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Rachel Maddow: Fox News Is A “McCarthyite Chamber Of Horrors”

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In a profile of Rachel Maddow, The Daily Beast‘s Howard Kurtz reveals how Maddow puts together her nightly show and also gets many comments praising the new “face of a cable network.” With Keith Olbermann gone, MSNBC is clearly looking to Maddow to lead the way and she seems eager to assume the position.

MSNBC’s President Phil Griffin says of Maddow, “she’s our biggest show . . . [she's] so friggin’ smart . . . Very few people can be so honest with a remark, a giggle, a serious look. There’s no performance art. That performance is Rachel.” Even conservative commentator and former co-worker Tucker Carlson has nice things to say about Maddow. Despite Maddow seemingly being pleasant to work with, one thing that isn’t different between her and Olbermann is a distrust of her cable news competition.

Maddow’s take on Glenn Beck‘s recent Muslim-related shows is that he is “running baroque conspiracies that are designed to freak people out about bogeymen coming to get them, conspiracies that are unsupported by the facts.” And her harshest blow is saved for the entire Fox News Channel, dismissing it as a “McCarthyite chamber of horrors . . . You can’t really call yourself a news channel if that’s what you broadcast.”

Kurtz notes that “Maddow’s repeated attacks have not provoked a response from Fox” yet maybe with her latest round of criticism things might change. Or maybe since Fox rarely acknowledged Olbermann’s comments, they plan on using a similar strategy against Maddow to help make her disappear too.

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  • Liberal Tormentor

    Maddow hates FOX. YAWN! Green ain’t your color Rachel, stick with black.

  • Pablo

    You can’t really call yourself a news channel if that’s what you broadcast.

    You can’t really call yourself a news network when what you broadcast is criticism of news networks.

    MSLSD is not a news network, etc.

  • BFD

    Did anyone find footage of that Fox drama queen Tobin being hit or is that just another one of their lies?

    ____________________________________________
    Day 20 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

  • The Lantern of Truth

    Hopefully Maddow will do more in depth reporting on Fox .

  • marigrace

    Mr. Maddow is mostly full of crap and as biased as they come. She constantly distorts or manipulates information to suit her left wing, moonbat agenda. Sometimes she out and out lies.

  • tatboy

    Quote: ““Maddow’s repeated attacks have not provoked a response from Fox” yet maybe with her latest round of criticism things might change.”

    …at least that’s what she’s hoping. Can anyone at MSNBC get ahead on their own merits or do they all have to leach of someone else’s success???

  • Probably NOT wrong

    BFD said:
    Did anyone find footage of that Fox drama queen Tobin being hit or is that just another one of their lies? ____________________________________________Day 20 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

    Uh OH!!!

  • BadGenome

    McCarthyite? It’s not on Fox News that I see talking heads questioning people’s patriotism. They only do that on MSDNC.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    That dumb Beck said the Communists were involved in the protests. That liar. How dumb can he be.
    Oh NO, he was right.

    Communists, socialists rallying support behind Madison protests
    By John Rossomando – The Daily Caller 1:27 PM 02/25/2011

    Communist and socialist groups — including the Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party, the Communist Party USA, Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party and the Democratic Socialists of America — are voicing their support for the public-sector unions protesting Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker’s plans to curtail their collective bargaining abilities.
    The communist and socialist groups have parroted many of the union talking points being used by the unions on their websites and in their publications, such as those accusing the governor of trying to break their unions. They have also compared Walker to former Egyptian dictator Hosni Mubarak.
    “Egypt, whose revolution has been a constant source of inspiration here, reflected in signs and chants — and Walker’s new nickname, Gov. Mubarak,” an article reads from the International Socialist Organization’s webzine.
    The webzine also describes the unions’ protest of Walker’s plans to force a vote on curtailing public-sector unions as “class war in Wisconsin” and as an affront to “the standard of living of working people.”
    The formerly Soviet-backed Communist Party USA (CPUSA) echoed similar talking points.
    “Using the deficit as a scare tactic, the right-wing corporate Republicans are on a fast track to defeat every initiative of the Obama administration, to destroy unions and public services at the federal, state and municipal level, and at the same time protect tax breaks for the richest few,” Joelle Fishman, chair of the CPUSA’s Political Action Commission, wrote in an article posted on her party’s website.
    Fishman went on to call on a “broad alliance of forces for social change (labor, racially oppressed, women, youth)” to reframe the debate for the 2012 elections.
    The website of the Socialist Workers Party’s newspaper, The Militant, bears a photo of a sign proclaiming “Walker is an enemy of the people.”
    Over in the Workers World Party’s newspaper Workers World, the presence of the student participants in the demonstrations is described as “as one of the most urgent tasks for young people at the moment.”
    This says a lot more about the unions’ political orientation than it does about these fringe groups that have thrown their support behind the union protesters, according to noted author and former communist-turned-conservative activist Ron Radosh.
    Radosh doesn’t believe the communist and socialist groups have been orchestrating the protests, but their willingness to speak the same language as the unions shows how far to the left the public-sector unions have moved.
    “Their positions are the same as the unions, and that’s not surprising,” Radosh said. “But if you try to prove or show the level of cooperation there, it is very difficult to show that.”
    At the same time, Radosh says both the communists and the unions have resorted to trotting out the same talking points communists and other radicals used in the 1930s.

  • Probably NOT wrong

    Doesn’t say much for “Phil Griffins” smarts.

  • Olby Sucks

    Dissent is healthy for our country during the Bush adminstration my boyfriend was in Iraq and I protested the illegitimate war,

    by color me a sock puppet on another thread

    Cindy? Gawd, what an idiot…

    Nice to see msnbc is still a “news” channel about Fox News. Keep up the good work, Fox!

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Maddow hates FOX. YAWN! Green ain’t your color Rachel, stick with black.

    Pablo said:
    You can’t really call yourself a news network when what you broadcast is criticism of news networks.

    MSLSD is not a news network, etc.

    Of course, you’re both rather missing the larger part of the article. I suspect you only read the headline and felt your need to emit something upon all of us.

    The issue of whether Ms. Maddow represents something of G2 of cable “news” is interesting. I seldom watch her show because I find it tedious at times and silly at times. But, there is a certain freshness in the graphics, in the organization and in the nature of the presentation. It’s not another stuffy, overbearing, angry middle aged man bloviating. Much as O’Van Susteren, who I find utterly insufferable, nonetheless led FOX “News” into the blogoshpere, Maddow may well be leading not only MSNBC and all cable “news” networks into an era more attuned to the under 65 crowd.

    The issue of what constitutes news in the cable “news” sphere is also a most interesting issue. There can be no question but that cable “news” across the span of American cable “news” networks is something of a misnomer. Clearly, FOX “News” has very little news during the day. And, such news as it has, outside of Shep, is much more in the nature of advocacy journalism than hard news. Kelly clearly blends rightist ideological zealotry with news, the former winning out when the latter doesn’t support her views, and Jarrett on the weekends, as shown in another thread, is simply a pathological liar who makes up facts to support his own rightist ideology. Similar arguments can be made about some MSNBC programming, to be sure, although the distinction between news and commentary at MSNBC is somewhat clearer. So, Ms. Maddow clearly raises a good and valid point for discussion, without reference to where that discussion ends.

    As for her comments about O’Beckerhead, I do think we have reached a point in which he and his work need to be repeatedly exposed to the harsh light of truth. To be sure, he is far less influential than his mentor, Father Coughlin, but he puts forth some dangerous concepts about which the innocent and pure of heart must be informed.

  • BFD

    BadGenome said:
    It’s not on Fox News that I see talking heads questioning people’s patriotism.

    If I had a nickle for every time O”Reilly and Hannity called someone un-American I would be rich.

    Bill call MSNBC un-American a week and a half ago.

    And don’t forget the 8 years of George Bush when pretty much everyone on the left was unpatriotic for not supporting him during wartime. Fox told me so.

  • Yukon Jack

    I usually watch all sources of news from BBC to CBC, from Al Jazzeera to RT.

    I stopped watching FOX, because whenever I tune into MSNBC, that is all they talk about.

  • tgk

    “Kurtz notes that “Maddow’s repeated attacks have not provoked a response from Fox” yet maybe with her latest round of criticism things might change.”

    But it apparently has elicited a response from her nutty followers in WI. So should Maddow be held responsible for inciting violence against Fox News?

  • The Real Royal King

    BadGenome said:
    McCarthyite? It’s not on Fox News that I see talking heads questioning people’s patriotism. They only do that on MSDNC.

    Not true, is it? During the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq, anyone who questioned the Neo-Cons’ thirst for the war was repeatedly demeaned as unpatriotic, particularly by O’Reilly and O’Hannity, but to a lesser extent even by O’Van Susteren, and after the occupation began to falter and more-and-more people question the W and Big Dick, Donnie and Condi policies, the unpatriotic label was thrown out constantly.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    If liberals couldn’t talk about FOX, Beck, Limbaugh, or Palin, they would have nothing to say. It’s sad really.

  • Yukon Jack

    BFD said:
    If I had a nickle for every time O”Reilly and Hannity called someone un-American I would be rich.

    Bill call MSNBC un-American a week and a half ago.

    And don’t forget the 8 years of George Bush when pretty much everyone on the left was unpatriotic for not supporting him during wartime. Fox told me so.

    If I had million dollars every time BFD contributes anything of value to any of these discussions, I’d be broke.

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    BadGenome said:
    It’s not on Fox News that I see talking heads questioning people’s patriotism.

    If I had a nickle for every time O”Reilly and Hannity called someone un-American I would be rich.

    Bill call MSNBC un-American a week and a half ago.

    And don’t forget the 8 years of George Bush when pretty much everyone on the left was unpatriotic for not supporting him during wartime. Fox told me so.

    Indeed, O’Reilly even has a recurring segment, “Pinheads and Patriots”. The pinheads are always unpatriotic.

  • BFD

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    If liberals couldn’t talk about FOX, Beck, Limbaugh, or Palin, they would have nothing to say. It’s sad really.

    LOL…those are YOUR leaders.

  • Yukon Jack

    Let the Queen of Whine ramble on. Let her out-Olbermann Olbermann. We see Olbermann’s preset as sweet pea’s future.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Rachel, I want to help you get over your addiction to FOX by giving you a tip for a great show. Why don’t you report on how it was the Socialists that got the permits for the union rally this weekend in DC. Now there’s a scoop for you!

  • The Real Royal King

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    If liberals couldn’t talk about FOX, Beck, Limbaugh, or Palin, they would have nothing to say. It’s sad really.

    Sure we would. Barbour’s homages to the Klan, Newt’s personal life, Walker’s lies, Vitter’s dirty diapers, Ensign’s affairs, O’Hannity’s toupee, Justice Thomas’ conflicts of interest, foreign policy, monetary policy, education reform, environmental policy, immigration policy, healthcare. Here in Texas alone, we liberals are often given to discussion of the Southern Literary Renascence, the authenticity of Glenn Gould’s variations, the tediousness of Ibsen resettings, &c.

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    Liberal Tormentor said:
    If liberals couldn’t talk about FOX, Beck, Limbaugh, or Palin, they would have nothing to say. It’s sad really.

    LOL…those are YOUR leaders.

    And, on behalf of centrists and liberals throughout America, we are most pleased you have shared them with us.

  • http://inyourfaceradio.net In Your Face Radio

    Eating up FOX for breakfast then spitting them out .. GO RACHEL!!

  • tgk

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Rachel, I want to help you get over your addiction to FOX by giving you a tip for a great show. Why don’t you report on how it was the Socialists that got the permits for the union rally this weekend in DC. Now there’s a scoop for you!

    They don’t care LT. Just went through an entire day of back and forth with a couple of folks on here in a couple of the Beck threads. It was Painful to say the least. I finally gave up.

  • ChrisNH

    I don’t know if MadCow kicks her cat, her mother, or what each day, but when you whine and rant about Fox News and nothing comes of it, something (or someone) must suffer. Every host on MSNBC must surely be guilty of animal cruelty or spousal abuse (called something else in MadCow’s case). MadCow, Olbermann, Schultz, O’Donnell: They all look like a danger to society. I do love seeing them livid with rage, though. Proof that their ideology is losing…and badly.

  • Penguin60

    BFD said:
    And don’t forget the 8 years of George Bush when pretty much everyone on the left was unpatriotic for not supporting him during wartime. Fox told me so.

    Wait a minute, hold on, OK I stopped laughing. Thanks for that. Made my morning. Just think about disagreeing with this administration and your stupid, redneck, racist, nazi……but not unpatriotic. Thanks again.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    You’re right tgk. The only reason I bring it up is so they don’t think we aren’t aware of what’s going on, even if the liberal media, Mediaite included, refuses to report on these things. It’s shameful, but entirely expected. The good news is the liberal media has lost ALL credibility.

  • BadGenome

    BFD said:
    If I had a nickle for every time O”Reilly and Hannity called someone un-American I would be rich.

    Bill call MSNBC un-American a week and a half ago.

    And don’t forget the 8 years of George Bush when pretty much everyone on the left was unpatriotic for not supporting him during wartime. Fox told me so.

    No, O’Reilly called them anti-American. Specifically, he said there were “strains of anti-Americanism” at MSNBC. Which is undeniably true when Dylan Ratigan can conduct such an utterly uncritical interview with Ted Rall, who was openly masturbating over his fantasies of violent revolution against… everyone who disagrees with him, seemingly.

  • BFD

    ChrisNH said:
    I do love seeing them livid with rage, though. Proof that their ideology is losing…and badly.

    Ummm…if you want to see rage watch Beck scream GO TO HELL or Greg Jarrett go ballistic because he is not universally beloved.

    If you want to see someone who is poised and calm watch Maddow.

  • notsofast

    It is so incredible that a network , MSNBC, does its entire programming based on what another network does.

    I can’t wait to see NBC Nightly News to follow MSNBC’s lead and do its 30 minute nightly news broadcast about Dianne Sawyer and Katie Couric.

  • BFD

    BadGenome said:
    No, O’Reilly called them anti-American.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    my bad. lolololol

  • notsofast

    Kurtz notes that “Maddow’s repeated attacks have not provoked a response from Fox” yet maybe with her latest round of criticism things might change.”

    I doubt it. She is totally irrelevant.

  • Olby Sucks

    BFD said:
    Ummm…if you want to see rage watch Beck scream GO TO HELL or Greg Jarrett go ballistic because he is not universally beloved.

    If you want to see someone who is poised and calm watch Maddow.

    MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann told Fox News’s Glenn Beck to “Go to hell!”

  • BadGenome

    BFD said:

    If you want to see someone who is poised and calm watch Maddow.

    Indeed. Her coverage of Scott Brown winning was amazing. I mean, yeah, she was visibly distraught and crying and stuff, but those were tears of professionalism!

  • Pablo

    gordonbloyershow said:
    That dumb Beck said the Communists were involved in the protests. That liar. How dumb can he be.
    Oh NO, he was right.

    Communists, socialists rallying support behind Madison protests
    By John Rossomando – The Daily Caller 1:27 PM 02/25/2011

    Guess who pulled the permit for the MoveOn.org/SEIU protest in DC?

    Drum roll, please….

    Despite MoveOn.org and SEIU taking a leading role — along with a number of other sponsors including the AFL-CIO, AFSCME, George Soros’ Media Matters, the Apollo Alliance and the Sierra Club — the National Park Service has confirmed that the Saturday rally’s permit was requested by and issued to the International Socialist Organization, a group committed to building a “future socialist society.

  • Dem4Ever

    Rachel, you are really quite pathetic and we pitty you dear.

  • notsofast

    BadGenome said:
    Indeed. Her coverage of Scott Brown winning was amazing. I mean, yeah, she was visibly distraught and crying and stuff, but those were tears of professionalism!

    So true, but lets not forget KO’s reaction:

    “In Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom he disagrees.”

    I wonder what ever happened to that Dbag, KO?

  • BFD

    LOL at Olby Sucks and BadGenome mentioning old incidents when we are talking about recent rage.

    Thanks for proving my point, boys.

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    BadGenome said:
    No, O’Reilly called them anti-American.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    my bad. lolololol

    A most subtle distinction, I have to say.

  • http://inyourfaceradio.net In Your Face Radio

    So this is where the neo right go for news … on MSNBC’s right wing test blog!! Let’s give a fake right wing party and see who shows up. Nice to see ya’s!!

  • Liberal Tormentor

    MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann told Fox News’s Glenn Beck to “Go to hell!”

    Actually Olby, he told the POTUS, Bush to “go to hell”. Image the outrage if Beck has said that to BO.

  • BatBoy

    From my perspective…MSNBC is the inentor of the “Chamber of Horrors”

  • notsofast

    BFD said:
    LOL at Olby Sucks and BadGenome mentioning old incidents when we are talking about recent rage.

    Thanks for proving my point, boys.

    LOL

    And you libs still talk about Bush, son!

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    Did anyone find footage of that Fox drama queen Tobin being hit or is that just another one of their lies?

    ____________________________________________
    Day 20 since Henny Glenny was struck by an overwhelming feeling that Egypt is the beginning of a growing evil that is going to spread a global Muslim caliphate and with the help of the communists and progressives create a New World Order ending our way of life as we know it.

    I am assuming the camera man had to take a leak just as the blow came. I can’t really think of any other explanation. Well, it didn’t happen, of course, would be another explanation. It did strike me as something like a fake play, when all the cameras are on the player they think has the ball and the actual receiver is sprinting into the end zone. Not quite as professional as that, however.

  • BadGenome

    BFD said:
    LOL at Olby Sucks and BadGenome mentioning old incidents when we are talking about recent rage.

    Thanks for proving my point, boys.

    Yes, because she’s a completely different person than she was one year ago. Why, a couple of months ago, Jon Stewart broke it to her as gently as possible that she is just as bad as Sean Hannity, and she (just barely) managed not to burst into tears! What poise!

  • The Real Royal King

    notsofast said:
    MSNBC, does its entire programming based on what another network does.

    That’s not true. “Lock-Up Indiana” didn’t even mention FOX “News”. At least, I wouldn’t think so.

  • Olby Sucks

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann told Fox News’s Glenn Beck to “Go to hell!”

    Actually Olby, he told the POTUS, Bush to “go to hell”. Image the outrage if Beck has said that to BO.

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/04/keith-olbermann-tells-glenn-beck-9-12ers-go-hell

  • The Real Royal King

    Olby Sucks said:
    MSNBC’s Keith Olbermann told Fox News’s Glenn Beck to “Go to hell!”

    O’Beckerhead seems to be following that advice.

  • Hugo Daun

    The Real Royal King said:
    Of course, you’re both rather missing the larger part of the article. I suspect you only read the headline and felt your need to emit something upon all of us.

    And they’ll post practically the identical comments on just about EVERY article that has anything to do with MSNBC, CNN, or any other network/periodical from the dreaded “liberal media”.

  • TfT

    Oh my oh my oh my

    Rachel comes up with a new criticism of FNC. She must be so smart to come up with this new expression of hatred for FNC.

    What a hoot….no Howie, as much as you would like to see a battle brtyween FNC and MSNBC, it ain’t gonna happen. FNC laughs at MSNBC for all the attention and viewers MSNBC brings to FNC, and CNN hasn’t been the benefit of it in the past and won’t be in the future.

    How new for Rachel – she is just so smart…..

    Really MSNBC, get a life.

    Too funny, and for mediaite it highlight it here…..reallly mediaite, get a grip. MSNBC criticizing FNC is NOT news worthy.

  • tgk

    Hugo Daun said:
    And they’ll post practically the identical comments on just about EVERY article that has anything to do with MSNBC, CNN, or any other network/periodical from the dreaded “liberal media”.

    Yes, get on your soap box there guys. Cause in EVERY single Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin thread you all stay on topic and NEVER say the same things over and over do you? Give me a break!

  • Yukon Jack

    The Real Royal King said:
    I am assuming the camera man had to take a leak just as the blow came. I can’t really think of any other explanation. Well, it didn’t happen, of course, would be another explanation. It did strike me as something like a fake play, when all the cameras are on the player they think has the ball and the actual receiver is sprinting into the end zone. Not quite as professional as that, however.

    Or, perhaps the cameraman was given a little shove by some innocent protester. After all there were only outnumbering the FOX news gathering crew by about 300 or more to 1.

  • BFD

    Recent Fox lies…

    I’VE BEEN HIT!

    THEY ARE ALL REFORM JEWS, EVERY ONE!

    WISCONSIN POLL NUMBERS REVERSED

    RON PAUL CPAC CLIP MISLABELED

  • Yukon Jack

    The Real Royal King said:
    That’s not true. “Lock-Up Indiana” didn’t even mention FOX “News”. At least, I wouldn’t think so.

    Funny you should mention “Lock-up”.

    The TV station that claim to be “The Place For Politics” turns off politics for almost the entire weekend and the only relation to politics is that they feature the future residences of their anchors, and commentators and, of course, their DemocRAT masters.

  • Hugo Daun

    tgk said:
    Yes, get on your soap box there guys. Cause in EVERY single Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin thread you all stay on topic and NEVER say the same things over and over do you? Give me a break!

    First of all, I’m only ONE guy (no multiple accounts here) and I was referring to the two SPECIFIC people whom RRK was addressing in his post, not all members of any particular group, so no need to get your dainties all tangled, little fella.

    And more importantly, this article is about Rachel Maddow/MSNBC, NOT Beck or Palin, so try to stay focused, dude.

  • BFD

    Yukon Jack said:
    Funny you should mention “Lock-up”.

    The TV station that claim to be “The Place For Politics” turns off politics for almost the entire weekend and the only relation to politics is that they feature the future residences of their anchors, and commentators and, of course, their DemocRAT masters.

    The funny part is the Fox has been emulating MSNBC and running more and more crime documentaries on weekends.
    Of course all this is happening between the award-winning breaking news of their Beck reruns.

    How many times do they rerun Geraldo, Huckabee and Beck each weekend. 7? 8? 12?

  • The Real Royal King

    BFD said:
    THEY ARE ALL REFORM JEWS,

    At the risk of be labeled a picayune prick, I believe FOX “News” calls them “Reformed” Jews.

  • Yukon Jack

    TfT said:
    Oh my oh my oh my

    Rachel comes up with a new criticism of FNC. She must be so smart to come up with this new expression of hatred for FNC.

    What a hoot….no Howie, as much as you would like to see a battle brtyween FNC and MSNBC, it ain’t gonna happen. FNC laughs at MSNBC for all the attention and viewers MSNBC brings to FNC, and CNN hasn’t been the benefit of it in the past and won’t be in the future.

    How new for Rachel – she is just so smart…..

    Really MSNBC, get a life.

    Too funny, and for mediaite it highlight it here…..reallly mediaite, get a grip. MSNBC criticizing FNC is NOT news worthy.

    Exactly!! The folks at FOX look at the dwarfs at MSNBC as the midgets who snapped jaw-bones at Samson.

    Jaw-bones of asses. Luckily for the MSNBC commentators they don’t even have to ask for help from the equine members of the animal kingdom. They already have it locked, front and end.

  • Cactus

    TfT said:
    Too funny, and for mediaite it highlight it here…..reallly mediaite, get a grip. MSNBC criticizing FNC is NOT news worthy.

    Get a grip. Mediaite is rather a media blog. The host of one media outlet attacking another media outlet is, stunningly, exactly what a blog calling itself “Mediaite” ought to cover, and what its regulars come to read. Might as well go to Engadget.com and complain that a Google executive making fun of Apple isn’t “newsworthy”.

    If you’d rather stick to what’s “newsworthy”, you have hundreds of fine news sites custom-fit to your worldview.

  • Yukon Jack

    BFD said:
    The funny part is the Fox has been emulating MSNBC and running more and more crime documentaries on weekends.
    Of course all this is happening between the award-winning breaking news of their Beck reruns.

    How many times do they rerun Geraldo, Huckabee and Beck each weekend. 7? 8? 12?

    As usual your contribution has the value of 0.

    Do you even know the difference between FOX news channel and FOX network?

    BTW, speaking of reruns, O’Reilley reruns have more viewers at 5:00 AM than this semi-female pretender has at prime time.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Rachel makes things up too, though.

    “There’s a budget surplus in WI.”

    “There’s a budget shortfall in WI.”

    And that’s just from one segment. Fox and MSNBC do the exact same thing, just to different demos.

  • Yukon Jack

    Rachel Maddow would be wise (is that even possible?????) to remember that if Joseph McCarthy had been any less successful, she might have to be spewing her garbage in Russian? If she even could??

  • BlueBunny

    FOX ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL THE PLACE TO GO FOR LIES!

  • The Real Royal King

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Rachel makes things up too, though.

    “There’s a budget surplus in WI.”

    “There’s a budget shortfall in WI.”

    And that’s just from one segment. Fox and MSNBC do the exact same thing, just to different demos.

    To my devoted fans, colleagues and friends, the despicable and ignorant Kumquat, known to some of you as Writer, The Real Royal Knig, the Real Royal Queen and Lantern of Truth, and a host of other names has once again stolen my name and my avatar. But then, you all know what a lying POS he is.

  • tgk

    Hugo Daun said:
    First of all, I’m only ONE guy (no multiple accounts here)

    K. You do realize that you were responding to another poster which then makes it a plural right? I.e., one plus one equals 2 which is more than one, hence “guys”

    Hugo Daun said:
    And more importantly, this article is about Rachel Maddow/MSNBC, NOT Beck or Palin, so try to stay focused, dude.

    However, your comment (to which I was responding)

    was not about Maddow/MSNBC though was it?

    Hugo Daun said:
    little fella, dude

    Wrong

  • The Real Royal King

    Yukon Jack said:
    Rachel Maddow would be wise (is that even possible?????) to remember that if Joseph McCarthy had been any less successful, she might have to be spewing her garbage in Russian? If she even could??

    I believe Ms. Maddow is a polyglot.

    And, I don’t believe Tail Gunner Joe ever ferreted out a single Communist who was any danger to us.

  • tgk

    Should have read: However, your comment (to which I was responding) was not about Maddow/MSNBC

  • http://inyourfaceradio.net In Your Face Radio

    So this is where the neo right go for news … on MSNBC’s right wing test blog!! Let’s give a fake right wing party and see who shows up. Nice to see ya’s!!

    It doesn’t make it LESS TRUE cause you don’t like it… ROFL!! Oh please – let it not be true .. ROFL!!

  • writer

    I’m glad to see MSNBC is getting over their obsession of covering Fox.

  • DEFENDER-90

    On the behalf of the GOOD people of Castro Valley ,fomer friends,acquaintances and nabors.I would like to apologize for the nightmare that is Rachel Maaaaddow.

    Rachel you should have stayed with volleball you were so good at it.
    Hell you were offered a scholarship to play. IT would have savid us much embarrassment if you did.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    But Royal Dimwit, it was so funny to you libs when somene stole my identity.

  • Yukon Jack

    The Real Royal King said:
    I believe Ms. Maddow is a polyglot.

    And, I don’t believe Tail Gunner Joe ever ferreted out a single Communist who was any danger to us.

    Maybe not (I am not in the mood to do any research to refute you) but it sure scared the heck out of them, and sent them into hiding, until the Presidential Election of 2008.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    And, I don’t believe Tail Gunner Joe ever ferreted out a single Communist who was any danger to us.

    Really?

    How about Lauchlin Currie, an assistant to FDR? Owen Lattimore, Foreign Policy Adviser to FDR?

  • writer

    The poor left. Their televisions are all stuck on Fox, and the remotes aren’t working. Even unplugging the set doesn’t help. They’re just forced to watch, and that’s all there is to it.

  • notsofast

    The Real Royal King said:
    To my devoted fans, colleagues and friends, the despicable and ignorant Kumquat, known to some of you as Writer,

    I was wondering why your were getting thumbs up!

  • BFD

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    But Royal Dimwit, it was so funny to you libs when somene stole my identity.

    I don’t think anyone stole it, I just think you have had so many you forgot who you were.

  • BlueBunny

    FOX THE ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL THAT LIES AND SPREADS HATE AND FEAR TO THE MORONS WHO WATCH!

  • Yukon Jack

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    But Royal Dimwit, it was so funny to you libs when somene stole my identity.

    Stealing identity should not be allowed to happen. I hereby encourage the sponsors of this website to introduce software to prevent it.

    Another despicable practice, used by despicable people is to edit quotes by others, usually to fit their own twisted ideas. This should be made impossible by appropriate software..

  • BlueBunny

    BFD said:
    I don’t think anyone stole it, I just think you have had so many you forgot who you were.

    HAHAHAHA TRUTH TO POWER!

  • Yukon Jack

    One more thing the sponsors of this website should do: Automatically delete any and all posts all in capital letters.

  • BlueBunny

    Yukon Jack said:
    edit quotes by others

    YOU HAVEN’T BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH FOR ANYONE TO CARE! LIBERAL TORMENTOR IS A MASTER AT THIS! IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT HERE OLD MAN GO ELSEWHERE!

  • Hugo Daun

    tgk said:
    K. You do realize that you were responding to another poster which then makes it a plural right? I.e., one plus one equals 2 which is more than one, hence “guys”

    K. You DO realize that you quoted ONLY me, and that RRK had not even replied to me, right? I.e. one comment quoted from one person equals one, hence you’re an idiot.

    tgk said:
    However, your comment (to which I was responding) was not about Maddow/MSNBC though was it?

    Yes, actually it WAS…more specifically, it referred to the redundant comments of certain posters to articles about “MSNBC, CNN, or any other network/periodical from the dreaded “liberal media”.”

    Even had it not, my comment was CERTAINLY not about Beck or Palin…and neither is this article.

    Finally, if you are actually female, I’ll admit that referring to you as “dude” or “fella” was wrong. Unless, of course you happen to be Rachel Maddow, right?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Yukon Jack said:
    One more thing the sponsors of this website should do: Automatically delete any and all posts all in capital letters.

    I agree completely. Except when I do it, of course. Those of us with “King” in their username should be exempt from such plebeian restrictions.

  • Penguin60

    BlueBunny said:
    FOX THE ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL THAT LIES AND SPREADS HATE AND FEAR TO THE MORONS WHO WATCH!

    Obviously Rachel and the rest of the lemmings at MSDNC are tuned in. Good call!

  • Calvin

    BFD said:
    If you want to see someone who is poised and calm watch Maddow.

    Not to mention, extremeley mature and sincere.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Smith/100001699355038 John Smith

    Most all cable and television “news” (that word is a stretch) has degenerated into partisan vomit. Fox is full of mad-dog right-wingers and MSNBC is full of mad-dog left-wingers. Come online and you see the crazy wing-nuts trying to screw their particular brand of wing-nut politics onto every thread and be rude and disrespectful in the process. The real losers here are normal people who can’t think straight because of the constant screeching and screaming of the right- and left-wingers in the frothing-mouth asylum.

    We need to pass a law in this country which requires anyone who watches Fox or MSNBC to be forcibly medicated and handcuffed to a beam in the basement. Then they can whimper quietly and out of hearing, and they can cultivate their delusions without imposing their insanity on the rest of us.

  • writer

    Someone stole the King’s identity once. But when they saw how psychotic he is, they brought it back.

  • DEFENDER-90

    FOX NEWS LIES – FOX NEWS LIES- POLLY WANTS A CRACKER- FOX NEWS LIES- PRETTY BIRD-FOX NEWS LIES.

  • Dem4Ever

    Hey Rachel, we are bored with your “attack everything Fox” strategy/format. Can’t you come up with something new? Dang lady, you and your show are both, just the same old soup warmed over. Blah!

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Calvin said:
    Not to mention, extremeley mature and sincere.

    I think you mean “extwemwey”.

    God, she WAS mad there, wasn’t she? I’ve lost track of how many of these “setting the record straight” segments she’s had to run now, but for a Rhodes Scholar, she sure has trouble fact-checking whatever the producers have loaded up in her teleprompter this week.

  • writer

    The left all hate Fox, yet they all watch it. It almost doesn’t make sense.

  • same2u

    “McCarthyite Chamber Of Horrors”

    mAnn Coulter and the typical Fox News viewer consider Joe McCarthy a patriot, so they will consider this a compliment.

  • im_lovin_it

    writer said:
    The left all hate Fox, yet they all watch it. It almost doesn’t make sense.

    Wait I don’t know what to do. I get told to watch Fox so I know what I’m talking about when I say it sucks. Now you’re telling me not to watch it if I think it sucks. I”m confuzzzzed……

  • Calvin

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    I think you mean “extwemwey”.

    Heh.

  • BlueBunny

    DEFENDER-90 said:
    FOX NEWS LIES – FOX NEWS LIES- POLLY WANTS A CRACKER- FOX NEWS LIES- PRETTY BIRD-FOX NEWS LIES.

    GLAD YOU AGREE! KEEP DEFENDING IT!

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Yukon says:

    Stealing identity should not be allowed to happen. I hereby encourage the sponsors of this website to introduce software to prevent it.

    If he wasn’t a Dimwit, he could figure out how to stop it like I did. Unfortunately, his dimwittery prevents it.

  • writer

    im_lovin_it, I see where you’re coming from. I always make sure and watch programs I hate.

  • Calvin

    The Royal Spelling and Grammar Czar strikes again. What an honour.

  • writer

    Lefties, I think you know by now that Fox isn’t going to be saying things you like. That’s what MSNBC is for. You’ve watched Fox enough now. You can stop aggravating yourselves.

  • im_lovin_it

    Writer,

    Me: Glenn Beck is full of it.
    Response: YOU DON”T EVEN WATCH HIS SHOW! HOW WOULD YOU KNOW!?!! LIBTAAAAARD!!!!!

  • DEFENDER-90

    @ Im_Lovin_it–” Im confuzzzzed” BINGO!

  • same2u

    writer said:
    You’ve watched Fox enough now

    I watch it enough to simply reinforce my opinions about how corrupt they are. This is still less than CNN or MSNBC.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Jesus Christ, the obsession with Fox News by the whacky left is bordering on psychosis. Don’t give anyone at msnbc any sharp objects. :)

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Jesus Christ, the obsession with Fox News by the whacky left is bordering on psychosis. Don’t give anyone at msnbc any sharp objects. :)

    That’s just the weekend programming.

    Speaking of which, did they totally skip To Catch a Predator reruns or did I totally miss it?

  • writer

    im_lovin_it, good for you. You are now aware that Fox isn’t a left wing network like MSNBC. We know you hate Fox. You can stop watching now.

  • justanotherconservative

    i wish she would disappear. her face, voice, attitude make me cringe when i flip past it.

  • Yukon Jack

    Dem4Ever said:
    Hey Rachel, we are bored with your “attack everything Fox” strategy/format. Can’t you come up with something new? Dang lady, you and your show are both, just the same old soup warmed over. Blah!

    Based on her blind devotion to her(?) mentor, whom she attempts to emulate and replace, I say, let her(?) go ahead! We all know what happened to Olbermann, with a new management displaying sober and reasonable mindset.

    Why try to avoid the inevitable.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    same2u said:
    I watch it enough to simply reinforce my opinions about how corrupt they are. This is still less than CNN or MSNBC.

    Then go back to watching “Will & Grace” re-runs, dumb ass. If Fox reported that the Earth goes around the sun, or that two plus two equaled four, you’d still be chanting “Fox Lies”, because you’re a puppet.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    writer says:
    Someone stole the King’s identity once. But when they saw how psychotic he is, they brought it back.

    Seriously, it’s hard to even pretend to be that crazy!

  • Penguin60

    writer said:
    Lefties, I think you know by now that Fox isn’t going to be saying things you like. That’s what MSNBC is for. You’ve watched Fox enough now. You can stop aggravating yourselves.

    Ha, they must be masochistic. I know when I’ve had enough of MSDNC, I turn the channel, pretty easy. They rail about how much Fox lies, how stupid the people are that watch, but they continue to tune in. I guess the chains, handcuffs and mouth ball gag just aren’t doing it for them anymore.

  • Hugo Daun

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    If Fox reported that the Earth goes around the sun…

    But, how did the sun get there?

    Who put it there?

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • writer

    We give up, Hugo. How did it get there?

  • im_lovin_it

    writer said:
    Lefties, I think you know by now that Fox isn’t going to be saying things you like. That’s what MSNBC is for. You’ve watched Fox enough now. You can stop aggravating yourselves.

    I think there is something important to note here. I’d be willing to be that if MSNBC folded up and was canceled as of March 1, 2011, the lefties would not care. I wouldn’t. I don’t watch. Why do I need a channel that I know is telling me what I already think? How does getting a skewed message help me fortify my own beliefs with credible facts and information? Why do I need a report on what another news channel is doing after I already made up my mind I don’t trust said news channel? Perhaps some people might pour one out in remembrance, but I bet Liberalism would get along just fine without MSNBC.

    …..and yes, I know, that’s because every other source in the entire world has a liberal bias as well. Except Fox News. Right?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Hugo Daun said:
    But, how did the sun get there?

    Who put it there?

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    It’s like a toaster. Bread goes in. Toast comes out. Can’t explain that!

  • illusive man

    Rachel Maddow slandered a congressman by falsely claiming he had previous knowledge of the oklahoma city bombing but failed to report it. The fact she was not fired or prosecuted for this CRIME is absolute proof that she doesn’t report the news or gives commentary, But is nothing more than a propagandist that uses her intelligence to influence and manipulate the sheep that will jump in front of a train in order to defend her villainous way’s. Go ahead sheep, Defend her by bringing up the fact she is a rhodes scholar or how she is “In the constant pursuit of truth”. I know you prog’s will, you’re programing will not let you do anything els.

  • Yukon Jack

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    Yukon says:

    Stealing identity should not be allowed to happen. I hereby encourage the sponsors of this website to introduce software to prevent it.

    If he wasn’t a Dimwit, he could figure out how to stop it like I did. Unfortunately, his dimwittery prevents it.

    Liberal Tormentor, much as I like and agree with your posts, this was a low blow. Some people who post here are NOT computer experts. And they are not accustomed to be targets of self-declared high and mighty experts, such as yourself.

    I should not have to know how to prevent identity theft. I would always know it , however. Those who resort to theft – identity or otherwise are always low grade semi-illiterates and their style of expressing themselves would always reveal who they really are.

  • writer

    im_lovin_it, if someone else is getting a message you disagree with, why do you care? And MSNBC isn’t the only one that will agree with your views. NBC or Katie Couric will too. Out of so many that will agree with you, why worry so much about the one that doesn’t?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    illusive man said:
    Rachel Maddow slandered a congressman by falsely claiming he had previous knowledge of the oklahoma city bombing but failed to report it.

    Gasp! Are you saying that msnbc lies? No way!

    One of my favorite Maddow clips, this things a hoot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0

  • im_lovin_it

    writer said:
    im_lovin_it, if someone else is getting a message you disagree with, why do you care? And MSNBC isn’t the only one that will agree with your views. NBC or Katie Couric will too. Out of so many that will agree with you, why worry so much about the one that doesn’t?

    I don’t really worry about what Fox does at all. I watch Fox from time to time. I listened to Laura Ingraham this morning (she’s PISSED some repubs seem to have a “I’ll wait till ’16″ approach). I very rarely might catch some of Rachel Maddow. I know they’re slanted, but oh well, I don’t have to believe everything they say.

    My problem is that there are millions of people who religiously depend on FNC for information despite it being repeatedly shown as a less than accurate source. Bill O’Reilly himself even said FNC has a bias. So if people want to watch Fox, or MSNBC, fine. More power to you. Just don’t let sources like that be your only source of news and don’t always swallow it whole.

  • Hugo Daun

    writer said:
    We give up, Hugo. How did it get there?

    About 6000 years ago, an invisible dude with superpowers put it there…that’s the only sensible explanation.

  • writer

    Hugo, that’s just silly. I prefer to think that everything just magically appeared from a big bang. That explains it much better.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Yukon Jack said:
    Liberal Tormentor, much as I like and agree with your posts, this was a low blow. Some people who post here are NOT computer experts. And they are not accustomed to be targets of self-declared high and mighty experts, such as yourself.

    I should not have to know how to prevent identity theft. I would always know it , however. Those who resort to theft – identity or otherwise are always low grade semi-illiterates and their style of expressing themselves would always reveal who they really are.

    I do declare, I resemble that remark!

  • Hugo Daun

    writer said:
    Hugo, that’s just silly. I prefer to think that everything just magically appeared from a big bang. That explains it much better.

    Do you typically attribute things you don’t understand to magic?

  • im_lovin_it

    writer said:
    im_lovin_it, if someone else is getting a message you disagree with, why do you care? And MSNBC isn’t the only one that will agree with your views. NBC or Katie Couric will too. Out of so many that will agree with you, why worry so much about the one that doesn’t?

    Furthermore, I don’t want to be in some agree/disagree battle with news sources. Why can’t the news just be the news? I guess it’s just too boring. Nobody wants boring old facts. People want action and controversy. FAST! LOUD! WOW! AWESOME! YOU SUCK! OMG!!!! I’M GONNA KICK YOU IN THE NUTZ!!! LOLOLOLOL!!!

  • cjd ohio 1

    Hugo Daun said:
    Do you typically attribute things you don’t understand to magic?

    like the big bang?

  • Olby Sucks

    The Real Royal King said:
    To my devoted fans, colleagues and friends, the despicable and ignorant Kumquat, known to some of you as Writer, The Real Royal Knig, the Real Royal Queen and Lantern of Truth, and a host of other names has once again stolen my name and my avatar. But then, you all know what a lying POS he is.

    We should believe you, why? Pfft!

    A proven namejacker accusing someone else of jacking her name. ROFL!

  • writer

    Hugo, could you explain where the material came from to make the bang, and what caused it to bang in the first place? Since the big bang is scientific, and the idea of a supreme being is silly, we’d like some answers.

  • RichS

    Hugo Daun said:
    But, how did the sun get there? Who put it there? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    What happened one pico-second before the big bang?

    How big is the universe and what is beyond the universe?

  • Hugo Daun

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    like the big bang?

    Yes, it seems that “writer” believes magic played some part in the “big bang”.

  • tatboy

    BFD said:
    Recent Fox lies… I’VE BEEN HIT! THEY ARE ALL REFORM JEWS, EVERY ONE! WISCONSIN POLL NUMBERS REVERSED RON PAUL CPAC CLIP MISLABELED

    Rachel Maddow…

    Repub. recieved fax of OK City bombing BEFORE the bombing.

    WI is projected to have a budget surplus.

  • writer

    im_lovin_it, there again, if someone else likes Fox and you don’t, why do you care?

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Yukon says:

    Liberal Tormentor, much as I like and agree with your posts, this was a low blow. Some people who post here are NOT computer experts. And they are not accustomed to be targets of self-declared high and mighty experts, such as yourself.

    HAHA, I’m no where near a computer expert, I just complained to Mediaite.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Hugo Daun said:
    Yes, it seems that “writer” believes magic played some part in the “big bang”.

    as do you sir

  • writer

    Hugo, the ‘magic’ part was satire. But we all breathlessly await your explanation of how this bang came about. What was it that banged, and what caused it to bang?

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    writer said:
    Hugo, the ‘magic’ part was satire. But we all breathlessly await your explanation of how this bang came about. What was it that banged, and what caused it to bang?

    How was god created? He coudln’t have been created from nothing… so if you can’t explain where god came from, then you can’t try to pick at the Big Bang.

    We have more proof of the big bang than we ever will of god. You can say earth is proof or the bible is proof, but when you get down to brass tacks… you can’t prove god had anything to do with earth, the earth just exists, the bible was just written by someone, so really you have no proof of god, except for hallucinations by people thousands of years ago (that lived in the desert)..

    So really, you’re going to call him out on the big bang? Get a clue religtard.

  • Yukon Jack

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    I do declare, I resemble that remark!

    Hey, Punk. mean Your Majesty, is there anything of value you might try to contribute to this forum???

  • DEFENDER-90

    WRITER! You do know you are engeging in a debate,conversation with someone who gets there NEWS,VIEWS from HIGH TIMES right.

  • writer

    But conversely, Snowspot, you can’t explain how the big bang occurred. Where’d the material come from? Why did it bang? I’m not saying the big bang didn’t occur. I’m just saying that you lefties love mocking religion, but you don’t know the answers either. Saying there’s a supreme being sounds no more far out than saying that something banged.

  • cjd ohio 1

    Snowspot said:
    How was god created? He coudln’t have been created from nothing… so if you can’t explain where god came from, then you can’t try to pick at the Big Bang. We have more proof of the big bang than we ever will of god. You can say earth is proof or the bible is proof, but when you get down to brass tacks… you can’t prove god had anything to do with earth, the earth just exists, the bible was just written by someone, so really you have no proof of god, except for hallucinations by people thousands of years ago (that lived in the desert).. So really, you’re going to call him out on the big bang? Get a clue religtard.

    lol

  • cjd ohio 1

    writer said:
    But conversely, Snowspot, you can’t explain how the big bang occurred. Where’d the material come from? Why did it bang? I’m not saying the big bang didn’t occur. I’m just saying that you lefties love mocking religion, but you don’t know the answers either. Saying there’s a supreme being sounds no more far out than saying that something banged.

    exactly

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    BFD said:
    And don’t forget the 8 years of George Bush when pretty much everyone on the left was unpatriotic for not supporting him during wartime. Fox told me so.

    Why don’t you list just ONE time when someone said that anyone was unpatriotic for not supporting Bush?

    We will be waiting. It should be easy for you to find one since you claim it happened all the time.

  • writer

    King, you’re always touting your church attendance. Jump in here.

  • Yukon Jack

    What is the BIGGER LEAP IN FAITH:

    Everything you see is nothing but a helter-skelter residue/remainder of evolution, or the result of an intelligent design?

  • Olby Sucks

    writer said:
    King, you’re always touting your church attendance. Jump in here.

    It’s either trolling on another thread/blog or booking another one of it’s bi-monthly jaunts around the world. ;)

  • RichS

    Snowspot said:
    How was god created? He coudln’t have been created from nothing… so if you can’t explain where god came from, then you can’t try to pick at the Big Bang. We have more proof of the big bang than we ever will of god. You can say earth is proof or the bible is proof, but when you get down to brass tacks… you can’t prove god had anything to do with earth, the earth just exists, the bible was just written by someone, so really you have no proof of god, except for hallucinations by people thousands of years ago (that lived in the desert).. So really, you’re going to call him out on the big bang? Get a clue religtard.

    Try to pick at? Asking what happened before the big bang or where the material came from is picking? Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson asked these very same questions. Do you think they were “picking at” the big bang theory?

  • RichS

    Snowspot said:
    How was god created? He coudln’t have been created from nothing… so if you can’t explain where god came from, then you can’t try to pick at the Big Bang. We have more proof of the big bang than we ever will of god. You can say earth is proof or the bible is proof, but when you get down to brass tacks… you can’t prove god had anything to do with earth, the earth just exists, the bible was just written by someone, so really you have no proof of god, except for hallucinations by people thousands of years ago (that lived in the desert).. So really, you’re going to call him out on the big bang? Get a clue religtard.

    Do you know what proof there is of the big bang theory?

  • The Real RoyaI King

    writer said:
    King, you’re always touting your church attendance. Jump in here.

    My bad, at lunch.

    Can’t they coexist? Couldn’t God be the cause of the big bang?

    Fundamentally they’re both unknowables.

  • RichS

    Snowspot said:
    How was god created? He coudln’t have been created from nothing… so if you can’t explain where god came from, then you can’t try to pick at the Big Bang. We have more proof of the big bang than we ever will of god. You can say earth is proof or the bible is proof, but when you get down to brass tacks… you can’t prove god had anything to do with earth, the earth just exists, the bible was just written by someone, so really you have no proof of god, except for hallucinations by people thousands of years ago (that lived in the desert).. So really, you’re going to call him out on the big bang? Get a clue religtard.

    Arno Penzias said he believes in God.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Hugo Daun said:
    Yes, it seems that “writer” believes magic played some part in the “big bang”.

    Explain what caused the very first something in the very first universe to occur, at which point your view of how things began will mean more than some religious guys view of how things began.

  • Hugo Daun

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    as do you sir

    Not so.

    I never even brought up the “big bang”…but to those folks who are questioning me about it, I would suggest looking into the work of any of a number of astrophysicists such as George Ellis or even Stephen Hawking.

    Unless, of course, you are content with supernatural “magical” explanations of the origin of the universe, our galaxy, the solar system etc.

    Now, if you’ll excuse me, I must place garlic and lower-case letter Ts above all my windows and doors to keep the vampires away.

  • The Real RoyaI King

    Yukon Jack said:
    Hey, Punk. mean Your Majesty, is there anything of value you might try to contribute to this forum???

    Other than the example of my excellent spelling and punctuation, probably not. But then again, is there any intrinsic value in posting on an internet forum, other than hearing the sound of one’s own voice, as it were?

    It’s not like this is some forum where reasonable discussion takes place. It’s all just blind arguing.

    “You don’t agree with me, you’re an idiot!”

    “Well FOX “news” lies!”

    “Well so does MSLSD!”

    “You’re just another libtard lolol”

    “Barack HUESSIEN 0bama is out to destroy your children’s children!”

    “Typical RepubliCAN’T racist!”

    We’re all kidding ourselves to think this has any value.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Snowspot said:
    so if you can’t explain where god came from, then you can’t try to pick at the Big Bang.

    Goes both ways. I’m not a religious man, but if you can’t explain what caused the big bang out of nothing, then you can’t pick at someone’s god.

  • im_lovin_it

    gordonbloyershow said:
    Why don’t you list just ONE time when someone said that anyone was unpatriotic for not supporting Bush?

    We will be waiting. It should be easy for you to find one since you claim it happened all the time.

    “When you have Democrats saying it’s time to get out, artificial timetables and saying that the Commander-in-Chief lied, distorted, hyped and misled the troops. Is that the thing to do during a time of war?” Sean Hannity, 12/2/05

    That didn’t take too long. Does that count?

    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/unpatriotic-sean-hannity/Content?oid=1115092

    This?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AAUoLiG9g

  • BarneyFranken

    My favorite part of her story was that her blazer costs $19, and she wears only two different outfits all the time.

    Doesn’t Castro wear the same thing all the time as well?

  • writer

    Hugo, you’re not using satire now, are you? Or do you really believe in vampires?

  • im_lovin_it

    writer said:
    im_lovin_it, there again, if someone else likes Fox and you don’t, why do you care?

    I have no problems with anyone watching FNC. I have problems with people living on every word that comes out of that network. I have problems with people dismissing all other sources as “liberal” and relying exclusively on a network they agree with.

    If the only show I watched was the Office, how could I say that the Office is the funniest show on TV? If NBC ran ads saying it was the funniest and best show on TV should I just believe that and watch nothing but the Office?

  • writer

    But if I like The Office and someone else doesn’t, I can’t see how it affects me at all.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Goes both ways. I’m not a religious man, but if you can’t explain what caused the big bang out of nothing, then you can’t pick at someone’s god.

    Depends on if your life depending on things that are truly absolute. Medical science shows evolution is how we got to where we are, you can see examples of evolution happening at extremely fast rates by looking at diseases and how they eventually evolve immunity to antibiotics and treatments.

    In essence, that’s what the big bang is, we have found how the universe moves, it’s expanding, meaning it’s all expanding from one point. Traced back, that’s where the big bang happened, and before the big bang, it’s believed that all the matter and everything in the universe was condensed into one thing and then something caused it to explode.

    Ok so that’s the scientific analysis…

    The bible has no proof of anything, it’s just a bunch of random ideas thrown together about morality from the prespective of a very early civilization. They did stuff like sell their daughters.

    Science doesn’t sell it’s daughters, science doesn’t have a viewpoint. Science is just observations and it’s observed that the universe is expanding from one point… that’s more than you will ever be able to prove about god.. and yet people want to believe the fantasy. So go ahead but don’t say science is flawed, science doesn’t make things up. Science is merely recording what has happened and we’ve done tons of simulations using computers for the big bang and there’s really no other way the universe could be expanding the way it does.

    You come to a point where you either believe what science knows, or you ignore science and retreat back to the ways of the past, because you’re afraid.

    I choose science :P

  • jo hoochie

    RRK I like that answer.Can’t they coexist? Couldn’t God be the cause of the big bang?

  • notsofast

    Are

    im_lovin_it said:
    “When you have Democrats saying it’s time to get out, artificial timetables and saying that the Commander-in-Chief lied, distorted, hyped and misled the troops. Is that the thing to do during a time of war?” Sean Hannity, 12/2/05

    That didn’t take too long. Does that count?

    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/unpatriotic-sean-hannity/Content?oid=1115092

    No it doesn’t.

    Where did he say it was unpatriotic?

    Remember, son, only not paying your taxes is unpatriotic.

    This?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AAUoLiG9g

  • Grammie

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    illusive man said:

    Rachel Maddow slandered a congressman by falsely claiming he had previous knowledge of the oklahoma city bombing but failed to report it.

    Gasp! Are you saying that msnbc lies? No way!

    One of my favorite Maddow clips, this things a hoot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0

    .
    Definitely one of my faves too.

    Here is the conclusion to the not to be missed expose/take down of Maddow/MSNBC that the video is part of:

    .
    “Rachel Maddow’s holier-than-thou smugness is best encapsulated in her claim that on Fox News, hosts allow fundraising for Republican candidates on the air. Ergo Fox is political, MSNBC isn’t. Ms Maddow’s examples of this happening on FNC? A grand total of: one. John Kasich, appearing on Hannity, gave out his website URL and encouraged donations. It’s the only example Maddow gave because it’s the one Media Matters cited. That’s called ‘journalism’.

    What follows is the video Rachel Maddow doesn’t want you to see. In it you will find fundraising URLs spouted by guests and even by hosts. You’ll see on-air soliciations for everything from campaign volunteers to cold, hard cash. Presiding over it all: Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz, and–yes–Rachel Maddow. We report, you decide:”

    http://johnnydollar.us/files/101107fhwir.php#disqus_thread

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    cjd ohio 1 said:
    exactly

    It’s believed that the universe is a cycle and the material was from the last universe, after it died and then contracted. Energy cannot be lost, it only changes form, so the same amount of energy would be there to start the next universe.

  • notsofast

    Grammie said:
    Mr.Papshmer said:
    illusive man said:

    Rachel Maddow slandered a congressman by falsely claiming he had previous knowledge of the oklahoma city bombing but failed to report it.

    Gasp! Are you saying that msnbc lies? No way!

    One of my favorite Maddow clips, this things a hoot:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txjXBx9-2c0

    Maddow Falsely Claims Politician Had Advance Warning of Oklahoma City Bombing

    Megan McArdle – Megan McArdle is the business and economics editor for The Atlantic. She has worked at three start-ups, a consulting firm, an investment bank, a disaster recovery firm at Ground Zero, and the Economist.

    Oct 20 2010, 11:31 AM ET
    Whether this was poor fact checking, or sloppy wording, with Maddow meaning to say that he got notice of militia involvement before the media, the implication of what she actually said is that he knew about the attacks before they happened. I hope Maddow will correct this implication quickly.

  • writer

    Snowspot, people were believing there was a supreme being before the Bible was written. Because they didn’t know how we got here. Yeah, the big bang is ‘scientific’. But why did it happen in the first place? No one knows, so no one should mock the ‘other side’ for being absolutely wrong or stupid.

  • im_lovin_it

    writer said:
    But if I like The Office and someone else doesn’t, I can’t see how it affects me at all.

    It’s not the opinion that matters, it’s what you do with it. You are free to love FNC. I can’t speak for everyone, but that doesn’t personally have any effects on me. The problem is people believing everything they hear on Fox News and using it to as the sole influence on their beliefs and decision-making. If someone has their worldview entirely shaped by a biased source then that isn’t exactly constructive to our politics. If I watched nothing but Media Matters clips and MSNBC and I based my decisions and thoughts off their reporting, would you think I had a very realistic understanding of the issues? Or would you be concerned that I am making decisions that affect you off biased sources with an agenda?

  • notsofast

    im_lovin_it said:
    “When you have Democrats saying it’s time to get out, artificial timetables and saying that the Commander-in-Chief lied, distorted, hyped and misled the troops. Is that the thing to do during a time of war?” Sean Hannity, 12/2/05

    That didn’t take too long. Does that count?

    http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/unpatriotic-sean-hannity/Content?oid=1115092

    This?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AAUoLiG9g

    Neither does- he did not say they were unpatriotic.

    Try again!

  • http://www.zazzle.com/talkingpoints NORBIT Jr.

    Democratic Media Motto:

    If you can’t refute them; BEAT THEM!
    The Mu-Barack Party!

    2012 – Purge the Democratic HUNS!

  • im_lovin_it

    Gordon wait!! How could I have forgot Ari Fleischer! Watch what you say, watch what you do!! Also it wasn’t just FNC who shilled for GWB, either….lest we forget Mr. Mathews On-Airgasm when W landed in his jet and strutted around with his flight suit! What a stud!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    writer said:
    Snowspot, people were believing there was a supreme being before the Bible was written. Because they didn’t know how we got here. Yeah, the big bang is ’scientific’. But why did it happen in the first place? No one knows, so no one should mock the ‘other side’ for being absolutely wrong or stupid.

    You have to decided how important religion is to you, is it important enough to ignore science? Because sometimes you have to point out the logical fallacies of religion.

    Religious people are fighting all the time to change our government.. but what about the fact that their beliefs are things that cannot be true in our current reality? What happens when religious people change the constitution or change laws just because of the bible?

    What happens when you ignore scientific data because of people’s “feelings” about religion?

    It’s not good and we need to stop treating people like they are children and can’t handle the truth. It’s more than likely that god doesn’t exist… so saying that god doesn’t want abortions, is not an acceptable answer. I, myself think abortions are bad, however it’s not my right to tell a woman she must have her child. I think it’s a decision she will have to learn from and she will regret that abortion.

    If religion had it’s way, there would be no abortion, so if a woman was raped, a priest might tell her that it’s part of “god’s plan”… well science would be apalled at that. Forced Sex is the plan of the almighty creator of the universe? For what purpose? God wants people to be raped? That’s news to me.

    None of this stuff would happen if people believed in science instead of an invisible, imagined creator of the universe, that can hear all our feelings and has no creator himself.

  • writer

    im_lovin_it, that’s the rub. The left looks at the Fox opinion shows such as Hannity and Beck, they disagree with the opinions expressed, then reach the conclusion that Fox is ‘lying’. A person with conservative views would say Maddow and Schultz are lying. I’ve watched Maddow, I disagree with her opinions, so I quit watching. The left could do the same with Fox. It’s not that complicated.

  • notsofast

    im_lovin_it said:
    Also it wasn’t just FNC who shilled for GWB

    So GWB had one- you say- one network behind him?

    Unlike Barry who has NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC.

  • writer

    Snowspot, I’m not one of those people you’re describing. I don’t pretend to have the answers. But in the question of how we got here, I think saying there’s a supreme being sounds no more far fetched than saying that some material came together, made a big bang, and here we are.

  • The Real Royal King

    Grammie said:
    .
    Definitely one of my faves too.

    Here is the conclusion to the not to be missed expose/take down of Maddow/MSNBC that the video is part of:

    .
    “Rachel Maddow’s holier-than-thou smugness is best encapsulated in her claim that on Fox News, hosts allow fundraising for Republican candidates on the air. Ergo Fox is political, MSNBC isn’t. Ms Maddow’s examples of this happening on FNC? A grand total of: one. John Kasich, appearing on Hannity, gave out his website URL and encouraged donations. It’s the only example Maddow gave because it’s the one Media Matters cited. That’s called ‘journalism’.

    What follows is the video Rachel Maddow doesn’t want you to see. In it you will find fundraising URLs spouted by guests and even by hosts. You’ll see on-air soliciations for everything from campaign volunteers to cold, hard cash. Presiding over it all: Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Ed Schultz, and–yes–Rachel Maddow. We report, you decide:”

    http://johnnydollar.us/files/101107fhwir.php#disqus_thread

    Please don’t pollute this site with Koldy’s PHOX Phan Klub krap, Janet.

  • im_lovin_it

    notsofast said:
    Neither does- he did not say they were unpatriotic.

    Try again!

    Wait, why are you and I arguing Phil Spector?! Anyways, are you looking for the sentence, “It is unpatriotic to not support George W. Bush while we are at war?” I guess i might never find that sentence.

    In the meantime read this….

    http://www.slate.com/id/2106109/

    I know, I know….Slate is liberal anti-American filth. Try it though! Pinch your nose and drink it down with some FreedomFresca!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    writer said:
    Snowspot, I’m not one of those people you’re describing. I don’t pretend to have the answers. But in the question of how we got here, I think saying there’s a supreme being sounds no more far fetched than saying that some material came together, made a big bang, and here we are.

    Yeah I doubt we will ever know for sure, either.

  • The Real Royal King

    Yukon Jack said:
    The Real RoyaI King said:
    I do declare, I resemble that remark!

    Hey, Punk. mean Your Majesty, is there anything of value you might try to contribute to this forum???

    I do hope, Yukon, you realize that you addressing that remark to that ignorant, lying POS Kumquat, likely known to you as Writer, who has once again stolen my identity (name and avatar).

  • writer

    And Yukon, I think you realize by now that the King is a lying, arrogant, hateful POS, and I’d value having his identity as much as I’d value Enron stock. The King’s inflated view of his own importance is staggering.

  • im_lovin_it

    notsofast said:
    So GWB had one- you say- one network behind him?

    Unlike Barry who has NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC.

    Hahahaha!!! What network was Mathews on when he said, “We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical….”

    Oh wait…here’s that libtard Bob Schieffer at CommunistBullshitStation: As far as I’m concerned, that was one of the great pictures of all time.

    And Joe Klein, from al-Qaeda’s TIme Magazine: Well, that was probably the coolest presidential image since Bill Pullman played the jet fighter pilot in the movie Independence Day. That was the first thing that came to mind for me. And it just shows you how high a mountain these Democrats are going to have to climb.

    What a bunch of libtards. Why didn’t they fawn over Bush like they do over Obama????

  • Bad Wolf

    Maddow is intelligent, insightful and entertaining.
    Perhaps she should have gotten the “Larry King Show.”

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Yes Grammie, how DARE you provide info that doesn’t come from a respected source such as the Daily Kos or Media Matters. Don’t you know that if the liberal media doesn’t report it, then it didn’t happen?

  • http://cbcf.groupsite.com Miss Capri

    Oh, MADDOW101, when you lack reason, just pull out the MacCarthyism card. Please. The infamous dude has been gone for how long now? Several decades. Get over it, Maddow and shut up if you can’t come up with a reasonable, original idea for yourself.

  • Color Me Badd

    Dear Citizens of the United States of America,

    It has come to our attention that the brothers, David and Charles Koch—the billionaire owners of Koch Industries—have long attempted to usurp American Democracy. Their actions to undermine the legitimate political process in Wisconsin are the final straw. Starting today we fight back.

    Koch Industries, and oligarchs like them, have most recently started to manipulate the political agenda in Wisconsin. Governor Walker’s union-busting budget plan contains a clause that went nearly un-noticed. This clause would allow the sale of publicly owned utility plants in Wisconsin to private parties (specifically, Koch Industries) at any price, no matter how low, without a public bidding process. The Koch’s have helped to fuel the unrest in Wisconsin and the drive behind the bill to eliminate the collective bargaining power of unions in a bid to gain a monopoly over the state’s power supplies.

    The Koch brothers have made a science of fabricating ‘grassroots’ organizations and advertising campaigns to support them in an attempt to sway voters based on their falsehoods. Americans for Prosperity, Club for Growth and Citizens United are just a few of these organizations. In a world where corporate money has become the lifeblood of political influence, the labor unions are one of the few ways citizens have to fight against corporate greed. Anonymous cannot ignore the plight of the citizen-workers of Wisconsin, or the opportunity to fight for the people in America’s broken political system. For these reasons, we feel that the Koch brothers threaten the United States democratic system and, by extension, all freedom-loving individuals everywhere. As such, we have no choice but to spread the word of the Koch brothers’ political manipulation, their single-minded intent and the insidious truth of their actions in Wisconsin, for all to witness.

    Anonymous hears the voice of the downtrodden American people, whose rights and liberties are being systematically removed one by one, even when their own government refuses to listen or worse – is complicit in these attacks. We are actively seeking vulnerabilities, but in the mean time we are calling for all supporters of true Democracy, and Freedom of The People, to boycott all Koch Industries’ paper products. We welcome unions across the globe to join us in this boycott to show that you will not allow big business to dictate your freedom.

    U.S. Product Boycott List

    Vanity Fair [not the magazine, the napkins and “classy” paper plates -RM]
    Quilted Northern
    Angel Soft
    Sparkle
    Brawny
    Mardi Gras
    Dixie

    European Product Boycott List

    Demak’Up
    Kitten Soft
    Lotus / Lotus Soft
    Tenderly
    Nouvelle Soft
    Okay Ktchen Towels
    Colhogar
    Delica
    Inversoft
    Tutto

    To identify these brands, please look for the following logo anywhere on the packaging:

    image

    Anonymous.

    We are Legion I We do not forgive I We do not forget I Expect us

  • writer

    BTW, Yukon. The other night you were wondering which poster would be so vile and hateful that he would start bashing someone’s kids, just because he disagreed with the parent’s politics. The King is your boy.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Snowspot said:
    Yeah I doubt we will ever know for sure, either.

    There are some things that will never be known. Living as we do, limited by the laws of physics as we are, we simply will never know what caused the very first something to occur, as the laws of physics as we understand them weren’t even finalized. Whether you believe in a god or not, the “beginning” is a paradox that neither religion nor science can explain, ever, and it takes no less “faith” to deny the existence of a higher power than it does to believe in one.

  • chatmandu002

    Who cares about Radical Madcow.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Snowspot said:
    It’s believed that the universe is a cycle and the material was from the last universe

    Still doesn’t answer what caused the very first something, in the very first universe.

  • Alric_IV

    The article said, “Or maybe since Fox rarely acknowledged Olbermann’s comments, they plan on using a similar strategy against Maddow to help make her disappear too.” Anybody who thinks Olbermann was canned because Fox News wasn’t paying attention to him is an idiot. ow ridiculous can you possible get? Maddow doesn’t say what she says to get a response from FN. She says it to inform her viewers.

    What I like about the whole MSNBC (which is weakened by the loss of Olbermann and movie Ed Schultz later) is that finally you have a true liberal primetime lineup that does what Fox does. It’s nice to see it go both ways.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Still doesn’t answer what caused the very first something, in the very first universe.

    It seems almost as if it woudn’t matter, we can’t escape from our universe and it keeps repeating over and over. Unless we could break that cycle or escape to another universe, we would never be able to find out what the beginning is.

    Also, many believe there are an infinite amount of universes, so this is happening in other universes too. They would all start with a big bang. I’ve always wondered if the infinite universe are all just a big power source, and each universe is a battery and when the battery runs out, it condenses back to how it was, then starts the big bang again, restarting the battery.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Thanks for the list, color me ignorant!! I’ll adjust my walmart list to buy as many of those products as possible. Hey remember when you freaks did the boycott of Whole Foods? As I recall, the Buycott was more successful than your pitiful effort!!

  • Grammie

    Do we have a raging case of cognitive dissonance here with these two thoughts in one short paragraph:

    She criticizes Fox with this:

    “running baroque conspiracies that are designed to freak people out about bogeymen coming to get them, conspiracies that are unsupported by the facts.”

    While simultaneously using this evocation of the Spanish Inquisition to describe Fox:

    “McCarthyite chamber of horrors”

    Exactly who is using the dark fear inducing conspiracy theories against whom, Rachel?

  • writer

    Uh, oh Tormentor. You mentioned you shop at Wal-Mart. Expect a merciless taunting from the King.

  • Mr.Papshmer

    Snowspot said:
    It seems almost as if it woudn’t matter, we can’t escape from our universe and it keeps repeating over and over. Unless we could break that cycle or escape to another universe, we would never be able to find out what the beginning is.

    Also, many believe there are an infinite amount of universes, so this is happening in other universes too. They would all start with a big bang. I’ve always wondered if the infinite universe are all just a big power source, and each universe is a battery and when the battery runs out, it condenses back to how it was, then starts the big bang again, restarting the battery.

    In any case, we’re presented with paradox that can never be answered. We can ponder it till the cows come home, but there is no answer, and never will be, that can be proven.

  • CAconservative

    If you can’t be #1 in the cable news industry, or not even close, then you become the “attack the #1 cable news show”, every day, all the time news show because….well….that’s all you have left.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    writer says:
    Uh, oh Tormentor. You mentioned you shop at Wal-Mart. Expect a merciless taunting from the King.

    Yeah, I did that on purpose. He’s having a rough day so I thought I would throw him a bone.

  • illusive man

    Color Me Badd said:
    Dear Citizens of the United States of America, It has come to our attention that the brothers, David and Charles Koch—the billionaire owners of Koch Industries—have long attempted to usurp American Democracy. Their actions to undermine the legitimate political process in Wisconsin are the final straw. Starting today we fight back. Koch Industries, and oligarchs like them, have most recently started to manipulate the political agenda in Wisconsin. Governor Walker’s union-busting budget plan contains a clause that went nearly un-noticed. This clause would allow the sale of publicly owned utility plants in Wisconsin to private parties (specifically, Koch Industries) at any price, no matter how low, without a public bidding process. The Koch’s have helped to fuel the unrest in Wisconsin and the drive behind the bill to eliminate the collective bargaining power of unions in a bid to gain a monopoly over the state’s power supplies. The Koch brothers have made a science of fabricating ‘grassroots’ organizations and advertising campaigns to support them in an attempt to sway voters based on their falsehoods. Americans for Prosperity, Club for Growth and Citizens United are just a few of these organizations. In a world where corporate money has become the lifeblood of political influence, the labor unions are one of the few ways citizens have to fight against corporate greed. Anonymous cannot ignore the plight of the citizen-workers of Wisconsin, or the opportunity to fight for the people in America’s broken political system. For these reasons, we feel that the Koch brothers threaten the United States democratic system and, by extension, all freedom-loving individuals everywhere. As such, we have no choice but to spread the word of the Koch brothers’ political manipulation, their single-minded intent and the insidious truth of their actions in Wisconsin, for all to witness. Anonymous hears the voice of the downtrodden American people, whose rights and liberties are being systematically removed one by one, even when their own government refuses to listen or worse – is complicit in these attacks. We are actively seeking vulnerabilities, but in the mean time we are calling for all supporters of true Democracy, and Freedom of The People, to boycott all Koch Industries’ paper products. We welcome unions across the globe to join us in this boycott to show that you will not allow big business to dictate your freedom. U.S. Product Boycott List Vanity Fair [not the magazine, the napkins and “classy” paper plates -RM]Quilted NorthernAngel SoftSparkleBrawnyMardi GrasDixie European Product Boycott List Demak’UpKitten SoftLotus/ Lotus SoftTenderlyNouvelle SoftOkay Ktchen TowelsColhogarDelicaInversoftTutto To identify these brands, please look for the following logo anywhere on the packaging: image Anonymous. We are Legion I We do not forgive I We do not forget I Expect us

    Dear brainwashed swine,
    Why do you want hard working people that never hurt you to lose there job’s?

  • Mr.Papshmer

    illusive man said:
    Dear brainwashed swine,
    Why do you want hard working people that never hurt you to lose there job’s?

    Because he’s a brainwashed swine, as you said, and he’s freaking out just like the rest of the filth who thought they’d won, only to find that people weren’t voting for them or their freakish agenda, they were voting against McCain because he’s a douche.

  • Penguin60

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    Still doesn’t answer what caused the very first something, in the very first universe.

    Doesn’t the universe tend toward randomness, chaos and decay?

  • Pablo

    Grammie said:
    She criticizes Fox with this:

    “running baroque conspiracies that are designed to freak people out about bogeymen coming to get them, conspiracies that are unsupported by the facts.”

    I wonder if she’s familiar with Wade Rathke: Community Organizing is a Revolutionary Tool

    I retweeted something last week where someone had said, “Glenn Beck takes the left more seriously than anyone else,” or words to that affect, simply because it was true. For all of his buffoonery and conspiracy theories, Beck is on to something: he knows community organizing is serious business, and he knows that it threatens the status quo. Liberals make the mistake of simply seeing community organizing as nice, harmless civic participation, which is also true, but only part of the story, which is why in the assault on ACORN they often drew the line inaccurately at form, rather than recognizing that the substance of the attack was deeply targeted at substance, and as it turned out the very right of a mass-based, socially responsive, politically active membership organization of low-and-moderate income families to even exist. It wasn’t then and isn’t now a question of the name, but the very game itself.

    All of this is becoming crystal clear as change continues to come in the Middle East.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Inboca/1829370356 Dave Inboca

    “Or maybe since Fox rarely acknowledged Olbermann’s comments, they plan on using a similar strategy against Maddow to help make her disappear too.”

    MessNBC’s viewer totals are so low, and the number of psychotic libtards so low—even though they’re noisy and intrusive….Maddow will be blown away like her fellow broomstick rider, the wicked witch of the West.

  • Yukon Jack

    The Real Royal King said:
    I do hope, Yukon, you realize that you addressing that remark to that ignorant, lying POS Kumquat, likely known to you as Writer, who has once again stolen my identity (name and avatar).

    PUNK, if you are addressing me have the courtesy of calling me by my full screen name.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    Mr.Papshmer said:
    In any case, we’re presented with paradox that can never be answered. We can ponder it till the cows come home, but there is no answer, and never will be, that can be proven.

    See, now you’re the on making presumptions, you have no idea if we will ever find out. With things like the Large Hadron Collider, we are making things like black holes. A small step to the future, I think people in the past always make assumptions that there are things we could “never” do.. but really, we have no idea what the scope of the universe is and we could probably create our own mini-universe and find out how all these things work.

  • Yukon Jack

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    Other than the example of my excellent spelling and punctuation, probably not. But then again, is there any intrinsic value in posting on an internet forum, other than hearing the sound of one’s own voice, as it were?

    It’s not like this is some forum where reasonable discussion takes place. It’s all just blind arguing.

    “You don’t agree with me, you’re an idiot!”

    “Well FOX “news” lies!”

    “Well so does MSLSD!”

    “You’re just another libtard lolol”

    “Barack HUESSIEN 0bama is out to destroy your children’s children!”

    “Typical RepubliCAN’T racist!”

    We’re all kidding ourselves to think this has any value.

    I hope that you are not delusional enough to think that you are quoting me.

  • Liberal Tormentor

    Mr. Paps says:

    Because he’s a brainwashed swine,

    Actually, he is a she. She looks just like Megyn Kelly, don’t you know. Just ask her, she’ll tell you.

  • The Real Royal Queen

    writer said:
    King, you’re always touting your church attendance. Jump in here.

    The Real RoyaI King said:
    My bad, at lunch.

    And you were wonderful my dear…I wish lunch would last forever!
    Or at least more than 2 minutes.

  • BruinAlum77

    gordonbloyershow said:
    That dumb Beck said the Communists were involved in the protests. That liar. How dumb can he be.
    Oh NO, he was right.

    Communists, socialists rallying support behind Madison protests
    By John Rossomando – The Daily Caller 1:27 PM 02/25/2011

    1) Your linked article talked about communist and socialist groups talking about Walker’s plans to bust the unions as “class war in Wisconsin” and as an affront to “the standard of living of working people.” Nowhere does the article say any of these groups were involved in the protests, as Beck claimed.

    2) Maoist Revolutionary Communist Party, Trotskyist Socialist Workers Party and the Democratic Socialists of America mentioned at the beginning of this blog post are actually not quoted. Why is that? If this is supposed to be news, shouldn’t there be at least the slightest bit of evidence to support the claim?

    3) The Communist Party USA is quoted saying “Using the deficit as a scare tactic, the right-wing corporate Republicans are on a fast track to… destroy unions …” How is this different from what Shep Smith at Fox News and most major newspapers are reporting? Is your point that if a Communist Party member makes the same fact-based observation as a Fox News or major newspaper reporter, the facts are somehow tainted?

    4) The photo of a single “protestor (wow, the editorial standards of a real newspaper) outside the Wisconsin State Capitol” on Feb. 22, seems to be in sharp conflict to the estimated crowds of 40,000-70,000.

    Please try to let the facts speak for themselves. Better yet, try learning the difference between a fact-checking editor-reviewed news source and a political opinion aggregator like Tucker Carlson’s “Daily Caller.”

    Until a real news source provides evidence to the contrary, Beck’s statement is completely false and just another in a long line of examples of his hysterical fear mongering.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Nitish-Singh/100001236871750 Nitish Singh

    some little bits of info from a February 2010 USA Weekend article
    @ http://www.usaweekend.com/article/20100205/ENTERTAINMENT05/100203002/TV\-s-big-lib
    that Rachel has revealed about herself that undercut her media analysis:

    Q: How do you stay up on the news?
    A: I exist, essentially, totally online in my news-gathering experience, and that means you can seek out what you want and find almost as much depth as you want on any one thing that you want.

    Q: What about your cable competition, Sean Hannity or Larry King?
    A: I’ve never actually seen a whole prime-time show on Fox, and I’ve never seen an episode of Larry King. I was booked to go on [King's] show in January 2008, but that was the night that MSNBC offered me a contract to be exclusive, so I had to cancel.

    this type of media intake is at once self-reinforcing and reliant on 3rd party referrals (like asking a Yankees fan about the RedSox, or vice versa. her primary sources for FNC are likely Media Matters, Think Progress, Crooks and Liars, etc, who all kinda hate FNC)

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    im_lovin_it said:
    “When you have Democrats saying it’s time to get out, artificial timetables and saying that the Commander-in-Chief lied, distorted, hyped and misled the troops. Is that the thing to do during a time of war?” Sean Hannity, 12/2/05 That didn’t take too long. Does that count? http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/unpatriotic-sean-hannity/Content?oid=1115092 This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AAUoLiG9g

    LOL, let me see, I never heard or read the word unpatriotic in your examples? Do you always hear or read things that aren’t there? Would you point out the word “unpatriotic” in this sentence?

    “When you have Democrats saying it’s time to get out, artificial timetables and saying that the Commander-in-Chief lied, distorted, hyped and misled the troops. Is that the thing to do during a time of war?” Sean Hannity, 12/2/05

    I guess you better try again. You have already proven that you are a fool once now, don’t post another one without the word “unpatriotic”.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    im_lovin_it said:
    Anyways, are you looking for the sentence, “It is unpatriotic to not support George W. Bush while we are at war?” I guess i might never find that sentence.

    You said they said those words, so YES we are looking for those words. DUH? We don’t want you ignorant mind reading.

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    BruinAlum77 said:
    Until a real news source provides evidence to the contrary, Beck’s statement is completely false and just another in a long line of examples of his hysterical fear mongering.

    LOL, you need help pal. When you get a brain tell UCLA.

  • BruinAlum77

    gordonbloyershow said:
    LOL, you need help pal. When you get a brain tell UCLA.

    Yes, the typical brilliant rejoinder when you have absolutely no factual basis to anything you say. Congratulations!

  • im_lovin_it

    gordonbloyershow said:
    You said they said those words, so YES we are looking for those words. DUH? We don’t want you ignorant mind reading.

    Oh I get it. You can disparage someone’s patriotism without using the word unpatriotic. VERY clever Gordon! You win this round!! Oh well. It’s late in the day, you really need to GO put some pants ON. Renaissance MAN!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    The Real Royal Queen said:
    And you were wonderful my dear…I wish lunch would last forever!
    Or at least more than 2 minutes.

    Republicans have made lunch illegal, it’s socialist.

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    im_lovin_it said:
    Oh I get it. You can disparage someone’s patriotism without using the word unpatriotic. VERY clever Gordon! You win this round!! Oh well. It’s late in the day, you really need to GO put some pants ON. Renaissance MAN!

    He doesn’t have pants, he can barely afford his government cheese with his food stamps. He’s fashioned pants out of plastic bags he stole from neighbors trying to recycle. Stupid liberals, throwing away free clothes.

  • LibertySister

    Does anyone notice that FOX news does not care or program there shows on the constant jealously and anger of another network.

    But MSNBC does!

    How could anyone listen to this daily. I dont care if MSNBC leans left..

    If I dont like them I wont watch them. That simple!

  • http://www.snowspot.net Snowspot

    LibertySister said:
    Does anyone notice that FOX news does not care or program there shows on the constant jealously and anger of another network.

    Fox News doesn’t just lean right, it’s a different reality.

  • Pablo

    BruinAlum77 said:
    Nowhere does the article say any of these groups were involved in the protests, as Beck claimed.

    No, what Beck said is that the ISO pulled the permit for Saturday’s MoveOn.org/SEIU protest at DuPont Circle. He said that this has been confirmed by the Park Police. That’s easy enough to check.

    He has also noted in the past the groups listed at sponsors and contributors to the One Nation Working Together rally which was, as evidenced by their own website, crawling with commies, socialists, racial grievance groups and unions.

  • BruinAlum77

    “There’s no stated goal. There’s no definition of success. All these important things. There’s no exit strategy. One mistake after another. Why would you go in deeper when we have not been successful up to this point? That seems to me to be folly.”

    Questioning the president’s military policy, this sounds like another one of them unpatriotic libruls to me. Wonder who actually said these words? Maybe if certain posters would actually read a link supplied to them, they might be in for a surprise. But then again, dealing with the massive amount of cognitive dissonance of most conservative posters on these message boards (or simply gainful employment by the RNC), why care about facts and reality?

    In case you don’t want to look at the earlier links, it was Sean Hannity questioning Clinton’s actions in Kosovo.

    To be fair, the real point of this should be to end all the hypocrisy and ranting in the media and our national discourse. Either we support our Constitution and allow public discourse and the right for the minority opposition to hold the administration accountable for their policies and the data that supports those decisions, or we all call the other side traitors every time someone asks questions the president, and continue regressing as a nation.

  • LibertySister

    BFD said:
    LOL…those are YOUR leaders.

    I would not laugh too hard without looking too far from your own party .
    These people seem to sum up why we laugh at your party of idiots so much!
    … Janeane Garofalo, Al Franken, Rosie O’Donnell, Alan Grayson, Joy Behar, Alvin Greene, Kathy Griffin, and the yelling FOX Lies moron…
    Such knowledgeable thinkers…

  • BruinAlum77

    Pablo said:
    No, what Beck said is that the ISO pulled the permit for Saturday’s MoveOn.org/SEIU protest at DuPont Circle. He said that this has been confirmed by the Park Police. That’s easy enough to check.

    He has also noted in the past the groups listed at sponsors and contributors to the One Nation Working Together rally which was, as evidenced by their own website, crawling with commies, socialists, racial grievance groups and unions.

    Considering how much false information Beck states over the air, your argument that “Beck says…” in order to back up Beck’s initial insane rant doesn’t have any validity.

    If you really believe what he says, why not provide some evidence, instead of saying it’s easy enough to check?

    I just checked on the One Nation Working Together Rally website. They list their endorsing organizations as follows:

    AFL-CIO
    American Federation of Teachers
    Center for Community Change
    Communications Workers of America
    Green for All
    Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights
    NAACP
    National Action Network
    National Council of La Raza
    PowerPAC
    Rainbow PUSH Coalition
    SEIU 1199
    SEIU: Service Employees International Union
    Sojourners
    UAW, International Union
    United States Students Association

    There are huge union and civil rights groups represented here. To characterize the site as “crawling with commies, socialists, radical greivance groups, and unions” is completely misleading.

    It like saying that the Tea Party and Republicans as a whole are racists because David Duke ran for office, or a few nuts carry signs and guns to political rallies.

    The implication of Beck’s statement is that there will be a new communist threat to this country, so fear the unions and take away collective bargaining. The people of Wisconsin and the rest of the country support collective bargaining as a basic human right. The latest poll puts the support at 61%. So by Beck’s insane logic, 61% of the country is communist.

    And you wonder why Rachel Maddows characterizes Fox as a McCarthyite Chamber of Horrors.

  • jrcmi

    “Kurtz notes that “Maddow’s repeated attacks have not provoked a response from Fox” ”

    Figures. Truth hurts.

    Bad Wolf said:
    Maddow is intelligent, insightful and entertaining.
    Perhaps she should have gotten the “Larry King Show.”

    An interesting idea – though i don’t envision her getting too interested in the Hollywood fluff-stuff.

    Maddow digs for facts like a gold miner. King says he AVOIDS prior information about his guests. Maybe King should work for Fakes “News.”

    Literal Toolmental said:
    Yes Grammie, how DARE you provide info that doesn’t come from a respected source such as the Daily Kos or Media Matters. Don’t you know that if the liberal media doesn’t report it, then it didn’t happen?

    Still waiting for proof of MM factual errors. Request #28.

    “when you lack reason, just pull out the MacCarthyism card. Please. The infamous dude has been gone for how long now? Several decades. ”

    McCarthy’s tactics were nearly synonymous with Fox’s. The comparison is appropriate no matter how dead McC is.

    “Get over it, Maddow and shut up if you can’t come up with a reasonable, original idea for yourself.”

    How long has Saul Alinsky been dead? Doesn’t stop the right from digging him up regularly.

    “we simply will never know what caused the very first something to occur . . . ”

    A God – or Gods – may or may not exist, but the universe is real. Several tangible theories have been advanced as to the origin of the universe. None for God.

    chatmandu002 said:
    Who cares about Radical Madcow.

    Goofballs who have nothing to say but feel the need to make cheep jokes about her name?

    Alric_IV said:
    finally you have a true liberal primetime lineup that does what Fox does.

    MSNBC – FACTS News.

    Liberal Tormentor said:
    I’ll adjust my walmart list to buy as many of those products as possible.

    The way the neofascist right is destroying the middle class, better put ‘em on your “dumpster-diving” list, as well.

    Grammie said:
    Do we have a raging case of cognitive dissonance here with these two thoughts in one short paragraph:

    She criticizes Fox with this:

    “running baroque conspiracies that are designed to freak people out about bogeymen coming to get them, conspiracies that are unsupported by the facts.”

    While simultaneously using this evocation of the Spanish Inquisition to describe Fox:

    “McCarthyite chamber of horrors”

    Exactly who is using the dark fear inducing conspiracy theories against whom, Rachel?

    Maddow’s statements are entirely congruent. Fakes “News” is a “chamber of horrors” where truths and facts are mercilessly tortured for political purposes – and to pander to a misanthropic viewership,

    CAconservative said:
    If you can’t be #1 in the cable news industry, or not even close, then you become the “attack the #1 cable news show”, every day, all the time news show because….well….that’s all you have left.

    Fakes “News” achieves its ratings through lies, distortions, mischaracterizations and the aforementioned pandering. I’d rather watch a lower-rated channel that’s more accurate and honest. You?

    illusive man said:
    Dear brainwashed swine,
    Why do you want hard working people that never hurt you to lose there job’s?

    Do YOU want us to knuckle under to wealthy corporations and individuals who seek to eviscerate the middle class? Talk about “branewarshed.”

    Working people are already being hurt by monolithic corporations that seek to suppress wages, neuter worker safety rules and environmental laws, cripple collective bargaining rights – AND ship our jobs offshore AND get tax credits for donig so.

    Yukon Joik said:
    PUNK, if you are addressing me have the courtesy of calling me by my full screen name.

    That’s MISTER Punk to YOU, fella!

    What’s your real name? Miss Manners?

    gordoneblewit said: DUH? We don’t want you ignorant mind reading.

    “DUH” may be the most intelligent thing gordim’s ever said. “We don’t want you ignorant mind reading” sorta speaks for itself.

    “Does anyone notice that FOX news does not care or program there [sic] shows on the constant jealously and anger of another network.”

    MSNBC calls Fakes “News” out on its many lies, distortions and mischaracterizations – which keeps them busy. Fakes doesn’t call out MSNBC for ITS lies, etc., because they have trouble finding any.

    While any network can make factual errors, Fox provably misleads. In order to refute MSNBC, Fox would have expose their own lies, distortions and mischaracterizations, which is unlikely (to put it mildly).

    Fox wouldn’t admit to using file footage to “pad the crowds” at a Tea Party rally until forced to do so by exposure by The Daily Show and other media. Even then, they claimed it was accidental – which was also unlikely.

    LibertySister said:
    I would not laugh too hard without looking too far from your own party .
    These people seem to sum up why we laugh at your party of idiots so much!
    … Janeane Garofalo, Al Franken, Rosie O’Donnell, Alan Grayson, Joy Behar, Alvin Greene, Kathy Griffin, and the yelling FOX Lies moron…
    Such knowledgeable thinkers…

    Among the people you cite, only Franken is a serving legislator. Alvin Greene was either Jim DeMented’s stooge or a donkey who thought he could fly. Most of the others are entertainment figures – like Kelsey Grammer and the decreased Charlton Heston.

    Why do you think its “moronic” to point out Fox’s many lies, distortions and mischaracterizations? Do their lies make you feel all warm and fuzzy – truth be damned?

    Typical neocon tactic: create guilt by association. Or, like Glenn Dreck, create association to create guilt. Such a knowledgeable finker.

  • Cancon2

    So did they describe the floor newspaper clipping stuff again?

    She is so smart that the UN just declared her to be the smartest human ever. And they included all the smartest super smart Liberals in the evaluation. In fact she is so smart, most people just cannot handle it and therefore cannot be in her presence for more than 5 minutes. Her staff is a constant state of turnover as the conveyor belt of previously super smart interns are laid to waste. Phil is also super Smart and I am so glad that Mediaite is publishing this story that talks about how freakishly smart this Super incredible smart liberal is today. Thanks. I love those freakishly Smart Liberals.

  • GlennBovineKoldys

    Best bet for an Oscar AND a Razzie:

    …and the awards go to “You Lie!” hussein for his outstanding efforts in fooling Americans into thinking 1. He is a Christian, 2. He is president of all Americans, not just blacks and latinos, 3. He is NOT a puppet of the unions, 4. He has stopped using tobacco and massive amounts of drugs, especially his favorite, cocaine, 5. He is a American citizen (WITHOUT an original birth certificate)-really!, 6. He is NOT a socialist extremist, 7. He is NOT a radical muslin, and 8. In spite of the obvious facts, he really, really isn’t trying to destroy America.

    It truly has been a performance without equal.

    That was posted by the friendly Teabagged representative.

    He is doing a great job embarrassing you wingnuts.

  • Garth

    Cancon2 said:
    So did they describe the floor newspaper clipping stuff again?

    She is so smart that the UN just declared her to be the smartest human ever. And they included all the smartest super smart Liberals in the evaluation. In fact she is so smart, most people just cannot handle it and therefore cannot be in her presence for more than 5 minutes. Her staff is a constant state of turnover as the conveyor belt of previously super smart interns are laid to waste. Phil is also super Smart and I am so glad that Mediaite is publishing this story that talks about how freakishly smart this Super incredible smart liberal is today. Thanks. I love those freakishly Smart Liberals.

    As opposed to the freakishly dumb whack jobs?

  • OxyCon

    The difference between Madcow and Glenn Beck is, love him or hate him, Beck actually believes in what he says, even though he knows he’s going to get heavily criticized for saying the things he says.

    Madcow on the other hand is intellectually dishonest and deliberately deceives to promote her agenda. She takes a news story and slants it to promote her agenda by either flat out misreporting it, omitting all facts that run counter to her agenda, or just flat out lying. She has some kind of deep psychological problem that borders on pathological. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that she’s been a liar most of her life, using dishonesty as a coping mechanism.

  • Pablo

    BruinAlum77 said:
    Considering how much false information Beck states over the air, your argument that “Beck says…” in order to back up Beck’s initial insane rant doesn’t have any validity.

    That’s nothing but ad hominem, and it’s the entire basis of your argument. You fail. Try again.

    I just checked on the One Nation Working Together Rally website. They list their endorsing organizations as follows:

    Yup. Did you notice this while you were there?

    Due to the increasing number of endorsements, we are no longer able to publish all the names of endorsing organizations on the website. Endorsing organizations will receive regular updates. Thank you for supporting One Nation Working Together and jobs, justice and education.

  • msrubyslippers

    Mad COW is a CHAMBEr OF HORROR!
    Get that thang out of TV!
    just sending the love around, thanks!

  • Pablo

    BruinAlum77 said:
    Considering how much false information Beck states over the air, your argument that “Beck says…” in order to back up Beck’s initial insane rant doesn’t have any validity.

    BTW, when the question is a matter of what Beck said, which is exactly what the question was, then the only thing that has any validity is what Beck actually said, don’t you think?

  • BruinAlum77

    Pablo said:
    BTW, when the question is a matter of what Beck said, which is exactly what the question was, then the only thing that has any validity is what Beck actually said, don’t you think?

    Sorry, the point I was making was that Beck’s rants are completely insane and have no factual basis. His whole idea about freedom in Egypt leading to a worldwide caliphate, then making connections with groups from the Muslim Brotherhood to the AFL-CIO was repudiated by conservative stalwarts like Bill Kristol and the National Review: http://tinyurl.com/4pvcqxm

    William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and a regular Fox News commentator, welcomes the debate among conservatives over the political revolution in Egypt.

    “It’s a sign of health that a political and intellectual movement does not respond to a complicated set of developments with one voice,” he wrote recently.

    “But hysteria is not a sign of health,” he continued. “When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.”

    In the conservative National Review, editor Rich Lowry called Kristol’s comments “a well-deserved shot at Glenn Beck’s latest wild theorizing.”

    The second part of Beck’s fantasy is that the popular movement of Wisconsin workers is somehow tied to a communist conspiracy: http://tinyurl.com/4jq4omh

    “We all know that it’s crazy talk now to say that the Egyptian unrest would spread beyond its borders. Sure, rioting and protests have hit Bahrain, Algeria, Jordon, Yemen, Morocco and, of course, the bloody revolt in Libya, just to name just a few,” Beck said. He added: “Protests and unrest are now sweeping through our own country, including this union uprising in Wisconsin. But even though we have the AFL-CIO saying we all have to unite this is all purely coincidental. It’s amazing coincidental timing, that’s all it is.”

    So when someone posts that Beck is correct about the communists supporting the Wisconsin workers (and by extension, that Beck’s commie scare argument against labor unions) by citing a blog post by some bogus reporter, I explained that there were no factual references in the linked article or the poster’s stand.

    When you say that Beck said something to back up his original premise, I’m not questioning whether you are correct in quoting him. I question the validity of his premise and the evidence that he cites, because: 1) you just take him at his word, without checking the validity of his assertions, passing it on as fact; and 2) Beck has a long track record of giving false information.

    Thanks for asking. I hope this shows that Glenn Beck is not a left-right issue, but a reality vs. insanity issue.

  • Liberty_Hound

    Rachel,

    I don’t why you guys like to give us free advertising, but thanks, we do appreciate it.

    Sincerely,
    Roger Ailes
    President of FOX News

  • BruinAlum77

    Pablo said:
    That’s nothing but ad hominem, and it’s the entire basis of your argument. You fail. Try again.

    Yup. Did you notice this while you were there?

    When the facts are that he has a long track record for misinformation, your argument fails in every respect, except for the fact that you can write ad hominem. I’m not saying that because Glenn Beck is a right wing lunatic, his facts are false. I’m saying that because his facts are false, his statements, which appeal to his right wing audience are insane.

    When you have established conservative sources like Bill Kristol and the National Review say that Beck is ranting, I would think that would be enough that we wouldn’t need to trot out the reams of evidence showing Beck starting with false or misleading information and then constructing a house of cards out of his crazy jumps of logic.

    61% of the American people support the collective bargaining rights of workers. So if you believe what Glenn Beck is saying about Wisconsin, then you must believe that 61% of Americans are communists.

    With regard to the fact that not every organization is listed, if that is your proof, then welcome to the Donald Rumsfeld school of law, where “the absence of evidence, does not prove the evidence is absent.”

    As I wrote before, trying to suggest that organized labor is a communist movement is as stupid as saying that conservatives are racists because David Duke ran for office as a Republican, or that Tea Partyiers are right wing lunatics who want to start a violent uprising because Allen West’s campaign chairman said “if ballots don’t work, then we’ll use bullets.”

    Or do you believe resorting to “second amendment remedies” to be a valid political position?

    Try saying something with at least one bit of fact to back your argument. One way or the other, someone may learn something.

  • BruinAlum77

    OxyCon said:
    The difference between Madcow and Glenn Beck is, love him or hate him, Beck actually believes in what he says, even though he knows he’s going to get heavily criticized for saying the things he says.

    Madcow on the other hand is intellectually dishonest and deliberately deceives to promote her agenda. She takes a news story and slants it to promote her agenda by either flat out misreporting it, omitting all facts that run counter to her agenda, or just flat out lying. She has some kind of deep psychological problem that borders on pathological. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that she’s been a liar most of her life, using dishonesty as a coping mechanism.

    It’s funny how posters actually quote Beck’s rants to show that when he is spreads misinformation or makes outrageous leaps of logic that have no basis in reality. Are you saying that when respected conservatives discount what he is saying as “hysteria” (see above reference to William Kristol), it’s okay, simply because Beck believes what he is saying?

    Please give us examples of Maddow lying if you’re going to make a valid point instead of just hurling insults. Or is that your own coping mechanism for dealing with people you disagree with?

  • tgk

    Maddow’s take on Glenn Beck’s recent Muslim-related shows is that he is “running baroque conspiracies that are designed to freak people out about bogeymen coming to get them, conspiracies that are unsupported by the facts.”

    You Got THAT Right Rachel………… Oh, wait

    We hereby call upon the Muslims in the US, particularly in New York, Michigan, Chicago and Washington DC to take lessons from their Muslim brothers and sisters in North Africa and the Middle East and rise to implement the Shari’ah in America.

    http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/DEMONSTRATION-OUTSIDE-WHITE-HOUSE

  • tgk

    Oh, that crazy Beck………………….. Wait, this is Farrakhan?

    Farrakhan: Mideast uprisings will come to US

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chibrknews-farrakhan-mideast-uprisings-will-come-to-us-20110227,0,7900164.story

  • tgk

    BruinAlum77 said:
    As I wrote before, trying to suggest that organized labor is a communist movement

    When did Beck say this? Got a link to that statement?

  • tgk

    BruinAlum77 said:
    trot out the reams of evidence

    Well, reams of evidence would be better than 5-8 paragraphs of “just another hater opining”

  • Grammie

    Cancon2 said:
    So did they describe the floor newspaper clipping stuff again?

    She is so smart that the UN just declared her to be the smartest human ever. And they included all the smartest super smart Liberals in the evaluation. In fact she is so smart, most people just cannot handle it and therefore cannot be in her presence for more than 5 minutes. Her staff is a constant state of turnover as the conveyor belt of previously super smart interns are laid to waste. Phil is also super Smart and I am so glad that Mediaite is publishing this story that talks about how freakishly smart this Super incredible smart liberal is today. Thanks. I love those freakishly Smart Liberals.

    .
    You got an out loud chuckle with that one.

    Look out Writer. :)

  • OxyCon

    BruinAlum77 said:
    Please give us examples of Maddow lying if you’re going to make a valid point instead of just hurling insults. Or is that your own coping mechanism for dealing with people you disagree with?

    http://politifact.com/personalities/rachel-maddow/

  • CosmosDan

    tgk said:
    We hereby call upon the Muslims in the US, particularly in New York, Michigan, Chicago and Washington DC to take lessons from their Muslim brothers and sisters in North Africa and the Middle East and rise to implement the Shari’ah in America.

    http://shariah4america.com/Shariah/DEMONSTRATION-OUTSIDE-WHITE-HOUSE

    Don’t those Muslims know Obama is one of them?

  • http://gordonbloyershow.com gordonbloyershow

    im_lovin_it said:
    Oh I get it. You can disparage someone’s patriotism without using the word unpatriotic. VERY clever Gordon! You win this round!! Oh well. It’s late in the day, you really need to GO put some pants ON. Renaissance MAN!

    How dumb are you? They disparaging their intelligence.

  • Calvin

    CosmosDan said:
    Don’t those Muslims know Obama is one of them?

    Ha, ha, you’re so funeeeee. *eye roll*

    I suppose you read this part:

    On 3rd March 2011 From 1pm to 4pm (local time), at Pennsylvania Avenue, outside the White House, the Muslims will let the tyrant Barack Obama and the American people know that a new constitution beckons the US called the Shari’ah, and that this worldwide revolution will see it implemented inshaa’allah (God willing) very very soon.

    You know of course that Obama is a muslim by birth, but he’s not one now. Because of that, he’s hated even more than you or me. Which is why I fear for the President’s life.

  • mardec

    MSNBC’s ONLY raison d’etre is to attack Fox News because that’s the ONLY WAY they can get any ratings at all. It’s great for Fox because the more Fox is attacked, the more people turn it on to see what all the hallabaloo is about. Once they’ve watched Fox, they stay with Fox! LOL!!!!

    As for Beck, the man has been correct about so many things it’s scary. But he and his crew actually do the research and come up with videos that back up what he says. As for Rachel Maddow and the rest of the left who attack Beck, they are only voicing their opinions….never facts. Anyone can do that. Beck is still waiting for the WH or anyone else to actually call him up and prove he’s wrong. He throws out that challenge all the time, but somehow no one has the guts to do it.

  • BruinAlum77

    OxyCon said:
    http://politifact.com/personalities/rachel-maddow/

    mardec said:
    As for Beck, the man has been correct about so many things it’s scary. But he and his crew actually do the research and come up with videos that back up what he says.

    This is wonderful. Are you saying that we can agree on at least some fact checking sites? If so, please read the Glenn Beck treasure trove of false statements: http://politifact.com/personalities/glenn-beck/

    If we use a scale where someone makes a couple of true statements, a handful of partially true statements a boatload of false statements, plus those infamous “pants on fire” excursions into fantasy, Beck is the champ of telling it like it isn’t. It’s not even close.

    Finally, when someone makes insane claims that only a small fringe group believes (just look at the numbers, people, and wake up. Beck’s had a 2010 average of 2.25 million viewers, which is a whopping 6/10% of the population of the United States), the argument that no one has the guts to call him up and prove him wrong is about as laughable as engaging in a debate with the homeless guy carrying a sign saying “The End is Near!”

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