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Panel Nerds: Steve Martin Isn’t A Wild and Crazy Guy Anymore

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Who: Steve Martin, interviewed by Deborah Solomon
What: “Steve Martin with Deborah Solomon
Where: 92nd St. Y
When: November 29, 2010
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Midway through the Steve Martin’s discussion with Deborah Solomon, a 92Y representative walked onto the stage to hand Solomon a card. Not only did the audience wonder what the card said, Martin asked Solomon about it. She then told us all that she’d been instructed to ask more questions about Martin’s career instead of focusing exclusively on his new book, An Object of Beauty, as she had to that point. We’d never seen the interviewer pushed in a different direction with such a public display.

In all honesty, though, this was a necessary measure to take. As soon as Solomon announced her orders, the audience cheered, making it clear they wished to hear more about Martin, the actor, and less about Martin, the author. Most interesting, however, was the 25 minutes that followed which demonstrated Martin’s dismay, despite public pressure, to discuss his past roles and experiences. For Martin’s sake, Solomon’s instincts were right to keep to his current project and endeavors. But she, Martin, and the audience didn’t see eye to eye on what the event was supposed to be, one spectator even commenting afterward that “it was like they were somewhere we weren’t.”

So what did they talk about? Art. Martin’s new novel is set inside the New York City art world, a world that he became familiar with through the years dating back to his time exploring galleries, museums, and libraries while on tour in different American cities. To Martin’s credit, he seems to know a good deal about the subject – he can even talk at length about the differences between the “uptown” scene and the “downtown” scene in New York.

While intriguing at times, this discussion went on too long for many audience members who wished to hear more about the Martin they knew already. In this way, Solomon was too rigid, twice “catching” Martin talking about himself, instead of about the book, and quickly turning her – and in turn his – attention back to the novel. To her credit, once prompted, she did ask more general questions. She even tried to tie together all the various things Martin has done. Soon after, though, Solomon went back to asking questions about plot points and process to the novel. Their discussion ended with Martin admitting, after a heavily leading question about the structure of the book, “I never thought about it, and I don’t care about it.”

What They Said
“I assume the title doesn’t apply to you.”
- Deborah Solomon jokes that Steve Martin isn’t worthy of being called a thing of beauty

“Is this boring?”
- Steve Martin wonders aloud whether his interest in art speaks to the 92Y audience

“After you look at thousands of paintings you get a sense of what a good picture is.”
Steve Martin’s advice on how to become a better art critic and art lover

“I’ve had comic sex scenes and then I’ve had real sex scenes that just aren’t sexy.”
Steve Martin says that his acting roles have run the gamut

“You know what’s really hard? To tell a story well. What’s not so hard? To break the rules.”
- Steve Martin has shown a more serious side in recent decades

What We Thought

  • Solomon should have broken up the hour better. If she wanted to spend a good deal of time on the book, she could have. But moving onto other subjects is part of any good conversation, as Solomon should know from her time doing her The New York Times interviews.
  • It’s actually quite impressive how capably Martin is to bounce back and forth from acting pursuits, to musical ones, to literary ones. It’s one thing to have all those talents; it’s quite another to be able to fit into so many circles and groups. Martin seems to be well-liked by all of them, a true testament to his vast array of skills.

PANEL RULES!
Some audience behavior seems to repeat itself panel after panel. We’ll be updating a running list of “PANEL RULES!” that will help ensure that you are not the dweeb of the Panel Nerds.

Panel Nerds don’t like…Disrespecting Audience Questions
Because Solomon was so taken aback by the request to ask more general questions, she had a hard time taking a back seat to the audience-submitted questions. So when the first one atop the pile dealt with “Who is the real you?” Solomon preceded reading the question with a warning that Martin would “hate this question.” At that point, no matter what it asked, the question would be perceived as a dud. Martin did a fair job responding to it – offering some reflections about working with Meryl Streep and Alec Baldwin on It’s Complicated – but the damage had already been done. The person who wrote that question must have felt humiliated. It was a fair question to ask, and one that, we felt frankly, Solomon could have posed during her time.

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  • Big Eddie

    Bruce Springsteen once came to town , ( performing without his band ) , a bunch of new , depressing songs . He told the audience to sit still and listen . We wanted the old stuff . Not a fun night . ( Garden Party ) . … Steve Martin is a brilliant man . There’s nothing he can’t do well , and he works at every appearance . But , you want some of the old mixed in with the new stuff .

  • Harry Flashman

    As the old expression goes, you dance with the one that brung you.

    Comedy, especially stand-up and being the “wild and crazy guy”, brought Steve Martin from obscurity to where he is now. Without it no one would care that he wrote a book.

    Listen to a couple of his early albums. Funny, funny stuff, maybe even into the realm of comic genius. It would be a shame if Martin forgot who brought him to the dance.

  • Bronco46

    If Mr. Martin was booked for the interview based on the idea that he’d be able to talk about his book; this was a rude thing to pull. And just another sign of how little class is left in this country. I know reading is painful to many lately, but this is just the wrong thing to do to someone. If he wanted to talk comedy he would have gone on the Tonight show.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    Did the 92Y rep take it upon themselves to write the card or was it done at the direction of another?

    The link makes it appear that Martin was promoted as a multi-talented performer and his current book only gets a quick reference after a couple of other books, several of his films, his television writing and comic albums. In fact the paragraph is so chock-full of credits that his musical performances didn’t even rate a mention, so one assumes that the audience bought tickets to hear from the man and not just about his latest work.

  • Panel Nerds

    Magister,

    We got the impression that she was instructed by someone else to cut Solomon off and steer the discussion in a different direction. Solomon could have taken the comments in stride and kept them to herself and just obliged. Instead, she called attention to them the rest of the night, which only made the situation that much more uncomfortable. But at least the audience got 20 minutes of the questions they paid to hear posed.

  • http://twitter.com/SailRabbits Magister

    @Nerd(?): Yeah. Obviously I wasn’t there, but from your description, it sounds like Solomon could’ve simply showed Martin the card and went on, but because she was likely prepared to do the interview about the book and was so taken aback by the request, it took her out of the room and she threw up her hands for the rest.

    Another quick glance at the site doesn’t make it appear that she’s scheduled to do any more interviews in that venue, but any way you look at it, perhaps the experience will help her better go with the flow and teach her to think more about the audience’s expectations, first.

    PS) Somewhat off-topic, but I tweeted a YouTube of Martin performing “Atheists Don’t Have No Songs” with the Steel Canyon Rangers a couple weeks ago and because this post caused me to go back a re-view, I thought that I’d share.

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