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Bill Maher: Tea Partiers ‘Nostalgic For An Era When Blacks Were Invisible’

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Is the national conversation about Tea Partiers currently trending toward a conversation about racism? Last week’s big NYT/CBS poll that revealed Tea Partiers to be older, mostly white, and well-educated looks to have turned a lot of the media’s assumptions about the movement on their head…at least the well-educated part. During a panel on his show the other night Bill Maher concluded that well-educated did not necessarily mean well-informed. “Not ignorant but plainly misinformed. Stubbornly misinformed. They have named themselves after a tax revolt and they have no idea what’s going on with taxes.”

Meanwhile, Maher’s guests, which included New Yorker editor David Remnick and journalist Laura Flanders, appeared to concur with Frank Rich’s take on what’s motivating the movement, concluding from the poll results that the Partiers are actually not that upset about government involvement or taxing (they like their medicare; social security), but are worried and angry that we have a black president.

Says Flanders: “All this time we’ve been told to believe that they were beleaguered poor white people worried about taxes, now we come to find out they’re actually quite well-to-do white people, worried about a black president.”

Says Remnick: What concerns me is the phrase ‘Take Back Our Country.’ When I hear the phrase ‘we want our country back’ I’m afraid that’s coded language.

Counters Maher: Let’s not say they’re racist, let’s say they’re nostalgic for an era where blacks were invisible.

Remick does point out that it’s not fair to paint the Tea Party as a whole as racist, or ignorant of the issues, but that the worst aspects of the party are represented by its leaders, namely Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Michelle Bachmann. As pointed out by Norah O’Donnell during a Chris Matthews appearance yesterday, Palin starts all of her appearances by asking the crowd to help her ‘take back our country.’ And regular watchers of Glenn Beck will know that he spends a not little amount of time glorifying the old days when things were right in America (frequently with the help of a 1950′s TV set). Video of the exchange below. The Tea Party language conversation begins about the 1:30 mark.

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  • timzank

    “Says Remnick: What concerns me is the phrase ‘Take Back Our Country.’ When I hear the phrase ‘we want our country back’ I’m afraid that’s coded language. ”

    Was he concerned when that phrase was p[opular in 2006?

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060731/take_back_our_country

    Is he stupid enough to think that phrase was just invented this year?

    Frickin morons.

  • timzank

    2003: An Open Letter to America: It’s Time to Take Back Our Country
    by John & Elaine Mellencamp

    http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1022-13.htm

  • timzank

    You Have the Power: How to Take Back Our Country and Restore Democracy in America (Hardcover)
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  • timzank

    Take Back Our Country – Phase 2008

    http://www.actblue.com/page/takebackin08

  • The Real Royal King

    Maher and Panel may have a point here. I remember Archie Bunker once saying that we didn’t know we had African-Americans (his term was less correct) until Eleanor Roosevelt discovered them. I suppose that is more benign than what we often see.

    I do think there are a large number of Americans, certainly not a majority, who have profound problems with an African-American president. Of this group, I tend to think a good number are Tea Partiers. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain the constant misstatements about tax increases, provisions of HCR, missle defense, &c, and the repeated calls to arms.

  • timzank
  • The Real Royal King

    Perhaps, the concern is not so much the phrase as the phrase coupled with an unstable, volatile, heavily armed group of people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Boyer/602168764 John Boyer

    Why does Mediaite feel the need to post every time Bill Maher engages in baseless racebaiting?

  • Penguin60

    Unstable? Armed? I was at a TEA party this weekend, didn’t see anything even remotely close to that. How many detractors get their opinion from LSDNBC? Go to one and make your own judgement. How many TEA PArty events do you think the clown prince of HBO has gone to?
    Try as they might the left is losing the battle of smear, even with the help of most of the media.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ruth-Gretzinger/596613915 Ruth Gretzinger

    does anybody outside the echo chamber even listen to Maher anymore? and don’t these maroons know that the race card thing isn’t really working anymore, if it ever did?

    the only people who are buying this are already drunk on the koolaid.

  • SteveMG

    Do liberals/progressives really believe that if President Obama was white that this movement wouldn’t exist? That it’s mostly motivated by racism or racial fears?

    Really?

    I’m not a fan of populist movements – right, left or center – and some of the language from segments of this movement are grossly irresponsible even if no violence unintentionally ensues. Let’s face it: there are far right elements in this country that have easy access to guns. Harsh rhetoric may – may – contribute to their kookiness (note: there are no comparable groups on the left with such access and familiarity with weapons).

    But to characterize this entire movement the way many on the left have is frankly bizarre.

  • Dave Richards

    Maher does what he does because he is unable to do anything else. Much like most liberals politicians and liberal college professors.

  • TylerDurden

    maher, just another self-hating Jew and white person.

  • TylerDurden

    I like how every word is suddenly “coded” to liberals. BHO called himself a community organizer. Suddenly, when the Republicans used the word , “community organizer” became a coded word. When McCain referred to BHO as “that one”, suddenly “that one” became an historical derogatory phase for black people. HP actually had black shills saying, “I remember walking across the street, hearing a white person referring to me as “that one.”

    LMAO

    Next code words- Democrat, liberal,President, protest,rally, Tea Party, taxes,spending,etc.

  • The Real Royal King

    SteveMG says:
    April 19, 2010 at 12:42 pm

    Do liberals/progressives really believe that if President Obama was white that this movement wouldn’t exist? That it’s mostly motivated by racism or racial fears?

    Pretty much. It’s hard to explain the intensity of the feeling otherwise. Hatred of large government, when W created the largest bureaucracy in the nation’s history (Homeland Security)? Opposition to tax increases when taxes have not gone up and most Americans are receiving record tax refunds? These may be deeply felt by some tea partiers, but, no, they were not the cause for the group, merely the occasion. The cause is evident.

    ——

    “that one”

    You seem to have mixed things up a point here, Tyler. When Gramps said that at the debate and pointed at then Candidate Obama, the reaction was because of the rudeness of speaking to someone, anyone, at a debate, in the third person, and the rudeness of pointing at anyone. I have a “That One” t-shirt from the campaign, and that was my reason for getting it.

  • TylerDurden

    I’m sure blacks will take solace in Bill’s remarks. In Bill’s dystopian world, blacks are incapable of doing anything for themselves and have to rely on the generosity of kind, white liberals like himself to save them. MG, blacks should bow down everyday and thank Bill for saving them.

  • The Real Royal King

    While we are talking about heavily-armed and dangerous people Don’t forget the McVeigh special tonight, 19 April, at 21:00 Hours, EST. Maddow is narrating.

  • Penguin60

    Somehow I knew you worked for MSNBC.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    The Real Royal King said…..
    “it is difficult to explain the constant misstatements about tax increases, provisions of HCR, missle defense, &c, and the repeated calls to arms.”

    LOL, is he kidding?

    RRK, How do you explain YOUR constant misstatements about everything? Are you claiming there are NO tax increases in Obamacare? Are you claiming there are no future tax increases coming? Are you claiming that everyone will be able to keep their doctor? What lies are you telling about missle defense? What repeated call to arms?

  • dhg

    I’m nostalgic for an era when stand up comedians posing as wannabe political commentators don’t use racism as an explanation for an angry America who is becoming tired of a government that wants to take over your life and use your money to do so.

    Maher uses catch words like race to draw attention to his act so he can make boat loads of money.

    The left uses catch words like racism to deflect from the real reasons and issues that are the basis if half the country’s anger,frustration and remorse for the party that was elected into control of the government and for the president who misled the electorate by using the word “change” to mean something completely different than how things are actually changing.

    Oh and let’s not forget that minorities are an almost 100% Democratic constituency and playing up to their fears and emotions is all in a day’s work for a career politician and their minions.

  • TylerDurden

    Yes, TRRK, the Tea Party exists in a vacuum doesn’t it?

    Let’s look at today’s Pew Research Results about how people feel about their government:

    http://people-press.org/report/606/trust-in-government
    April 18, 2010

    Distrust, Discontent, Anger and Partisan Rancor
    The People and Their Government

    Just 22% say they can trust the government in Washington almost always or most of the time, among the lowest measures in half a century.

    While job ratings for the Obama administration are mostly negative, they are much more positive than the ratings for Congress; 40% say the administration does an excellent or good job while just 17% say the same about Congress.

    Currently, 38% see the federal government’s personal impact as positive while slightly more (43%) see it as negative.

    In the current survey, 56% say they are frustrated with the federal government, 21% say they are angry and 19% say they are basically content. That’s 77% who are frustrated or angry.

    Over this period, a larger minority of the public also has come to view the federal government as a major threat to their personal freedom – 30% feel this way, up from 18% in a 2003 ABC News/Washington Post survey.

    And just 40% of Democrats have a favorable impression of the Democratic Congress – THE LOWEST POSITIVE RATING FOR CONGRESS EVER AMONG MEMBERS OF THE MAJORITY PARTY.

    Fully 74% think that the federal government does only a fair or poor job running its programs.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    RRK:
    _____
    Pretty much. It’s hard to explain the intensity of the feeling otherwise. Hatred of large government, when W created the largest bureaucracy in the nation’s history (Homeland Security)? Opposition to tax increases when taxes have not gone up and most Americans are receiving record tax refunds? These may be deeply felt by some tea partiers, but, no, they were not the cause for the group, merely the occasion. The cause is evident.
    _____

    This is idiotic.

    First, the same thing happened in 1994 with Bill Clinton. As a direct and proximate result of Hillarycare, the House of Representatives went Republican for the first time in more than 50 years. Until Bill Clinton, conventional wisdom had it that it was “demographically impossible” to have a Republican House.

    Second, wile many people complained about government spending under Bush (I was certainly among them), Bush’s spending pales in comparison to Obama. Obama added more to the federal deficit in his first MONTH in office than Bush did in his first TERM in office. According to Obama’s own budget, the federal deficit in his BEST year in office (assuming he serves 8 years) will be LARGER than Bush’s WORST year in office.

    Imagine yourself driving down the highway doing the speed limit at 55 mph. Someone passes you doing 65 mph. You don’t even notice it. A few minutes later someone else passes you doing 110 mph. You notice. In fact, you probably call the police. True, the guy doing 65 and the guy doing 110 were both breaking the law, but the guy doing 110 is a hell of a lot more dangerous. That’s why people are outraged at Obama. Look at his own budget and you’ll see he’s the maniac doing 110.

    Third, You are completely wrong about taxes. They have gone up, and are going up more. Obama broke his pledge about no new taxes on the bottom 95% in his first month in office when he signed into law a highly regressive cigarette tax in the SCHIP bill. Obama broke his pledge again by enacting more than $500 billion in taxes in the Obamacare bill. The Bush tax cuts are set to expire at the end of this year. Obama has always said that he won’t renew them for the top 5%. Now there is open talk in Congress that they wont be renewed for the bottom 95% either. (I predict here and now that they won’t be renewed for anyone, meaning that the lowest tax bracket will receive a 50% tax increase when the marginal rate goes from 10% back to the 15% that it was before Bush. Finally, members of the Obama administration are also openly talking about the need for a VAT tax (i.e., a highly regressive national sales tax on steroids).

    Fourth, RRK, your comment about “record tax refunds” is either the dumbest thing you’ve ever said on this website, or the most disingenuous (I’m guessing the latter). The size of your tax refund has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of tax you paid. It simply means that the tax tables have been calculated so that more people have overwithheld (meaning that they’ve given the US government an interest-free loan for the year).

    Fifth, here’s the inescapable truth: Even before Obamacare passed, the REAL national debt (unfunded future obligations reduced to current value consistent with Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) is large than the GDP of the entire world. The Great Society is a bankrupt society. It’s already happened. It’s a mathematical necessity. We had the .com bubble, and then the housing bubble, and next we will experience the entitlement bubble bursting. Some of us would prefer to back away from the precipice, rather than throwing the country over it. That has nothing whatsoever to do with Obama’s race. To insinuate otherwise is nothing more than a diversion from these inconvenient truths.

  • MDT

    To “The Real Royal King,”

    As a mere commoner, I find myself seeking, once again, the wisdom and clarity of you highness…

    Your quote:
    “…constant misstatements about tax increases, provisions of HCR, missle (missile) defense, &c, and the repeated calls to arms.” is evidence of racism on the part of the Tea Party Movement..?

    And

    “…an unstable, volatile, heavily armed group of people.” ???

    My questions:
    Have you ever actually been to a Tea Party rally..?

    You’re more likely to get errant red and blue sequins from Grammy’s really big rally hat tangled in your royal robes than shell casings.

    Now then, did you ever at an anti-war rally during the Bush years..? Bush dolls hanging in effigy, people tripping on all the swastikas, hate speech on signs and graffiti, KKK hoods all over, fires, overturned cars, smashed windows…ever see that kind of thing?

    That was indeed the Left in action.

    And there were a lot of those “rallies” but I don’t remember the same level of…consternation from the royal-like main stream press.

    I’ve witnessed both the left and the Tea Party people up close and personal.
    At the leftist rally, I hid behind a car as a fellow photographer watched his camera get smashed to pieces for no apparent reason but resulted in a big cheer from the mob. We were both stunned as we watched someone light a pile of “Cheney is a Nazi” etc, signs on fire and then dance around it.

    At a Tea Party rally, I bought lemonade from two kids raising money for overseas soldiers and watched some punk-looking teenagers help an older couple get across a busy intersection.

    Maybe country music is what really has your throne in a tizzy..?

  • The Real Royal King

    WHo knows. I don’t find most country music derivative and redundant, shrill and mind-numbing, as well.

  • The Real Royal King

    Please cite the legislation which raised taxes, AF. I don’t think you can, especially since you are using the conditional future tense.

  • The Real Royal King

    I notice Gordon Blower is the using the future tense as well.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    RRK:

    I did cite the legislation that raised taxes. Specifically, the SCHIP extension that passed less than 2 weeks after Obama was inaugurated, and the Obamacare bill. Both of these bills contained taxes on people who make less than $250,000 per year, thereby breaking Obama’s campaign pledge.

    http://reason.com/blog/2010/04/15/if-it-looks-like-a-duck-its-pr?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reason%2FHitandRun+%28Reason+Online+-+Hit+%26+Run+Blog%29

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Here’s a great video on Tea Party racism that all conservatives should watch.

    Liberals definitely should NOT watch it. If you’re a liberal and you click on the link by mistake, close your eyes, hold your hands over your ears, and shout, “No, no, no, no, no, no, I’m not listening” for 5 minutes and 4 seconds.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CLPhz0DHM&feature=player_embedded#!

  • felixw

    At some point, the left will need to deal with the actual issues raised by the tea parties. But they probably won’t figure out until after the shellacking in November.

  • SteveMG

    .’Pretty much. It’s hard to explain the intensity of the feeling otherwise’

    So, if Hillary Clinton or John Edwards or Biden had won the election and passed programs similar to Obama’s with the same projected deficits, almost none of these protests would have emerged?

    You actually believe that these debts of trillions of dollars would have not engendered a backlash? Recall the Perotistas?

    Anyway, if we’re going to compare Bush’s deficits to Obama’s then one must note that those liberals who were upset at Bush’s 450 billion annual deficits are conspicuously quiet about the 1.4 trillion deficits we now have. And projected to have for the next half decade. If not longer.

    What gives?

    Why the anger at Bush but not at Obama?

  • PatsyDaWuss

    The Real Royal King says:
    April 19, 2010 at 12:05 pm
    Maher and Panel may have a point here. I remember Archie Bunker once saying that we didn’t know we had African-Americans (his term was less correct) until Eleanor Roosevelt discovered them.

    Robert Stephenson, whether you write as your TRRK personality or your MRGLENBOVINE personality, you are still as wacky as ever. Only you could cite a ficticious television charactor portrayed by a liberal spouting dialog written by another liberal as evidence to support your stupid theory. The Austin sun must be searing your brain.

  • The Real Royal King

    It’s overcast with mist and 58˚/F .

  • atretrioeciii

    I don’t know if they all of you are racists, but the lack of any real number of any real minority group makes me think you people are yourselves a minority.

    Where were all of you during the bush phantom weapon scavenger hunt?

    Your sudden concern about something you paid NO attention to before, does make me doubt that even you don’t know what you are for or against. At the very least it makes you a hypocrite. So i can see why some people would think all teabaggers are racist. You waited until we elected our first African American President to actually start giving a damn about a country that was almost thrown into another great depression?

    Now republicans are having closed door meetings with wall street bankers and telling them to not be scared of staffers. While at the same time professing to be one of you. And not one of your so-called “grassroots” leaders says a word about it.

    So much for speaking for the people, I’ve never seen a quicker sell out.

  • TfT

    Is this kind of like Chrissy Matthews having a hissy fit when Rush used “REgime” wrt Team Obama (after Chrissy and most of his MSNBC co-propagandists had used it many times in re Bush?).

    LOL

    The lefties are losing it, big time.

  • The Real Royal King

    Where were all of you during the bush phantom weapon scavenger hunt?

    Therein lies the great mystery of our time.

  • valkyrie101

    Clearly the tea party is a coalition. Some members are in favor of killing abortion doctors, and of celebrating the killers, others would jusitify treason if they thought it in their personal interests, and end of the world gun nuts, they are with the tea party too. All have in common that they dislike the government. And the vast majority of people who are involved with the tea party are just regular patriotic Americans with the purest of intent.

  • The Real Royal King

    And the vast majority of people who are involved with the tea party are just regular patriotic Americans with the purest of intent.

    Perhaps a bit self-serving, but otherwise I agree with you.

  • PatsyDaWuss

    The Real Royal King says:
    April 19, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    Well thank God for the relief! The summer sun will continue to make you worse, so at least wear a hat. Drop the MrGlennBovine avatar too, its makes you seem foolish.

  • MDT

    “The Real Royal King” wrote:

    “Where were all of you during the bush phantom weapon scavenger hunt?”

    I was in Portland Oregon sending out 200 “Love Boxes For Our Troops” once a month with my racist, violent friends and switching my political affiliation to “Independent.”

    The people I know that bought the “weapons of mass destruction” line then, now say the weapon was Saddam and we watched his countrymen hang him.

  • ImNotBlue

    PatsyDaWuss says:
    April 19, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    The Real Royal King says:
    April 19, 2010 at 12:05 pm

    The Austin sun must be searing your brain.

    The Real Royal King says:
    April 19, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    It’s overcast with mist and 58˚/F .

    WAIT WAIT WAIT… A few hours ago, you said you were in the UK!!!

    What the heck, man?! Where are you?! In the UK or Texas?!

    atretrioeciii says:
    April 19, 2010 at 2:52 pm

    Where were all of you during the bush phantom weapon scavenger hunt?

    This is one of the greatest lies told about the Tea Party folks… yet it’s fairly common from the left. They seem to not hear when the Tea Party talks about Bush, complains about the Republican spending, or explains the “then versus now.” It’s willful ignorance form the left… but that’s nothing new.

    The answer is, that while spending was overboard under Bush, it was nothing compared to what it was now. They were upset under the Bush terms, however it was only after the government started bailing out Wall Street, that folks hit their boiling point and became annoyed enough to demonstrate.

    This is the same as someone asking a firefighter, “Where were you when my house fire began?”

    “Well, at the point where you were setting a napkin on fire, it wasn’t serious enough for us to mobilize!” is the answer.

    It’s not race, it’s continued bad habit. Of course, when the left was protesting “spending” for Bush, things were great. However, when Obama came into office and continued spending, those protests stopped. So I guess the left wasn’t objecting to spending (despite what they said at the time), perhaps it’s was race…

  • TylerDurden

    Hey maher, MSNBC, the network of hate, got bitch slapped at the recent Tea Party rally.

    MSNBC reporter asks black person question of black tea party member and surely doesn’t like his answer.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Eib2di9bq4

  • The Real Royal King

    http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/03772.html

    I never said I was in Austin. Patsy did. He is often wrong.

  • The Real Royal King

    http://www.wunderground.com/US/TX/Austin.html

    Interesting. Not that different.

  • The Real Royal King

    I applaud your service, MDT.

    W and Dick, Connie and Donnie weren’t prepared for the casualties we sustained (or the fatalities) and our military medical services were badly underfunded and over-stretched. My wife and I, both huge opponents of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq, spent a great deal of time assembling recuperation and rehabilitation supplies and helping coordinate and secure funding for travel and lodging for military families. It was such a great blessing for both of us to be able to do this. We volunteered with so many wonderful people, as well. I really love those moments of time when we Americans come together. We can accomplish so much.

    Thanks again, for your service.

  • The Real Royal King

    By the way, we ought to thank Jeff Merrill for his service, as well. He attended many welcome home parties.

  • PatsyDaWuss

    Robert Stephenson – you have such an obsession with Jeff Merrill, you and your fellow goons John T. Brown and Scott Heckman have frequently posted a link to a photo of someone you claim is Merrill, with a horse. That horse is named Royal King. Why are you so obsessed with that horse? Why under your guise of MrGlennBovineKoldys do you become so nasty?

  • PatsyDaWuss

    TRRK – are you claiming you don’t live in Austin or are you claiming that you don’t live in Austin now?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ln-Smithee/100000022977772 L.n. Smithee

    atretrioeciii wrote:

    I don’t know if they all of you are racists, but the lack of any real number of any real minority group makes me think you people are yourselves a minority.

    As a black man who detected early on that Obama was an ideologue despite his rhetoric,

    Where were all of you during the bush phantom weapon scavenger hunt?

    Ignoring for the moment that such a statement is a non sequitur: Obama sent thousands more to Afghanistan and hasn’t closed Guantanamo like he promised. Where are the thousands who were protesting those things NOW? Huh?

    You waited until we elected our first African American President to actually start giving a damn about a country that was almost thrown into another great depression?

    You’re clearly confused. If “the country is almost thrown into another great depression,” that’s precisely the time to give a damn! ESPECIALLY if the guy who’s supposed to be getting us OUT of it is proposing policies that will make things WORSE!

  • TylerDurden

    atretrioeciii wrote:

    I don’t know if they all of you are racists, but the lack of any real number of any real minority group makes me think you people are yourselves a minority.”

    Then why are you and the MSM soooooooooooooooo afraid of the TP people? You would not talk 24/7 about a unimportant, meager movement, now would ya? You wouldn’t send out your libby attack dogs after them.

    So you just contradicted your entire proposition.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ln-Smithee/100000022977772 L.n. Smithee

    As I was trying to say before my fingers betrayed me….

    As a black man who detected early on that Obama was an ideologue despite his rhetoric, I can tell you that most American-born blacks (especially Democrats) are willing to give another black person the benefit of the doubt even when s/he hasn’t earned it or it’s just plain illogical. Cases in point: There are still black people who believe O.J. Simpson didn’t murder two people and/or think it’s absolutely impossible that Michael Jackson could be a pedophile.

    Any objective judgment of the Obama Administration thusfar would be that he’s flailing away for some sort of solution that will ease pain in the short term that at the same time keeps his ultimate long-term redistributive big-government vision in place. Clinton got wise when he discovered he couldn’t drag the public to his ideal vision of government, and compromised with Newt Gingrich and the GOP. That was a good thing for the country. But there’s no compromise in Obama. His actions speak louder than his words, and that’s why people are reacting the way they are.

    Liberal blacks, though, will be slower to acknowledge reality because of their loyalty to him as a “brother.”

  • valkyrie101

    Most blacks are liberal. Obama is liberal. It is that simple. No big mind bender. Obama is not Alan Keyes.

  • http://www.uselessbeauty.com Vidiot

    TRRK, I’d watch it with the Weather Underground links if I were you. The reading-comprehension-impaired here may think you’re Bill Ayers or something.

  • TylerDurden

    Laura Ingraham taking on a black racist NYTs reporter who called a Tea Party a “Minstrel Show.”

    Laura Ingraham on Monday took New York Times columnist Charles Blow to task for calling last Thursday’s Dallas Tea Party a minstrel show.

    In his column published Saturday, Blow said of the tax day gathering he witnessed in the Lone Star State:

    Thursday night I saw a political minstrel show devised for the entertainment of those on the rim of obliviousness and for those engaged in the subterfuge of intolerance. I was not amused.

    LAURA INGRAHAM, HOST: So, what was the worst display of overt racism that you witnessed?

    CHARLES BLOW, NEW YORK TIMES: I didn’t say I had witnessed any overt…

    INGRAHAM: You called it a minstrel show, Charles. Those are kind of loaded terms, don’t you think?

    BLOW: Did I say that I had witnessed any overt racism at…

    INGRAHAM: What’s a minstrel, what’s a minstrel show?

    BLOW: What is racism to you, Laura?

    INGRAHAM: No, the other way around where racism is someone…

    BLOW: What is racism to you, Laura?

    INGRAHAM: You know what I think is racism? I think racism is someone who judges another person based on the color of his or her skin without knowing anything about the individual, without talking to the individual, without interviewing the individual, without having a conversation with the individual.

    From here, Blow for some reason moved on to Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele’s interview with GQ magazine. Ingraham was having none of it:

    INGRAHAM: Why are we on GQ magazine? Why aren’t we on the Tea Party. I’m interested in how you came to the conclusion that this was a minstrel show and you’re avoiding the topic by going to a Michael Steele interview. Why?

    BLOW: Because you’re trying to pretend that racism does not exist, and…

    INGRAHAM: Did I say that? When did I say that?

    BLOW: Did I say that I saw any racism, overt racism at the conference? That’s not what I, did I write that? Did you read that somewhere? Or are you making that up?

    INGRAHAM: “Thursday night I saw a political minstrel show devised for the entertainment of those on the rim of obliviousness…” Now, I like the sentence because it’s well-written, but what I don’t understand is what is an acceptable minstrel show then, a non-racist minstrel show?

    BLOW: That is, that is a ridiculous question? What does that even mean?

    INGRAHAM: Actually it’s a, actually it’s a good question, and it points out the absurdity of your column, because you would have written this column regardless of what you saw.

    BLOW: You’re really a, are you serious? Is that a real question?

    INGRAHAM: So, in other words you can’t answer the question.

    BLOW: Is that a real question?

    INGRAHAM: You said you’re not describing this as overtly racist. I quoted your column back to you, and your response is to say, “Is that really a question?” I don’t, we had you on because I actually was interested to hear why you came away from this column, this event, as calling it a minstrel show. And you can’t answer that question which I find disturbing for a New York Times columnist.

    Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2010/04/19/laura-ingraham-rips-nyt-columnist-calling-dallas-tea-party-minstrel-s#ixzz0la0xEYl1

  • PatsyDaWuss

    Vidiot says:
    April 19, 2010 at 4:30 pm
    TRRK, I’d watch it with the Weather Underground links if I were you. The reading-comprehension-impaired here may think you’re Bill Ayers or something.
    ++++

    No, we dont think hes Bill Ayers, we know he is Robert Stephenson.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    News Flash………….News Alert………

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJrJoxi-7FQ

    Obama is BLACK.

  • TylerDurden

    Hey BHO: On that Cap & Trade? Look at what the LA Times wrote today about your Global Warming:

    Why cleaner air could speed global warming

    Aerosol pollution, which is now on the downswing, has helped keep the planet cool by blocking sunlight. Tackling another pollutant, soot, might buy Earth some time.

    By Eli Kintisch

    April 18, 2010

    You’re likely to hear a chorus of dire warnings as we approach Earth Day, but there’s a serious shortage few pundits are talking about: air pollution. That’s right, the world is running short on air pollution, and if we continue to cut back on smoke pouring forth from industrial smokestacks, the increase in global warming could be profound.

  • Penguin60

    Where were all of you during the bush phantom weapon scavenger hunt?

    Can’t remember, what was Congress doing?

  • PortTabacco

    I would love to live in an era where Bill Maher was working in a Gas Station and not on the air.
    How wonderful that would be.

  • valkyrie101

    Maher is just a left version of Beck.

  • ImNotBlue

    The Real Royal King says:
    April 19, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Yes, but you’ve also said you’re in Texas… and I’ve read that. Weren’t you volunteering out in the barrio or something the other day? Something here isn’t making a lot of sense.

    Vidiot says:
    April 19, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    TRRK, I’d watch it with the Weather Underground links if I were you. The reading-comprehension-impaired here may think you’re Bill Ayers or something.

    Hahaha! A Bill Ayers joke! Hahaha! See… it’s funny because he’s an American terrorist.

    Wait…

  • http://www.uselessbeauty.com Vidiot

    what was it I said about reading-comprehension-impaired people here?

    Wait…

  • PatsyDaWuss

    ImNotBlue says:
    April 19, 2010 at 5:55 pm
    The Real Royal King says:
    April 19, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    Yes, but you’ve also said you’re in Texas… and I’ve read that.

    Robert is from Austin, that is true.

  • felixw

    How about a national day of honesty in which the media reports the real views of the tea party and those views as distorted by kool-aid drinkers like Bill Maher?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Let’s see if right winged math majors like Anonymous Finch and Steve can work with me here.

    What we’re taking IN:

    “Estimated receipts for fiscal year 2010 are $2.381 trillion, an estimated decrease of 11% from 2009.

    * $1.061 trillion – Individual income taxes
    * $940 billion – Social Security and other payroll tax
    * $222 billion – Corporation income taxes
    * $77 billion – Excise taxes
    * $23 billion – Customs duties
    * $20 billion – Estate and gift taxes
    * $22 billion – Deposits of earnings
    * $16 billion – Other”

    And here’s just the MANDATORY spending:

    ” * Mandatory spending: $2.184 trillion (+15.6%)
    o $695 billion (+4.9%) – Social Security
    o $453 billion (+6.6%) – Medicare
    o $290 billion (+12.0%) – Medicaid
    o $0 billion (−100%) – Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
    o $0 billion (−100%) – Financial stabilization efforts
    o $11 billion (+275%) – Potential disaster costs
    o $571 billion (−15.2%) – Other mandatory programs
    o $164 billion (+18.0%) – Interest on National Debt”

    OK…get out your abaccus:

    That leaves around $197 Billion dollars for Discretionary spending before you cause a deficit, which means if you want to talk about the Defense Budget/ 2 wars in the Middle East? ($663.7 billion (+12.7%) – Department of Defense (including Overseas Contingency Operations) You know? The War on Terror?

    We’re ALREADY in the hole:
    $466.7 BILLION before we’ve even begun to talk about any of the OTHER Departments, such as Transportation, Health and Human Services, Energy, Commerce, etc. There’s your deficit.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget

    Maybe, my all-of-a-sudden-tax-conscious-friends, we should start noticing the glaring, underlined fact that the Government is taking in LESS MONEY.

    The highest tax rate is 36%. Obama is going to let the Bush Tax cut expire and it will go back to 39%. Nixon and Ford had it at over 70%. Eisenhower had it at 92%. That means RICH people (Tea Partyers?) are haven’t had it this good for DECADES.

    Also, according to the Tax Policy Research center, Corporations are doing FABULOUSLY, while the burden has been shifted to the worker:

    “The share of revenue coming from the corporate income tax dropped from about one-third in the early 1950s to less than one-sixth in 2008. In contrast, payroll taxes provided more than one-third of revenue in 2008, compared with just one-tenth in the early 1950s.”

    Who do you right wingers think you’re fooling? You’re entitled to your own OPINIONS, however misguided. You are NOT entitled to your own MATH.

    –Cobra

  • Ted

    Maher once again, by just speaking the truth manages to get tea-bagging panties in a bunch; I love it.

    At any rate, the tea-bag movement has just enabled the lunatic fringe that is always crawling in the gutter, just beneath the surface to become somewhat legit. So now you have tea-baggers who are proud racists and grateful for their stupid. And it seems that there are a few tea-baggers here that have gone back for seconds…and thirds and are just plain gluttons for stupid.

    Bon appetit!!

  • victor the crab

    God, but the stupid coming from the right wing whackadoodles here burns!

  • Munch

    Poor Cobra:

    BHO’s record: 4.1 million jobs lost in 12 months, record foreclosures, 9.7% unemployment, 3x the deficit in 12 months, 24k more on unemployment in March, 2010.

    Obama Presides Over Most Jobs Lost Since 1940
    By Julia A. Seymour
    Business & Media Institute
    1/8/2010 11:03:00 AM

    Unemployment shot up in 2009 from 7.7 percent in January to 10.1 percent in October before settling at 10 percent in December. Behind those percentages were more than 4.1 million people who lost their jobs during the year. According to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, that’s the most job losses in a year since 1940. (BLS could only provide data from 1940-2009)

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703906204575027181656362948.html

    As for the deficit, CBO shows that over the first three years of the Obama Presidency, 2009-2011, the federal government will borrow an estimated $3.7 trillion. That is more than the entire accumulated national debt for the first 225 years of U.S. history. By 2019, the interest payments on this debt will be larger than the budget for education, roads and all other nondefense discretionary spending.

    http://articles.sfgate.com/2010-02-02/news/17842521_1_tax-cuts-house-republicans-head-of-tax-policy

    Deficit climbs to record under Obama’s budget

    $3.8 trillion budget: Jobs take priority; reaction swift
    February 02, 2010|By Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

    Washington — President Obama’s $3.8 trillion budget blueprint for next year sets a new deficit record of $1.56 trillion, includes a big jobs program and rolls back Bush-era tax cuts for high-income Americans.

    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Friday, April 16, 2010
    Overall, 47% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove.
    April 16, 2010
    Voters Currently Divided on Second Obama Term
    Just under half say he deserves re-election
    by Jeffrey M. Jones
    PRINCETON, NJ — Currently, 46% say he deserves re-election and 50% say he does not. Predictably, Democrats are one-sided for Obama’s re-election and Republicans are one-sided against it, while independents lean against a second Obama term.
    NYT/CBS Poll: 52% Say Obama Moving America Towards Socialism
    Friday, April 16, 2010
    By Matt Cover, Staff Writer

  • Munch

    Ted and Victor: eat the above!

  • felixw

    Cobra…. All you’ve done is shown the budget mess that happens when Democrats control the budgeting process — as they have done for most of the last two generations. That is, except for a brief period when the Republicans controlled the House and were able to pass balanced budgets. I’m not sure why you think outlining this disaster in dollars justifies the Democrats who have been in charge of the budget since before you and I were born.

  • NORBIT

    Why are Progresives so OBSESSED with Group Identity – particulalarly racial identity?

    When will Progressives EVOLVE to understand the nature of Self-Actualization and Autonomous Thought??

    Hey Progressives: YOU CAN’T FOOL MOTHER NATURE!! LOL!!

    Remember this as the results come in in November!!!! LOL!!!

  • NORBIT

    btw, Isn’t Bill maher a Christian-Hating Bigot?

  • sueNaustin

    The Real Royal King:

    Dude, LOL, I am getting concerned for you! You have some creepy stalkers on here — when can I expect to see your license plate number and pics of your house?

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    felixw,

    Is EVERYTHING “Democrats vs. Republicans” to you? Truth be told, it was BILL CLINTON’S budget that the Republican House passed. Remember?

    The fact remains that Tea Partiers have very little to complain about as far as taxes are concerned if you look at American History. Government spending is only a problem if you aren’t taking in enough revenue, which is the case today.

    What is your SOLUTION?

    –Cobra

  • PatsyDaWuss

    sueNaustin says:
    April 19, 2010 at 10:21 pm
    The Real Royal King:

    Dude, LOL, I am getting concerned for you! You have some creepy stalkers on here — when can I expect to see your license plate number and pics of your house?

    Susan, what you may not know is that Robert, aka TRRK, aka Mr. Glenn Bovine Koldys, aka Average American Patriot approves of stalkers. You may notice he mentions Jeff Merrill often, that is supposedly the name of someone who also posts here. Robert boasts how he traveled to California years ago to meet Jeff anonymously. Since then, Robert and his buddies John T. Brown and Scott Heckman have repeatedly posted a photo of someone who he claims is Merrill. In the photo, Merrill is holding a horse named “Royal King”. That link has been posted many times here at Mediaite.

  • PatsyDaWuss

    SueNAustin

    If you don’t believe me, why not take a look at Mr. GlennBovinekoldys comment at 3:33 PM. Then ask your hubby why he, as TRRK, also mentions Jeff Merrill in many posts. Now he’ll say that he is not MrGBK, but he would be lying. Note he mentions “Jeff” in a post just a few minutes after that 3:33.

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/dallas-tea-party-viral-video-fires-back-at-keith-olbermann/

  • PatsyDaWuss

    and in TRRK’s 4:48 post at this link

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/man-who-threatened-pelosi-got-his-ideas-from-fox-news-mom-says/

    He again mentions Jeff Merrill and another poster whose name he obtained. He later mentions Merrill in his 8:18 post. Later on he posts as MRGBV. Robert is one nasty human being.

  • felixw

    Cobra, I suggest you take a class on U.S. Government. The budget is created by Congress, not by the President. And if you want to know why the budget has consistently created deficits, you need to ask which party has controlled Congress during most of the last 75 years.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    The Budget is presented by the President.

    “Congressional consideration of the federal budget begins once the President of the United States submits a budget request, which is formulated over a period of months with the assistance of the Office of Management and Budget, the largest office within the Executive Office of the President. The budget request includes funding requests for all federal executive departments and independent agencies.

    The President submits the budget request each year to Congress for the following fiscal year, as required by the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921. Current law (31 U.S.C. 1105(a))[3] requires the President to submit a budget no earlier than the first Monday in January, and no later than the first Monday in February. Typically, Presidents submit budgets on the first Monday in February.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_budget_process

    Come again, Felixw?

    –Cobra

  • felixw

    Here, Cobra, is a chart for your benefit. This graph compares deficit spending under Republican and Democrat congresses, going back to 1940. I think you will see a striking contrast in the budgeting of the two parties.

    http://www.renewamerica.com/images/columns/bowyer030319.gif

  • sueNaustin

    PatsyDaWuss says:
    April 19, 2010 at 11:23 pm

    “Then ask your hubby why he, as TRRK ….”

    you are freaking weird. It must boggle your mind that I might live in Austin and not know somebody else in Austin.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Felixw,

    You’re still on this “Democrats vs. Republicans”, thing aren’t you?

    Don’t you see you’re being PLAYED?

    –Cobra

  • jimkerosh

    I do not think that there are a large number of Americans, and certainly not a majority, who suffer from profound problems with the President of the African-American. From this group, I tend to think of a good number of tea Partiers. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain the errors Permanent tax increases, and the provisions of the Supreme Council of the Republic, and missile defense, and C, and repeated calls to arms.
    sd card

  • writer

    The far left was only disagreeing with Bush all the time because he was white.

  • writer

    As for Minister Royal, he certainly does get around. One minute he’s in London, the next he’s helping non-English speaking people make out their census forms, the next he’s helping the military. He’s a white Texan who hates white southerners, and a super patriot who spells America with a ‘k’. Quite a mixed bag. A legend in his own mind.

  • felixw

    Cobra, the Constitution places the “power of the purse” — the power to raise and spend money — in Congress. Te Constitution is very clear that the Congress must authorize all spending. The President can make suggestions and proposals, but doesn’t even have a line item veto.

    And that is why the U.S. had a balanced budget during the brief time that Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, and spends like a drunken sailor when Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House.

  • PatsyDaWuss

    sueNaustin says:
    April 20, 2010 at 12:00 am

    you are freaking weird. It must boggle your mind that I might live in Austin and not know somebody else in Austin.

    No Sue, it does not boggle my mind. I know that Robert aka TRRK aka Mr. Glenbovinekoldys is married to a lady named Susan. It just seemed that you were here. Any doubt I had about that is gone now, based on your response, you are Mrs. Stephenson.

  • sueNaustin

    PatsyDaWuss says:
    April 20, 2010 at 9:08 pm
    “Any doubt I had about that is gone now, based on your response, you are Mrs. Stephenson.”

    Listen, you crazy person who should be committed:

    My name is Sue Ann Smith. I live at 3601 Willow Springs Drive, just off South Congress Avenue, in Austin. I have never been married, no kids. 51 years old, with 2 cats named Oz and Willow. GOOGLE IT.

    Do you want my cell phone #? Or have you already started stalking me, too?

    HEY MEDIAITE — please note what is going on here.

  • http://www.thecobraslair.com Cobra

    Felix writes:

    “Cobra, the Constitution places the “power of the purse” — the power to raise and spend money — in Congress. Te Constitution is very clear that the Congress must authorize all spending. The President can make suggestions and proposals, but doesn’t even have a line item veto.

    And that is why the U.S. had a balanced budget during the brief time that Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House, and spends like a drunken sailor when Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House.”

    You’re not getting this, are you? You’re stuck on this “whatever the facts are, I have to attack Democrats and support Republicans” nonsense.

    The President presents the BUDGET.

    “Total real discretionary outlays will increase about 35.8 percent under Bush (FY2001-06) while they increased by 25.2 percent under LBJ (FY1964-69) and 11.9 percent under Reagan (FY1981-86). By contrast, they decreased by 16.5 under Nixon (FY1969-74) and by 8.2 percent under Clinton (FY1993-98). Comparing Bush to his predecessors is instructive. Bush and Reagan both substantially increased defense spending (by 44.5 and 34.8 percent respectively). However, Reagan cut real nondefense discretionary outlays by 11.1 percent while Bush increased them by 27.9 percent. Clinton and Nixon both raised nondefense spending (by 1.9 percent and 23.1 respectively), but they both cut defense spending substantially (by 16.8 and 32.2 percent).

    Bush and LBJ alone massively increased defense and nondefense spending. Perhaps not coincidentally, Bush and LBJ also shared control of the federal purse with congressional majorities from their own political parties.”

    http://reason.com/archives/2005/10/19/bush-the-budget-buster

    Turn off Fox News and Hate Radio and let’s have a REAL discussion on Budgets, deficits and spending.

    –Cobra

  • felixw

    Cobra, read the U.S. Constitution. The President can ask Congress to authorize spending, but he is asking not telling. The Congress makes budgets. The President’s only recourse, if he disagrees with Congress, is to veto the entire budget. But even in that instance, the process goes back to Congress for them to form a new budget. The President does not even have a line item veto.

    And that’s why the budget has shown a surplus when the Republicans control Congress, and has run huge deficits under the Democrats. You may not like it, but those are the facts.

  • PatsyDaWuss

    sueNaustin says:
    April 21, 2010 at 1:13 am

    If Mediaite looked at what is going on here they would see that I said I believed you were Robert Stephenson’s wife susan then you, having previously referred to me as “a stalker”, go on to provide what you claim is your complete name and address. I would hope that there isn’t a soul here who would believe that is you, obviously a clear cut case of “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

    Regardless of your identity, if you are going to attack me for publishing the name Robert Stephenson of Austin, then have a word with your friend TRRK (aka MrGlennBovineKoldys) for mentioning the names and locations of others.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    On Showtime or HBO or whatever, Bill Maher doesn’t have to worry about advertisers. So I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that this scathing douchebag’s show is still on. Does anyone actually watch it? I literally thought this was canceled like 3 years ago.

  • Sunnyr

    This frickin’ MORON is too stupid to understand that WHITE PEOPLE voted this creep into office. Does he really believe that 15% of the population, black people, were enough to push Comrade Obama over the line? IDIOT!
    And, just for the record, every single person I know who voted for him are waiting with bated breath until they can vote his sorry butt OUT in 2012! They have gone from hard core Obamabots to Obama haters in the space of one year! Those RACIST WHITE PEOPLE!! pfft!

  • AmericanCowboy

    Why did 98% of America’s blacks vote for Obama? Weren’t many of those votes based on race? It seems only two percent of the Black vote was based on intelligence. Only a fool would vote for a Commie.

    Typical Obama voter video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyvqhdllXgU

  • Shocker

    I donn’t understand you .

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