You must be joking! is Al-Jazera responsible for the rape?

I didn’t see much or cover to cover coverage of this issue on Fox/CNN?

Why isn’t the Major Media industry in the Country not covering the continuous blackout of Al-Jazera, from Cable. The Major cable companies like Comcast etc, continue to deny it entrance, stock exchange is not letting them trade like others etc, where is your coverage of that?

Meanwhile, here on Mediaite, it’s like the all the nastiness aimed at Clarence Thomas in Wisconsin never happened. Hmm.

skyfet said:
You must be joking! is Al-Jazera responsible for the rape?

No… but if liberals are going to claim that Al-Jazeera has the best coverage of things going on in the middle east you should own the fact that they are “selective” in that coverage. Just a week ago Sam Donaldson said Al-Jazeera should be “praised”. Hope he says that again this weekend. :)

Correction: California, not Wisconsin. I got my idiots mixed up there for a second.

errxn said:
Meanwhile, here on Mediaite, it’s like the all the nastiness aimed at Clarence Thomas in Wisconsin never happened. Hmm.

Too early for you to add comment, you might want to come back when your vision is clear.

Who cares? Does the American mainstream media ever talk about AlJazeera or its personalities? Nope. They were only FORCED to recently, since AJ’s coverage was vastly superior to the rest.

I think these people need to wake up and realize that America is NOT the center of the world. Outside of America, no one knows who Lara Logan is. Hell, even everyone IN America don’t know who Lara Logan is.

tatboy said:
No… but if liberals are going to claim that Al-Jazeera has the best coverage of things going on in the middle east you should own the fact that they are “selective” in that coverage. Just a week ago Sam Donaldson said Al-Jazeera should be “praised”. Hope he says that again this weekend. :)

You know how many people were in the crowd? By the way she had her crew with her, why not transmit it live or use extra protection. Trying to blame someone else for another persons misfortune is just lame, especially when the plight of Al-Jazeera is ignored by the rest of the media. The blacklisting of the station started because the Govt. didn’t like their reporting during the Iraq war, and all the other media outlet stayed quiet and pretended they didn’t know what was going on. Now they are crying that something was missed in a massive crowd of protest.

Oh boy! I really wonder if this will turn into another thread full of partisan bickering and name calling about a woman being sexually assaulted. As American as apple pie. Our founders would be so proud!

Does anyone remember how grotesque it was watching people try and score political points off the shootings in Tucson before anyone knew all the facts? Now we’re watching the same thing play out a little over a month later. Ahhh….lessons learned!

I have to say, Al Jazeera’s coverage of Egypt has been very good and I watched it on the web like many in the US. However, I have been checking their site for days to see mention of the Logan assault during the Friday celebration and nothing…. There has been a call in the media to get AJ on basic cable and satellite – see the gushing Boston Globe editorial demanding it. However, this selective coverage says that they really aren’t ready for prime time yet.

What a tremendous missed opportunity!

There is so much “view point” news coverage on the cable line up already (Fox on the right and CNN, MSNBC, BBC Am, and everyone else on the left) that the big content providers probably aren’t going to make room for them. It’s a real shame too, when the world was watching, AJ could have stepped up and offered un-bias international journalism but as it turns out, they are just pandering to their base like so many others.

I have to agree with the sentiment expressed by @ohwell and say that what happened to a reporter for an American outlet could be included in larger stories about attacks on journalists or perhaps the mistreatment of females, but because she’s not very well known outside of our borders, it’s probably not a story that would be of interest to their audience.

And, though it may be politically incorrect to say, but Al Jazeera seems to have several high-profile female correspondents and they do cover some of the modern world’s less advanced, more isolated societies, so unfortunately, they may not actually think what happened is that far from the norm.

After all, their own reporters were attacked, arrested, their offices and studios were raided on more than one occasion during the Egyptian revolt and much of their equipment was confiscated. If freedom of the press and its protected status as a class isn’t to be expected, perhaps other atrocities, especially if they happen to someone else occasionally go unreported.

skyfet said:
Too early for you to add comment, you might want to come back when your vision is clear.

Really? Please feel free to show me where I missed the story, then.

Magister said:
I have to agree with the sentiment expressed by @ohwell and say that what happened to a reporter for an American outlet could be included in larger stories about attacks on journalists or perhaps the mistreatment of females, but because she’s not very well known outside of our borders, it’s probably not a story that would be of interest to their audience. And, though it may be politically incorrect to say, but Al Jazeera seems to have several high-profile female correspondents and they do cover some of the modern world’s less advanced, more isolated societies, so unfortunately, they may not actually think what happened is that far from the norm. After all, their own reporters were attacked, arrested, their offices and studios were raided on more than one occasion during the Egyptian revolt and much of their equipment was confiscated. If freedom of the press and its protected status as a class isn’t to be expected, perhaps other atrocities, especially if they happen to someone else occasionally go unreported.

Thank you Magister.

I’d like to add that Lara Logan was NOT the only reporter that was attacked during the protests.

The American media’s infatuation with her is for obvious reasons, but why would the rest of the world care? Seriously? We’re so caught up with celebrity it’s disgusting. People act like reporters are royalty and the reporters act as though they should be treated as such.

Did any of the soldiers that died in Iraq or Afghanistan get this much coverage? Didn’t think so, guess they’re not pretty enough.

im_lovin_it said:
Does anyone remember how grotesque it was watching people try and score political points off the shootings in Tucson before anyone knew all the facts? Now we’re watching the same thing play out a little over a month later.

What the hell are you talking about?

Al Jazeera doesn’t consider the brutal rape of Lara Logan a crime.  To them it’s just another night “out on the town”.

Pablo said:
What the hell are you talking about?

Daily Kos and liberals go running and screaming, “SEE!?!?! VIOLENT RHETORIC!! SARAH PALIN! GLENN BECK! BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!” Then we met the weirdo.

This Lara Logan story has now become a great way for the conservative narrative to demonize a religion of 1.5 billion people. Does anyone know anything about the Lara Logan situation? I mean any actual facts about what happened to her in Egypt? No.

Shoe is just on the other foot now.

Pablo said:
What the hell are you talking about?

It means check your facts before you spread rubbish crap on the net.

Heck, that’s my interpretation of it.

tatboy said:
No… but if liberals are going to claim that Al-Jazeera has the best coverage of things going on in the middle east you should own the fact that they are “selective” in that coverage. Just a week ago Sam Donaldson said Al-Jazeera should be “praised”. Hope he says that again this weekend. :)

it is interesting it wasn’t reported, and i think you nailed it, as to why not.

im_lovin_it said:
Daily Kos and liberals go running and screaming, “SEE!?!?! VIOLENT RHETORIC!! SARAH PALIN! GLENN BECK! BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS!!!” Then we met the weirdo.

This Lara Logan story has now become a great way for the conservative narrative to demonize a religion of 1.5 billion people. Does anyone know anything about the Lara Logan situation? I mean any actual facts about what happened to her in Egypt? No.

Shoe is just on the other foot now.

That is the dumbest analysis I’ve heard on the subject.

skyfet said:
It means check your facts before you spread rubbish crap on the net.

Heck, that’s my interpretation of it.

Until I read that, anyway.

im_lovin_it said:
Does anyone know anything about the Lara Logan situation? I mean any actual facts about what happened to her in Egypt? No.

So, you just haven’t been paying attention and therefore everyone should be just as ignorant as you are? Uh, no.

Pablo said:
That is the dumbest analysis I’ve heard on the subject.

Until I read that, anyway.

No, you’re dumb…seriously, you act as though you are some intellectual and you just say “this is dumb”?

Pablo said:
So, you just haven’t been paying attention and therefore everyone should be just as ignorant as you are? Uh, no.

So you were there? In Egypt? You KNOW what happened? Every detail?!? Why are you wasting your time here!?!? Quick! Tell your story! Finger the accusers, tell the President, save the day, Pablo!

By the way, gold sticker for you. Way to come swooping into a story about a woman being sexually assaulted and start calling people names. You make America proud, really.

Sorry…finger the ATTACKERS! Whoops. Still though, I would like you to help me with my ignorance. Please.

errxn said:
Meanwhile, here on Mediaite, it’s like the all the nastiness aimed at Clarence Thomas in Wisconsin never happened. Hmm.

That would be California, but yes, Mediaite only covers “racism” if it’s against Democratic black people.

ghostrunner said:
t’s a real shame too, when the world was watching, AJ could have stepped up and offered un-bias international journalism but as it turns out, they are just pandering to their base like so many others.

Yes, and the people who watch AJ have double standards, a rape isn’t a rape if it happens to a pro-USA reporter and for the Arab males watching AJ, rape is just another way of dominating women that is their cultural norm.

Magister said:
because she’s not very well known outside of our borders, it’s probably not a story that would be of interest to their audience.

Because the Arab world doesn’t have a free press, AJ’s standards are totally one-sided and biased. Who gives a shit if half-wit macho creeps don’t get their message out to a wider audience.

The simple fact unmentioned on this little thread is that Lara Logan has been embedded with the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan for half-a-decade, and AJ considers her, and the USA, the enemy. AJ’s hatred for the USA is why liberal anti-American haters love AJ so much.

Especially when they have Rachid Khalidi and Sy Hersh babbling Hate America mantras non-stop for an hour-long “interview” which reminds one of the “Three Minute Hate” of 1984, only twenty times longer.

I think our media should try and get a statement , and/or a brief interview with someone from Al Jezeera and ask why they didn’t cover it? I wouldn’t expect it to be the same import for them as in the US but a least some coverage.

Then again ; they might ask why certain stories about violence by Americans against Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan don’t seem to be headlines here.

How seriously do we take it when private contractors in the ME, paid for with tax dollars, kill civilians? Are we outraged, or mildly interested?

@David Mangum: I thought that I covered the lack of a free press in my initial comment by listing some of the problems Al Jazeera experienced with their broadcasting. Though perhaps to underline the point, I’ll add that not only did they face pressures within Egypt, but they also reported interference with their signal Nilesat, Arabsat & the Hot Bird distribution platforms.

skyfet said:
The blacklisting of the station started because the Govt. didn’t like their reporting during the Iraq war, and all the other media outlet stayed quiet and pretended they didn’t know what was going on

could you elaborate?

Rape isn’t big news in the Middle Eastern Muslim countries because it’s a daily event which is never reported because the victim gets stoned to death for admitting that she was raped.

@OxyCon: To one or the other of these Logan posts, I commented with a link to a news article that says Egypt jailed their first man for sexual assault in 2008 and the victim was heralded in a series of articles for being a hero because she came forward. Considering that Egypt is one of the most westernized Middle Eastern countries, it could be an act of bravery for Al Jazeera to post the story or maybe start with it on AJE as a step in easing the culture.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/15/live-blog-egypt

Scroll to 1:30 am.

Mediaite, you are so incredibly off point sometimes. No wonder your comment threads are full of Conservative Trolls.

Also, nobody thought to contact AJE for comment? Or did you just choose to omit that piece of information?

Sloppy stuff.

Everyone should have listened to Glenn Beck. He was right.

He is right again. Look at what is about to happen as he said it would.

Military to secure Qaradawi’s access to Tahrir Square
Banned Qaradawi returns to lead Friday prayers in Egypt
Thursday, 17 February 2011

For the first time since he was banned from leading weekly friday prayers in Egypt 30 years ago, prominent Muslim scholar Yusuf al-Qaradawi will lead thousands in the weekly prayers from Cairo’s Tahrir Square on Friday.

Sources told Al Arabiya that a military force will accompany the head of the International Union of Muslim Scholars from his home to Tahrir Square, provide security for the prayers and accompany him back to his residence.
Al-Qaradawi last delivered a Friday prayer sermon in Egypt in 1981 after the assassination of former President Anwar el-Sadat.

Other prominent Muslim scholars were also banned from delivering the Friday sermon, such as Abd al-Hamid Kishk, Sheikh Mohammed al-Ghazali, and Sheikh Ahmed El-Mahallawi.

Maybe, just maybe, Aljazeera thought the coverage of the Egyptian people freeing themselves from the yoke of 30 years of Dictatorship was the leading story? Believe it, or not, in some countries being an American doesn’t warrant headlines. Their busy attending their own problems….I know….what’s up with that? Don’t they know, we are always the center of attention??….go figure!

Corey Caplan said:
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/middle-east/2011/02/15/live-blog-egypt

Scroll to 1:30 am.

Good find!

It appears that the Salon blogger (and the person who IMed Jonathon Capehart with the WaPo) ran their search using AJE’s news search, while the two entries that you found (there’s another at 11:48AM) only come up via their blog search. Also, if you search Google keeping the site limited to english.aljazeera, they don’t come up, but they do if you expand beyond the subdomain.

And before anybody says that they’ve added the mention — with the 11:48 being out of order, the possibility crossed my mind — there’s a mucked-up date at 4 PM and the news search doesn’t produce it, while the blog and Google do.

“Critic: On Al Jazeera’s Website, It’s Like Lara Logan Attack Never Happened”

Are you kidding me! Of course the attack didn’t happen in the eyes of Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera is the PR wing of the Muslim Brotherhood and radical Islam and if nothing else the Muslim Mid-East in general. They are NOT going to have a hand in announcing to other Muslims and the outside world that Muslims are capable of this. It’s just like the Iranian President saying there are no Gays in Iran. Really! Well maybe they have killed them all. In the eyes of some of those Muslims Mrs. Loagn should have been arrest for adultery. Beside, who are her witnesses, just 200 evil horny Muslim men against 1 female infidel. Are you kidding, rape, sexual assault! Muslim don’t do that. Or it’s, she just an infidel anyway, it really isn’t rape. Women are 2nd class citizens in many parts of the Islamic world but the world wide main stream free press largely ignores it.

I know that there are good and evil people spread out everywhere on this Earth but right now I’m not liking the ratio in the middle east right now. Sharia Law does NOT impress me but if I were ruled by it I would rather fight and die. I know Hosni Mubarak was a evil dictator and a tyrant and that we should have never backed for all those years but there in lies the problem. The phase “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely” never applied more than today’s Mid-East. There are not a lot of people there that truly support
and true democracy. But without it, the only way to change over government is through massive protest if you are very lucky or through a barrel of a gun.

Quote from article
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What does this say about a news service that touts itself as “honest, courageous and distinctive”? Perhaps Al Jazeera should add a qualifier to that description. That qualifier may be “when politically expedient”.

Really! Well they aren’t far off most of the press here in America and just like them they do it willingly. Just about all the press here in America have an agenda but at least there are completing views here and we can argue them and express them. Most of the world only hear one voice which really isn’t a voice. I mean it all depends on what you mean by “honest, courageous and distinctive”. Now a days we all allowed make up our own meanings of words. It’s a shame isn’t it?

After all of the praise we’ve heard about al Jazeera’s coverage of Egypt, I bet many in the US began to think there’s gotta be at least something wrong with this picture. And to be honest, there is something wrong, but it’s not the fact that al Jazeera didn’t report extensively on US reporters being attacked. Their decision to focus on the original story, i.e. the revolution, was a smart one, because otherwise they would end up covering their OWN reporters 24 hours a day, considering what the network has been through in Egypt.

However, I said that there IS something wrong in this masterpiece picture of al Jazeera being must-see-teevee for foreign news that we are being presented with so often these days and weeks.

I’ve been watching their English channel pretty extensively since the trouble in Tunisia began and the first thing that struck me as strange (to say the least) is that, following the exit of Tunisian president and the start of protests and clashes in Egypt, the Egyptian mayhem at first wasn’t even their top story. Instead, they were having hour long specials all day about the “Palestinian papers” which have led to a big shakeup in Palestinian authority (PA) and have strengthened Hamas (opposed to PA). At the same time, for example, CNN International was all over the Egypt story with Ben Wedeman warning that something big is on its way here.

A few days later, when the clashes in Cairo erupted again, that’s when all the US media started with extensive reporting, and that was pretty much the moment when al Jazeera went on for wall-to-wall coverage that we have heard so much about recently. I’m not pulling any conclusions out of this (yet), I’m just saying it was a bit strange for me.

And during the non-stop coverage itself, the difference between them and CNN in its best days was dramatic in journalistic terms. The best thing al Jazeera had were the pictures, but what bugged me all the time were the words and sentences we actually heard explaining those pictures.

Regardless of what one thinks about Mubarak and his dictatorial regime, as a news organization you should try doing your best in presenting all sides of a certain story to your audience. Al Jazeera did this only the first few days until their offices in Cairo were shut down. That was the moment when virtually everything went downhill in terms of their credibility.

The coverage consisted of endless phone interviews with anti-government protesters and very little reporting. In less than 24 hours, they began referring to anti-Mubarak protesters as “pro-democracy demonstrators” and when we saw those large gatherings on Tahrir Square, they were the only news organization that reported “more than two million people” gathered there. The others were very cautios and reported “hundreds of thousands” at most.

Of course, I enjoyed this honeymoon with the protesters for some time, after all they are “fighting for freedom and democracy” (and I hate dictators). But after a little while, I checked what BBC World channel had on and found completely different thing. Their lead anchor in Cairo Lyse Doucet had a live interview with Mubarak’s party official, followed by an interview with a woman that supports Mubarak, followed by an interview with opposition figures, a protester or two – very balanced to say the least.

When the revolution itself was announced, on CNN & co. you could hear reporters describing the scene. On al Jazeera, you could see the protesters reporting and their anchor Adrian Finighan afterwards demanding bias from his Egyptian-born colleague!

What I’m trying to say (and I know I’m writing far more than I should – sorry) is that al-Jazeera has a tremendeous network of bureaux and reporters, a great deal of authority on many international stories, but their editorial standards in Egypt coverage are highly questionable in terms of anti-Mubarak bias. You and I (the viewers) may be anti-Mubarak, but is a news organization ready to take responsibility when 300 people die in part as a consequence of their coverage? Coverage in which they gave the airtime to one side mostly, although not all of the 80 million Egyptians are against Mubarak.

And part of that biased coverage is the fact that Lara Logan story surfaced only on their blog, not on-air. It’s hard to sustain your credibility if you suddenly report that there are sexual maniacs adn rapists even among the “peaceful pro-democracy demonstrators”, to whom you’ve given such prominence and praise the past few weeks, providing them basically with a media platform for all their anti-government demands.

Please, what happened to Lara Logan is terrible, but so are the murdering and torturing of Arab journalists, NONE of which the American networks and cable companies cover.

kvon said:
No, you’re dumb…seriously, you act as though you are some intellectual and you just say “this is dumb”?

Did I suggest that I’m an intellectual? I do know dumb when I see it and I’m not afraid to point it out. I also know slimy. Tell me, kvon, why is Zuhdi Jasser an Uncle Tom?

im_lovin_it said:
So you were there? In Egypt? You KNOW what happened? Every detail?!? Why are you wasting your time here!?!? Quick! Tell your story! Finger the accusers, tell the President, save the day, Pablo!

Did I say that? I don’t think so. But there have been at least half a dozen threads here, with links to all sorts of details about this incident. If you’re not familiar with them, that’s one thing, but please don’t demand that I pretend to be as ignorant as you are. Ain’t gonna happen.

By the way, gold sticker for you. Way to come swooping into a story about a woman being sexually assaulted and start calling people names. You make America proud, really.

Where did I do that? Are you hallucinating?

I’ve seen that live blog post earlier. It’s not doctored.

However, despite the fact that whomever runs the live blog was kind and concerned enough to mention her and send prayers, the fact that no news story was done to report on her assault is inexcusable.

Pablo said:
Did I suggest that I’m an intellectual? I do know dumb when I see it and I’m not afraid to point it out. I also know slimy. Tell me, kvon, why is Zuhdi Jasser an Uncle Tom?

Did I say that? I don’t think so. But there have been at least half a dozen threads here, with links to all sorts of details about this incident. If you’re not familiar with them, that’s one thing, but please don’t demand that I pretend to be as ignorant as you are. Ain’t gonna happen.

Where did I do that? Are you hallucinating?

Oh how precious. Where were you calling people names? Why within the very post you asked the question contains a great example! Oh Pablo….my sweet sweet PaBLo…….I heart you. XOXOXOXO

im_lovin_it said:
Oh how precious. Where were you calling people names? Why within the very post you asked the question contains a great example! Oh Pablo….my sweet sweet PaBLo…….I heart you. XOXOXOXO

What in the world does that have to do with your assertion that I “swooped into a story about a woman being sexually assaulted and started calling people names.”? Do the people who tuck you in at night let you use a fork? And you don’t know where I live, right?