Rachel Maddow has a show on MSNBC and is a global warming NUT. Talk about CRAZY.

Ms. Maddow is just trying to stir up trouble. FOX News cannot be held responsible for what it’s paid talent says on the air (or at Mass Gatherings of Dimwits and Heretics).

THE INAUGURAL SPEECH – JUST ONE OF BECKERHEAD’S LIES,
FROM LAST SATURDAY’S DIMWIT AND HERETIC RALLY,
EXPOSED TO US ALL, THANKS TO THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES,
SOON, WE’LL NEED A SPREAD SHEET FOR AN ACCURATE TALLY.

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Replace “Muslim” with “not an American citizen.” Works either way.

gordonbloyershow said:
Rachel Maddow has a show on MSNBC and is a global warming NUT. Talk about CRAZY.

Indeed, just like the Russians and Americans on the East Coast, we Texans are so tired of having spent the summer scraping ice off of our windshields.And we have grown weary of the climate change theory opponents who have be diavowing their positions this summer. I’m with you Marceaux, I mean Blower. There is no reason to bring science into a discussion of a scientific phenomenon. As you always say, “No Nothing and Be Happy!”

If Fox News did not exist , what would MSNBC show at night ? The Ed Schultz Dance Party ? Olby’s Cat Show ? Rachel’s Beauty Tips ?

Maddow, Olby, O’Donnell and Shultz are on the MSNBC payroll! These nuts get paid to spew their crazy, daily.

Questions:
Has McInerney been on FOX since filing the affidavit?

Does his filing this affidavit, despite his 35 years serving as a pilot, commander, and strategic planner in the U.S. Air Force, somehow render him incapable of commenting on foreign policy and wars?

The affidavit says, in part:

In refusing to obey orders because of his doubts as to their legality, LTC Lakin has acted exactly as proper training dictates. That training mandates that he determine in his own conscience that an order is legal before obeying it…For the foregoing reasons, it is my opinion that LTC Lakin’s request for discovery relating to the President’s birth records in Hawaii is absolutely essential to determining not merely his guilt or innocence but to reassuring all military personnel once and for all for this President whether his service as Commander in Chief is Constitutionally proper….The invasion of his privacy in these records is utterly trivial compared to the issues at stake here. Our military MUST have confidence their Commander in Chief lawfully holds this office and absent which confidence grievous consequences may ensue.

Is any of that untrue?

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/08/31/lt-gen-thomas-mcinerney-ret-provides-affidavit-supporting-ltc-lakin/

RRK, you don’t have to keep proving that you are crazy. We all know it already.

CLIMATE CHANGE LIES ARE EXPOSED
Tuesday August 31,2010
By Donna Bowater
THE world’s leading climate change body has been accused of losing credibility after a damning report into its research practices.
A high-level inquiry into the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change found there was “little evidence” for its claims about global warming.
It also said the panel had emphasised the negative impacts of climate change and made “substantive findings” based on little proof.
The review by the InterAcademy Council (IAC) was launched after the IPCC’s hugely embarrassing 2007 benchmark climate change report, which contained exaggerated and false claims that Himalayan glaciers could melt by 2035.
The panel was forced to admit its key claim in support of global warming was lifted from a 1999 magazine article. The report was based on an interview with a little-known Indian scientist who has since said his views were “speculation” and not backed by research.
Independent climate scientist Peter Taylor said last night: “The IPCC’s credibility has been deeply dented and something has to be done. It can’t just be a matter of adjusting the practices. They have got to look at what are the consequences of having got it wrong in terms of what the public think is going on. Admitting that it needs to reform means something has gone wrong and they really do need to look at the science.”
Climate change sceptic David Holland, who challenged leading climate change scientists at the University of East Anglia to disclose their research, said: “The panel is definitely not fit for purpose. What the IAC has said is substantial changes need to be made.”
The IAC, which comprises the world’s top science academies including the UK’s Royal Society, made recommendations to the IPCC to “enhance its credibility and independence” after the Himalayan glaciers report, which severely damaged the reputation of climate science.
It condemned the panel – set up by the UN to ensure world leaders had the best scientific advice on climate change – for its “slow and inadequate response” after the damaging errors emerged.
Among the blunders in the 2007 report were claims that 55 per cent of the Netherlands was below sea level when the figure is 26 per cent.
It also claimed that water supplies for between 75 million and 250 million people in Africa will be at risk by 2020 due to climate change, but the real range is between 90 and 220 million.
The claim that glaciers would melt by 2035 was also rejected.
Professor Julian Dowdeswell of Cambridge University said: “The average glacier is 1,000ft thick so to melt one at 15ft a year would take 60 years. That is faster than anything we are seeing now so the idea of losing it all by 2035 is unrealistic.”
In yesterday’s report, the IAC said: “The IPCC needs to reform its management structure and strengthen its procedures to handle ever larger and increasingly complex climate assessments as well as the more intense public scrutiny coming from a world grappling with how to respond to climate change.”
The review also cast doubt on the future of IPCC chairman Dr Rajendra Pachauri.
Earlier this year, the Daily Express reported how he had no climate science qualifications but held a PhD in economics and was a former railway engineer.
Dr Pachauri has been accused of a conflict of interest, which he denies, after it emerged that he has business interests attracting millions of pounds in funding. One, the Energy Research Institute, is set to receive up to £10million in grants from taxpayers over the next five years.
Speaking after the review was released yesterday, Dr Pachauri said: “We have the highest confidence in the science behind our assessments.
“The scientific community agrees that climate change is real. Greenhouse gases have increased as a result of human activities and now far exceed pre-industrial values.”

Hey Gordon, how about the story…remember the story…do you think there is any validity to what this General is saying, or is Rachel misrepresenting his statements?

Gordon likes to change the subject when he can’t explain something, like he did here.

Are you defending birthers sara?

I’d go on limb and say she’s not defending birthers, just the right of the General to have a say…yet it does seem to carry back into that original argument of the validity of Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Surely its not what your arguing are you Sara?

“Why attack here when you have leftists in America who have aided and abetted the enemy”

Wrong on attack. Right on aided. Right on abetted. Hey guys, two out of three ain’t bad!

So Az, what your saying is that leftists (read liberals I’m assuming) in America aided and abetted the terrorists on 9/11? If thats so, could you please cite an example of this?

I am black, you are white.
I am coffee, you are milk.
We will always complement each other.
_ B l a c k w h i t e C u p i d * C 0 m _
You may have a try… ;)

uyu

Ok, I don’t watch much MSNBC save the occasional “Hardball”, but do these people talk about anything OTHER than Fox News? Ever?

lonestar77 said:
Ok, I don’t watch much MSNBC save the occasional “Hardball”, but do these people talk about anything OTHER than Fox News? Ever?

I don’t watch MSNBC either but magic 8 ball says “unlikely.”

lonestar77 said:
Ok, I don’t watch much MSNBC save the occasional “Hardball”, but do these people talk about anything OTHER than Fox News? Ever?

If they did not have Fox, their entire show every night could be done in the time it takes Fox to do a NEWS FLASH!

Doesn’t ensign crusher have Alan Grayson on his show all the time?

Socrates69 said:
I’d go on limb and say she’s not defending birthers, just the right of the General to have a say…yet it does seem to carry back into that original argument of the validity of Obama’s birth in Hawaii. Surely its not what your arguing are you Sara?

I am asking if what McInerney states in the affidavit is untrue. Is it?

As I have said before, I do not think Obama was born in Kenya, I don’t believe that his mother, an 18 year old, traveled to Kenya to give birth. I don’t think there was some conspiracy created 47 years ago, Manchurian style, wrt Obama. That said, I do think it is weird he just won’t release his long form BC from Hawaii. McCain did.

I don’t believe his COLB to be official because it came from Daily Kos. I don’t believe those loons. It might be the real COLB, or an exact copy, but it has been proven over and over again how easy it is to recreate that COLB, so, again, because it was first posted at Kos, I don’t believe it. I don’t get why he won’t just put it to rest, and release his long form birth certificate. (I actually believe it perhaps has to do with his name, or that his mother wasn’t married or something…I just think it is weird he would rather fight it in court than just release it.) But I don’t doubt he was born in Hawaii.

But, I also think, being a Constitutional requirement, that the POTUS be a natural born citizen, it should be required to show proof. Some people want to say it is just because Obama is black, but that isn’t true. McCain was questioned on his birth right.

Also, Obama doesn’t really have well documented established roots in the US like other POTUS/candidates, does he? It seems there isn’t a whole lot of info available on him, records, etc. that seem to provide enough (lack of) evidence to doubters. His father’s arrival in America is even questionable based on Obama’s own misstatements.

Based on the changing environment in the US, it might not be a bad thing to establish some sort of requirement moving forward, to prove eligibility as required by the Constitution.

sarainitaly said:
I am asking if what McInerney states in the affidavit is untrue. Is it?

As I have said before, I do not think Obama was born in Kenya, I don’t believe that his mother, an 18 year old, traveled to Kenya to give birth. I don’t think there was some conspiracy created 47 years ago, Manchurian style, wrt Obama. That said, I do think it is weird he just won’t release his long form BC from Hawaii. McCain did.

I don’t believe his COLB to be official because it came from Daily Kos. I don’t believe those loons. It might be the real COLB, or an exact copy, but it has been proven over and over again how easy it is to recreate that COLB, so, again, because it was first posted at Kos, I don’t believe it. I don’t get why he won’t just put it to rest, and release his long form birth certificate. (I actually believe it perhaps has to do with his name, or that his mother wasn’t married or something…I just think it is weird he would rather fight it in court than just release it.) But I don’t doubt he was born in Hawaii.

But, I also think, being a Constitutional requirement, that the POTUS be a natural born citizen, it should be required to show proof. Some people want to say it is just because Obama is black, but that isn’t true. McCain was questioned on his birth right.

Also, Obama doesn’t really have well documented established roots in the US like other POTUS/candidates, does he? It seems there isn’t a whole lot of info available on him, records, etc. that seem to provide enough (lack of) evidence to doubters. His father’s arrival in America is even questionable based on Obama’s own misstatements.

Based on the changing environment in the US, it might not be a bad thing to establish some sort of requirement moving forward, to prove eligibility as required by the Constitution.

Sounds like you might actually be a conspiracy theorist sara. That’s too bad.

gordonbloyershow said:
Rachel Maddow has a show on MSNBC and is a global warming NUT. Talk about CRAZY.

Glad to see you can stay on topic Gordo. And did you ever wow us, as usual with command of facts!!

paulmdoro said:
Sounds like you might actually be a conspiracy theorist sara. That’s too bad.

yea, I can see how my telling you I am not leads you to believe I am….

I’ll ask again, is what McInerney states in the affidavit untrue?

sarainitaly said:
yea, I can see how my telling you I am not leads you to believe I am….

Your own words led me to that conclusion sara. You said you’re not and then followed that up with lengthy statements indicating otherwise.

sarainitaly said:
yea, I can see how my telling you I am not leads you to believe I am….

youre a birther lady. in one sentence you say youre not, but go on to type an essay arguing that something is amiss with is citizenry. can you clarify your position? if you dont believe the COLB, because FOX News wont broadcast it, and other outlets that have you dont credit, your a birther. stop acting like you have some legitimate argument, because you dont.

I wasn’t aware that people who don’t agree with RRK are automatically supporters of McInerney and believers of the birther conspiracy. Thanks for clearing that up, guys.

So, discussing both sides of an argument, and discussing the views of others makes me a “birther”? OK, whatever.

I said I don’t believe Daily Kos. I, as many others, have created our own identical COLB’s using the same template. As far as documents go, I wouldn’t bet my farm on something Daily Kos puts out. Do I find it curious that Obama just won’t release his long form BC, yes. Why shouldn’t I? Why don’t you?

I think I have a legitimate argument. Why is he fighting the release in court, as opposed to just releasing it, like McCain did? I don’t believe something is amiss with his citizenry, I think one reason he might not be releasing his long form BC is because his name is listed as Barry, or because his parents weren’t married or something. That is the only reason I can think of why he just doesn’t release it.

WRT my comments about lack of documents establishing roots – I am pointing out what gives “birthers” ammo. For example, George Bush has a well documented history, and past, and generational roots that his detractors could reference in trying to attack him/defend him. Obama seems to have a very confusing history, including his mangled stories about his father coming over because of Kennedy (which was untrue) and stuff like that, that is kerosene to the “birther’s” case. I don’t think discussing it makes me a “birther”.

That’s the problem with trying to discuss things – I point something out and people start flinging accusations.

As far as McInerney’s affidavit, you still aren’t answering my question.

Also, as I said above, based on the ever changing and confusing story that is America, do you think it outlandish to establish some sort of law moving forward that POTUS candidates prove eligibility?

It’s very simple… Who was the Hawaii doctor who delivered Barack Obama and in what facility did he/she deliver him? That is the still UNANSWERED QUESTION. Certificates of Birth are not the same as Live Birth Certificates. before she disappeared from the scene, I personally heard Obama’s aunt say she was present at his birth IN KENYA! If asking a politician for proof of his/her right to serve is being a “birther”, I proudly accept the label.

Liberal shout at the facts. Conservatives want to KNOW the facts. Let the truth speak. Simple.

And remember, politicians lie. Obama is a politician. I know it is hard to believe, but Obama does lie. He has lied, been busted lying and will continue to lie. So, don’t act all shocked when someone like me says he may be hiding his long form BC because he lied about his parents being married or his name is listed as Barry or something.

He lied when he said he attended church every Sunday at 11:30am, he lied when he said he didn’t know Wright said controversial things, he lied when he said he was born because of Selma, he lied when he said his dad came over because of Kennedy, he lied when he said his father served in WWI, his grandfather at Auschwitz, five days to review bills online, it not a tax, about his relationship with ACORN, the story of the lady in her sisters dentures, C-Span, federally funded abortion, “keeping your doctor”, his claiming he never supported single payer, won’t raise taxes, and all kinds of other lies! http://obamalies.net/obama16-lies-in-7-minutes.html

So, do I believe it possible that he is lying wrt what is on his long form birth certificate? Yes, I do.

But, logistics and common sense prevent me from believing that his mother traveled to Kenya to give birth.
They also prevent me from doubting that he is capable of lying.

The fact of the matter is that 0bama has NEVER produced any documentary evidence as to where he was born.

To BELIEVE he was born in Hawaii is just as off the wall as BELIEVING he was born in Kenya. There is no evidence available to us that either one is true. And the only reason for THAT is that 0bama refuses to release that information. This is circumstantial evidence (not PROOF) that 0bama has something to hide.

But don’t worry, the birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton’s people (were you aware of that? – a guy by the name of Phillip Berg is the man who made it all public). When the primaries for the 2012 election come around, and for some reason 0bama decides not to run for re-election, and Hillary steps up to fill the void, then we will have even MORE circumstantial evidence that 0bama is serving unconstitutionally as president.

Although Maddow is a PhD, she really does not have a talent for analysis, all she has is a talent for hating and ridiculing conservatives. She appears to be a heterophobe, which might explain her lifestyle, and therefore nullify a lot of her comments regarding the right-wing as she clearly has a major conflict of interest.

TexGEOas said:
It’s very simple… Who was the Hawaii doctor who delivered Barack Obama and in what facility did he/she deliver him? That is the still UNANSWERED QUESTION. Certificates of Birth are not the same as Live Birth Certificates. before she disappeared from the scene, I personally heard Obama’s aunt say she was present at his birth IN KENYA! If asking a politician for proof of his/her right to serve is being a “birther”, I proudly accept the label. Liberal shout at the facts. Conservatives want to KNOW the facts. Let the truth speak. Simple.

Don’t you think that if there was any evidence that the President was not an American citizen, that the Republican members of Congress would be shouting to the skies that he was illegitimate? Most of them are lawyers, and their staff, all highly educated, would be able to put together a case that he was not an American citizen. They have not. It is only the fringe groups on the right that think President Obama is not an American citizen, and the fringe groups on the left who think President Bush had anything to do with 9/11.

“McCain Campaign Investigated, Dismissed Obama Citizenship Rumors.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors

Who the heck is this little boy that keeps filling in for Maddow. I thought she was a grown woman.

If you have any doubt that Obama is qualified to be president by whatever rational you are either a racist or a complete fucking idiot.It’s a shame that a 3 star general would even consider this as a legitimate debate.It is not .There is no reason to argue this point or hear what a birther presents as some sort of made up conclusions.Forgot the 3rd reason rightwing politicians pandering to the ignorant birther vote.Pathetic.

chucken said:
If you have any doubt that Obama is qualified to be president by whatever rational you are either a racist or a complete fucking idiot.

Being “qualified” to be President and being legally able to be President (ie Constitutional) are two different things. 1). Yes Mr Obama is of age and is a US Citizen, born in Hawaii. 2). He has no business being in that chair because his highest qualification is that he can read a teleprompter.

moreliberty.so you agree that the birthers are either racists or idiots.What other choice is there?

In refusing to obey orders because of his doubts as to their legality, LTC Lakin has acted exactly as proper training dictates. That training mandates that he determine in his own conscience that an order is legal before obeying it…For the foregoing reasons, it is my opinion that LTC Lakin’s request for discovery relating to the President’s birth records in Hawaii is absolutely essential to determining not merely his guilt or innocence but to reassuring all military personnel once and for all for this President whether his service as Commander in Chief is Constitutionally proper….The invasion of his privacy in these records is utterly trivial compared to the issues at stake here. Our military MUST have confidence their Commander in Chief lawfully holds this office and absent which confidence grievous consequences may ensue.

I don’t think he is saying one way or the other on whether Obama is legit, I think he is addressing whether Lakin is following protocol, and that the military must have confidence that the CIC is legit – and releasing the long form BC would do just that – which is essential. Whether it’s right or wrong to think he might not be legit or be a “birther”, it doesn’t sound like what the general is saying is wrong wrt the military and CIC….? Does it?

Why not a beer summit, Rachael? 0bama, McInerny, and the American press? Put it to rest once and for all, Rach? Are you up to it, or will you just spout the liberal excuse: “he has already produced his BC”? Or some iteration thereof?

Maddow likes to pretend she is such a deep thinker, as do most that spout the “birther” label. Why does it never occur to these geniuses to ask why 0bama has spent so much time and energy not putting to rest? Why has he spent more than a million dollars to hide his long form BC? Doesn’t it just beg the question, Rachael???

Or, now with someones life and career on the line, why would 0bama choose to be complicit in the destruction of this man’s life? Terry Lakin has been to Afghanistan on numerous missions. He has proved his loyalty and bravery. He has shown love of country. He has had to show his birth certificate to be allowed to serve his country. And 0bama will let him twist in the wind. Wow, Rach, you know how to pick your heroes. Like the rest of your lefty liberal clown following. Hey Rach…NOvember!

Protocol Sara?When John Roberts swore in President Obama he became CIC and if you thought he might not be legit you either kept it yourself or quit the military.My God you are stupid.

chucken, maybe you can take a stab at this question: Why not sit down with McInerny, Lakin, and the free press with a beer and a long form BC?

Don’t like that question? How ’bout this one: How can 0bama watch this man go to prison over such a “trivial” issue??? He must be trying to show his superior leadership skills, huh? Does he want to punish Lt. Lakin for something?

How’s this one: why has 0bama spent millions to hide his long form BC?

Why does no one ask that these questions be answered, genius?

ONCE AGAIN:

“McCain Campaign Investigated, Dismissed Obama Citizenship Rumors.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/52474/mccain-campaign-investigated-dismissed-obama-citizenship-rumors

chucken said:
moreliberty.so you agree that the birthers are either racists or idiots.What other choice is there?

I have no clue what they are. Race has nothing to do with where you were born, so racism is out. I’d say they, like the truthers or “Bush knew about 9/11″ crowd, are pretty much idiots.

Chucen, you have it correct. those who question the Presidents place of birth are indeed racists. They want their country back to the days when only white men (not even women) ran it.

If you work at MSNBC do you get completely demoralized every time you go into a production meeting and are told to do stories on your more successful competitors?? I mean at some point the reality has to hit you like a ton of bricks. Rachel Maddow was a Rhodes Scholar who probably dreamed of one day being the next Cronkite. Now she is reduced to copping a smug smarmy attitude and report on how “Fox is stupid” day in and day out. MSNBC and their opinion show hosts come across like low self esteemed high school loners who spend all day plotting the demise of their more popular better looking rivals.

More Liberty said:
I’d say they, like the truthers or “Bush knew about 9/11″ crowd, are pretty much idiots.

Here, here! A prophet of the truth.

paulmdoro said:
Here, here! A prophet of the truth.

Yup.

More Liberty said:
Being “qualified” to be President and being legally able to be President (ie Constitutional) are two different things. 1). Yes Mr Obama is of age and is a US Citizen, born in Hawaii. 2). He has no business being in that chair because his highest qualification is that he can read a teleprompter.

Tell it like it is ML!

paulmdoro, any presidential campaign that was too frightened to use 0bama’s middle name because it was Hussein, CANNOT be trusted to hold any office in this country.

Any presidential campaign afraid of mentioning Rev Wright’s existence, deserves to be dismissed outright.

Furthermore: here is the conclusion, re: the extent of their “investigation” from your own link, read up:

“To the extent that we could, we looked into the substantive side of these allegations,” said Potter. “We never saw any evidence that then-Senator Obama had been born outside of the United States. We saw rumors, but nothing that could be sourced to evidence. There were no statements and no documents that suggested he was born somewhere else. On the other side, there was proof that he was born in Hawaii. There was a certificate issued by the state’s Department of Health, and the responsible official in the state saying that he had personally seen the original certificate. There was a birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser, which would be very difficult to invent or plant 47 years in advance.”

To the extent to which McCain has any relevance as it pertains to anything about 0bama, your defense is laughable.

ndanielson said:

To the extent to which McCain has any relevance as it pertains to anything about 0bama, your defense is laughable.

Nowhere near as laughable as a birther.

sarainitaly said:
So, discussing both sides of an argument, and discussing the views of others makes me a “birther”? OK, whatever. I said I don’t believe Daily Kos. I, as many others, have created our own identical COLB’s using the same template. As far as documents go, I wouldn’t bet my farm on something Daily Kos puts out. Do I find it curious that Obama just won’t release his long form BC, yes. Why shouldn’t I? Why don’t you? I think I have a legitimate argument. Why is he fighting the release in court, as opposed to just releasing it, like McCain did? I don’t believe something is amiss with his citizenry, I think one reason he might not be releasing his long form BC is because his name is listed as Barry, or because his parents weren’t married or something. That is the only reason I can think of why he just doesn’t release it. WRT my comments about lack of documents establishing roots – I am pointing out what gives “birthers” ammo. For example, George Bush has a well documented history, and past, and generational roots that his detractors could reference in trying to attack him/defend him. Obama seems to have a very confusing history, including his mangled stories about his father coming over because of Kennedy (which was untrue) and stuff like that, that is kerosene to the “birther’s” case. I don’t think discussing it makes me a “birther”. That’s the problem with trying to discuss things – I point something out and people start flinging accusations. As far as McInerney’s affidavit, you still aren’t answering my question. Also, as I said above, based on the ever changing and confusing story that is America, do you think it outlandish to establish some sort of law moving forward that POTUS candidates prove eligibility?

It is completly untrue and unfounded, and I’ll tell you why.

A soldier’s duty is to obey orders, not to question them. Therefore, the statement in the affidavit “That training mandates that he determine in his own conscience that an order is legal before obeying it” is not true.

If it was a soldier’s duty, on the battlefield, to question whether or not the order given to the is legal or not legal, how well do you think they would operate under those conditions. Are they going to pull out their phones and contact their lawyers for advice everytime they get an order from their commanding officer?

It’s ridiculous and phoney, just like your arguement. You could have avoided your entire birther diatribe and instead said, “Yes, my tinfoil hat is on tight. Obama is not an American.”

To question his citizenship is to question his mother’s citizenship. If she is an American, then he is an American…that’s how it works in this country and that’s why the arguement is so utterly ridiculous.

Does anyone even bother to look up the law?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d4c3a3ac86aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d4c3a3ac86aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

A child automatically becomes a U.S. citizen when all of the following conditions have been met under section 320 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended by the Child Citizenship Act (CCA):

- At least one parent of the child is a U.S. citizen, whether by birth or naturalization.
- The child is under the age of 18 years.
- The child is residing in the United States in the legal and physical custody of the U.S. citizen parent based on a lawful admission for permanent residence.
- An adopted child may automatically become a citizen under section 320 of the INA if the child satisfies the requirements applicable to adopted children under sections 101(b)(1)(E), (F) or (G) of the INA. See the “INA” link to the right.

Now will the birthers stop this insanity already, there is no question that Obama’s mother is a U.S. citizen.

maybe they’ll start to question whether or not it’s his real mother, next “newsflash” on FAUX!

ndanielson,OK I’m now in the birther shithole with you.When you request a BC from Hawaii you get what Obama posted on his campaign website you do not get a long form.Obama probably could get the long form but that would sink to your level and the posted BC is somehow a fake?That would be the greatest crime in American history.Obama is not spending millions.Have you seen a White House lawyer in court talking birther?The birthers requests get shitcanned.And sit down with those two fucking idiots?And do what?Nobody cares that is not a fucking racist or idiot.

The military. (My military): “A 3rd rate career for 3rd rate people. Offering a sort of skimpy security in return for 20 or 30 years of polite penal servitude.” (Caine Mutiny)

The birther issue is a joke. When I first started getting e-mails about this I laughed. As a campaign consultant myself, I believe that would have come out long before the presidetial election. Then Hillary raised the question. Since Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen it did not matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or not. But the birthers kept persisting and Obama would not show his birth certificate so that was suspicious. So I did something no one else seems to have thought of, I decided to check the citizenship laws at the time Obama was born. How dare anyone check for the facts. As I suspected, I WAS RIGHT. If Obama was born outside of the U.S. to his citizen mother, he was a citizen. The stipulation in effect at that time was that he could return to the U.S. anytime up to his 18th birthday and live for six months in the country then he was a citizen. It is clear that Obama had been here for years prior to his eighteenth birthday. SOOOOOOOOOOO, NONE of this matters.
He was born in Hawaii, as reported in the newspapers at the time. The Hospitals listed births in the papers and they are not sent in by the parents. So you have to be super dumb to believe the hospitals, doctors and the government are all co-conspiritors. NONSENSE. Just like the NWO, Illuminati, CFR and WTC conspiracies are NONSENSE. Try doing something unusual, check the facts.

There are not many things Rachel likes better than defending the President’s birth certificate. But it gets much harder to defend his track record as President. And that’s why MSNBC hosts prefer to cover the birther non-story. Hey, Rachel, maybe you can spend some air time looking at unemployment, GDP, housing starts, consumer confidence, etc. instead of ranting about a piece of paper from 1961.

Spine, it looks like we were posting the same thing at the same time. You got something right for once.

gordonbloyershow said:
The birther issue is a joke. When I first started getting e-mails about this I laughed. As a campaign consultant myself, I believe that would have come out long before the presidetial election. Then Hillary raised the question. Since Obama’s mother was a U.S. citizen it did not matter if Obama was born in Hawaii or not. But the birthers kept persisting and Obama would not show his birth certificate so that was suspicious. So I did something no one else seems to have thought of, I decided to check the citizenship laws at the time Obama was born. How dare anyone check for the facts. As I suspected, I WAS RIGHT. If Obama was born outside of the U.S. to his citizen mother, he was a citizen. The stipulation in effect at that time was that he could return to the U.S. anytime up to his 18th birthday and live for six months in the country then he was a citizen. It is clear that Obama had been here for years prior to his eighteenth birthday. SOOOOOOOOOOO, NONE of this matters.
He was born in Hawaii, as reported in the newspapers at the time. The Hospitals listed births in the papers and they are not sent in by the parents. So you have to be super dumb to believe the hospitals, doctors and the government are all co-conspiritors. NONSENSE. Just like the NWO, Illuminati, CFR and WTC conspiracies are NONSENSE. Try doing something unusual, check the facts.

Wow. Good post Gordon.

chucken said:
you either kept it yourself or quit the military.My God you are stupid.

I wasn’t aware that you could just *quit* the military.

“A soldier’s duty is to obey orders, not to question them.”

…disobedience of manifestly unlawful orders is not only permissible but is also required. Carrying out a manifestly unlawful order is an offence, and, as previously noted, commanders, as well as subordinates, may be held personally and criminally responsible for illegal acts. The critical criterion in deciding to disobey is that the authorized disobedience of a command must be based on manifest illegality and not on a differing moral choice. This dilemma of moral choice versus the duty of obedience arises perhaps most compellingly in international operations

http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/cfli-ilfc/lea/conc/ch3-eng.asp

Sounds like taking orders from someone you doubt is legally eligible to give those orders might qualify…?

Also, I recall the trials of Nuremberg found that the soldiers should have disobeyed orders, and didn’t the soldiers at Abu Ghraib get in trouble for *following orders*?

“the International Military Tribunal which oversaw the proceedings at Nuremberg rejected this defense, arguing that individuals had an obligation to disobey orders which violate international law.”

So, (and granted, I don’t know much about Lankin’s case, and was only discussing the General’s involvement) but couldn’t Lankin make his case because the CIC in engaged in war it affects international law, and therefore he wants to be sure the CIC is eligible to give those orders? And yes, he was sworn in as CIC, but isn’t Lankin questioning his eligibility for that position?

And spine crusher, I am not questioning Obama’s citizenship, nor doubting that he is an American. I know reading and comprehension are hard, but try.

Seperated at Birth……Rachel Maddow and PeeWee Herman

i know, chucken, he deserves to go to prison for even questioning 0bama. I get it, now. Genius. Besides, 0bama is way to busy to even care about Lt. Lakin. Please run for office soon. You liberals would run this country like a well oiled machine, dude.

So following orders to murder or torture others is comparable to following orders from a president whose citizenship you question? Your own posts make you sound like a doubter sara. Did you read Gordon and Spine’s posts? If his mother is a citizen, he is too. Simple as that.

Sara,like Dr Laura you can say the N-word on radio 11 times and you can question the president’s authority on any grounds.And your superiors can fire your ass because Lankin’s superiors determined that he is a fucking idiot and disruptive to the military.And the Abu Ghraib and Nurembeg comparisons is the reason we should IQ tests before someone can post on the internet.

sarainitaly said:
I wasn’t aware that you could just *quit* the military. “A soldier’s duty is to obey orders, not to question them.” http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/cfli-ilfc/lea/conc/ch3-eng.asp Sounds like taking orders from someone you doubt is legally eligible to give those orders might qualify…? Also, I recall the trials of Nuremberg found that the soldiers should have disobeyed orders, and didn’t the soldiers at Abu Ghraib get in trouble for *following orders*? “the International Military Tribunal which oversaw the proceedings at Nuremberg rejected this defense, arguing that individuals had an obligation to disobey orders which violate international law.” So, (and granted, I don’t know much about Lankin’s case, and was only discussing the General’s involvement) but couldn’t Lankin make his case because the CIC in engaged in war it affects international law, and therefore he wants to be sure the CIC is eligible to give those orders? And yes, he was sworn in as CIC, but isn’t Lankin questioning his eligibility for that position? And spine crusher, I am not questioning Obama’s citizenship, nor doubting that he is an American. I know reading and comprehension are hard, but try.

It’s not reading and comprehension that are hard, it is communicating your stance that is obviously difficult.

It is the duty of the individual communicating the information to communicate it clearly…it is very obvious that your stance on this issue, or your communicating of your stance on the issue, has everyone confused.

So the duty falls upon yourself to communicate your issue clearly, it is not the job of the person receiving your communication to make sense of your nonsensical postings.

What I don’t understand is why you would even give the birther question a second thought. You now know the laws, why do you bother? Is it driven by ego?

ndanielson,he ain’t going to prison Lankin just ruined his military career by believing you lowlife birthers.

That’s why Orly Taitz owes the government $20G for taking the birther arguements to the courts. Her separate appeals to both Thomas and Roberts on the Supreme Court were both rejected, and then she claims she’ll appeal it again…to whom?

Are you sure these are the types of people who want to stand behind?

sarainitaly said:
I wasn’t aware that you could just *quit* the military. “A soldier’s duty is to obey orders, not to question them.” http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/cfli-ilfc/lea/conc/ch3-eng.asp Sounds like taking orders from someone you doubt is legally eligible to give those orders might qualify…? Also, I recall the trials of Nuremberg found that the soldiers should have disobeyed orders, and didn’t the soldiers at Abu Ghraib get in trouble for *following orders*? “the International Military Tribunal which oversaw the proceedings at Nuremberg rejected this defense, arguing that individuals had an obligation to disobey orders which violate international law.” So, (and granted, I don’t know much about Lankin’s case, and was only discussing the General’s involvement) but couldn’t Lankin make his case because the CIC in engaged in war it affects international law, and therefore he wants to be sure the CIC is eligible to give those orders? And yes, he was sworn in as CIC, but isn’t Lankin questioning his eligibility for that position? And spine crusher, I am not questioning Obama’s citizenship, nor doubting that he is an American. I know reading and comprehension are hard, but try.

and yes, you have proven my point!! Soldiers in both Abu Ghirab and Nuremburg were held responsible for the orders they followed because THAT’S HOW THE MILITARY WORKS!

If you refuse to follow orders, you will be court marshalled, even if those orders are found illegal. You can later challenge it in court…BUT ON THE BATTLEFIELD YOU DO NOT QUESTION ORDERS!!!

Please stop trying to comment on military issues, because you obviously have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

It’s funny the geniuses Gordon and spine couldn’t read their own fabricated “proof” before spouting further ignorance.

A child automatically becomes a U.S. citizen when all of the following conditions have been met under section 320 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended by the Child Citizenship Act (CCA):

Oh, yeah. 0bama did meet all the qualifications except for this:
Individuals who were age 18 or older on February 27, 2001, do not qualify for citizenship under section 320 of the INA as amended by the CCA.

How old was 0bama in 2001??? Idiots. Your little cached page is quite the hack job, too.

Here’s a legitimate one: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_826.html

Spine clown, when was the last time the CIC was on the battlefield??? There is time to question the CIC legitimacy, and therefore it is relevant, legal and should have more consequences than a liberal Clinton appointee judge dismissing it, and liberal clowns defense of it by merely name calling. And you obviously know noting of the military code of justice, as Sara schools you quite handily while remaining quite civil about it. Clown.

With a real human and career on the line, not a hypothetical one, why does your boy, 0bama, hide? It is no secret that he has spent over a million dollars to do so, why? Why does he want to allow this man to languish? Step up, 0bama! Is what I would say. Your boy is a chicken clown and coward.

chucken, I think Lt. Larkin is intelligent enough to have his own beliefs. Idiot. Too bad he was willing to put his life on the line for clowns like you. Why won’t your boy sit down with Larkin and McInerny, again? Too busy to save a known hero who had to show his own birth cert to enter Afghanistan?

ndaniel, my reference was to the law at the time Obama was born. NO other law applies at any other time, idiot.
The citizenship laws have had minor changes over the years but you cannot go back and change them for the people covered at the time. Can you read? I said………………………..

I decided to check the citizenship laws at the time Obama was born. How dare anyone check for the facts. As I suspected, I WAS RIGHT. If Obama was born outside of the U.S. to his citizen mother, he was a citizen. The stipulation in effect at that time was that he could return to the U.S. anytime up to his 18th birthday and live for six months in the country then he was a citizen. It is clear that Obama had been here for years prior to his eighteenth birthday. SOOOOOOOOOOO, NONE of this matters.

So I don’t care what Obama’s age was in 2001, idiot. It does not matter what his age was in 2001, IDIOT.
I have no idea what cached page you are talking about. I got my information from checking the history of citizenship laws in the U.S. IDIOT.

and for the clowns, chucken, spineclown, and paulmdoro, Lt. Lakin has put his life and career on the line, not only numerous times in Afghanistan, but by the consequences of this act, he is standing by his principles and what he believes in. This act, alone, and this man show more character and conviction than 0bama could ever hope to have. I believe that being merely in Larkin’s presence your boy, 0bama, would wet his pants. Man meets boy, boy wets himself. What a coward.

ndanielson said:
and for the clowns, chucken, spineclown, and paulmdoro, Lt. Lakin has put his life and career on the line, not only numerous times in Afghanistan, but by the consequences of this act, he is standing by his principles and what he believes in. This act, alone, and this man show more character and conviction than 0bama could ever hope to have. I believe that being merely in Larkin’s presence your boy, 0bama, would wet his pants. Man meets boy, boy wets himself. What a coward.

Serving our country is admirable. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a birther loon.

My god, this woman can go on forever, and not say anything worth hearing!

your link, or spine clown’s is a cached page, put up by whom??? Idiot. Answer the question, genius: Why not sit down with Larkin, McInerny and the press with his long form BC??? Idiot. Put it to rest idiot. He has never shown his long form BC to anyone! Why? Idiot.

SpineCrusher said:
Soldiers in both Abu Ghirab and Nuremburg were held responsible for the orders they followed because THAT’S HOW THE MILITARY WORKS!

If you refuse to follow orders, you will be court marshalled, even if those orders are found illegal. You can later challenge it in court…BUT ON THE BATTLEFIELD YOU DO NOT QUESTION ORDERS!!!

Please stop trying to comment on military issues, because you obviously have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

That’s not what the law says, or what the Nuremberg trials decided.

the trials of Nuremberg found that the soldiers should have disobeyed orders, and didn’t the soldiers at Abu Ghraib get in trouble for *following orders*?

“the International Military Tribunal which oversaw the proceedings at Nuremberg rejected this defense, arguing that individuals had an obligation to disobey orders which violate international law.”

SpineCrusher said:
it is very obvious that your stance on this issue, or your communicating of your stance on the issue, has everyone confused.

“As I have said before, I do not think Obama was born in Kenya, I don’t believe that his mother, an 18 year old, traveled to Kenya to give birth. I don’t think there was some conspiracy created 47 years ago, Manchurian style, wrt Obama.”

I don’t know how I could be any more clear….

I thought we were *discussing*. I don’t see how discussing arguments that are made by the “other side” constitute believing in those arguments, or even defending them. I am DISCUSSING them. Open your minds people. It doesn’t hurt to have debate. Is it really necessary to call people names, and insult?

I provide backup saying that it is a soldiers duty to disobey illegal orders and am told I don’t know what I am talking about…. When I quote the law, RIGHT there!

I provide proof that the soldiers in Nurhmberg were charged for *obeying* illegal orders that they had a duty to disobey and am told I don’t know what I am talking about.

I am called stupid because I don’t know that it is the “soldiers responsibility to just quit” if he doesn’t believe the CIC is eligible, but yet, a soldier can’t just quit the military…. But I’m called stupid?

Really…why do I bother. *sigh*

paulmdoro: Then just offer some reasonable answer to the question: why. wont. 0bama. sit. down. with. his. long form BC. and. save. this. man???? What is his reason not to??? Is it admirable the way 0bama is treating an admirable man?

ndanielson said:
paulmdoro: Then just offer some reasonable answer to the question: why. wont. 0bama. sit. down. with. his. long form BC. and. save. this. man???? What is his reason not to??? Is it admirable the way 0bama is treating an admirable man?

The leader of the free world probably believes that he has more important duties than sitting down with some birther lunatic. Do we really expect the president to sit down with every single loon, service-member or otherwise?

ndanielson said:
your link, or spine clown’s is a cached page, put up by whom??? Idiot. Answer the question, genius: Why not sit down with Larkin, McInerny and the press with his long form BC??? Idiot. Put it to rest idiot. He has never shown his long form BC to anyone! Why? Idiot.

talk about tinfoil hat wearing! OMFG! That is the U.S. Government site on Immigration and Citizenship..HAHAHA!!!

- Do a google search for “immigration” which will lead you to the website fo the U.S. Citizenship & Immigration Services
- Click on the link for “Citizenship through Parents”
- On the left side-bar, click on “Biological or Adopted Children Living in the United States”

now was that so hard?

paulmdoro, why will 0bama just watch this man wreck his career? WTF??? Offer some explaination ‘cmon. Rationalize it. I just want to hear your reason. Why not, just for giggles hold a press conference and hold the damn thing up to Lt. Larkin, McInerny and the press and be done with it!?

ndanielson said:
paulmdoro, why will 0bama just watch this man wreck his career? WTF??? Offer some explaination ‘cmon. Rationalize it. I just want to hear your reason. Why not, just for giggles hold a press conference and hold the damn thing up to Lt. Larkin, McInerny and the press and be done with it!?

And then hold a press conference with other lunatics who believe he is a Muslim? Seriously, why should be bother? To make a bunch of paranoid, delusional conspiracy-theorists happy? Those people don’t deserve the satisfaction.

HAHAHA!! Mr Smarty pants was linking the the “Child Citizenship Act Of 2000″ which, of course, would only relate to children born after 2001.

Wow! This guy is a classic misinformational propagandist!

ndanielson said:
paulmdoro, why will 0bama just watch this man wreck his career? WTF??? Offer some explaination ‘cmon. Rationalize it. I just want to hear your reason. Why not, just for giggles hold a press conference and hold the damn thing up to Lt. Larkin, McInerny and the press and be done with it!?

You only person who is wrecked is your credibility, especially after refuting the current US law by posting a link to the “Child Citizenship Act of 2000″

YOU SIR HAVE FAILED!!

SpineCrusher said:
HAHAHA!! Mr Smarty pants was linking the the “Child Citizenship Act Of 2000″ which, of course, would only relate to children born after 2001.

Wow! This guy is a classic misinformational propagandist!

Got that right. A little unstable as well. Which is no laughing matter. Probably needs serious help.

spine clown here is the link, I already posted: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_826.html that is the full page of your bastardized link.
Now about you answering the question. C’mon lets hear your liberal twisting to answer: Why not sit down with Larkin, McInerny and the press with his long form BC??? Idiot. Put it to rest idiot. He has never shown his long form BC to anyone! Why? Idiot. You can’t do it without showing your pure ignorance, is why. Defend 0bama’s position hero!

here the genius paulmdor’s non- answer as expected, (note the rational thinking of liberals) always a non-answer from a clown: The leader of the free world probably believes that he has more important duties than sitting down with some birther lunatic. Do we really expect the president to sit down with every single loon, service-member or otherwise?

deep. wow.

ndanielson said:
spine clown here is the link, I already posted: http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_826.html that is the full page of your bastardized link.Now about you answering the question. C’mon lets hear your liberal twisting to answer: Why not sit down with Larkin, McInerny and the press with his long form BC??? Idiot. Put it to rest idiot. He has never shown his long form BC to anyone! Why? Idiot. You can’t do it without showing your pure ignorance, is why. Defend 0bama’s position hero!

Once again, that is a link to the “Child Citizenship Act of 2000″, do you not understand that you are linking to something that has nothing to do with the discussion?

Everyone has already put it to rest. It’s a dead issue, beat your head against the wall all you want, the facts are in and the Jury is out (including the Supreme Court). Obama is a legal American Citizen.

spine clown you are the one that posted this: SpineCrusher says:
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Does anyone even bother to look up the law?

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d4c3a3ac86aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d4c3a3ac86aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD

Idiot.

Dude, read it

“A person who was over the age of 18 on February 27, 2001, may, however, be a citizen under the law in effect prior to the enactment of the CCA. If you believe this may apply to you, please see the “Contact Us” link to the right to call our National Customer Service Center.”

I just found the real link you cut and pasted to back up your ignorant argument. None of you clowns will answer why this 0bama clown will let a man go down just to hide his long form BC. None of you can justify it without attacking the person questioning the motives of your boy-hero, 0bama.

the law was enacted in 2000, it doesn’t take away the citizenry of people who already had citizenship…what the hell are you smokin?

chucken said:
And the Abu Ghraib and Nurembeg comparisons is the reason we should IQ tests before someone can post on the internet.

Why so?

Is Obama ordering air strikes in Afghanistan, which result in civilian deaths? If a soldier believes that the CIC is ineligible to give those orders, which result in civilian casualties, it seems a fair comparison to those situations.

Oh, and I forgot to add this earlier – as I recall, even though Bush was sworn in as CIC, there were a whole lotta people who felt he stole the election and that he was an illegitimate CIC.

It’s not like we haven’t seen this stuff before.

ndanielson said:
I just found the real link you cut and pasted to back up your ignorant argument. None of you clowns will answer why this 0bama clown will let a man go down just to hide his long form BC. None of you can justify it without attacking the person questioning the motives of your boy-hero, 0bama.

You’re funny. Is this all an act? It has to be.

sarainitaly said:
Why so? Is Obama ordering air strikes in Afghanistan, which result in civilian deaths? If a soldier believes that the CIC is ineligible to give those orders, which result in civilian casualties, it seems a fair comparison to those situations. Oh, and I forgot to add this earlier – as I recall, even though Bush was sworn in as CIC, there were a whole lotta people who felt he stole the election and that he was an illegitimate CIC. It’s not like we haven’t seen this stuff before.

no where comparable to the level it’s at now…don’t even try

SpineCrusher says:
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Dude, read it

“A person who was over the age of 18 on February 27, 2001, may, however, be a citizen under the law in effect prior to the enactment of the CCA. If you believe this may apply to you, please see the “Contact Us” link to the right to call our National Customer Service Center.”

Dude try to comprehend it. It says he may APPLY for citizenship.

And you still cant answer the question. Why wont your boy save Larkin? What’s he hiding? Bummer, huh?

paulmdoro said:
You’re funny. Is this all an act? It has to be.

It might be an Anon /btard for all we know…just trolling for fun.

SpineCrusher said:
the law was enacted in 2000, it doesn’t take away the citizenry of people who already had citizenship…what the hell are you smokin?

So this loon is arguing that the updated law retroactively takes away Obama’s citizenship?

ndanielson said:
SpineCrusher says:September 2, 2010 at 3:48 pm SpineCrusher(Quote)Thumb up 0 Thumb down 0 Dude, read it “A person who was over the age of 18 on February 27, 2001, may, however, be a citizen under the law in effect prior to the enactment of the CCA. If you believe this may apply to you, please see the “Contact Us” link to the right to call our National Customer Service Center.” Dude try to comprehend it. It says he may APPLY for citizenship. And you still cant answer the question. Why wont your boy save Larkin? What’s he hiding? Bummer, huh?

your “boy”? nice, man…really? You think that legitimizes you in any way?

paulmdoro said:
So this loon is arguing that the updated law retroactively takes away Obama’s citizenship?

yup! It means anyone who had citizenship before the law went into effect has now lost their citizenship!! OH NO! Watch out for the INS everyone!

here, you go paulmdoro, spine clown and clucken, the answer you won’t give: HE IS HIDING SOMETHING. there, see how easy it is? Idiots. He couldn’t save a soldier anyway, because he hates the military, and has contempt for America. But cheer him on liberal clowns.

More Liberty said:
Who the heck is this little boy that keeps filling in for Maddow. I thought she was a grown woman.

Your are such a bigot.

ndanielson said:
here, you go paulmdoro, spine clown and clucken, the answer you won’t give: HE IS HIDING SOMETHING. there, see how easy it is? Idiots. He couldn’t save a soldier anyway, because he hates the military, and has contempt for America. But cheer him on liberal clowns.

The only person who can save Larkin is himself. Figure it out.

This is the last time I’m going to respond to your ridiculous rants…you are on a timeout.

alamo2 said:
Your are such a bigot.

he posts that same thing for every RM article…so clever, so creative, eh?

Not you Alamo2…the guy who always says

More Liberty said:
Who the heck is this little boy that keeps filling in for Maddow. I thought she was a grown woman

ndanielson said:
here, you go paulmdoro, spine clown and clucken, the answer you won’t give: HE IS HIDING SOMETHING. there, see how easy it is? Idiots. He couldn’t save a soldier anyway, because he hates the military, and has contempt for America. But cheer him on liberal clowns.

I’d say your refusal to acknowledge the law while believing the president is not a citizen shows contempt for America.

spine clown: your “boy”? nice, man…really? You think that legitimizes you in any way?

You idiot. Yes I do. It is sad that it is requested of a BOY (0bama) to save a man (Lt. Larkin). A sad day in America when we must ask a boy to save a man. A petulant little man-child – 0bama.

ndanielson said:
spine clown: your “boy”? nice, man…really? You think that legitimizes you in any way?

You idiot. Yes I do. It is sad that it is requested of a BOY (0bama) to save a man (Lt. Larkin). A sad day in America when we must ask a boy to save a man. A petulant little man-child – 0bama.

You calling someone else a man-child? Priceless. Irony is clearly lost on you.

paulmdoro: I’d say your refusal to acknowledge the law while believing the president is not a citizen shows contempt for America.

And big brave 0bama will let him lose his career. What a man of character and principle. 0bama.

This article is written by the senior editor on this board and his filled with errors.

How sad.

Colby will do anything to attempt to give his MSNBC buddies some words….but in this case, Colby’s use of the english language is atrocious.

Rachel, like Keith, Chris, and the rest of MSNBC anchors/hosts can’t do a show without highlighting FNC. It’s great they are pushing their viewers over to FNC for viewers to find out for themselves what the supposed bru-ha-ha is.

SpineCrusher said:
no where comparable to the level it’s at now…don’t even try

Are you referring to the Bush hysteria about *selected, not elected* not being comparable? Are you kidding?

I’d say your refusal to acknowledge the law while believing the president is not a citizen shows contempt for America. Says the genius paulmdoro.

i’d say your boy’s refusal to save this man from court martial shows contempt for the man, the military and a contempt for citizens right to know the truth as to the reasoning behind it, idiot.

spine clown quips: he posts that same thing for every RM article…so clever, so creative, eh?

kinda like posting fake links to bastardized pages.

0bama is an insult to all in military uniform. He is an affront to the honor and character to all that serve. His followers on this thread show the type of tactics and character exhibited by this American hating fool. His wife had never found anything to be proud about America for until 0bama ran was nominated for POTUS. At least she has found something. 0bama the boy-clown never will, which is why he will be the reason for a pounding in NOvember.

sarainitaly said:
Are you referring to the Bush hysteria about *selected, not elected* not being comparable? Are you kidding?

He did not win the election as he didn’t win the majority of American votes. It was decided by the courts in Florida, not the American people. Hanging chads, remember?

..completely different issue than whether or not Obama is an American citizen. Even the Supreme Court won’t touch that issue.

SpineCrusher said:
no where comparable to the level it’s at now…don’t even try

Why are you ignoring the comments I wrote about how you got the law wrong on disobeying orders, as well as the conclusions of the trials?

sarainitaly said:
Why are you ignoring the comments I wrote about how you got the law wrong on disobeying orders, as well as the conclusions of the trials?

Because I know the difference between the law and what is expected of you while you’re in the military. They are at odds and always will be.

So you still feel that soldiers should question their commanding officers when they’re given an order on the battlefield?

“Sir, yes Sir! But I must check with my lawyer before following that order, Sir!”

not gonna happen..it’s just not

the idiot spine crusher still not over the fact that the electoral college decides the outcome, as spelled out by the US Constitution. Not one of the 8 recounts found Gore to be winner. Kinda like Murray in WA and the under qualified and sanctimonious clown Al Franken in MN, they wanted and tried to find more ballots that were mysteriously ALL for their hero. What are the odds? hey spine clown, dont you fools always say: get over it??? Your boy Algore lost. Get over it. Idiot.

SpineCrusher said:
Because I know the difference between the law and what is expected of you while you’re in the military. They are at odds and always will be. So you still feel that soldiers should question their commanding officers when they’re given an order on the battlefield? “Sir, yes Sir! But I must check with my lawyer before following that order, Sir!” not gonna happen..it’s just not

and once again, a complete tangent from the discussion because you know that your original post was ludicrous and that the General questioning the legitimacy of citizenship of the POTUS is ridiculous, so you change the subject…typical.

SpineCrusher said:
He did not win the election as he didn’t win the majority of American votes. It was decided by the courts in Florida, not the American people. Hanging chads, remember?

..completely different issue than whether or not Obama is an American citizen. Even the Supreme Court won’t touch that issue.

Bush didn’t win the election? I thought the court decision was that he did win, thus won the delegates needed to win the Presidency.

Obama didn’t win the majority of votes in the primary, either. It was decided over MI and FL, and delegates that they took from Hillary and gave to Obama. So…does that mean Obama too, was selected, not elected?

Also, I am talking about the belief by some, even though he was sworn in as CIC, that he was actually an illegitimate president – which is the same thing as those who believe Obama is illegitimate. They were both sworn in as CIC, but there were people who still felt they were illegitimate.

sarainitaly, they can’t answer the questions, because there is no answer other than their boy is a coward, American bashing fool. As I said, at least his wife says she is NOW proud of America. He hasn’t said it. And I wouldn’t believe a word out of his mouth if he did.

ndaniel, you need to quit making a fool out of yourself. It is clear that you have no idea about how the law works. Since I am one the leading opponents of Obama save your nonsense about me being a liberal. The facts are the facts and you can’t change them.

You are doing what most of the lefties that post here do. They just keep repeating nonsense even when they know it is not true.

Obama is on the way out. The dems are going down big time in November. Wait till you hear the crying and the lies coming from them after that.

SpineCrusher said:
and once again, a complete tangent from the discussion because you know that your original post was ludicrous and that the General questioning the legitimacy of citizenship of the POTUS is ridiculous, so you change the subject…typical.

Uh…no. I was discussing the actual affidavit of the case, and you wrote this:

It is completly untrue and unfounded, and I’ll tell you why.

A soldier’s duty is to obey orders, not to question them. Therefore, the statement in the affidavit “That training mandates that he determine in his own conscience that an order is legal before obeying it” is not true.

If it was a soldier’s duty, on the battlefield, to question whether or not the order given to the is legal or not legal, how well do you think they would operate under those conditions. Are they going to pull out their phones and contact their lawyers for advice everytime they get an order from their commanding officer?

I proved you wrong, now you say the law doesn’t matter….

And Obama and Lankin are not on the battlefield, are they?

…disobedience of manifestly unlawful orders is not only permissible but is also required. Carrying out a manifestly unlawful order is an offence, and, as previously noted, commanders, as well as subordinates, may be held personally and criminally responsible for illegal acts. The critical criterion in deciding to disobey is that the authorized disobedience of a command must be based on manifest illegality and not on a differing moral choice. This dilemma of moral choice versus the duty of obedience arises perhaps most compellingly in international operations

http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/cfli-ilfc/lea/conc/ch3-eng.asp

ndanielson said:
the idiot spine crusher still not over the fact that the electoral college decides the outcome, as spelled out by the US Constitution. Not one of the 8 recounts found Gore to be winner. Kinda like Murray in WA and the under qualified and sanctimonious clown Al Franken in MN, they wanted and tried to find more ballots that were mysteriously ALL for their hero. What are the odds? hey spine clown, dont you fools always say: get over it??? Your boy Algore lost. Get over it. Idiot.

Every single recount showed that Gore won the majority of votes and yes I understand Bush won the votes of the electoral colleges and by our Constitution that’s what determines the presidency.

Florida’s 25 electoral votes, which GAVE him the presidency were provided to him by the Florida’s Supreme Court when they ruled that no alternative method could be established within the time limits set by the State of Florida to recount the votes properly.

That is why that issue stands in the minds as people as Bush being the first POTUS who was not elected by the people. It is a very contentious issue and will remain so in the history books. However, it has no bearing on Bush himself, but how the POTUS was decided in 2000.

But unlike the MN and WA elections, they HAD all of the ballots in FL and could have recounted them again.

Completely seperate legals issues and finding compared to the legitimacy of Obama….there is no doubt that he beat McCain/Palin, his legitimacy is being questioned on completely seperate grounds….his citizenship, which is an idiotic joke of an issue.

Was his mother an American citizen? Yes? Then drop it already…anyone who cannot read the simplicity of that law is looking for reasons not to accept him as the CIC, that’s all their is to it. They don’t like their boss, they have every right not to…but when you’re in the military it’s a different story. You have agreed to follow the CIC, no matter what your political/religious/bigoted leanings are.

sarainitaly said:
Uh…no. I was discussing the actual affidavit of the case, and you wrote this: I proved you wrong, now you say the law doesn’t matter…. And Obama and Lankin are not on the battlefield, are they? …disobedience of manifestly unlawful orders is not only permissible but is also required. Carrying out a manifestly unlawful order is an offence, and, as previously noted, commanders, as well as subordinates, may be held personally and criminally responsible for illegal acts. The critical criterion in deciding to disobey is that the authorized disobedience of a command must be based on manifest illegality and not on a differing moral choice. This dilemma of moral choice versus the duty of obedience arises perhaps most compellingly in international operations http://www.cda-acd.forces.gc.ca/cfli-ilfc/lea/conc/ch3-eng.asp

and Lankin will be held responsible for his insubordination and disobedience…nuff said.

gordonbloyershow hey dummy, please feel free to answer: Why won’t your boy sit down with Lt. Larkin, McInerny, the press and set this issue straight??? Gimme your best guess even! All they want to see is the Long form BC. Why wont your boy provide it? Answer the question. Tell me some legitimate reason! A man is going to have his career wrecked for something he believes in: WHAT IS THE BELIEF 0BAMA HOLDS THAT IS PREVENTING HIM FROM PUTTING THIS ISSUES TO REST????

HERE’S YOUR BOY SpineCrusher’s answer: and Lankin will be held responsible for his insubordination and disobedience…nuff said.

And 0bama is going to watch it happen because….nuff said. He’s a coward is WHY. Nuff said.

SpineCrusher, NO, idiot. I voted for Gore, so I know damn well how the recount went. I was pissed every time they announced the same results and kept counting.. i was pleased and changed to know that Bush had a spine, unlike your hero who (for what reason you will not answer or your clown friends, either) cannot even bring himself to save Lt. Lakins future. Wow.

Why won’t he produce his long form bc to save Lakin? Is Lakin too white?

here is what spine clown, gordonblower and paulmdoro will run with, now…. racist. And never answer the question, because there is no justifiable reason for 0bama to wreck this man’s career for his beliefs. His beliefs are strong enough to have him do this, but the geniuses, spine clown, gordonblower and paulmdoro can offer no strong belief 0bama has for allowing the ruining of this man’s career. Maybe Larkin is too white, huh boys? it seems as good as any reason you are able to offer.

ndanielson said:
SpineCrusher, NO, idiot. I voted for Gore, so I know damn well how the recount went. I was pissed every time they announced the same results and kept counting.. i was pleased and changed to know that Bush had a spine, unlike your hero who (for what reason you will not answer or your clown friends, either) cannot even bring himself to save Lt. Lakins future. Wow. Why won’t he produce his long form bc to save Lakin? Is Lakin too white?

Ok. last time….

First of all, the Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate.

I don’t know how you couldn’t already know this.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Second, Lakin is the one who CHOSE to get involved in this situation. He is the only person who is responsible for his own actions (personal responsibility anyone?), not the POTUS.

You cannot save people from themselves.

Third, you need help man…seriously. Save yourself, log off the internet and go see your doctor. I’m pretty sure some low grade meds like Zoloft will help you out significantly, and I don’t mean that as a dis…it’s just apparent that you have some issues and you need help. Please seek it out before something bad happens to you or someone else who disagrees with you.

no wonder Michelle 0bama had never been proud of her country before. Their entire party is dependent on spineless punks who blame America first and wouldn’t know character and honor if it bit them. Throw an honorable man who served his country to the wolves because he sticks up for what he believes in. You liberals are the lowest of the low.

spine clown: Ok. last time….

First of all, the Hawaii Department of Health’s birth record request form does not give the option to request a photocopy of your long-form birth certificate.

SO FREAKIN WHAT? go get the long form and PUT IT TO REST TO SAVE AN AMERICAN HERO. He’s the freakin’ president he can do it! Idiot. Your boy can’t bring himself to do it. WHY????

spine clown, 0bama could put it to rest but he won’t. A good man will lose his career. I hope all in the military take note of the coward who lets one of theirs go down. Somehow, clown, I have no doubt they have taken notice. Worship your boy. He is every bit the coward you are. 0bama is standing on principle, I’m sure. And we know they are not based in principles of honor, character or country. Pi$$ off clown.

and you are wrong about putting Larkin as responsible for his own actions. If someone is a willing participant in witnessing the destruction of him, that makes them both responsible, fool. His character wont allow him to act against his beliefs. Your boy has stated no beliefs that he can stand by to watch this happen. Your boy is responsible for those under his command, and your boy is choosing to watch and let one of his soldiers go down. That makes him a coward, at the very least. But it is no surprise who the left holds as its heroes.

But I do know why 0bama cannot bring himself to save Lt. Larkin. Larkin is an honorable man. Honor is something 0bama knows nothing about. Honor is the antitheses of 0bama’s character.

If nothing else 0bama is watching the destruction of a man who committed his life to the service of his country. He is standing by and watching this man wreck his career. That makes him a coward for not stopping it and makes him complicit in the act. Period. Live with your hero, boys. You truly do deserve him. If a man that stands by as one of his fellow countrymen was mistakenly harming himself is your kind of hero, I hope I can make your day by helping you realize your greatness. Too bad for you that you are being exposed more and more in this country. Your party is sick because of what clowns like you bring to it.

Such hubris, little man, gordonblower, you’re a warmist. Clown.

ndaniel, what are you smoking? What is a “warmist”? You must be a 15 year old kid.

Obama is a joke and so are you. Anyone that falls for the birther nonsense after all the info you have been given on this thread has to be really really stupid.

Put away the crayons and go to bed. YOU need to find out who you are talking to before you shoot off your mouth.

a warmist, little man, is someone who buys into the man-made global warming hoax.

and by the way: Anyone who sticks up for a man who will let a fellow American wreck his career when he could very well intervene is a cowardly little man. Warmist clown.

This is what a man would say to 0bama: 0bama, PBUH, show Dr. Lakin your long form BC! So that the little men like gordonblower won’t have to twist themselves into such a pretzel to defend you.

PS, gordonblower, I do not fall for the “birther” nonsense, as i may believe that 0bama was born here. That said, no one will answer why he will not show his long form bc to save this man, but instead hangs him to dry. What say you, genius? Warmist fool.

MSNBC gives more air time to the birther issue than any other network. I never hear the birther issue mentioned by Fox. I never hear it mentioned by the Wall Street Journal. Etc. But the Left keeps on bringing it up, to try to distract attention from the disastrous track record of the Obama administration. As if proving where Obama was born qualifies this incompetent ideologue to be President. Note to Rachel: if you want to defend the President, try explaining why he pushes Congress to vote on trillion dollar bills without reading them. I’m waiting eagerly to hear your explanation.

Fact is, Gordy, I bet you have the hots for Rachel, huh? That is a sick reason to defend 0bama. And really, because you cant figure out what a warmist is I am smoking something, and15??? Finally, did you play with crayons at 15??? Dude.

I figured what “birther” was the minute I heard the left inject it. I think warmist fits clowns like you perfectly.

felixw, tell me what you think of when you hear the name warmist. can you see gordies face and Algore? How ’bout that Lee clown? Warmist clowns.

http://iraqwarends.blogspot.com/

ndaniel, you must not be able to read. I posted the story on this site that said that man made global warming is a lie. How dumb are you? I suggest you go to google Citizens for America. Read about it. When you find my name pay attention.
Then you should go to the Reagan Library and check the exibit about what happened on Nov. 13th 1986. Then look for me in the photo in the East Room. Reagan is speaking and I am in the first row.
I have been attacking the global warming nuts for years and NOBODY has ever said they are Warmists. So who do you hang with, little kids?
I have already told you before to stop making a fool out of yourself but you insist on keeping it going.

More Liberty said:
2). He has no business being in that chair because his highest qualification is that he can read a teleprompter.

But to you some right-wing C rate movie actor who reads a telepromter more times than Obama qualifies as president or a whiny quitter or an idiot who believes God told him to be president. the right-wingers have more sense, yeah, right!

ndanielson said:
0bama is an insult to all in military uniform. He is an affront to the honor and character to all that serve. His followers on this thread show the type of tactics and character exhibited by this American hating fool. His wife had never found anything to be proud about America for until 0bama ran was nominated for POTUS. At least she has found something. 0bama the boy-clown never will, which is why he will be the reason for a pounding in NOvember.

But some racist or to some people “a coward” like Lakin is an American hero! leave it to one racist to defend another. Lakin is a disgrace and a racist and according to some people, a coward. Obama is NOT the insult and Lakin will go to jail where he belongs because the U.S. military have no room to racist who breaks the laws of the military and disobeys a direct order.
P.S. i don’t use the word “birther” to describe you idiots!

felixw said:
MSNBC gives more air time to the birther issue than any other network. I never hear the birther issue mentioned by Fox. I never hear it mentioned by the Wall Street Journal. Etc. But the Left keeps on bringing it up, to try to distract attention from the disastrous track record of the Obama administration. As if proving where Obama was born qualifies this incompetent ideologue to be President. Note to Rachel: if you want to defend the President, try explaining why he pushes Congress to vote on trillion dollar bills without reading them. I’m waiting eagerly to hear your explanation.

So does that mean this issue is unimportant? maybe they should talk about how the party of no ideas keep alinging themseleves with crazies who are like themselves or how the right keep creating false polls from CBO
or report on thing the president is ACTUALLY doing not fall for the lies of faux news! that’s much better than talking about this right-wing racist movement.

So, C.Moore, 0bama is gonna let Lakin swing to prove some point??? Idiot.

gordybolower here is the last sentence of your post on man made global warming:

“The scientific community agrees that climate change is real. Greenhouse gases have increased as a result of human activities and now far exceed pre-industrial values.”

maybe you should read what you cut and paste? Idiot.

I think warmist fits the hoax buyers perfectly. Too bad you don’t get it, but you sure took to calling people birthers for those on “your” side, Gordy. pretty much makes you the idiot, don’t it?

It aint about his BC. It’s about how the leader of the free world will let a soldier take a fall as he stands by and watches. You have the intelligence of C. Moore not to see that. Perhaps you really can’t read. C. Moore must have missed the warmist, Algore lover, James Lee, that just gave his life for Gaea after reading the fictional, “An Inconvenient Truth”. Is Mr. lee the type of crazies you mean C.Moore??? Idiot. He was one of yours.

C. Moore, wait till you see all the false polls on 11/2/2010. i hope it brings the James Lee out in you, cupcake! Your beloved 0bama has been exposed as the coward he is by Lt. Lakin. Maybe your boy will hold a press conference to tell the American people how much Lt. Lakin deserves his court martial for opposing dear leader? Idiot!

And what is truly astounding, C Moore, is that if Lt. Lakin would have been a coward and run off to Canada to protest the war, he would have been a hero in liberal eyes. You liberals have the sickest heroes.

C.Moore said:
So does that mean this issue is unimportant? maybe they should talk about how the party of no ideas keep alinging themseleves with crazies who are like themselves or how the right keep creating false polls from CBOor report on thing the president is ACTUALLY doing not fall for the lies of faux news! that’s much better than talking about this right-wing racist movement.

Damn you’re twisted…. Why should we be talking about ‘the right’ at all? We have NO POWER. And yes, we SHOULD be talking about what the Prez is ACTUALLY doing. Can you explain why NOBODY is doing it, even the WH? I’ll give you 3 guesses…

and btw….YES… this issue is UNIMPORTANT. “Birther’ nonsense is all you libs have left now that RACIST has lost it’s sting.

Buncha jokers. Tell me C. Moore, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR 2011? I’m dying to hear it! I’ve asked 4 times now and not a single response.

Please please please enlighten me….

SpineCrusher said:
Every single recount showed that Gore won the majority of votes and yes I understand Bush won the votes of the electoral colleges and by our Constitution that’s what determines the presidency.

I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but it’s getting harder…. especially since the recounts of the Florida votes were already mentioned. They were independent and they were conclusive and anyone who still tries to pull that “Bush Stole The Election’ BS around me gets a swift an d decisive smack-down.

So bear with me SC as I try to interpret what you wrote before I aggravate my carpal tunnel for no good reason…

Nobody has ever disputed that Gore won the popular vote in 2008 so I’m finding if hard to apply your comment about ‘every single recount’ to the broader election so…. I’m left with the conclusion that you really think “Gore won the majority of votes” IN FLORIDA.

Before I waste my time pointing out the obvious I’m hoping you will clarify this statement so that you won’t look like an idiot Please tell me SC…. that you are not one of those who believes Bush won Florida.

It would truly be disappointing… especially after reading your strenuous anti- “Birther” posts…. to know that you are willfully blind about something so easy to investigate and put to bed.

Bush won the majority of the votes in Florida = the voters of Florida decided the 2000 election. Period.

There is no debate about this. Let me know if you agree.

Gore won the popular vote in 2000

ndanielson said:
So, C.Moore, 0bama is gonna let Lakin swing to prove some point??? Idiot.

ndanielson said:
C. Moore, wait till you see all the false polls on 11/2/2010. i hope it brings the James Lee out in you, cupcake! Your beloved 0bama has been exposed as the coward he is by Lt. Lakin. Maybe your boy will hold a press conference to tell the American people how much Lt. Lakin deserves his court martial for opposing dear leader? Idiot!

ndanielson said:
And what is truly astounding, C Moore, is that if Lt. Lakin would have been a coward and run off to Canada to protest the war, he would have been a hero in liberal eyes. You liberals have the sickest heroes.

Like I said, leave it for one racist to defend another since you’re the only person defending this racist coward! Racism have NO place in our military as do history in your head. Which liberal speaks racist quotes as “get that bone out your nose”? Which group of liberals carried signs saying “White Slavery”? Which liberal groups beat up a black man who they though was Muslim? I’m not really sure. What I am sure is this, this asshole disobeyed orders because of listening to you racists and now he’s going to jail where he should rot! Just because you were a uniform doesn’t mean you do want you want nor does it mean everything you do is right. Same as the president. This country’s common sense will go to hell if they chose to award a slimeball racist coward like Lakin! In your dumb mind, this president is a coward for not listening to a racist? But not this piece of crap who’s afraid of reporting for duty? Lakin is a disgrace to the uniform and an insult to our military. To defend this creep is crazy as believeing every thing rush limbaugh says!

HEY C.MOORE. I’M TYPING IN ALL CAPS CUZ IT SEEMS YOU MISSED MY POST. I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION…

C.Moore said:
So does that mean this issue is unimportant? maybe they should talk about how the party of no ideas keep alinging themseleves with crazies who are like themselves or how the right keep creating false polls from CBO
or report on thing the president is ACTUALLY doing not fall for the lies of faux news! that’s much better than talking about this right-wing racist movement.

_____________

ARE YOU REALLY GOING TO IGNORE MINE??

FearMonger said:
Tell me C. Moore, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR 2011?

________________

YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS PREZ IS “ACTUALLY” DOING….. GO FOR IT!

I’M ALL EARS…. LIKE I SAID BEFORE….

FearMonger said:
Please please please enlighten me….

crickets

OK, I’ll say it again, this time maybe you can weed through my less-than-perfect skills with the English language and see the point of all the “birther madness.”

The ENTIREITY of the birther issue is a smoke screen, cleverly played by the -0bama regime for TWO reasons:

1. It causes his many acolytes to defend him across the board from the evil vast right-wing conspiracy and makes those sycophants pay less attention than they might otherwise pay to the things he is doing that, if they thought about it, really wouldn’t like.

2. It shifts some of the focus of the birthers from the truly troublesome things -0bama is doing as they argue and whine about not ever having seen his birth certificate, college transcripts, selective service registration, and the like.

WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD BE PAYING ATTENTION TO IS WHAT HIS POLICIES ARE DOING TO OUR COUNTRY! Get past the smoke screen people and wake up before it’s too late for us all.

in my humble opinion said:
Chucen, you have it correct. those who question the Presidents place of birth are indeed racists. They want their country back to the days when only white men (not even women) ran it.

Not even close bozo.

TexGEOas said:
It’s very simple… Who was the Hawaii doctor who delivered Barack Obama and in what facility did he/she deliver him? That is the still UNANSWERED QUESTION. Certificates of Birth are not the same as Live Birth Certificates. before she disappeared from the scene, I personally heard Obama’s aunt say she was present at his birth IN KENYA! If asking a politician for proof of his/her right to serve is being a “birther”, I proudly accept the label. Liberal shout at the facts. Conservatives want to KNOW the facts. Let the truth speak. Simple.

Wasn’t there a promise somewhere along the ol’ campaign trail about “the most transparent government in history?”

Oh, well, so much for promises.