize with, the teabloggers or the guy with a bullet in his back?

You Righty’s better pray this story doesn’t go viral.

Well, is that the point? Who sympathizes with whom?

It’s more than a little interesting to see people make a stand against inflammatory rhetoric on the moral ground that it’s dangerous, and then reduce everything to a matter of political expediency when the threat is towards a conservative.

You may have tried Palin and Humphries in the court of your own mind and found the guilty of influencing Loughner (without a shred of proof), but at BEST the connection is oblique rather than direct.

To suggest that death threats are their just desert means you’ve attributed something to them that is way beyond any factual evidence. And it also means that your concern for inflammatory rhetoric that inspires to violence, goes about as far your party affiliation.

Mr.Papshmer said:
Anyway, it’s pretty clear that the liberals are now intent on taking this to the next level, I wondered when this would happen.

That’s the scary part. Liberals simply cannot be defeated in an election without thinking they’ve been somehow cheated out of what’s supposed to be “rightfully” theirs………….a position of rule over a populace too incompetent to make decisions for themselves.

I wonder is this whole shooting thing and follow-up hate-speech by Liberals was planned from the start. When Liberals have nothing but a terrible track record on the books, they must find other ways to diminish their opponents. With Liberals, there’s just no limit to their evil.

BFD said:
lol…it sucks for you Righty’s when a victim who was shot twice blames Palin and Co. and then gets so unhinged about it he wants righteous vengeance.

What’s frightening to me is that this is utterly a done deal in your mind.

There’s no evidence connecting Loughner to any ideology or any party, let alone to seeing a crosshairs map or following the Tea Party, yet both Palin and Humphries are utterly guilty to you, to the point that death threats against one of them are just deserts.

Not a shred of doubt. It’s as though they had pulled the trigger themselves.

It’s not partisanship, it’s utter irrationality.

Cecelia said:
What’s frightening to me is that this is utterly a done deal in your mind.

His inbox is filled with mailing list stuff telling him what to think, what to type, and how to be outraged at Palin.

Cecelia said:
What’s frightening to me is that this is utterly a done deal in your mind.

There’s no evidence connecting Loughner to any ideology or any party, let alone to seeing a crosshairs map or following the Tea Party, yet both Palin and Humphries are utterly guilty to you, to the point that death threats against one of them are just deserts.

Not a shred of doubt. It’s as though they had pulled the trigger themselves.

It’s not partisanship, it’s utter irrationality.

I think you’re missing his point. He’s not saying there is a clear connection at all.

Why am I not shocked that ABC didn’t mention the threats to Beck or Palin in their coverage to this story? Seriously – our media is atrocious.

Can’t see that Palin had anything whatsoever to do with the incident. However anything that puts her on the back foot is a bonus as far as I’m concerned!
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Comforting to know that BFD believes ‘righteous vengeance’ can be taken out on someone, based on hearsay.

Beermatman said:
Can’t see that Palin had anything whatsoever to do with the incident. However anything that puts her on the back foot is a bonus as far as I’m concerned!

You’re a disease. Exploiting death for political purposes is sick. In the upcoming civil war, I can only hope that you’re one of the first to go.

Mr.Papshmer said:
You’re a disease. Exploiting death for political purposes is sick. In the upcoming civil war, I can only hope that you’re one of the first to go.

May I suggest, as gently as I can, that you’re talking in a way that is very frightening. That you need a vacation from this.

CosmosDan said:
I think you’re missing his point. He’s not saying there is a clear connection at all.

Well, then he’s suggesting that a “clear connection” doesn’t matter, as long as there’s an apocryphal in the public mind.

That’s even more dubious.

BFD said:
Yep, he did. Like most other people he is saying she is not responsible for the shooter but she is responsible for her rhetoric, which should have been more thoughtful. Even Pawlenty said “It wouldn’t have been my style to put the crosshairs on there” and “There is a line there as it relates to basic civility, decency and respect and not trying to invoke violence,” I don’t think you realize how this message, repeated over and over and over all week, by both sides, has damaged her brand.

The “message” that has been repeated “over and over and over” again all week, has been that Conservatives (Limbaugh, Palin, et al), “Toxic Rhetoric”, etc. (pick one or more, it doesn’t matter to the Left, as long as they can PIN Loughner’s actions on SOMEONE or SOMETHING from the Right) are responsible for Loughner’s actions – even faced with NO EVIDENCE to substantiate those assertions.

I guess (by the “standards” of The Left), we should blame EVERYONE who MADE those assertions for Eric Fullers’ threat.

Mark Ward said:
I guess (by the “standards” of The Left), we should blame EVERYONE who MADE those assertions for Eric Fullers’ threat.

Actually, I think there’s a direct connection between Fuller’s threat and the media blame game, in a way there is not between Palin, Humphries and Loughner.

[According to sheriff’s deputies at the scene, Fuller took a photo of Humphries and said, “You’re Dead.”]

So when are they going to arrest Bill O’Reilly? O’Reilly showed a clip of Tom Brokaw on Morning Joe the other morning saying that, given Arizona’s concealed weapons laws, he would be worried to go into a restaurant or bar there.

O’Reilly, with a big smile on his face, mocked and them mimicked what it would be like for Brokaw to be shot and killed.

“Oh, that’s right Tom. So, you’re sitting there eating your can of peas, and somebody comes over, ‘Oh, you’re Tom Brokaw!’ BAM!”

Isn’t that virtually the same thing?

When, oh, when will people THINK before they speak?

Why do the liberals of America blame everyone in America for violence but “themselves”?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/32194

…….and just another recent diatribe by a leftist:

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/32196

Here we have the profile of this leftwing whack-o who was “committed” for threatening the Tea Party:

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/01/j-eric-fullers-profile-a-few-answers-and-many-questions/#

brooksider926 said:
“Oh, that’s right Tom. So, you’re sitting there eating your can of peas, and somebody comes over, ‘Oh, you’re Tom Brokaw!’ BAM!”

Isn’t that virtually the same thing?

You’re as stupid as they come, homes. This is what I mean about pos leftists, they’re like muzlims. They feel at ease to be the worst humanity has to offer, yet get all whiny and pms if they think that they can make political points, playing on the fact that most normal people are good. Tell you what people, they hate you, and it’s time to hate them back.

Cecelia said:
Well, then he’s suggesting that a “clear connection” doesn’t matter, as long as there’s an apocryphal in the public mind.

That’s even more dubious.

It’s association and perception and it happens all the time and is an integral part of politics. It’s very plain to see in election cycles in the adds. You may disagree with the degree in this particular event but what he’s describing is real.

This Fuller whacko was hardly “shot in the back,” as Martel dramatically avers, but merely grazed. I guess his 15 minutes of fame meant he could reveal his vicious brutal nature. Can you imagine if this perverted leftist paraphiliac had been a Tea Party activist? It would have been on the NTY’s front page above the fold. As it is, the lamestream media and its lemmings in the leftist blogosphere are shutting up about this.

Their dishonesty goes to the very marrow of every bone in their sick, deformed, bent and twisted minds and bodies. The left is a tissue of lies and it seeks to cover up Obummer’s crimes against the Constitution while attacking the Constitution and everyone who wants to defend it.

Since 80% of the country is either conservative or god-fearing independent, the lemmings don’t have long and if the NYT keeps hemorrhaging paid circ, even that Mexican trillionaire won’t want to bail out Pinch and his band of 40 liars.

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