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Joe Klein: Glenn Beck And Sarah Palin ‘Close To Being Seditious’

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Anyone who was wondering what the media would talk about once the health care debate was done need not wonder any more: it is all Tea Party all the time these days. More to the point, who are the Tea Partiers and who is responsible for bringing them about. Joe Klein has an answer.

This morning on the Chris Matthews Show, Klein reiterated what former President Bill Clinton also noted this morning (and what others have pointed out in the past), namely that anti-government movements are nothing new on the American political landscape and tend to appear when the economy is struggling. What is different this time, however, according to Klein, is the presence of Fox News, “which allows its commentators like Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck to rouse the Tea Party”, and a GOP that is lacking in a “responsible, moderate” leadership. Fighting words.

Meanwhile, Norah O’Donnell thinks that Sarah Palin is “stoking” the “seething anger” that is out there. At which point Klein read out the definition of seditious (from a napkin) as being “conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of the state.” Said Klein: “A lot of these statements, especially the ones coming from Glenn Beck, and to a certain extent Sarah Palin, are right up close to being seditious.” John Heilemann thinks Rush Limbaugh should be included in that seditious mix. Video below.


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  • MarkStr82Hell

    Oh Chris…Love that well balanced panel. What a joke!

  • The Real Royal King

    I don’t know about sedition, but some of the very clssy pick-up truck drivers we have in Texas, the ones who drive from their houses in Plano or Katy to jobs with insurance companies in Dallas or Houston, invariably have stickers on their rear windshields. If you drive a Ford, you have a little boy urinating on a Chevrolet logo, and vice verse. That’s what Beck and Palin are doing – urinating on America.

  • felixw

    Joe Klein was working the “conservatives are stupid” angle a few weeks ago. Now he has shifted to the “conservatives are violent” angle.

    That means he only has two story angles left: “conservatives are racist” and “conservatives are evil.” Then he has either to (1) actually address conservative views rather than try to discredit them, or else (2) go back to the beginning with “conservatives are stupid” all over again.

    I think it is safe to predict which option he will choose.

  • roxsteady

    Anyone who can read knows that taxes are at their lowest since 1960. There’s one teabagger complaint that’s easily discredited. As for the teabaggers being well educated. I give you these photos which fly in the face of that bald faced lie courtesy of Flicker. Comedy Gold!

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/pargon/sets/72157623594187379/

  • Moderate

    In 2003, Hillary Clinton screeched “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

  • roxsteady

    Sans the hitler signs?

  • Moderate

    http://zombietime.com/hillary_sf_office_topless_protest/

    All protest draws it share of idiots. Code Pink is always a great example.

  • roxsteady

    Was code pink part of Joe Klein’s comments? When you can’t dispute the facts, change the subject.

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Notice how they’re still using the “Rush used the word ‘regime’” meme, which was invented by Matthews, even though it has now been established that Matthews himself used the same word about the Bush administration (as did numerous other liberals, including John Kerry in 2004). These people are a bad joke. They just repeat the same bogus talking points over and over again, no matter how many times they are disproved.

    _____

    It appears that Matthews has suffered a major memory loss. I don’t have the facilities to search for every utterance of Joe McCarthy, but a look at more recent times reveals many, many, many examples of the phrase “Bush regime.” In fact, a search of the Nexis database for “Bush regime” yields 6,769 examples from January 20, 2001 to the present.

    It was used 16 times in the New York Times, beginning with an April 4, 2001 column by Maureen Dowd — who wrote, “Seventy-five days into the Bush regime and I’m a wreck” — and ending with a March 6, 2009 editorial denouncing the “frightening legal claim advanced by the Bush regime to justify holding [accused terrorist Ali al-Marri].”

    “Bush regime” was used 24 times in the Washington Post, beginning with a January 22, 2001 profile of Marshall Wittmann by Howard Kurtz — who noted that Wittmann served as “a Health and Human Services deputy assistant secretary in the first Bush regime” — and ending with an October 6, 2009 column by Dana Milbank which quoted far-left antiwar protester Medea Benjamin questioning whether the Obama administration “looks very different from the Bush regime.”

    Perhaps Matthews missed all of those references. If he did, he still might have heard the phrase the many times it was uttered on his own network, MSNBC. For example, on January 8 of this year, Democratic Rep. Joe Sestak said that, “In George Bush’s regime, only one million jobs had been created…” On August 21, 2009, MSNBC’s Ed Schultz referred to something that happened in 2006, when “the Bush regime was still in power.” On October 8, 2007, Democratic strategist Steve McMahon said that “the middle class has not fared quite as well under Bush regime as…” On August 10, 2007, MSNBC played a clip of anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan referring to “the people of Iraq and Afghanistan that have been tragically harmed by the Bush regime.” On September 21, 2006, a guest referred to liberals “expressing their dissatisfaction with the Bush regime.” On July 7, 2004, Ralph Nader — appearing with Matthews on “Hardball” — discussed how he would “take apart the Bush regime.” On May 26, 2003, Joe Scarborough noted a left-wing website that “has published a deck of Bush regime playing cards.” A September 26, 2002 program featured a viewer email that said, “The Bush regime rhetoric gets goofier and more desperate every day.”

    Finally — you knew this was coming — on June 14, 2002, Chris Matthews himself introduced a panel discussion about a letter signed by many prominent leftists condemning the Bush administration’s conduct of the war on terror. “Let’s go to the Reverend Al Sharpton,” Matthews said. “Reverend Sharpton, what do you make of this letter and this panoply of the left condemning the Bush regime?”

    Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Rush-Limbaugh-Chris-Matthews-and-the-regime-question-89848762.html#ixzz0lTtk5CV8
    _____

    What pathetic hypocrites!

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    I wonder if Joe Klein thinks any of these people were practicing sedition:

    http://www.anonymousfinch.com/2010/03/27/democratic-cognitive-dissonance/

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    And, Joe, what about these people? Is this sedition:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msc34EwzyAA&feature=player_embedded

  • m

    Joe’s right. What the conservative movement is doing now is nothing but sedition. Absolutely spot-on analysis.

  • SteveMG

    Klein doesn’t seem to understand that protesting against the people running the government is not the same as protesting against the government itself. The governors and the government are two distinct items.

    As we know, when liberals called Bush and the “neocons” a group of fascists who were destroying America, they were opposed to the Administration and Congress but not the government itself. They wanted Bush out of office but they didn’t want the government overturned.

    From the dictionary: sedition is defined as inciting opposition or rebellion against the state. The state. Not the rulers of the state.

    More important, sedition is still against the law. Does a journalist like Klein really want the government to start arresting people for inciting, as he calls it, sedition?

    Beck and Palin should go to jail?

    That’s stunning if he does. For if the Democrats can arrest Beck and Palin today, a Republican Administration can arrest a Joe Klein tomorrow.

    If Klein wants to arrest Americans for dissent, he is overturning the American government and our Constitution far more than he believes that Beck and Palin do.

    Who’s the real radical here?

  • Munch

    Joe Klein , who went on national TV and lied about his authorship of “True Colors”, show me where the violence was at any Tea Party?

    Where is it Joe???? You want to bring back the Alien & Sedition Acts of John Adams’ to protect your messiah?

    Let’s see what Hillary said about political debates:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJxmpTMGhU0

  • Munch

    Norah O’Donnell , the race card player was able to say something on this? How quaint!

    http://newsbusters.org/?q=blogs/alex-fitzsimmons/2010/04/11/msnbcs-norah-odonnell-plays-race-card-gingrich-colleagues-laugh-he

  • Munch

    roxsteady says:
    April 18, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Was code pink part of Joe Klein’s comments? When you can’t dispute the facts, change the subject.”

    roxy: “Anyone who can read knows that taxes are at their lowest since 1960. ”

    roxy, when you can’t dispute the facts, change the subject.

  • timzank

    roxsteady says:
    April 18, 2010 at 3:21 pm
    Was code pink part of Joe Klein’s comments? When you can’t dispute the facts, change the subject.

    That wasn’t a change of subject,that was a comparison you dolt.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chuck-Steele/1147844375 Chuck Steele

    I am having a difficult time determining which of those guests on Mr Tingles show is/are the conservative(s).
    Which one of those fine representitives of the press represent me and the rest of the conservative/moderate leaning Americans out here?
    Looking at the postings here at Mediaite today by Ms MacNicol, she is leaning/tilted to the left of center about 80 degrees as well.
    The press is lined up lock step with the liberal left and then wonder why we are concerned. Are you really that stupid?

  • TfT

    Joe Klein is a joke; he endorsed, even participated, in dissent against Bush, but now, teh One is in charge so anyone who dissents is seditious.

    Too funny.

    Typical liberal, Obama loving media idiot.

  • itzmec

    “afraid of losing their freedoms and rights, imminently.” nice english matthews.

  • SteveMG

    If I say that the current Congressional Republicans are corrupt politicians who want to take away our freedoms and are only opposing Obama to cement power to reign over America, is that sedition too?

    No, that gets me a prime time slot on MSNBC.

    I mean, give me a break.

    Yeah, Beck’s a nut and some of his commentary is absurd if not potentially dangerous. Same for Palin who is only qualified to be a morning show TV host (“Good Morning Juneau with Sarah Palin”). Were I King, I’d ban such language. From all sides. But I’m not King.

    President Obama is not the first President at the receiving end of such ugly rhetoric.

    It’s called democracy, Mr. Klein. It’s ugly and silly and stupid and dumb but, as Churchill said, it’s the least bad form of government we’ve been able to come up with.

  • da-wdc

    The Bush administration cherry picked intelligence and lied to the American people in order to start a preemptive war. Detainee abuse and torture also happened under Bush’s watch, and he drove the economy into the ditch on top of it. They governed as far to the right as possible and did a terrible job at running the country. Look at the mess he left behind.

    Meanwhile Obama gets elected with a strong majority and follows a moderate to center left path in his policies, and the response from the right is hysterical cries of socialism/fascism/communism, comparing him to Hitler, saying we have a gangster government, and accusing him of defying the Constitution. The nature of the rhetoric here is just grossly disproportionate to the actions of the administration. They’re creating some kind of alternate reality for their supporters and I think it’s irresponsible and dangerous to do that. And disrespectful – why are you telling your own people this nonsense when you know Obama is not a socialist, and health care is not Armageddon? It’s like Olbermann calling Scott Brown a homophobic racist reactionary (etc) – it’s not true, it cheapens the debate, and you’re basically telling your own audience they don’t deserve intelligent commentary.

  • da-wdc

    All that said, I don’t like this talk about Palin/Beck being “seditious.” They’re just rabble rousers for profit. If you call them “seditious,” that plays right into their hands. It’ll be on Beck’s show tomorrow and he’ll be asking his viewers to get more paranoid and afraid on his behalf. So don’t say they’re seditious. Say that they care nothing about serious issues facing the country – they’re just in it for the money, and they’re raking in millions.

  • valkyrie101

    Its not sedition. But it is a type of insurrection to attack the President. It has its purpose, some people do it, its ok, its constitutional, FOX can continue. It people are inclined to do that, fine. The world sees what is going on and they have formed their own opinion of the American right. Most people are aghast at what the Republicans are doing.

    The neo-con view of fear and fighting, is not the future. It may have had its purpose, but not in today’s world. Why beat a dead horse with the same old agressive views? Obama has fresh ideas, he was elected because of those. He intends to protect Pakistan, by far the biggest threat in the world, if it were to turn talaban like. That is why Obama is in Afganistan. That is the front line, since Pakistan does have tested nuclear weapons, and Pakistan is Islamic, though, graciously, moderate.

    Its helpful if everyone generally supports the President, but not crucial.

  • SteveMG

    The Bush administration cherry picked intelligence and lied to the American people in order to start a preemptive war

    George Bush didn’t say anything different about Iraqi WMDs that Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton did. Both Biden and Clinton said that Saddam had WMDs too. And right now, they’re two of the most powerful people in the country.

    The overwhelming evidence that those three people saw indicated that Iraq had WMD. And all three people based their statements on intelligence that was provided to them by others.

    This “Bush lied” slander is the type of stuff that Beck says. I find it amazing that people are upset over his ugly statements but make worse smears than he does.

    If people are mad at Bush, why aren’t they ten times more upset with Hillary and Biden?

  • TylerDurden

    da-wdc says:
    April 18, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    The Bush administration cherry picked intelligence and lied to the American people in order to start a preemptive war.”

    Get your facts straight.

    Let’s see who talked about Iraq’s WMD: BTW, da-wdc, I know this is hard for you to understand but 1998 was BEFORE 2001.

    From Sandy Berger, document thief and President Clinton’s National Security Advisor:

    “Imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened, believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. And some day, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again, as he has ten times since 1983.” – Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University, February 18, 1998

    Madeleine Albright, President Clinton’s Secretary of State:
    “Iraq is a long way from Ohio, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.” –

    Town Hall Meeting on Iraq at Ohio State University, February 18, 1998

    Next we feature statements by two democrat contenders for the presidency:

    “Every nation has to either be with us, or against us. Those who harbor terrorists, or who finance them, are going to pay a price.” – Senator Hillary Clinton, During an interview on CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, September 13, 2001

    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members… It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security. *** This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I’ve ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction.”

    - Senator Hillary Clinton, Addressing the US Senate, October 10, 2002

    “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.”
    - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
    - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” S
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
    - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998
    “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.”

    - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, December 5, 2001

    “We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.”
    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”
    - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force– if necessary– to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do” Rep.
    - Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

    “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
    - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

    “We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.”
    - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …”
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

  • TylerDurden

    BTW, da-wtc, we have grown tired of your relentless libby lies.

  • SteveMG

    Every statement made by Bush on Iraqi WMD was provided to him by his staff and assistants.

    The President of the United States, whether it’s Bush or Obama or Reagan or Kennedy, relies on his staff and experts to give him information. None know whether Iran or North Korea or Iraq is building weapons. They don’t have the time or capability to do so.

    So the intelligence community gathers information and provides the consensus – a national intelligence estimate – to the President. That’s what he bases his statements on.

    If you want to claim that people working in in the intelligence community or around the President fed him inaccurate or “cooked” information, that’s one thing. But to say that Bush himself said things he knew weren’t true is a slander.

    If you want Beck and Palin to stop the ugly rhetoric, why not stop doing it yourself?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Susan-Gessford/657775682 Susan Gessford

    But Tyler, there WERE none! And Bush knew that before he declared war. He knew before he sent Powell to the UN to beg for support. Bush was determined to take out the man who embarrassed his father. That’s why we went. He did think it would be quick, but was horrendously wrong, and now we have spent thousands of lives, hundreds of thousands of foreign lives, ruined our economy, ruined our reputation in the world by breaking the Geneva Convention repeatedly. The Democrats were wrong, too, but they were not in the White House. Bush did not have to invade a nation that was not a threat to us, and one that we had, in fact, sold arms to. So blame Dems, as you will, but Bush is responsible for the debacle.

  • SteveMG

    But Tyler, there WERE none! And Bush knew that before he declared war

    So Bush said things he knew were false but then invaded Iraq anyway which would show he was lying?

    And all of his people went along with this?

    Powell knew too?

    Glenn Beck isn’t this crazy.

  • valkyrie101

    Nobody knew that Sadaam did not have WMDs. He had used poison gas against the Iranians, and Kurds. So our President and staff operated on the presumption that he did have WMDs. Our chiefs did not lie, but they did, operating on the presumption of WMDs, knowingly rely on dubious intelligence. Fear after 911 was high then, and nobody was taking any chances. Bush did well.

  • Ted

    Klein is right but I’m willing to give them a pass. Seriously, does anyone really believe that Beck or Palin even know what the term means. Of course they don’t; they’re basically a couple of brain-stems.

  • ImNotBlue

    roxsteady says:
    April 18, 2010 at 3:09 pm

    Sans the hitler signs?

    As established many MANY times… the “Hitler” analogy was very popular as the left protested Bush. Apparently, that didn’t bother you then, and wasn’t a sign of “bad things to come.”

    roxsteady says:
    April 18, 2010 at 3:21 pm

    Was code pink part of Joe Klein’s comments? When you can’t dispute the facts, change the subject.

    I like your attempts to use the “stay on track” device, when you can’t defend a point made. Of course, reading your comments in this thread, the hypocrisy is pretty obvious. Did Klein “talk about taxes?” Then why did you bring it up? Why are YOU trying to change the subject?

    See, it’s easy to play that game… but it doesn’t work so when you’re obviously just BS-ing your way through. Try a new strategy.

    m says:
    April 18, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Remember when the left complained that they were patriotic for disagreeing with the President. I guess it’s not a two way street, huh? Guess it’s good for the left… bad for the right.

    I guess what it comes down to is if the leftwingers thing the complaint is valid (ie: they agree with it), then whatever you want to do -protest, hate speech, lie, etc.- is fine. However, if the disagree with the complaint, it’s disrespectful to say so in public… peacefully or not. Disagreeing with the left is apparently un-patriotic. How hypocritical.

  • shootfromthehip

    I disagree. I think both Beck and Palin are smart. They are smart enough to see an opening to exploit people’s fear for money. And that is just what they are doing. They are greedy, just like all Republicans.

    But at what cost?

    God forbid any violence actually befalls any elected representative.

  • ImNotBlue

    shootfromthehip says:
    April 18, 2010 at 8:22 pm

    You mean like Eric Cantor? Oh, that’s right… it’s only a concern for the left. Forgot who I was talking to.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dona-Barone/1060506711 Dona Barone

    In 2003, Hillary Clinton screeched “I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you’re not patriot
    _________________________________________________-

    $arah Palin has been debating an empty chair for a year now…she is always right because she makes stuff up and preaches EXCLUSIVELY to the choir with pre-screened questions and answers…debate????
    There is NO debate, they have a news channel to say any crap they want, and a bunch of nuts who think they are getting arrested if they don’t get health insurance or that their grandmother is going to get euthanized….DEBATE?

    For 100 grand $arah will go anywhere and say anything, but NO DEBATE. Debates don’t pay for those lear jets.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dona-Barone/1060506711 Dona Barone

    Bush did well.
    ______________________________________________

    I wonder where the teabaggers were while Bush was off “doing (ahem) well”. It’s like these whining losers just woke up from a dream and realized they are lost. It’s been a 10 year road for them LOST IN LOSERVILLE, but they act like THIS YEAR everything just broke for no reason. Srthesly, the Teaparty needs a COLLECTIVE NAP.
    They can’t take solid food in their condition so $arah sells them pablum to swallow…small amounts and constantly…CHA-CHING!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Breland/1086398094 John Breland

    The Declaration of Independence was “seditious,” too. The only difference is that we have far more provocation today than we did in 1776,

  • TylerDurden

    Susan Gessford says:
    April 18, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    But Tyler, there WERE none! And Bush knew that before he declared war.”

    You make the claim prove it. As Clinton appointee of the CIA told Bush : “It’s a slam dunk.”

    Prove otherwise.

  • TylerDurden

    hey, Joe, please talk to us about this when the Tea Party makes a movie about the killing of a sitting President. I don’t recall your outrage over the one about Bush.

  • shootfromthehip

    “You mean like Eric Cantor? Oh, that’s right… it’s only a concern for the left. Forgot who I was talking to.”

    Eric Canto’s story of his office being shot was just that–a story.

    Check with the Richmond Police Dept.

    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/03/26/phony_eric_cantor_story

  • TylerDurden

    shootfromthehip – Salon .com!!

    You are a dumb blooter. LMAO!

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Shootfromthehip:

    The FBI (Obama’s FBI) subsequently arrested a man and charged him with making death threats against Cantor:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/35152.html

  • ImNotBlue

    Dona Barone says:
    April 18, 2010 at 8:36 pm

    Reminds me of a certain President who takes questions from the audience… that “aren’t pre-screened,” and “just happen” to be from event organizers kids.

    Riiiiight.

    shootfromthehip says:
    April 18, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    I should have known! A congress person’s assistant (or someone around him) claims that Tea Partiers were using the “N” word, despite no video being produced… and that’s the truth! Eric Cantor on the other hand… well, that can’t possibly be true… even if the facts suggest differently!

    Of course, there’s also the case of New Jersey Governor Christie, and the NJ Teacher’s Union joking about his death. But that probably didn’t happen either… damn the facts.

    I should have know! Even when there’s evidence of left-on-right violence or threats of violence… it didn’t really happen! And when there’s no evidence of right-on-left violence, we should be really worried, and just “take their word for it.”

    I should have know…

  • Caryson

    Seditious statements?

    This guy is a shoe in to walk the red carpet and win the “Douche Bag Award of the Week!”

    The NY Times has repeatedly published classified documents that have actually undermined the security of the United States of America and Klein and his left wing media scribes have never uttered a word. But he worries about commentators.

    If the lame stream media actually did their jobs as journalists and reporters instead of being government scribes, they might want to look at where this meme about the “incitement to violence by the right” is coming from. It all seemed to start when David Plouffe returned to the White House.

    Everyday I listen to these detestable morons on the left and in the MSM makes me feel that the age of Obama is nothing but the age of Bizarro World!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Rodriquez/1699939051 Mike Rodriquez

    The fourth estate and the fifth estate have been in cahoots and on an unending mission to destroy the capitalist system solely because they hate corporations and love their sacred cows the unions, a construct based in authoritarianism…a quick connection of the dots brings them in alliance with a communist construct from Marx and Lenin whose existential ideological notion proposes that by punishing the wealthy you can “level-the-playing-field. This idiomatic expression is straight out of the losers manual. Life is not about playing to a tie, it is about fulfilling your God given potential and that is not played on a level-playing-field. If life teaches us anything is that every living creature must compete for their dream or die a slave to those men who would define your meager existence and keep you in a mediocre subservient role.

    They have always been in cahoots ever since the advent of the first 20th century Progressives. Their agnosticism and atheistic hedonistic philosophy is ideological opposed by the very meaning of its twisted logic and negative inferences that every man is always working the angles to his own advantage without regard for his neighbor. That is the reason the Joe Klein’s of this world can’t visualize a country like ours where people can have differences in political philosophy without acrimonious hyper partisanship. Only men like him don’t understand that conservatives will allow abject difference in peaceful expression of ideas no matter how heated they may seem to him. Why does he have a problem with it…I’ll tell you why. Because Joe Klein has an authoritarian spirit…like all Marxist Morons like him.

  • Jelperman

    The comments from Kathleen Parker are awfully rich, considering the fact that she used her syndicated column to say that Wesley Clark and John Kerry should be shot. It’s like Rush Limbaugh calling someone else a fat, racist dope addict.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brian-Rogiers/1426705964 Brian Rogiers

    Until the unemployment numbers improve dramatically, the opposition will always have a voice. The left knows this, and are desperate to paint anyone who opposes this administration’s policies as:

    A) Racist
    B) Crazy
    C) Violent
    D) Stupid

    or their favorite:

    E) All of the above

    Doing this serves two purposes: Red Meat for the party faithful, and they hope they can convince Independents to think twice about listening to anything the opposition says.(Even though there hasn’t been one arrest of a Tea Party Member, no injuries at the demonstrations, and there has been exactly $0 in property damages since the Movement began.)

    This year’s revolution will not be fought with bullets, but with ballots, just as our founders intended. Playing the race card, comparing average Americans with domestic terrorists, and calling people stupid seems counterproductive, but that’s just me…..

    (Also: Chris Matthews is a tool.)

  • jimkerosh

    Joe Klein is a joke, and that it supported, and even participated in the opposition against President Bush, but now, one is responsible even for those divisions is seditious. Very funny. If you call them “seditious”, which plays right into their hands. Will be on the show tomorrow, and Beck said he would have asked viewers to get more from persecution and fear on his behalf. Not to say they charm.
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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-Van-Veen/617590041 Chris Van Veen

    So! A little man-child who runs a failing magazine (!) is the arbiter of this stuff? I knew media elites were, well, elite, but I didn’t know they liked BOASTING about it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Adkins/1585417987 Bill Adkins

    Happy Hatriots day to all you who criticize Klein on this one.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-19/todays-holiday-of-hate/?cid=hp:exc

  • http://www.anonymousfinch.com AnonymousFinch

    Bill Adkins:

    You have proved time and again that you are the biggest hater on this board. You through out defamatory claims about groups tat you don’t like, and you continue to do so even when confronted withe evidence that you are wrong. You are not interested in the facts; therefore, your opinion is worthless.

  • The Real Royal King

    Your link obviously was not read by all, Bill, but I appreciate the link. It is indeed sobering that some Americans hold out McVeigh as a hero and Oklahoma City as some fundamental expression of civil rights. Fortunately, their numbers are small and diminishing.

  • Bias-Media

    Actually, for one of the rare occasions, I actually agree with Klein. Fox is aiding the Tea Party movement by providing coverage for the TEA Party that other media outlets won’t cover.

    with regards to Hannity and Beck, again, I agree ONLY to the extent that, Beck and Hannity ONLY became relevant because the TEA Party’s message is being suppressed by the MSM, of which Klein is one of them. I would go beyond that and say that the TEA Party only became necessary because the people’s interest have also been suppressed by the MSM; which is why Fox found an audience who appreciates Fox for at least covering their interest.

    Had the MSM did its job and cover ALL American interest, there would not be a need for a “BecK” or a “Hannity” on Fox. To that end, Fox’s ratings may not be a big story today…

  • TylerDurden

    Bill Adkins says:
    April 19, 2010 at 8:17 am

    Happy Hatriots day to all you who criticize Klein on this one.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-19/todays-holiday-of-hate/?cid=hp:exc

    LMAO

    And what was untrue in those signs, Billy boy???

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-Cagney/1644064484 James Cagney

    Who cares what this LIAR says. He is a left wing extremist with an agenda and ultra biased to the libs.

  • drex94

    wow-AN “EXTREMIST WITH AN AGENDA”…HMMMMMM…..SOUNDS FAMILIAR …..
    LETS SEE….RUSH WINDBAG …..GLENN -I LOVE HITLER-BECK ….VANNITY….LAURA IDIOT-I MEAN INGRAHM….THAT SCREAMING IDIOT-WHATS HIS NAME- DORK LEVINE…….SARAH PAY-LIN…..OH AND OF COURSE- FOX NEWS……DID I LEAVE ANYBODY OUT

  • TylerDurden

    drex94- yes, yourself.

  • pyrope

    drex, you must have sat up all night thinking of that. How brilliant you must be! NOT.

    The principal difference between Mr. Limbaugh, Mr. Beck, Mr. Hannity, and Dr. Levin, et al is they are not hate-filled ideologues.

    Mr. Klein is the typical liberal ideologue; he is not relevant but wants so badly to be, so he instead he spews anger in his wake. People like him are sick! They’re full of hate. He needs to let go of his hate before it gnaws out his innards.

  • Sunnyr

    This jerk is off his nut! If Glenn Beck is seditious, then over half of America is also seditious. MESSNBC has a running freak show and Mr. “Tingles” leads the parade. No wonder no one watches the idiots in that Zoo!

  • jimkerosh

    As we know, when liberals called Bush and the “neocons” a assemble of fascists who were destroying America, they were opposed to the Administration and legislature but not the government itself. They wanted Bush out of office but they didn’t want the government overturned.
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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tony-Westover/1496648721 Tony Westover

    *LOL* So these pussy progressives have completely neutered the term “racist”. I guess now they’re going to move on to “sedition”.

    The claims of racism by the left are just hilarious, because in actuality they’re the ones that are usually racist. The claims of sedition on the other hand, I’ll proudly wear that like a fuckin’ badge.

  • Sunnyr

    Glenn Beck, don’t let the *astards get you down. Keep on pumping out the TRUTH because we are listening, at last. Vermin like Comrades Klein and Matthews, and their weekly panel of leftist nutwads, are making fools of themselves to MILLIONS of normal, regular people, who live in the REAL world. A$$-Hats like the MESSNBC bunch live in a tight little elitist cocoon and don’t have a clue about real people struggling under this oppressive Obama REGIME. They will be defeated in November and again in 2012.

    The Tsunami is coming.

  • shearwater

    Beck has a Red Line telephone to the White House which is one link he has to credibility. Anytime Rahm Immanuel or any of the brain dead in the White House wish, they can challenge him on or off the air. Of course they are afraid because Beck has studied this incisively and probably has a better grounding in the facts than those on the left who discredit him. Obama is trying to destroy the country, no question about it. He repudiates free market capitalism and hates America that you and I grew up in . . . a la Jeremiah Wright, ” God bless America? No, no, no, Go damn America!!”

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