That’s Tea Party thinking for you.

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The Tea Party-backed West made the comments on an internet radio station, saying the government “should be censoring the American news agencies which enabled (Assange).”

LOL,, oh man!
Way to start off your tenure buddy!

Atticus Draco said:
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The Tea Party-backed West made the comments on an internet radio station, saying the government “should be censoring the American news agencies which enabled (Assange).”

LOL,, oh man!
Way to start off your tenure buddy!

So, I take it you mix a bit of libertarianism with your conservatism as I do with my liberalism. A small piece of common ground.

And so it begins…

Wow. A combat vet thinks people who publish classified national security material should be dealt with harshly? Whoda thunk?

I believe that most of the sides, Liberal, Conservatism, Independent, etc. can pretty much all agree…No censorship. Is this the same guy who got the woman who said if the ballots don’t work, bullets will, or something along those lines to be the head of his office in Congress?

The Real Rabid Kook said:
That’s Tea Party thinking for you.

No, that’s Army thinking for you, Kook. I don’t recall a Tea Party position on leaked classified information.

The Real Royal King said:
So, I take it you mix a bit of libertarianism with your conservatism as I do with my liberalism. A small piece of common ground.

Well c’mon,,, that’s a BOLD thing to say for a freshman congressman!!
“HEY NYTimes,, STFU!” “OR ELSE!”
lol
“pissst,, they dont like Tea Part’rs dude”

You know,,, he might as well said he supports starving poor children
They would have ignored that,, he’s republican

This,, they aint gonna ignore this,, lol
Paul Krugman: “What’s his name again?”

Tea partier, Democrat, Republican or Independent, it makes no difference….. that’s the most idiotic Statement I’ve ever heard. The fact that it comes from someone headed to washington is utterly astonishing!!!! If an american news agency puts out american deemed illegal information then you shut them down and charge them with treason. YOU DO NOT CENSOR THEM BEFORE THE FACT!!!!! Read the constitution you dumbass!

Pokerdude777 said:
Tea partier, Democrat, Republican or Independent, it makes no difference….. that’s the most idiotic Statement I’ve ever heard. The fact that it comes from someone headed to washington is utterly astonishing!!!! If an american news agency puts out american deemed illegal information then you shut them down and charge them with treason. YOU DO NOT CENSOR THEM BEFORE THE FACT!!!!! Read the constitution you dumbass!

I couldn’t agree more than I do.

“Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter.”- Jefferson

Greg said:
And so it begins…

I fear you’re correct. Let’s hope West, who Michelle-in-Utah was touting as a member of the Republican ticket in 2012, is the kookiest of the kooks. I fear he may not be.

Pokerdude777 said:
Tea partier, Democrat, Republican or Independent, it makes no difference….. that’s the most idiotic Statement I’ve ever heard. The fact that it comes from someone headed to washington is utterly astonishing!!!! If an american news agency puts out american deemed illegal information then you shut them down and charge them with treason. YOU DO NOT CENSOR THEM BEFORE THE FACT!!!!! Read the constitution you dumbass!

This is the gut that Michelle – in – Utah wants for VP. She shared that on the article the other day. I would say she doesn’t have very good taste in men.

Yes, this is the same man who wanted the woman with the gun solution as his chief of staff. Fortunately, she decline the job after it all hit the media,

Another one of my states whack-jobs. Only in Florida!

BlackWidow said:
This is the gut that Michelle – in – Utah wants for VP. She shared that on the article the other day. I would say she doesn’t have very good taste in men.

Yes, this is the same man who wanted the woman with the gun solution as his chief of staff. Fortunately, she decline the job after it all hit the media,

Another one of my states whack-jobs. Only in Florida!

Well, you have to love Michelle-in-Utah, much as you have to love a pistachio.

Annnnnnnnnnnd the Tea Party kicks off their push for less government intrusion with…
…calls for heightened government intrusion, specifically regarding the 1st Amendment.

This *is* the same group that espouses “Constitutional Purity”, right?

there you go… here is a disgrace to the tea party and our country. We are so used to politicians breaking their promises after they are elected, but here you have someone, whose future you know already.

If you want to know the REAL reason for the tea parties, look at the last gasp Democrat spending bill that they are trying to force through at the last minute. This is another trillion dollar bill — 2,000 pages long, with $500 million in new spending on EACH PAGE. And the Democrats want to vote on it tomorrow, before anyone has a chance to figure out what is in it.

At some point, Mediaite (and the rest of the media) should cover these REAL issues driving the tea party, instead of searching for outrageous, unrepresentative comments by obscure people. Or is honest reporting not allowed?

Pablo said:
Wow. A combat vet thinks people who publish classified national security material should be dealt with harshly? Whoda thunk?

Clearly, he’s a racist.

felixw said:
If you want to know the REAL reason for the tea parties, look at the last gasp Democrat spending bill that they are trying to force through at the last minute. This is another trillion dollar bill — 2,000 pages long, with $500 million in new spending on EACH PAGE. And the Democrats want to vote on it tomorrow, before anyone has a chance to figure out what is in it.

At some point, Mediaite (and the rest of the media) should cover these REAL issues driving the tea party, instead of searching for outrageous, unrepresentative comments by obscure people. Or is honest reporting not allowed?

I hear what you are saying,, BUT,,
I dont think that’s Mediaite’s role,,
Their role is to bring us stuff that happens in the crazy world of media,,
NOT SO MUCH bring us the hard news
IF someone in the media comments on that 2,000 page, trillion dollar bill, monstrosity,, then that gives Mediaite an excuse to drag it here
i maybe wrong,, but ,,, yes?

The Real Royal King said:
That’s Tea Party thinking for you.

And The Real Royal Clucker just keeps clucking along

Atticus Draco said:
I hear what you are saying,, BUT,,
I dont think that’s Mediaite’s role,,
Their role is to bring us stuff that happens in the crazy world of media,,
NOT SO MUCH bring us the hard news
IF someone in the media comments on that 2,000 page, trillion dollar bill, monstrosity,, then that gives Mediaite an excuse to drag it here
i maybe wrong,, but ,,, yes?

Good mission statement there.

SmartAlec said:
And The Real Royal Clucker just keeps clucking along

Word. How many can appear on one thread ?

I think he can make that censorship thing happen. Doesn’t he have security clearance higher than Obama?

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/sep/24/allen-west/allen-west-says-he-has-clearance-even-president-un/

I am filled with confidence.

Michelle-In-Utah must be busy looking out her window, She hasn’t stopped by here to cheer on her VP pick for 2012

Atticus Draco said:
I hear what you are saying,, BUT,,
I dont think that’s Mediaite’s role,,
Their role is to bring us stuff that happens in the crazy world of media,,
NOT SO MUCH bring us the hard news
IF someone in the media comments on that 2,000 page, trillion dollar bill, monstrosity,, then that gives Mediaite an excuse to drag it here
i maybe wrong,, but ,,, yes?

I can see your point. Mediaite covers the media, so you can say that Mediaite is merely reflecting the media’s preferred slant on stories. But Mediaite should also aspire to being a watchdog on the media, and point out inconsistencies and hypocrisies. And no news story has been more misrepresented than the tea parties. The mainstream media refuses to mention the issues of fiscal responsibility and government accountability that have driven the tea parties, while building their story on some unrepresentative sign or unhinged comment. Mediaite would have more credibility if it occasionally pointed out this obvious bias.

You guys can say all you want about Assange but what happens when a Democrat says this about Fox News? Oh wait they already did and everyone flips out.

Why don’t both sides agree that censorship isn’t right?

And we can’t go and kill people that happen upon American intelligence, Assange didn’t steal it or pay for it, it was handed to him and as a journalist he published it.

End of story.

I thought the tea party movement was against big government… Now they want the government censoring all news? Downvote me or whatever but it seems to me like this guy wants to give the government more control. Even if it temporarily hurts the democrats, do you really want that? There must be some reasonable republicans besides Ron Paul, that don’t think the government controlling the news is a good idea. That would mean that whenever an administration came into power, they could effectively control public perception of events and twist them to appear good for the administration. Either side could do this…

Do you REALLY think that’s a good idea?

This is what happens when you elect a person based only on couple talking points.

The Tea Parties tunnel vision is dangerous.

I am heard on the African-American Conservative Radio Show saying the media should be censured- meaning “harshly criticized.” In no way would I ever ask to “censor” anyone or any organization. Of course, very few news organizations are even printing this reply so here it is for you so you understand my intention and my vision as a leader:

“It has never been my intent to quiet or censor the press or anyone for that matter utilizing their right of freedom of speech granted to them under this country’s great American Constitution. The confusion comes with the word censor…when I meant censure- in context that the media should be harshly criticized for printing the damaging documents Assange has released which so clearly puts our soldiers and country at risk.”

Allen West via Facebook, 12/14/2010, 1514hrs

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Jon Martin said:
Now they want the government censoring all news? Downvote me or whatever but it seems to me like this guy wants to give the government more control.

He wants to keep classified information classified. That’s stuff the government is supposed to be in control of. I’m not in agreement with his target, but I certainly appreciate the sentiment. And I can understand how, as a Batallion Commander in Iraq, he’s probably written an awful lot of classified communiques which it would really, really, really piss him off to have them fall into the wrong hands because some angry child decided to get his emo ya-ya’s out and strike a blow against mean old America. Because that could, you know, get his people killed.

Sometimes it helps to take a minute and see if you can figure out where somebody might be coming from. And it’s also helpful if you don’t make stuff up in your head and attribute it to another person like “Now they want the government censoring all news.”

rr98411 said:
I am heard on the African-American Conservative Radio Show saying the media should be censured- meaning “harshly criticized.” In no way would I ever ask to “censor” anyone or any organization. Of course, very few news organizations are even printing this reply so here it is for you so you understand my intention and my vision as a leader:

“It has never been my intent to quiet or censor the press or anyone for that matter utilizing their right of freedom of speech granted to them under this country’s great American Constitution. The confusion comes with the word censor…when I meant censure- in context that the media should be harshly criticized for printing the damaging documents Assange has released which so clearly puts our soldiers and country at risk.”

Allen West via Facebook, 12/14/2010, 1514hrs

Hmmm….

And I think that we also should be censoring the American news agencies which enabled him to do this and also supported him and applauding him for the efforts.

Yeah, censure makes more sense. How do you censor a news agency for doing stuff that isn’t reporting? Censure is no big deal. Ask Charlie Rangel.

Pablo said:
He wants to keep classified information classified. That’s stuff the government is supposed to be in control of. I’m not in agreement with his target, but I certainly appreciate the sentiment. And I can understand how, as a Batallion Commander in Iraq, he’s probably written an awful lot of classified communiques which it would really, really, really piss him off to have them fall into the wrong hands because some angry child decided to get his emo ya-ya’s out and strike a blow against mean old America. Because that could, you know, get his people killed.

Sometimes it helps to take a minute and see if you can figure out where somebody might be coming from. And it’s also helpful if you don’t make stuff up in your head and attribute it to another person like “Now they want the government censoring all news.”

How do you decide what is classified? and don’t you have any foresight to realize that this will be abused and probably be abused more than you could ever imagine?

Honestly your attitude is retarded and probably would help create a really fucked up country. State run media? Are you nuts?

They’re for the constitution, they are for the right to free speech….. well unless your saying something they don’t agree with……

the tea party speaks before the adoption of the bill of rights………..we will censure the press….we will destroy the constitution…..black man…black man…where do you come from…black man …black man…

Jon Martin said:
How do you decide what is classified?

We elect people who make laws about how that gets decided.

and don’t you have any foresight to realize that this will be abused and probably be abused more than you could ever imagine?

Having classified information? Sure, it’s been abused before. It will be abused again. I’m skeptical on the more than I could imagine part. Abuse of a practice doesn’t mean that the practice isn’t necessary, or that we should just stop worrying about keeping certain things under our hat. People abuse lots of things but that doesn’t make the things bad.

Honestly your attitude is retarded and probably would help create a really fucked up country. State run media? Are you nuts?

Again, it would help if you didn’t make things up in your head and pretend that I said them. In fact, it would help you most because you look really foolish doing it.

Incoming Tea Party Republican: ‘We Should Censor American News Agencies Which Enabled’ WikiLeaks

There you go, another Repub thats in love with progressivism and stifling american freedoms. You Republicans are just as stupid as the Democrats. LOL When will you people ever learn. Progressivism is alive in both party’s. They both want to take your money and your freedom., but you just keep voting them in…..

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Pablo said:
We elect people who make laws about how that gets decided.

Having classified information? Sure, it’s been abused before. It will be abused again. I’m skeptical on the more than I could imagine part. Abuse of a practice doesn’t mean that the practice isn’t necessary, or that we should just stop worrying about keeping certain things under our hat. People abuse lots of things but that doesn’t make the things bad.

Again, it would help if you didn’t make things up in your head and pretend that I said them. In fact, it would help you most because you look really foolish doing it.

You don’t understand that what you’re saying has been said before and failed and that’s why openness and transparency is best. Yes, I think confidential secrets are free game when they are leaked by accident. Your thinking is flawed.

Arthur (Not a Political Comic) said:
I believe that most of the sides, Liberal, Conservatism, Independent, etc. can pretty much all agree…No censorship. Is this the same guy who got the woman who said if the ballots don’t work, bullets will, or something along those lines to be the head of his office in Congress?

Fact: Correct no censorship but any leaking classified information is wrong from a source like a serviceman on duty. Newspapers can report all they want but not on need to know classified information. Period!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tevsyoxiV4
Video makes good points here!

Jon Martin said:
You don’t understand that what you’re saying has been said before and failed and that’s why openness and transparency is best. Yes, I think confidential secrets are free game when they are leaked by accident. Your thinking is flawed.

Fact: Thus the saying lose lips sink ships! What a jackoff!

Jon Martin said:
How do you decide what is classified?

Fact: It will have it on the holder that holds the material as well as on each page a classification rating of bold letters stating CLASSIFIED! Or Private or Confidential! All not for NYT or wikileaks. Period!

Nacho said:
The Tea Parties tunnel vision is dangerous

Fact: Tea party is the best hope for America to combat debt as well as it’s thoughts about security!
You are a danger!

Just4thefax said:
Fact: Tea party is the best hope for America to combat debt as well as it’s thoughts about security!
You are a danger!

You are a racist.

Why, West, why? I had such high hopes for ya and then you say somethin’ as boneheaded as that? Come on man!
Pfc. Bradley should be tried and executed for treason! Assange is a douche but I’m conflicted about what he did, or rather I’m conflicted due to his reasons for doing it. I’m not as conflicted that it happened because I think that it is a good thing in the sense that it cleans out our closets and allows us to start anew from a position of truth…if only the politicians weren’t around to screw all that up!!!

SarahP said:
You are a racist.

Oh well in that case, you win…wait, nope. What I meant to say was, that was an intelligent argument…er, wait, what?

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Rosey said:
Oh well in that case, you win…wait, nope. What I meant to say was, that was an intelligent argument…er, wait, what?

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Did you all even listen to the clip (including this web site)???? He referred to censured- meaning harshly criticize (think Charlie Rangle). Not censor–which is anti-constitutional. and against what West is for.

You liberals want to find something to demonize good, Constitutional American’s for. STOP THE CRAP AND THE LIES. We are all in this shit together. Like it or not. So, you can either assume positve intent, or be a socialist. Yes I am extreme, but at least you know where I stand. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

Nacho says:

This is what happens when you elect a person based only on couple talking points.

The Tea Parties tunnel vision is dangerous.

Correct, the teas put these types in office over their hate and crazy level. Censorship is something that should be left alone! The teas will spin this to be un-american if we don’t go along with the censorship! They cry consitution, loss of freedoms and rights, but they can’t give an example of the same, now they want to do,what they harp against!

I honestly can’t tell if he’s saying “censoring” or “censuring” because they could sound so much alike, but because the latter makes sense in the context of the sentence and it’s the one the speaker claims, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps next time, he’ll choose a different word.

SarahP said:
You are a racist.

Fact: You need to hold off on debating until you learn how!
http://www.bloggingfordummiesbook.com/blog/entry/blogging_for_dummies_3rd_edition_is_out/

Rosey said:
Why, West, why? I had such high hopes for ya and then you say somethin’ as boneheaded as that? Come on man!Pfc. Bradley should be tried and executed for treason! Assange is a douche but I’m conflicted about what he did, or rather I’m conflicted due to his reasons for doing it. I’m not as conflicted that it happened because I think that it is a good thing in the sense that it cleans out our closets and allows us to start anew from a position of truth…if only the politicians weren’t around to screw all that up!!!

Fact: That’s correct! Kick some liberals ass!

Fact: Just-elected Florida Republican Allen West will be headed to Congress in the New Year. Best of luck in office and cut spending for us!

Magister said:
I honestly can’t tell if he’s saying “censoring” or “censuring” because they could sound so much alike, but because the latter makes sense in the context of the sentence and it’s the one the speaker claims, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Perhaps next time, he’ll choose a different word.

It sounds like “censor” to me, but “censure” makes more sense in the context, and West seems to concede that he misspoke. I can’t believe that he had a pro-censorship position that he wanted to publicly advance, declared it intentionally, and then completely reversed himself almost immediately because the blogs started squawking (and lying) about it. You can’t reasonably not give him the benefit of the doubt. This article deserves an update.

Jon Martin said:
You don’t understand that what you’re saying has been said before and failed and that’s why openness and transparency is best.

What I’ve said has failed? We don’t have classified information anymore, and we’re all transparent? When did that happen?

Yes, I think confidential secrets are free game when they are leaked by accident. Your thinking is flawed.

That’s weird, because I am in lockstep with everything the Obama Administration has said about this topic. If my thinking is flawed, so is the thinking of Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, Robert Gibbs, James Jones and every other White House or Cabinet member that has spoken about it. If I’m wrong, then they’re wrong too. And you know who else is wrong? Barack Obama

Nevertheless, these cables could compromise private discussions with foreign governments and opposition leaders, and when the substance of private conversations is printed on the front pages of newspapers across the world, it can deeply impact not only US foreign policy interests, but those of our allies and friends around the world. To be clear — such disclosures put at risk our diplomats, intelligence professionals, and people around the world who come to the United States for assistance in promoting democracy and open government. These documents also may include named individuals who in many cases live and work under oppressive regimes and who are trying to create more open and free societies. President Obama supports responsible, accountable, and open government at home and around the world, but this reckless and dangerous action runs counter to that goal. By releasing stolen and classified documents, Wikileaks has put at risk not only the cause of human rights but also the lives and work of these individuals. We condemn in the strongest terms the unauthorized disclosure of classified documents and sensitive national security information.

If you’re disagreeing with the President during a time of war about the security of military and diplomatic classified material, you, according to what passes for logic in that dump you just took on the other thread are a TRAITOR. Also, you want your friends in the military to die while President Obama is trying to keep them safe. Now close your browser and go clean your room.

Pablo said:
It sounds like “censor” to me, but “censure” makes more sense in the context, and West seems to concede that he misspoke. I can’t believe that he had a pro-censorship position that he wanted to publicly advance, declared it intentionally, and then completely reversed himself almost immediately because the blogs started squawking (and lying) about it. You can’t reasonably not give him the benefit of the doubt. This article deserves an update.

Yeah, “Censoring” doesn’t make sense in the context of the sentence and while it does sound like he may be saying it, the words are too close and you do have to allow for the Florida via Georgia accent.

I say non-story, drummed-up by anti-Tea Partiests looking for dirt.

BTW – For the record: Neither of my comments on this matter should be seen as an endorsement of censuring. While I have a problem with cults of personalities in general, I support the Wikileaks’ mission and freedom of the press.

I think the jury is still out on this guy and I’m sure there will be more to come. West does seem to know how to play the game with his quick response and cutting loose that radical nutjob from his office.

Although I do not agree with his statement even if he meant censure, I do give him the benefit of the doubt for now, it does fit the context the rest of the statement. .

You know, it just occurred to me that this guy is a black man and he’s also a Tea Party candidate. Sort of takes all the air out of that “Tea Partiers are all racists” lie, doesn’t it?

jgraywolford said:
You liberals want to find something to demonize good, Constitutional American’s for. STOP THE CRAP AND THE LIES.

But lies are all they have.

Nahu Tuk says:

You know, it just occurred to me that this guy is a black man and he’s also a Tea Party candidate. Sort of takes all the air out of that “Tea Partiers are all racists” lie, doesn’t it?

The word “all” in the reference of racists, should be changed to “most,” since this is one black person out of thousands of hate filled uninformed teas!

Seig Heil!!

timcajun said:
Nahu Tuk says: You know, it just occurred to me that this guy is a black man and he’s also a Tea Party candidate. Sort of takes all the air out of that “Tea Partiers are all racists” lie, doesn’t it? The word “all” in the reference of racists, should be changed to “most,” since this is one black person out of thousands of hate filled uninformed teas!

I believe it has consistently been the liberals who said ALL Tea Partiers were racists.

Nahu Tuk says:

I believe it has consistently been the liberals who said ALL Tea Partiers were racists.

Again most, not all!

timcajun said:
Nahu Tuk says: I believe it has consistently been the liberals who said ALL Tea Partiers were racists. Again most, not all!

Tim, We shall, on occasion, disagree but respectfully so. Merry Christmas to you and yours!

timcajun said:
Again most, not all!

In reviewing your comments, you are correct “most” liberals claim Tea Party people are racists, which, as it seems you know, is INcorrect.

Re: “notice: if you’re on Julian Assange’s team, West wants to shut you down with some serious censorship.”

shut down nytimes/ bob woodward [all the president's men] /put in prison Ellsberg [pentagon papers]/ crooks of wall street/ presidents who escalate unjust wars/ presidents who start unjust wars/ fed who won’t “open their books”/bankers who rip-off their customers/ stop the fraud in medicare, medicaid/ put in jail those who vote more than once & are not citizens – AZ they don’t even have to prove citizenship to vote …… the list is endless…. but NO you want to censor journalism instead and kill the journalist who GETS OUT OF CONTROL.

and therefore you approve of lieberman huckabee palin and others who call for the “illegal murder” of Assange.
is that what america is about – censoring all that is not approved by USG [U.S. Government]?
most americans get their news from TV — they don’t read books – then they turn on idiot box, and text a thousand messages and eat-to-get-fat-w/diabetes-and-no-exercise no more nightly family dinners.
kids today have TVs & PCs cell-phones in their rooms……… both parents must work. crimes/drugs rampant in schools. jails so full the courts have to let-em-out just for space for new prisoners.

?censor journalism? I voted for you once – I will not vote for you twice.
and neither will i vote for sarah palin – who advocates the murder of Julian Assange.
that’s “incitement to commit murder” a/k/a FELONY.
obviously A West knows nothing about Assange either – you people should do your RESEARCH before you blindly accept the propaganda of USG & TV Media………. shame on you all.
how much more of TV Media should be censored?

So you think freedom of speech/press/journalism should be ended.

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